What is up with this shit magazine? Every title in it, though some having really interesting concepts at the start in only 10 chapters turn to complete shit with nothing meaningful happening in them any more with the artist clearly searching hard to find material to fill a chapter so it just ends up being about absolutely trivial conversations during lunch about nothing for an entire chapter that would be five pages at best in any other magazine. An entire chapter for some barbecue excursion where the two leads barely even talk to one another and the protagonist just talks about mostly trivial shit with some parent of one of the love interests can't fill an entire chapter. Yes, it provides some emotional backdrop about that parent's perspectives but in most stories that's 5 pages, not an entire chapter. Or that dumb ass band story where they spend an entiiiire chapter on basically this happening:>We sit in a café or whatever having lunch>Now we go to our new illustrator's grandma's basement shop which we're told we can use to rehearse>the endThat's all that happens in an entire chapter with the rest just filled with lines that don't matter. This is officially still a romance magazine but seriously only 1/10 of the chapters each issue have any actual romantic moments in it. Most of it is just spent with people talking about fuck all. At least the second half of If This is Love, then Break was consequential this issue but you can bet that massive bomb with the teacher which just came out of nowhere is just going to be forgotten and was just put in there to fill something and next chapter is going to make that statement of love, that in and of itself was dumb because we didn't first get to see Kurumi's thoughts about it first into a misunderstanding or something and reset everything again.
Which magazines beyond Yurihime do you read?
>>282382102Ehh:>Gangan JOKER>Comic gene>Sho-Comi>Cheese>&Flower>Mobile Flower>Premium Cheese>Sho-ComiX>Ananga Ranga>無敵恋愛無S*girl [okay, this one pulls this crap for some of its stories but at least it has sex scenes every chapter]>Harem>Princess>Ane-Friend>Champion REDProbably forgot some shit here and there but those magazines don't do that, at least not for everything. Sho-Comi clearly has some things that have been going on far too long for their own good but at least they just focus on development of their side characters and they still actually have actual romantic scenes most chapters for something that is a romance magazine. As in, these stories are obviously being milked, but at the very least they don't spend an entire chapter just on sitting in a café talking about nothing. Snake & Butterfly was milked as hell with new ridiculous ideas flowing in but the artist clearly wasn't searching for ideas to fill a chapter but overloading with so many dumb new ideas and outright ridiculous plots that many of them probably had to be cut and compressed with how much was happening each chapter.
>>282382350Do you read Champion RED for ryona? Did you stop buying RiSky?
>>282381029>this is officially still a romance magazine but seriously only 1/10 of the chapters each issue have any actual romantic moments in itRomance is not just constant sex scenes. People also enjoy slice of life/comedy/action. They have a literal autobiographical lesbian work that's about their daily life.It also seems like a weird criticism to make when there are series that focus on lewd things almost every chapter like Asumi, Android, or FLOWERCHILD's most recent work.
Also, it's not a romance magazine. It's a yuri magazine related to the fandom and its culture which is why there are panels about creator talks/interviews, watching old yuri movies, various subcultures, and even a recent recommendation panel.
>>282382528>Buying Comic RiSKyIt's a 600 yen for 150 page magazine. It's cheaper to just buy the volumes. Which is a big shame because there's some really good stuff in it.I'd be all over it if it were just priced 200 yen for 150 pages or even 300 like something sane.>>282382540Yes, Asumi having terrible sex scenes, and Android and Face only publishing semi monthly and in both though they do have pretty good sex scenes the plot is nonexistent at this point.There are magazines where every story has sex scenes and on top of that a good plot that is clearly not the artist struggling to find something for the characters to do.And no, that story of those two people founding a band together isn't “romance”. It's not even class S. It's two people forming a band together with no romance which would be fine if it were something like Bokurano Polyrhythm where they're forming a band but at least there there's an actual showbusiness plot and drama and not the characters spending an entire chapter talking about I don't even remember what irrelevant crap in a café. There are actual stakes, band members almost leaving over conflicting ideologies, their first big gig being cancelled, backstories of the bandmembers and all that that at least feel significant.Most of the stories in this magazine having nothing going on in them and they didn't start that way either which suggests the artist just ran out of ideas but isn't willing or allowed to just end it. My Girlfriend's Not Here Today of course started of with every chapter packed with significant events and now we're at the stage that an entire chapter is filled with a nigh meaningless barbecue.
