Perfect male design
>beardCringe and gay
>>282383823that's just lucas lee
>>282383823>t.
>>282383823beard but with no mustache looks lame
>>282384476damn what a lucky fella he is
>>282384476guys how do i get a GF like that?
>>282383823Either a cuck lord or a yaoi protagonist
>>282383823This is unironically and factually a pretty gay design.
>>282383823Women call THIS a "dad bod".
>>282383839It's always hilarious when the grizzled male characters in manga and anime always have that ridiculously sparse goatee, never anytthing thicker, and absolutely never anything above the lip.
>>282383839>>282384674>>282384773Why do the Japanese think being muscular and having facial hair is homosexual?
>>282385982My gay friend looks like that
>>282383823If you're gay, that is. He's too wide.
>>282383823yes
>>282383823This guy >fucks lolis>fucks hags>fucks twinks>has three kids>has off model Bara porn>makes lanklets seethe
>>282383823Why is he so short?
>>282385982Japanese gay dudes are attracted to manly things and think muscles and facial hair is sexy?
I self insert as a buff grizzled man who has a harem of older women.
>>282383823Fixed a little.
>>282387886Give him a long side burn and he would be your average 70s manga protagonist.
>>282387945
>untrimmed faggot who skips leg day.Gay
>>282387886>>282388078make him look like he got taller from leg heightening surgery.the absolute state of manlets
>>282383823Harumi Takeda>>282388078Thats a Go Nagai character.
>>282385982the average jap male can't look virile no matter how hard he tries
>>282387886Thank you, Katoki-sama
>>282384611A fat ugly old unvirgin smelly poor semi-alcoholic chain-smoking 31 year old chinese? Sir, I have good news for you on your chances of prospection.>>282387886Horse loving women will like this one.
>>282383839>biological trait of a healthy human male is considered gay?Anon care to explain which parallel universe you live in?
>>282388078He's slowly turning Go Nagai-ish
>>282385982They’re on the other side of the planet, so I’m not too surprised to find their standards so inverse to ours
>>282383823He reminds me of that Most Racist Man Alive meme
>>282383823>small handsNope
>>282385982Their idea of a chad is a twink pretty boy
>>282392071Aren't bears also considered attractive in the west?
>>282385982Because unlike americans, japs have the correct idea about what appeals to women and what appeals to fags>women prefer lean and feminine looking guys>gay men prefer burly big gymfagsDon't know why westerners got it reversed. Guess they're just retarded.
>>282388078Now he just needs a cool jacket and scarf and he's perfect.
I find it interesting that:>enjoy very girly things as a man>everybody calls you gay>enjoy very manly things as a man>everybody calls you gaybut also:>enjoy very girly things as a woman>everybody calls you strong and independent>enjoy very manly things as a woman>everybody calls you strong and independent
>>282392201Only for the gays.
>>282392297Men police what other men do because they're constantly competing wit each other.
>>282392297That's because you hang out with men>enjoy feminine things as a womanPickme pedopanderer >enjoy manly things as a womanPickme/Autistic butch who will probably end up on hrt
>>282392297>t. fag
>>282392242Lol what? Burly gym rats are still considered gay here. Do you realize how big the cultural difference is between Asians and others? If you're telling other to groom themselves like K-pop guys then I have bad news for you you'll still be considered gay here because you don't live in a society where metrosexual beauty standards are common. Most women here don't hold on to that teenage mentality you like to believe applies.
>>282388078Don't forget his rival
>>282383823>>282384431Wait, you're right
>>282392201Depends on the woman. If it’s well trimmed then yes many will find it attractive.
Well I'll take it over Kirito #5000 at least.
>>282392201Despite what people say, women vary in their tastes. I was trying to find a new scifi/fantasy novel to read yesterday and perusing recent releases on the kindle store and it was of course 99% female authored romantasy trash but practically every cover was some hard bodied fabio-looking guy. Clearly a lot of women like handsome buff men. But of course if you ask a fujo who only consumes Asian stuff what they like and you'll get some effeminate pretty boy.
