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Why did Fire Force and Dr Stone failed to capture a new generation, like Kimetsu no Yaiba, My Hero Academia and Jujutsu Kaisen did?
The anime of both series will conclude in less than a year, just like with MHA (and Kimetsu in a bit more) but no one seems to talk about them
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Esl retard thread.
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I don't know what answer you're looking for other than that they're less popular...
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>>282500213
Dr. Stone jerks off modern civilization, which most people secretly hate
Fire Force is harder to answer. I personally found it to be too heavily concentrated on fights, and wanted some more variety
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>>282500213
Dr. Stone doesn't appeals to fightfags like Kimetsu, MHA and JJK.
Fire Force is not a Jump manga.
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>>282500213
Dr. Stone is way too unconventional to reach mass appeal as simple as that. I mean it's not even a battle shounen so it never had a chance.

Fire Force is more conventional but still less than the biggest shounen in really important ways. Fire Force is harder to dissect but I think the biggest factor is the general setup and plot which doesn't follow the very formulaic structure all big shounen have.
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>>282500560
>Fire Force is harder to dissect but I think the biggest factor is the general setup and plot which doesn't follow the very formulaic structure all big shounen have.
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>>282500819
It's fine, you'll get it one day.
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Dr. Stone had a pretty shitty adaptation, and Fire Force is just generic
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Dr. Stone doesn't have magic power fights and Fire Force has mostly unlikeable characters and the most unfunny "humor" I've ever seen
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>>282500213
I tried watching Dr. Stone, but I gave up like 5 episodes in, hate EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER, the MC is a flanderization or exaggeration of the "Yagami Light" type character, and don't get me started on the screaming friend and his hollow girlfriend.
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>>282501340
The author only knows how to draw cool shit and has no other skills. Damn fine artist though.
>>282501164
That's disappointing to hear. Soul Eater was funny sometimes.
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Fire Force did well for a WSM series. It is one of the best battle shounen series the last 10 years.
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Fire Force is peak shounen.
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>>282501456
> It is one of the best battle shounen series the last 10 years.
I wanted to dispute this but then I remembered there wasn't much competition from anything that started in 2015 or later so that's probably true. It's at least top ten or twenty from this time period, if not THE best.
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>>282501440
>The author only knows how to draw cool shit and has no other skills. Damn fine artist though.
The writer and the artist are two different people.
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>>282500213
Black Clover could have been good if it didn’t waste so much time and actually finish the main story.
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KnY and JJK are big dumb and flashy.
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>>282500213
They're just shit. There's a reason we've only had a single 'big 3' in the past 25 years. Manga editors have terrible editors who force mangaka to destroy their creations in the pursuit of chasing poll results. Anything that has a solid opening is doomed to become trash as the editor forces it to adapt bad trends and shitty feedback sent in alongside weekly polls.
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>>282500415
zoomers don't like sex
Fire Force has way too much fanservice and overabundance of attractive female characters for them
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>>282501638
>cool visuals bad
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>>282500213
Dr Stone was killed because the author announced too soon the manga would end soon. So the adventure was way too short
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>>282501647
To be fair geges editor was the reason jjk was so popular, too bad Gege nuked jjk by removing characters people liked and forcing his awful oneshot characters as the center.
He even reduced the 3 clans to his 2 oneshot characters kek
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Fire Force is basically just Fairy Tail but better but it also has the same tropes that will deter most normalfags from watching
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>>282500213
Fire Force's doppelgangers were meta kino though.
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>>282501658
It's the immaturity of the way it's portrayed that really does it
Too much "Look! Get horny!" and "Boobs, now laugh!"
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>>282501859
That, plus the fanservice was centered on the least attracctive girl in the cast.
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Fire force was taken over by elitist pseuds so it's dogshit.
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>>282500213
Dr. Stone was good for like half of first season, then it got worse and worse, current airing season is so bad I will probably drop the series.

