What’s your opinion on Demon slayer
>>282474712Post hand and passport, THREE. INCH. JOSHUA
>>282474758FPBP total 3inch suicide
Its pretty good
Best girl gets no art
It's undeniably trash but I love it
>>282474712KINO/10just the fact it actually succeded into forcing an autist wasting his whole day trying (and failing) shitting on it means it is an absolute masterpiece.Also Jeremy is a deviant!
>>282474712Strong 7/10>>282476695Musan was a complete bitch>I am le natural disaster>NOOOO YORIICHI WAS THE MONSTER NOT ME
>>282474712Peak. Unlike Jeremy.
>>282474712The manga is one of my favorites. The anime is alright.
>>282476927He raped that demon didnt he?
>>282474712It’s good and more shonen should copy it’s focused, fast paced storytelling. 300 chapters is a max an average series should reach.
>>282474712I love it, the story and the animation alsobThe absolute meltdown it causes here
Unironically mid, dropped if halfways through s1.
Pretty decent. Contrary to what many people think, I think Ufotable's animation being outstanding is only half the problem, the manga's art is also pretty subpar and doesn't do it justice.
>>282474758>>282475466qrd?
boring unless its your first anime i guess
>>282474712generic but entertaining
The second movie should probably end at CH 180, no? It's the best cliffhanger they could ask for, even if it's basically retread the one from the first film.I'd actually forgotten the Biwa demon doesn't get dealt with until the Muzan fight starts, meaning she'd die at the start of movie 3 and that movie 2 only really has to conclude UM2 and do all of UM1. They have good room to add some anime original scenes in this movie. Like, give us more of the sunbro flashback or giving Rengoku's dad and Tengen a fight scène.
>>282477980My dad works at Ufotable and says Nezuko fights UM5 in movie 3
>>282477980I wonder if Ufo would give him clothes initially. It’s weird that he’s just naked.
>>282477980that's what i was thinking toothat's the best place to end itthe only other places would be Yushiro forcing everyone out of the castleor "Tanjirou Kamado is dead"
>>282474712>watched a few eps>thought it was boring and ugly looking>went to watch something better instead3/10 maybe
>>282476809>Musan was a complete bitchHe was just a spoiled rich kid who got superpowers, no wonder the first time he meets someone who just utterly destroys him as a concept that he gets eternal PTSD. Last time i checked natural disasters didn't hide for a century from "Swords good" guy
>>282477980I thought it was going to be 3-2-1 for the films and then they'd announce "The Sunrise Arc" movie, but they had plenty of time for two major fights in the last movie and a full ass flashback special crammed in there. Maybe they can do 2 and 1 in the next movie.
>>282478680>the only other places would be Yushiro forcing everyone out of the castleThis is where it should end. The other one is too similar for part 1 and after koku fight the despair will be too strong it should end positive for a change
>>282474712It has quite a few 9/10 and 10/10 moments - and a few characters - that brought me more enjoyment than 95% of all shounen.I can only laugh at the people who seethe at its popularity.
>>282474712It's nice but the end sux completely
>>282474712Ultimately the thing I found most refreshing about it compared to other battle shonen was sticking to its theme.What I mean is that with stuff like Dragonball/Z, there isn't really a core idea around it besides "Get stronger". Which is fine, Get Stronger is fucking boss and the reason why it's still my favorite anime. Or we have something like JJK, which doesn't have a central idea or theme around it besides "Keep fighting'. Which, also is fine, it's a show about constantly fighting even when the "Strongest" is dead or against you, no problem there. But that doesn't leave me with a lot to mull about afterwards. Attack on Titan HAD a theme, it had a great theme about freedom at the start and even through most of the last stretch, only to chuck most of the ideas out of the way for that trainwreck of a finale. Demon Slayer? No such problem. It starts telling you what its about and it ends on that note. It has two ideas that it wants to talk about through the whole series and it never really strays from thatThe first obviously is Humanity, the kindness shared between people and what it means to be human vs demon. Some people, like Hatengu, were just evil since the start and they chose that way. Some like Koku discarded their humanity in fear of death. But the show loves talking about what the difference is between the two, people struggle against tiredness and fatigue, they're wounded and don't heal right away, they're mortal and will die. So, what does it mean to be human in face of that? Nezuko's ultimate defeat of the sun isn't by being a demon, it's choosing her humanity over it. Knowing she'll die, but choosing it all the same because she knows her brother can't. Tanjiro isn't weak because he can't let her go, he's human, he's trying to keep the last of his family, and she has to be stronger than that.Tanjiro could be a god among men, a beam spitting unkillable demon who the sun can't burn, but he chose his humanity and short lifespan instead.
>>282479253The other is a theme I really dug and don't see practically anywhere else. The idea of what you leave behind when you're gone. It looks "Immortals" dead in the face and says one way another, in this year or 1000, they're going to die. What matters is what comes afterwards, and what you leave behind. Yorici was the greatest swordsman of his generation, but he died all the same of old age one day. Even so, what he taught to his friend lives on for generations after he's gone. He's dead, but not forgotten. He's no longer the greatest being in the world, but even after his name has faded in time what he passed on kept on going. Opposite, Muzan lived for hundreds of years, changed the landscape of the world in one way or another, killed countless people, and yet within a generation of him being dead, he's forgotten. Little more than a boogeyman tale that gets mocked and made fun of, destined for even that to fade away one generation later, if not less. He clung to life until the very end, but he didn't pass anything on when he was gone. It's not what you take before you leave this world behind you, it's what you leave behind you when you go. I loved that theme for the ending, showing the future where all they fought for carried on long after they were dead. This was what Tanjiro struggled for, what the Hashira died for, not some victory lap but a world without demons killing those they love. They aren't forgotten, because they left something better behind.Honestly I just wish more shonen stuck to this, the closest I can think of is One Piece is absolutely about Nakama front to back, but even then it doesn't really drive it home like this manga does.
>>282479253>>282479318Nailed it. it's ultimately why i rate it over so many other shonen. One of the few mangas that feels like the author knew exactly what story/themes they wanted to tell AND saw it through. bonus points for not dragging their feet with filler arcs. people write it off for being le generic, but your second point couldn't be more true in that i rarely see series of this type handle death and legacy this well
>>282478680Same. It's the best moment to end this movie.
all style, no substance. Gorgeous art paired with an extremely mid story.
>>282474712It's pretty good because unlike 99% of anime or manga the author had a story to tell with a FUCKING ENDING. It lingers just a bit too long but the fact that the big bad is just vampire michael jackson is cool, and industrializing japan is a niche that isn't explored very often.
>>282479598>no substance.I can't agree with that, honestly I'm struggling to think of another shonen besides FMA:Brotherhood that stuck to its guns about what it was trying to say the whole way through. Like really ask yourself what the theme, or multitude of themes, of HunterXHunter? If you looked at Chimera Ant and the Succession arc, what's the overlapping ideal that connects the two? This isn't about quality, obviously, Chimera Ant is absolutely a great piece of storytelling even disconnected from the rest of the manga, but as a connected, continuous story, what's the theme that links it and the others? You can do this pretty easily with any and every arc of Demon Slayer. Either it's directly talking about the empathy of humanity vs the lack of it with demons, or its directly discussing what it means to have a legacy intended or not. You can see Demon Train and see it's discussing Regoku leaving behind a train full of people he saved even when he's gone, or Swordsmith talking about the dedication to art of a demon that's all about perfection at the cost of others vs the dedication of an art of a human that's about giving something from one person to another to make their lives better. There's a lot to it as a series for what it's trying to talk about.
>>282479744by 'no substance' I mean pretty much every single character is EXTREMELY flat, and the writing, while competent, doesn't really do a whole lot. All of the hashira are 2 dimensional characters. Even the protag crew are all pretty one note, and zenitsu is so unbearable that the only way to make him a good character for the final arc was to give him a 100% character change.
>>282479744>shonen besides FMA:BrotherhoodElaborate because that kind of jumps around on themes.
>>282474712Is entertaining.
>>282479823Fair enough.>>282479839Yes but also no. FMA the manga and Brotherhood, the Manga more than Brotherhood, has 2 themes that are present at the start and viewable in every single section of the story. The first is mostly about Ed an Al but will obviously be able to be connected to other facets of the story, and that's Family. More specifically it examines what family will do for each other, the lengths good and evil they'll go to for each other. Not just the positive, it very much examines the negative of this too. What you're willing to do for Family both blood and otherwise, most exemplified by Father's arc, is centerpiece to it all.The second that you're going to see more with everyone else is Equivalent exchange. What will you take, what will you give. Alphonse had everything taken but had to be reminded that those in the Philosophers Stone want to give something to save their families too. They want Al to live because he's fighting for them. What the Dwarf of the Flask wants to take and how little he's willing to give to others in turn. He wants to try again, but none will give him the chance because he has nothing to offer. Start to end that's what it's about, and it's in your face too. Sure, there's themes about the military and doing the "Right thing" for the wrong reasons, a huge emphasis on forgiveness and letting go of past pains, stuff like that, but these two themes are there at the start and they're present in every major arc.
