Hi ragebater chan

Hunter x Hunter is over

>>282471783
12 year old Japanese boys can understand Hunter x Hunter just fine, and you can't.

>>282474141
Tell me, what am I wrong about?

I think I've seen this post before, but I'll just repeat what I said. You aren't incorrect, as such, but when it comes to something like villains vs villains, people are more willing to forgive it. Chrollo developing his power isn't an issue, the issue is that we don't know the restrictions. If he dies and we never learn his new restrictions, then it's bad writing, but thus far, they haven't been relevant (as far as we know), and as such it isn't a problem they haven't been elaborated on. Considering the recent chapters with him mentioning he needs to steal something to gain a new power / evolve his ability, it indicates to me that we'll likely get an explanation sooner or later, as this is a whole other aspect to his power we had no idea about.

>>282474610
Why not just explain it beforehand then? What's the point of keeping it hidden? It's Togashi only revealing things when it's convenient for the plot to happen.

>>282474891
Because it’s not relevant yet, as I said. In the moment of the fight, it wasn’t restricting his actions. Outside the fight is when the restrictions are relevant, and explaining before the fight makes no sense, it’s supposed to be a surprise that he has the bookmark

>>282471783
In all that time the Troupe completely forgot about the chain user. They didn’t even try retaliating against him after Yorknew.

>>282475066
What makes you think they “forgot”? Kurapika was not a priority. Pakunodas death mellowed them out and they focused on helping Chrollo get rid of the curse, then immediately after Hisoka tries to rape Chrollo. It’s only been a year since Chrollo got rid of Kurapika’s curse IIRC. They had no reason to rush, plus you have no idea if they looked for Kurapika off screen.

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>>282471783
For some reason most people suck at critiquing this series. They either have horrible arguments or are somehow just as retarded as even the most braindead Huntertard. Like the OP for example/ I could easily make some arguments that could shut up Hunter fans

>>282475199
>They had no reason to rush, plus you have no idea if they looked for Kurapika off screen.
I do and they just didn’t care. Not a single person in the Troupe moved a muscle even when Kurapika was on TV and they saw him. They literally didn’t.

>>282475280
>Hunter exam : second least flawed arc. It’s the most shonen arc and shows its age but it is what it is
>Heavens arena: lack of interesting side villains. The people the kids defeated are shitty characters besides what they showcase about the nen system.
>yorknew: probably the least flawed arc even though it’s overhyped
>Greed island: Uninteresting side characters , lack of stakes because of Bisky being super strong, mediocre main villain (Gentru), uninteresting setting (most unimaginative “game” island. They couldn’t even make it look cool)
>chimera ant arc: Ikalgos palace storyline is wholly unnecessary , Palms character change is shoddily written, mediocre pacing with spending too much time on training or infiltrating prior to palace invasion, Kite didn’t appear long enough to really give merit to Gon sacrificing everything . Some people complain about the narrator, I couldn’t give much of a shit.
>Election arc: two of the worst asspulls in contemporary Shonen. Kite revival (which is explained by Ging waving his hand “muh kite ability!”) and Nanika being a wish granting tranny ( but the power of love! Yes amazing writing Togashi!)

>>282475411
>kurapika on TV
?huh, what manga chapter did that happen

>>282474891
What reason would Chrollo have to explain his new restrictions to Hisoka?

>>282471783
>He never said the restrictions or how he overcame needing one hand.
So that's where Gege got that tendency from.

>>282475504
Exactly. It will be much more interesting if we learn Chrollo’s restrictions in a more interesting scenario, like when he’s actually in danger.
If Togashi never reveals the restrictions though I will agree with OP.
I feel like half of the complaints are just because of Togashi’s writing style

>>282475476
It was from one of Togashi’s extras.

>>282471783
>What's stopping one of the Troop members from going "in exchange for blindness, I'll always know where the chain user is".
Nothing at all.
Thing is, nothing stops you from developing a new skill at no cost other than learning it and the opportunity cost of something else you didn't learn. That's how you get your first skill. It's not odd for someone who probably only has one skill and has been exploiting other people's to get a second one.
Hell, Hisoka has two as well, doesn't he?