Fire Forces is good, but it's all tropes
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>>282501658
>Fire Force has way too much fanservice and overabundance of attractive female characters
And the girls get completely neglected. The nun, catslut and musclegirl all got very little development up until the very end.
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>>282501658
And MHA doesn't?
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>>282500213
Dr stone at least tried to be original, was popular here and caught the eye of nerds, meanwhile fire force is a pile of shonin bullshit we all know about.
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>>282500213
There were a lot of plot events in Fire Force that just happened without having anything leading up to them. So you either had to take everything at face value without thinking much, or you pay attention and the bad story telling just hits you in the face and it becomes apparently dumb.
While Dr. Stone was made in Japan, it felt 10x as reddit that Steins;Gate.... but without Steins;Gate well written characters or plot.
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>>282500213
I didn’t really like dr stone but fire force visuals was amazing
Story was alright too, in fact very few annoying characters compared to other shonens. I usually can’t stand shonen mcs
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>>282503309
There is no fan service or sexy characters in MHA.
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>>282500213
Fire Force is unironically too high IQ for the masses. It has a lot of unconventional storytelling and story beats that scares the common anime watcher. They’d rather something simple like Demon Slayer.
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>>282500213
Entertainment moves too quickly these days due to social media- especially among the younger crowds who are quite literally addicted to it. It makes it INCREDIBLY difficult for anything to actually stick when you're constantly being bombarded with "new thing". We make fun of zoomers and the like for having the attention span of a gnat's ass for a reason.
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>>282501956
>least attracctive girl in the cast
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>>282503708
Oh look a Rick and Morty fan
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>>282503566
>While Dr. Stone was made in Japan, it felt 10x as reddit that Steins;Gate.... but without Steins;Gate well written characters or plot.
Don't say that to me anon, I was getting hyped with this thread to watch the show and now you mention that. I loathe Steins Gate.
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>>282500213
>Why did Fire Force and Dr Stone failed to capture a new generation
Because I Fing Love Science The Anime and mean looking firefighters don't have mass appeal

>like Kimetsu no Yaiba, My Hero Academia and Jujutsu Kaisen did?
These works because they use the tried and true brainless nekutsu formula
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>>282500213
What about Sakamoto days?
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>>282500213
They weren't shit enough.
Most popular things are bad.
Good things getting popular is an abnormality. It's possible, but usually by accident and its popularity has nothing to do with its actual quality. Marketing, exposure, RNG social media clicks and so on.
Take a look at this board as a further example. Are most of the things that get discussed here good? Of course not. Good things are blessed to have one good thread every few weeks and die before 100 replies because it has less mass appeal.

Admittedly I dropped Dr. Stone. It was a good show, I liked the characters and the author seemed to know his shit about science stuff (though of course it's all exaggerated for drama and thrill). Fire Force took a while to Warm Up but it's also a nice anime/manga.
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>>282503915
>Because I Fing Love Science
And you constantly think about quantum physics and black holes?
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>>282500213
suika is lonely
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>>282503942
Still too soon to judge it's popularity
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>>282503873
>I loathe Steins Gate
Many do.
Always try things for yourself though (3 episode rule equals 1 hour, basically, which isn't much given you watch anime in the first place), the previous post wasn't particularly informative, so you my end up liking it in the end.
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>>282500213
I think my biggest gripes with each series are
Dr Stone's character designs never change, not when they get access to better textiles nor as the 10 years pass by
Senku starts the story at 15 and ends at 25, not counting any stone time, but an outside observer would never know, and that lack of visual storytelling might say that nothing really happens
Fire Force's trouble is that the story is back loaded, the majority of the good stuff doesn't happen until the last third
Like, the story is fine but there's a long lull between Shinra and Sho's fight and best dad deflecting a nuke or Dragon's introduction
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>>282503817
Yeah sometimes it's just bad timing. You really need to get people in that brief lul between the hot new things.
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>>282500213
both of them were, by design, fairly niche series rather than targeting the LCD
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>>282501658
Zoomers like sex, the men just can't afford it and the women have insane standards. Go to any fanfic forum and advocate banning erotic literature, tell me how it goes.
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>>282505160
I'm gonna move the goalpost and say sex and sexy involving characters under 17. Millenials are iffy on it and Gen X doesn't give a fuck and this reflects in their respective media, especially anime.
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>>282500213
because they waited too many years to adapt the end of fire force and let the hype die
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>>282501490
a literal masterpiece.
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>>282500213
Because FF and DS are shit.
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Fire force is too strange and avant-garde. It's not grounded and realistic enough to capture fans' attention like Soul Eater was. Ohkubo kinda lost his touch.

