How do you respond without sounding like an incel?
pls give vagena
she probably had 14 different STDs by that point so just pat her back and say it don matter
>>282433334One sex please.
>>282433334Our wedding could be a first time
>>282433334nobody acts like this IRL
>>282433334There's always more first times if you're creative enough.
>>282433334>Modern anime has become so garbage they are now promoting slut propagandaNot a problem in VNs
>>282433376She's divorced
>>282433414the green girl from the VN you posted has canon sex with a bunch of homeless men thoughever
>>282433334>It's okay though. I'm only here for training, so when I'm in a relationship with another girl, it won't be that awkward
imagine being such a good catch that someone wished they could have spent their first time with youit's a compliment, you just have to get over your own insecurity
>>282433414>>282433437>the green girl from the VN you posted has canon sex with a bunch of homeless men thougheverIs that true? I was planning to play it.
I'm only wanting my hole
>>282433489Yeah, they explicitly say it, although it has no CGs.
>>282433512Why is that whore's route called the best moege route?
>>282433535shitpost
>>282433512So that's why moefag had a meltdown. I’m gonna try reading it
>>282433378and that's why marriage rates are so low they're buried next to fucking dinosaur bones
>>282433334YABBA DABBA DOO!
Failed normalfag thread
>>282433334honestly i can'tmy first reaction was 'damn, even back there?'
>all your girlfriend's ex-boyfriends show up at the end of the school year to see her off one last timeHow do you respond without sounding like an incel?
>>282433334But you're anus is chaste, right?
>>282433334Try not being a little bitch for the first time, why are you even crying?
>>282433603elaborate without sounding mad
>>282433479>you just have to get over your own insecurityOkay. I'm such a good catch, I wish my girlfriend wasn't a whore.
>>282433334
>>282433334She doesn't have ANY first times to share with him.None. Zero.I feel like the magnitude of this statement is being overlooked.Any possible activity you can imagine doing with her. No matter how out-there and deranged and improbable, she has done it with someone else.
>>282433334Anal?
>>282434798I can't believe she's been to the moon and back. I wonder what sex with Elon was like.
>>282433334I would just politely break up with her.Sorry but if I wasn't your first choice, I refuse to go any further.What did the last guy have to do to get her body?
>>282433334https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xl2KSwKM5U
People underestimate how much first time experiences matter, and I’m not just talking about sex. It’s the most impressionable period in a person’s life. Even in a job interview you have to nail the first impression because that’s what sticks with interviewers. Your first concert, first hike, first solo trip overseas, all of it leaves a mark.
>>282433334(You)
>>282433512>they explicitly say itNic->although it has no CGsDropped.
>>282433437My wife Karen...
>>282434311You're free to believe whatever you will, but it will ultimately be your own fault if you end up alone You will need to accept that your chances of finding the right person on the first try are legitimately 1 in a million
>>282435598it's good that you're finally accepting the reality that used goods are valued less.
>>282433334Just say something like>I don't care. I don't have any first times either.Then pump and dump her.
>>282433334T-thanks, you too...*looks down and blushes**keeps silent for the rest of the date**jacks off multiple times after getting home*
>>282436131i say this and do this
>>282433334Sure she has! Like unlubricated anal, or eye socket/nostril/navel penetration, or pregnant sex
>>282435180I think if you actually stop and think about it, you'll find first times usually don't matter. I remember my first time going to an amusement park - it sucked and wasn't anything special. I don't remember my first video game - it certainly wasn't my favorite. I remember the first time I smoked weed - it wasn't special in any way. I have a soft spot for the first anime I watched and the first manga I read, but I also regularly shit on them and they're nowhere near my favorite. I don't remember the first book I read, but I do remember several that could've been the first, but I have mixed feelings about all of them, I wouldn't call any of them particularly good or special. The first time I had cyber sex was a meme and I've never felt any special connection to the girl it was with, I'd be embarrassed to admit it was her. There are other firsts that do matter to me, but there's just as many that don't.>>282435598>your chances of finding the right person on the first try are legitimately 1 in a millionFunny how before the 1960s nobody thought this.You can date without having sex. That's the entire point of "dating." You go on dates together. Fucking was never supposed to be a part of that. Why would you have sex with someone you barely know? And if you've been close to someone for less than 2 years, you don't know them. You're also still growing when you're a teenager, you're not yet the person you're going to be for the rest of your life, so making lifelong decisions at that age usually doesn't work out.Of course, this topic is irrelevant. Why did people used to behave one way and now they behave a different way? Because they're different people and they're just doing what they want to. Telling someone that alcohol is bad for you won't stop them from drinking, will it? They're going to do what they want. And that's fine. If they suffer consequences for it, that's fine, too.
>>282433334By not having that conversation in the first place.
>>282435180I have spoken to a few women I am friend's with about their first time because I am kind of going through a mid life crisis of sorts and thinking about not being a wizard, and then thing that all of them have said was that their first time was not that enjoyable regardless of when it happened (one of them was religious and only lost her virginity when she was 32). All of them said it has to be done just to get it out of the way and then once they develop feelings for someone it gets better.Two things to consider. Firstly, they could all be lying, you can never be sure with women at the end of the day. Secondly, that to me sounds fucking psychotic and the more I think about it me being the constant different one or odd one out has just made me realise that I some kind of evolutionary misfit that should have never existed if everyone thinks this sort of thing is normal.
Anons are so funny.
>>282433334>don't worry, our daughter (my daughterwife) will take care of that
>>282437554To be serious for a second, a first time of anything only matters as much or as little as you want it to. Some people frame their first dollar, others couldn't even tell you when they first earned real pay. You seeing it as a big deal and them not understanding why doesn't mean one of you is wrong or one of you is broken, it just means you view it differently.Now it's probably healthy to try and understand different perspectives on it, but that's ultimately all they are. Some people have sex so casually they hook up regularly outside a relationship, others will wait years before even considering it within one. Some people couldn't tell you when they first had sex but still remember the first time they did it with the person they love like it was yesterday. Everyone's different.>>282434798Damn, I can't believe she even entered her first gunpla group build without me.
>>282433334unbelievably cringe dialogue
>>282438557>Everyone's different.Back in the days before I gave a shit about any of this I would have definitely agreed with you, but I think as I progress through life and work I am increasingly surrounded by a more homogenous group of people to the point where it feels like they are all roughly the same and I am very clearly the odd one out. Not to say one is better than the other but it seems like I am made to feel like I am worse than them.
>>282433334>anyAny?Damn, it's over beyond over
>>282433334m...me too. And that reminds me that I made this (while never watching the series). Heroic Age anyone?>>282437957welcome to the club.
>>282433334Damn, ANY first times? So she did EVERYTHING? Anal? Golden shower? Scat play? Pet play?
>>282433334This implies she also engaged in incest and must have also fucked an underage boy for the taboo first time, does she have an younger brother? Or did she just fuck her dad for the incest and fooled around witha younger kid at a park or something?>
>>282433334>I don't have any first timesdamn bitch you didn't value yourself at all, why should I?
go back to your containment boards retards >>>/r9k/ >>>/adv/
>>282433334That's some incel show, just don't watch it in the first place.
>>282433414>VN don't have a roastie problemKEKAROO
>>282433334I don't know, hug her?
"The better the looks, the more information recollected, and I just want to be happy, if you are genuinely interested I can teach my roleplay techniques."Give more credits now singularity
>>282433334I'll give her the benefit and just say she only takes it up the ass for someone she loves. Now thats true love
>>282433334The more men a woman has fucked, the more meaningful it is if she chooses you over them.
>>282433634Well, it's the same guy who begged the Chad who took his girlfriend's virginity to please become her teacher. He shouldnt care that much
>>282442154TRVKE
>>282442154>choosesshes not your girl, its just your turn
>>282433334Oh, girl, I am sure, if you had any, you would give me a sight
>>282433334Impregnate her
>>282433334>incelGo back.
>>282433489>>282433558Bait or mental illness? Trick question, it's both.
>>282433334>How do you respond without sounding like an incel?your real hymen is in your heart!
>>282443877She broke her heart hymen with her 14th boyfriend.
It’s refreshing to see a story that doesn’t place so much emphasis on virginity and instead focuses on the characters’ relationship. Rather than placing virginity and first love on a pedestal, we should recognize that falling in love with the right person can expose you to many ‘first times’, regardless of your past experiences
>>282433334The only proper response here is to shout>HAJIMEMASHITE!!!at the top of your lungs and then sprint away at full speed, never looking back.
>>282443953So, who did she have her first abortion with?
>>282433334If someone had a fuckload of partners, you should stay away from them. Not because of virginity or whatever, but because if so many of their relationships fell apart, something must be deeply fucked with them, and you don't stick your dick in crazy.
>otaku are such incels you need to make the fact that a woman had previous partners her entire personality to appeal to incels who for some reason fetishize non-virgin women
>>282444157Her father.
>>282443953Almost as realistic as the "pure slut" trope.No one acts like that irl anon.Someone that goes the whole cock carroussel thing but openly acts like >I just wanted to build a familyand>I wish I had any first times to share with youquite literally doesn't exist, since you whole psyche already changed.You're either the root of the "I had many partners, but none stayed" problem, or you're just lying to settle. A story like this feels more like lecturing than anything else.
>>282444269Oh and I don't mean in the>virginitysense, I meant the mental, moral, you could say "soul" sense. You never put any worth in yourself, but then you act like someone with self-worth.
>>282433334what's the problem?
>>2824439538th time's a charm...
>>282443102>In terms of the OP, the incel is the authorThe author is a woman. I love posts like yours.
Affordable.
>>282433334"It's not my first time either."
>>282444818Does she offer discounts for groups?
Why do you care? She wasn't your girlfriend when she was receiving the sperm of those 14 other gusy
>>282433334*dabs*
>>282433634that title is depressing as fuck. Man, is this Japanese postmodernism? Women characters not being virgins? I know Jap women and women in general tend not to be, but who gives a shit about them.
>>282433334Well at least she feels bad about it, unlike that whore Meguro.
>>282435180My first time was pretty shit and I don't really care all that much. I'm just glad to have lost it. I care more about the 700 bucks that bitched ripped me off promising she would pay it back but never did
>>282445118It's a series about teaching women how to fall in love even after sleeping with a lot of men, and men how to approach the relationship and give proper support to those kind of women.I think it's sweet.
>>282436416>Telling someone that alcohol is bad for you won't stop them from drinking, will it?It sucks being a teetotaler in a world of alcoholics. Sex is one of those base natural things that only social mores and self control stopped two pubescent people from doing what they wanted to do, but when those break down having that self control is like expecting people to be impressed that you can do the worm backwards, especially as a man.Anyways, back to nip cartoons...
>>282445347Why not create a series that teaches women how not to sleep with a lot of men to begin with?
>>282437554yeah yeah real women suck anon. We know.>evolutionary misfitNo, you're a social misfit.
>>282443953have you ever heard of the phrase "non-starter"?
>>282445386Why teach people how to evacuate a fire instead of teaching them how to not start a fire? By the time they find the manga maybe it's already too late. What's done is done, you gotta learn from mistakes and move on.
>>282443953The absolute fucking state of modern anime
>>282445503>Why teach people how to evacuate a fire instead of teaching them how to not start a fire?Are you implying women just sleep with dozens of guys by accident?
>>282433334Is this show just incel ragebait? Why would she even bring that up?
>>282433334SUFFAH BISH!
>>282433334>get her pregnant>her first time>give birth and abandon her and child>her first time>repeatedly show up in her life and rape her>her first time
>>282445347Married with Children explored the same concept.
>>282433334I got my first time with your sister. Now we're "even"
>>282442154Women choose who she has sex with, men choose who he marriesThe only meaning you get is that there are more men who did not choose to marry her. It's a gigantic red flag if anything
>>282445760every night I pray for an RGR world
>>282445347this is depressing. this is not a romantic topic at all. women like this are for casual flings.
>>282445760Most women won't have sex with a man they wouldn't also want to marry, and just because a man wants to marry a woman doesn't mean she will want to marry him back.So no, it's not balanced in the slightest. For most relationship dynamics women hold all the power men, with the exception of a small subset of highly desirable men who hold all the power over women.