>>282471783
>This is the problem with Hunter X Hunter. The characters can manifest powers out of nowhere
Literally every single battle shounen does that. The author isn't going to show you every single character training their abilities, that'd take forever, be boring and ruin dramatic tension.
>Chrollo needed to hold the book, but later he doesn't. Why? Never told
He created a new sub-ability called Double Face: Bookmark Theme, it says it right there on the page you posted. He conjures a bookmark which can be placed in the book to "hold a page."
>What's stopping one of the Troop members from going "in exchange for blindness, I'll always know where the chain user is"
Nen users can do something like that, but it takes time and conviction, and that restriction might not be good enough. There are characters in the current arc who only exist to be Nen ability fodder or have intentionally created specific abilities for detailing with their current mission.
>He never said the restrictions
Chrollo's book was described to us by the narrator, so it can be assumed Togashi wasn't hiding anything from us, but in the current arc he describes needing to steal valuable items before putting new abilities in his book. That might be his new restriction.

>>282475692
Skills are limited to a person’s potential. Not everyone can King Crimson or O MY RUBBER NEN their problems away. Kurapika couldn’t just teleport chain every Troupe member into his baby gay nen jail immediately at his best he could only capture one at a time when he’s facing them.

>>282475802
Correct.
Bookmark doesn't really do much other than lift a restriction on another skill.

>>282471783
How is this a problem? Chrollo right now just self-invented an RPG-style quest with a book upgrade as its reward lol

>>282475544
And hiatus.
The fact that it's been nearly 10 years makes it feel worse than it really is.

>>282475066
Pakunoda died to stop them from going after Kurapika. Did you forget that?

>>282475451
>>Heavens arena: lack of interesting side villains
It's 20 chapters.
>>chimera ant arc: Ikalgos palace storyline is wholly unnecessary
He thinks he's weak for being unable to kill Brovuda after his big brain plan incapacitates him, but then willingly sacrifices himself to kill Welfin - who buckles and has a change of heart. A typical "hero" would've killed both of them and died himself, leaving three corpses behind. Instead, he spared his enemies and got three happy endings out of it: Ikalgo lived, Brovuda reunited Reina with her mom and Welfin reminded Meruem of Komugi. It wasn't fun to read when we had more interesting stuff going on, but it was the setup that enabled the arc's biggest payoffs.
>>Election arc: two of the worst asspulls in contemporary Shonen
It's normal for battle shounen to do this, but usually when it's done, the reason is because "the good guy wins in spite of logic." That's not what happened here. There was a much deeper thematic logic to it. They're also both references to YuYu Hakusho. They're still asspulls, though, that's true.

>>282471783
>What's stopping one of the Troop members from going "in exchange for blindness, I'll always know where the chain user is".
The fact that they don't want to be blind?
It's a matter of risk assessment.
Yes, you COULD make yourself blind forever in exchange for knowing the location of your assailant. And then once he's dead, you'll still be blind.
Or you could try to take your chances catching your assailant the normal way, and then live the rest of your life with your eyesight so that you can actually fight off future assailants.

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>>282475451
>Ikalgos palace storyline is wholly unnecessary
Wrong.
It was all setup for this scene.
You could argue that too much time is dedicated to Ikalgo's palace storyline, but it was necessary.

>>282475860
It does feel a little bad, though. Togashi hasn't been super clear with how Nen abilities work, he's just said more than other authors. Outside of one comment in Yorknew, most fans were under the impression that, as far as the Nen system is concerned, all abilities are "equal." The entire point of there being conditions and restrictions and vows and stuff is that an ability can be "too strong" and thus need something to balance it all. However, now Chrollo's talking about some abilities simply being more or less powerful in construction. How? The entire point of restrictions, etc., is to counteract that being a thing. The variable that's always changed isn't the ability's level, but the character's. So for example, when Meruem gained Youpi's ability, Youpi was blown away by how much stronger it was than what he could do. That's not the ability being strong, that's Meruem being strong. But now, there are strong and weak abilities? Why would someone make a weak ability?

When I was a teenager, I'd hand wave complaints like this by explaining that it had something to do with Nen cost, but that was just my head canon. I honestly don't know the answer.

