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kek
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>itt the point where a series turns to shit
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>>282433536
fun fact, in the novel Elilnalise straight up lied that Roxy is pregnant in order to make him do this. So Rifujin at least tried to justify this trope. But in anime it was left out because everyone in production team knew that this is cringe no matter how you cut it
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This is when this series turned based
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>>282433536
Why is it with MT in particular that people are so baffled by the idea of having multiple wives? Every important male character in Bookworm has like three wives and most readers just understand that it's a medieval fantasy world.
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Why do we hate harem now?
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>>282433727
Feminists.
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>>282433746
Because MT could have been more but the author took the easy wish fulfillment way out instead of writing something with consequences and soul
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>>282433727
Because Paul's infidelity was a huge deal that changed his family dynamic forever. But Rudy gets a pass because MC needs a harem.
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>>282433812
He cheated on his wife and impregnated a servant. That is literally not the same thing.
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>>282433783
The mc is literally a pedo
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>>282433536
Wallahi.
Polygamy is halal
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>>282433916
And?
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>>282433536
what i would do too, sylphie is boring
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>>282433968
Well you knew what you were getting into
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>>282433841
>That is literally not the same thing.
It's pretty much the same thing. He had sex with her without consulting with his 1st wife.
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>>282433727
Tourists and faggots hate MT no Matter what, don't brother.
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>>282433841
And Rudy cheated on his pregnant wife. How is that any better?
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>>282433916
>hurrrr he's a 50 y.o. man inside
You are a retard
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>>282433727
It's just a boring self insert fantasy
>no, MC can't possibly choose a single girl!
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>>282433536
>I-I-It's a redemption story about bettering himself. He's not a self-insert for degenerate losers.
lmao
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>>282434065
>>282434056
>>282433998
>>282433916
>>282433783
ironic weeb tourists, go back to the shounen thread or the 3x3 pseudo shit
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>>282433636
Truly. I think Roxy fucking him and then marrying him was completely out of character.
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>>282433536
The doormat that is his first wife knew her own value and had to accept
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>tfw only have 1 wife
how do I cope????????
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>>282433727
Twit*er tourists, simple as. The show is really popular and wide spread, so it gets to the scum there.
MT is based and the plot and character actions are believable for the setting.
My only gripe was the whole fucking arc dedicated for erectile dysfunction, that was a bit silly. I know it wasnt about ED, but a side effect of his mental state, but still it was a bit too retarded.
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Energize
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>>282434786
Convert to islam along with her, move to some goatfucker country and get another one.
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>>282433682
The worst cringe is yet to come, as nothing beats the pure retardation of how Eris comes to be his third wife. To be fair everything surrounding Eris always rubbed me the wrong way reading the novels, I hate how ridiculously overpowered Sword God style is compared to everything else. With everything else in the power system laid out there is a certain logic, but then with Sword God it just comes down to it winning always, all the time, no exceptions.
One can only hope they throw some of that out with the adaptation. I'd rather have a good adaptation than a purely faithful one.
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>>282433536
Rudy marrying Roxy is peak character development
From a NEET loser to a man who actually values the person that saved him from his spiral.
She wasn’t some childhood crush, she wasn’t some plot-convenient waifu, she was the one who lifted him up when nobody else could.
Roxy took him seriously, gave him purpose, and treated him like he could be better.
And Rudy recognized that, respected her, and locked it down.
That’s not just marriage, that’s the ultimate “thank you” in life form
Imagine seething because the guy chose the woman who literally made him who he is and this is why Rudy x Roxy isn’t just canon, it’s is fate.

Think about it, this wasn’t something Hitogami could ever twist
No matter what schemes, visions, or manipulations he tried, Roxy was always going to end up by Rudy’s side
She wasn’t a pawn, she wasn’t “placed” in his path, she was the one connection even destiny couldn’t tamper with.
Rudy and Roxy weren’t just a ship, they were proof that some things are too real to be rewritten.
Fate itself was BASED enough to tell Hitogami to fuck off and let Rudy have his Roxy, so fuck right off and let the man have what he fucking deserves. Yes one migger to a Greyrat just one migger GIVE HIM THAT MIGGER DEStINY WILLS IT
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>>282434138
It wasn't.
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>>282433746
Dishonest harem
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>>282437975
Hi Rifujin
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>>282438140
>Dishonest
No.
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>>282434009
Anon, that's a nipple
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>>282437975
Based I think all the naysayers are Hitogami apostles otherwise why would they be seething so much? It literally makes no sense yeah some guy decided to fuck a blue haired loli it’s not your problem. Literally the only people who would have a problem is Hitogami and Norn.
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>She wasn’t some childhood crush, she wasn’t some plot-convenient waifu, she was the one who lifted him up when nobody else could.
Roxy seduced him when he was vulnerable (which to be fair is almost always, because emotionally he's pretty much stuck as a 13 year old), and Sylphie was strong or weak (depending on how you see it) enough to accept it. Don't get me wrong, I personally think it makes for interesting drama to have a poly marriage be part of the story, particularly when that kind of thing is the norm in the world they live in. I just wouldn't rationalize it as the most perfect, beautiful thing ever, because it just isn't.
Even more so once Eris gets added into the mix. If anything I think her character should have been killed off, and for Rudy to actually end up cheating on Roxy and Sylphie with the cat slut later on. This would have been a nice callback to Paul and Lilia, and could have led to some interesting drama between Roxy, Sylphie and Linia. Plus, given how much of a genuine pervert Rudy is its completely unrealistic that he would never fuck that catgirl.
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Anyway, when are we getting season 3 and please tell me it'll be a return to the quality of season 1. I want to see a unique and soulful OP sequence for every episode.
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>>282438529
Roxy marrying Rudy isn’t just good it’s galaxy brain narrative alignment.
Yeah, she “seduced” him when he was vulnerable. Good. That’s exactly what he needed. Rudy is emotionally stunted, perpetually 13, and spiraling half the time. You know what that means? He needs someone patient, calm, and steady enough to anchor him. Roxy wasn’t taking advantage she was stabilizing the dude. If not for her, Rudy would’ve coped himself into another depression arc.
Killing off Eris would’ve been cheap. Having her come back and join the harem shows Rudy actually matures enough to handle the girl who once dumped him. It’s not just about getting the waifus together, it’s about completing his character arc he finally becomes strong enough to not fall apart when Eris re-enters his life.
>Linia cat slut cope
Rudy not smashing Linia is actually proof he has discipline. Paul couldn’t resist temptation with various girls, but Rudy while a perv at heart hooks up with the girls he had actual development with.
That contrast is deliberate, it’s not an oversight.

And I’m gonna continue ranting cause you don’t get it Sonny Jim.
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>>282437608
To be fair all three sword schools appear a bit wacky to me. Like, i get what Rifujin was going for with sword god. It was supposed to be something like a cowboy duel where the quickest drawer wins, but shooting aura cuts through half of the continent is a bit silly. I understand now why he thought "yeah, my mc is op but this is taking it too far, so no battle aura for him". Northern god style is cool in concept, if only it wasn't executed as a "random bullshit, go" type of deal. Water god feels like it's closest to being an actual martial art, but "parrying by sensing an intent of murder" is the most cringe anime shit i ever heard
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>>282439068
Listen up, because in the first place you are not understanding the scale of what just happened in Mushoku Tensei. Rudy marrying Roxy is not a ship. It is not a cute romance. It is literally the pivot point of reality itself. Hitogami can manipulate timelines, can scheme, can play his little 5D chess all he wants, but there is one thing even he cannot touch: the MIGGER-Greyrat marriage. Rudy, a man perpetually emotionally stuck at thirteen, a terminal coomer, a man-child, somehow puts a ring on Roxy, the woman who taught him magic, anchored him, and believed in him when nobody else could. That act alone shifts the flow of destiny.

From this union is born Lara, a child who becomes the key to Orsted’s power, the literal patch note he needed to finally break free from his curse loop. Without Roxy marrying Rudy, Lara never exists. Without Lara, Orsted loses again.

This is not fanservice. This is not coincidence. This is the universe itself correcting its course through one MIGGER and one Greyrat. The destiny itself telling the fate manipulator that karma has come for its neck.

People want to argue about Sylphy, Eris, catgirls, and perv tendencies. That’s fine. None of it matters. What matters is that this marriage is the anchor of reality. It is the cosmic redpill. It is destiny itself manifest. Roxy married Rudy, and as a result, the world was doomed(I guess I should write saved but if they kill Hitogami for real the world will end but that’s ok because it doesn’t really matter). Hitogami, for all his scheming, for all his foresight, could not account for this. The prophecy wrote itself: one MiGGER to a Greyrat, one child to aid the Dragon God, one union to BTFO a false god
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>>282433536
None of the wife proposals are good writing. Eris proposal and marriage is worse lol
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>>282438185
U sure bout that?
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>>282439068
>Rudy not smashing Linia is actually proof he has discipline. Paul couldn’t resist temptation with various girls, but Rudy while a perv at heart hooks up with the girls he had actual development with.
>That contrast is deliberate, it’s not an oversight.
Yes, and this if anything is proof that at a certain point the novels devolve into empty power fantasy. Rudy's character development basically stops somewhere around where the anime is now and he simply turns into a character that can do no wrong. He has his three loving wives, he's fighting against the man-god who is decidedly shown to be the big bad, and he's a perfect wagie for Orsted. Its too perfect.
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>>282437975
Based Roxy chad.
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>>282433746
Christians
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>>282439070
To be fair not at all, it’s quite logical and they parallel real life Japanese martial arts or other countries.

Sword God Style is fundamentally about the instantaneous draw and strike, which directly parallels iaijutsu, the Japanese martial art focused on drawing the sword from its scabbard. Hence the longsword of light and the focus being mainly there.

Water God Style is essentially sword-based Aikido. Its hallmark is redirection deflecting attacks and even turning magic against the attacker. Like Aikido, it emphasizes fluidity, balance, and using an opponent’s strength against them. In combat, it functions defensively, creating zones where anything entering can be neutralized.

North God Style is more interesting because it’s philosophical, emphasizing combat as a way of life and following the road of the first North God. Early training is akin to survival training, teaching students to use their environment and situational awareness strategically. Advanced stages develop into a broader martial philosophy, where adaptability, control of space, and dominance in various techniques reflect the different philosophies of K3 and K2 who have different ideas as to how that style should develop in the future.

These are the 3 main major martial arts in the current six sided world.
Why? because they work. Even a hobbo smuggler from god knows where can take out an entire village of beast peepo when they git gud at it.
Curiously I don’t see much focus on martial arts in other isekai if you don’t count martial arts being just video game skills like in Overlord.
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>>282439070
What it boils down to, but still isn't spelled out at any point in the books as far as I recall, is that the sword schools is basically magic for retards. That's what battle aura is. But that just makes it even more unsatisfying to me, because it means the most powerful people in the universe aren't people like Rudy or Roxy, people who figure out the principles to manipulate natural forces at a scale large enough to decide wars, no, its retards like Eris going on a Dragon Ball Z training arc training super hard and perfecting their sword stroke until said sword stroke also levels continents (and does it faster than anyone else can blink). Its just pure retardation, and for anime only viewers its going to really come out of left lane if they actually adapt the later novels faithfully, because so far they did a good job mostly ignoring the concept of battle aura and hiding or playing down the power level of the sword school practitioners.
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>>282433682
There's nothing wrong with that plot in itself, it's just shitty execution.
Back then, I though LN would fix it up, given how Overlord's LN diverged from its WN, but sadly nothing of the sorts.
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>>282439861
That’s quite wrong because in wars as shown during the Shirone arc magicians are the ones who thrive.
Not touki autists. We’ll get to Shirone arc in s4 though so that will be fun.
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>>282439841
Fuck me season 1 animation is so good, I need to rewatch this soon.
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Where I can read Redundant Reincarnation 03? Or do I have to wait for the official release?
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>>282439922
I'm not saying magic isn't powerful, I'm saying high level sword school practitioners are so far ahead of high level magic users there's no contest whenever they do get matched up. If some sword god style emperor was involved in that war they'd somehow find a way to cut Rudy to pieces before he could blink no matter where they were on the battlefield. The novel has to invent a fucking terminator suit for Rudy to even survive being on the same continent as these people for a minute, and pretty much every suit ends up trashed.
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>>282439930
Help
There's no fan translations?
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>>282433746
Because we want wives now and at least some of us grew up enough to recognize having more than one completely ruins the point of having any at all.
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>>282440098
>hundreds of meters away
They can’t do this. Only Orsted can with his godsword.
They’re very limited when it comes to range. And with armies standing in the way yes they are going to get tired and bogged down eventually for the magicians to finish them off.
Especially when it comes to sword god style they are ideal for duels but not when it comes to getting surrounded and zerged on.
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>>282433636
Wasn't an entire season of this show about the MC's dick not working? I guess we were fine with that
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>>282440280
Just to add when it comes to adaptability the most dangerous in large scale wars would definitely be north god style, if it’s them they could definitely infiltrate enemy ranks to assassinate the magicians. So you’re not entirely wrong.
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If Rudy was going to go degen, he should have gone full degen and fucked Aisha and basically every other girl. Never go half degen because it invites retarded normalfags to whine.
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>>282437975
Nah, it's cringe
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>>282439742
That's not a problem
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>>282440098
>high level magic users
High tier magic wasn't really developed in the story AT ALL.
Frankly, neither were sword styles.
Take Sword God, for example, after 'getting' sword of light upon reaching saint level, there's nothing beyond that.
King, Emperor and God is basically just "swings the sword faster".
Water God style gets some love with the ultimate techniques, but we really only saw Reida's territory/zone control, as other water God practitioners can just deflect spells/attacks.

Look at earlier levels too from beginner to advanced:
Sword God has some vague notion of offense,
water God style - parry, and North God - running on all fours and throwing your sword.

It pisses me off to no end, how Rudeus basically stopped his magic "progression" after becoming water saint.
From his academic pursuits in university arc he off-screen learning detox.
Orsted's training was gave him fuck'all.
The only notable points of power progression after childhood arc, was getting magic eye, Mech-tech that he didn't even build himself & his purple lighting.
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>>282433536
What i would from isekai trash to do at least once
is to have a moment in which through random magick the mc is transformed from fantasy world handsome guy body into his real ugly fat neet body and have the rest of the cast react to it.
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>>282440486
Yes a factor of realism is what keeps the eternal normalfag seething. When they see a genuine real relationship which they will never have this is usually what happens.
When they perceive it could be real and not something which would only happen in anime that is when they go apeshit.
Sorry not sorry I guess
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>>282439926
OP, i just rewatched everything and made this thread. It's absurd how good the first season is and how much it's worth watching it in a one-go
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>>282440486
my wife
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>>282433536
polygami master kurosawa
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>>282440146
Nope, but you can simply buy it raw and then copy paste it into chatgpt to get a translation which would be better than any fan TL out there.
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>>282433536
>Guys, I got seduced by this woman at my most venerable state, leading to her probably getting impregnated. I have to take responsibility for it, because it is all my fault.
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>>282433536
>inviting the used goods horndog who flicked her bean to the thought of being fucked by your dad
first big mistake he made
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>>282440609
I never understood this image. Not to criticize MT, but what are grandiose fantasy vistas supposed to compete in with standard medieval towns? Do you just like style over substance? Is SAO a masterpiece then?
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>>282440751
Btw I’m saying this unironically.