>>282382794>semi monthlyBimonthly. Semi monthly means two times per month.Have you tried reading Comic Valkyrie? The newest issues are free.Why do you even buy all those magazines instead of getting a subscription like Comic Days?
>>282382794>there are magazines where every story has sex scenesYH is clearly going for a variety in stories rather than focusing on just lewd ones. I don't think every story is supposed to appeal to every person.>that story of those two people founding a band together isn't “romance”Do you not think that the characters are going to get closer as the story progresses? They already have Sasakoi which opens with the protagonists falling in love and going on a date soon enough.>there are actual stakes, band members almost leaving over conflicting ideologies, their first big gig being cancelled, backstories of the bandmembers and all that that at least feel significant.Not very story has to be a high-stakes drama. >Most of the stories in this magazine having nothing going on in themThe stories are about girls interacting or flirting with each other, sometimes in a laid-back way, sometimes dramtically, and sometimes lewdly. Just this issue you had a new series with a horror them that opens with a kiss and a teacher having an extended make-out secession with her former pupil.
>>282383146>YH is clearly going for a variety in stories rather than focusing on just lewd ones. I don't think every story is supposed to appeal to every person.And there are no lewd romantic moments in most chapters either, the variety is that like 80% of chapters are little more than just the characters sitting in a café or something like that talking about something something that barely affects the plot.>Do you not think that the characters are going to get closer as the story progresses? They already have Sasakoi which opens with the protagonists falling in love and going on a date soon enough.Who knows if they will eventually but this is chapter 12. You don't call something a mystery title either when the first 12 chapters are inconsequential and then a mystery starts or what's probably going to happen here is that they will just get together in the end and that's it.This is a band story, not a romance story, which would be fine if it actually were like Bokurano Polyrythm and have an actual band story but it doesn't even have that, what exactly happened around the band for those 12 chapters? Nothing consequential happened.>Not very story has to be a high-stakes drama.Something needs to happen to call something a story. What happened exactly in the latest chapter? They now have a place to practice, that's the only change to the status quō at the end and took an entire chapter just for that.It's so clear, especially because the start typically did have more going on that the artist is now just stretching to find something to fill the chapters with because the magazine doesn't believe in just allowing stories to end after 12 chapters that should.
>>282383130Because every website I checked doesn't include many of those magazines in it's all-you-can-read deals. There's really almost nothing in it.Note that I also read a lot of stories from online magazines like that, I just didn';t include them because I don't read “the magazine” as much as “some stories” but I read a lot from Jump+, Champion Cross and Gardo as well.
>>282383259>there are no lewd romantic moments in most chapters eitherOther than the 3 we talked about, Bokura no Ai wa Kimochi Warui has lewd scenes almost every other chapter, 4/20 effective serializations is 20% which seems reasonable for a magazine that's trying to appeal to a diverse array of customers (from male to female fans)>something needs to happen to call something a storyWe have genres like CGDCT and Slice of Life which almost exclusively focus on the day-to-day activities of the cast.>the magazine doesn't believe in just allowing stories to end after 12 chapters that shouldPlently of series end after 1-3 volumes in the magazine. Pic-related is an example was announced to be one volume (and it had a kiss basically every chapter). That photopgrahy one is also a short series. Whether you feel that they're being dragged out or expanding on the characters is ultimately a subjective determination though. It's ultimately up to the artists if they want to keep going or wrap it up.