I think they don’t actually need to go that far to catch their target. You got to be a pretty shitty Hunter to give up your eyes to hunt your target.

>>282475778
>He created a new sub-ability called Double Face: Bookmark Theme, it says it right there on the page you posted. He conjures a bookmark which can be placed in the book to "hold a page."
What did he give up to make that restriction though? Never stated.

>>282476234
I would think the bookmark itself would be fine enough, it's not free, but in the current arc he mentions not being able to steal powerful Nen abilities without stealing rare treasure, and since that wasn't mentioned in Yorknew, that must be the new restriction.

>>282476195
>The entire point of there being conditions and restrictions and vows and stuff is that an ability can be "too strong" and thus need something to balance it all
No, the point was that you can achieve something beyond your normal potential if you sacrifice something for it. Stronger and weaker people always existed, and we even got a tangible example of Gon and Killua being far more gifted than most people and even most gifted characters.

I’ve seen a lot of new watchers being iffy or hating on the Chimera ant arc. Is this a TLOU2 situation (loud minority) or will the arc age badly?

>>282476408
And before you say I’m lying, I’m being 100% truthful . Topics I mostly see
> The Narrator is annoying
> Gons rage makes no sense
> Boring training subarc
> Slow pacing
> No Kurapika or Hisoka
> arc Too long
> the new characters characters are hard to care about

>>282476360
>No, the point was that you can achieve something beyond your normal potential if you sacrifice something for it
But Zeno accurately guessed the number of conditions Chrollo had. He knows Chrollo's potential? Does Leol have the same potential as Chrollo? How did Izunavi know that Kurapika's restriction was too weak for his goal? So if someone with more potential than Kurapika made Chain Jail, they wouldn't need to stake their life on it?

Wait, if that's the case, then Chrollo really isn't looking for a strong ability, he's looking for a strong person. He wouldn't want to steal the ability from someone with such little potential they need twenty conditions to make their ability work, right?

>>282476468
Togashi made a great arc but it’s true he had no reason to abandon his good characters and plot for something else entirely.

>>282476530
>So if someone with more potential than Kurapika made Chain Jail, they wouldn't need to stake their life on it?
That's the implication, yes. Kurapika doesn't seem to be an absolute monster, so anyone could guess such a strong ability has to have insane restrictions. As to why Zeno guessed Chrollo's, I don't know: assuming the balance hypothesis was right, we're also not told exactly how restrictions work (say, number of effects = number of restrictions). Zeno is just that good I guess.

And yes, Chrollo needs strong people to get better abilities. Perhaps he'd grab a weak person's ability if it were just that good and had conditions he can fulfill easily, but that's jumping through needless hoops. Easier to find monsters than to get used to crap.

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>>282471783
>>I will now magically pop out a new ability with no explanation or build up

>>282476552
He had great reason. Regardless of what anyone says the chimera ant arc is part of why the series is loved and highly rated . Also the arc was always in his draft, it’s literally just a Level E Arc revamped. Most of Togashi’s major pieces are revamped from his previous work. Even Greed islands idea came from Level E

>>282476658
I haven’t watched 1999 yet. I’m waiting until We finish the succession war or, if not, when Togashi quits. Why? Because then I’ll still have some Hunter media to consume when’s it’s all over

>>282476635
Anon, that doesn't make any sense. To test your theory: post the weak characters who need lots of conditions to justify their shit ability and strong characters who don't need any for their awesome ability.

>>282476738
OP's a deranged schizoid who makes these threads everyday, probably because he got raped by /hxh/ back when that was a thing ten years ago.

>>282476846
OP wins because Hunter fags don’t exist in this site anymore, they gave up on the series because it wasn’t worth it.

>>282476846
Everything that the anon was posting were legitimate questions. The series sat down Gon and Killua to explain nen to them and there's still so many questions.
Can you remove a restriction? How do you create a restriction? How do you enforce it(example, the chains that only work on phantom troupe members, do they work on ex members, if they change the name of the troupe willit still work, if someone lies and says they are a member of the troupe can he use the chains without it killing him, if someone is wrapped in the chain and they say "I renounce my membership of the troupe"Can willit still work?) Can you change restrictions in small ways to fit the situation? Can you transfer it? Can you have multiple restrictions? If you do have multiple restrictions, can you make a restriction that cancels out another restriction? He says that he will use all the nen he will ever havedoes that mean all the nen that he has in him right now? Does that factor in any future training that he may do? There are too many questions about restrictions.