Why does the average /a/non has the same concept of love as a 14 year old maiden?
>>282445347That sounds like ragebait. In truth, romantic men simply wouldn't marry a town bicycle, and men who would don't think about romance seriously, they just want a partner who could make them a sandwich and offer holes at night while they focus on their work and other shit. And women are the same - romantic women wouldn't willingly sleep with anyone who's not serious about relationships, and town bicycles have a purely pragmatic view of sex. There's no such thing as a whore who secretly wants to be a princess with a nuclear family.
>>282433334Was this supposed to convince the average Japanese male to avoid dating sluts? Cause it's pretty convincing.>if you date a non-virgin she won't be impressed by anything you do for herwow thanks for the warning guess I'll avoid non-virgins then.
>>282444215>otakus are such insecure incels that, no matter how improbable, you have to explicitly state that the girl has never had any previous relationships or else they'll piss and shit themselves.
>>282445347>teaching women how to fall in love even after sleeping with a lot of men,What a wild sentence lmao, the implications are so insane I can't really see how is this 'sweet.'This is borderline sociopathic.
>>282445347What she says in your pic is basically "I don't love you as much as you love me". This would nuke any relationship instantly. That's not wholesome or sweet, it's literally the worst possible thing you could say to your romantic partner.
>>282433334Being the first is only a matter of opportunity, while being the best is actually a matter of skill.
>>282445993>with the exception of a small subset of highly desirable men who hold all the power over women.That's because men are competing with other men. The 'unbalance' comes from them losing the competition.
>>282445503Actually, you're taught how to not start a fire multiple times before in your life, way way before people teach you how to evacuate a fire.If YOU started the fire, it's probably a good thing to know how to evacuate yes, but it's still YOUR fault and the consequence of your own actions - you were taught how to not start a fire (be the school's bike) but you still started one.
>>282433334>no first times to shareNot even anal?
>>282446514What she's saying is that sex is not as exciting for her as it obviously is for the virgin male character, because she's already experienced it many times before, which is a conundrum that likely happens a lot IRL. But they learn to be excited about other things together.>>282446191No it's supposed to be sweet, but you need to look at it from the point of view of a woman as it was written by one and published in a shoujo magazine. You're looking at it from too much of a male perspective.
>>282446571Creating that opportunity is a skill in and of itself.
>>282439486I want a pervert x slut manga smut if possible where the pervert manages to find new "first times" to take from the slut but in a wholesome way
>>282433334I was offput by this, but not as much as the MC not getting any for 5+ years they were in a relationship.Like, come on. The fuck is this?It's the worst of both worlds.He also never got made fun of for being with the town bike for so long which I thought was unrealistic.
If anime ever stops putting emphasis on chastity then i will probably just stop watching most of it. It will be a slippery slop for other shit and wont be different that modern western media but animated in the short time.
>>282446738>but not as much as the MC not getting any for 5+ years they were in a relationshipWhat the actual fuck. If you are going to date a slut, the least you can do is have fun with her.
>>282446657>But they learn to be excited about other things together.>other thingsThat implies she's never as excited about sex as he is, even past his first time, which is just depressing. Also, assuming that her previous partners were all one-time flings, how the fuck is she less excited about having sex with someone she actually loves for once?>published in a shoujo magazineOf course, where else.
>>282446829>how the fuck is she less excited about having sex with someone she actually loves for once?That's the thing. She's not sure she loves him yet. And they only want to consummate when she is. Which will take fucking YEARS.>>282446807It's baffling.
Turning sluts pure with the power of LOVE™ is peak male performance.
>>282446657can't even see women relating to this because most women don't go around having sex with every guy they meet, you need to look at it specifically through the pov of a woman that had sex with everyone in her high school, but finally decided to find "pure love"that's extremely unrealistic and you'll probably end up teaching said demographic the wrong things here
>>282446738>I was offput by this, but not as much as the MC not getting any for 5+ years they were in a relationship.Huh? So even with all of her experience she did nothing for the MC?The just pretended to be>pure high school couple going and dates and h-holding hands kyaaaawhen she's so experienced she has no "first times" to share with him?That's depressing as FUCK, quite literally no men would go through that and makes no fucking sense at all.
>>282446890>That's the thing. She's not sure she loves him yet. And they only want to consummate when she is. Which will take fucking YEARS.I'm firmly convinced that most shoujo writers are old maids who have zero experience with real-life romance.
>>282446738that's wild lmao>He also never got made fun of for being with the town bike for so long which I thought was unrealistic.obviously written by a woman
>>282442154I haven’t read the VN for Nukitashi, but doesn’t “sex for love” go against the free use “sex for pleasure and just for the sake of sex” paradigm of their society? It is odd that she’s making an argument over what sexual circumstances best constitute love when her own ideology doesn’t even really admit to any connection between the two.
>>282433334Mines were shit so I don't mind a redo
>>282433334I kiss her and tell her it's fine. We can share the rest of our lives together. I then ignore the replies calling me a cuck.Rhen I have sex with her.
>>282446890imagine the twist if after years she decides that she doesn't love him and just fucks off looking for the next onenow that's would've been a great story with a great message
>>282447142man my first time was so shit I couldn't even come.I ended up jerking off in front of her to finish and released the biggest load. I don't know how she felt about that.
>a purity thread has actual discussion instead of seething and slut lovers are even winning/a/ is healing...
>>282433334Ask her if she has any recordings of her first times...
>>282445347I liked it but it falls flat because Meguro is an autistic and all her issues do not stem even a little bit from having slept with a lot of men, but rather from being autistic. Meguro has no real lingering feelings for any of her previous boyfriends, she has no issue with a lack of sex, she has no habits and preconceptions picked up from previous relationships that really cause any conflict in this one. Every conflict in this stems from her being not all that experienced in a proper relationship, basically being a virgin in all but name only, or being autistic. Like I said I really liked it but not for the premise, which is basically just window dressing. The only time it matters is mainly when interacting with all the cunts around her who hate her for it, and when Koga's overthinking and spazzing out in his head.
>>282433334ask her to cum to a BBC while i watch in the cuck chair
>>282446657Women aren't human, got it.
>>282433334>who gives a shit about stupid stuff like that. >i don't want your first time, I want your bestpossibilities are endless if you're not a dumbass
>>282433414i fucking sluts tho
what's the appropriate reaction to this situation?
>>282433334first time in her butt
>>282448413uhhh based?
>the MC not getting any for 5+ years they were in a relationship.What is the point of the name of the series being "You were experienced, I was not" then, if the experience part is only used for cheap ass drama
>>282433334Funny how female sexual failure (inability to be selective) gets framed as male sexual failure (you don't like it? you're an incel)
>>282449043they wanted to wait until marriage, no kidding
>>282447031here's a hint anon: people who are in love or have experienced love don't spend years of their lives training to make art that depicts love
would you marry her?
>>282449231Fucking makes no sense, it's such an easy and good hook into the>learned that sex is a lot more than just ponos in vagoo until cum>it can be something more intimate and special>the experience one learns this because of the inexperienced one>but also uses their experience to give great pleasure to the inexperienced one, that is now their most important personI'm not saying the series should have been some kind of smut, but removing the sex part and only trying to portray the "experienced" part as a negative for drama is really retarded and makes no sense. Like, what is the message here? Being experienced is nothing but a negative and there is absolutely nothing you can take from this, or there is nothing you can bring to the table while being experienced? The only compromising part must come from the inexperienced one into accepting you? That's so ass.
>>282449888>sex is a lot more than just ponos in vagoo until cumPornsick take. All the techniques and positions and pacing in the world can only emulate a fraction of the importance and sense of intimacy of being woman's first.
>>282433334Ok, you're in a sleeper zone.But really. Starting a family and having kids with girl who's good at making bad decisions? Hell no, it's not a romance, it's just misery. What a shame.
>>282450171But that's already a done deal, the series by principle can't be about that.So if you're trying to lecture people that "being the first" (or the 2nd, or the 14th in this case) isn't as special as people make it out to be and there's more to it, then don't make a series about things not being special if they're "not the first"I'm not trying to discuss sex here, I'm trying to say that the series is what it is only for dramabait and nothing else
I wish I was autistic enough to just view sex as just sex. I know its gay in our modern world, but I still feel like it should mean fucking something. Like damn youre bumping uglies and showing everything to one another. But we're also horny monkeys so who the fuck knows.
>>282433334Why would I be mad exactly?
>>282433414True, because there's no modern VNs
>>282433334>sorry I'm not a virgin *sobs*>said no woman ever past the middle agesotaku shit is so embarassing
Is this the cuck and used goods apologists thread?
>>282433334Only low-income failures and/or desperate men would want a woman like this.
>>282433414Someone post the violet hair color slut chart
>>282433334>assure her>fuck her>ghost herhas fucked at least 20 guys. what's one more.
>>282433334>have you ever gone to Colombia and had sex on a Llama while doing cocaine? no? well, now you see there's a first time for everything. in an unrelated note, wanna go to Colombia?
>>282433414Moebutabros we cant stop winning
It's so funny to me that people can't understand why guys would have a problem with women that bounces from man to man. It'd be one thing if she just happened to have a partner thaf she legitimately loved in her past, its to be expected even when you reach adulthood. But why should any be obligated to wife some chick riding the cock carousel ?
>>282453265Men who experienced the humiliation of marrying a whore want other men to experience it as well.
>>282453265the great irony in all of this is that guys will indeed put up with it, despite the problems with it, but the woman's own dissatisfaction is what sinks these relationships in the overwhelming majority of cases. Turns out that being a whore generally screws women in terms of relationships even if dudes are willing to look past it. It's just easier/smarter to not be or deal with a whore in the first place. It's like the woman version of broken men
>>282433334Even the butthole?
>>282453448It gets harder to please women, not necessarily in a sexual way, the more men they get with. The expectations just keep piling up.
>>282433334Nasty, lol!
>>282433334What about raw creampies and childbirth?
>>282453265>Men aren't supposed to have standards. Apparently there is a myth of men being dogs who go around sleeping any woman out there and high-fiving each other for doing it WHILE also being the vast majority of virgins. Schrodinger's man; a man who is both sleeping around and yet a virgin incel
>>282433334Damn, she even gave up her ass?
>>282433334The term incel here makes no sense. Incels are happy to take whatever they can get; they just can't get any. They're the kind of people who use phrases like "experienced" instead of "whore". If you turn down a slut like her, that'd make you a volcel.
>>28245326590's sitcoms buckbroke a lot of America
>>282453636It's their word, they can't uncouple from it. It's used to defend bad women who make bad decisions. I see why birth rates are so low and understand why half the population is fed up with the other half's forced cultural acceptance. No amount of modernity is going to undo 20,000 years of biological functions.
>>282433334Turn around and walk away.
I wish I had a girlfriend like Runa
>>282433378Yeah that's why Asians are going extinct. Soon our biology will adapt, and men will be the desired ones.
>>282433334>I'm not planning to have any STD, so no worries.
>>282454003They're a dime a dozen, anon.
I am mentally ill derived from lack of social skills and a small penis.Who am I?
>>282454316You are a Bejitabro.
>>282454316Panty schizo
>>282454316The average gook otaku.
>>282454316I'm sorry bro...
>>282433334I can fix her heart
>>282454097Every group of people is going extinct outside of sub 1k per year shitholes
>>282454097>men will be the desired ones.Why aren't they already? Men are are the strong ones, the ones who work, and the ones who do cool shit. Why do they have to approach women? Why not make women approach men instead since they need protection and money? I mean its safer for women and men don't have to waste their time.
>>282454574Women do approach men though. I've been approached before by attractive girls and I'm no catchI'm poor and a fat bastard
>>282454316You're behind every post in this thread talking about 3dpd on a 2d board
>>282454574They approach high value men aka rich, powerful, strong, big cock, leader and or handsome.What you are seeing are the dregs of men who need to go after women.The good men never have problems getting women and reproducing.>but the handsome men who are all sexlessHandsome is an add on, the other things are what is important.