And go with this prompt:
You are a professional translator whose primary goal is to precisely translate Japanese to English; Only respond in English. If you are unsure of a Japanese sentence, still always try your best estimate to respond with a complete English translation; Don't do any explanations & ask any questions; When translating, strive to faithfully reflect the meaning and tone of the original text; pay attention to cultural nuances and differences in language usage, and ensure that the translation is grammatically correct; When there's JAPANESE letters, analyse the Japanese letter's correct ROMAJI pronunciation. You must include ROMAJI Pronunciation along with the ENGLISH translation text; For technical terms and proper nouns, either leave them in the original language or use appropriate translations as necessary; After completing the translation, review it once more to check for errors or unnatural expressions. Read the entire Japanese text to understand the context, Identify technical terms and maintain their integrity during translation, Identify the ROMAJI pronunciation that fits the sentence, Translate the Japanese text into English, ensuring clarity and precision. Output Format Provide the translated English text in a plain, coherent format along with Romaji inside [] without additional commentary or explanations.
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>>282440486
>fucking Aisha
>degenerate
She was literally groomed by her mother to be a concubine for Rudeus and his family approved it by their silence.
You are missing the point with this retarded "muh normalfag" boogieman like many other retards, as I can legally marry my fucking cousin IRL and nobody would give a shit.
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>>282440783
Cousin =/= Half sister
Aisha is genuine incest, but not as bad as Norn. Just enough for it to be hot.
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>>282440783
Marrying your first cousin is legal in the civilized world, however?
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>>282440868
It's not only legal but encouraged by some families in Japan
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>>282440865
>still missing the point
It doesn't matter how closely related they are, the point of it was the regret Rudeus had from gooning to his small niece in his former life.
The author even spells it out for you, with how his nu-family reacts to him being retarded about it.
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>>282440391
Honestly at that point is North God Style even a sword style? Pretty much everything that makes North God Style unique is everything they do outside of sword techniques.
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>>282441118
>is North God Style even a sword style
It's totally a sword style.
The ninja larp was basically a branch school, given how the original style will forever live inside Atoferatofe and her immortal family line.
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>>282441118
Well it’s not a sword style that’s the thing,
Even the name is unique its called North God style because Kalman I the founder and first North God was a warrior from the northern region of the Central Continent near the harsh frontiers where survival required toughness and adaptability. He developed a pragmatic combat style that emphasized unpredictability, survival tactics, and dirty fighting essentially a win at any cost approach.
The title North God itself was both a martial designation and a recognition of his status as a Chad.
and that’s the conflict Kalman II and Kalman III have with each other.
One thinks they should focus on the sword but it is definitely not just a sword style.

it's more like an ideology of sorts who strive to follow the path of the first north god, this was mentioned in subjugation of KDK as well that has a bit more about them.
it’s less about flashy moves(although they do have them) and more about adopting the mindset and combat principles of the first North God.
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>>282441374
Shut the fuck up Alek and listen to your dad already.
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>>282433536
are there any other polyamorous anime couples
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Please listen to Nanahoshis song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9u7oQ7aaV0
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>>282441565
Zero no tsukaima?

>>282441626
damn that amount of views
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>>282441497
So you are saying that ninja larp is a branch school?
>inb4 boomer seethe
Kalman 3rd btfo the 2nd proved his point by defeating him.
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>>282440578
>It pisses me off to no end, how Rudeus basically stopped his magic "progression" after becoming water saint.
In this regard it would have been more interesting to watch Oldeus story, since he did end up getting truly reality breaking magic power. So I guess technically speaking Sword God isn't necessarily the end all be all.
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MT turns to shit once it focuses on power levels. The author is really bad at writing fighting shounen shit, which the latter half of the story turns into. We get all the bad parts of shounen without any of the positives (instead of self-accomplishment Rudy becomes a subservient wageslave).
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>>282441667
i mean like legit one not main couple and orbiters.
This might be he first one
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>>282433636
Three points
1: Rudy loves her. In anime logic that makes this ok.
2: Rudy needed migger sex to get better after Paul, which in incel logic makes this ok.
3: Rudy apologizes, and Sylphie accepts it. Which in real logic makes this ok.
Bottom line, it's ok.
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>>282440486
Imoutos are PEAK
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>>282441776
Alek almost ruined it for everyone instead of consolidating that strength, the school fractured into two factions.
Not only that but you also have Randolph who was a north god candidate but precisely because of his conflict with Alek he left despite his way of fighting being the prime example of north god style. In fact Randolph’s way of fighting might even be lost after he dies unless he passes it on to Zeig(since he passed on the death god title)
Instead of consolidating and strengthening the school Alek just completely almost ruined it but thankfully he got buckbroken by Orsted so alls well that ends well.
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>>282439610
hrrrng roxy smol
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>>282441941
Rudeus is canonically the most powerful mage, at 16 he has a more stable situation than 99% of the world he lives in and he's not too ugly according to some of the cast
Sylphie knows she's not finding a better partner, if a partner at all. Now that she's pregnant she won't find another man easily. All she can do is cope with Rudeus mutt.
But yeah that was pretty brutal. Sylphie deserved something else
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>>282441565
Gundam iron blooded orphan
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>>282433536
I'm not in favor of polygamy. Just pick one and be faithful.
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>>282440609
xd
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>>282442330
Why?
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>>282442338
Yes that’s all you can write XD.
MT mogs your favorite series and that’s all you can do you poor normalfag trash. How does it feel to be mogged?
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>>282442330
Bigyny should be acceptable
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>>282442195
The novels do both Sylphie and Roxy dirty desu. Sylphie was a competent guardian for Asuran royalty (probably had more confirmed up-close and personal kills than Rudy, at least before his war crimes in the Shirone war) and once she married Rudy she just ended up being permanent hen mother to him, a retarded migger (who is just as much of a child as Rudy mentally, so completely useless as a mother) and a retarded sword autist (who is also a permanent child and incapable of actually raising children). Roxy has her teaching position but doesn't really get to contribute doing anything useful to the story. The whole story just turns into Rudy and Eris going deeper on increasingly retarded power level faggotry.
Tragic waste of the best girl in the show.
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>>282439190
This is fanservice and everything else you described is just some magic mumbo jumbo to justify it. Same as Elinalise being a cum toilet because of a curse.
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>>282442454
Keep seething shitskin lol.
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>>282433636
I know this is bait but the series went to shit waaaaaaay before this.
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>>282441811
>In this regard it would have been more interesting to watch Oldeus story
Totally. I 100% agree.
While MT has merit in multiple its <<facets>> as a work of fiction, what hooked and got me invested was the curiosity of what Rifujin would do with his magic system and he didn't really do much, in the end.
I mean, magic got basically axed. The last crumb of world building regarding magic was that high tier spells compresses magical power more... than lower tier spells (which was a total basic bitch water is wet logic) & that God tier spells require... a ritual and you should just totally forget they even exist and just enjoy this cool not-a-gun Magic™ shotgun and totally-not-a-gun Magic™ Gatling gun
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Hot take: Post-timeskip Eris is a shit character and should not exist. Her becoming third wife was purely due to obligation and had no reason to happen. Her post-timeskip role could have been taken by a random male mercenary with little consequence.
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>>282442495
you are completely misunderstanding the narrative purpose of Sylphie and Roxy. Calling them “wasted” misses the whole point.
Sylphie was a competent guardian and could have been a battlefield queen, but the story never intended her to be the frontline warrior forever. Her role as a stabilizer and emotional anchor for Rudy is literally her narrative function.
She chooses to take on the role of mother, because in this world, children don’t raise themselves. That’s not a failing of her character that’s her exercising agency in a realistic fantasy context. She’s
the glue holding the Greyrat household together and that’s a huge contribution to the story because without her, Rudy’s “autistic sword nerd” tendencies would destroy the family.
Roxy is far from wasted. She’s literally the keystone of the plot, the one whose teaching shapes Rudy into a human capable of interacting with the world and surviving Hitogami level threats.
Without Roxy, there is no Lara, no influence on Orsted, no grounded foundation for Rudy’s growth. Saying she doesn’t contribute to the story is like saying the root of a tree doesn’t matter because you only see the branches.

Rudy and Eris escalating their strength and fighting side by side is literally the point. That’s what they promised each other and they do justice to that promise. Mushoku Tensei is a story about growth and consequences. Power escalation doesn’t erase Sylphie or Roxy’s importance it highlights why their grounding influence matters. Without them, Rudy would have spiraled far earlier, and Eris would be completely unanchored.
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>>282442038
Indeed
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>>282441941
It's not okay
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>>282442564
I couldn't take the powerlevel shit seriously once the immortal demons started taking active roles. They completely break the system and logically should have been genocided by the rest of the world due to how much of a menace they are.
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>>282442495
>wife becomes a housewife
>novel did her dirty
I do agree that Roxy's role in the story after the marriage and giving birth is a bit weird, but Sylphie got it pretty good.
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>>282442330
Having more than one goes against the point of having any at all
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>>282442757
Umm hello? What are you even talking about. Randomly saying things despite not having read the story isn’t gonna work you know?
A
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This series makes normalfags seethe so much it reminded me of how they used to hate weebs and anime before invading the community. Truly a kino anime in its original form.
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>>282433536
This is one of those series that I want to watch or read but theres to much noise around it to enjoy the series just as a series itself.
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>>282440773
I think you understand this very well, in this thread we talk about things which other isekai series discussion threads can’t even dream to talk about. It’s simply impossible because they don’t have much substance.
Not just isekai but take any other thread right now, you can’t have discussions like this because other series are barebones. How I wish we got something as good as MT one day but alas it seems impossible!
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>>282442043
>>282442195
>>282442495
>>282442731
tldr
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>>282442915
Hipster behavior
Trash is still trash
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>>282442852
He has a decent point.
Also think about, imagine just leaving demon lords be after Laplace war retarded.
You defeat the "ultimate" evil and then just leave his EXTREMELY dangerous generals be.
>inb4 but.. erm...
No, just no. Also higher ups KNOW that Laplace will return and still ignore his previous allies.
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>>282433536
YIPEE
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>>282443005
wtf, I swear it's neither a stroke nor am I angry. where did some of the words go?
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>>282442731
>>282442794
I don't mind her becoming a housewife, or Roxy also taking a more passive role in adventuring, but they basically had no presence in the story from a certain point on. It was as if Rifujin had forgot they existed, or more likely just wasn't capable of persuasively writing for that kind of character and balancing their perspective with what was happening in the story at that point. More than anything its a problem of making the story be about poorly escalating power wankery, it creates a huge tonal shift because up to this point it was a story that balanced many things (slice of life, comedy, emotional trauma, fantasy adventure) fairly well.
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>>282442737
What would sex with young Norn and Aisha be like?
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>>282442852
Badigadi should have been erased from existence for the heinous retarded shit he did. That applies to all other immortal demons aside from Kishirika. These retards are walking nukes who ignore the rules of the power system and have zero accountability. We know it's possible to permanently kill them, and the fact nobody seriously pursues that is idiotic.
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>>282443005
And pray tell how would they beat them? You seriously think they can just march in there and beat the likes of Atofe and Badigadi who can regenerate from a single cell?
How exactly? Whose forces would do that exactly? Millis who are trying right now to become friendly with beast peepo to have a friendly nation nearby once shit hits the fan in the future or Asura who are in total decay.
After the Laplace wars and barely managing to have peace and basically barely managing to survive who is going to march into the demon continent to take out not other demonoids no but just Badigadi Atofe, Moore and Atofe’s army etc? You’d have to be insane when they can barely defend themselves.
He doesn’t have a point but it’s a good duel for discussion.
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>>282433727
Post covid wannabe weebs
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>>282443157
The humies can’t kill them.
At most use barrier magic for sealing.
They don’t have a way to kill the immortal bloodline demons like Badigadi who even survived Laplace’s destruction and soul fracture which took out an entire continent.
The full blooded immortals are just that, almost completely immortal.
Orsted has a way to kill them but not the others.
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>>282433727
Normies and tourist love the idea of poly relationships until they remember that its mostly done by rich guys who have multiple wives and girls that have tons of guys dating them are basically non existent.
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>>282442195
>>282442749
It's fine really. To deny Sylphie this choice is to deny her agency. That's misogynistic behavior. All white knights are inherently misogynistic, of course.
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>>282433636
this
I've never dropped an anime that fast
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>>282443186
>if you kill your enemies they win
Yes, the Demons lost the war because humans were that much weaker than them.
As Rufujin said himself, the Demon Lords are just basically weird and misunderstood nice people.
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>>282433536
>the virgin Chad
>"I Rudeus cheat on my wife but I was kinda sad so it's ok btw I want to marry her. No I still don't have a job because my past is so tragic please feel sorry for me. *title drop* Oh yall ok with that? cool"

>the CHAD virgin
>"I Kazuma will stay loyal this girl who just happened to say she likes me first and I shall reject all offerings to the contrary. Made mad cash from my various jobs btw. My past? That's in the past."
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bros I love her so much it hurts
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>>282442757
Logically the immortal demons should have genocided the rest of the world if they just bothered to have any fucking children at all. Even a couple dozen of them would basically be enough to rule the world, and yet they don't bother to have hundreds of children for whatever reason.
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>>282443286
They don't get killed/sealed because the author doesn't want it to happen. Badigadi rightfully should have been killed at the end of the story, but he wasn't due to emotional blackmail pulled out of his ass. Immortal demon blood is so OP logically every single person should try to reproduce with one, but they don't because reasons.
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>>282443458
Same
Personally I'd be satisfied with one babymaking wife, but I'm low ambition unlike Rudy.
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>>282443157
Based.
It's really dumb how human kingodm's are both the most advanced and powerful, yet also ignore all their potential enemies.
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>>282443055
kek
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>>282443443
>he doesn’t know.
Ahh my anime only friend you do know the first human demon war and then the Laplace wars they only won because of dragon bros right?
In fact right now it’s the armored dragon calendar kek.
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>>282437975
>>282439190
>its not x, its y
Be honest, did you use ai to write this?
>>282442960
TRVKE
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>>282437608
Yes I was expecting at least some conflict but there is nothing
Not even Eris tries to monopolize Rudeus