>>282476890
NTA but Yea I agree. Togashi implies there’s some esoteric “aura”, or god, or balancing force that decides this shit based on the individual but he never explains it.
I just think people don’t engage with it because the OP presents it as make or break for the series. And based off other comments he seems to bait a lot.
I think the reason most people don’t care is that it hasn’t gotten drastically bad (well, it got drastically bad with Alluka). Because, from a glance, even with all the mumbo jumbo most abilities are balanced within the ecosystem and follow some random form of meta logic (is that the proper term).
Like there are rarely abilities DRasticalky better than others that don’t have some sort of balance. Chrollo has to fulfill multiple conditions. Killua’s needs a spruce and can run out very quickly, Tserriendich has to go into zetsu, Halkenburg needs a giant crowd.

Most people with DRastically better abilities have massive aura (the royal ants), or are literally the .1% (Netero and maybe Ging)

>>282476738
We barely hear about truly weak Nen users, so I'll just compare a medium to strong one versus a truly powerful one
>Kurapika
- Chains with five effects, quite versatile, somewhat useful in fights, very powerful against a few specific people
- Restrictions: depending on the skill, it works only against a specific group and kills him if he violates it, only when directly facing the opponent, is weak as shit*, doesn't work*, and forces him into a lifespan draining state as long as he doesn't cancel it*.
*Emperor Time is simply hax and lets him push these abilities into being useful at the cost of lifespan.
>Netero
- Extremely strong and fast punches, perhaps the strongest 1v1 skill in terms of direct damage
- Restrictions: pray (he does it faster than a blink)

>>282476874
Nah, it's just HxH had the least deranged general and the majority of people moved on.
The only ones who didn't were the ones who were already ostracized, like the Killua pedo.

>>282476890
>The series sat down Gon and Killua to explain nen to them and there's still so many questions
They never had special abilities explained to them.
>Can you remove a restriction?
You can make abilities, so obviously you can change them, too.
>How do you create a restriction? How do you enforce it
Focusing on your aura or thinking about it or something. Nen isn't real, so it doesn't matter.
>do they work on ex members, if they change the name of the troupe willit still work, if someone lies and says they are a member of the troupe can he use the chains without it killing him, if someone is wrapped in the chain and they say "I renounce my membership of the troupe"Can willit still work?
Nen abilities work based on the user's specific wording and intentions. If a Nen user isn't careful and just wishes for the ability they want without considering all the nuances, the Nen itself will come up with conditions without their knowledge. We see this several times in the series itself. In Yorknew, Kurapika admits he wasn't sure if he could use Judgment Chain on himself at first, so he changed the condition from being Spider-only to Scarlet Eyes enabled. In the Chimera Ant Arc, Morel doesn't know if his smoke will reach him in Nen space and Welfin doesn't realize how his own ability is deactivated, because he never bothered coming up with a way, his Nen came up with one itself. In Hisoka vs. Chrollo, Chrollo talks about how Order Stamp's user didn't consider humans to be objects, so he couldn't manipulate corpses with it, in spite of Chrollo himself considering people objects.
>If you do have multiple restrictions, can you make a restriction that cancels out another restriction?
Nen is like a GM, you can't trick it like that.
>There are too many questions about restrictions
The same is true to an even greater extent in every other action-fantasy series.

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>>282476890
I have the impression you can’t lift a restriction, or perhaps it takes effort to do so, due to what this page says.