>>282454665>fat bastardHey that's an 11 out of 10 in anime. If you were 2D you would be slaying every JK idol.
>>282454665Maybe you have an attractive face despite being fat.
>>282433334That doesn't make any sense. If I reject her then I'm automatically not an incel. Forcing me to accept her or telling me how to feel would make her the bitter one.
>>282449339No.
>>282433334Oh well?I'd never be in that situation to begin with, not even sluts like me.
>>282445760TRVKE
>>28245361420/80 rule anon. that statement is both true and false at the same time depending on the part the talk is about.
>>282451895Karla Homolka gave her sisters virginity to her BF as a birthday present because she felt really guilty and bad about not being a virgin when she met himPeople say all these "unrealistic" things in anime/manga can't happen in realityBut they do happenJust not for (You)There was a guy living with 7 loli/hebe sisters harem for years for exampleAnd to think these are just the cases where something goes wrong and they get caught, you can only imagine how many will never be found out about...
>>282433334unapologetic sluts are better.
>>282433334I just don't watch anything with used goods. They aren't attractive in anime, much less in real life.
>>282446754Despite what ragebaiters and failed normalfags would tell you, modern anime is more chaste than what it used to be decades ago.
>>282433334I'd rather my first time be with my waifu.
>>282455157That's not a problem. A slut who tells you so is honest. It's the ones who try and play both sides of the field that people don't like.
If I had a similar high body count and lots of dating experience, I wouldn't mind dating a slut. But since I'm nowhere near that, the absolute gap not just in bed but also in 'romantic intelligence' fucking terrifies me.
>>282435598Brainrot answer. A lot of people have their first time with their life partners, I know some of them myself. And being alone is better than being in a shitty relationship, which doesn't warranty that you won't end up as a lonely grandpa anyway.You can do better than sloppy seconds, my man. Just save money if you're so affraid of dying alone.
>>282433334N T R
>>282455361You can date slut just for the experience it’s the same as taking a job. Your first shitty job isn't supposed to be your whole career
>>282455137>Karla HomolkaNo idea who that is but google shows some serial killer, is that really who you use as an example? An extremely abnormal person?And what does some serial pedo (probably muslim) have to do with anything?The point is that no woman during modern times will apologuize to a guy for being a virgin. Perhaps a rape victim being the sole exception.
>>282433334It's okay. I'm also used goods
>>282433414>Modern anime has become so garbage they are now promoting slut propaganda>NowReally?
>>282445000I ain't committing to a girl like that.
>>282455361Take it as a learning experience and drop her after. Like the 20 guys before you.
>>282446380>This is borderline sociopathic.Femcels are, yes.
>>282433334Renako would say:>have you lost them with another girl yet?
>>282433334"You don't want a man who cares about that."
>>282435180>I have to put in all this effort to chase after a bunch of used goods and make an impossibly perfect first impression towards them>job hunting is pretty much the same in a senseFuck that shit. Still working on the second one for now but predictably it's going nowhere.
>>282455453The manga was made for incels with nice guy complex who fell for the hot slut from their school and think they are the only one who can do threat her right.True purityGODs would never settle for used goods.
>>282453265The red alarm for me is that so many guys would go out for a pack of smokes or have an early meeting when having to deal with her. If post nut clarity makes a guy want to bail then there is a good reason.
Just go to brothels, man.
>>282453416Basically this.
>>282453265But why should any be obligated to wife some chick riding the cock of someone she legitimately loved in her past ?
>anons would rather be alone and miserable for their entire lives than get with a 10/10 girl who loves them and wants to do anything to make them happy just because of some inconsequential events in her past
>>282456062>AIIIIEEEEE MARRRY THE USED GOOODS OR YOU BE ALONE FOREEEVVERRRCuck cope
>>282456062>10/10 girl who loves them and wants to do anything to make them happythis is your mistake
>>282456097You have some better prospect lined up?
>>282456134Better than settling for someone who I don't give a shit about? Yes, I'm sorry if you don't.
>>282454316You’re an incel bro
>>282433479>it's insecurityyour argument seems to be that men are incapable of having deeply held preferences in women. do you genuinely believe that?
>>282453416I've had coworkers in the past give me weird looks when I told them I wasn't married. And then they would go on to describe horror stories from their relationships. I don't know what these people want anymore.
>>282456062yeah?
>>282456168Cuckels are desperate for any woman and get mad when you don't.
>>282456164[x] Doubt
>>282456175They want you to be as miserable as them obviously.
>>282433334"Even anal?"
Sluts that suddenly decide to act like well mannered woman because "it's time to settle down" are beyond disgusting.
>>282456175Most of the married guys I know are living miserable lives. When I worked in retail it was common to see hags flirting with customers, so I can understand why.
>>282456062those anons are silly
>>282433334I want you to make believe it's the first time, and I gotta say to you, love will find a way and that's always true
>>282456280It's cute.
>>282456280How is she a slut? She just had previous relationships
>>282456280Sluts are fine as long as they aren't bitchy, they are basically bros. I'm not attracted to used goods so I don't hate them. Cuckcels who shit their pants when you mention that you aren't as desperate as them are the really annoying ones.
>>282456175most people want a good relationship but get stuck in bad relationships they're scared to or will be screwed if they leave. If life is a couch a good relationship is like having somebody to carry it with you then bang and cuddle on it. If it's a bad relationship then it's like having to carry the couch with that person laying on it yelling at you. Many dream of the former but get trapped in the latter
>>282438892The average person will be the average person, and you're right they become undistinguishable with time. But we're all on /a/ aren't we? For better or worse, we're in a small bubble of 'not average'
>>282456062>a 10/10 girl who loves them and wants to do anything to make them happydoesn't exist here
>>282445993>Most women won't have sex with a man they wouldn't also want to marry,Holy shit I haven’t seen someone this wrong before in a long time.
>>282447309Call her up and ask
>>282454316Literally me
>>282454316This guy >>282456062
>>282456660They'd rather marry the hot badboy they think they can "fix" and turn into a good husband over the already stable and reliable yet boring beta who doesn't excite her any day.The badboys are just never actually interested in marrying her back.
>>282456062>harboring another man's semen>inconsequentialyeah right
>>282433334>without sounding like an incelOOGA BOOGA ME TOO UNVIRGIN GIB VAGEENA
>>282456365trvkebut 3Dsimps will keep on deluding themselves regardless
>>282456062>wants to do anything to make them happyHonestly it pisses me off when someone is trying to make me happy.
I am a virgin and that makes me a superior lifeform, a filthy impure whore like her should not even have the right to look in my direction.
>>282457372Unironically.I believe the rumor that women steal life force from men through sex and relationships is actually real.This is why women turn into ugly witches when they get old and men become more rugged kind of handsome.
>>282433334yeet
>>282454097You do realize that japan has a suicidal work culture right? The reason they have issues is because there's no time for sex for men or women. Still better thank south korea which looks like it's going to go into an insane gender war soon.
>>282457568Korean women sound somewhat worse than white women.
>>282455442soulless transactional interactions like that are utterly inhuman. treating other people as merely a means to an end rather than an end in themselves is not something that should be done.
>>282455442Do this
>>282433334It doesn't matter. It's not like you are retarded enough to use her as anything more than comfort woman. You aren't, right? Right...?
>>282457779Some anons are retarded enough for that.
>>282433334respond?i'd walk away
>>282457619If it makes you feel better they only hate korean men.
>>282456062This argument can only be made exactly because it's unrealistic and never happens in real life, let's be real.10/10 women know their value, so you either won't find themselves going around taking every cock OR they'll be a pornstar for a couple of years and drop down to 3/10 after their peak.Self-worth is important, and there is no good person in the world that acts like they have no self-worth, while preaching to be someone with self-worth.
>>282445347Just wait until you read the last few chapters and the ending.
>>282433334I don't have anything to say to used goods.
>>282433334I must have eaten pizza thousands of times throughout my life, and this will make the next slice I eat no less delicious. There are some joys that will never fade.
>Today I will post NTR shit/a/ every fucking day
>>282458631Did other men ejaculate inside those pizzas?
>>282433414because 99% of female characters in VNs are sluts
>>282458731Various men stuck their disgusting penis fingers all over it brother, I'm still slurpin it up. But let me let you in on a secret: every single atom in your body is replaced over time due to metabolism and homeostasis. That means evertually even sluts won't have a SINGLE molecule that ever came into contact with anybody's penis.
>>282458765Is this what they call quantum virginity or slutness?
>>282450171>hurrr only the guy who deflowers is specialTouch grass incel
>>282453265They want to have their cake and eat it too, what's not to understand?
>>282433334Idk, will I sound like an incel if I laugh? Cause that shit is just comical.
>>282433675>But you're anus is chaste, right?"I don't have any first times to share with you."Did she stutter?
>>282458585spoil me, anon
>>282435180Literally no foid cares about their V card taker
>>282458982Even childbirth? that sounds grim.
>>282453189Kek
>>282459036Women never forget their first.
>>282433334Even the butt?
>>282433334MARRAIGE
>>282435180Like an anon already said, it doesn't matter.
>be me>get invited to some show by ex gf that I haven't seen or spoken to in 10 years>dayofthemeeting.jpg>all she talks about is all the experiences she had with her multiple boyfriends during these 10 years>literally in all her stories she mentions some guy>this goes for about 1 hour>apparently at least one guy at the show is also her ex-bf>mentions that she's sad that it didn't work out between her and her first bf (not me, but a guy that I knew), because she felt a real connection there>get disgusted, despite being into NTR and all that stuff>pre-show starts, is kinda boring>make some excuse and leave before the actual show starts>no idea if she did it all on purpose to make me jealous or notBackground is that she actually "cheated" on me (we weren't officially going out though so maybe it's more like BSS) at some language exchange school abroad. We met up 3 years later and went out and she might have sparked my NTR fetish after teasing me through phone that she'll do "it" again when I couldn't make it to some party.Sorry for the blog, but just wanted to illustrate that the girl in the OP might still be pure compared to some 3DPDs and less in-your-face about her experiences.
If you think you can not have first times anymore, it first of all shows a critical lack of imagination.
Is this board full of children? I refuse to believe anyone over the age of 22 is posting in this thread.
>>282459743>the girl in the OP might still be pure compared to some 3DPDswell, duhpeople aren't mad because the girl in the OP is not pure, people just react to how retardedly unrealistic it feels for a story that is trying to tell the opposite messagebasically, the problem is her being "pure" that is the problem there (not in the "I love sluts, hate pure girls" sense, but in the "bro this shit is quite literally impossible, it doesn't happen so why are you doing that")
>>282459785I personally am lying out of my ass to try and make people mad.
>>282459785being old doesnt mean its okay to be a cuck
With these things there's no knowing, we just have to try and see /But I'd rather be working for a paycheck than wait to win the lottery
>>282446897MR. ADVERTISER, GET DOWN!!!
>>282459792My point is she's pure by today's standards and the message of the show is beneficial for guys pointlessly looking for a unicorn. You won't find it. Girl with 1 or 2 ex-bfs is the norm now. The show is trying to re-wire your brain in order to help you find a "pure" wife.
>>282459942>My point is she's pure by today's standardsBut that's the whole point, as implied by your post they don't exist.The pure sluts don't exist.You might find pure girls, you might find sluts, don't you won't find a girl like the one from the OP, and if the message is trying to teach people to accept those girls, then it's a shit message because they simply don't exist.If you're twisting reality to teach people that they shouldn't have twisted views of reality, then you are starting with the wrong foot.
"First times" are merely allocation overlaps. From an outside perspective, we all exist along such an infinitesimal small time and space vector that it is amazing we ever get to meet and like anyone compatible at all. Therefore we shouldn't worry so much about postponing our first times to a hypothetical even better later situation.
>Say it.>"we must be better men.">That's right, my wife's son.
>>282456062>just because of some inconsequential events in her pastThen why did the whore start crying and telling me about it? Could it be because she's deeply ashamed of it and wants my pity?