Dr. Stone was cool at first but then the story goes to America, the conflicts and science go beyond the audience's willing suspension of disbelief, and then the mangaka got told to end it so the ending was rushed and really unsatisfying (durr aliums)

The conflicts in KnY and BnHA remain grounded even as the spectacle increases:
>Tanjiro v Muzan
>Deku v Shiggy (AM v AFO)

In JJK things are a little different and the entire popularity is based on character design and the anime (with props to the manga for basically being rushed storyboards for the anime anyway). The hype will die next season when the conflict gets muddied and retarded, and then people will be mad about the final fight and how it's handled, and then people will forget about it EXACTLY like they did with Attack on Titan.
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>>282505645
Massive cope.
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>>282505705
I had like twelve different points, pick one.
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>>282501658
Fire Force doesn't have any more fanservice then One Piece or Bleach. Probably less even.
It's a very tourist-y take to think Fire Force has a lot of fanservice.
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>>282505724
All of 4 of 'em.
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>>282505645
>then the mangaka got told to end it
He always gave himself a hard deadline of five years
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>>282505854
I accept your concession, glad I could help enlighten you.
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>>282500213
Too much testosterone for your modern western audience (niggers, troons and white women)
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>>282505925
cope.
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First legal get the elephant out of them room, JJK was only popular because it had a million dollar marketing budget and production values, which has been something Shueshia has been doing for a while, Kimitsu no Yaiba and One Piece are their only actual japanese successes, if you take a look at their financial reports, you will see they barely make money with new franchises, because they have to spent too much so they can be popular.

Dr. Stone worked when the story was in the primitive state of the world, the more advanced they became the less fantastical the story looked and more nonsensical and boring the cast bloated with super geniuses able to do anything the plot required of them turned out to be, there was zero progress in terms of character development for anyone, all they ever had were status quo changes from villain to hero.