>>282479598>Gorgeous art paired with an extremely mid story.Only the adaptation. The manga art is bad and even in the anime most of the character designs are stupid and/or ugly.
>>282474712Pretty to look at and hyped fight scenes, but my nerd brain starts to dislike it when I actually think about the worldbuilding and plot.
>https://youtu.be/h_D3VFfhvs4?t=385ENTER
>>282480460KEK
>>282479318Probably my favorite moment in the entire series is Muzan acknowledging how Ubuyashiki's legacy beat him and him desperately trying to leave something behind through demon Tanjiro.
>>282480602It was amazing to see in the end, all he could offer Tanjiro was more power. All his legacy was involved giving others power, and they didn't do anything worthwhile with it. When someone finally said no, he would rather die as a human, he couldn't wrap his head around it even after all he saw. Muzan's entire life was spent taking everything to get another day to live, at the end he had nothing left to give back.
>>282480460This meme will never get old.https://youtu.be/kilfK1ppQB0
>>282481008I truly wonder if manga-san based muzan's design on jackson.
>>282474712saint seiya, but well done.
I keep seeing reports of viewings for the movie having the most bottom of the barrel audience members chatting loudly on whats app and getting piss.
>>282474712Prostitute arc best arc.
>>282474712I watched everything related to Demon Slayer this weekend and now I finally understand its success. It's an extremely safe show. It doesn't take enough risks to be trash nor to be unique. That's why it makes sense that it pleases so many people while seemingly leaving no legacy.If cotton candy were an anime, this would be it.
>>282474712>What’s your opinion on Demon slayer>Manga's fascination with making its characters one-eyed or blind.I didn't believe that mangaka expressed their fetishes in their works until I came across this.
Koku. But a girl
>>282474712basic but enjoyable
>>282482058Incredibly based.
Since jannys deleted my thread for no reason...But basically, why didn't Amane/Ubuyashiki tell Muichiro about his past and that he had a brother? IIRC there's never any plot explanation for it. Ubuyashiki even says he'll help Muichiro regain his memory, when he knew the big secrets the entire time.Did the author literally just forget that Amane knew? Is it a plothole?
I loved the movie, my only complaint is towards the end when I think tanjiro is seeing the lads fighting and instead of showing more of the cool fighting movements in action the instead opted for the powerpoint slides that lasted for like 20s, which I think it kinda made sense because iirc thats when tanjiro was thinking very hard in search for an answer at how akaza was able to predict/respond to all their attacks almost instantly , so you could say thats how the staff way of telling us how focused tanjiro was at that time, or maybe was just a weird directing decision lol
>>282482572Movie was a mess. Should have just been episodes. Had no plot or coherent structure. Bad CG in a bunch of shots despite its elevated budget and status. Way too much filler of people running and reacting to things to push forward the runtime, could have easily been 30% shorter. Akaza fight drags on for way too long. Not enough Doma who is way more entertaining.
>>282477980I desperately wish the next one includes the muzan speech.
Nezuko a best
>>282482567>But basically, why didn't Amane/Ubuyashiki tell Muichiro about his past and that he had a brother? IAre you serious?The dude suppressed the memory due to trauma, he didn't have brain damage or something. They also know this completely fucked up his personality something awful. Of course they didn't bring it up and endeavored instead to help him remember, IE treating his trauma so he remembered it, instead of just telling him it outright. Why the fuck would they just out of nowhere bring up the thing he pushed down because he was so traumatized by the event?It's not a plothole, its proof you should not be allowed near funerals with children present.
>Edge mode once.Based.
>>282482845In hindsight his comment is extra funny when you think about that conversation happening.>Honey, should we just tell him about his brother?>The... one he watched slowly die in front of him and then rot in front of him, traumatizing him so bad he completely changed as a person?>That one, yeah. Should we bring it up? I think he forgot about it or something. You remember him, right? Lets just casually mention it to this unstable child we gave a sword to.
>>282482845>>282482934They literally had a responsibility to tell him.He was walking around talking about having to rediscover his past and they knew everything.
>>282481197reminder that this guy is the original Kaigaku, and if people thought Kaigaku had too little foreshadowing, Kurumada makes Gotouge look like fucking Oda.>new enemy shows up suddenly>Hyoga goes "It can't be! It's you!">flashback reveals that Hyoga had a fellow disciple in the past who was totally his best friend and was presumed dead, and now became EVIL>the guy was shown, mentioned, hinted at or alluded to a total of ZERO times up to that point
>>282483049>They literally had a responsibility to tell him.Literally. Traumatized. You dumb motherfucker.They had a responsibility to help treat his trauma, which would allow him to remember, not to tell him that shit and make him relive the trauma before they've treated it. That they lucked out and Tanjiro managed to do what they couldn't figure out isn't a knock against them, it's just lucky that Tanjiro both was willing to be nice to him but also willing to throw hands when he went at a kid.>He was walking around talking about having to rediscover his past He suppressed those memories. Not like, a magic spell or brain damage or some shit. The fact he wanted to remember but couldn't was proof they should not be telling him yet because he himself wasn't ready to process it.>and they knew everything.Yeah they knew how fucked up it got. Think that might've been a reason to hold off a bit.
>>282483135>tomioka when Tanjiro beat Akazahttps://youtu.be/3NMhGCf20i0?si=ZUidJTLdojXaxEGk
>>282483135Don’t bother. Jeremy would rather claim that Jesus died by Heart attack if that means “KnY le bad”
>>282474712It slays Demon
>>282474712Demons getting slained
>>282474712A bunch of Slayers who kill Demons
>>282474712The last battle shonen. It's the best and no more are needed ever again.
>>282474712Really good manga, anime has high and low points. It understands its themes well, it has characters who are simple enough to convey the themes while not so lacking that they are one-note nothings, everybody plays a part, etc. I'd argue some of the most interesting things in the story are how unorthodox a lot of situations are handled, like how Akaza realized how little he cared about his immortality and a memory of his awful past finished him off, or how Muzan, proven to be unstoppable, winds up killed by things like people pulling him with a chain and running into him with a car, rather than just Tanjiro killing him with the Super Secret Special Move and the Super Secret Special Sword. Every part of it mattered, and on subsequent readings, even the "least" important arc, being the Swordsmith Village Arc, gave all of the necessary backstory and lore the setting needed to simply never waste time on it beyond individual character moments. It's the like most battle shonen should aspire to, rather than plodding on endlessly with increasing powerlevels and inane "Bigger, badder villain" arcs that never end.
>>282474712I'm personally not invested in the story since it's not for me (heroes are infallible, minor villains are tragic but you kill them anyways while main villain is big dum dum. Very safe trope for instant hit.) but it felt really on the nose when DS literally infantilize it's main villain before killing him roughly the same time JJK and MHA did. AoT too, to a lesser extent (visually) made Eren a crybaby retard in the ending. It's like there's a cultural shift I can't comprehend that demands your villain be stupid evil or some kind of editorial mandate passed onto them by busybody legislators.
>>282484340>roughly the same time JJK and MHA did. Dude, several years before they ended.And muzan means stillbirth, so at least it made sense for him.
>>282484340>tragic but you kill them anywayBy the time they are killed, these guys are reduced to the equivalent of a rabid dog waiting to be put down. Most of these already lost what was dear to them long ago and are completely mind controlled by Muzan.Killing them is more a liberation than a murder by the point it happens.>ridiculized villainsIs a thing i’ve kinda noticed, but KnY was honest about this since the very beginning.Muzan was always depicted as a petty asshole with personal biasses (like when he throw a fuss because his pet lower moon he related because of his similar childhood died) and both Tamayo and Ubuyashiki spent the whole manga calling him “coward asshole”.Goutoge wrote him in a very consistent way, where the guy is a Voldemort kind of retard where Human emotions are so Alien concepts to him he cannot even process them.
>>282474712Bad manga, good anime. No manga is hard-carried by its anime like Demon Slayer's. It's a poorly written series and an incredibly mediocre manga in every area, that excels in no area and has nothing distinguishable from other shounen.The fact that Ufotable had to change a lot of stuff to salvage it and make it somewhat presentable is very telling on the quality of the source material. You can't say the manga was carried hard by its art alone like Bleach's or My Hero's, I cannot stress enough how hideous the characters are. They all look like something you'd find on DeviantArt from the round doll eyes, the pastel colors, absence of shadows, round baby faces and way too many colors in general. One of the oldest characters is 27, but he could pass off as a 15-year-old.The fights are also very, very badly drawn. It's not even a matter of the art looking good or bad (JJK has bad art too but the fights look good), it's just that all of the fights are literal exposition dumps. Also, the sfx literally overlaps the art itself so you can't see what's happening 90% of the time. I don't know if it's intentional by the author to compensate for their lack of ability in drawing fights, but there's that.You also can't say the manga was carried by its writing alone like AoT's, because even for a battle shounen, the story is so utterly banal that it's impossible to call it good. The characters are all one-note with some even being hilariously unsympathetic (like the Wind Pillar). They're not characters, they're just concepts, which is why this series is popular, because they're just lego blocks that you can do whatever you want with.The power system itself is never explained. Breathing styles are all the same with no functional difference between them and BDA aren't really explained. The ranking system for both humans and demons is never explained either.