>>282459942It's still better to chase down a virgin woman, even if a girl has only been with 1 or 2 men the likelihood of cheating and divorce increases drastically, virginity is the best for both parties for overall satisfaction with the relationship. It's mind boggling that people would defend non virginity when chastity has always been extremely valued across all cultures.
>>282433334Sucks to suck
>>282433479>insecurity
>>282433334Really? *Any* first times? You mean you got fucked in your ass, pussy and mouth? You already did every imaginable romantic thing? Isn't that a bit much for a 17 year old?
>>282459994I love how slutlovers get unapologetically philosophical when is time to defend used goods.
>>282443908That 14th boyfriend? Me.
>>282442154Is that what women tell their settled beta cucks?
This isn't really hot for anyone who doesn't mind or prefers experienced women. It's just wish fulfilment for retards who think they're enlightened for giving up on the promised 72 divine virgin gfs and settling for the 10/10 super hot slut who will immediately feel shame and be spiritually virginial once you start dating her
>>282460188>spiritually virginialThis, perfect definition that sure shows how ridiculous it is when you put it in words like this
>>282446178Because that's the only love that counts when you're sick and frail
>>282433334>Have you ever heard of a Tennessee Log Jammer?
>>282460160I'm just thinking about my relationships and how random many of them started and ended. It makes it hard to believe in star crossed lovers fated by destiny one and only relationships. But maybe I just haven't found mine.
>>282460310Fucking kek, I lost
>>282433334>slut redemptionfor me, it's slut despair
>no story about guys fucking around until they find the right girlit's not fair
>>282460413Casanova?
>>282460413idk man pretty sure it would exist in shoujo. First thing that comes to mind is something like Ouran.
>>282460413>he doesnt read shoujo and j*sei
>guy finds the right girl>romantic>girl finds the right guy>depressing
>>282460601the explanation is probably because that's how things are in normal, natural societies and hukan customsignoring extreme cases, men are taught to be the ones to approach women, which implies the one with the power to make the decision/the pick is the woman
>>282433334The girl in the OP isn't a literal slut though. Something important is that she's very young, still in high school. She's a lovely person but every relationship she's had, all she knows is getting taken advantage of as all the guys she was with were only in it for lust. Until eventually she does date a guy that is genuinely into her and the story that unfolds because of it.
>>282454665fucking thisive been approached by big girls who have said i have cute eyes or a cute smile when i look like a toadit's so bizarre
>>282460712How convenient
>>282460712So did she put out or not?
>>282460712Virgin men have really gaslit themselves into thinking every fuck a woman has had was some mega traumatic event and their dick will be the one to fix everything instead of, you know, sex being a thing people enjoy doing. You don't really see women authors write sluts like this.
>>282460930the author of the LN that this anime is based on is a woman
>>282458585>>282458988Seconded.
>I should accept a woman as my girlfriend/wife even when she was plastered with gallons of cum by her ex boyfriends Why should I do that, genuinely speaking
>>282460712Stupid take.You're making her the be a complete retard here, how did she learn NOTHING from her previous relationships? You naturally can't be a "lovely person" that has core, nuclear family values and act like some kind of zero value person, that's unironically impossible for anyone normal, free of some kind of mental issue/block.People like this are either liars or sociopathic autists that can't learn from life experiences.It's like going on a killing rampage as a serial killer, but also being a lovely person that believes in life, Jesus, and everyone has the right to live and no one can take this from them.Extremely convenient story.
>>282460973I just checked her works and she did a bunch of lolishit so I will refrain from badmouthing her any further. I will contend that most women authors do not write sluts like this (e.g. Beastars) especially in shoujo.
>>282433414unfathomably based
>>282460930pretty sure the author is a woman, that's exactly why the feMC is so unrealistic
>>282458631Fattie
>>282460930This series has a woman author. Get your head out of your ass.
>>282460187It's funny because the blonde bitch explicitly tells him that they were the one who pumped and dumped her, she never rejected any of them.
>>282454097Holy cope. If you can’t get a woman now it’s only going to get harder when we all have sex robots. There is nothing men can give that women want or need anymore. Best hope is to become rich enough to pay a woman to pretend to like you.
>>282461049You shouldn't, that's the trick
>>282459942Pure sluts are more of an unicorn that virgin girls, anon. Have some standards.
>>282433334Have you ever asked your mom how she lost her virginity?
>>282461404No, have you?
>>282461404Your mom is a love interest?
>>282449198They can't handle the consequences so they just cope by calling everyone insecure.Purity was valued even ages ago.Imagine saying to a woman "I used to be a millionaire but I'm sorry, I have no money left to share with you..."
>>282459942someone that mad multiple boyfriends and had sex with all of them and let them cum inside, doesn't really hate the exes, has no first times to give anymore, and has sex on the first date and, even by today's standards, not pure at all anon>but she has christian valuesthe author giving her "pure" values while learning nothing from the above makes her either a slut that is just a complete retard or a unicorn, take your pick
>>282460973NTAShe's aiming to the male audience tho See >>282455843Women love possessive men
>>282433334"Hey alright. Did you see how cute that girl trying to catch the goldfish was?"
Don't care, sex is sex.
>>282458982N-not even her first lovers suicide?
>>282433334"Bet you haven't had sex while eating a whole roast chicken before, that's a first time."
>>282443953And then they didn't have sex until college or something, shit sucks.
>>282433414This.
>>282435180This is fuckin stupid because you can't equate some of these things.
>>282461992the boy clearly has really low standards, so is that truly surprising?
>>282433334How about first time being rejected for being a slut?
>>282460187Yes.
>>282444187Stick it in crazy, then run away like the others.
>>282462018I still remember losing my very first concert virginity if that made any sense. Remember every second of the live
>>282443953>my biggest dream is being a tradwife>that's why I had sex with every guy I met?????????????????Unironically who writes this shit? Did no one every pointed out how little sense this makes? Where the fuck is the editor?
>>282462099>Unironically who writes this shit?A woman
>>282460187And that's what beta cucks tell themselves to cope as well.>>282460712t. beta cuck
>>282461064>women avoids any accountability and plays the victimA that's why it's a well written and a realistic story.
>>282462214Every bad decision...just happened to her!
>>282461268Artificial wombs will make the value of flesh incumbators plummet, sex robots are an existential threat for w*m*n. Human life begins with a sperm.The very reason why they pretend they'll come up on top is that they're scared, and passive aggression like "actually WE will enjoy the sexbots more" is the only way females know to try and retort back.
>>282460712thisshe isn't a slut, she is just a VICTIM, she's a lovely girl that had sex with multiple men while STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL but it's not her fault, she was just TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF because she only met BAD MEN and she learned nothing from being taken advantage of because she's a very PURE AND INNOCENT girl and every bad decision she made is actually SOMEONE ELSE'S fault, but thank god she found just the RIGHT GUY, an ACTUAL MAN, that she obviously deserves and that didn't take advantage of her and he's even willing to NOT have sex with her for more HALF A DECADE so he can get a proper job to take care of herthat's really sweet
>>282433334You bastard benchod, I'll rape you now
>>282462305You can fix her.
>>282462367Romeo and Cumdumpster, the modern classic.
>>282462399I'm good, fresh girls turn legal every month.
>>282462367You know, I'd totally watch an anime with that plot but also massive amounts of irony about it like the post.
>>282462367Having negative foresight stats is not a good thing and her used goodsness is all on her.
>>282462242Not really. It would have been a realistic story if the girl was either really fucking retaded, a liar, or an autist.The story trying to portray her as a "pure" girl is extremely unrealistic. The complaint wasn't that she was a slut, or that she's avoiding accountability, the complaint is that the story simply doesn't work from the very start if she does have those strong values she's present as having.As in, if it WAS a story about her avoiding accountability and playing the victim then it would have been a well written and realistic story, but it isn't.
>>282433334I would reply:"Don't worry, I was just going to cum'n'dump you anyway you useless bitch lmao, now less words, more action" *you shove the retarded bitch on the ground, rip her yukata and start pistoning her used pussy*
>>282449260this lapalissade made me laugh
>>282461482His mom is my love interest.
I hate to break it to you anons but there's a reason why maiden love is a thing. There is no such a thing as a girl who gets her everything in a relationship just to get pumped and dumped, multiple times, and doesn't end utterly bitter and jaded.
>>282461638OP girl had multiple guys nakadashi her? that's kinda nasty
>>282436592I hate this stupid wormslut
>>282462525We know, that's why people avoid those.
>>282433334'It's not first time I hear this shit'
>>282433437>Virgin Sex>Sex with Protagonist OnlyLiar!
>oh don't worry if I've fucked every guy in the city that's all in the past we're lovers>um actually all her past relationships and sex "traumatized" her>proceeds to never have sex with youIS CASUAL SEX GOOD AND HEALTHY FOR A NORMAL RELATIONSHIP OR NOT WHAT IS THE MESSAGE
Stop trying to justify used goods. It's not good for you.
>>282462582It's good strategy if you're a woman
>>282462571nice photoshop edit
>>282462471>she does have those strong values she's present as havingBy being a cumdumpster.That's why I'm saying, it's well written, since a women will LARP as a virgin Mary, yet still somehow spread her legs by "accident".
>>282433334It's okay, we can still be friends.
>>282462576>IS CASUAL SEX GOOD AND HEALTHY FOR A NORMAL RELATIONSHIP OR NOT WHAT IS THE MESSAGEWhatever woman finds convenient is good, because she can do nothing wrong. That da maaasssage, you fool of a took.
>>282462613friendzoning a woman is guaranteed to send them off the rails and based as fuck
>>282462471This.The whores in Nukitashi are 100% more attractive because they don’t feel shame about anything they did and don’t do that cringe, unrealistic shit like "I wish I was your first, uwaaaah"funny how a woman that fucked 5000 men is more attractive than a girl trying to pass as pure trad
>>282439133Heroic Age! What a mention. It's been 16 years
>>282462656Both your examples suck and so do you. A whore is a whore is a whore.
>>282462656They both belong in the trash
>>282462672>>282462675>Using 3DPD logic in 2DHoly tourism, 2D whores with no shame can be cute sometimes
>>282462656Both suck
>>282461064There can be people with warped worldviews, being raised or having problematic experiences that makes them see things and behave in certain ways that they consider normal in their minds when it's not all in reality. I wouldn't call her a retard, but the thing with young people is how impressionable they are and that they need good guidance to get the right ideas.
>>282462656the sluts in nukitashi are equally cringe for trying to get with the MC and defending their past/their whore waysat least the ones who're just whores and not in it for a relationship are somewhat oknot to mention someone like rei is an awful example with her background as a child prostitute
>>282462706There is no such thing as 2D whore. You're talking about 3DPD inside of 2D
>>282462706This niggah...post nose
>>282462606Noooo stop slandering Karen!
>>282462720>>282462724yeah bro, japs are so weird for making cuckshit non virgins, i'm right my fellow ironic weebs? fuck this shit, all japs are cucks
>>282435598Or you could also reject the first person who asks you out and go with someone more fitting.Ergo, not being a whore and sleeping with the first guy who will slam his dick in you.
>>282462758kek this maybe get to know the person before you go out with them so you know they dont have ulterior motives instead of spreading your legs after 2 weeks
>>282462758That's unrealistic and therefore not good
>>282462781It's unrealistic to find the perfect person for you. Correct. You need to work together on a relationship. Accept each others faults and work on fixing your own faults. Not break up or divorce as soon as things go south.
>>282462796>Not break up or divorce as soon as things go south.If only people do this more often.
>>282436416>Funny how before the 1960s nobody thought thisYeah, the concept of "right person" is just a cope for fucking around.
>>282462610No, you're missing the point. I'm not disagreeing with you on that.What I'm disagreeing is that the story does not present her as that, thus it is not realistic/well written. It would have been well written if she was present as LARPing as a pure girl but while also spreading her legs by accident, but it isn't.Taking this example>>282461064>It's like going on a killing rampage as a serial killer, but also being a lovely person that believes in life, Jesus, and everyone has the right to live and no one can take this from them.The story isn't showing the killer as a LARPer or killing people by accident or the killer lying about his motivations, the story is trying to present the killer as an actual good, well behaved, nice and normal person. It just doesn't work because the persona betray the shown actions.