Fire Force suffered a lot from typical japanese autistic plots centered around religion, the story was much more interesting when it was a depressive battle shonen in a crazy religious world where people suddenly started burning and there was this conspiracy from basically a death cult, then the story suddenly went full autism with symbolism, chosen ones, fire powers turned to be basically magic and a very unnecessary crossover with a very old work which sorry to say, also was very forgettable.
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>>282505645
>Soul Eater is grounded and realistic. Fire Force is LESS grounded and realistic then Soul Eater
>some headcanon about Dr.Stone's editor
>BnHA remained grounded
>praise for the JJK anime which adapting nothing correctly. Defending Mappa at all.
Let me guess. You're a BnHA fan. lol.
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>>282500213
Arthur might be the absolute peak "jap humor" character and its a massive debuff
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>>282506033
Normies always have this cope about JJK. You didn't even know it existed until it became popular but you still think you know shit.
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>on season 5
>y it not popular?
Retard
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>>282506129
Same anon you answered, Arthur was still interesting when it felt the knight thing was more of a gimmick rather then his literal drive, it almost feels like the author liked his character so much he centered the whole plot to justify his bullshit.
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>>282506145
No one did, that was my point, they sold you the big new thing and you enjoyed it, until you realized you really didn't care that much about it.
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>>282505828
Fire Force's fanservice was more in your face, in that there was literally a character whose gimmick was their clothes constantly coming off and their ass and boobs being shoved into the camera when this happens. Then on top of that you remember this character is like, 17 years old which makes her a little kid in the eyes of zoomers.
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>>282506297
I was reading JJK since the beginning. That's the point. I even called it because I know what I'm talking about; you didn't know it existed but once it became popular you chose to hate it to be different*.
A 4chan normie
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>>282506299
Rather than more in the face, Fire Force literally uses fanservice as a character mechanic, I won't lie, it's cringe as fuck.
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>>282506390
I don't hate the series, I just believe many other works that were axed would have reached the same artificial popularity with the same level of investment
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>>282506299
That is no different then any other fanservice is presented. In fact Fire Force takes it down a notch by making it the gag. Its a really superficial take
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>>282501658
its not about the amount, fire force just has shit fanservice that gets in the way of anything interesting instead of actually enhancing it, so it comes off less as "here's a little something to enjoy yourself more" and more as "please ignore how dogshit everything else is, there's BOOBS!!"
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>>282506085
>Soul Eater is grounded and realistic. Fire Force is LESS grounded and realistic then Soul Eater
The conflict remains grounded generally: collecting souls to evolve the partners. The other stuff, like the insanity with Chrona is introduced well and tied into character arcs, and then the book of eibon arc also remains largely grounded. Fire Force just throws new shit at the reader/viewer without explaining anything or tying it into character arcs.
>some headcanon about Dr.Stone's editor
Are you saying the ending WASN'T rushed? Because there was a deadline?
>BnHA remained grounded
Yeah: quirk singularity was signposted very early as a problem, the transfer of the fight between AFO and AM to Shiggy and Deku was thematic and well done, and generally the scope of the conflict remained the same: AFO is a bad guy and needs to be stopped.
>praise for the JJK anime which adapting nothing correctly. Defending Mappa at all.
The anime looks good and is animated fairly well. Some of the fights are overdone. The narrative structure pissed me off as a viewer by after reading the end of the manga I can kind of understand it, but the narrative is permanently crippled and flawed by NEEDING to center around Itadori and Sukuna, but requiring context from the previous generation for any of it to make sense (Yuta's story, Gojo, Geto, and Toji's story). Telling the story chronologically means a massive shift in who the main characters are; telling the story how they did required breaking chronological story telling which is unpleasant for the audience. At least everything LOOKED good. Also the power system made no fucking sense which is a mark against it entirely.
>Let me guess. You're a BnHA fan. lol.
No, it's a fatally flawed work too, and it's clear the mangaka hated the story he had created by the end and would have preferred to drop it or at least take a long hiatus. I'm out of characters to explain further.
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>>282506431
Sure you do.
That's backwards. Series become popular and are then advertised. It's easy to see too. Do you think Bleach or BnHA were less advertised then JJK? Or Sakamoto and Chainsaw Man, and One Punch Man? Somehow though, they all sold less.
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>>282506085
>praise for the JJK anime which adapting nothing correctly.
and thank fuck for it, its the only reason people gave a shit about the manga, specially season 2
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>>282506472
Thank you Ohkubo-sensei. You filtered another one.
They are not worthy. Thank you
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I know how to fix Dr.Stone.
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>>282506533
Your taste is dogshit. JJK fights are excellent and... why am I wasting time with a Crappa simp.
Good luck man. Lifes tough.
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>>282506550
fairy tail is a weird series because it's pretty enjoyable despite having a shit plot and one note characters. The chemistry they have elevates the whole thing, outside of forced drama, and the setting is simply fine enough
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>>282505645
JJK manga is far better than the anime.
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>>282506546
>filtered
i'm sorry you lose any critical ability or taste the moment a naked anime girl appears on screen anon, i hope someday you learn about hentai so you dont end up rating every other media by how hard it makes your dick
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>>282506455
>Its a really superficial take
Yes, and zoomers are superficial.
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>>282506533
Tacking on to this, the manga is barely legible. I mean that literally: the art is so loose it's actually bad, and hard to tell anything that's going on. It's sort of the opposite of ONE's OPM webcomic, where the art has really good perspective and pacing, but the technical drafting is just bad and amateur. JJK's manga is like a rushed storyboard for the anime, which WORKS as that, and does produce a good anime once skilled artists and animators fix it.

But I'd never want to blow up a page from the JJK manga and frame it and put it on my wall. NEVER.
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>>282500213
because fire force is an unfinished prequel to an unfinished 2007 anime?
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>>282500213

Fireforce is kind of meh and it really doesn´t help that the MC power is literally the worst one among fire powers. Shinra is also shallow as fuck. Wanting to be a hero is just not something particularly interesting.

Dr Stone starts ok but it starts going downhill after Tsukasa´s arc. It has some good moments after that now and then but overall the antagonists are just weak and the focus shifts away from the DIY stuff in favor of flimsy plot points. Not to mention the petrification fluid starts to get as abused as the dragon balls to undo any meaningful consequences.