>>282392963This got me curious so I tried to google a chart to see some of the variety. I hate pinterest and instagram.They still seem slightly leaner than op though desu.
>>282393385Imagine getting ntr'd by fucking Harry Potter lmao
>>282393542>Harry PotterThat doesn't seem right.
>>282393542That's about the Chad-est looking Harry I've ever seen
i really should get into shape...
>>282392553You're deluded as fuck
>>282393843Good luck getting hit on by bisexual men
>>282383823Gay thread
>>282393385>>282393542They all look the same.
>>282394983Tall, dark and handsome.
>>282392692Looks better in every way
>>282385958It's much easier to draw desu
>>282392242then why adult romance novels made for women always have jacked guys on the cover?
>>282392963And that asian beauty standard for men only exist because they have the lowest T ever, it's not that they women there have preference for androgynous guys, it's just that fruity men just happen to be the standard there. Even the smol pp stereotype is something that they acknowledge.
>>282383823That's literally just this lolifuckerchad
>>282388078>>282392692>Hayato and Ryoma
>>282396243now do an endomorph edit and you have Musashi
>>282396071Tbf, book covers aren't up to the author or the audience, since about a decade ago it has also stopped having this type of cover and went full plain graphic design and bad art.Isn't it a publishing thing?
>>282396264they did that for decades and still do regularly so clearly the target demographic never had a problem with it
>>282396138Yeah, even someone considered a pretty boy by western standards would still be significantly more masculine than them.
>>282396264Found an article about the changes, didn't know there was an actual guy named Fabio desu.https://time.com/7005391/romance-novel-cover-history/
>>282396357that article is about romance novels, but if you filter to only those that are smut crap you always will have an oiled guy with exposed abs on the cover
>>282396408The article points out that the modern cartoon covers are still sexually graphic smut though>But with generalized jacket images comes the risk of an unwelcome surprise for those who don’t want to read extended scenes featuring throbbing body parts. “A lot of people think that the cartoon cover doesn't depict how spicy the content is inside of the actual books,”
>>282396336yeah any western faggy boy band that had their peak of popularity 2 decades ago like Backstreet Boys or Nsync looks like Charles Bronson next to them
>>282387886As drawn by Oda
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>>282396598True virility
>>282396264>>282396357You still see plenty of jacked guys on romance novels. And a lot of romance novels are self published or minimally published and the author still has control over the cover. But the biggest ones I agree have become more abstract. Go to amazon and look them up though and there's no shortage of "Taken by the Billionaire Alien Werewolf part 39" featuring some hard bodied six pack on the cover and a thousand 4+ star reviews. Some books they buy because their book tok follows recommended it. Some though they buy because they are browsing amazon with one hand in their pants. That's where the hard bodies come in.
>>282396644I was having fun googling this stuff but that is a... weird amount of monsterfucking.
>>282396598I am never going to understand people's fascination with this
>>282396822He's just like me.
>>282396822There's ton of fat bastard hentai out there. He's the quintessential representative of it.
>>282396822Wine sipping Pitbull mommies/Single chinese aunties will never understand.
>>282396822>t. faggot
>>282392810And wouldn't you know it, he was a heartthrob among the beef loving gays. I still kind of resent that they went with his movie personality for takes off. I like it, it's funny, but him being one of the nicest evil exes despite being a hot shot celebrity AND an american in a canadian story was cool
>>282396822I can think of only two reasons. One is the self insert fantasy for unattractive men and the other is the sadistic impulse to degrade and humiliate women like a monster with beautiful girls.
>>282397093you forgot literal cucks that only get off if the guy fucking their women is someone inferior for extra humiliation points(which is why interracial cuckoldry is so popular)
>>282392184pretty much
>>282393385>>282393542i know some girl whos super obsessed with harry potter fan fiction, there's one where harry dies and draco rapes hermoineshe was telling me all about it
goatees look so bad, both in manga and irlI've seen bad moustaches, sure, but I've also seen great onesA good goatee though? Never
>>282396921ugly bastard wins again
>>282398041the guy that did Shaggy in the live action Scooby Doo movie looked okay
>>282396071Young women (more likely to read comics or watch cartoons) prefer bishies.Older women (more likely to read romance novels) prefer dashing strong men.