>>282462576>write story to teach otaku incels that there are more important things in a relationship than "having the first time" with your loved one>proceeds to make the heroine cry because she has no first times anymore to share with MC, implying the heroine herself realized the importance of sharing intimate first times with her most loved onethe message is that women can never be wrong, even if they against things they themselves said, and the only wrong is you for not accepting them and you're the only one that needs to make any kind of compromising
>>282462656I understand your point, that at least one is being honest while the other isn't. I think both are trash but I can see your point.And I agree that the sluts in a story about them having slut values makes sense, which is why the story works - which is exactly my point.A slut in a story that has tradwife values just doesn't work, which gets to a point it's so unrealistic you simply can't immerse yourself in the story anymore.
>>282462708>There can be people with warped worldviews, being raised or having problematic experiences that makes them see things and behave in certain ways that they consider normal in their minds when it's not all in reality.Exactly?>>282461064> that's unironically impossible for anyone normal, free of some kind of mental issue/block.I said that. That is still not an excuse though, since you learn from previous experiences because if you don't, the problem isn't that you didn't find the right person yet the problem is that you need an institution and if it wasn't anime world a person with such a mental issue would just cause pain to their partner.
>>282462972>No, you're missing the point. I'm not disagreeing with you on that.That's my line. Because your mentioned contradiction is an actual realistic depiction. A stupid LARPing whore, will have the whole world around her act like she's not a LARPing whore and play along with her LARP even though it makes no sense whatsoever. She is just a good, righteous person and the whore part isn't a part of this reality. And even though this whoring happens in an alternate universe while totally not being her fault, she still regrets it which amplifies her goodness 1000x times. And what she regrets is not that the guy is getting a whorish roasty, neither is it a reflection of her poor character, but that she is robbed of the opportunity to grant him her first time. Because it's not the guy who's getting fucked over, but she, who doesn't take any responsibility for her past. Pure woman moment.
>>282433334What's the point of escapism media if the girls there are whores too?
>>282463278Stop noticing things.
>>282463278but i like girls who are whores i can fix them. they can fix me
>>282463249>Pure woman moment.You're talking from the point of view of the writer, I'm talking from the point of view of the character. You're talking about the conclusion which is basically "of course this story by this woman will have the world around her act like she's not wrong" but I'm talking about the process as in "the story doesn't work EXACTLY because the girl isn't a LARP"It is, indeed, a woman moment to create a world like that, where the girl isn't really a LARPer.What I'm saying is that inside that universe, that girl isn't a LARPer, which is exactly why the story doesn't work and is unrelastic.It is realistic that a woman writer will write a story like that, but it is not a realistic story.Even your point here shows it> And even though this whoring happens in an alternate universe while totally not being her faultThat is the constructed world outside of it to justfy the story, but there is no such a thing in real life, because when it does then everyone knows you are a LARP, something the feMC there isn't.The author is a LARP, but the feMC isn't, and the story doesn't work BECAUSE the feMC isn't, not matter how the author tries to paint (distort reality) it.
>>282463249>stupid LARPing whore, will have the whole world around her act like she's not a LARPing whore and play along with hernta but that's not realistic if you larp, the whole world knows you're a larp, people don't act like the conservative family church girl from your high school that sucked everyone's dick (except yours) is a conservative family church girl, they'll act like she's a slutmen might enable her to get their dick sucked, but that still doesn't make her a conservative family church girlif you have write a story about justifying your larp, then it by itself makes it not real
>>282443953This was written by female hands trying to excuse herself for being a slut.
>>282463383>I'm talking from the point of view of the character.Ok, this is totally an ad hominen, so feel free to swear at me in return, but have you ever been around women? Like, actually interacting with them, talking, doing stuff together?
>>282433438kek going the "training GF" route is bold, but yeah, probably the most stinging to her given the circumstances
>>282433437That bunch of homeless men? All me.
>>282461799All me (and all based)
It's euro hours, I'm surprised we haven't seen more white knights defending their sluts.
>>282433334This seems such a desperate and lazy last shot to try to raise the birthrate by any means possible.>whores are not icky, guise!>look at this one, she looks cute, despite being pumped and dumped by several guys!>Please marry and reproduce!Fucking eww
>>282463544>except yoursWorst case scenario, money talks.
>mfw reading a doujin about a guy meeting his old classmate as a call girl>next chapter is NTR with MC's friend calling the callgirlit's ntr bait as MC's dark skinned friend is just there to deliver a letter from MC inviting her on a cruise ship vacation and that he paid off all her debts
>>282433334You're just not getting creative enough
>>282459942>Girl with 1 or 2 ex-bfs is the norm noweveryone's born a virgin, anon
>>282433334a real man wouldn't care about sounding like an "incel" to anyone let alone a f*malehe'd tell her that she made a mistake ruining her pair bonding by fucking every dude that passed her by because it's objectively true (which is literally the retarded premise for this dogshit propaganda series in the OP)then he'd ditch herseries like this are just wish fulfillment for whores that want to settle down>Yes sweety, you will find this guy that loves you for absolutely no reason, other than you gave him attention for 3 seconds and he will literally die for you, even though you're an STD riddled whore that is 1000000x more likely to cheat, because your brain is unironically destroyed from 100s/1000s of casual sexual encounters, and you will never truly love him the way he does you because you turned the most intimate part of relationships into a simple transaction!this is the complete opposite of the "manic pixy dream girl" for foids except worse, because unlike romcom/harem shit the girl is a genuine piece of trash, whereas most romcom/harem MCs are just actual blank canvases with no personality, mobs that have done nothing good or badand the worst thing?niggas irl ARE actually that desperate for their first pussy that gives them attentionit's like oneitis taken to the extreme>>282433414we're getting NTR adaptations now too because the country is capitulating hard to the west's propagandagive it 5-10 years and I guarantee we'll be seeing BLACKED in a mainstream animeand no, I'm not shitposting herethe situation is that fucking direwe're getting dozens of NTR manga adaptations now from LNs/eromanga/visual novelsit's only a matter of time until one of them gets an anime that airs on national TVthen it's only a matter of time until interracial NTR follows it>>282464743because that's exactly what it is>erm we know we emulated the west's horrific dating and slut cultures but pwease have babies with dem pweeease ;'(
>>282463956I can see you completely missed any kind of point I'm trying to make, and you bringing real life like this just proves my point simply because I'm not denying how reality is and you're struggling to understand that.It's even ironic you make a post like this, because I already said I agree with you on your point about how things are in reality.
>>282460712>>282462367>she isn't a heckin' slutterino because she was le taken advantage of!!!>SHE DIDN'T KNOW THAT SHE SHOULD *NOT* SLURP AND RIDE ON 1,863 COCKS, OKAY?!?!?!?!why are normaltroons like this?of all the times for normaltroon anime tourists to cry out "suspension of disbelief" now is the time>>282461064at least this anon gets it>is raised in modern society>100% has at least one parent in her life if she is going to school>has friends, is popular>...>somehow has had zero idea about purity and saving oneself and also never told to not just give up her pussy to every man that entered her life and asked for her slit>not a single other friend, family member of even TV/media instilled even a notion of this in her brain>proceeds to fuck literally hundreds of dudes up until meeting the cuckold MC she settles down withthere's only so much that "ignorance" can be explained away withand it does NOT work here, at allkeiken zumi is arguably one of the most egregious out of the more recent and popular slut propaganda series for these reasons
>>282465572You're a dumbass for thinking >>282462367 wasn't a blindingly obvious shitpost
>>282465644the point still stands brownie
>>282465572I'm pretty sure >>282462367 was being sarcastic Pretty obvious
>>282465705>>282465695
>>282465146>>282465572Dude I just don't like sloppy seconds. I don't have the time or energy to write a schizo wall of test about something I don't care about.
>>282445347>I'll never love you the sameHow romantic
>>282465743oh no, the newfag is getting mad
>>282465537I see your point.Let me condense mine, because this is going nowhere:The depiction of the whole situation is good because it is based on something, that actually happens in our reality. She believes in the shit she does until she doesn't. It's just due to <insert excuse>.
>>282465916oh nothe brownie larper is retarded and doesn't realize there was more than one post in that quoteoof ouchies
>>282465757you have enough time to ESLbabble and respond apparentlybut yessluts bad and troons and foids cope about that trvth
>>282464804>SpoilerYou can't just drop that and not even share the name anon.
>>282433334Pretend not to care about her past, fuck her a few times and once you get bored, slowly start ghosting her until she decides to ghost you.
>>282465572>>is raised in modern society>>100% has at least one parent in her life if she is going to school>>has friends, is popular>>...>>somehow has had zero idea about purity and saving oneself and also never told to not just give up her pussy to every man that entered her life and asked for her slit>>not a single other friend, family member of even TV/media instilled even a notion of this in her brain>>proceeds to fuck literally hundreds of dudes up until meeting the cuckold MC she settles down withFucking thisYou post like a schizo but this is completely right, it doesn't make any sense in a narrative wayIf she HAS the core values she says she has, she doesn't practice it.And nobody, including the people or the society around her that gave her those core values she believes in, has ever pointed out to her that she is doing wrong and not following her core values.And after experiencing the results of her actions not conforming to what she expected based on her core values, she learns nothing and keeps doing it.Until she finally finds MCboi and from him, now for some reason, she recalls the core values she always had. And it's not like she was reflecting on it and MC helped her find her way, on their first date ever (you can watch the first episode) she was already taking her clothes to have sex with him >>282448771It makes no sense. I have no problems about stories with sluts or used goods, but this one makes no sense.
>>282466154>It makes no sense.It absolutely does. Literally the protestants in US.
>>282466069but it's ntr bait....it's literally called I met my previous classmate and she's a call girl or something
>>282466154which is exactly why it can be simply explained away with what this anon >>282464743 saidthis series, like all the other slut ones, are just propagandaof course normalnigger hives like MAL and reddit still give it a damn near 7/10, even though any other series with such blatantly dogshit writing and shitting all over "muh suspension of disbelief" would be GUTTED to a 3/10 at bestthis is a perfect example of a series that disrespects the viewer
>>282465979No anon, the WRITER believes in the shit she does. The character simply IS.The WRITER believes it's fine and realistic because the character she's writing "was actually pure all along so it's fine" which is real woman behaviour that I agree with you, but the character herself inside the story IS PURE which is not real.And that's what I'm saying, the story isn't real and doesn't work because the way the character is simply isn't real. She's not a character that THINKS she's pure and the world warps itself around her to justify that so it's fine and allows all the excuses that comes with it, she is a character that is pure. That doesn't happen, that doesn't exist, it's basically saying "pure sluts" exist.In our reality you will not find someone that IS pure but does what she did unless they got some really extreme rare case like got sold to slavery or sex trafficking.
>>282457318you might be autistic
>>282456062because sluts can't pair bondsorrybut that's the truth of casual sex flingsalso high risk of STDswhat is the point of "getting with a 10/10" if my dick is going to rot off, she'll never actually love you the same way you do to her because she's the product of sex addiction, and the risk of being cheated on is way higher too?there's no such thing as a loyal whore
>>282466281I've met many protestants, both mainline and evangelical and they're not like thisI've met some wild ones, but they still had a decent graps of right or wrong related to their actions
>>282466658I know former (and some still current) party animal girls from my school days that would be taken aback by "haha yeah I just said yes to every guy at school who said 'wanna fuck bb' loool"even real life hoes know this behavior is odd
>>282466868Oh you're talking about that side of the things, yeah true, absolutely.
>>282433334would depend on the question if I believe her or not, for which I'd have to know her.
haha, yah>looks down while clenching my fists as tears start falling out of my eyes
>>282433334I've had sex before its not that fuckin serious
>>282445347it might be sweet in fiction, but in reality an inexperienced man with an experienced woman is a terrible pairing that will only end in misery for both sides.
>>282433425Our first remarriage then
>>282459419>Even the butt?Not even rimming.