>>282383267Harem is included in Bookwalker.Champion RED and Princess are in Bookwalker, Bookpass, Kindle Unlimited and Book Hodai together with the other female oriented Akita Shoten magazines: Mystery Bonita, For Misses, Elegance Eve, Renai Cherry Pink and Renai LoveMAX.Comic RiSky and Muteki Renai S*Girl are included in Bookwalker, Kindle Unlimited and Book Hodai together with other Bunkasha crap.There's plenty of other women magazines like Jour, Feel Young, Cocohana, Hana to Yume, B's Log COMIC, Vanilove, Wings, Comic Ride Ivy, Chocolove, Coihalu etc included in them as well.Comic Days has Kodansha's lineup with Ane Friend, Nakayoshi, Artemis, Bessatsu Friend, comic tint, Desert and Kiss. You don't have to restrict yourself to Shogakukan brands.
>>282383516Yeah but then I have to get subscriptions on multiple places since some only have some and I don't care about most of those magazine I guess. Or at least I never tried them but given that I don't read a single title in them I'm probably not going to and I know some titles that do run in them and I don't care.Looking at it though, Bookwalker is 1100 yen for all-you-can-read per month, given that thouse fore magazines that are in it alone are going to be more than that it's probably worth it to switch to that just for those since you get the rest for free. Is there any public list of what's included on Bookwalker? I can't find it.>>282383505>Other than the 3 we talked about, Bokura no Ai wa Kimochi Warui has lewd scenes almost every other chapter, 4/20 effective serializations is 20% which seems reasonable for a magazine that's trying to appeal to a diverse array of customers (from male to female fans)Anon, 20% of chapters each issue having romantic scenes for something calling itself a romance magazine is very weird and low.Which wouldn't be a problem for entertainment if the rest of the plots were good but it's literally talking about the weather in a café.>We have genres like CGDCT and Slice of Life which almost exclusively focus on the day-to-day activities of the cast.I feel even those are usually comedic and/or have fanservice but these stories didn't start out that way is the issue. The first few chapters are packed with plot, drama, and concept and then you get this.It feels like everything in this magazine sooner or later just devolves into very poor slice of life that completely abandons or stretches out the original concept.
>>282383849That 20% was specifically about series that have lewd scenes every chapter. The series still have lewd scenes outside of that, even if they aren't as frequent. Just look at that isekai one about the Princess that requires them to kiss to activate their powers. It also gets more complicated when you factor flirting and other scenes below kissing. If you take that autobiographical one I mentioned, because they are married, every scene where they are enjoying each other's company is romantic. You can only see them doing lewd things on their fanbox.
>>282383849>Looking at it though, Bookwalker is 1100 yen for all-you-can-read per monthIt's 836 just for manga.Comic Days is 960, Kindle Unlimited 980, Book Hodai 550 and Bookpass 618. >Is there any public list of what's included on Bookwalker? I can't find it.https://bookwalker.jp/search/?order=sbsc_start_desc&qtag=45&qsst=11&qsub=4Without a Japanese they won't display soft-ero magazines but you can set them up as favorites and normally read them.Young Animal ZEROChara SelectionHaremBaLmycomic RiSkyYoung King LambdaminiBerryNekotomoAnekoi SengenMens SengenMens Sengen DXMobile BL SengenMobile Renai SengenYoung SengenBerry’s Fantasycomic Berry’sComic GrastnoicomiComic ZenonYoung KingYoung King BULLWeekly Manga TimesComic Ran TwinsCharaAction PizazzsDoku Ringo comicJourDengeki MoeohYoung Dragon AgeB’s LOG COMICCIELComic AliveComic BeamComic CuneComic FlapperComp AceDengeki DaiohDengeki DaiohgDengeki MaohDragon AgeShonen AceYoung AceWingsNekopanchiManga ActionYoung ComicYoung King OursYoung King Ours GHStory na Onnatachi BlackMitsukoi TiaraComic GrowlBessatsu Pachislot Panic 7Bessatsu Pachislot Panic 7 XManga PachinkerManga Pachinker MAXPanic 7 GoldminiSUGARRenai Sengen PINKYChampion REDElegance Evefor Mrs.Mystery BonitaPrincessHifuComiRenai Hakusho PastelFeel YoungComic RexComic RideComic Ride AdvanceComic Ride IvyRenai Cherry PinkRenai LoveMAXKachiCOMIThe following have 4 months or more delay over the release date:Manga Grimm DouwaMuteki Renai S*girlComic ValkyrieAmarECoihaluBessatsu Shonen Magazinecomic TantKindan LoversStory na OnnatachiThere's also a changing selection of volumes but it's usually not very interesting.https://bookwalker.jp/search/?order=sbsc_start_desc&qsst=11&np=0&qsub=4&qnot_mgzn=1
>>282381029They let him slip away and now he's making yuri masterpiece elsewhere
>>282384047I don't read most of those and most of the things I read aren't on that list but it's probably still cheaper and I'll probably end up reading some of it, also it's 14 days free trial so it makes sense to give it a try.The interface of that website is so hard to navigate though.>>282383953Yeah but even so if you take like this issue, how many of the chapters in it have romantic moments?They also end up together in Attack on Titan but no one calls that a romance title and it doesn't need to be because it has a really good plot. That band story is just that, a band story, that they may end up together at the end doesn't change what it is, the same could happen with any members in Bokurano Polyrhythm but the difference is that they spend chapters on actual band related things rather than sitting on cafés talking about the weather.If someone were to advertise Gabriel Dropout as romance, at least at the start, that would also be weird, but at least there every interaction with Satania in it is hilarious.