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>>282477028
Holy fucking hell, the answer to each of these questions you could found by reading the manga
>Can you remove a restriction?
Yes, but it will result in a weaker ability and penalty if the restriction had one
>How do you create a restriction?
You just say that the ability will only work under X conditions
>How do you enforce it(example, the chains that only work on phantom troupe members, do they work on ex members, if they change the name of the troupe willit still work, if someone lies and says they are a member of the troupe can he use the chains without it killing him, if someone is wrapped in the chain and they say "I renounce my membership of the troupe"Can willit still work?)
Chrollo, after being forced into zetsu with chain jail, being able to speak with Hisoka since he was never actually part of the Troupe provides an adequate enough answer here. So no, Kurapika would have died if he used chain jail on Hisoka
>Can you change restrictions in small ways to fit the situation?
Yes, see Cheetu
>Can you transfer it? Can you have multiple restrictions?
Yes, see Chrollo's Skill Hunter
>If you do have multiple restrictions
can you make a restriction that cancels out another restriction?
See the first point

>>282477040
Kurapika is the constant example of how not to use nen really.
He's literally killing himself everytime he uses his abilities because he wanted to get super powerful in a short period of time, whereas Netero honed his entire body and mentality for years.

>>282477091
>You can make abilities, so obviously you can change them, too.
It's not that obvious. It could be unchangeable with the excuse that once done it takes far too much work to change slightly. But I recall Kurapika's dolphin was a modification or improvement on his chains, do you know if that's true?

>>282476738
Phinks needs to rotate his arm for whats just a really strong punch i'd say thats a pretty shitty tradeoff. If we count the Nen beasts, Fugetsu's is so horribly specific in its restrictions and its just a travel ability

>>282477063
The series is so dead that even if Togashi comes back again the threads probably won’t hit bump as fast as they used to.

>>282477040
Your post describes what I was saying, not what you were saying. Hyakushiki Kannon, based on its description, is not a powerful ability at all. It only seems so powerful because Netero is powerful and he based the restriction on his own unique habit which no one else can replicate. That strong condition makes the ability stronger, but the ability itself is just "if I pray, a statue punches people for me." Any another Enhancer would just fight themselves, conjuring a statue to do it is a waste of time.

If what you were saying were true, then Kurapika wouldn't be able to use Hyakushiki Kannon without AN EVEN GREATER CONDITION. Seriously? No, that's obviously wrong. He could absolutely use it. It'd just be slow because his hands are slow, so it wouldn't be worth it. The impressive thing here isn't the ability, it's Netero.

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>>282477146
That's because, again, most people just moved on.
Most old hunterfags just lurk /lit/ now.

>>282477183
>No, that's obviously wrong. He could absolutely use it.
Is it? Would it be the same skill, or a weaker version?
You're disregarding the skill's entire point (its speed and power) in order to fit your argument. The point is that it's strong with few restrictions because its user is strong.
If you disregard power and intensity you're also disregarding all of Kurapika's skills, since the restrictions are precisely what gives them power.
So yeah, I'd be wrong if I disregarded the core of my point. Good job.

>>282476635
>And yes, Chrollo needs strong people to get better abilities.
What are you talking about ? Neon wasn't "strong", she wasn't even awre of her ability. And the "Love Dial" ability he has recently used seems to have been taken from some idol fangirl

>>282477183
>it's a weak skill because it's strong only when the strong guy uses it
... what the fuck is a strong skill according to you kek

>>282477330
The definition of "strong" for japs is different and this comes up often in anime. It's an aura thing, not about capability for battle. Whether Neon was aware or not doesn't matter, she had strong aura.
Now, yeah, Chrollo would use a rando's shit skill if it's useful for him. Still a shit skill. It's just that he can do combos. That doesn't mean he wouldn't rather have a "powerful" person's skill given the chance.

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>>282477351
I don't understand what it is you're not getting. Hyakushiki Kannon does not require you to be fast to use it. All it requires is that you pray. So you pray and a giant statue appears and slaps the shit out of people for you. This would happen no matter who used it. The reason it appears like such a fearsome ability is because Netero prays so quickly. If he didn't, it would appear equal to any other Nen ability. Because it is. The only thing that makes it special is Netero's hand speed.

Instead of going about it in a long winded way, can't chrollo have just said, "Bookmark allows me to use the marked page at any time."?

>>282477398
He takes the ability, not the user's aura. He himself has enough aura to use most abilities but I'm not sure he could have used Netero's ability cause he would have not have enough aura.