>>282484565I agree with your general statements but you know nothing on manga art if you think KNY or JJK are badly drawn. The average mangaka nowwadays barely has any knowledge of anatomy - you may not like the style and paneling of some battles but both KNY and JJK were miles above anything else on jump. Your reference to "power systems" also reveals you don't know what you're talking about, first because most shonens have absolutely incoherent powers systems, and often none at all, mostly because these are completely irrelevant in a manga aimed at children
>>282484565> The power system itself is never explained. Breathing styles are all the same with no functional difference between them and BDA aren't really explained5 og styles = specialization in different stances (fire =offensive, thunder=blitzing glasscannon , water=defensive/parry, rock=Tank/STR , wind= dexfag spam)Variation=application of said stances and specialization on different weapons (sound=ninja stuff+ thunder , snake= that weird sword + water, love= ribbonesque whip blade + fire) or applications of unique traits( mist: water but illusionist/speedblitzing, flower= water + perfect sight , beast = wind + inosuke’s impossible body)To be fair, you need a decented IQ to understand KnY, the writing is too much for the average tard hater
>>282474712I don't think its overrated by children but I do think its overdiscussed on /a/ since nobody has said anything new, meaningful and insightful about it in a decade
>>282484726JJK is very, very badly drawn. I cannot stress enough how ugly the art is and how much Mappa improvised it and made the characters look presentable. But the author also has a very good understanding of composition, paneling, 3D movement, flow, beat-by-beat steps, pacing and timing of a prearranged set of moves. Gege is a bad artist, but he's a good mangaka.Gotouge is a bad mangaka who can't do the basics and a very mediocre artist overall. Things like why do they divide a page this way, how do they guide the reader's eye, how do they compose a scene and whatnot they don't understand. I'm not putting the blame entirely on Gotouge, because the editors are just as complicit and don't even understand those fundamentals too, so they don't check on it. As long as there are drawings on the page, they think it's fine.
>>282484744https://youtu.be/XX4v8cvrMqs?si=i3Cs5q1rmsRjkLIHThere's no functional difference between any of the breathing styles
>>282474712Feels like extremely distilled shonen. 50% fairly impressive and spectacular fights and 50% excessive melodrama. It feels like every character has a dead sister of father to think about while you zoom into their flat fucking ufotable face and they remind you of it every time we cut to and from them in case you forget. And then you get thrown some neat sakuga when you're about to run out of patience and close the tab.
>>282474712well made slop
>>282484869stop shilling your video hereyou didn't even read the manga so your tranny opinions mean nothing
>>282484869>low IQ leftist with weird hairstyle fails to grasp the concept and understainding the mangaWow, such a twist!Also the same guy that called a manga made by a woman SEXIST and called the insect breathing a FEMALE STEREOTYPE… you know the Centipede is surely the frilliest , cutest and most feminine insect ever existed instead of a poisonus and ugly monstruosity!
>ENTER YOUR TOTALLY STEREOTYPICAL FEMININE AND WEAK CODED BREATHING STYLE
>>282485280would
>>282485240also there was a wasp based attack right?
>>282485240Feminism is pretty gay but he's still right and the power system is trash
>>282485342quirks are worse
>>282485342He is not. He went the most superficial opinion on the breathing styles , failing to understand their specific specializations and roles.Like the most blatant example is Gyuu vs Akaza compared to Rengoku.Regoku got it worse since his style was fully offensive oriented, literally what akaza’s compass eat for dinner.Meanwhile the more defensive oriented style like the water breathing + 11th form managed to resist most of the attacks since Gyuu’s kit is more adaptable and useful against someone who can redirect and predict your attacks.Or even how mitsuri’s whip blade was the perfect weapon against Hangengu’s final form because of her massive range.Or how the explosive and tanky style of Himejima is what it was needed to stand against an absolute DPS beast like koku’s moon breathing.Match up and styles matters a lot in KnY.
>>282474712Pretty animation (the biggest the reason for its popularity), flashy colors and an accessible short story that's digestible for the ADHD generation but I can't say it's written well. A lot of things about it's writing falls apart under the slightest scrutiny. It's pretty much a comfort food anime. Easy to eat, but no nutritional value.I'm still very surprised that for a series that breaks records, it has no creative DNA and there's no authorial voice behind it. It's been like what, 5 years since the manga ended? And it influenced nothing and left no cultural footprint just like One Piece. Then again, it also didn't invent anything and has nothing to offer to the table that wasn't offered 20 years ago. It's like a remix of tropes with good production value.
>>282485240I thought blacks didn't exist in taisho period japan
>>282474712>literally zero fanservicei dont see castrated anime, no fucking thanks
>>282485478These words had different meaning compared to now.
>>282485469Hi jimbo.
>>282485443All different breathing styles have different descriptions but in actuality there's no real functional difference between any of themEven the elemental effects are just imaginary, which makes it pretty shit
>>282485513>Even the elemental effects are just imaginary, which makes it pretty shitWuxia, it is literally wuxia.Like are we truly supposed to see these guys summoning actual elemental effect?The breathing is not like hamon, and even the hamon itself has limits of manifestastions that is not golden electricity, and it is a constant phisical power booster.There is a lot of functional differences, even just by counting the pillars using a different weapon compared to the average nichirin blade.Or how sanemi is the only one user capable to create real blade made of wind, or how the specialization matter both in the kit of the breathing styles and its variation.Again, gyuu’s style is better against akaza than rengoku’s. It is the most blatant example and it is so easy to see.It is like complaining about SW and the difference stances of the force users
>>282474712mid story carried by good animation, only reason to watch KnYthe power of unlimited budget works has no limits>>282485490>6 fingers>ai generated shitthat's why your favorite shounenshit has no good pornand imagine wanking your dick to any of these ugly sluts
is it really true that the visuals of breathing techniques are just inside the user's head? like, no flames or lightning or water?
>>282485490same.cocktease anime is for normies and virgins.couldn't care less about that shit.
>>282485607All of that is literally just imaginary, even that wind guy doesn't actually make wind. He just swings his sword really fucking hard. Only one with a breathing style that's different is demon 1 and that's because of his demon magic making moons
>>282485607>WuxiaMartial arts fictionSet in ancient CHINAThe genre you are looking for is "Jidaigeki"
>>282474712The snippets I've seen of it were entertaining. I'm just too old (22) now for shounen series. I can never properly finish one.
>>282474712pretty generic and boring but the animation is good.
>>282481197That's actually Bleach but OK.
>>282474712No joke, Demon Slayer is one of the greatest works in anime history. Undeniable.
>>282474712My opinion is that it´s nothing special but just happened to come out at the right moment. I believe audiences just got tired of their expectations being subverted and just wanted a simple story that´s neither more nor less than what it claims to be.
>>282474712Good show ruined by shitty japanese "humor".
>>282481197how the fuck is demon slayer saint seiya?Hashiras = gold zodiacs?In that case Made in Abyss is Saint Seiya tooWhite whistles = Gold ZodiacsBlack Whistles = Silver Zodiacs
>>282484565The best anime in the world, Initial D, has dogshit art.
>>282485490Daki cat fight with nezuko ,
>>282485645>>282481197>>282484565Oh yea the breathing styles Saint Seiya "attacks" , I totally forgot about it, yep it's totally Saint Seiya, well noticed anon kek
>>282474712I like Shinobu's and Mitsuri's huge tits
>>282474712Good Mid
>Boring repetitive fights where they just spam special moves, most of which are just some fighting poses with a cool animal motif background, not a single good choreography>Same characters getting in the same situations over and over (Shiryu getting blind, the Bronze Saints climbing up some stairs, etc)>Plot is nothing special, characters are all one-dimensional, not a single depth to them>Art is mostly shit with a horrible case of sameface syndrome>More gay innuendo than any fujoshit series ever made, because this series was written by an unironic homosexualKimetsu no Yaiba is just a prettier version of Saint Seiya. I bet if Saint Seiya came out much later in the internet generation with Ufotable animation, it would blow up.
>>282474712Haven't watched it yet so I cannot form an opinion.
>>282474712This is an entirely straightforward premise, but done really well. A lot of the little twists have surprised me, like the big strong smashy guy actually being the strongest dude of the entire group.
>>282474712Gyomei is the best pillar
>>282474712Watched the 1st Season, thought it was alright. Didn’t love characters or their designs, so I never picked it back up afterwards.
>>282488606This most importantly
>>282489586Same. There's just something about the character designs that's too ugly for me. It's probably the oversized heads and the fact that the artstyle makes them all look like kids.
For me it's Sanemi
>>282474712i read it from the first chapter in jump, and always enjoyed it with /a/ scanlating weeklyreally love how it felt like a proper dark fairy talereally glad for croc
>>282490071At least post a pic of him.