>>282435180yeah, but plenty of people ruined their first time and now want to encourage you to do the same, so they don't feel like the only fool in the group.the majority of people are crabs in a bucket trying to sabotage you.
>>282467070If you listen to this website you'll never ruin your first time because you'll never have it to begin with.
How come it's only losers who are obsessed over purity? You never see respectful intelligent and powerful man do that stuff.
>>282462360All of this is a cope, women always win in the end somehow, don't even hope for it being different this time
>>282463278Even in my escapism a need a little bit of realism.
>>282445347>phonenegro is a subhuman retard with no standardsof course>>282466957it isn't even sweet in fiction, it's the most blatant wish fulfillment ever and the absolute worst kind of wish fulfillmentpeople clown on isekai harem shit all the time but that "wish fulfillment" is actually wholesome for the most part:>I want to take care of this woman/these women and have a happy family with them and beat up all the bad guys that come our way by becoming overpowered!compared to slut series:>I want squire-less-than-charming to take care of me after I lived an objectively bad life up to this point and take zero responsibility for it!isekai harem shit actually has the dude work on himself, even if it is easyslutslop there is -zero- effort whatsoever from the woman, it's once again just the dude doing everything and patting her on the backthat's literally what happened in Higehiro too>ohhhh you poor little prostitute, so heckin' wholesomerino you dindu nuffin wrong!sickening
>>282467093I did though, and it was a mistake and I shouldn't have listened to the people who encouraged me to just throw my first time away as quickly as possible.
>>282433334Even her first time anal?!!Threesome? Foursome? Orgy? Pegging? MMF?
>>282467113>it's the most blatant wish fulfillment ever and the absolute worst kind of wish fulfillmentfemale wish fulfillment is pretty much always shit and a horrible deal for the guy>male wish fulfillment>guy gets a harem through little effort of his own>but then dedicates almost every single waking second on trying to ensure all of them are happy>female wish fulfillment>she's a bad deal>some guy way out of her league has to suck it up at his expense
>>282467070>the majority of people are crabs in a bucket trying to sabotage youCorrect. I even think that sexual purity is the best example of it,
>>282467113>>282467163should have read your whole post first since you already said it all
>>282460381Slut despair makes me sad :(
>>282466957Worked out crazy damn well for Mohammed
>>282467163>>282467193that's fine, I always welcome more eloquent and concise versions of my posts
>>282467175LMAO, wish it would really end like this, I dont understand how people are reading/watching this garbage 'how to be an onlyfans thot simp'
>>282461049Because beggars aren't choosers. Good look finding a virgin.
>>282467237MOAR
>>282467187well, nta but sexual purity for women has been a thing for thousands and thousands of years, in multiple, different countries and societies around the world
>>282467237>oh noes the only thing im worthy for...!!! I'll now cry because im such a slut lmao!
>>282467096Because you're a loser who only knows other losers.It's gunny though how some great men like Napoleon were literal cucks.
>>282467302That's only if you're desperate for sex
>>282467187Back in the good old days we used to pick a virgin girl from the tribe for sacrifice simply because being a virgin girl already gave her value above others.
>>282433334Disgusting whore.
>>282465146>>282467113>>282467193Female wish fulfillment is a psychopath Chad who puts her in her place, not a kind and gentle beta cuck who will accept her after she wants to settle down. That already happens in real life, she doesn’t need a fantasy for that. That manga is made for males with a slut fetish.
>>282459785It does seems like everyone in /a/ is a little girl, or at least they share the same views on love.
>>282454097Our biolodgy isn't going to change. The only way to change is by reducing female "independence" (dependence on institutions) and raising the status of men in society back up to what it was. Also raising the prestige associated with being a mother and wife.
>>282467276I actually liked yours better since it pointed out the most crucial part of female wish fulfillment more specifically - the fact that the femMC never has to improve herself or do penance for anything she didit's not about the guy or wealth or job or whatever else she gets, it's about being a bad person and getting away with it.
>>282467237What was the name of the manga, where one guy musters up courage & asks the school slut to bang and she agrees? The things I vaguely remember about it:>the first time they did it in a love hotel>school slut had a sisters in student council who's a slut undercover and she had a 3-some with the MC>MC later bangs a childhood friend underclassman, who's a sports tomboy>the school playboy seethes in a comedic fashion about MC banging someone he couldn't (I think it was the student council chick, probably, but not sure)>the overreaching story is that MC kind of actually likes the slut, but never confesses
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>>282459785I’m a purityfag, but only IRL. The ones here are aggressive even with the 2D ones, even though they were so common in anime. Must be zoomer brain damage from microplastics.
>>282467389you're right but I think that goes more into the "female fantasy", while the other anons were right about the "female wish fulfillment" in the sense of this discussionyeah, woman want psycho chad that puts her in her place but she can fix him, but ultimately she still wants to find the guy that takes care of her after she does all what she want to do in life
>>282467394Have you been talking to a lot of little girls about love recently?
>>282467389>Female wish fulfillment is a psychopath Chad who puts her in her place, not a kind and gentle beta cuck who will accept her after she wants to settle down.anon that is literally every single modern woman's life if she has lived around anywhere remotely populated and poisoned by dating appsthey aren't mutually exclusive>fuck a ton of 8-10 guys that'll never marry her, but who use her as quick relief since they know they have that pull>cry about being a forever sex-friend of a guy out of their league, or now as new age faggots say, cry about being in a "situationship" with him>once their 30s set in they pray they can settle for some <8 dude who will look after her, bonus points if she has another man's kids, making him a literal cuckold at that pointbasically>I get to act as badly as I want AND be rewarded in in the end after doing nothing to improve myself? FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YEShow the fuck is this NOT wish fulfillment when it's put in media?it just reinforces their worldviews and justifies their behavior>>282467557exactlybut the authors don't have the balls to have the guy drop herhell, they don't even have the balls to have them get together but then show something like her teaching her daughter to not be a slut like she wasthis is not even relegated to Japanese media either lmfao>>282467697I'm aggressive because it's legit some of the worst writing possible but it gets a pass from normalniggers because "haha epic incel owned reddit style!" tier posting spawns from itlike I said isekai harem shit has a worse reputation despite the characters still at least trying, even if barelyslutslop is just self-cunnilingus for whores and their simps
>>282467697It's purityGOD for you. 2d sluts are boring.
>>282467789>>once their 30s set in they pray they can settle for some <8 dude who will look after her, bonus points if she has another man's kids, making him a literal cuckold at that pointDon't forget the classic>makes a tiktok video exposing to the whole world how unhinged she is>claims every single man is bad, even though she's in that situation as a single mother with two kids because of her own decisions>and then ends saying that only real man would take her and her kids, anyone that disagrees or rejects her are not real man>gets millions of views both from women in the same situation and the rest of the people laughing at her
>>282467575The last arc I've red was about how MC was too horny due to abstinence, and couldn't study for his test properly so he failed. The student council girl is now giving him private lessons and the playboy guy joined them as well uninvited because he wants to bang the girl
>>282467942>a real man would never x, y or z>t. some retarded womanThat's my favorite.
>>282465146The surge in NTR doujinshi and manga getting made/translated lately is awful
>>282463278god bless Tamagoro, may he publish many more lucy doujins
>>282467113>harem shit>wholesomeLMAO
>>282467789>like I said isekai harem shit has a worse reputation despite the characters still at least trying, even if barelyDecided to check>isekai smartphone>isekaislop bottom of the barrel>MC gets harem, gets stronger, fights and protects them, becomes a duke or king, has kids with the girls, has a good and loving happy life with his family>this is bad>OP's anime>girl quite literally has sex with multiple men>learns nothing from it, doesn't change even when meeting the MC which she met by luck>only change comes from hitting the jackpot of the guy accepting all of her>no self-improvement and no accountability, just rewarded>ranked higher than the previous exampleHuh, that's quite funny.
>>282433479Well if in such a "good catch" then surely I have more options than some random through whore?The fact of the matter is that marriage is retarded whether the wife is a pure virgin or a demonic slut. Theres literally no upside to being married vs just having a gf. Its all for show anyways. Its a ritual for the woman so she can show her friends and family the man she caught. Shes got your balls in a vice forever for free. She doesnt have to be faithful, treat you right or literally anything. Being married is the ultimate cuck move and wondering if your sweetie has merely had 5 dicks inside her or 50 is merely cuck bargaining, as if it makes it better that she had merely only five other men cum inside her.
>>282468156>>no self-improvement and no accountability, just rewardedevery woman's ultimate dream
>>282465146>>282468038NTR is just a fetish to degrade women into being degenerate sluts who fuck even animals and ugly things. They don’t give a single fuck about the story, the girl’s story, the bad guy’s story, what’s happening. The only thing that matters is that the art is hot and the girl is a depraved slut. Imagine considering one of the oldest and most common fetishes in Japan a westoid psyop. This just proves that this board is infested with tourists
>>282468156They are both trash at the end of the day, don't try to justify isekaislop just because it suits your fancy.
>>282467575>>282467944Daredemo Kimi ga suki something you'll find it
>>282468038doujinshi was one thingmanga adaptations of them + ultra trashy cuckold LNs is very worrisomenow they are testing the waters with series of dudes fucking wives and the heckin' wholesomerino slut propaganda series getting anime adaptationsthe first outspoken NTR """""romance""""" series getting an anime adaptation is coming soon I can just feel it, and I mean one advertised as such like DareDake did (and that one is the most likely candidate, all things considered)>ZOMG, romance starting from NTR?!?!>holy heck, this is so chungus 100 wholesome and fresh!>>282468111nice reading comprehension there Pedro>>282468156exactlynormalniggers eat up slutslop but shit all over isekai/iseaki harem shit because they're all effeminate losers>>282468220the psyop isn't NTR itselfit's that it's going to progress into BLACKED cancer at some point which is unironic propaganda
>>282455383>being alone is better than being in a shitty relationshipseems to be a hard concept for a lot of people
>>282468257>mfw the author backtracks because he wants MC to be a manslutLOL
>>282468251?I'm not, I was just trying to confirm anon's claim that trash isekaislop still has worse reputation for some reason even though both are garbage wish fulfillment stories (with different conclusions for their message) and it was true.
>>282468156>no self-improvementShe improves throughout the anime, that's the reason she decided to wait until marriage with her new boyfriend.And don't give me that shit about self-improvement in isekai, accidentally killing some boss monster with their cheat powers and gaining 500 levels is not "self improvement" of any way. There's shit like isekai smartphone and then there's good shit like Nigoru Hitomi where MC actually improves and uses his wits to win, it's a world of difference.
>>282468336>She improves throughout the anime, that's the reason she decided to wait until marriage with her new boyfriend....that's not improvement.But it's such a sad argument at the same time, it's a bit draining.
>>282468336No one ever said anything about self-improvement in isekai though?
>>282468111Negima and Love Hina are wholesome harem anime, because he is only serious about his destined waifu in each series.
>>282468336>that's the reason she decided to wait until marriage with her new boyfriend.lmao the MC literally got both the downsides of dating a pure girl and a slut.
>>282468257Bingo! Thanks a bunch, anon-kun!Searched two manga sites for it, one had it's name in english, the other only had chinese translation, for some reason, so it got filtered out.
>>282468336a slut not having sex with mc is a horrible development and deal for the man. It also reflects the irl scenario when women slut it up and "just have fun" prior to the current guy who they make jump through hoops for the thing they gave away for nothing previously. It's damn near evil really
>>282468336improvement would have been her accepting she was a slut, but learning that sex can have real love and intimacy behind it, and using her experience to guide and give (and take) pleasure to her significant other, while learning that he is someone that loves her for more than just sex - so she changes because of thatit would have been understandable if it was something like>protected sex only because I only want to have kids after we finish college and have a good life to raise thembut completely removing the sex there isnt improvement, it's basically punishment for both characters but mostly for him, since she just gets away with it anyway
>>282468472people see harem the same way you see used goods. better not even waste your time being a hypocrite and justifying it since you already know how it works when you have a closed normalfag mind.