>>282477532
It wasn't that long winded. He was just explaining it lets him put the book down so he can use abilities that require two hands or he can use two abilities at once, things he couldn't do before as explained by the restrictions the narrator told us, and then he alludes to more annoying restrictions.

>>282477532
His explanation isn't that longwinded.
He states everything the ability does in two sentences.

>>282477666
Where was it said Hyakushiki Kannon requires a lot of aura? We also don't know what level of proficiency Chrollo uses stolen skills at. Is it based on his own Nen or the user's? If he stole Big Bang Impact, would he also leave a giant crater in the ground? If he stole Doctor Blythe, how long would it take him to heal people? Pitou's original length? The later length? Does it depend when he stole it? Or is it a completely different length based on himself? We don't know, but it also doesn't matter.

This is why I said the "strong ability" line is stupid. Is Big Bang Impact a low level or high level ability? It's literally just a punch with aura, Feitan says so. So is the fucking moon-destroying punch a weak or strong ability according to Chrollo?

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Sex with Gon

HxHfags getting CREAMED in this thread.

Togashi can’t give any exact rules for nen because he wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants the nerdish love of a rigid system while having the freedom of magic. Most authors do too, but Togashi put more effort with all the shit so it sticks out more.
Togashi loves to have his cake and eat it too. Like he wants to have the high stakes of protagonist facing death , but never actually kill them off. (Gon). Again. Most authors do too, but when people parade you you’re gonna be under a tougher microscope

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>>282471783
It was revealed in the recent chapter that Skill Hunter can be upgraded through stealing high-class treasures and with him already possessing the bookmark we can infer that he upgraded his book to be able to defeat Hisoka the first time. If you required any more info than that, then that's on you.
>What's stopping one of the Troop members from going "in exchange for blindness, I'll always know where the chain user is".
They literally never took Kurapika to be that big a threat and still don't. For good reason since they're aware of how his powers work, they could easily just gank him with raw numbers.

>>282477484
>So you pray and a giant statue appears and slaps the shit out of people for you. This would happen no matter who used it.
This is what I don't understand. Do you truly believe the skill would be as strong and powerful if someone weaker used it? His prayer being fast does not confer the statue speed, it only confers it a faster start.
According to you, both a beginner and Netero could destroy a mountain with it, but Netero would be faster, and I refute that: the beginner wouldn't hit hard at all.

>>282478508
But now you're agreeing with me. Don't you remember? I said it was my understanding that all abilities were equal, that's the entire point of conditions and restrictions and whatnot, they balance the ability. But now Chrollo's saying there are weak and strong abilities.

Are you going to call Hyakushiki Kannon a strong ability when it does nothing in the hands of a newbie? Doesn't sound very strong to me. It sounds like Netero is the one who's strong. That's what I said in my original post: where is this "powerful ability" shit coming from?

Unless Chrollo steals the ability and uses it with the same proficiency as the original user (unlike Meruem). If that's the case, then there are powerful abilities - they're whatever a powerful user does. So really Chrollo is looking for a powerful Nen user.

Why am I restating all of this?

>>282478827
>But now you're agreeing with me.
No
>Don't you remember? I said it was my understanding that all abilities were equal
I do, I disagree with that. Netero, being strong, was able to create a strong ability with few restrictions. Kurapika, being average, was able to create a strong ability with several restrictions. If Netero placed restrictions on his ability, it would be boosted even further beyond.
>Are you going to call Hyakushiki Kannon a strong ability when it does nothing in the hands of a newbie?
No. I would call a newbie's ability strong if it can output tremendous effect, and the only way they'd do that is through restrictions.

About Chrollo, I'd say he's looking for "powerful" (in the sense of Chikara, not strength) abilities, which are more likely to be created by powerful Nen users. Not necessarily exclusive to or the same thing as Nen users.

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Feels like Togashi realized that he is never going to go through with all the Gyro build up so he just created Morena as a replacement so he can tell the story he wanted to tell with that kind of character within this arc and wrap up the series.

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>>282471783
People do like to praise nen a lot but as a power system it has so many soft elements that it does feel at times like the rules can just change on a whim. It also doesn't help that the main graph everyone went by for more than a decade is now invalidated.
Although honestly, Togashi should have made specialists sit in the middle from the start, it does make more sense that way, so I can't be mad for him basically reconning it to be that way.