>>282488842>More gay innuendo than any fujoshit series ever made, because this series was written by an unironic homosexualKnY is one of the most heterosexual shonen ever.
>>282474712Best battle shounen in recent memory, though at its peak JJK was also really good
>>282474712I heard it has good animation but I've yet to see any proof of it
>>282474712Peak
>Omae wo korosu.
>>282490538>Sees a bunch of canon heterosexuals who all go on to get married and have kids>Anon’s first thought is “but I feel the gay coming off it! It feels gay I don’t care what they’re saying! Don’t you hear the innuendo!? They’re implying it damn it!”Think he’s got some stuff to discover bout himself. You know, that he’s a bad fanfic writer
>>282485490Daki runs around in her underwear, Nezukos clothing always seems to shrink in exactly the right places to show off her tits when she fights, and your pic related has a bath scene that exists for no other purpose. Is it bad? Nah, but let’s be real we did not need to see her reacting in the bath to something not even on her screen. But Croc apparently got told to put tits in there so they put in tits
>>282474712A very mediocre series that's too distilled to the point where it has nothing of what I like in a battle shonen. I gave the first season a chance and I dropped it halfway through, and I'm not really interested in picking it up either even with so many normalfags raving for it.
>>282489380The only big guy who isn't a jobber in shounen history.
>>282474712Mid
>>282488423>Hashiras = gold zodiacs?yes and no shun , its a kino/10
>>282491230The elemental sword slashes look cool, that's what they mean by good animation
>>282491633Same. I never liked or cared about Demon Slayer. Not even the anime by Ufotable that improved the badly drawn manga. There's no ambition, or dangerous narrative choices or willingness to dive into uncomfortable or provocative territory. Tanjiro never morally compromises, Nezuko is a generic moebait in a box, and the Hashira are walking tropes. Loud guy, crying guy, angry guy, quiet guy, snake guy, and girl. Even the emotional moments like Rengoku's death feel like they came off an assembly line. You feel them, but only as much as you'd feel a well-made ad. It's calculated emotional bait.It ends fast so there's that, but it's too polished for me to give a shit about it.
>>282492008I have similar feelings to Demon Slayer like I have with Japanese music. I don't like 95% of the music that comes from that country because it's suffocatingly pristine. It's engineered down to the molecular level like perfect pitch, immaculate mixing, no rawness or texture, no grit. Same with anime/manga, I don't like 95% of them and only like the rare 5% and they're so far and few between.
>>282474712Such a wasted character design
>>282492425>trash side character gets tossed out like trashI see no problem.
>>282492425Only thing wasted about her is not having fanservice scenes.
>>282485240Not at all surprised this retard is pozzed. The very idea of Demon slayer makes these troons seethe
>>282492425>written by a woman>still gets fridged
>>282474712it's a good shonenbut I don't understand it's incredible success.it's like a 8/10
>>282485607Dont bother trying to reason with a schizo who's only response is "muh it's all the same" with no explanation.
So after catching up with the anime I can say to anyone who hasn’t watched the show with a hundred percent certainty that demon slayer is liquid shit.>dog shit powers like breathing and demon sister and now new demon mohawk rival are arbitrarily weak or overpowered>new lightning breathing lol>fucking flash back after flash back after fucking flash back and another mother fucking flashback>the demons do zero damage and the heroes tank bullshit omega attacks and manage to get up stronger then beat the demon>moral fag characters everywhere>1st ep of season 3 with the cgi was horrible>season 4 is nothing happens>castle movie is flash back and talk and flash back and talk every hitIf you were someone like me who was trying to get into this and see what’s good just forget it. You fags were trying to talk shit about CSM when that show is a million times better than this crap. This show is bad, not JJK bad it’s Bleach writing bad but without any good characters. You end up rooting for the demons because the other hero characters are shit and either annoy you or bore you
>>282485317NTA but yes, and also a horsefly attack. Because clearly horseflies are cute, cuddly and feminine insects and not, you know, nasty little fuckers who can and will bite off your flesh on top of being ugly as sin.
>>282494975And what's the butterfly whore's entire design based on ?That's right, butterfly and butterfly = girlKnY girls have 0 personality other than being girl.jpg, making them no different from Naruto girls except Naruto girls actually won their fightsIt's still a very good thing that the author is smart enough to know that women are inferior to men and shouldn't be fighters. They belong in the kitchen and should birth kids
>>282494096See it's funny because feminists would argue that isn't fridging because the person who develops from her death is a girl. It's fine so long as it isn't a BOY who develops from her death, obviously. Kanao is the only one who develops from this.
>>282494096>>282495278>sacrificing yourself while killing the fucker that killed your big sister while also saving your adoptive sister ==fridgedYou guys are pathetic. So muichirou and Rengoku got fridged (Genya DUST’D) too according to your bullshit
>>282495370Also she killed the demon that famously prefer to eat women and has a creepy rapey smile
>>282474712like nearly all shounen, if the MC was a female it'd be 1000x better.as it is, I dislike it. I've never watched it though.
>>282494103Honest answer is that it's very simple and handles what it does very well. It sticks to its core themes well, the fights are fun, the character designs are showy without being too exotic, and you have a really easily digested Good VS Evil story with enough frills that it's more interesting than just that. Ufotable did a really good job on the anime, so people who are just interested in flashy spectacle also latched onto it well. There's really not much to it beyond it simply being a finely-tuned version of what could have been a cartoonishly shittier average battle shonen. My question is where does the feverish hate mob for this series come from? It's very popular, yes, but beyond that, it doesn't do anything so egregiously terrible that it warrants people devoting day and night to hating it. There's genuinely shitty series out there coming out every month, but KnY gets schizos on every single social media platform shrieking about it every chance they get.
>>282495744>It's very popular, yes,This and being a straightforward shounen series with a good boy protagonist is all it takes. It's not subversive or tragically dramatic enough.
>>282495744the schizo's are jealous fags of other shonen that shit the bed, it's that simple. Their seethe comes from knowing that a series as simple as Demon Slayer BTFO jjk, mha, SnK etc. simply by understanding that Execution beats muh subversion, muh unique plots, muh complexity for the sake of it or whatever other bells and whistles hack authors use to bait retards into reading their pretentious garbage.
>>282494096You're using that term wrong, fridging is a female character that gets killed/depowered to allow a male to have cheap character development, in the worst cases is a love interest that only exists to get introduced and killed so that the MC can be sad about it. In this case she devoted her life to kill Douma and sacrifice her body just to allowed other slayers to finally destroy him so it wasnt a writer tactic for the MC to be sad about her but an end to her arc.
>>282474712I love it. But I think the anime has a serious problem is overanimating the fight scenes and padding shit out. That's why I'll always reccomend the manga first.
>>282495922High risk high reward story >>>> safe and boring story SNK shat the bed but the best of SNK is still miles better than the best of KNYMaybe KNY is so popular with kids and women cause it's rinse and repeat and kids love to watch shit they can easily remember and women hate risks and it's written by a woman and women love playing it safe
>>282496642While i used to love SnK until the last 20 chapters….…these last 20 chapters are so bad i can’t find the strength to read it again anymore.And the worst thing is that if i dare to make any criticism online i will be labelled as “racist genocidal incel” because of it.Instead KnY became very dear to me the moment i caught up the series after the “infamous” episode 19 got it among my recomendations.The execution is genuinely good and carries a lot the simple premise.While snk,tpm and JJk had some better moments among the ones i loved (rts and Marley arc are among my favourite arcs), the quality took such an abyss fall that it is impossible to appreciate it again
>>282496642>>282496757shingeki betrayed it's own plot and characters, and that's why now it's literally nothing, less than dust.
>>282495922case and point>282496642SnK was always bad, it just became more obvious when the author had no real plan from marley onwards.
>>282495163Cool it with the misogyny
>>282496757Sheeps will be sheeps who gives a shit what NPCs think the ending was shit and Isayama should have let Eren win but he pussied out so his NPC fans don't send him hate mailsAnd until Marley SNK is easily a top 10 story, that Reiner twist is easily a top 10 plot twist>>282496995Pre timeskip SNK is still the best shonen ever and will likely never be topped and its also a top 10 anime while KNY isnt even a top 30 shonen and animeNeither salty fans or the last third of the story will make me change my opinion
>>282496642Hell no. There is no greater sense of betrayal than a story than nosedives after having a great premise and most fall into that category. Nullifies everything good that came before it knowing how it turns out. Thats why I will never recommend WEP.
>>282495163So Shinobu sexist because butterfly = feminineWhat about muzan who turns himself into a woman for no apparent reason? Or Douma who uses fans (used by women)?
>>282481197>but well doneThe Saint Seiya soundtrack is already better than the whole Demon Slayer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY5XVzab3G8
>>282495370Did you mean to click the second one or did your inability to read kick in?