>>282384753It becomes worthwhile as soon as you have two, three magazines you don't have to buy. And there's a lot more incentive to test other magazines because you can read them even if only a single series or two interests you.You can select the magazines or specific series as favorites. That way you get a feed with the newest releases. You can also set the mobile appli to automatically download them.https://user.bookwalker.jp/favorites_management_front/magazine/bulkIf you want sex in every chapter, check out Young Comic, Renai Hakusho Pastel, Mitsukoi Tiara, Kindan Lovers, Renai LoveMAX, Renai Cherry Pink. Can't recommend Action Pizazzs due to how in your face the censorship is.If you want romance with occasional sex, check out Coihalu.Check Doku Ringo comic and Manga Grimm Douwa for misery.Look at the Pachislot magazines if you want to see the biggest crap.
>>282386001>It becomes worthwhile as soon as you have two, three magazines you don't have to buy. And there's a lot more incentive to test other magazines because you can read them even if only a single series or two interests you.Yeah this is also true, you can just start reading shit you normally wouldn't so I'm probably going to do it.Note that magazines don't really cost the price they actually cost through because of discounts and point buy discount. Like if I'm going to do this, which I probably will, I will probably downgrade my monthly automatic point purchase plan on the website I use now and right now I automatically purchase 5000 points each month which gives me 1500 free points on top of it which drops to 700 when you only purchase 3000 so all those things do have to be considered and I have to do some maths but it definitely seems worth it now so I'll most likely do it.>If you want sex in every chapterYou make me sound so cheap. It's more that in Y.H. so many chapters have no sex scenes or romance but still have no actual plot. Many of the magazines I read don't do sex scenes at all and/or don't even have love stories but at least they have stories with a plot in it.But I think a real advantage of all-you-can-read is that you can just try these magazines to see whether you'll like them with nothing to lose. It's hard to get into a magazine because most of the stuff in it is of course just half-way in serialization so I'll mostly only get into a magazine when I happen to already follow 2-3 titles in it and just gamble on what the rest is worth and then I also time it.
>>282381029Yuri is usually somewhere in-between of CGDCT and romance, so it's not surprising that nothing really happens. Many years ago, when Yuri Hime started, it was filled with shoujo/josei and was much more women oriented. But then SoLs like YuruYuri and Wataten appeared and turned out to be much more successful, adjusting demographics towards men. Then it became mostly a SoL magazine. They even tried to address this by adding more of fantasy/action stories, but most of them flopped. Recently they came up with a more successful formula of a spicy yuri (toxic, abusive, overly dramatic), but it's still mostly SoLs.
>>282386365When I first began following Wings I only read the oneshots. Then Shirokuroma began serialization and I jumped on board but it only had a short run and I was back to oneshots. But since then I've caught up with various series and it's one of the magazines I value the most. Without the subscription I'd never gotten into it.