It's so retarded, this series peaked where season 1 ended the rest is shit
Still looking forward to animated orsted donuts though
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>>282443500
K1 reproduced with Atofe and produced Übermensch‘s like K2 and K3 and that’s only because he beat the crap out of her kek.
Also Badigadi randomly has sex even in the anime what are you even talking about?
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>>282443055
Can anyone blame him
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>>282443597
>he's this low IQ
The war had two sides. The human side and demon side. The dragon clan was fighting for the human side.
It's like how horde in WoW doesn't consist only of orcs.
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>>282443552
Are you just replying to yourself?
You can read the LN you know. The human kingdoms are not just weakened they barely survived the last war.
Is this a new strategy to say random shit and reply to yourself?
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>>282443662
I'm saying that the writer took his own setting seriously the immortal demons would have taken over the world already. They are walking gods that can reproduce and interbreed with everyone else, yet their blood remains rare. That makes zero sense.
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>>282443662
>i don't have reading comprehension
kek
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>>282443666
I don't.
I blame her. She took advantage of him, and pretty much forced him to make some really uncomfortable compromises that he shit on his father for doing in the past.
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is this lolibaba
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>>282433636
It turns to shit before he is reincarnated
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>>282443797
Yes. It's all me. It's not that you are retarded and every single point just flies over you dumb head.
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>>282433636
bro the academy arc already did that
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>>282443756
This is just damage control at this point. And again you’re wrong just read the LN.
>>282443799
I see, saying random shit again but interestingly Rifujin even thought that far ahead.
The immortal bloodline dilutes over time.
For example K2 and K3 don’t have the same eternal lifespan or even the ability to regenerate immidiatelt like Badi and Atofe do.
The blood dilutes very fast and eventually they turn more and more normal.
The true immortal demons are a few like Badi and Atofe.
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>>282443944
>don’t have the same eternal lifespan
Both Kalmans are immortal.
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>>282444078
I beg you, read the LN.
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>>282443799
>I'm saying that the writer took his own setting seriously the immortal demons would have taken over the world already.
Why does that follow? They're immortal beings that live for thousands of years. Several of them are shown to either be insane or simply don't care.
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>>282444144
And btw this isn’t something that needed to be spelled out because you can see they’re not immortal even while fighting but I’m glad Rifujin did just in case any retard would say something retarded like you did.
This man really thought that far ahead.
And then people compare MT to some shitty lesser isekai lol
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>>282444144
>post is about lifespan
>replies claiming that he can be killed
I'm torn between two possibilities:
1) You are a troll
2) You are a retard
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I love MT generals, even if half you cunts are baiting there's literally no other anime general (except Eva) that inspires this much effort and blog posting. And like Eva its going to be the same a decade from now (except we'll all be physically plugged into President Emperor Elon's biomechanical spider nightmare matrix, but apart from that).
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>>282444293
>They are walking gods
Ok you can damage control as much as you’d like and you can say random shit as much as you’d like but I hope other anons understood, Rifujin is very autistic about these things and this is why this >>282440609 makes so much sense. It’s not a shitpost it’s simply reality.
See you guys around. This was a masterclass of owning detractors. Brought to you by MT Chad.
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>>282444078
Ahahahahaha
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>>282442395
it's disrespectful to your first woman especially if she is devoted and has always acted with her husband's best interests in mind. It really disgusts me how the whole wife thing is handled in MT.
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>>282444386
>random shit
It was very specific.
You are the one doing damage control.
Who the fuck are you even lying for? Is it some sort of reflex to prevent down-votes on reddit?
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>>282444078
>both kalmans are immortal
>>282444144
>I’m not immortal
READ MIGGA READ
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>>282443842
sovl
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>>282433536
>"And so, due to how things panned out..."
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>>282443081
Uncomfortable unless you can get them really wet
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>>282444469
Take your own advice.
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>>282444734
They're literally not immortal broski they don't have eternal lifespan either. I'll give this win to my fellow MT chad just to be objective.
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Niggas here are bitching about fiction with multiple wives when most of them won’t even have one in real life.
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>>282444802
kino
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>>282444802
>>282444840
>Rudeus Greyrat
>I am very glad that you went to the Ranoa Magic University
>which lies at the northern end of the Central Continent
>which lies far far far far away from the continent Begaritt, where there's only sand and death and shit
>you didn't go to Begaritt which is just full with shitty sand there
>anyway, you went to Ranoa Magic University
>and not Begaritt
>in Ranoa Magic University, which lies at the northern end of the Six-Sided world, and thus the farthest away as it can be from the continent of Begaritt
>which is full of useless sand, may I remind you
>I see that you sought out a dude *snicker* wearing sunglasses
>at Ranoa Magic University
>and not the continent of Begaritt
>listen well and heed my words
>you should really start a very very intimate relationship with that person
>don't worry if you think that's helluva gay
>just tell yourself "no homo"
>Ranoa Magic University is where your manly pride will return
>and not the continent of Begaritt
>now that is gay continent
>it has gay dwarves in there
>you fortunately didn't want to have your butthole ravaged by gay dwarves like I told you would happen, did you?
>saying "ho homo" really doesn't protect you
>let your mom be rescued by your drunk dad and and the gay dwarves that want to ravage your butt instead
>oh yeah, and Roxy is there as well, I guess
>anyway, white is the best color
>remember
>white is best
>if you ever have dreams about blue birds, just say fuck X
>anything blue will make you regret a lot
>DESHO
>DESHOO
>Deshooo
>deshoooo
>ᴅᴇsʜᴏoooo
>ᵈᵉˢʰᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ
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>>282444789
Close your mouth when you breathe.
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>>282434138
she used to slick watching his parents fuck, I don't think it's that far fetched.
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>>282444871
true kino would have been if they sex swapped sylphie as part of the teleportation calamity
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More MCs need to be like Rance.
Sticking to just 1 girl is gay.
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>>282444931
Do you define your own personality by everything you have ever fapped to?
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>that cool fan video showing rudeus vs osterd got taken down based on nothing
bizarre
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How could he NOT fuck any catgirls. MT has the best catgirls of almost any anime, and none of them are impregnated by the protagonist. Its a fucking crime against humanity.
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>>282439190
This shit is cringe.
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>>282444973
saying no homo wouldn't help then
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>>282445021
I like women I fapped to otherwise I wouldn't fap to them.
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>>282445028
Why the hell did mangod tell him to fuck the catgirls? It's such a retarded piece of advice that only soured their relationship.
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Gyaru-coded beast girls was a stroke of genius.
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>>282445108
And this was written in like 2012
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>>282445176
meant for>>282445119
Also Pursena>Linia and by a lot
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>>282444730
Well Aisha is a MSGK and lewd so getting her in bed isn't the problem, though her act would crumble the second her hymen breaks
Norn meanwhile would take a lot of work to get her into it, but if she was, it'd be really sweet like Sylphy.
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>>282445108
Hitogami doesn't think very highly of anyone especially Rudeus. If it had worked it would've been amazing.
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>>282433636
>>282437608
>"BUAAAAHHHH I DON'T LIKE IT THEREFORE BAD!!!"
There's literally nothing wrong with any of it. The only criticism I can make is regarding how fast the progression between Rudeus and Roxy went in the books and how they hardly feel like soulmates.
Eris is the daughter of nobles and this shit is commonplace there, the only reason she doesn't get a harem herself is because the only two characters that could ever end up as her lover is either Rudeus or Luke.
Sylphie spent more time in Rudeus' house (where Paul had two wives) than her own home, and she was taught by both Lilia and Zenith a wide range of skills, they were the one that actually groomed her into being Rudeus' wife. All of this, including harems, was set up since the beginning, with Rudeus neither being the first (that would be Paul) nor the last to have a harem. Shit, this isn't even a male exclusive thing since Ariel herself has a reverse harem. Now I'm suppose to believe this is bad writing because "muh incels!!!!"?. I'm good.
>I hate how ridiculously overpowered Sword God
You mean the sword god style that gets mogged multiple times in the books by non sword god style users? Oh yeah, super overpowered. It's not like there's a style that can literally parry and counter the longsword of light, instantly killing the sword retard, right?
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>>282445206
Pursena exclusively for marriage and breeding.
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>>282444871
>>ᴅᴇsʜᴏoooo
>>ᵈᵉˢʰᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ
how do i do this ..
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1. Write a backstory about Elinalise's cocky adventures. MC is some random guy who tagged alongside her and experiences all her debauchery. Juxtapose it with a volume of her present everyday life with her current husband.
2. Redudancy needs a pure Orsted focused volume
3. Write a backstory of Kishirika's random (cocky) adventures, with Badigadi as MC doing equally random (cocky) stuff.
4. Begin full expansion into the tales narrating conquests of Rudy's children.

Then, and only then, will Mushoku Tensei be 'complete'.
Now, Rifujin is 40 years old. Most these writers (understandably) stop completely or slow down to nothing once they hit 50. 60 onwards, retired.
10 more years.
What'll it be, Rifujin?
With 1 volume a year, that's 10 more volumes.
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>>282439742
Yeah all the hardcore Christian believers on the 4chan anime board
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I don't understand why isekai authors take their power fantasy character who gained power through hard work and turn them into subservient wageslaves. Both MT and Kumo did this.
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>>282442974
Weird how all I see in these discussions is mental gymnastics to defend cheating and polygamy as trad, and stuff about power levels, just like in re:zero threads.
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>>282445642
Polygamy and powerlevels are both male fantasies.
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>>282445475
>2. Redudancy needs a pure Orsted focused volume
Orsted POV was so good. I'd be up for more of that.
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Just finished binging both seasons and wasn't really expecting Roxxy to become a love interest if I'm being honest. I was expecting Sylphie to die on while Rudeus was away and have Eris introduced back into the story in the next season while Roxxy stayed as a mentor/god role to Rudeus. I guess he's just gonna end up with three wives instead? Good for him but feels like a cop out to me
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>>282443842
Wow, this really looks like serious story with worldbuilding and plot being closer to Lord of the Rings or Illiad than other isekai!
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>>282445642
I rarely see power level discussions on these threads. The only mental gymnastics here are people trying to convince others that everything that happened didn't make sense contextually and isn't absolutely brilliantly written
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>>282444440
MT is fiction, let people have their wish fulfillment in fiction. Things like incest and polygamy are enjoyable in a fictional context. They're extremely dehumanizing in reality.
The reason they wanted to ban GTA is because the gameplay is extremely dehumanizing. But it's just a GAME. These things are meant to be enjoyed in the context of fiction.
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>>282445810
>story can't have comedy or it's bad
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>>282445306
Slowly walk away from people while facing them, raising your arms and saying "deshoooo, deshoooo" in increasingly faint tones.
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>>282445723
Wives will be the least of viewers worries going forward. We're still at 12/26 of the main MT volumes which were covered by the anime.
Going to be fun seeing more and more people seeing just how much this series defies the expectations of how usual isekai operate.
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>>282445810
Tolkien wishes he could have integrated slice of life and comedy into his stories as well as Rifujin. If he was alive now he'd be writing isekai too.
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You're right, I love having my expectations subverted by having the previously independent MC become a corporate footstool. So subversive!
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>>282445028
One fuckable one becomes his maid and he STILL doesn't sexually molest her at all. It's quite astonishing.
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>>282445923
This tbqh Tolkien wishes he were as good of a writer as Rifujin.
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>>282445996
Tolkein is such a hack. MT is peak literature.
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>>282442195
>Sylphie knows she's not finding a better partner, if a partner at all
She's basically minor nobility and closest confidante of the future queen, could get one of the Notos boys if she wanted. But then again, all asuran nobility are huge fucking degenerates.
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If Rifujin wrote LoTR the final fight would be against elf demigod Glorfindel, who betrayed the cast and joined Sauron because he was asked very nicely.
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>groom child for years
>rape him when he has a pregnant wife at home
awesome writing
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>>282445858
But not everyone's wish is polygamy. A lot of people's idea of wish fulfillment is starting a family with the girl they've had a crush on since childhood. MT tries to have it's cake and eat it too by doing both, but all it did was make everyone seethe lol.
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>>282446037
He could learn a thing or two from MT. Instead of Sam as his sole companion, Frodo could gradually build a small group of close female allies who fall in love with him during the journey. Think of Éowyn traveling with them, or an elf-maid in Lothlórien who insists on joining after meeting him.
The Ring amplifies desires—both good and bad. If Frodo had Rudeus-like charisma (and a tendency to attract women), it could be partly tied to the Ring’s subtle influence. Tolkien is such a fucking hack.
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>>282445883
Both LotR and Illiad have comedic elements that fit the tone of the story. If that screenshot is indicative in the same way, then lmao.
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>>282445960
Calling the Orsterd Corporation a "Corporation" is very generous.
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Frodo defeating Sauron by destroying the ring is too cliche. What that should have happened is him swearing eternal servitude to Aragorn who then defeats Sauron in combat. Now that's good writing.
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>>282446216
>Run mercenary agencies in every country
>Claim your CEO can foresee the future and decides who deserves to live or die
>Kill specific people in powerful positions anyway because "they serve an evil god" who has never been heard of before and its dubious they even exist
>Put a bounty on a random poor gambling addict monkey man just because without any reason whatsoever
>Have connections with Perugius, Atoferatofe and Kishirika
>House a green haired male child (possible Laplace reincarnation?)
>Gets donations from Ariel, queen of Asura Kingdom
>Millis Church bows to Orsted Corp
>Made the future Millis Pope marry a literal slut
>had Asura coerce king dragon kingdom to serve their interests
>Had a hand to play during Shirone Kingdoms war
>Has employed Zanoba, a known shizo and the head ripping prince who builds them magic armors and golems
>completely annihilated Biheiril Kingdom
>Have bought slaves
>Orsteds very appearance strikes fear and its obvious he is evil
>Insist that the Supard race are in fact NOT bloodthirsty barbarian demons even when theres proof that they are fucking crazy
>Second-in-command of OrstedCorp is in a polygamous relationship with 3 wives, has multiple demonic beasts in his mansion, is a cult leader of a panty worshipping "religion"
They're Rothschild tier just less evil than their real life counterparts.
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>>282441941
>and Sylphie accepts it. Which in real logic makes this ok.
The mentality that "consent" is the ultimate moral order is so fucking laughable, and pure tranny feminist ideology. Just because two or more people consent to doing something bad doesn't mean that bad thing is okay.

>>282443384
>misogynistic
haha. You're literally proving the point.
You do realize that the series itself is actually misogynistic, right? Because it treats the women as shallow sex toys that have no agency at all other than being tools for the MC's (reader's) fetishes.
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>>282446146
I'm not seething. I like the story. The idea of a wide-harem is deeply appealing to many people, trapped in loveless marriages or remaining incels.
There's plenty of Hallmark movies that already corner the market you're describing. Go watch one.
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I don’t really care about MT that much (dropped it pretty early), but the fact that so many people keep hatewatching a series they obviously don’t enjoy is kinda ridiculous.
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>>282443379
>Normies and tourist love the idea of poly relationships
In what world? Certainty not reality.
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>>282446316
Sorry you don't get to define the dynamics of Rudeus' marriage. Only Rudeus and his wives get to determine what is good or bad in that context. Marriage is the tiny vassal-state in the larger nation-state; the rules are determined by the sovereigns, which would be Rudy and his wives.
This is deeply unsettling to the statist, who wishes to proscribe and control every detail in the lives of others.
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>>282445704
Not really. Polyshit is something only third world shitters want.
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>>282446419
Anon, harem is an entire genre.
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>>282446419
You know the primary audience is Japanese right?
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>>282446364
I quite like the first half the story. It drops off once it becomes powerlevel shit.
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>>282446364
Most people watching it liked the show until the last 3 episodes went a different direction they were expecting, so there hasn't been a real chance for hate watchers to hate watch yet. Just wait til season 3 comes around. These threads are going to get even worse
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>>282446407
>literal leftist tranny logic
Polygamy is objectively bad, and objectively means shallow relationships. You can not change that with "consent".
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>>282433682
>fun fact, in the novel Elilnalise straight up lied that Roxy is pregnant in order to make him do this. ... But in anime it was left out because everyone in production team knew that this is cringe no matter how you cut it
It was to make it more of a parallel to Paul marrying Lilia, but the anime also left out any mention of Paul having ever married Lilia (aside from Rudeus mentioning that he didn't see Lilia as a concubine) so it made less sense.
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>>282446451
Which never happens. In fact fights take up very little time of even later vols.
Even vol 25 and 26 which are supposed to be focused on that don't have it.
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>>282446503
>Polygamy is objectively bad
Why?
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>>282446430
Maybe 1% of the harem genre actually ends in poly shit, and that's a generous estimate.