Now, i´m not sure if kids these days make that kind of analysis but they must at least feel some of that on some level.

Kimetsu is nothing to call home about either though. It just happened to release at a point in time on which people wanted something flashy and simple. IDK about the other 2, i totaly skipped those.
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>>282506634
Filtered even harder then I initially thought. It brings me great joy to know the unworthy will never see this masterpiece.
Thank you Ohkubo-sensei
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>>282500213
Tamaki guards FF with her fanservice powers, the normies dare not watch her show.
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>>282506775
That's way off. JJK's greatest strength is how clear the action is. Its in the top tier of all manga for clear choreography.

Don't you know choreography on a manga/comic spans across several panels in order to show movement on a static image. Its never about just one page. Even if I could pull up spreads you would like.
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>>282500213
Fire Force has a so-so reputation in the west as s0illennial westerners online get really really assmad over fanservice of any kind
Not that it matters since the fanservice of Fire Force is tame, they also hate how Tamaki loses so many fights
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>>282507146
>Its in the top tier of all manga for clear choreography.
That's what I'm saying: it's a storyboard. But the actual ART of each panel is shit and you have to really untangle the linework on each page to understand what the fuck is going on, because the artist was rushing it and didn't bother to go back and ink things properly.

I wouldn't say it's top tier anything, but if there's ONE strength the JJK manga has, it's the storyboarding/choreography/whatever you want to call it.
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>>282503692
Midnight was living fanservice
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>>282501956
Maki Oze is not ugl-Oh wait you're talking about the Ryona Bait, my bad
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>>282507196
Ok. We almost agree. That's fine. I don't think you have to untangle the linework. That is why I pointed out it is so clear, but we're close enough as far as internet points go.
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>>282502786
Dr. Stone peaked with treasure island
Ibara was the most fun antagonist and also the only one who didn't get redeemed
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>>282505964
>niggers
Worship unironic toxic role models and their first resort is violence for the smallest perceived sleight. Which is why they love DBZ so much
>troons
Are usually liberals so you can ignore anything they say when it comes to masculinity
>white women
See above
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>>282500213
Stone was, ultimately, edutainment.
It was never gonna be ultra hit and that's fine.
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>>282501638
In terms of source material Fire Force is flashier than either of those
In fact KnY's art is very subpar, it's carried hard by the anime adaption
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>>282507172
Millennials and their social justice witch hunts caused so much unnecessary damage and drama to entertainment as a whole
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>>282503942
>People fight
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>>282500213
The new generation only likes a few things, nostalgia, spastic seizure inducing fight scenes, memeable characters and moments, and "aura" (think agenda-war faggotory and mental midgets idolizing characters because they're le STRONK)

Fire Force's biggest problem is the fact that, even though its fight scenes are amazing, they aren't flashy enough for the modern anime viewer. These same people are also put off by the fanservice as >>282506299 points out. Basically the modern anime-watcher (yes, even from Japan) is a midwit. And they tend not to understand or appreciate good plot, character development, and subtlety unless it's spoonfed.