>>282479019
So Gyro was gonna go around feeding and seeding people?

>>282479019
Except Morena and gyro are completely different characters. Someone who thinks Morena is a gyro replacement has a surface level understanding of their characters

>>282475066
One of the reasons for the Trope to get into the Black Whale could very well be revenge. Mizai thinks this is the case.

>>282479230
Their motivation and goals are extremely similar, almost identical in fact

>>282479230
>Disagrees
>doesn't back his opinion in any way other than an ad hominem
A compelling argument

>>282479230
>Morena and gyro are completely different characters
Are they? How?

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I really hope he doesn't die by the end of this arc. This guy has the potential to be a bigger threat than the ants.

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>kurapika is targeting tse
>chrollo is targeting hisoka and *maybe tse
>hisoka is targeting chrollo
>tse is targeting heil ly
>heil ly is targeting tse
>spiders is targeting heil ly
who will team up against who?

>>282479662
No it isn’t. Gyros goal is to spread evil , Morena’s is to destroy everything. The way they operate in their goals are so different that they make how their arcs form drastically different. Gyro plays a far more long game, choosing to create his own nation and spreading drugs that slowly seep and spread evil. While Morena chose to create a cult that uses murder as her primary weapon.

Gyro had his father in his life and had a hope in that drove his decision making. Gon didn’t have a father in his life and had his own hope in his father that drive his decision making. Gyro, born in a shitty industrial town and getting his experience through construction while again, born in an island and getting his experience through nature, etc.
Gyro is pretty clearly for Gons arc.

Meanwhile Morena was a victim of sexual and abuse in a way that reflects on corruption and disgust in a monarchy, and used Power to wield her own identity and fight back against that nation. Her arc immediately connects to characters like Nasubi, Tserrienich (who treats women and people as less than human for his own disgusting fetish), and the troupe (who were in a nation that was also treated as less than human by other).

Do they have similarities? Of course. The biggest thing is their nihilism. But that informs multiple characters in Togashi’s stories. Sensui, Mukuro, Chrollo, Gyro, Morena. It’s not something special to just Morena.
Do you think Gyro, as described in the manga, would use a goofy murder cult to start his plans?

As I said, you have a surface level understandings of their character, and that’s okay. But even if you ignore that, Gyro is in meteor city while the troupe is gone. Togashi clearly has plans for him.

If I were a guessing man, I think Gons connection to Gyro will help analyze Gons naïveté even more. How will Gon combat the inequality and corruption in Meteorcity? You can’t punch socioeconomic conditions away, you can’t punch Gyros ideals either

>>282479793
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>>282479960
Kek. Holy shit. Yea Hunterfans are done. We have retards who think Morena and Gyro are pretty much the same character with the same function in the story.
We need to blaze this site, there’s no more hope. it’s either newfags or children.

>>282479985
>We have retards who think Morena and Gyro are pretty much the same character
I don't think so, but I asked a question and you can't answer it. You're just some guy calling people dumb and not arguing shit.

>>282479985
All the litfags who were Hunter fans have left, no wonder the quality to discussion has went to shit.

>>282480009
I just made a reply right here
>>282479960
Again, you’re either newfag, a retard, or a child. Maybe all 3.
We need to blaze the site

>>282480025
>I just made a reply right here
No, you didn't. I asked "are they? How?" and you simply repeated the insult. This question scares you. Why? I know the answer, it's not a hard question.
Are you insulting others out of insecurity, anon?

>>282480056
Are you retarded? The how is here
>>282479960
Do you know how to read?
Or are you just baiting because you can’t make a response?
Oh wait, I know, you can’t. Good to know.

>>282480077
I don't believe that's you. If it were, you'd have replied "read the post above" instead of insulting people for giving you the opportunity to develop your argument.
If it is you, that's just even more ridiculous. You need to get off this website, you're just looking for reasons to get angry now.

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>>282480118
No, it is me
Again, you’re a retard who tried to bait. Dont reply to me unless you have something worthwhile to say.