>>282446450
And? Third worlders are places like Africa and Iran. The only places on Earth poly shit isn't outlawed.
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>>282446503
>mindbroken /pol/bot blathering about leftist trannies
you're in the wrong board shitheel.
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>>282446535
don't have much of it*
But whenever major ones do happen they're awesome that's one of the things I like about MT.
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>>282446419
t. Sukdeep Ranjeet in his love-filled monogamous arranged marriage with a 12 year old
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>>282446540
Because it's built of the premise that you are not faithful and devoted to your spouse. And no, you can not be faithful and devoted to multiple people. That's an oxymoron.

You are, conceptually, splitting your time, energy and feelings between multiple people. Thus making it a shallow relationship.

>>282446556
I've never posted on /pol/ even once. And that changes nothing about how you apply your "logic".
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>>282446550
Anon the primary audience are Japanese are you ok?
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>>282446611
Why do you keep repeating this? What point do you think you're trying to make?
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>>282446632
Are you ok anon?
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>>282446642
Okay, you're just autistic.
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>>282433636
The ED arc did it for me
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>>282446632
What's your opinion on yuri shows where the female leads end up in heterosexual relationships?
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>the actual irl canon ship
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>>282446688
>>282446693
>mindless screeching about yuri out of no where
Thanks for admitting you lose.
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>>282446510
i don't remember him saying anything about concubines, but i distinctly remember someone saying that lily is basically like a second mother to rudy and rudeus heard that and didn't comment on it which implies that he agrees with that. but for the life of me i can't remember whose line that was and when it was said
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>>282446726
hahahhahahhahha I knew it was you, faggot.
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>>282446605
>I've never posted on /pol/ even once. And that changes nothing about how you apply your "logic".
disturbing to imagine you're this deep in the weeds on your own. impressive even.
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>>282446726
Anon I'm not the one mindlessly screeching about MT all day long. Why are you projecting something which you are doing yourself?
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>>282446746
All me btw
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>>282433727
Generally the kind of productions that have real actual harem dynamics are trashy or not meant to be taken 'that' seriously as a story, but MT was promising a bit more than that. At the very least, it's reputation acts as such
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>>282446746
>>282446749
>lose argument
>have total schizo mental break down
Anyone would have started mocking you for your obvious deflection and side step.
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>>282446731
>i don't remember him saying anything about concubines
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>>282446726
Hello Ack of course it was you.
Well time to move on I guess.
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>>282446773
>>282446795
It really is never anyone but you in these threads shitposting and having total mental break downs over people saying that you are objectively wrong for liking what you like.
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>>282446789
>loses argument
>"n-no you're losing"
delusional.
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>>282446828
Are you going to keep bumping this thread mindlessly again? it helps out but again its bad for your mental health.
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>>282446828
>>282446795
can both of you just go make out in another thread?
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>>282446793
ok, sclerosis must be finally kicking in
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>>282446840
>>282446854
I haven't bumped this thread a single time. And you are the one who can do nothing but cry and spam, bumping your own thread.
Literally your only argument is "my feelings say it's okay!!"
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>>282446919
>I haven't bumped this thread a single time.
You just did my dear bumsplut.
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Why do people hate MT now? I remember a few years ago it was universally loved.
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>>282446940
It's always so funny how easy it is to tell who you are. Because you have their brain dead mentality where you try to pretend sage doesn't exist.

>>282446950
It's always been hated by everyone but an extremely vocal minority.
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>>282446950
Well from the looks of things its just one schizo we call him ack or bumsplut who keeps ban evading every time. He does help out with bumping the thread though.
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>>282446950
People realized the perversions were not just for the story and the author himself is a creep.
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>>282446950
It just got even more famous and inevitably some of the people drawn to it would be contrarians and haters. 99% of watchers love it. The people that screech and hate it haven't even touched it
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don't know about your resident schizos itt, but
>>282446605
>You are, conceptually, splitting your time, energy and feelings between multiple people.
and they'd be fucking grateful for that. try and have one wife satisfy the compound greyrat+repressed neet libido.
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>>282446976
You are a single person. And your boogieman will never exist.
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>>282446950
it got popular with normalfags.
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>>282446991
>99% of watchers love it
Most certainly not. Normalags find things like polygami icky, which is why they turned on it.
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>>282446950
>I remember a few years ago it was universally loved.
Lol.
Lmao even.
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>>282446950
It basically is, there's just a couple faggots who hate it and make it their mission to not allow any discussion of it on /a/. When the show was actually airing they didn't try shit because they knew they'd be drowned out, but now that we're between seasons the threads are slow enough that they can blatantly samefag conversations, baiting others into replying.
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>>282447016
You're a clown.
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>>282447035
It's still very popular. You can go ahead to youtube and find normalfag reaction channels praising it. Normal people don't give a fuck about polygamy since they have a degree of separation with any show to not be personally offended by fantasy norms of all things
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>>282447083
Why do you have a total mental break down anytime someone says something negative about what you like or your fetishes. You do realize that discussion does not mean "hug box echo chamber", right?
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>>282447029
Can you imagine after season 3? People will praise it more and more.
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>>282447131
>normalfag reaction channels
And by "normal fag" you mean insane tranny leftists.
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>>282447131
I actually did watch reactions, and most of them were clearly uncomfortable with the polygamy. Very few of them viewed it positively/seriously.
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Rudeus might be a good character but he is am unloyal shit, imagine cheating on your pregnant wife.
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>>282447158
I invite you to search on jewtube "Mushoku Tensei reaction" and if you find any blue haired HRT taking tranny leftist praising it I will concede. If anything the ones that hate it are leftist trannies, I see it all the time on xitter.
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>>282447089
like water off a duck's back
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>>282447178
Autosave had nothing negative to say about it, they loved it. They're also the most normie and well-adjusted anime reactors so I trust their judgement before any others.
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>>282447232
Link some some review you think wasn't made by a deranged leftist, and I'll prove they are.
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>>282447178
Most of the ones I've seen were more uncomfortable with the cheating but by the time it ends they accepted it. The key point here, though, is "personally offended" like the one schizo ITT
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>>282447247
Yes, that's one of the exceptions. Those guys are positive about everything. I have yet to see a series they do not like or agree with.
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>>282447178
I've only watched three reaction channels and the only one that was just outright against it initially (during Season 1) was the ones who branded their channel as being Christian. By the time S2 rolled around, they'd seen the comments from S1 and more or less accepted that yeah, if everyone is a consenting adult then there's nothing actually wrong with it.

>>282447262
The only deranged leftist I've seen is Teeaboo, that fucker wouldn't stop comparing his current girlfriend to Sylphie AFTER the cucking, and it was just sickening to watch.
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>>282447132
Any time anyone says anything positive about MT you immediately chimp out bumpslut, you immediately outted yourself and began the full meltdown sadly though, it helps the thread if you could bump it without outting yourself next time. It created an illusion that we're talking to an actual person not a schizoid which improves the quality as well. Stop outting yourself and immediately replying to multiple people at the same time. That shit immidiately tells us who you are. Also I guess bringing up Yuri is a big no no
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>>282437975
>Rudy marrying Roxy is peak character development
He lost all of the redemption progress and sympathy. And by doing that he cucked the pregnant Silphy, who had to bend over backwards in order for Rudeus to escape the consequences of his actions.
>That’s not just marriage, that’s the ultimate “thank you” in life form
Getting your dick wet isn't some grand sacrifice. She took advantage of a devastated Rudeus while he did near the exact same thing his father did.
>it's fate
>Roxy was always going to end up by Rudy’s side
And that is shit. Fate and destiny making things certain is a hack's way of correcting his mistakes. They kill any stakes the story has, cheapen the story and character development. Roxy should have died in that labyrinth since Rudeus being able to sniff her out due to panty malarkey, pinpoint her location, break through multiple walls just to save her in the nick of time is fucking retarded.
Also out of all the wives, Roxy is the one who places the most value in looks, so of jer dashing hero had the visage of a slob she would not be as eager to selflessly sacrifice herself by bouncing on his dick. She would not even contemplate the idea if he looked like his old self. In this way she is the opposite of Eris and that cements her as the shittiest wife.
t. dropped it after the mana aids arc.
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>>282447247
>90k subs
How do you even find no name people like this?

And just glancing over their YouTube posts I see them doing "i have mental disorders, please praise me" posts, as well as fucking Gorge Floyd sympathy posts.
They are leftist.
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>>282447348
No, wrong, wrong.
ps the universe is determinist, destiny is literally real, everything is fated.
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>>282447400
>And just glancing over their YouTube posts I see them doing "i have mental disorders, please praise me" posts, as well as fucking Gorge Floyd sympathy posts.
how did you find THIS?
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>>282447298
You are autistic and 100% unable to read social cues. And you think other people are mad to cope with your own failures at life.
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>>282447210
I think a lot of the controversy comes from the fact that that the show tries so hard to paint him as morally righteous in the situation when he clearly isn't. He not only gets away with cheating on his pregnant wife who up until that point expected monogamy from him, but somehow parlayed it into a harem marriage while pretending to be morally superior.
The whole "I want to be faithful to my lovely devoted wife but Roxy loves me so much it's just so unfair to her that she can't be with me so I'm going to man up and marry her, not because I want two loli-sized wives, but because it's the Right Thing to do for her sake" was all a little too much.
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>>282447424
The community tab. They have mental illnesses that forces them to take breaks weeks at a time.
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>>282447443
>I think a lot of the controversy comes from the fact that that the show tries so hard to paint him as morally righteous in the situation when he clearly isn't
It doesn't. What the fuck are you even watching that makes you think it is?
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>>282447400
>mental illness is leftist now
jesus christ dude get your head check
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>>282447464
>The community tab.
the true sign of mental illness is checking the community tab
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>>282447298
Rudeus and Roxy’s relationship has always been framed as transformative, not opportunistic.
From the very beginning, Roxy isn’t just a “cute wife candidate” she’s the first person who treated Rudy as more than his past life’s failures. She taught him magic, gave him a sense of belonging, and shattered his inferiority complex about his “cursed” condition. Their bond is one of mutual growth: Roxy gave him hope, and later in the labyrinth, Rudeus repays that debt by saving her. Calling that “panty sniff plot armor” ignores that narratively, it’s closing the circle of their relationship.
And its also not a repeat of Paul’s mistakes.
Paul cheated impulsively, driven by lust, leaving Zenith and his family to clean up the mess. Rudeus doesn’t just abandon Silphy he builds a household where each wife has a clear role and is respected. Silphy is the emotional anchor and first wife, Eris the passionate fighter, and Roxy the mentor and intellectual equal. The difference is intent you see Paul chased women because he was careless; Rudy commits because he values their presence in his life.
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>>282446291
gigabased
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>>282447503
meant for >>282447348
Also cont:
Silphy actively consents.
The text makes it very clear that Silphy wrestles with the decision but ultimately chooses to share Rudy because she loves him and wants him happy. In a medieval-inspired fantasy world where polygamy exists, this isn’t betrayal but rather an arrangement that keeps the family together. Silphy bends but doesn’t break her willingness to accept Roxy actually reinforces her as the strongest and most selfless of the wives.
Roxy’s “value in looks” isn’t shallow, it’s contextual.
Roxy grew up as an outsider in her Migurd tribe, judged for her lack of telepathy. She has always admired strength, capability, and courage traits Rudeus grows into. Yes, attraction is part of it, but her decision isn’t about Rudy’s face; it’s about Rudy maturing into someone who saves, protects, and inspires others. If looks were all she cared about, she wouldn’t be risking her life alongside him in labyrinth.
And finally “Fate” isn’t a cop-out; it’s theme reinforcement.
Mushoku Tensei constantly hammers on reincarnation, destiny, and guidance by higher powers (Hitogami, Orsted, etc.). Fate isn’t there to erase stakes but to test Rudeus he still has to choose, to fight, and to grow.
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>>282447473
Being public about "bi polar disorders" (not a real thing) and begging for people to give you validation is absolutely leftist mentality.

>>282447499
Hate that your narrative was ripped apart so easily, huh?
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>>282433636
yeah when silphy showed up. if she wasn't a thieving cat and didn't steal rudy from eris and roxy everything would've been great. worst girl ruins everything who woulda guessed.
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>>282447400
see this guy is legit a schizo. he goes looking for evidence to confirm his biases (everything i don't like is leftist) instead of ever examining his bias in the first place. he probably doesn't even know he's doing it.
really disturbing and sad because his entire life is a lie built on a molehill of irrational thinking.
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>>282447536
>Hate that your narrative was ripped apart so easily, huh?
No, you're just fucking insane.
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>>282447545
>>282447557
>gets totally BTFO
>resorts to name calling, samefagging, phone posting and spam
Honestly funny.

Your narrative is wrong, there's proof you are wrong, and you hate it.
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>>282447348
>He lost all of the redemption progress and sympathy
Nah he didn't. He was mindbroken by his parents death and made a mistake that he had every excuse to exempt himself of blame. His first instinct was be honest, take responsibility for everything, leave the choice entirely to his wife, saying he'd be fine with whatever she chose, while not wanting Roxy to get the short end of the stick. How is that not the best possible option in that scenario?
>And that is shit. Fate and destiny making things certain is a hack's way of correcting his mistakes.
Fate in this story is literally just "this is the most likely outcome if you don't mess with things". Hitogami meddling so much with fate is the reason why the story didn't just end with Rudeus and Roxy in a monogamous relationship. If anything Sylphie and Eris are the mistakes
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>>282446950
the ending of s2 was shit
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>>282447631
>How is that not the best possible option in that scenario?
Because no mentally stable person would take part on polygamy. And it is an objective cheap, shallow and degenerate relationship.

>a mistake
No. A mistake is tripping on a rock and breaking a glass.
Cheating on someone and sleeping around is a choice. He was not forced into cheating. Something he does multiple times in the story as well.
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>>282447557
"This poster is delusional" should really be added to the Report Post options.
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>>282447545
this is the guy who chimps out every time I mention the cold harsh truth.
Its about family values.
there really seems to be a concentrated effort against MT and its family oriented themes as the deathcult absolutely hates the idea of people forming families and having children. the entire political purpose of the lgbt movement is designed to normalize childlessness. western birthrates are below replacement level not because 'rich people in first world countries prefer to have less kids' but because our entire society has been slowly but intentionally propped up to discourage reproduction.

people think sex is for enjoyment, for fun, for recreation. Both the state run school and the popular culture constantly reinforce this by implying that sex is about 'love' or 'enjoyment' when in reality its suppose to be about reproduction. You are taught from an early age that you should always 'use protection' as if a baby was some kind of illness or disease and if you some how 'have an accident' and make a new life, you are suppose to instantly consider killing it.