Dr Stone isn't even really a shounen. There are fight scenes and they're also well choreographed and animated, but they're not flashy enough for nu anime fans, nor are they plentiful. So you lose the fightspics and the agendafags that way. It's premise and the plot also don't interest anime fans.
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>>282507793
>they aren't flashy enough for the modern anime viewer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h157J0IOS6A
Apologies for posting dub. Just how rotted are gen Z/Alpha's brains? Fire Force is just the right balance of flashiness while not being too over the top.
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>>282507672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjg1OnRelRk
Charon was such a beast.
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>be anime tourist
>watch fire force
>see skin from maki's well toned body and tamaki's sexy body
>AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME MILLENIAL FEMINIST HAGS MY PP IS GETTING HARD
Tale old as time
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>>282504021
>Most popular things are bad.
I disagree. A lot of popular things become bad because they're forced to live past their natural expiration date in the name of extracting as much cash as possible from an IP.
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I used to avoid FF because of the suits, until i ended up reading it this year. It's the best nu-shounen and i don't know why people dont talk more about it. Way better than MHA, JJK, KNY.
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>>282500213
Dr. Stone is fairly popular as a franchise, though. Not a massive hit like Demon Slayer, but still a popular shounen series.
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>>282500213
>dr stone
>science and math, which modern teenagers are too stupid to understand
>fire force
>centered on working a job, which modern teenagers can't empathize with
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>>282500213
Dr.Stone was never meant to be the "next big thing", it never tried to compete with the likes of Dragon Ball or One Piece. It had a decent run, will get a full anime adaption, and that's all you really need to be considered successful. Heck, the author had a previous hit on the same level and the artist had a long running manga before this one and is going to keep on making decent manga after it.
You shouldn't think of only in absolutes OP
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>>282500213
Fire Force got a smear campaign for not following the new regulations of censorship, nothing you can do without the help of ecelebs these days. Dr Stone requires a little bit of effort to watch, not saying is a super smart series but 1 is bigger than 0 and the big majority of people won't put even a 1 of effort into anything.
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>>282500213
testosterone levels have dropped too hard. male kids/teens want to watch homo shit now.
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>>282500213
>new shonen
>fire force and dr stone
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>>282510499
I assume he meant new shonen that has been out long enough to become the next big thing, unlike stuff like Ichi the Witch which didn't even had enough time to get an anime adaption yet
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>>282508528
It did have a massively popular storytime here.
It's just like MHA, JJK, KNY. Or any series really. New threads will not be frequent since the series ended. There is no new content to discuss
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>Mid Force
>Dr. Mid
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explain to an old big 3 relic like me why the zoomerools like JJK so much
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dr. stone doesn't even try to be anything more than elementary science lessons for kids with some plot, and fire force is just boring to look at
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>>282511765
he cute
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>>282500213
>KnY
Strong anime adaptation that hit in the right place (COVID-era streaming) at the right time (home stretch of the manga, Japanese fad of Taisho-era nostalgia) to go supernova.
>JJK
Strong anime adaptation with insanely memetic character (Gojo) that scratched an urban fantasy itch. If it weren't for how funky CSM's anime adaptation was, these two series would be interchangeable.
>MHA
Elder statesman from a interregnum period between the previous generation of mega-hit Jumpslop and the next. Globally appealing hook (nekketsu capeshit during the MCU's cultural hegemony). A large swathe of fuckable characters. MC appealing to self-insertfags and hardworkfags until O MY SEVEN QUIRKS.
>You
Need to brush up on your English, ESL-kun
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>>282511840
Jjk could have been even longer if the author didn't hate the editor characters so much
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>>282507492
Millennials also help spread misery and negativity because they need over the top ragebaits because they lost the best time to be a YouTuber in their prime
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>>282511800
>TikTok edits
>Gojo
>Flashy animation
>Easily lends itself to power scaling, agenda posting and cross overs
>Some characters that stick out a bit either by being funny, weird or both

Basically it could be resumed in "hype moments and aura"
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>>282511840
Nice explanation. Yeah, CSM probably would have gained more popularity if Mappa prioritized it instead of JJK.
>Need to brush up on your English, ESL-kun
Uh. I also thought I worded it a bit weirdly, but I don't exactly know what mistakes I made
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>>282500213
never in my life have i heard anyone mention or discuss MHA
plenty of people openly and without shame discuss fire force and dr stone in public
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>>282500213
try hard deep story wannabe to the point it forget its a cartoon
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Dr. Stone went from amazing to OK.
S1 had really poignant moments, people working together, hope for the future, showing you that actually people CAN have motivations that are pro-social, pro-human, that you can overcome basic tribal self-sabotage.

S2 was pretty good too, a little too invested in the personal dramas and motivations of characters that don't really matter but it was interesting to explore the concept that some people would want to use strength to dictate a future different from the unjust one they effectively escaped.

You already have a fair amount of "Actually, this'd take a hundred people nine months to do by hand, minimum" shit being hand-waved away / excused by a montage of goofy characters banging it out and maybe a tiny timeskip of weeks or a month, and like okay that's fine to a degree you want to tell a story but by S3 this is dialed up to the nth degree.
The plot of S3 is focused way too heavily on the petrification device, the esoteric of a specific island, and a bunch of villains that don't matter and characters that will join the ever expanding cadre of Dr. Stone's science nation.