>>282497327>What about muzan who turns himself into a woman for no apparent reason?Tranny>Or Douma who uses fansFag
>>282497203>Having to cope this badly by excluding 1/3 of a story to hold it in high regard, despite that 1/3 invalidating any merit the series had>YnK isn't a top 30 according to my copeNo need to argue with literal retards who couldn't see the reiner twist coming KEK
>>282474712>What’s your opinion on Demon slayerIt's the equivalent of an anime made by an AI: technically competent but souless.
>>282496642>SNK shat the bed but the best of SNK is still miles better than the best of KNYYet you never see anyone bring that stuff up anymore. When's the last time you saw any discussion about the highs of the Armored Reveal? When's the last time someone talked about Eren's transformation in a positive light? Good fucking luck finding anyone talking about the themes of freedom vs destiny for anything more than a leadin to how it sucked at that by the end.It was a high risk but there was no reward, and people had already left it behind before the final season dropped. Just knowing it was going to shit the bed made ratings tank and people leave in droves, meanwhile this show's breaking records despite knowing the ending for years. Do you think Dragonball Z took risks? Buu Saga undid everything different Cell saga did with Gohan taking over, every single death is undone by the end of it, and yet its lauded as the best shonen of all time. The riskiest thing Dragonball Z ever did was make Goku a dad, and that was at the start. Past that? It's the same formula, powerup and beat the bad guy who's evil unambiguously, and yet somehow might be a good guy in a little bit.
>>282497457Cope. I will FOREVER maintain that pre-timeskip SNK is the best shonen ever no matter how much negativity the series is shrouded inSNK is easily not just a top 10 shonen but a top 10 anime and a top 10 tv show up there with breaking badKNY isnt even a top 30 anime and top 30 shonen
>>282474712I want to suck Kanroji's tits on daily basis
>C-cope
>>282497359>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY5XVzab3G8 [Embed]That sounds like a Jewish execution camp.
>>282497578>I will FOREVER maintain that pre-timeskip SNK is the best shonen ever no matter how much negativity the series is shrouded inNeato, you're going to be doing it alone because most people aren't willing to just forget the latter half of a story that completely shits on everything good that came before to the point where you can't even enjoy it without thinking "Oh right, this is where that stupid time travel bullshit kicked in and none of this matters"GOT level making you look back on the journey with regret.
>>282474712I really like Nezuko and hate how much terrible art she has.
>>282476927I feel like very few people have this opinion, with most stating the anime is what elevated the series from mediocrity. Why do you prefer the manga?
Fun fact, the first piece of porn recorded on rule34 for KnY is of Douma.
>>282474712It's funny. The average shonen reader spends all their time condemning any title that contains asspulls, plot-armored MCs, villains with generic motivations and sappy flashbacks, and then goes on to watch and praise Demon Slayer, which does exactly all of that.
>>282497620Noone cares what you think and 4chan has declined since 10 years and is half deadPeak SNK is still the best shonen out there and better than HxH. If the run was good for 10 years and only the last 3 years was bad then the good shit negates bad shitEasily a top 10 anime, top 10 shonen and top 10 tv show
>>282497846Not him but I actually do like the more muted fights for a lot of them over the anime. I think an anime only who read Tengen Vs Gyutaro would be... confused.
>>282497846Not him, but I prefer the manga because it's concise. Like I said up above, the anime pads shit out like crazy and makes arcs go on way longer than they should. The only benefit of the anime's extras is that they add more character interaction but even then it goes on too long.
>>282474712greatest of all time, core /a/ anime
>>282474712Kino
>>282497989>Noone cares what you thinkCool beans, I'm talking about most social media at large though so unless you want to say "Literally no one cares what every other website thinks, only what I'm saying!" not sure what your point is.>Peak SNK is still the best shonen out there and better than HxHSure unless you read the parts that make those peak moments terrible now because now you know the awful backstory and time travel bullshit that created them. It's like seeing a sick fireball and finding out it was from someone lighting a fart on fire, leaves a nasty smell and some brown streaks where something cool once was.>then the good shit negates bad shitI disagree and obviously that's not an opinion I'm sharing alone>Easily a top 10 anime, top 10 shonen and top 10 tv showNot anywhere near it for me after that garbage ending literally ruined most of the cool moments retroactively, but you do you. Good luck bringing it up anywhere without it getting immediately shit on for that ending.
>>282498082>shounenshit>core /a/Everyone generally agrees Ev/a/ngelion is core /a/, sorry shouneshitter
>>282497989>then the good shit negates bad shitThe payoff of all that good shit was that last third, which makes it shit, yes.Not like you like it, mind you.
>>282474712This generations dragonball z
>>282495922
>>282498202Dragon Ball influenced an entire generation. Besides being a blockbuster, what is Demon Slayer's legacy?
>>282498275... being beloved all around the world and influencing an entire generation of anime fans, I'd guess.
>>282498119>walls of copeTldr noone cares about what you think or some little group of autists in your discord or twitter community thinks you're in the minority and you don't matterSNK is a top 10 anime and a top 10 tv show up there with breaking bad
>>282498304>using snk as a shield nowThat's a new low jeremy, but a funny one, because it's so easy to bully.
>>282498275>Single handedly making anime movies of actual manga content mainstream and viable to the point jjk, csm do the same.>muh what is Demon Slayer's legacyRetard
>>282498128Nobody cares about Eva. People just care about the girls
>>282498304>No, see! AN episode of the show was highly rated! IMDB says so!>No I will not show anything recent because it totally didn't make people retroactively hate it, I'll find someone who agrees somewhere, you'll see! Top ten anime(So long as you ignore half of it)
>>282498354>Single handedly making anime movies of actual manga content mainstream and viableStudio Ghibli already did it.
>>282474712Was promising, and read ahead. Got bored, and dropped before finishing.
>>282474712
>>282498387What is the manga Ghibli turned an entire arc of into a box office hit? answer quickly
>>282498455That doesn't matter, because Ghibli still did it first.
>>282498354I do think it's kind of undersold just how much Mugen Train changed the entire game for anime movies, and ironically it changed it from the standard set by Dragonball.Because pretty much since Dragonball's Non-Canon or Canon-Retelling movies, anime movies based off running shows had always been side pieces that could be enjoyed on their own, or more rather they were meant to be enjoyed wholly disconnected from their original works. You couldn't watch Tree of Might and pick a point where it happened in the series, it never could have, but that was the point. Drop in, see a movie about them punching these guys, and bounce. That was Shonen film for pretty much ever. The closest you got to something connected were recap movies that might at best have a scene or two added, but never did well because the better if longer version was right there.Mugen Train completely rocked the entire industry with its success, showing you can take an entire canon arc and put it on the screen and it wouldn't just do okay, it could thrive. We've already seen others following in their path to varied success, like JJK0, and upcoming stuff like Chainsaw Man hoping to recapture the lightning in a bottle, but Demon Slayer did what no other anime before it could. Showed that people wanted to see those stories on the big screen. Dragonball's era did some great things, but this new one feels pretty exciting. The Sakuga Gold Rush-Also started by Demon Slayer-has brought about some crazy changes in conjuncture with this.
>couldn't name oneExactly what i thought, Retard
>79>has to shift the goalposts to money when debunkedAs pathetic as One Piece fans.
I feel like Demon Slayer will ruin manga discussions forever. No one will care about the quality of the writing and storylines anymore, only how much the manga sold and the anime's box office gross. CSMfags are already doing this.
>>282498726Buddy we passed that point a long time ago.
>>282498726S1 fucked them up so hard coupled with how awful part 2 is they NEED some kind of win.
>>282497989>If the run was good for 10 years and only the last 3 years was bad then the good shit negates bad shitThis. Longevity of quality > consistency of mediocrity. Nobody will ever talk about Demon Slayer's arcs the way they'll keep analyzing Marley, RTS, or the Reiner twist.
>>282498553All of which makes the idea of questioning Demon Slayer's legacy fucking retarded. We can tangibly point out exactly the effect Mugen Train had, and this is not even mentioning Demon now setting the bar for fight animation for everything that has come after it.
>>282498767>the way they'll keep analyzing Marley, RTS, or the Reiner twist.... no one is talking abou that anymore, jeremy, all people talk about is the eren cuck scene and ONLY the eren cuck scene.That's snk's legacy, FOREVER.
>>282498324>The SnKek is still trying to save face with more cope.Picrel is Eren's legacy, deal with it.
>>282498781All of that has nothing to do with Demon Slayer itself and can all be attributed to Ufotable. Dragon Ball actually influenced an entire generation. So did Naruto and Bleach. And I'm pretty sure CSM is also inspiring right now. Demon Slayer, like One Piece, didn't inspire anything.
i like kimetsu no yaiba
>>282498837indian
>>282498837Me too
>"Ufotable could have turned any series into a hit like demon slayer" is the new cope to deny the influence KnY had on Csm/jjk going to the box office
Anyone here have the links to the entire /a/ translation of KnY manga that was linked to an earlier KnY thread?I've literally finished watching the entire anime series from S1 to S5 after seeing Infinity Castle twice in a movie theater and I want to read the manga now with proper translation.