>>282387035Yeah but many of them start high drama and interesting. That's the part that mystifies me.I just ignore all the things that start slice of life but I actually started reading this because I was already reading Android and Today She's Not Here when both were still good and then I saw the first chapter of If This is Love then Break It and I felt I should try the magazine at the second chapter of that which was also the issue wherein A Face You Shouldn't Show started I think.Apart from that that new story about that protagonist who's mistreated at home, that historical prostitution thing and of course Shitrus as a prime example all start with a good concept, plot-laden initial chapters and then they just enter this phase where the artist clearly doesn't know what to do with it any more but also doesn't want to end it.It's not like Today She's Not Here suddenly turned into a happy fluffy title, it's just that the drama is so inconsequential and boring now for the most part. I actually initially praised that title for being “brave” and not showing kisses and romance in the first chapter already and takings its time to build the relationship but I now realize that everything in this title does this, except nothing is built and you just get like one kiss at the end when they get together, out of nowhere.That teacher story actually ended this issue but I honestly can't even remember the plot or how they got together throughout the story because nothing was consequential enough to be worthy of being remembered. If you only read the first and final chapter the story makes about as much sense as having read everything in between. That was also the case with Shitrus, I stopped at 15 or something, then just picked it up in the magazine and everything still made complete sense because none of the things that happened in between had any consequences apparently.
>>282387314Yeah that's also a nice thing to get into magazines, when they have a lot of one shots.But I keep hearing some good things about Wings and there's no reason for me now not to try it, so yeah. But at the moment I literaly have a baglog of like 120 Comic Risky issues to work through so... I can actually read it from the first issue on. I'm even just re-reading けだものたちの時間.Where has this magazine been all my life.>Being beaten to a pulp by your arsehole youtuber parent every day while creeps get off to it over the internetGod I wish that were me.
>>282388546You aren't the average reader considering you're crazy enough to try dozens of magazines with genres all over the place.
>>282388720innit is fairly consistent with series where women are degraded. I think I'm worse.
>>282388630I wonder if Musume Haishin Shimasu is ending. Usually the arcs where 6 chapters or less but Risa's is now at 11. Most classic scenarios has been done now.
How do I learn Japanese?
>>282388720I don't do that at all. I do that now because they're free anyway with this deal.Before I only got into a magazine if I already happened to follow say two titles in it and then coincided my picking up with a new title starting it that seemed interesting.>>282389082Where do all you people get this weird shit about me? I always read these weird illuminations of my taste and opinions on 4chan of which half of it is like the opposite of what I like and think and the other half is just really random stuff.>>282389330Quit while you can.98% chance you quit after you start anyway. The only people that persist are insane.
>>282381029I was disappointed as well. So many shills and it's worse than a below average romcom. normie magazine.
>>282389614..does that mean I'm insane?
>>282389614Because you can't stop talking about rapechads and post stuff like >>282388630.
>>282389330Just start. There's a ton of different guides that suit different persons. Instead of worrying which one fits you the most, pick one and collect first hand experience. You can always switch later on.https://djtguide.github.io/
>>282389625>ShillsWhen I still did translations, one thing I noticed was that whenever I did a “yuri” and made the page on Mangadex which back then I had to do like two days before uploading the first chapter it got a bunch of 10s in the rating before the first chapter was even uploaded. There are actually people so obsessed with it that they frantically search for the “girls' love” tag in on the website and give everything a 10 before even reading it. This never happened with anything else I did.>>282389751Yes, this is not an arena where the sane succeed. The entire Japanese language learning community is clearly filled with people who are completely autistic and/or o.c.d. and on top of that have terrible taste in fiction which one sort of needs to advance because all the good stuff is not accessible to a beginner.The other half of the insanity is caused by that the few people that actually start out reading something good with actual adult language seemingly think it's a totally fine way to read fiction to look up three words every sentence and enjoy this which also can't be indicative of good mental health.
>>282390086And if you had said that I like rape you would be correct but how do we end up from rape at degradation and women?I have nothing with either degradation or women. That “kept on a leash and say master” or whatever shit bores me like you would not believe.Rape however is of course exquisite.