If MT was about some loser reincarnating into a fantasy world and just having a harem with 3 chicks, nobody would give a fuck. But Rudeus dares to be a responsible loving husband and father and thats dangerous for our democracy.
this is why ack who is a degenerate goes nuclear whenever this is mentioned and goes insane and thinks its left wing or whatever lol
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>>282447711
>this poster isn't giving me a safe space!! please ban them!!!
Not beating the leftist claims at all.
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Poly isn’t everything it sounds like just think about how sore you hand will be spanking all of your different daughters from all of your wives.
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>>282447400
If having mental illness makes you a leftist, then what does that make you, schizo?
Also, they are normalfags. This is how I know you don't go out much, if you meet any regular people that aren't boomers, they either give zero fucks about politics or just have the most superfluous, socially acceptable opinion about anything, and that usually leans more towards the left since that's the side of politics that often claim they're all about "good vibes", empathy, virtue signaling and shit. Normalfags love doing that shit.
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>>282447729
You can stop replying to yourself. And you will never make anyone mad. No one else in the world acts like you.

And MT will never be about family values. It is about sexual fetish pandering.
You can also stop screaming about your boogieman.
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>>282447465
It does though. It goes out of it's way to explain, multiple times, that fucking Roxy and cheating on his pregnant wife isn't Rudy's fault. Then he has to be talked into a harem marriage by Elinalise while he spends all his time arguing with her going "no no I love Sylphie and promised to be with her forever I couldn't possible have two wives because I'm a good faithful person" before he decides he just has to do it because it'd be unfair to Roxy if he didn't.
Frankly I'd respect it more if he had just outright said he wanted to have a threesome with both of them. They could've easily leaned into his sex pervert side but they deliberately avoided that because they wanted him to seem like the good guy in this situation.
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>>282447697
>And it is an objective cheap, shallow and degenerate relationship.
Historically it was practical if you reached above a certain level of wealth/status (not necessarily a noble even, it could make sense even for a wealthy farmer or merchant). Nothing wrong with it from that perspective, and it would often benefit everyone involved (easier child rearing, less pressure on any one wife to perform the wifely duties, more hands to do work in general, increased status for lowborn women and their offspring, etc).
These ideas of "degeneracy" or romance are a purely Jewish (Christian, same thing) invention.
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>>282447771
Man, that post triggered you really hard, huh? You've replied to it 4 times now. And every single time you refused to address the actual point. Which is trying to garner praise for having mental illness.
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>>282447776
Not everyone is samefagging here like you. My dear ack. You need help. But I'm glad you decided to grace us with your presence here since you are helping making MT more and more popular.
Every thread its the same, oh what fun.
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>>282447795
Polygamy being outlawed predates Christian teachings, and monogamy was practiced all over the world in independent cultures that had no contact with each other. Just accept the fact you are mentally ill and try to fix it.
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>>282446234
Hitogami is the guy that ties it all together and makes this otherwise bland harem isekai story worth reading
10/10 character. No wonder people regard Turning Point 4 as the series' peak.
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>>282447785
The story has no opinion on anything. It's viewed through Rudeus' perspective and Rudeus does not excuse himself.
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>>282447844
You are the only person in the world who thinks your boogieman is real, and the only person who talks about your boogieman. And calling yourself "us" will never make people think you're more than one person.
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>>282446674
>>282440351
kek is this true?
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>>282447776
Family is the spine of the narrative.
Rudeus’ whole character arc is defined by how he relates to family his guilt over disappointing his parents in his past life, his admiration and resentment toward Paul, the protection and nurturing he gives to his sisters, and later his deep devotion to his children. The “sexual” layer is loud and often awkward, yes but it’s surface. The substance is generational will Rudeus repeat Paul’s mistakes, or will he finally break the cycle and become a dependable father and husband?
The “fetish” elements are a delivery method, not the destination.
MT often uses crude humor, lust-driven motivations, and awkward sexuality to stay honest to Rudeus’ scummy past self. But look at how those moments are framed as the story never says “this is good.” It shows a flawed man trying to outgrow his lust and selfishness. When he fails (Eris’ bed scene, Roxy’s labyrinth rescue), there are consequences. When he succeeds (raising Lucy, protecting his family, finally confronting his regrets with Paul), the narrative rewards him. The lewdness is the mask for a much deeper story about redemption through relationships.
His wives are not fetishes, they are mirrors.
Each wife represents a different “family value” Rudeus needs to learn
Silphy is unconditional loyalty and gentle support.
Eris is raw honesty, pride, and growth through conflict.
Roxy is respect for wisdom and gratitude to those who guide you.
If this were just fetish pandering, they’d be static archetypes. But the wives develop alongside him, and the polygamy doesn’t erase family values it reframes them in a fantasy context where cooperation, not monogamy, is the test.
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>>282446950
>I remember a few years ago it was universally loved.
me when i lie
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>>282447931
>not the destination.
The final pages of the story are the "wives" dragging him to bed for a foursome. It is the literal destination of the entire story.
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>>282447776
>literally samefags
>accuses others of samefagging
this is called "projection" and i won't bother proving i'm not that guy, it should be obvious, i mean you know the truth you're just absolutely committed to being as annoying as possible.
there is no samefagging here except yours, there is just anons incredibly tired of you chimping out. please go away.
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>>282446990
People being "creeps" has never been a problem on /a/, scratch that, on 4chan.
>creep
Then again you are most likely an outsider.
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>>282448004
Considering how much the LN are selling and how it was #1 on narou for a decade and considering normalfriends are praising it non-stop over here in the west indeed it is universally loved although with bumpslut chimping out its kinda rough.
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>>282433536
Polyamory is for cucks and people who don't really love the other person
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>>282448017
>n- no u!!!
Not an argument. And you are the only person who thinks "person says thing i no liek meens they mad".
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If Orsted winds up godfathering Rudeus's kids it's going to be kino of the highest order. I'm getting the impression that's what happens.
animeonly and don't care about being spoiled, for me it's the journey, not the destination.
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>>282448054
There's no such thing as "polyamory" that's a gay term made by self-loathing cucks.
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Animeonly here, why did Rudeus never perved on her sisters? Not even a lascivious look? It looks completely out of character for him.
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>>282448005
MT is structured like a chronicle it follows Rudeus from a shut-in failure, to a flawed but functional husband and father, to an old man reflecting on his legacy. The story had already “ended” when his children’s futures were secured and his redemption was complete. The sex joke is the after-credits stinger a tonal callback to how the story began you know kinda horny, awkward comedy.
Rudeus’ real destination is parenthood, not the bedroom.
Rudy’s growth is shown not in how many wives he collects, but in how he raises Lucy, Lara, Sieg, Ars etc. By the end, he’s no longer repeating Paul’s mistakes, but ensuring his kids grow up stronger and freer than he ever was. That’s the thematic endpoint: the cycle of generational failure is broken. The bed scene doesn’t erase hundreds of chapters about family bonds and legacy.
The wives dragging him to bed represents harmony, not lust.
It’s not just about “getting laid.” It’s symbolic: the three women in his life each with their own struggles, pride, and conflicts have reconciled, found peace, and accepted their shared role in his family. What started as chaos and tension is now unity. The “harem bed” is a shorthand way of showing that the family is stable enough to laugh, tease, and coexist without bitterness.
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>>282448112
>Rudy’s growth is shown not in how many wives he collects
>The wives dragging him to bed represents harmony, not lust.
What a massive cope.
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>>282448079
>>282448081
Imagine getting this mind broken by trying to validate your fetishes over 4chan.

>>282448112
Not reading your ChatGPT copy paste.
Polygamy is objectively mental illness. The characters are only there to pander to the sexual fetishes of the author.
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>>282448108
according to bookfags he reflects on this and he's just not attracted to his sisters. i mean that's how most people feel about their siblings even if their siblings are objectively attractive.
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>>282448112
If anything it proved why he was unloved, he proved he would cheat on others
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>>282448153
You just read it though.
Also calling polygamy “mental illness” is just importing modern moral judgments into a setting that explicitly uses medieval social norms. In-universe, multiple wives are neither shocking nor treated as taboo it’s consistent world-building, not some psychiatric case study.

Reducing every character to “fetish pandering” ignores how they’re written. Silphy, Eris, and Roxy all have independent arcs, conflicts, and agency outside of sex. If it was just porn dressing, they’d be cardboard cutouts, not characters readers still argue about a decade later.

You don’t have to like the polygamy, but pretending it’s authorial kink only flattens the narrative. The harem setup is used as a lens to explore themes of loyalty, forgiveness, conflict, and family stability the “fetish” is the hook, the drama is the meat.
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>>282448112
It's awful towards the others anon, there is a reason why "nice guys" are just bad people who wish to cheat on others if they had the chance
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>>282448177
Rudeus didn’t sneak around behind Silphy’s back he talked with her, agonized over it, and only acted when she agreed. That’s the opposite of cheating. You can dislike polygamy as a concept, but in the story’s internal rules, this is a negotiated marriage, not betrayal.
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>>282448197
It's just pandering though. Meanwhile Ichigo is with his wife Orihime.
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I liked MT when I first read it, but the more time passes the less I think it holds up. It really isnt much better than any other isekai slop
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>>282448005
It's literally not. There's like, three more chapters after that, and an entire spin off in between his death and that moment
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>>282448233
Because the narrative is conveniently making those girls accepting the cucking
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>>282448160
Thanks for the info, at least it was addressed.
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>>282448197
It is a setting created by a degenerate. Its values are degeneracy.
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>>282447914
yes, it was a fucking slog to watch and I still don't know why I bothered finishing it
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>>282448241
Ichigo’s story is a shonen hero’s linear journey his romance is simple because the plot isn’t about legacy, relationships, or generational consequences. Mushoku Tensei is deliberately sprawling; the “harem” is a tool to explore growth, responsibility, and family dynamics, not just a hook for lust.
Yes, MT has sexual humor, but Ichigo’s monogamy doesn’t give his story more thematic depth. MT uses sexual situations to test character morality and maturity, not simply for titillation. The story cares about how Rudeus navigates relationships, not just that he has them.
>>282448276
The story doesn’t just hand over consent magically Silphy, Eris, and Roxy each struggle with the decision, debate among themselves, and weigh their feelings carefully. They choose to accept Rudeus’ polygamy, rather than being mindless props. That’s the narrative showing internal conflict, not convenient hand-waving.

Acceptance is earned, not arbitrary.
Rudeus consistently demonstrates growth: he protects, teaches, and prioritizes them. Their decision to stay with him reflects his efforts and reliability, not narrative laziness. In this sense, the story isn’t “making them accept” anything it’s showing a cause-and-effect: he earned trust and love.
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>>282448197
It was considered mental illness in pre-modern times as well.

>they’d be cardboard cutouts, not characters readers still argue about a decade later
They are carboard. And you trying to defend your fetishes doesn't mean the characters are "discussed".

>loyalty
Polygamy and loyalty are objectively opposites.

>family stability
He cheated on his "wives" multiple times. And he will do it again, because he's a shit person. And they will "forgive" him again, because the characters are there solely to pander to sexual gratifying fetishes.
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>>282448276
the narrative of most shounens, seinens and whatever is conveniently making the MC win against all odds.
the narrative of most mystery shows is conveniently making the detective resolve the case.

mixing in and out of world perspectives is retarded.
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>>282448336
applying modern moral ideas to a fantasy world doesn’t really work. Polygamy wasn’t considered insane in many pre-modern societies, and MT sets up a world with its own rules.

The wives aren’t just cardboard cutouts. Silphy, Eris, and Roxy all have their own personalities, conflicts, and agency that’s why people still argue about their choices years later. Loyalty in this story isn’t about monogamy; it’s about trust, honesty, and supporting each other. They stay with Rudeus because he earns their trust, not because the author waved a magic wand.

Rudeus’ past mistakes are framed with consequences. He doesn’t cheat behind anyone’s back all his relationships are negotiated with consent, which makes forgiveness earned, not just a “fetish” payoff. Sexual content is just the surface; the story’s core is about growth, family, and breaking cycles.
I guess you really hate that family aspect huh?
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STOP REPLYING TO HIM STUPID RETARDS
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>>282448324
>because the plot isn’t about legacy, relationships, or generational consequences
Are you fucking retarded? Bleach had all of those things. In fact, they were key aspects of the story.

>the “harem” is a tool to explore growth, responsibility, and family dynamics
Like how he cheated on his family, and was not response and cheated multiple times. And the "growth" of the characters was "i knew if he couldn't have sex with me he would have sex with someone else". The "growth" is literally just them accepting he will cheat on them and be unfaithful.
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>>282448399
but i'm bored?
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>>282433700
Absolutely. Bunch of anime only trannies these complainers.
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>>282448399
it's when there's no post ID.
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>>282448386
>>282448399
>>282448450
Circular logic, like always. You can't use the fetish pandering mental illness to justify the fetish pandering mental illness.

>The wives aren’t just cardboard cutouts
They are.

>He doesn’t cheat behind anyone’s back all his relationships are negotiated with consent
Objectively wrong. And again, consent does not matter. Agreed upon cheating is still cheating.

>story’s core is about growth,
Saying "i accept that he will cheat on my if i'm not around to have sex with him" is not character growth.
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>>282448402
Bleach having “legacy and generational consequences” is a joke. Half the time it’s just names getting dropped and people dying with zero meaningful impact there’s no real parenting, no household stakes, no lessons on raising the next generation. Comparing it to MT, where literally the entire arc is about Rudeus building a family, navigating loyalty, and earning trust, is pathetic.

And the whole “wives accepting cheating” argument? You clearly didn’t read. They negotiate, they struggle, they have agency. Rudeus earns their trust, manages consequences, and stabilizes a family that would’ve collapsed if it were handled like Paul’s nonsense. Calling it “just them forgiving him to get laid” is the laziest, most surface-level hot take imaginable my good bumpslut.
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gonna be honest bros. I love how common it is in this series for the female characters to watch another girl get railed. that's my oddly specific fetish. wish it was more common like it is in this series.
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>>282448455
>it's when
it's hard when
wow that was a weird typo, my brain is the stupid one.
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>>282448467
First off, saying “agreed-upon cheating is still cheating” is deliberately ignoring the story’s internal rules. MT sets up a world with polygamy as a socially accepted structure within that context, Rudeus isn’t betraying anyone; he’s operating within the boundaries everyone consented to. You can try to apply modern monogamy standards, but that’s your lens, not the story’s.

Second, calling the wives “cardboard cutouts” is just dismissive. Silphy, Eris, and Roxy all have distinct personalities, moral struggles, and conflicting desires. Their consent isn’t passive they debate, argue, and actively decide to stay with him. That does make them characters, not props.