>>282396071>ADULT romance novelsYes, lets see what YOUNG women vote on, oh, look at that!
>>282398779the "adult" in "adult romance novels" just means that there's smut on it, not necessarily that it's targeted at a more mature readership
>>282383823For bara? Yeah, only homos and weird women would like him.
>>282396243Shit I was thinking the same.
Actual perfect design
>>282398779Who wouldn't vote for Jack Skellington tbf.
>>282388078>>282392030Is this Go Nagai-ish enough?
>>282399655now add the grin
>>282386059
>>282383823This is shit though
>>282384476waifu
>>282399705Anon... I... I think you just fixed Neon Genesis Evangelion.
>>282398913/thread
>>282393542When did Harry Potter ever looked like that?
>>282388078If you quit his beard and make a little thinner you'll probably get any Leiji no short leg male character
>>282396598>>282396822It's an ABSOLUTE UNIT
>>282386059Dworf bros, rise up.
>>282388078that's just Akira Fudo>>282392692that's just Tokio Kurohara
>>282398779>Young jap women + lesbosfify
>>282407146Those are the only women that matter
>>282397939then there are the sequels where Hermione revenge rapes Draco after turning herself into Hagrid with Polyjuice and makes the corpse of Harry into an inferius sexbot
>>282385982>>282392184>>282397872Women in Japan spend their entire life savings to hang out with men who look like this. Also, even in the West, people who prefer muscular and bearded men are mostly homosexual men and older women. 95% percent of women at their peak age fertility (the only ones that matter) prefer effeminate men.
>>282383823What exactly is it about this design that makes it so gay? I've seen muscular men designs that didn't elicit this sick feeling.
>>282407354Looks short and too broad
>>282387886CLAMP? Is that you?
>>282407285>and older womenprobably because they're less deluded and know who is more reliable when shit goes down.
>>282407439Yeah, they are tired of riding the hot guys’ cock carousel and know that a buff, bald man with beard is a safe beta choice who will provide for them, even if she is a single mother or has dried-up ovaries.
>>282407501>a buff, bald man with beard is a safe beta choice who will provide for themremove 'buff' and this will be accurate
>>282407285You do sound like an incel, but I guess beauty trends in modern times have been constantly shifting influenced by the media people consume so you might have a point.I'm also seeing Asian beauty standards influencing a lot of young Western women through pop culture and other media.However, just a reminder the way you're trying to frame it here won't work the same way in Asia, where homosexual acceptance isn't as open as it is in the west. So I don't expect the current trend to go over well with the newer generation here.
>>282407285as I said before, the average jap has the lowest T ever so they can't look manly even when they try really hard. Only a small minority of them looks like a badass samurai from a Kurosawa movie.
>>282407898>badass samurai from a Kurosawa movie.Not a single woman finds that attractive. What’s the point? Even Western women think this is the peak of male attractiveness and write a lot of fanfics about this guy.
McDonald's will turn japs into aryan gigachads at any moment right now
>>282398842Readership is still hags, young girls read fanfic instead
>>282408019Fucking Charles Bronson was a sex symbol in Japan at some point. Saying that women aren't attracted by primary masculine traits is just as retarded as saying that men aren't attracted to huge tits. You are probably a morbidly obese fujoshi that don't even want to engage in sex with men and is just a vouyer that wants to see them fucking each other.
>>282407285>95% percent of women at their peak age fertility (the only ones that matter) prefer effeminate men.This is entirely due to them constantly being on birth control.
>>282408080Look, I know that hurts your ojiisan bodytype ego. I’m not saying there are no women attracted to buff, bearded men, it’s just that they are the minority, that’s all.
>>282408173and I'm just saying that overwhelming preference for fruity men is only a thing in asian countries where they are the majority due to spending millennia living on rice and fish and having no access to high protein food.
>>282408203It’s not exclusive to Asian countries though. zoomer westoid women are obsessed with kpop idols and dorama shit.
>>282408019I think you are over generalising it too much. And does your example looks effeminate to you?