>>282498936He loves ignoring the sheer amount of flops ufo had*cough*zestiria*cough*They literally have two popular properties, fate stuff and kimetsu.
>>282498936>>282498989Jeremy's muh ghibli cope got btfo, so he's just throwing shit at the wall and praying everyone is as retarded as he is to not notice it kek.
Feuerroter Pfeil und Bogen > Shinzou wo Sasageyo!
>>282498793>no one is talking abou that anymoreFaggot.https://youtu.be/PsNqKB_6Aa0https://youtu.be/d6tcgbEa5tchttps://youtu.be/rZ5WAUd3DtIhttps://youtube.com/shorts/DWr0gQFOj_I?si=nnuxssM1gz3kNF1phttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/twz4XhKHDZ0
>>282499064>Links to the very fucking meme people remember it for
>>282499064>two years ago>defending the cuck ending (including the cuck image)>defending the cuck ending>defending the cuck ending>defending the cuck endingjeremy...
>>282498726Yeah it's totally not the amount of losers seething at the movie success in here. Also>CSMThat canon movie performing like a filler movie? They shoudn't get cocky
>>282498726In 2013, AoT became a global hit, sparking discussions about politics and nationalist propaganda.In 2015, OPM became a global hit, sparking discussions about the battle shonen genre and fictional satire.In 2024, Frieren became a global hit, sparking discussions about the state of fantasy manga and anime in the isekai era.In 2025, Demon Slayer: The Movie became a global hit, sparking discussions about sales and box office.We K-pop now.
>>282498989Doesn't surprise me at all that he's a newfag who wasn't around when Ufotable was known just for Fate
>>282498989>zestiriaVideo game adaptations never translates well into anime. And one was actually marketed and pushed hard, backed by Sony Music (guess who owns Aniplex retard?) and had its top artists do opening songs.
>>282499128>skipping 2019
What did SNK inspire?
>>282499110>d-doesn't count!!Cry about it faggot.https://youtu.be/Z55VitcBd78?si=7e3-UTurY0zF8avZhttps://youtu.be/dyV1uGJvfV0?si=TqLe_3lJDRA-5uz9https://youtu.be/9qpDmQ6_utI?si=WgFNy3WJDJOXnhb_
>Linking to random youtuber video """essays""" as proofMan, that's a new low but I'm sure you'll keep digging.
>>282498871no u
>>282499216Kagurabachi and Oshi no Ko.What did KnY inspire other than making a lot of money?
>>282499222>shitting on the ending>defending the cuck ending>pls levi save this shit endingYou keep showing how all people do is talk about the cuck ending.At least waste more time looking for stuff about a series you don't care about.
>video essays as an argument in your own favorgreat posting by the j-tardit's better than ever even though it's year 6
>>282499269Kagurabachi is mostly narutoxjohn wickOnk is a fucking k drama turned anime.
>>282499269>Oshi no koWhat?
>>282498891based
>KNYfags seething at the mention on how it didn't inspire anything so they have to resort to muh sales to copeTruly the One Piece of this generation
SnK is remembered by the cuck bird ending. That's a legacy
>>282499269>Oshi No KoI suppose crash and burn endings is an inspiration.
>>282499351It'll leave rent free in your head, forever, that's a win.
>>282499161In 2019, Demon Slayer became a global hit, sparking discussions about sales.In 2020, Demon Slayer - Mugen Train became a hit, sparking discussions about sales and box office.
>>282499427>sparking discussions about sales.As a matter of fact, it was about anime quality, animation and production.But you know that already, jeremy, you were there losing your mind after all.
>>282499351And you will forever seethe about it
>>282499216All this tragic shonen you see now (including Demon Slayer) is a reflection of the AoT success. And I'll blame Isayama forever for that.
>>282499272no one gives a shit about your autistic copeSNK is still talked about years after the manga ended and the anime ended just because people don't talk about it here or your autistic chatroom don't doesn't mean it's not talked aboutPeople just discuss elsewhere. Youtube has the largest anime community so you really don't matter at all
>>282499597>just because people don't talk about it here or your autistic chatroom don't doesn't mean it's not talked aboutFunny how you disregard this argument when it's about kimetsuFUNNY
>>282499615>buy whatno one cares about your whataboutism autist take it up with someone who caresSNK is still talked about and is still widely considered a top 10 shonen if not top 5. KNY isnt even a top 30
>>282499597A lot of my normies friends disliked the ending. Non of them read the manga or are EHfags, yet even they could say that the final arc is bad.Beside, i find more offensive having to watch a manga i loved ,now reduced to a laughing stock, and used just to shit on another manga i like.Screw you JereSHIT
>>282498832>All of that has nothing to do with Demon Slayer itself and can all be attributed to Ufotable.>You know, Ufotable, the people who did this kind of animation before and it didn't become a global hit. Surely it's just them and the story has nothing to do with it.> Dragon Ball actually influenced an entire generation. It's hilarious that you think something like this isn't going to have an effect on the people watching it.
>>282498098It’s a good day to be an Akaza fan. Douma who? Kokushibo who? My guy clears those cucks.
>>2824747126/10 at most carried by animation and overhype asf
>>282499707your autistic group of friends is not the entire population so your anecdotal evidence is as worthless as your post the ending is shit but outside of a loud minority it was praised by everyone else SNK is easily a top 10 if not top 5 anime and if it was good for 10 years straight then the last 3 years don't matter at all, cry about it
>>282476927Animated Rengoku Gaiden when!?
>SnKek thinks he speaks for the masses on the cuck ending>Those same masses actually showing out for demonslayer in droves doesnt countDont you a dead snk thread to cope in? fuck off leach
>>282500211*have a
The manga is slightly better than mid.The anime is also slightly better than mid, but elevated to "good" by the animation quality.That's WHILE reading it.In hindsight, it's nothing special. Once the flashiness of the animation and the novel concepts in the manga wear off, Demon Slayer is just... mid. It doesn't leave a lasting impression like FMA, Frieren, etc, because the story is fundamentally a generic "good vs evil" tale.
>>282500818... still less black and white than frieren?
>>282500818>It doesn't leave a lasting impression like FMA, Frieren, etc, because the story is fundamentally a generic "good vs evil" tale.Oh so you're just spouting off random popular manga now.
>>282500029Praised by the same people who just forgot it existed. And the only reason they praise the final arc is because it “owned the chuds” despite having so many problems it was literally Fairy Tail tier of a bad arc
>>282500866Frieren is only black and white in that Demons are monsters, not people. But the core tension in Frieren is NOT "Good Guys vs Demons". The demons are just monsters that are especially good at tricking humans. (Which is why the mimic gag is clever. Frieren is so good at fighting monsters that seem human but she fails at dealing with monsters pretending to be inanimate objects.)The core tension is very complex, but a dumbed down version would be "Good Guys vs Time". That alone elevates Frieren above Demon Slayer, because it's not "the forces of good and evil", but individual characters coping with the passage of time and the weight of generations. Demon Slayer doesn't even start to address at all until the epilogue.>>282500992They're popular because they're more nuanced than "heroes slaying demons". They're both heavy on philosophy. The characters readily lend themselves to being viewed as metaphors for more complex topics. Demon Slayer isn't like that at all. It's closer to a Tolkien-esque work where the point of the story isn't to explore philosophical concepts, but to reflect on the nature of hardship and heroism and what it takes for good to triumph over evil. Lord of the Rings isn't extremely heavy on philosophy beyond the Fellowship being a collection of heroic people standing against seemingly insurmountable evil and turning the tide. That's exactly what Demon Slayer is.And the reason Demon Slayer is mid is because since The Lord of the Rings we've seen thousands of stories about noble heroes overcoming the forces of evil at great personal expense, and society has learned that the real world doesn't usually have black-and-white heroes and villains, so the best stories in the present day typically deal in shades of grey and/or focus on topics more complex than just "in-group vs out-group".
>>282474712It's alright. Kinda bland but I hate the hype culture around that tries to make it like Hollywood. I wished there were more factions to properly split the story into three parts and I wished breathing styles were actual abilities rather than metaphorical martial arts
>Zenitsu, you have to fuck my sister>Ume, you are my pride and joy for fucking old men for money>You don't understand, I NEED all three of my wives to become prostitutesIt's funny to think about how the Red Light District arc had a final battle between three cuckolds.
>>2824747123 hours is too long for a movie
>>282484726>Mangakas on average are shit, so kny is actually good because the shit has some corn in it
>>282498726I'd be happy to actually talk about Kimetsu but we have a permanent schizo that works 18 hours a day 7 days a week that will samefag any Demon Slayer thread on the board to death with inanities. Money is objective enough that there's nothing he can say so people started doing it, but it's ultimately just a scorched earth defense mechanism. But if we had a general it would be complete shit like SnK or CSM so he's doing Kimetsu a favor.
>>282474712Eh its okay. But I don't see why this is the series to have such success with a movie over One Piece, Naruto, Dragon Ball, etc. Like why?
>>282503188Kimetsu threads were comfy once
>>282503224It can be if people would just responding to very blatant retardation.