This current season kind of sucks in that it's just more petrification device shit, more and more craziness with villain of the season who will die or join the cause or whatever.
Like it's watchable, it's just it has lost a lot of the verisimilitude (yes it was always goofy but now it's too much), the narrative tightness, the cohesion, also (and maybe this is my American speaking) but it's a little tiresome that Dr. Stone sort of refuses to walk softly and carry a big stick.
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>>282513360
C'mon anon... There's a reason why you see cosplay on manga conventions, it had four movies released outside Japan, has a Fortnite collaboration and people even wear T-shirts of the series in public
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>>282503692
Eh. more like MHA Girls doesn't rely on Fan service to make their character sexy.
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Neither of them have hype moments and aura, and not a lot of meme potential either, that's it, that's all something needs to be popular.
I'm a zoomer, I watched every season that's been out for both, and read all of Fire Force, Stone's fine and Fire Force is great, but they're hard to shitpost with.
Plus all the normalfag npcs crying about the fanservice in Fire Force, which will be way funnier with a moment that'll probably come next season.
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>>282510362
>got a smear campaign for not following the new regulations of censorship
????
Its not like they showed outright titty, or Tamaki getting raped or anything like that
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>>282500213
Because fire force is like my hero if everyone only had fire Powers, not much variety but still decent.
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>>282506203
Not popular on westoid tiktok therefore not popular therefore shit (I haven't watched the anime btw)
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>>282500213
Japanese bigbang theory is just as unfunny as its american version
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>>282508528
I only thought the suits were cool when I saw them shine in the dark, (which doesn't happen a lot to begin with) and I guess it's hard to portrait in black and white
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>>282500213
Dr Stone is bad and FF is not on Jump.
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>>282500213
because there are no material to even make a decent hentai douji out of any of them
the only reason why anime even became a main stream thing was because of the hentai stuff that comes after them. one piece and bleach might be shit tier manga/anime, but at least they spawn some of the most cum inducing hentais out there
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>>282514693
I'd say Fite Force has hype moments but that's like 150+ chapters in. If someone didn't care for the mystery at the beginning they would probably not hang out for that long
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>>282504059
>makes an entire arc just to have an excuse to draw sexy suika
Respect
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>>282500213
Because this MC looks like dogshit.

And I guess Fire Force was too slow at the start. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it's just not a way to become a megahit worldwide
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>>282511800
Are you really a vet? Try reading the manga, only someone experienced can appreciate the clarity in the choreography and you won't need to go over clan politics again if you're a veteran, the lack of which is the theme of the main complaint against JJK
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I think Dr.Stone killed itself the moment author decided to make Kohaku Senku’s distant relatives. We like to meme about “Le incest” but it actually kill character dynamics
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>>282501658
Tamaki is the most annoying screaming retard girl i've had the displeasure to hear, and I watched Overlord for fuck's sake
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Maka managed to have character that no girl in FF ever did.
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>>282500213
Because assholes made it political...
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>>282516823
I seriously doubt nips cared at all about that ''reveal''. Dr. Stone did well during its serialization and it ended fine.
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>>282500560
I was gonna ask how but then I remembered the chapter with Sumire.
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>>282500213
Why are you pretending MHA is on the level of JJK, let alone KnY?
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>>282506479
>Also the power system made no fucking sense which is a mark against it entirely.
Unironically one of the biggest sins by Gege, the power system is so poorly design and thought out that it fucking collapses in on itself by the end. Especially Binding Vows, where Sukuna not only makes them on the spot but gives himself pitifully meaningless conditions for colossal benefits.
By the end, everything just becomes a battle of "nuh uh" and "no u", just to stretch the final fight for as long as possible.
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>>282515377
Not how it work buddy, obviously nobody ever ask for a whole 5 minute sequence of Tamaki getting gangraped, companies simply don't like the "noise".
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>>282500415
Senku's plan to restore EVERYONE is retarded. The world has healed from humanity's transgressions, and he wants to turn it back into what it was.
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>>282522578
>turn it back
Watch to the end!
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>>282520195
I'm fine with making things esoteric if you're making a manga about le ancient Japanese magic.
The problem to me was trying to explain everything and not keeping it mysterious



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