>>282408236yeah, women that want to see men fucking other men. Even their fanfiction about their kpop idols is about the band members fucking each other instead of fucking them.
>>282408246>does your example looks effeminate to you?He is literally wearing makeup and has a twink body with no facial hair. I think most Westerners would consider that pretty feminine because he doesn’t have an Indian mustache or something.
>>282408256Depends, "X reader" it's a popular category, don't understimate yumes.
>>282408256Men are just better overall at everything. You can’t blame them for shipping us togetheri.
>w.. women will only like fruity me.....
>>282408236Yeah sure op I think you will get your fujo queen by acting the real gay nigga you truly are
>>282408607Ugly bastards and NTR are man-made fantasies to satisfy their fetishes about seeing degenerate women degrading themselves to the point of becoming cheating, pleasure-seeking pig whores that fuck ugly abominations and even animals.
>>282408875now let’s see who consumes bara, hairy men, and gymbro content>101% malesoh....
>>282408951desu the average BL and yaoi artist has no artistic skills or body anatomy knowledge to pull drawing bara
>>282408951I'm not talking about the bulkhead. But do you really think you're going to get laid here by wearing makeup and lipstick like a woman and acting metrosexual? Do you think other fags are not going hit on you if you look like that? Maybe you are some bi zoomer fag or just a retarded ricecel.
>>282409156Who’s talking about wearing makeup and acting like a sissy? I’m just saying that if you’re 6ft lean and look like this >>282408019 you’re literally in the top 0.1% of society and the dating market. I don’t know why you’re so obsessed with bulky hairy men, must be because you already hit your 30s and know it’s over, so it’s just a cope mechanism to tell yourself you’re still attractive for gays.
>>282409245This is what I meant, not that faggy Asian beauty standard you tried to compare. Most young women want guys with an ottermode physique, taller, a chiseled face and a traditional manly personality. Not the K-pop wannabes who plaster on makeup and act like gay boys straight out of some yaoi fantasy.
>>282383839
>>282408264On a closer look yeah this nigga is using makeup which is pretty gay. But he still has that muscular facial structure. It's kinda funny that some zoomers are trying to pull an uno-reverse cosmetic fraud doing what women usually do to men.
>>282409594Everybody on the left could pull off a full beard with ease.The people on the right would look pretty much the same clean shaven.
>>282396598this, the male form has already been perfected
>>282409594Now now we don't live in caveman times. Proper trimming and hygiene exist. Completely rejecting your biological features that's the ultimate sign of faggotry.
>>282383823Reminder when /a/ hated GAR?
>>282408607Have you ever heard of the word "pickme"? Its a term for a woman who is so desperate for male approval that she'll do and say really dumb shit to prove it.Not that this woman is necessarily one, but just because some woman is making YouTube videos sadly does not mean all women like old bastards.
>>282409870even neanderthals had some sense of personal grooming
>>282409594Alexander the Great once said "there is nothing handier to grasp during battle than a beard." No idea if that's just pophistory bs, but I learned about it the other day and thought it was funny.
>>282407285Do hosts even look like this anymore? When I reverse image search these ads I get a blog post from 13 years ago and from the look of the styles present the ads are even older than that.
>>282408607The fact she needs to make a "response" and beg people to join her proves she's an outlier, not the rule.Also, I'm pretty sure what she wants is something more like this than an actual rapist or something that's not LARP.
>>282408080This guy has a more lasting impact on Japanese taste than him
Hairy 6'0 gymfag hereI've ever only been hit on 8 times in my entire life. 5 of them by gay man, 1 by a transexual and 2 by women who were over the age of 35At some point you have to admit that rugged look is not that appealing for young women. You have way more luck if you look like a Twink emo/alt boyC'est la vie
>>282410860Why not just slim down a bit then? You already have the height and lean muscle is the standard for young women's attraction. Seems like you're self-imposing your own inceldom.
>>282410972I'm not an incel in any definition; I don't blame women for what they like, i'm just saying the true. My face is way too fucked to get to that standard.So you just go hagmaxxing. I lost my first time to a 36 year old women I worked with
>>282410860Are you on roid or something?