>>282479960
So Gyro wants to spread evil to the world while Morena wants to destroy the world. Gyro wants to build his own nation to accomplish his goals while Morena wants to use the power of a nation to also accomplish her goals.
And bofh of their motivations are also fueled by the experiences they went through since the day they were born in this world, which led them to similarly despite it.
It's really that simple anon, you can try to pick and choose small details to try to pretend they are completely different, but that's just midwittery.
Their characters are extremely similar whether you want to admit it or not.

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>>282476738
>post the weak characters who need lots of conditions to justify their shit ability
The Ortho Siblings (picrel)
1. They need to work together. The brother's ability doesn't work without the sister's tag.
2. The tag must be placed physically on the opponent.
3. If the brother misses the dartboard, they both die.
4. They can't bail out of the game. Once it's started, they're stuck.
All of this, and winning the game of darts doesn't even guarantee death. An opponent can conceivably just tank the darts.

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>>282479960
a HunterCHAD post. Good times are coming.

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>>282479941
I don’t think a Chrollo vs Hisoka rematch will happen. Hisoka’s role was mainly to break Chrollo’s mask, to expose his true self. Most likely, he’ll act as a wildcard, an intermediary between Chrollo and Kurapika to tie up their conflict, then fuck off before Tse appears and mindbreaks them both.

>>282471783
People that consume manga via memes should be publicly executed

>>282476408
>loud minority
This isn't really a criticism. Popularity doesn't necessarily equate to quality and minority groups can be correct where the majority is not at times.

>>282482099
What are you talking about? I wasn’t making criticism. I’m just asking if the majority of new watchers hate the arc or if it’s just a loud minority. I didn’t like TLOU2 and even I can recognize my camp are a loud minority. And as a result the reputation of the arc won’t stick with my opinion. I want to see if it’s the same with the chimera ant arc.

>>282471783
Is chuunibyou story and nothing else aimed at chuunis (which most hunterfags are).
Take for example the rule kurapika put on the chains "if you try to remove them you die, if i die you die, if you get close to me you die, if i feel your saki near me you die, if you reveal something about me or my chains you die (which was why pakoda died)" yet then magical dragon balls... i mean nen user shows up and removes chains which is retarded since goes against the whole rules kurapika put in them.
So you are one of the few that is realizing all the issues, no matter how some promote it as seinen or dark shounen you can't remove is a chuuni story at the end.
>>282474610
That's how chrollo book worked nothing changed just togashi got senile (the whole he needs to steal nen skills to power up is part of his book skill).
Is bad writing...well yes for example just ask yourself this.
>how did chrollo recovered his nen skills without revealing about kurapika.
>how did he bypassed kurapika rules.
>why kurapika put such limitations.
Just with that you realize is a mess of bad writing, at least other mangas go "you don't touch the past, is a story, it doesn't matter how the wish granting object was used since will be used for later jokes" yet togashi wants to fill something because he thinks fans care about shit that happened 20 years ago (no one cares) even i was laughing when chrollo vs isoka was made with the whole "ooohhh muuuhhh rubber nen" because didn't care back then, didn't care 14 years ago and didn't care 5 years ago.

>>282483052
Holy ESL

>>282482099
And chimera arc made no sense, was the dropping point of hxh.
>oohh yeah after you almost died by revenge for someone you met for 5 minutes forgot to tell you before he had a special skill that activated when he was about to die.
>his skill allows him to transfer his soul to a nearby pregnant organism.
Fuck off!!

>>282483104
>no argument.
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>>282483139
I wasn’t trying to make an argument. I just literally can’t understand what you’re saying because of the ESL. I could agree with everything you say… but it all sounds like ESL gibberish.

>>282478356
>>282479113
>tries to make an elaborate power system
>make specialists
That’s why I never like Nen, what hack

>>282477107
Who enforces it?
These powers make no sense.

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Please consider this cat.

>>282484421
The user and their nen.

>>282471783
I WANT TO FUCK MORENA PRUDO!!!!!!!

>>282471783
>nooooo,! if they explain the power in enough detail, it’s okay that it comes out of nowhere, that’s the entire power system!!!
it’s dogshit lmao

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>still no tweet for chapter 420

>>282479937
He's still a small fry in the grand order of things. Ging would wipe the floor with him.