Has watching or reading any Japanese romance series actually emboldened you to speak to or sympathize with women irl? Or do people view this trend in whore girls as an unwelcome intrusion of the dismal reality that most modern dating-age women are now used-up whores like it's the norm?
>>282468472no. fuck Naru, fuck her shittier clone, fuck Ken, and fuck you
>>282468336How is that an improvement?When she FINALLY found someone that REALLY loves her, NOW they can't have sex anymore?What is this? Like anon said, the worst of the worlds>is a slut, so she slept with everyone except you>but also is pure, so when it's your turn now you have to wait and jerk off until marriage?
>story about a loser neet trying to change his hikikomori ways in order to find love and happiness>kino>story about a slut trying to change her promiscuous ways in order to find love and happiness>cuck propagandaI'm not saying OP's is a good example of it, but God some of you get really sensitive about slutiness instead of treating it as it is, a mere character trait
>>282468650At least he can jerk off with the stories she tells him about all her previous experiences.
>>282468336Okay, so we're all in agreement here that slutmaxxing is bad actually if waiting for marriage is considered self-improvement. Why are we supposed to ignore a person's body count again if a high body count is bad again?
>>282468336>She improves throughout the anime, that's the reason she decided to wait until marriage with her new boyfriend.that isn't self improvement lmfao the fuck?she's just blueballing a guy that shouldn't be wasting his time with hershe's just continuing her bad behavior>n-no your isekai is shit, mine is better because it has wordswordswords and depression and tragedy and and and and and the MC isn't THAT OP, OKAY!?!?! HE JUST HECKIN' OUTSMARTS EVERYONE ELSE BECAUSE THEY'RE RETARDS AND HE'S 3000000000 IQ LIKE ME!Jeeeeeesus Christ mangrow the fuck up, you're consuming ropes of turds with gold paint on them like everyone else with that seriesdon't kid yourselfanyway, the original point was that even with isekai being slop the males still at least put in SOME effort into the relationships with the girls, whereas slutslop the girl does NOTHING and the guy does EVERYTHING and she is rewarded in the endand no, fake "tradwife" tier bullshit after riding the cock carousel does NOT count as "improving" KEKread, nigger! read!
>>282468680mostly because the latter tries to whitewash its problems and often requires some dumb bastard getting an extremely bad deal in the process. Also men and women have different standards, which is obvious to anybody who has ever lived
>>282468680I think most of the arguments used here are that most of these kind of slut stories she does not try to change her ways, she simply lucks out finding the right guy that accept her slut ways (and sometimes she'll decide to change because of that) and just gets away with it as >she wasn't wrong in her actions, the other people that are bad
>>282468836>bad deal = i will not poop a blood flesh filled with smegma piss and bloodwow, his life is over>>282468873It's fucking 2D. You just want her to have a 3DPD mentality so you can feel better about telling her to kill herself, because you would feel bad if she were a good girl who genuinely made bad decisions and not a random 3D whore.
>>282468836>the latter tries to whitewash its problemsDon't take bad examples as the undisputed norm. Pretend that this hypothetical story doesn't.>some dumb bastard getting an extremely bad dealSo that means that she isn't allowed redemption? That she must be a slut for the rest of her life?
>>282468336>she improved because she stopped sleeping around and is now saving herself for marriageThat's a self-report against the argument, no? It's impying that being a slut is bad and that saving yourself for marriage is a good thing, no?
I have met and hung around many loose women at parties and social gatherings, and since I am not particularly attractive they tend to speak more honestly to me than guys they actually want to bang. And through this you find out various interesting things that they don't even bother to share normally. All of this is basically to say, sluts do act different when they don't put you on their fuck radar, and may even get bashful if they develop romantic feelings for you, before having sexual feelings for you. Brain chemistry is fucked up.
>>282468829>anyway, the original point was that even with isekai being slop the males still at least put in SOME effort into the relationships with the girlsNo not really, they just throw themselves at him for being OP and nice, don't kid yourself anon your isekai is bottom of the barrel wish fulfillment trash, on the same level with the redeemed sluts.
>>282468967>It's fucking 2DThat makes no sense, you're are the one that brought how people feel about it, people just explained to you why>wow you guys really care about x>people care because of y>wow why do you care???
>>282469001>develop romantic feelings for you, before having sexual feelings
>>282468982>So that means that she isn't allowed redemption? That she must be a slut for the rest of her life?No one ever said this, you completely misunderstood.
>>282468763you aren't supposed to ignore itno matter whatno matter how much browbeating you get from simps and whoreshigh body count = a whole laundry list of issues already mentioned itt multiple times (STDs, very prone to cheating, no pair bonding, etc.)realizing your fuck ups isn't self-improvementnor is denying sex to the guy you settled forthat guy is just a dumbass at least this >>282468557 anon wrote a scenario that would have been possible to call self-improvementcombine it with what I said earlier about her advising her daughters not to be sluts and then it'd actually be good>>282468680because it is propagandaevery slutslop series the girl doesn't "change" anything about herselfshe gets a good deal while the MC gets the worst deal possible, but since she is the MC's first ever pussy after being an untouchable loser, he never lets her gothat's it
>>282469048>n-nuh uh no u!concession acceptedglad we came to the agreement that all isekai including your beloved pseudbait trash is approximately as shitty as slutslop!
>>282469078It's happened, it's not very common though. It can be extremely annoying if she has the reputation of banging everybody but when presented with the option of a genuine relationship all of a sudden they feel like they have to be chaste or take things slowly. Like I said, brain chemistry is fucked, it makes people act retarded
>>282469106But even if she changes her ways and settles with one guy, this guy is getting "an extremely bad deal" according to that anon.
>>282469144Sounds like she recognizes someone as a good provider and a ticket to an easy life but she's not attracted sexually to them. Of course they would spin it as romantic love vs sexual love or whatever retardation they can come up with
>>282469185No, I'm sure what anon meant is that in those stories the one that has to carry that cross is usually the guy, while at the same time the girl reduces her "sluttiness" so they guy even gets less sex because of that.
>>282468650>>282468829You can't be all "sex is sacred" you need to stop being a slut and then when she internalizes that get mad that she thinks sex is sacred and she doesn't want to be
>>282469111>but since she is the MC's first ever pussy after being an untouchable loser, he never lets her goThat's actually not bad development if it's handled correctly. Like showing how the MC is distraught at first but he decides to stay with her because he thinks he won't be able to do any better. I mean of course it's not the best love story ever told, but at least is coherent and realistic.I think there is a place for sluts in "romantic" stories, you just can't pass it off as your typical romcom because, like in OP's example, it looks ridiculous.
>>282468982>So that means that she isn't allowed redemption? name one slutslop series where this actually happensand I mean ACTUALLY happens, AKA renouncing her sluttiness and warning others against itthat is ACTUAL redemptionyou know, kinda like villains that stopped killing and atone for the rest of their lives by saving others, stopping wars, etc.?hopping off the cock carousel is not redemption, at all>yes I only smoked THREE cigarettes today instead of four, redeemed!!11!!come onI'll wait>That she must be a slut for the rest of her life?after a certain point, yeah?pair bonding can be basically permanently destroyed after just a handful of cocksfemale wish fulfillment series like these love to ignore it thoughit would actually be refreshing if one of these series just had the girl relapse into cocklust and tell the guy to find someone else better for him and dump himbut instead they get the:>"oohhhh you heckin' wholesome slut slutty slutterino, you did no wrong, oh my sweet angel cinnamon roll why yes, I'll unconditionally love you forever because no other woman paid attention to me!">"now let me be the textbook definition of a cuckold and look after another man's children for you my sweet, unsinning princess :)"ick
>>282469202I'm pretty much convinced most of what women do or say is rehearsed, they have literally memorized or trained themselves to say things, and all of their interactions are like an internal LLM stitching together a guesstimate the contextually appropriate words and phrases.
>>282469144>lies to you and conditions you into a back-up plankek
>>282469347Anon, I think you're missing the point that that's the point of view of the girl.In this series, she's the one that thinks sex is a love ritual related to building a happy family >>282443953She had sexwith every guy she met BECAUSE she's a """pure slut""" that thought they were interested in building a happy family with her, and that was her dream.
>>282469138>glad we came to the agreement that all isekai including your beloved pseudbait trash is approximately as shitty as slutslop!Yes? You were saying isekai is still better because *completely made up stupid reasons*. Nothing I dislike more than hypocrites who think their own farts smell so much better than others.Glad we're ending on agreement then.
>>282469261>reduces her "sluttiness" so they guy even gets less sex because of that.Reducing slutiness means that she doesn't want to have sex with many guys, not that she's lost her libido entirely. Even if a girl takes part in every fetish imaginable she won't be a slut if she does it with only one guy.
>>282469368Most of what women say about themselves are half-truths and most of what they say about anything else is projection
>>282469347no one said anything about sex being sacred anon, the whole argument was that it would have been an improvement if she learned what sex really means for a couple truly in love, but she doesn't and instead make it about an ideal (just like the ideal she already had but now with the pendulum swinging all the way to the other side), so it's not an improvement
>>282469463>no one said anything about sex being sacred anonIf you are Christian it is. as it's a part of marriage sacrament.
>>282469437But it's still less, thus a bad deal since the guy is carrying that cross alone but is getting nothing from both sides (the pure side and the slut side)
>>282469365>name one slutslop series where this actually happensAlas I don't know any. But it would be good it it existed>pair bonding can be basically permanently destroyed after just a handful of cocksJust out of curiosity, according to you, how many different cocks a girl can take before being considered "beyond redemption"
>>282469529I meant ITT
>>282469347no one said that niggerand sex IS sacred, but that doesn't mean >"um sweety, you get NO sex even though I think I love you">>282469354realistic does not mean it's good writing or coherent eitheryou even recognize the passing off/ignoring suspension of disbelief is badyou need to strike a balance between the ideal and practical, the unrealistic and the realisticsluts COULD be redeemed in these stories, but I have yet to see one of these circlejerked manga or LNs do it>>282469419I said isekai harem shit is better than slutslop in terms of romance because the guys actually do put in effort into the relationships>b-b-but he was just handed itand?same deal with slutslopbut the main difference: the sluts NEVER do anythingthe guy she snatched ends up re-affirming all of her terrible life choices and "pardoning her of sin", so to speakeverysingletimeas I said earlier, they all devolve into>"yes my darling queen, you aren't at fault for hopping on miles of dickmeat before you met me, I accepted your everything!"it is the most self-affirming, masturbatory wish fulfillment out thereit's legit the meme about female vs male self help books personified LOL, where the former is just women shlicking each other offslutslop manga/stories are basically just another form of female self help books, it's just really roundabout
>>282469411That's not really the same thing as what I said.
>>282469566Satan, chill. This thread is confusing with how IRL discussion intertwines with the plot of the story at times.
>>282469587>but the main difference: the sluts NEVER do anythingNeither does the isekai MC.I could tell you what the slut does, how her behavior changes in the anime with her classmates or random strangers, but you'll just say "nah it doesn't count" because it's really on the same level of effort as it is for isekai smartphone guy to kill a monster and have a sex slave fall into his lap.They are the same, you are biased and a hypocrite.
>>282469636the point is that the whole series is about how she had sex with everyone because she believed that would lead her to building the happy family of her dreams, only to get pumped and dumpedand when she finally found someone that was willing to build a family with her, she stopped having sex because now that's badthat is not an improvement, as anon said that's basically a self report going against the original message
>>282469699Well why did she suddenly change huh?
>>282469661>They are the sameNTA but wasn't the original argument that even though both are same (slop) for some reason the slut one is viewed better? I don't think anon was saying that isekai is better.