>>282500818Frieren is only remembered for elf porn and racist demon memes. It's just where the Erenfags jumped to about SnK self-destructed. It is most definitely not better than Demon Slayer.
>>282503542after SnK*
>>282499597>>282497989It's over bro... SnK was my favourite manga and anime too, I fucking loved it, but the ending can't be defended. It had some minor flaws before that could be easily ignored due to how good it's peaks where, but everything went to shit as soon as Annie got out of that crystal. More forced contrivances than ever, completely out of character behaviours, everything being pointless, some crimes being forgiven while others are glossed over... It really hurts, but it is what it is. A bad ending CAN ruin an excellent story.
>>282503188We can literally discuss it right now. Just talk around him. He loathes when people ignore him because he's more attention starved than a woman.That aside, something that always intrigues me is Rengoku's inner psyche. His dream is suppose to be one of bliss like everyone else on the train but his mother isnt alive in it and his father is still a depressed drunk.
>>282500818>In hindsight, it's nothing special.Name three tragic deaths better than Rengoku's
>>282474712Azaka backstory hits hard if you have to take care of someone, that line of>why do sick people have to apologizeOuch. Also his demise was poetic for someone who only cared about strenght. accepting defeat is far stronger than doing anything to not lose
I dont like it. I always watch the new releases hoping to change my opinion but it's just too generic
>>282503899Zenitsu's scenes with his grandfather hit me like a truck because mine died this year and I still hadn't find a stable job
>>282503542Frieren is peak. SnK was edgy shit for teenage boys.>>282503748>Name three tragic deaths better than Rengoku'spicreltook 3 minutes, and that's just off the top of my head.Rengoku's death wasn't as significant as it could've been if they'd built him up over a longer period and if the villain weren't such generic shonen trash. Just some brainless "hurr suddenly here's a guy that's super strong!" slop that shonen loves to pull out of its ass. Literally just a braindead child thinking, "Ok, but what if a new bad guy who was EVEN STRONGER showed up?!"Dozens of other shonens did it better years before Demon Slayer did.
>>282474712Literally separates subhumans with no soul (*S** types), who love this anime, from real human beings (*N** types) who consider this the Burger King slop of anime.
>>282474712Needed a gunslinger Hashira.
>>282474712I think its fine with a sweet message and dont understand why people get so pissy about it.
>>282503717Either the dumbest newfag on 4chan starts interacting with him or he just samefags. "Just ignore the guy that is willing to shit himself and roll around in it for literally 18 hours in a row" doesn't work on 4chan
>>282504658Genya is the only gunslinger because guns are subpar to decapitate demons.
>>282497846I'm that anon. First of all, I really like the manga. It is one of the few out there where I felt like I enjoyed almost every aspect of the story. Basically, I have no issues with it.When it comes to the anime, the beautiful animation doesn't really make me enjoy the fights and events any more than I already did. And since that is true for me, it is much easier for the anime to disappoint than hype me up. One mistake in my eyes will break any immersion I could've had watching the episode. I can hardly enjoy the anime because of that. But I can't deny that it is very well done despite my gripes with it.
>>282505257I was a manga only enjoyer for this series too but honestly vol 4-6 I remember kinda not enjoying but when we got to the Megan train arc it was pretty great consistently until the end. I really enjoyed this too. I like what ive seen of the anime besides the English dub voices of some of them. I thought the fights in the anime were really cool to see. Though the way some of them are paneled like at the climax of entertainment district really elevates the manga
>>282505257Pretty much the same. I'm like this with all adaptations. I'm the kind of asshole that gets almost no enjoyment out of the LotR movies for example. I appreciate the KnY anime music a lot though.
>>282498013>>282498045I understand preferring manga for that reason. I am pretty much the same with every manga I've read, after all, I have read Demon Slayer but not watched the anime. I'm just coming from the POV of someone who read the manga, did not really care for it and was told well, the anime helps a lot. >>282505257That's crazy to me. Something must have clicked for you. I don't understand how everything could work for you in Demon Slayer. Maybe I'm just a negative person, but I feel I am not above a "safe" manga (people say FMA is basically that and I love FMA) and still I was pretty harsh on Demon Slayer. Maybe just because it felt too similar to other battle shonen that I enjoy more.
Why did this movie take first place in the US? It didn’t top the box office in the UK.
>>282507038Sigh... To be honest I feel like I was being a bit disingenuous there. When I first tried reading the manga, before the anime was even announced, I wasn't as strongly charmed as I later became. To me, KnY wasn't anything special, the first arcs didn't really do anything to me (I didn't dislike it either, but it was a bit boring, like Frieren). And when I heard it was getting an anime adaptation I made the choice to wait for the anime. Ufotable did a great job with season 1. I watched it and enjoyed it. I then decided to continue with the manga, and it was at that moment that it happened. Rengoku's arc simply clicked with me. Maybe it is because I am an older brother myself, but seeing the love and strength Tanjiro displayed for his family touched me emotionally. Together with Rengoku, who kept an indomitable despite the loss of his mother and support of his father. It... it was great.The manga only picked up from there. Finally a manga where wounds both stayed or even killed. I came to really like Gyutaro's character too. I don't know man, but I really, really like it when a character give it their all for others. Tanjiro for his sister, Rengoku for his mother's resolution, Gyutaro for his sister, Hakuji for his father and Koyuki. For me that is and will always be the peak of story telling.I don't think I would've cared about KnY if Nezuko wasn't there and it was a story about revenge, about becoming the strongest slayer or whatever else. I really felt like I was well rewarded for keeping up with Tanjiro story and struggles (fuck you SnK).
>>282485513That's why it works. The elements being imaginary means you can't get bogged down in stuff like, "why don't they send a flame breather to melr Douma's ice". If you ever look at any big media giant with super powers in the setting, all the really big ones have it where all the heroes has essentially the same powers. Jedis, Power Rangers, Ninja Turtles, DBZ, it makes it easier for the audience to latch of to characters, I think.
>>282507938Early Demon Slayer definitely soured my perception of the series as a whole. I am similarly ambivalent in regards to Frieren, especially the more battle Shonen aspects. I'm an older brother too, but I'm 20 years older, so I always had a different relationship with my brother than most siblings. I can see that making the emotional stakes hit harder though. Maybe I should reread it because I genuinely don't remember a lot of this stuff, a lot of it washed right over me. This may seem a little silly, but one thing that sort of made me have a harder time with the dramatic portion of the series was how the afterlife was shown and depicted. We had ghosts too, so it isn't like it is metaphorical. We know people just go to an afterlife, so I had less concern for the characters. Dragonball and whatnot obviously has that too, but Dragonball for me was always best as a comedy. A lot of Demon Slayer's comedy also didn't work for me.
> Continuing from 282507938The anime misses me when they focus on the cool aspect of a scene rather than what makes it interesting. For example, in the manga Nezuko goes berserk and begins to strike at Daki with all her might, going for maximum damage and straight for Daki's head, who also counter attacked quite fast. In the anime however, Ufo made it so Nezuko became sadistic instead, rather than strike at Daki with all her might, Ufo made it so Nezuko tortured Daki, who also just stood there and took for some time for absolutely no reason (Daki also shouldn't even be bothered by pain in that scenario, considering her capabilities as a demon). Ufotable destroyed both their characters just for the sake of it. They also missed things that people who actually care about the manga pay attention to. Like when Daki cuts Nezuko's limbs mid strike but Nezuko is still able to hit her. Gotouge goes for a show don't tell approach and draws Nezuko's limbs still connected through her blood, later revealing that Nezuko can use of that artifice to reattach her limbs, eliminating the need to spend a lot of energy (which she doesn't have) fully regenerating them.I also hate how Ufotable handles the production. As someone who values consistency a lot, seeing clear differences in direction and storyboard from one episode to another bothered me a lot. God I despise Ufotable, I could go on and on about it but... as long as their 100% corporation and 0% passion work gets people to talk about KnY... fine by me.
Forgot to explain why I disliked the anime in regard to the scene of Nezuko regaining her limbs mid strike against Daki. Ufotable didn't pay attention and in the anime her limbs fly off, making it so she would indeed need to fully regenerate them (Akaza speed regeneration) to be able to do what she did.
>>282508204That makes sense. If I was that much older tha my siblings I don't think it would hit me as hard. In my case, I've always felt I needed to demonstrate that I am able to do things, to set an example. Still, despite having the luck of being born with high logical intelligence and producing results without much effort in school, I always felt like I was missing something, that I wasn't doing enough. However I was never able to find the motivation to do more. That's is one of the reason I thought it was so beautiful when those characters did so much despite the adversities.It is totally fine if it doesn't click with you. Although I find it weird when people criticize the story by saying the author wants you to feel things... Like, I never felt that way, so I really can't understand this perspective. Sometimes I would simply skip a backstory I was not interested (looking at you mansion demon) and still enjoy what comes next, not giving a fuck.I can also see what you mean about the afterlife. But when I put myself in the place of characters who just lost their loved one, the pain would still be there (much like for those who believe in the afterlife irl, it still hurts them), so I can still get emotionally invested. I do think the reincarnation felt a bit cheap though, but not enough to take my enjoyment of the story.