>>282411038Nah, I like my kidneys and liver thank you very much. Also I don't want to go bald before hitting 45 years old
>>282409397They don't give a shit about your body type so long as you're not fat, lmao. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of women don't even know what "ottermode" means.
>>282409734But they don't need to, because they have good looking facial features that they can show off. Most men who make having a beard their whole personality do it because they have weak chins and jaws, and facial hair lets them hide that.
>>282407631>You do sound like an incelAnd you sound like a retard that shouldn't be on this site. Go back.
>k-rotted fake anime fans spreading their false ideas.Its so easy to spot the K-pop brain rotted fakers.
>>282411485Younger women prefer pretty boys, seethe.
>>282396598How can he be so powerful?......
>>282411531Please... You're not young anymore auntie....
>Insecure faggots showing insecurity about their looksGood luck you fags with your shitty lookmax war. You're living in the biggest sexless era of all time. None of you are ever going to have a fulfilling life.
>>282398041reminder that only fags are attracted to this.
>>282383823I swear I've seen this posted before, what's it actually from? Reminds me of gay porn artists
>>282409940Speaking of GAR, Archer might really be the perfect male design.
Going to the gym doesn't say anything about your physique.
>>282412240meant for >>282410860
>>282410860You're unattractive. I'm 5'11 and somewhat rugged and i went to the gym alot and while i would be lying if i said it had no effect, there was only ever a small difference. Like you know how girls are always making contact with you touching you and shit, well now they hold my biceps and that's pretty much it. tl;dr be handsome
>>282383823now draw him getting railed by a twink
>>282383823I look like this IRL
>>282412240
>>282413010Actually based.
>>282413010GETGETGETTA GET
>>282410642His life is tragic. He was exploited by pedo gays when he was young.
>>282414200and nowadays he looks like Alan Moore, truly a fate worse than death
>>282411937uncle fester?
>>28241064250 years later he still lives rent free on japs minds
>>282410860If you're a hairy and jacked rugged-looking motherfucker, the type of women that are into you are not the type who would walk up to you to hit on you. They expect you to initiate and take control.
>>282383823cringe if he's tallbased if he's short
>>282398041Goatees look like pubic hair irl, but anime men can make it work.
>>282415439Many things only look good in anime form. Blue lipstick for example makes anyone look like a drowned corpse irl.
>>282407285>>282398779Every shoujo male love interest is like 2x the size of the average Jap dude and has like a 6 pack when he's naked. Love and Deepspace is the most popular love sim for women and all the guys are muscular and way more masculine than the average dude. I don't know where this effeminate myth comes from. Even the recent popular kpop movie, demon hunters has girls going crazy over muscles. https://x.com/kevlarized/status/1959210472781271200?s=46 Btw, those are 12 year olds too so this idea that it's only old women is false. Maybe asian girls aren't the biggest fan of beards and shit but they def love muscles.
>>282383823>>282386059>>282387886>>282388078the face should look like Ataru Moroboshi to be perfect
>>282417363Ottermode at beast, no bear in sight
>>282417363I think in this case effeminate ≠ not having muscles.Like sure, LaDS dudes have muscles, but they also look like this.
>>282407285>effeminate menthese are not effeminate men.
>>282417606They are. Effeminate doesn't necessarily mean straight up femboy
>>282417516They also act 10x more masculine/alpha too. If face is the only thing that makes someone effeminate while you ignore everything else then idk what to say.
>>282417516I think calling this neotenic would be best.
>>282417707no they're not. Maybe you meant feminine.But it's more a case of beautiful features being more common in women and being considered more feminine.
>>282417713Ah well when you put it that way, though I figured this was more simply about looks.
Toei thought that Kenshiro didn't look manly enough, so they give him anime only appearance beard, two times.
>>282417839That's something I wanted to add but If you wanna talk strictly looks then>Visible adam apple>Defined collarbone>Defined chin>Defined neck>big hands>very tall>muscles >weight differenceMales in female works has the biggest contrast between female and male.
>>282417363The average asian male has shit genes for facial hair so they would rather have a smooth face than keeping a thin uneven beard