>>282390196Have you read Comic LOE noir?
>>282390196>That “kept on a leash and say master” or whatever shit bores me like you would not believe.>Rape however is of course exquisite.Rape is boring as fuck "muh I just force myself on others with no regards to their agency", petplay is way hotter because someone is imposing their will while making another person want it.
>>282386365Try 江戸の不倫は死の香り in コミック乱ツインズhttps://comicborder.com/episode/10044607041220122457
>>282390275Never heard of it.Searching for it I got this though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_LOExtremely cultured.>>282390300Yes well tastes differ. I just don't understand where everyone gets those weird ideas about my taste from, also the “consistent” part.Like, you do know that Attack on Titan and Blame! are probably my two favorite graphic novels right?The way you write also makes it seem like you don't understand that in all those stories written from the perspective of the person being raped how hot it is for the rapechad isn't exactly the concern of the reader. You didn't like... actually think that say all those people reading Maid-Sama! are doing it with concern about how Usui is feeling did you?>>282390723Yes well that description does look interesting. I do always enjoy a good infidelity story.
>>282387035>Many years ago, when Yuri Hime started, it was filled with shoujo/josei and was much more women oriented. But then SoLs like YuruYuri and Wataten appeared and turned out to be much more successful, adjusting demographics towards menThe idea that women are only into high-drama shoujo/josei yuri is misleading. The most popular yuri manga right now, selling more than every series in YH combined, is the exact thing innit in this thread is complaining about (yet it's exactly popular among women).
>>282391216LOE is a digital only sister magazine to LO. The issues follow different themes and in the case of noir it's girls meeting a terrible fate without happy end.
God, the problem with this all you can read stuff is that there's just too much now.So much to read, so little time. I'm going to overdose. I just get shiny-eye-syndrome with all this shit waiting for me now.>>282391723This garbage keeps popping up in my Tumblr feed.Anyway this>Muh foids only like drama and rapeIs such a weird 4chan meme from people who never bore witness to the utter shite that's in say Ribbon, Ciao or Dessert. It's better phrased as>Disgusting virgins are all wholesomefags>>282391783Wunderbar. I both absolutely love the sexualization of preteens and bad endings.
>>282391827I don't understand how people that know Japanese waste their time translating when there's so much manga to read.
>>282391827>disgusting virgins are all wholesomefagsThe women reading these kinds of yuri manga aren't virgins.
>>282392252>I don't understand how people that know Japanese waste their time translating when there's so much manga to read.You have a "I want to know everything!" mindset while other people don't.Some people want to share their favorites with friends and whole side of the globe.
>>282392273Yes they are, anyone who likes wholesome stories with that kind of art about nothing is a virgin.>>282392252I cut out a huge amount of time not redrawing and at the time I just wanted to share it I guess because I wanted to read what people had to say about it and interact with them in the comments which I did and it actually left me with some e-friends over it but the number of stupid comments, no doubt almost all from virgins also made it more annoying and depressing and you were sort of stuck with that on Bato.to the admins were massive moralfags but the userbase mostly non-virgins and on Mangadex the admins didn't have dumb rules about age gaps but the entire website was full of virgins.>>282392526Yeah. Also, I didn't do all-you-can-read back then anyway so it wasn't like translating cut into my Japanese reading time, it cut into my shitposting on 4chan time more than anything.
>>282392592>anyone who likes wholesome stories with that kind of art about nothing is a virginThat's a pretty standard shoujo artstyle though. It's not moe/bishoujo at all, which is probably one of the reasons why they are both so popular with girls.
>>282392771I hate that artstyle, the characters look plain so it's for virgins to self-insert into and feel relatable. Most of the art in anything Flower Comics is better, protagonist is also better looking and an absolute whore so it's clearly not for virgins. Virgins always want a happy ending and one-true-pairing. Also, all the characters are drawn like they're giving off at least 1200 lumen for whatever reason.
>>282393232>virgins to self-insert into and feel relatable.Most men and women aren't reading yuri for self-insertion purposes.
>>282391216Defect in Young King Bull could also be up your alley.