Finally, “growth” isn’t defined by your idea of morality it’s about responsibility, trust, and stabilizing relationships. The wives’ acceptance is proof that Rudeus has matured from a selfish past self into someone capable of maintaining a complex household and caring for multiple people simultaneously. That’s actual growth, even if it involves adult situations you personally find distasteful.
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yep polyfags are definitely mentally ill
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>>282448474
does that really happen a lot in the books. that is pretty hot if so.
i would assume in a polygamous relationship unless the husband is specifically having threesomes/foursomes every night he would bed his wives separately.
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>>282448474
I dont get the appeal of having a hot girl who is left unused and bored.
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>>282448506
Calling all people who practice polygamy “mentally ill” is just an oversimplification rooted in modern monogamy norms. Polygamy has existed across cultures for thousands of years and was socially sanctioned in countless societies — that’s hardly a psychiatric issue.

In MT, polygamy is part of the worldbuilding, not a symptom of dysfunction. The story isn’t saying “poly is perfect,” it’s showing a character navigating a complex system of relationships, earning trust, and taking responsibility. Lumping it all together as “mental illness” ignores context, character growth, and agency it’s just a hot take dressed in outrage.
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>>282448470
>>282448500
Yeah, I'm not reading your ChatGPT spam.
Everything you say is wrong, and your fetishes are mental illness.
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>>282448524
its the reactions while they watch thats the hot thing
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Why are mushoku threads always filled with bots?
I'm starting to question whether discussions all these years are organic
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>>282448534
>Polygamy has existed across cultures for thousands of years
No it hasn't. At least not ones outside of shitholes like Africa.

And again, stop spamming ChatGPT replies.
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>>282448545
Keep screaming “fetish mental illness” all you want, but it doesn’t make your take valid. Dismissing hundreds of chapters of actual character growth, trust-building, and family legacy because you don’t like the sex is peak cowardice. You’re mad about content you clearly don’t understand, and calling other people mentally ill for enjoying a story makes you look even dumber.
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>>282448546
I imagine the reactions go down to zero the more you have sex in front of them
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>>282448108
Don't think about it too hard. The writing is inconsistent and Rudy goes from paragon of moral virtue to pedophile panty thief, then back again all the time. He said he didn't really consider his isekai family his real family, he wanted to fuck 8 year old Sylphie, jerked off to his isekai mom getting fucked, and talked about how much he liked sucking her tittties, but his isekai sisters which he again said he didn't consider his real family, are off limits for some reason.
It is what it is.
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>>282448579
That’s just ignorance talking. Polygamy existed even in ancient China you don’t need to cherry-pick. Dismissing it as only “shithole” behavior is just a modern moral judgment, not a historical fact.
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@282448579
dumb faggot doesn't even know the history of tribal cultures let alone the feudal/victorian concept of mistresses
probably an incel as well.
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>>282448534
>In MT, polygamy is author fetish, he put it in the story because it's a work of fiction and that's what he wanted to see because he's a haremcuck
fify
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>>282444658
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>>282448625
It existed literally everywhere, it wasn't until Judaism that monogamy even became a concept.
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>>282448652
Calling it ‘author fetish’ doesn’t make it shallow it just makes you mad that someone actually wrote a story you can’t reduce to a Twitter hot take.”
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>>282448590
knowing myself i'd be quick to turn bitter and give up on the arrangement
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>>282448692
It is a work of fiction. All contents are fictional, and come from the mind of the author. There is no point in talking about the made up world as if it were a real thing outside of the context of "this exists because the author wanted it to exist"
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>>282448674
Wait till he hears about the Norse, especially chieftains and wealthy men which was tied to social status as more wives meant more alliances, more heirs, and more labor.
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>>282448730
MT is fiction, and yes, the author chose what to include but that doesn’t mean it lacks meaning or internal logic. Every story, no matter how fictional, operates under its own rules. Evaluating the world within the context of its own narrative is how we analyze character growth, plot, and themes
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>>282448746
The norse were degeneate subhumans: snow edition.
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>>282448746
it was really more a tribal thing not just a norse thing.
naturally the strongest man of the tribe would take many wives. one of the great normalizing influences of christianity (which preaches peace) is the equitable distribution of wives (monogamy, and marriage being a prerequisite to sex).
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>>282448746
>siring more serfs to tend to the fields for your harem
>then making them waste time fighting over your legacy
manly
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>>282448821
Correct. Polygamy is incredibly destructive to society.
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>>282448821
peak alpha energy. You’re building your legacy, securing your household, and creating a system where everyone has a stake in the family’s success. You’re not just living for yourself you’re expanding influence, cultivating loyalty, and ensuring your line thrives. Let them fight over the inheritance that’s how strong dynasties are forged, blood for the blood god.
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We're in the week before the next anime season, so I guess the two MT-regulars will keep replying to ack unironically.
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>>282448852
this is all really cool in video games and fiction
in real life it's not cool. thankfully MT is not real life, MT is comfy harem fiction time.
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>giving nicknames for the haters of a show you like
I will never fathom this level of mental illness
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>>282448898
Under the same circumstances as MT a world with magic, long lifespans, clearly defined social rules, and enforced consent a setup like Rudeus’ could actually function. Everyone knows the boundaries, conflicts are manageable, and resources (magical or otherwise) support the household. In that environment, multiple partners cooperating for a shared family and legacy isn’t just feasible it’s stable and even rewarding for everyone involved.
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>>282433536
Roxy won, eris and sylphy dorobou nekos lost
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Harem is for thirdworlders
>Deny women to other men so you get more autistic babies with all the inbreeding
>Daughters grow up finding men gross because they literally have no care nor love for their biological mother and are forced to coexist with other hags
>No real union, father just collects, don't feel nor dedicate time to his kids
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In Monogatari, Araragi cheats on his girlfriend with loli's, but I don't ever see anyone making a big deal about it. Why is this so different?
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>>282448978
because I already told you there really seems to be a concentrated effort against MT and its family oriented themes as the deathcult absolutely hates the idea of people forming families and having children. the entire political purpose of the lgbt movement is designed to normalize childlessness. western birthrates are below replacement level not because 'rich people in first world countries prefer to have less kids' but because our entire society has been slowly but intentionally propped up to discourage reproduction.

people think sex is for enjoyment, for fun, for recreation. Both the state run school and the popular culture constantly reinforce this by implying that sex is about 'love' or 'enjoyment' when in reality its suppose to be about reproduction. You are taught from an early age that you should always 'use protection' as if a baby was some kind of illness or disease and if you some how 'have an accident' and make a new life, you are suppose to instantly consider killing it.

If MT was about some loser reincarnating into a fantasy world and just having a harem with 3 chicks, nobody would give a fuck. But Rudeus dares to be a responsible loving husband and father and thats dangerous for our democracy.
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>>282448961
TRVTH NVKE
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>>282448978
does that araragi guy even have sex? as in, it's absolutely understood that he had sex with those monogatari chicks, or is it just the same harem comedy shenanigans like in love hina and other old shows?
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>>282448961
That criticism falls apart when you actually look at the story. In MT, the harem isn’t some lazy “collect everyone and hope it works” setup Rudeus genuinely cares for his wives, negotiates boundaries, and raises his children with attention and guidance. The daughters don’t grow up damaged; the family functions because everyone respects each other and the world’s rules support it. It’s not about inbreeding or neglect it’s a story exploring responsibility, trust, and legacy in a fantasy context where the system actually works.
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>>282448947
not really, it would require at minimum a sex distribution of 75% female to 25% male. monogamy is predicated on the strange-but-true ratio of nearly 50/50 male/female ratio in every society that does not intentionally cull the sexes (such as leaving unwanted sons/daughters to die of exposure, which did happen in some societies).
if we had a truly polygamous society then a small subset of men would control all the wives while the rest are nothing. there is a society like this, it's middle eastern shitholes where men are tricked into sacrificing themselves. we should not want a theocracy like that.
The Millis cult is unironically correct and I am sure if given time they will eventually prevail, just as Christianity prevailed in pagan Europe.
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for a brownskin, ack really loves to talk about muslims a lot in mt threads.
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>>282449063
In MT, the harem works because the circumstances are completely different from the real world. Magic, long lifespans, and clearly defined social rules let resources, attention, and consent be managed so that everyone in the household thrives. The sex ratio problem, power imbalances, and scarcity issues you mention don’t exist the system is sustainable because the world is designed to support it. Under those conditions, multiple partners cooperating for family, legacy, and mutual growth is not only feasible, it’s stable and narratively satisfying.
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Good animation wasted on an insufferably bad script.
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>>282448338
The problem is that the in-world narrative immediately established that Rudy considered cheating a morally repugnant act in the first few episodes, and he continually brings up every time his father is mentioned. The mom clearly sees it as a breach of their marriage, feels betrayed, and debates sending Lilia away forever because of it. Paul is constantly referred to as a scumbag by all his party members because he was an unfaithful fuckboy in his youth. All the characters are shocked by Elinalise's constant whoring. Sara expected a monogamous relationship from Rudy. Roxy's parents are monogamous. Sylphie's parents are monogamous. Eris's parents are monogamous, although her father is depicted cheating at one point (and the story makes it clear that it's a bad thing). Sylphie gets sad when she realizes Rudy had had sex with someone else. So on. So forth.
There is never even the slightest hint that polygamy is a thing in that world. Everything about the series indicates that monogamy is the expected norm of their world until they retconned it to being a Milis religion thing and gave him a harem within 2 episodes.
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>a thread where chatbots reply to each other
Nice thread
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>>282433636
>>282433536
The problem isn't the polygamy, it's that Roxy turns from a strong, independent adventurer and friend to Rudy's passive secondary dickwarmer. And it happens almost as soon as she shows up. He rescues her in the labyrinth, she's immediately in love with him, there's a tiny amount of dungeoning, he gets sad and she bones him, then they're married. There's no Roxy arc.
>b-but her fantasy romance
Yes, I know. This still sucks.
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>>282433746
Mentally ill feminists are angry that a series that panders to men is successful.
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>>282449010
>family oriented themes
>the deathcult absolutely hates the idea of people forming families and having children.
As you're defending Mushoku, try cheating on your pregnant wife and see how well that works out in real life, kek and you retards constantly talk about Mushoku being about "loyalty, trust and responsibility"
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>>282449138
what would you really define as an arc? because if what you care about is some volumes where the mc is mainly with her, then that would be season 4 stuff.
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>>282449129
Rudy isn’t “cheating” because the story establishes consent and religious context that differentiate his actions from Paul’s or other unfaithful characters. Unlike Paul, who broke trust and betrayed monogamous expectations, Rudeus’ relationships are negotiated, consensual, and conducted openly that’s why Sylphie, Eris, and Roxy all remain willing participants rather than victims.

Asurans explicitly allow polygamy, which creates an in-world moral and legal framework that overrides the default monogamous norms set in Millis society. The narrative even shows this system working elsewhere, like Ariel’s reverse harem, proving that in the Asuran context, multiple partners can coexist without the betrayal or chaos.

In short, Rudeus isn’t acting immorally he’s operating under a structured system that legitimizes his relationships, making his harem fundamentally different from cheating.
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>>282449106
you're saying that the specific circumstances of Rudeus's household would work because (without citing anything specific) the world of MT is geared to allow it to work. you are making a classical error in reasoning. there's nothing to suggest the MT world is as equitable as you describe. starvating, disease, and privation are the norm in that world. Rudeus lives in a particular social strata where the standard of living is very high (the Ranoa Kingdom). the university and surrounding township could be one of the most desirable places to live, period. Rudeus has a veritable palace while other people on the same continent have been reduced to poverty.
you shouldn't assume just because life is super comfy for Rudeus, that it represents some sort of mythical standard that is never alluded to. it's quite obvious that Rudeus's situation is not normal by any means, nor are harems.
is it certainly entertaining but it is by no means normal, the situation in MT is complex and dynamic and mirrors real world inequities quite well. A story about starving people on the Demon Continent is boring, MT is about Rudeus which is why we see Rudeus living the good life not the starving beggars who aren't.
here is a screenshot where one person is enjoying life and one person is at the bottom of the barrel.
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>>282449158
Rudeus doesn’t “cheat” in-universe; all his relationships are consensual and structured under the Asuran rules. Loyalty, trust, and responsibility are what allow him to maintain a functioning family despite the harem setup exactly the opposite of Paul’s unfaithful chaos.
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>>282446950
Season 1 was good and that's about it. Every season after has been shit
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>>282449298
Rudeus’ household only functions the way it does because he occupies an extremely privileged stratum of society, and the story doesn’t pretend otherwise. The world of MT is harsh for most people, with starvation, disease, and poverty rampant, and the series shows glimpses of that outside Ranoa Kingdom. His “comfy life” is not a universal standard, it’s a product of his status, intelligence, and magical ability.
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>>282433536
>Gotta Fuck 'Em All
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>>282447864
You really are on the wrong board you fucking christcuck faggot. Now go back to praying for Israel.
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Just popping in to say that this one dude who fucking spergs out about Rudy "cheating" by having multiple wives is the one that convinced me to actually watch MT, and I'm loving it. I'm about halfway through S2 and Rudy finally figured out Sylphie was a girl again. Fucking slow burn romance hurts bros. Get it Rudy. Seduce the elf. YOU CAN DO IT BROTHER!
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You forgot to add the biggest TRVTH NVKE
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>>282449310
>Rudeus doesn’t “cheat” in-universe;
Well yeah MT is bland fantasy entirely centered around being a self insert harem. Of course the author came up with ways to justify it.
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>>282449393
you can thank me for that usually I have to oil up bumpslut real good for him to start sperging out, although this time he's doing it for free.
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>>282449217
Please respond to me with your own words instead of AI that doesn't even get basic context right.
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>>282449421
Claiming MT is just a harem is like calling LOTR ‘just about rings’ and thus missing the point entirely
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>>282449412
BASED
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>>282449348
are you >>282449106
if so i don't know why you're changing your argument to mirror mine, just take the L.
>The sex ratio problem, power imbalances, and scarcity issues you mention don’t exist
They LITERALLY EXIST, Rudeus's household is an aberration ffs.
anyway i'll just stop there because dishonest argumentation is the norm on 4chan.
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>>282439930
douzo
https://files.catbox.moe/q7fr02.pdf
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>>282445586
Contrarian 4chan christcucks have infested this website since 2016 there's no way you haven't noticed.
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>>282449507
There’s nothing wrong with Rudeus’ household because it works perfectly within the rules of his world. The sex ratio, social privilege, and resources all exist to make it sustainable, and every relationship is consensual and managed responsibly. it’s exactly why it functions. In MT, nothing about his harem or family setup breaks the narrative or the world and is fully supported by circumstance, consent, and careful management.
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Every complaint about polygamy in this thread comes from literal spastics who can't grasp the idea that just because many ancient cultures accepted polygamy didn't mean it was practiced by everyone in that culture. In the real world it was always mainly the prerogative of men of enough status and wealth, just as it is in the world of MT.
Of course this is nearly impossible to understand for people with this brand of autism, they think "society allows polygamy" directly translates to "every person in that society is in a polygamous marriage" and their brains just implode since that obviously doesn't work with a normal sex ratio.
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Nice
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>>282449445
In the world of MT, the Asuran nobility is explicitly depicted as a social class where polygamy is not only accepted but often expected for strategic, political, and social reasons. Unlike the common folk, who struggle with starvation, disease, and extreme resource scarcity, Asuran nobles occupy a tier of society where wealth, influence, and magical power allow them to maintain multiple households and partners without causing societal collapse. This isn’t “fanservice” or random harem pandering it’s a reflection of how a highly stratified society functions when the upper echelon has the means to consolidate power, secure alliances, and produce heirs safely.