>>282508733Ah, being able to skip a backstory and still think highly over the work is so different from my way of consuming media. It would affect how I saw other similar flashbacks, for example. I did at times feel the writing was "manipulative", but as you say, you can't blame her for wanting to add some pathos. It did feel a bit samey after a while and at times, unearned. If that makes sense. Anyway, good chat.
>>282474712shit story carried vary heavily by the anime, at least it doesn't pull punches for things like character deaths though
>>282508309Your criticisms remind me of how some Fatefags hate their adapations for sacrificng lore accuracy in favor of spectacle.Especially in regards to the Heavens' Feel movies where it cuts down many character moments and shortens many cool stuff like Shirou vs Kotomine.
>>282474712They don't redeem this cutie with the power of love, so it's a shit series.
>>282508909Some say that the anime addition of the Elder Sister doesn't make sense with the setting.She's way too nice to be a demon and given how Muzan usually wipes their memory and makes them crazy psychos, her wanting the Daughter demon to her sister makes her look too sympathetic.
>>282508808It helps that it’s a plot point. As the demons die and their souls are freed (fully or partially) from their immortal bodies, they start to reminisce about their past. We, as readers, are shown this only at that moment, because that’s when it makes sense for it to be revealed. So when people (not you) say they don’t like that the author is being manipulative with their feelings, what they should really say is that they don’t like this plot point. But since it is a plot point, changing it would mean changing the demons’ characters altogether, which would basically rewrite the whole story. It’s not something simple. At least it’s consistent, which I appreciate, but I get why it still doesn’t work for some people. Thankfully I caught onto that pretty quickly, so even when it bored me, it didn’t ruin the story for me. It was fun talking with you.
>>282498304The fact the Avatar is number 7 discredits this list
Possibility?
>>282509353Yesmen loathe anime, it will be nominated without a chance of wining.
>>282474712The Movie was great!
>>282508909Shinobu deserves to be raped by Douma in hell for all eternity
>>282509353>Yesmen loathe animeWhy?
>>282509353Nominated for sure, thanks to Sony's backing it up, but it'll lose to Zootopia 2
>>282509353Imagine the meltdown if it won, shame it can't.
>>282477637known demon's slayer hater Jeremy got baited into posting his passport to "dunk on knyfags". what it did was outing him as a brown immigrant in denmark. also his mattress is horribly cum stained.he got so assblasted he stopped trying to doompost the sales of the movie and is now back to his usual "kny bad" threads, open two more threads and you'll see a slew of identical posts reiterating the same thingsthat's this brown immigrant's only thing he has going on in his life, raging against an asian comic
Does the seething for this series come from the fact that Japan really liked it? I don't understand how you could hate a show this much
>>282479253>>282479479based! non-sequitur, but i made a group to talk about what /a/ stuff you're enjoying, since it's rare to find fun conversation on this site nowadays. whoever's reading this, if you're okay with being nice to each other and have any interest, see pastebin.com/RFk9GRmH and if you're not interested, feel free to report and ignorealso i recommend gintama which has good thematic writing.
>>282509353Zero. They already tried with Mugen Train and the Academy told Japan to fuck off.>>282510307Sony already has KPop Demon Hunters, which is far more likely to get nominated because it's s standalone movie (Oscars prefers that) and not based on a TV show. Money doesn't win your way into the Oscars.
just got back from my second viewing and yeah the flash back's pacing hurts the filmi am talking about the bear one and the subsequent flash back to Tanjirou dodging Akazamake the bear flash back 2 minutes tops instead of 10
>>282509353Just Amerifats at Crunchyroll looking for ways to waste money
>>282512192mostly millennials seeing their childhood shonen being forgotten
>>282512192>spic thinks Japan likes it because they follow herd mentality YWNBJ (or a woman, you want to be that too)
>>282474712It exists. Very straightforward battle shounen. Tangerine should have died. The anime is what made it giga popular, 10/10 timing/studio choice.
>>282511673He's also back to his "all KnYfags talk about is sales!" after it's success annihilated all his predictions.
>>282474712Conventional but charming
>>282514456>"all KnYfags talk about is sales!"That's true, though. All they ever do is talk about how much money it makes, but never another the actual content. That's why it influenced nothing and left no cultural footprint. It's like Avatar.
>>282474712Carried hard by the red light district arc, and the fact that literally every female in the show is incredibly cute.
>>282514689Post hand
>>282474712Anime that elevates the boring manga by adding nice animation and music.
>>282512721>They already tried with Mugen Train and the Academy told Japan to fuck off.didn't Godzilla Minus One win an academy award last year?
>>282509353This is just ratmen at Crunchyroll looking for a way to spread Sony investor's money around Hollywood gladhanding for their next job.
Still one of the best scenes made in past few years.
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I watched Infinite Castle last night and it was the first time I ever watched anything Demon Slayer. I mainly went because reviews were so high.Admittedly, I can see how this was a mistake because absolutely jack shit is explained about the world. I got some peeks into character's motivations thanks to flashbacks, and while I did enjoy the characterization, the flashbacks themselves seemed pretty... pace breaking, I guess? It's sort of hilarious that the upper 3 demon dude is just standing their without a head thinking about back to the time when he had a sick wife (also a bit strange to characterize a character that was previously "I hate da weak grrrr" to "i always wanted to protect my sick dad and gf ;_;" but I can kind of see it).Pretty animation tho. Action was very kinetic and was a treat to watch. Definitely not the place to jump in if you're a newbie, though.
>>282520203you jumped in the middle of the storyline, what were you thinking?
>>282520203>Admittedly, I can see how this was a mistake because absolutely jack shit is explained about the worldWell yeah, it's kind of an expectation as it is a completely direct continuation of where the anime ended. Nice to see perspective from someone who has no idea.>(also a bit strange to characterize a character that was previously "I hate da weak grrrr" to "i always wanted to protect my sick dad and gf ;_;" but I can kind of see it).He effectively got brainwashed after getting stabbed through the face.
>>282474712its solid.
>>282511673Why is he called 3 inch though? Did he get baited in posting his cock?
>>282497989damn bro why are you so desperate?
>>282520203>(also a bit strange to characterize a character that was previously "I hate da weak grrrr" to "i always wanted to protect my sick dad and gf ;_;" but I can kind of see it).Why strange that's the point. Akaza whole purpose was to take care of others, he can't live without a purpose. That's why he kills himself when gets his memories back, he doesn't need to get stronger anymore
>>282474712I really enjoyed it. I don't have time for those long shonen I used to watch as a kid/teen, and I've become too jaded for "I want to be the very best" plots, so when I heard Demon Slayer was just 200 chapters about saving a family member, I gave it a chance.Great decision.It reminded me of why I loved shonen in the first place.
>>282521229I mean strange from a storytelling perspective. You're basically having a character typed one way to become it's opposite. Again, I largely got it, he hated the "weak" people who poisoned his found family, and you could also argue that the reason why he hated the green checkerboard dude so much was because he reminded him of his human nature (which was to protect and help those weaker than himself). Hence the whole part where he is trying to brush off the memories of his former master at one point.Oh, as far as the overall story, this is what I undestood it to be: Demon Lord exists, made a bunch of generals by feeding humans his blood. Head of the Demon Hunter group was gonna die so he used his last remaining strength to do some sort of trap for the Demon Lord. Now all the other Demon Hunters are searching through this Infinite Castle (Which looked really sweet btw, also cool seeing it reorganize itself in beat to the string guitar) for the demon lord to try and kill him before he can regain his power.Also there is a little girl who the demon lord wants to be reborn as (nice) because she can go out in the sun, and from what I can tell the sunlight is the only weakness this demon lord has, as he's just too OP otherwise.Did I get close?
>>282497578I agree RtS is the peak of modern shounen but discounting KnY's strengths because of it is stupid, especially since one is a battle shounen. Not a single fight in SnK comes close to the extended intensity of Kokushibou's fight or Gojo vs. Sukuna but that's by design because SnK isn't that kind of manga. Similarly of course KnY won't have the narrative depth that SnK has because it's far less plot-focused by design.And if we can section out parts of series to rank them as the best, then the first bit of Death Note, especially before Misa comes in, is the actual best shounen of all time.
Did anyone that read the manga before watching the movie really not think that post-transparent world Tanjiro warning Akaza before attacking was part of reaching the selfless state? I thought he was obviously in a mental state beyond common sense.>>282520203There is further context in the Mugen Train movie where Akaza first shows up. Another pillar is in that movie who basically acted exactly as Akaza wished he could have as a human, and they seem like they're supposed to be opposites in that movie. The revelation that Akaza's philosophy is just a perversion of what he really believed in life switches them from opposites to parallels.
>>282522776*and I guess a much simpler piece of context is that demons usually (the exceptions mostly being willing demons) forget their human lives on a conscious level. I guess that would be pretty confusing in this movie because both the other demons have complete recall of their human lives.