>>282469556>Alas I don't know any. But it would be good it it existedsame here>Just out of curiosity, according to you, how many different cocks a girl can take before being considered "beyond redemption"it varies between girls, but I'd say past a few is already chancing fateand this is for girls being in actual romantic relationships, mind youfact is that if you have more than a few romantic partners past high school you definitely have personality issues if the break up reasons aren't reasonable on both sides, like one person just having to move somewhere else for some unexpected reason (family, etc.)but anywaysurely you know of at least a couple people that have been through new boyfriends/girlfriends yearly, if not faster, and they are just simply awful people to be aroundpeople who have casual sex regularly through hookups though?that is conclusively past the point of redemptionyou pretty much can't return once sex becomes a commodity for you in your brain, "you're cooked" as the little fags these days say
>>282469532Reread my post again anon, I'm saying the girl can fuck her bf 5 times a week if she wants to, how is that "less"?
>>282469765Great question, that goes against the moral of the story here.Basically >>282468983
>>282469795You answered it.If SHE wants to.See how the balance of power here is not the same? Also, I said "same" and not that it should go all the way to the other side.
>>282469870Well if your gf doesn't want to have sex with you then just fucking dump her, but that's regardless of her being a slut or not.
>>282469699>she stopped having sex because now that's bad>she is saving for the marriage that, what she lost long time agokek, it's so dumb i'll refer to it as a comedy manga from now on
>>282468472Harems are just giant NTRfests where the girls are forced to accept it because the target audience of readers is too greedy and narcissistic to think they should have to settle for only one girl.
>>282469906Exactly, pretty much.The bad deal isn't only about the sex, as I have said in my post is about having to carry the cross too.You don't really have that huge of a cross to carry if she wasn't a slut, but you do, and you're still below her in terms of "power" if I'm allowed to use this word. As you implied, you have no call in this except calling it off.
>>282469906>just fucking dump herMarriage laws are fucking bullshit. You should be able to beat the shit out of the woman if she just straight up starts fucking with you, without going to jail.
>>282469661>neither does the isekai MCprotecting his women and caring for them + his offspring is doing something retardnot having a cock in your pussy for 5 minutes =/= "redemption" either you mongoloid>w-well I could tell you but you'll just dismiss what I saycorrection: you CANNOT tell me because you know I'm right, and I already perfectly summarized 110% of slutslop "writing" here >>282469587 in these two lines:>the guy she snatched ends up re-affirming all of her terrible life choices and "pardoning her of sin", so to speak>"yes my darling queen, you aren't at fault for hopping on miles of dickmeat before you met me, I accepted your everything!"also becauseagainno slutslop series has done proper redemption like I said earlier with this:>you know, kinda like villains that stopped killing and atone for the rest of their lives by saving others, stopping wars, etc.?where are the sluts openly admonishing themselves for being whores? and no, going "boohoohoo I can't enjoy this date because my pussy is too loose" like keikenzumi does does NOT count since she only cared about herself there and not the shit she put others through, typical female egomania shitwhere are they advising other women, or their offspring with the cuckold MC, to not make the same mistakes they did?ohthat's rightnowhere!because these series are just masturbatory "you can do nothing wrong kweens! get your cuckman who forgives you and looks after your kids with other men today!" nonsensecope?cope
>>282469811Sounds more like it's making a statement against the girl's belief that having sex is a ritual that leads to a happy family. You can't just take it as a blanket statement against sluts in general when there are many different reasons. It's like having a story where a murder is condemned and then going "this story said killing is bad so that means it must including killing in self defense too".The story doesn't sound like it says anything about girls who have sex for fun. Just the naivety of a girl who thinks it's what you said she thinks it is
>>282433334I think the problem with this story is that it presents things that are negative and sad as positive and wholesome. I think you could make something good out of it if you tweaked the psychology of the characters and the way things are presented, without changing any of their decisions or the development of the plot.
>>282469948multi use keys goodlocks that open for anything badthis is the trvth...
>>282469948It's okay because girls run under pre-selection meaning they actually want to be "ntr’d"
>>282470024>You can't just take it as a blanket statement against sluts in general when there are many different reasons.No one is doing that, the original discussion from this whole quote-chain started with a point related to this series since anon here >>282468336 specifically said>She improves throughout the anime, that's the reason she decided to wait until marriage with her new boyfriend.And people started discussing how that is not an improvement.
>>282470084nah bromisinterpreting valuing purity and fucking over your new man = improvementyou 4chuds just got heckin' owned!
>>282470066>>282470067You're just tasteless plebs who judge media solely by how shamelessly it panders to you.
>>282469948>where the girls are forced to accept it>for only one girlI get your point but there are reverse harems too, it's the same thing and not exclusive to one boy many girls, women also have their one girl many boys harem stories
>>282470084How is shedding her silly and ridiculous idea about sex not an improvement though? I mean I still haven't gotten an answer about where she got the idea that she should wait for marriage.My point is that it probably came from the guy in question, but I'm waiting until I get an awer before I say anything.
>>282469975But in the hypothetical scenario in which a slut, for whatever reason, wants to quit her slutty ways and only have sex with (you), and I mean lots of steamy romantic sex, would that be acceptable to you?
>>282470051>I think you could make something good out of itYou can't. It's fucked.To elaborate, the premise is dumb.>a girl that wants to create a happy family goes on a dick carousel because ???Nobody knows why. Neither the audience, nor the writer, because it's fucking stupid.
>>282470131bro we are currently living in a society where women are "hareming" themselves because sharing chad is better than having dnd playing timmy all to themselves
>>282470192>currently If by currently you mean always since the beginning of time
>>282470155>How is shedding her silly and ridiculous idea about sex not an improvement though?I'll just quote other people because I'm tired of saying the same thing >>282468557>>282469463>>282461064
>>282470220the current matters here because this is the freest and most options women have ever had and look at what they're still choosing to do
>>282470155>I mean I still haven't gotten an answer about where she got the idea that she should wait for marriage.That's literally in the series >>282446738
>>282470167You still have her cross to carry, you're just getting sex now and this isn't even about the romance anymore.
>>282470192>living in a societyExactly, so for everyone to be happy and get along, each men gets someone to fuck.No imagine women only fuck 1% of men & then 99% of sexually frustrated men get together and start murdering and raping everyone.While example is exaggerated, it's not far-fetched in the slightest & is one of the reason why marriage and sexual purity is so beneficial to society among others things.
>>282470155>I mean I still haven't gotten an answer about where she got the idea that she should wait for marriage.>My point is that it probably came from the guy in question, but I'm waiting until I get an awer before I say anything.see >>282443953it comes from her core familial values of wanting a family, but now that she found the right guy the right thing to do is save herself for marriage (as implied by the previous post)
>>282470289I'm asking why did she change her thinking on sex why can't anyone answer this? Why does she suddenly want to wait for marriage? What caused her to change?
>>282470131>hey be badass and care for the girls around you and your family>""""""""""""""""pandering""""""""""""""""ermmm no>spread your legs for every man in your life and get a loyal cuck hubby who looks after their kids for you, you deserve it that is tho
>>282470368>save herself for marriageSave what?If you have no hymen there's nothing to save. Like, c'mon.
>>282470317>you're just getting sex now and this isn't even about the romance anymoreConsider that you like girl beyond her body. That you like her personality, enjoy spending time with her and such. Would that make the "cross" more bearable?
>>282468629Yeah, no. I have sympathy and emotions towards anime characters. IRL women can, by and large, suck my left nut. I don't care if they're virgins or not.>>282468680So is BPD simpry a character trait to you too? Or is it an issue that hosts other problems? Talk about grasping at straws...>>282469078that's how a lot of women work anon>>282469368that's how a lot of people work, anon
>>282470423it's not surprising to me that f*males and their simps don't even know what the fuck that phrase means lmfaohilarious seeing him try to get one up on all these anons too, despite that
Surprisingly, it was an okay thread. Good talk.
>>282470368But who told her that is the right thing to do? She thought all the other guys were the right guy too right? That's how she was tricked right? What makes this guy "different" that her thinking changed into "let's wait for marriage"? How did that ide get implanted in her suddenly when it came to this guy and not the others? I'm starting to think I won't get an answer but I'm still willing to bet it's because the guy, as is usual in these stories, told her >"N-no w-what are you doing!? We c-cant have sex! T-That's something you should only do with someone in a long committed relationship! It's special!" In which case it wouldnt make sense for him to then get mad that shes following what he said. If you want to fuck then fuck, you can't say you don't want to and then get mad later.
>>282470462> Or is it an issue that hosts other problems?How does that contradict it being a character trait? Of course characters are flawed, stories are about them trying, and sometimes even failing, to correct them
>>282470456If we're trying to argue about it being "bearable" then by itself it's implied it's below the normal values of the deal
>>282470391Just because the MC slayed a dragon before having an orgy with his harem doesn't make it any less wish fulfillment garbage
>>282470564I understand what you mean by saying >it was the guyBut if it was think how retarded the author would be to make the guy, in a series made to teach guys to not expect girls to save themselves for marriage, to ask the girl to save herself for marriage
>>282470606slaying a dragon is the kind of thing that would get a man a harem though
>>282470388She learned that sex is actually special
>>282470606it's way less wish fulfillment than>you did everything wrong but you get a cuck hubby to look after you and your bastard children foreverseethe more faggot and get raped lmfaooo
>>282470577I've never said it was the ideal situation, but you can't expect every story to have it.
>>282470567Simply calling something like that a "character trait" belies the magnitude of the problems associated with it. Yes you're technically right but not in a useful way. It isn't something simple like "she's sporty and collects shitty big band vinyls" it's "she's done something to alter her brain chemistry and can no longer function in the way people expect her to".
>>282470685>it's way less wish fulfillmentNo it isn't it's just a more exaggerated and delusional wish>if only I were Isekaid I would be gigachad who hunts monster and fucks all the girls I wanted!!!1 >seethe more faggot and get raped lmfaooonow you're just pretending to be retarded
>>282470687And that's the point, most stories don't have it, because most of the time the guy, as the one accepting the girl, has to help her solve her problems born from her actions instead of her solving her problems.
>>282470751>n-no [cries more]I'm right and you know itowned
>>282470627It sounds more like it's saying "the ideal is to wait for marriage" and also "misguided girls who didn't wait for marriage aren't evil lepers who should be scorned and don't deserve a chance".Which seems fine to me. You don't have to be agree, but it's not an inconsistent message. It seems clear the series isn't advocating sleeping around. Could be wrong, I haven't seen it, but from what is said in the thread....
>>282470693 >it's "she's done something to alter her brain chemistry and can no longer function in the way people expect her to".The same could be said of an alcoholic character, and none of the anons who are pissing themselves in this thread would bat and eye at it.
>>282470844>and none of the anons who are pissing themselves in this thread would bat and eye at ithow do you know that? You don't
>>282470805>Isekaitard is actually retardedColor me surprised
>>282470751No it's true, most of the time guys don't fall for the girl for any real reason other than she's cute. In most harem shows the girl falls for the guy because of some initial display of kindness or generosity or sacrifice. It's also rarely merely strength.
>>282470827If that was the case and it came from the girl, then it doesn't work because "ideal" doesn't mean it's something she has to follow, like she never didIf it came from the boy, it goes against the core message of the seriesIt's pretty inconsistent, and is just trying to justify sleeping around with the excuse of>she was just misguided She slept with many men, she wasn't "misguided"
>>282470894Come on, you know /a/nons are very sensitive about the purity of their waifus
>>282470827You would have been right if the story was about a girl who was pumped and dumped once and now feels dirty and the story moves like it did, to get to that conclusion But you can't say you were misguided by everyone in your school, and the poor innocent boy has to accept you (and wait for marriage) now
no dude would date a reformed slut for 5 years with no sex involved. The resentment alone would absolutely demolish any kind of relationship they could have. This must be some shit written by women where the guy is borderline saintly with no libido when dealing with the girl and her issues
>>282470937>In most harem shows the girl falls for the guy because of some initial display of kindnessAre you arguing against yourself? That's the most ridiculed harem trope.
>>282458988>>282461047She needs to study for exams, so they cut things off until she's done. He goes to cram school admires this tutor for how good he is, it turns out that it's the same guy that diddled her as a JC and gave her the wishy washy speech on loved that made her like this. While they've split aforementioned guy tutors her.She thanks him for what he did to her back then. Main couple gets back together.
>>282471205I was expecting something bad but wasn't expecting... This...Holy fuck