Polygamy among the Asuran nobility serves several purposes. First, it’s a tool for political and social stability. Marriages and concubines are often arranged to bind powerful families together, extend influence, and ensure loyalty across regions. A single noble might have multiple wives or consorts, each with clearly defined rights, responsibilities, and spheres of influence, which mirrors real-world historical examples in various empires where elite men maintained multiple households.

Second, it allows for lineage management and resource optimization. In a world with magic and long lifespans, producing capable heirs who can inherit magical knowledge or leadership roles is a practical concern. Multiple partners ensure that the family line continues even if one branch fails, and children can be trained, educated, and positioned strategically. Because the Asuran nobility has access to wealth, labor, and magical resources, the logistical and social pitfalls of polygamy that plague ordinary citizens are almost entirely mitigated.
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>>282449514
>https://files.catbox.moe/q7fr02.pdf
I'm an animeonly because reading this crap would be a chore.
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>>282448625
>>282448648
>>282448674
>>282448746
>>282449412
The samefagging is so stupidly obvious.
It's also funny how you always try to pretend that niche cases of war savage tribes are proof polygamy is good.

And how in Chine women were forced to the the wives of the emperor. Not because they wanted to, but because one guy abused his status.
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>>282449645
Polygamy is normalized, and ethical guidelines consent, property rights, and succession rules are firmly codified. This creates a system where everyone involved understands their role and where betrayal, jealousy, or mismanagement is minimized through strict adherence to social norms.
Rudeus’ household can be seen as an extension of this logic. While he exists in a particularly privileged slice of society (the Ranoa Kingdom, with high standards of living and access to magical infrastructure), the mechanisms that make his harem functional are not random. They reflect the same principles that allow Asuran nobles to maintain multiple wives or partners with wealth, privilege, clearly defined rules, and mutual consent.
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>>282449622
based
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>>282449615
Rudeus cheated on his pregnant wife with a manipulative adult that used him to satisfy her own selfish desires.
His wife had no say whatsoever when it came to the arrangement that followed, and only got the equivalent of a sucker punch from it because she expected better from her husband.
I'm not sure where this le polygamy is ancient culture bullshit is coming from, but it's only being used to make the Rudeus and Roxy shitshow sound acceptable.
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I think you guys are missing the point. It's not about whether polygamy is good or bad. It's about whether or not there's a cute elf, and what you have to do to ensure you marry her at any cost.

Is there no cute elf? Then, it's not worth it. Is there a cute elf? Marry her. It's that simple.
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>>282448895
>>282449010
>>282449106
This ass clown is literally just spamming ChatGPT copy/pastes and trying to pretend he's making valid points.
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>>282449769
i prefer the chat gpt spam over your cringe ass coping and seething over not being able to separate fiction and reality because at least i haven't seen that before
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>>282449217
>>282449645
>>282449704
>>282449615
Honest question. How do you not feel retarded for acting like this.

And again, your (ChatGPT's) logic is entirely circular.
You can't use the fictional story's rules to justify the moral standing in the story itself.
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>>282449753
That framing isn’t accurate to the story. Rudeus doesn’t cheat at all of his relationships are framed with consent and negotiation under the Asura system. The adult you’re referring to isn’t acting outside the rules of the world either; she’s part of a system where adult, consensual arrangements are allowed. His “wife” isn’t a victim of betrayal because the harem isn’t imposed on her she actively consents and negotiates her place in the household, which is very different from being blindsided or manipulated.

The story contrasts Rudeus’ situation with the failures of monogamous figures like Paul precisely to highlight growth, responsibility, and trust. What you’re calling “making it sound acceptable” isn’t moral handwaving it’s the narrative establishing a functioning social framework where multiple partners can coexist without ethical violations. In that context, Rudeus’ relationships aren’t a “shitshow,” they’re an exploration of how consent, negotiation, and communication allow a complex household to operate in a way that would otherwise be impossible.
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>>282449615
No the problem is the world of MT made exactly zero references to polygamy until the precise moment that it became convenient for the main character to get his harem.
>mainly the perogative of men of status and wealth
We've seen several noble households at this point. None ever mentioned polygamy. All the relationships we've encountered were monogamous. Cheating is universally shown to be a bad thing every time it happens in world. Everyone thinks Paul is a piece of shit because he fucked around all the time. Everyone thinks Elinalise is a whore and everyone except the one cuck Cliff thinks it's a bad thing. Even the fucking Demon tribe on the other side of the continent on the other side of the world is monogamous lol. The author is just a shitty writer who pussied out when it came time to make Rudy choose a girl.
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>>282449811
That critique is missing the difference between internal logic and real-world morality. When discussing a story, it’s perfectly valid to evaluate actions according to the rules of the fictional world that’s literally how any narrative analysis works. You’re not saying “it’s okay in real life”; you’re saying “given the context, consent, and rules the story establishes, the characters’ actions make sense and aren’t morally wrong within that universe.”

It only becomes circular if you pretend the story is supposed to mirror real-world ethics perfectly. Fictional worlds exist to explore concepts that might be impossible or impractical in real life and analyzing morality within the story’s own framework isn’t cheating, it’s basic narrative reasoning.
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>>282449793
>>282449812
Of course you prefer your own shitposting over people not giving you a safe space.

>not being able to separate fiction and reality
This will never be an argument no matter how many times you repeat yourself. It doesn't matter that it's fiction, it still clearly shows what type of person you are that you support mental illness.
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so, you can actually use chat gpt to automate shitposts on 4chan?
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>>282449846
You're wrong, ChatGPT (copy and pasted by Austin.
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>>282449830
Characters like Ariel and other noble figures are shown managing multiple partners or harems, which sets a precedent in-universe. Rudeus’ harem isn’t a sudden, unearned exception; it’s an extension of a social system that already functions elsewhere in the world. The narrative is consistent and elite households formalize what’s already possible, giving Rudeus the framework to maintain multiple relationships responsibly.
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>>282449704
I don't think polygamy is even normalized in MT. It's more like it's decriminalized, it doesn't have a legal status. Marriages are portrayed to be somewhat common law (aside from the stipulation that Rudeus have a house BEFORE marrying which could just be common sense, ie don't get married in poverty).
The Millis church takes a hardline stance against it because they want a monogamous world.
bookfags please correct me if I'm wrong.

>>282449755
this as well, cute elfs are made for marriage and plapping
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>>282449878
The key issue here is understanding the difference between in-universe logic and real-world morality. Fictional worlds are deliberately constructed with their own rules, social structures, and moral frameworks. When we evaluate actions within that universe, we’re not saying they’re okay in real life we’re assessing whether they make sense given the rules the story establishes. This is basic literary reasoning.
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>>282449769
fucking kek
it's true
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>>282449150
>Feminists
Lol
Lmao even
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>>282449913
in Asura, polygamy is normalized among the nobility. While it’s true that Milis church prefers monogamy and is very strict about it they're not Asura, the aristocratic and upper-class social structures in Asura allow multiple wives or consorts as an accepted practice. It’s codified socially and culturally, even if not universally enforced legally
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>>282449916
the total lack of grammatical errors and the vacuous feeling of the post strongly suggests this is in fact ChatGPT
the world of having a conversation online is really over, it's all bots and cringe-ass shitters copypasting bots.
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>>282434009
this, they don't like it yet they continue shitting on it when all they can do is just ignore it
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>>282449969
And btw In MT, the contrast between Asura and Millis is one of the clearest ways the story explores social norms, morality, and how systems shape personal relationships. While both societies exist on the same continent, their cultures, legal structures, and approaches to family and marriage are fundamentally different, which directly affects how characters like Rudeus navigate their lives.

Asura is a society where the nobility and upper classes operate under a set of norms that allow polygamy, concubinage, and strategic family alliances. Among Asuran nobles, multiple wives or consorts are fully normalized, these arrangements are socially accepted and carefully structured as each partner has defined responsibilities, inheritance rights, and household roles. Polygamy here serves political, economic, and social purposes, ensuring the stability of noble houses, the continuity of heirs, and the management of resources. Consent, negotiation, and social etiquette are emphasized, and the system is stable because it exists alongside extreme privilege and abundant resources. Among commoners, polygamy is rare or impractical, but in the noble strata, it’s just another accepted facet of life.

Millis, by contrast, represents a society with rigid moral and religious codes that enforce monogamy as the ideal. The Milis church actively promotes single-partner unions and regards cheating or multiple simultaneous partnerships as morally corrupt. Marriage here is framed as a spiritual and ethical duty, and deviations are strongly discouraged or condemned. Even among the wealthy or elite, the Milis faith imposes social pressures that make polygamy nearly impossible, and characters navigating relationships within Millis society must do so carefully to avoid scandal or moral censure.
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>>282449979
she cute
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>>282449979
I'm going to marry her, impregnate her, and then marry her sister after fucking her because I was wallowing in my depression.
She would understand.
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>>282446693
Not an argument
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>>282433727
Anime has a lot of tourists at the moment
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>>282450012
Luckily I'm an exception in the sea of online noise because what I'm saying is genuinely smart and thoughtful. Most posts are shallow, repetitive, or just copy-pasted, but my points show real insight and critical thinking that’s why they stand out.
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>>282446503
I'm never going to stop being disgusted by people that define their entire morality by consent
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>>282450051
Norn would never agree to it but Aisha wouldn't mind I'm sure.
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>>282449881
>>282449916
>>282449969
>>282450028
>>282450025
>can only spam ChatGPT copy/pastes and cry that people should be giving him a safe space
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>>282450100
your posts sound like cringe bot shit, faggot.
i guess i finally understand why normies hate AI.
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>>282450104
Stop crying about safe spaces and ‘copy-paste’ posts polygamy in MT works because the world is built to support it. Consent, negotiation, and resource management turn what would be chaos in real life into fully functional, meaningful households. The harem isn’t fanservice; it’s a system for exploring responsibility, trust, and family dynamics that monogamy alone could never capture in this universe.
In MT, polygamy is actually better than monogamy because the world is structured to make it functional and meaningful. Wealth, magical resources, and social systems allow multiple partners to coexist without betrayal, neglect, or scarcity. Each partner has agency, clear expectations, and defined roles, so relationships are deep, cooperative, and resilient. Monogamy, by contrast, doesn’t offer the same flexibility — a single failure or absence can break the household, whereas polygamous arrangements distribute responsibility and support across multiple adults.

In short, in the context of MT’s privileged, structured society, polygamy isn’t just acceptable it’s the optimal system for trust, family growth, and long-term stability.
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>>282450139
just drivel
fuck i hope these people piss off before the next season starts
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>>282449811
>You can't use the fictional story's rules to justify the moral standing in the story itself.
Morals don't even enter into it. That's what makes it an interesting story to begin with, Rudy is a piece of shit. He becomes less of a piece of shit as the story progresses, becomes more human. He's never perfect though.
But admittedly past a certain point in the story (after the Oldeus reveal) all of this personal development and nuanced storytelling gets thrown out the window completely just to have escalating power level wankery and a perfect harem reward for Rudy. At that point the story just becomes trash.
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>>282443448
Based
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>>282450170
What prompts are you putting in GPT to make these posts?
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>>282434009
>>282434807
>>282450098
>Tourists and faggots hate MT
kek, this cope again. MT is a normie anime. a normie LN. and a normie WN. in a way you're the real tourist if you don't know that.
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>>282443384
You have GOT to be trolling with that take
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>>282450180
it's gonna be worse isn't it
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>>282450217
MT isn’t just fluff for casual viewers; it’s a story that rewards engagement with its world and logic. If you’re approaching it only looking for surface-level harem content, you’re the tourist missing all the depth the series actually offers.
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>>282449393
That's why we call him bumpslut
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>>282450230
Considering what's left to adapt, its gonna be worse both in terms of the show itself and the coping and shit flinging.
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>>282450253
>Erm, actually people who don't like my favorite show are le stupid, 'mkay?
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>>282450139
This thread is a lot like what the old internet was like all the time. People who are actually passionate enough about a series they're watching to argue with each other, with a mixture of schizos screeching in-between. It's kinda comfy. Although I wish the schizo would use his own words instead of AI.
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>>282450314
This is what I'm saying. You don't see this passion outside of the Eva threads here.
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>>282446950
twitter tourists
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>>282450291
>>282449393
>>282449434
>we
You are a single person.

The one bumping the thread is literally you. Spamming copy pastes from ChatGPT.
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>>282450224
No, I'm being completely serious. No one can forgive Rudeus except the person he wronged.
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I just wish Maplestar did some MT scenes, but I guess the show is too degenerate even for him.
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>>282450341
>>282450339
>>282450314
What passion? All I see is a mentally ill loser trying to glorify his fetishes.
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is ack going to switch from accusing everyone of being akemi who is protected by troid to everyone being chatgpt users now?
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>>282450191
The perception of “power scaling” in MT is mostly overblown because the series isn’t actually a battle-focused story. There are very few fights compared to the total narrative, and most conflicts are social, magical, or strategic rather than brute-force showdowns.
Look at the Shirone arc and Zanoba’s development there’s literally no power wankery involved.
Anyone claiming there’s “power wankery” in MT is straight-up lying or projecting shonen tropes onto a story that doesn’t work that way and saying random shit that doesn't make any sense at all.
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>>282450369
Are you ever going to get over your mentally ill obsession with your boogieman?
And you are the only person who refuses to type your tripcode correctly.
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>>282450217
>normie
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>>282450367
What you’re calling “fetish glorification” completely misses the point in MT, polygamy isn’t about Rudy’s personal desires, it’s about how a functional household works in a world built to support it with clearly defined roles, and social structures make multiple partners not only possible but optimal for stability, trust, and shared responsibility. Rudy isn’t a “mentally ill loser” in-universe; he’s navigating a society and a system that allows polygamous arrangements to function without betrayal or shallow relationships.

Polygamy in MT isn’t sexual pandering, it’s worldbuilding applied consistently: the Asuran nobility do it, the Milis faith codifies exceptions, and the story shows it can produce meaningful, cooperative relationships. Calling it fetishizing is just ignoring the context that makes it work.
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>>282443384
>>282450224
>>282450357
To expand on this and explain just how deft Sylphie is: she in one stroke forgives her cheating husband, and also extends shelter and a home to the woman who instigated the cheating no doubt BECAUSE Rudeus sincerely approached Sylphie with his proposal to expand the household to two wives. after Norn's meltdown Sylphies response is incredibly sweet. Sylphie is really the rock, the foundation that Rudeus's household is built on. without her it wouldn't work. Imagine if Eris was his first wife and he tried to bring Sylphie or Roxy into it. it would not work because Eris would flatly reject them. she would veto the motion.
Only Sylphie has the grace, restraint, and charity to make it work. And without that grace and charity, Hitogami would have won, again. Sylphie is not just the bedrock of Rudeus's happy domesticity, she is literally the savior of the Six-Sided World.
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>>282450343
You just responded to as many different people as Rudy has wives. lmfao
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>>282450449
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>>282450466
Your easily faked screen shots will never be proof of anything.
It's even more funny when you take screen shots showing you're using 4chanX, which has the fature to remove "(You)s".
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>has brain rot from both being a porn addict AND from using AI to think for him
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>>282450513
oh my dear bumpslutty how savagely you're getting played. And would you look at that we're at bump limit. We gotta reach 600 work hard.
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>>282450466
>Imagine if Eris was his first wife and he tried to bring Sylphie or Roxy into it. it would not work because Eris would flatly reject them. she would veto the motion.
now that's another kind of projection.
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>>282450513
>Your easily faked screen shots will never be proof of anything.
Wait a minute, this style of posts looks really, really fucking familiar. Don't fucking tell me. There's no way. Are you that guy from Boston? If I say the words, "$11 in bank account guy", do you know who I am?

KEK. There is no fucking way.
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>>282450404
>The perception of “power scaling” in MT is mostly overblown because the series isn’t actually a battle-focused story.
Towards the end its all power scaling faggotry, everything is Rudy in his golem and magic gatling gun and Eris spamming Sword of Light. Everyone else is either forgotten, babysitting Rudy's kids, or helping build more golems for Rudy to wreck.
This is the novels of course, and there's still hope that the anime does a better job. I hope Rifujin himself either isn't too involved in the anime writing, or has enough sense to see that his shitty WN that he was probably forcing himself to shit out a chapter every day off for years isn't really consistent or that well structured. With the anime money and the time that is naturally involved in that process, there's no excuse to not touch up the writing.
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>>282450541
>>282450547
Why do you keep trying to pretend easily faked screen shots are proof of anything?
Why do you try to pretend sage doesn't exist?
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>>282450589
Dude if it really is you from the "scapegoat" threads on /pol/ I'm going to fucking die laughing.
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>>282450548
i wouldn't say no
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>>282448591
When you put it like that it actually makes sense, to him Sylphie and Zenith were people he just met but were sexually alright, but he knew her sisters since they were actually born. Of course you could make the argument that he didn't exactly saw how they grew and should still see them sexaully, but there's a difference still.
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>>282450623
Must suck knowing how badly you fucked up your life.
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>>282450543
Is there anything to suggest Eris would be cool with sharing Rudeus? Her actions before she leaves certainly don't; after she returns her hand is already forced as he is married with two wives. If she wants to be with him she has to accept that he's already married twice over.
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>>282450580
The notion that supporting characters are “forgotten” is quite superficial. Tasks like babysitting children, managing golem production, or supervising the household are not mundane filler they reflect the story’s consistent emphasis on systemic responsibility and social infrastructure. MT isn’t about a single protagonist steamrolling opponents; it’s about a highly stratified world where competence, coordination, and negotiation determine success. The supporting cast’s activities reinforce worldbuilding, demonstrate the consequences of Rudy’s influence, and ensure that his “harem + household” system remains sustainable.
The later arcs, even when featuring magical combat, continue to explore the same themes which they were exploring before and again there are very few actual fight scenes compared to the total narrative. Most of Rudy’s challenges revolve around social negotiation, magical research, household management, political maneuvering, and ethical decision-making. The large-scale battles with golems or flashy spells are rare exceptions and not the norm. Although considering you don't read the novel and simply parrot what you hear in these threads its not that surprising.
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>>282450692
That's... not a denial that you're the guy who posts those "scapegoat" threads and replies over a 100 times. To think you'd be here on this board too sperging out about MT is like a gourmet, delicious treat for me. Lmfao. L M F A O.
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>>282450749
Wait what does he post on /pol/ again?
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>>282450749
Not humoring a mentally ill person doesn't imply anything.
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Was this an entire thread for the same schizo to samefag 1 billion times while retards argue with him for the #23139021930 time? Holy fuck
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>>282450623
way to admit you post on /pol/ which is itself, pretty pathetic. i've gone over there like 3 times in the last 5 years and it's been an unmitigated shitshow each time.
worst board on the site.
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>>282450800
Thread had actual discussion and it was fun until ack activated his autism because he lost all the arguments.
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>>282450824
You will never make anyone think you're boogieman is real.
Spamming ChatGPT copy/paste will never mean you "win".
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>>282450774
If you search on 4plebs "scapegoat" or with the image hash "sSIKPdIK1KA0QZBLZtxrZg" you'll find some of his threads. I'm like 99% sure this is the same guy. He drops like 80+ replies in his own threads and never gives an inch.

That little line he did of "Your screenshots don't prove anything" is exactly the same shit he's said to me before. Of all the places to find him again, MT threads? Holy fuck bros.
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>>282450729
>Tasks like babysitting children, managing golem production, or supervising the household are not mundane filler they reflect the story’s consistent emphasis on systemic responsibility and social infrastructure.
But those tasks are mostly just implied. There are no PoV chapters from these characters later on. Its just non-stop fighting.
You can argue that it makes sense given where he took the story and that's fine. I just think where he took the story is stupid. I'm not even saying that's anything except my personal view on the subject, I just happen to hate high-stakes, save the world, high fantasy narratives. I prefer grounded stories, and early to middle parts of MT was perfect in that regard. A good mix of slice of life, adventures and romance.
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>>282450859
Thanks gonna look into it.
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>>282450790
Implications were never your strong suit.
>>282450808
I use it mainly as a news source, however, if this sperg who haunts these threads is in fact the same sperg I know from there, bros, I think I'm gonna piss myself laughing. What a fucking development. KEK
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>>282450704
Eris has the same opinion of Rudeus as she has of her own grandfather. A great respectable man who has a great libido who will fuck many girls.
The only thing that Eris would prefer would be his first wife, but not his only wife. Thinking that Eris, a nobleborn lady who has spend her childhood around her beastgirl servant-fucking father and grandfather would have a problem with a man fucking another woman is ludicrous.
Especially when she even wants Rudeus to fuck a beastgirl slave in front of her.
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>>282450896
This is one of his other hashes.
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I still have a few of them saved in a little tab group but it'd be a pain to dig them up again. Happy hunting anon
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>>282450800
The guy using ChatGPT to argue with the schitzo had the right idea. Him not understanding that harem can be something other than a fetish in a story set in an alternate world, makes using AI to argue with him completely justified. He isn't worth the effort to argue with correctly.

Anyway, Roxy is my favorite wife, but I think Sylphy was the most important to Rudeus' character.
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>>282450965
That's a fucking great image anon, saved. kek
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>>282450867
It’s painfully obvious that you haven't actually read the LN. Arguing as if MT is nonstop power wank and meaningless fanservice is ridiculous and sure as hell I doubt most people who've watched 2 entire seasons would believe you.
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>>282433536
Mormons be like "I don't see what the big deal is"
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>>282433636
Fpbp
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>>282450989
It took a while to find the right one for the post.
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>>282450933
Having servants/slaves/concubines you fuck is a bit different than marrying three women.
Imagine Eris marries Rudeus. Then Rudeus wants to marry, not just fuck but MARRY another woman. Eris is hot-blooded, temperamental, and possessive. I don't think she'd be ok with it.
I think she'd be fine is Rudeus wanted to fuck catgirls or miggers heck she would probably join in, but she would not be ok with suddenly giving up half her share of the wife role to another woman, voluntarily. She's basically the opposite of Sylphie in that regard, which is why Sylphie being his first wife is so fundamentally important.
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>>282451110
Dude if it really is you, I’m the guy that posted a screenshot of my bank account and you replied with that exact same BS about how my screenshot must be fake and I must be funded by billionaires. Like I’ve told you before, I don’t have any ill will toward you, but Jesus Christ man you really get around on this website
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>>282451110
you're a fucking psycho man
rope yourself
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>>282446291
>brings corporate culture and wageslave morality into a fantasy world
>introduces such culinary nightmares as raw egg over rice
Truly grim.
I've tried the raw egg thing, and it tastes like snot mixed with onions sauce.
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>>282451067
Eris doesn't care one bit about sharing any kind of wife role, which is mainly stuff like cooking and cleaning. What she wants is Rudeus's dick, and she fully expects him to be like her beloved grandpa. At most, Eris would simply have said for having the other wives to call themselves concubines, if at all.
But none of the three wives, green/white, blue or red, would be against him taking another chick to bed and make children with them.
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>>282451067
Eris only accepted it as she didn't have a choice at the time she returned. She incorrectly thought she already claimed Rudy, but was obviously mistaken. She did accept the situation was what it was and even gave Rudy an out with the duel.
There is a reason why she defers to Slyphy in nearly all household issues, she respects the rights of the first wife.

>>282451110
My first post this thread btw. Also you are more mentally ill for ranting in a thread for a show you don't like for several hours.
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>>282451230
Dude it really fucking is you oh my god. KEK
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>>282446793
>anime subtitles are my evidence
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>>282451244
there's more to being a wife than cooking/cleaning and if she's demanding he "call" them concubines that means she is not comfortable with him taking wives AFTER HER which is the entire thrust of my post.

>>282451249
this i agree with.
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>>282451296
Cool story bro
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>>282451296
Kek
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>>282451328
Now use the phone to take a picture of the PC you're sitting in front of.
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>>282449514
>nearly 300 pages of pretty much a fanfic, translated by AI
do /a/ really
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>>282450965
Wait, he's wearing three rings?
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>>282451367
My schitzo, I type with a completely different style than that guy, use a different theme, use a different screenshot program (given the naming convention), and have been posting with images from like 2022.
Please accept there are multiple people that disagree with you on this topic in the world. It isn't that unbelievable.
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>>282451367
I just can’t believe I found you here on this board too. I switched browsers recently and decided not to keep my archive links following the images you spam on /pol/ in my tab groups, and of all the places, here you are sperging about harems on /a/. Like what are the fucking odds of that? Lmao. I’ll bring it up again next time I see you over there, I doubt you’ll have the courage to engage with me though
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>>282451412
Did you not notice Eris training?
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>>282451322
For Eris, the duties of a wife is to cook, clean, and make babies. And to stand at his side if he goes fight the dragon god.
She considers herself only capable at the last two things of those duties.
Also, it's not guaranteed that Eris would even decide that others should call themselves concubines. That's only if she had spend more years at her family's side, instead of being teleported away, living the life of an adventurer and training for the big showdown, having learned to only focus on what's really important (keeping Rudeus alive).
Plus, all his three wives have self-esteem issues, so none of them would think that they should monopolize him.
One's a flat near-infertile knife ear, the second one is an eternal-child demon, and the third one is a dumbass redhair who forgot almost everything about nobility.
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>>282451353
These are dark times.
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>>282451441
I think the demon girl should have been his 4th wife, but I get why rudeus didn’t want to duel mister 6 arms of steel for her
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>>282451435
holy shit that picture.
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>>282451497
real

>>282451463
I don't know if you're talking about Kishirika or Atofe and I don't know which one would be the more insane suggestion.
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>>282451545
Ah, Kishirika. Call me crazy but she pushes all the right buttons for me. Rudeus of course lacks the insane self confidence needed to fix her
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>>282451545
Considering that anon mentioned mister six-arms, probably referring rather to Kishirika Kishirisu, the great empress of the demon world.
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>>282451463
Banana should have been his 4th wife.
BTW does she just keep living forever or what? What is her fate?
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>>282451581
You'll see what happens to her next season. It's very important for the first cour.
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>>282451561
Sasuga boston-sama
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>>282451558
>Rudeus of course lacks the insane self confidence needed to fix her
First off, motherfucker, there's nothing wrong with her in the first place. Second, he wouldn't even need to fight Badigadi since he's already sealed up anyway.

>>282451581
Presumably she'll start aging again at the point in time that Shinohara is summoned, and the reason she isn't aging is because she got sent into the past. Since she's in the past, she's technically -83 years old.
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>>282451581
She is the only girl that Sylphy would always reject.
She needs to live until her boyfriend's Isekai happens and she can get fucked by the Miko.
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>>282451633
>there's nothing wrong with her in the first place
Well, by that standard, there's nothing wrong with picrel too, and you know what, I can see your point.
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>>282451633
Finding Kishirika Kishirisu, the great empress of the demon world is going to be extremely difficult, unless fate-manipulating entitities like the Man God are involved.
After all, the north god was on an epic quest to find her whereabouts for her demon eyes that would allow them to find Arus and Aisha.
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New season?
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>>282451645
It's pretty crazy how insecure and worried Sylphy gets when she thinks they share a special connection, but then Roxy shows up and she's like "you share a special connection with Rudy so I accept you into the harem"
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>>282451707
Next year
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>>282451707
Probably April next year, as Toho would most likely want to capitalize on the fantasy hype train that follows after Frieren season 2.
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>>282451581
Sara should have been included as the 4th possible wife.
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>>282451752
Really fucked up what he did to her. He only thinks of her as an Eris replacement, fails to get it up with her, and next thing she knows he's back from a night of whoring yelling in the street about how stupid she is for wanting to do cute date stuff then he instantly skips town. He probably fucked her up for life.
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>>282451752
ngl im kind of upset that in volume 23, he offered soldat a job when he wasn't quitting, but didn't think to offer sara one when she did quit. what the fuck, rudeus?
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>>282451752
She should've been more included in the plot. I like the fact that she never becomes a wife and having her as a member of the corp would drive the point home further
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>>282451724
It's not that Nanahoshi has a special connection to Rudeus. It's that her "connection" was told to her (as Fitz) as being /the same/ connection that Sylphy has with Rudy.

Slyphy - Childhood friend
Roxy - Sexy Teacher/God
Eris - Journey companion
Nanahoshi - Told as Childhood friend, but really is "Fellow reincarnator".

I don't think Rudy ever clarified this with her. Like even when he tells the wives about his previous life.

So she hates Nanahoshi as she is stealing Slyphy's special connection.
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>>282451724
Yeah, but Roxy is the demonic teacher, so that's different from being a 'same village childhood friend neighbor' that she has as her defining point.
>what about Eris, isn't she a childhood friend as well?
Yes, but she has other traits like being the noble cousin who lives in that fancy big fortress town.
Nanahoshi however has the mysteirous 'I'm an alien from another world' thing going on, and she and him speak their incomprehensible alien chingchong, and he didn't deny any claims of her that they know each other from way before and having lived in a different place once together while Sylphie was pretending to be an effeminate dude.
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>missed my change to talk about Mushoku
Even if this thread was filled with normie jews, I wanted to talk about it now that I finished Redundant 2. At least I can read the third volume anyway, thanks.
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>>282451865
Sara was some filler added for the LN. Rifujin probably forgot about her.
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>>282452576
Well, no, since he brought her in the same volume as Soldat as well.
It's just that the light novel is mostly the same as the original web novel, and in there, neither Sara nor Soldat were given any relevant mention. Heck, Sara didn't exist in that form as she did in the light novel, it was only mentioned that Rudeus tried and failed to have a relationship with another adventurer after Eris left him.
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>Sara is not mentioned later
Nobody has read the last books where she shows up and Rudeus has even a dream fantasy with her? (because of the blue blob enemy whose name escaped my mind)
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>>282452960
>trying to get the last word in
See you in the next thread boston-sama. I still have $11 in my bank account btw



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