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Romance is best when both characters are attractive. Readers should be observers, not self-inserters.
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What if I am attractive?
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isn't the expectation always for the reader to be an observer? How else can you tell a story
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I self insert into attractive characters though?
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>>282502312
true
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>>282502364
That's impossible. Attractive people don't read manga.
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>>282502312
wrong romance series are the best when both characters are plain but they each treat the other as though they're the most attractive person around.
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>>282502312
I self insert as a attractive character. I'm not japanese.
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>>282502777
Example?
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>>282502777
Gross
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>>282502851
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>>282504485
>yukino
>plain
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>>282502312
I don't give a shit about self-inserting or attractive characters, but I do like couples where both party are their looksmatch, this includes when both part are average or even below average in universe.
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>>282502312
>Readers should not engage with manwha or webtoon shit
ftfy faggot OP
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>>282502777
Very based take
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>>282502312
no, romance is best when the woman is way older than the boy
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>>282502312
Nobody cares about your bifaggot gaze op
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>>282502312
Go back to twitter faggot
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Fuck off with your homosexual fanatasy. The only thing the guy needs is not to be a plain retard.
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>>282502312
True!
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>>282502312
Based
>>282502777
Based and checked
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The best ones are both canon and make the non target demographic seethe.
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>>282502312
I am attractive and I can only self-insert characters that are as attractive as I am
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Where does this unfound idea that attractive MC not self-insert comes from?

Assuming by self-insert you mean straight male power fantasy, then they're more self-insert than a loser (who is treated in universe as one)
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>>282502312
>Romance is best when both characters are attractive. Readers should be self-inserters.
FTFY
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>>282510674
It comes from retardation. 90% of people who use the term “self-insert” have no fucking idea what it means and they haven’t even ruminated on the concept.

The reason they pretend there exists a behavior which is a hyperconscious form of meditation where you choose to pretend you are a character is likely because there is a part of their brain that is broken and they have to pretend people do this to feel more normal about the way they engage with fiction.
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>>282502312
well it's certainly more pleasing to look at.
>>282502777
based
>>282510735
i wanted to argue hilda wasn't all that much, but yeah she's a fabulous tomboy.
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>>282502312
I don't care how attractive the men I'm observing are though.
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>>282502626
I don't read manga? Damn!

>>282510735
Based. Everyone should be good looking. Only villains should be ugly, and even then, only the fodder or the particularly grotesque should look unattractive.
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>>282502312
Yup yup, no lies detected
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>>282502777
Trips of trvth, though it's hard to portray average "plain-looking" characters in animanga because they'll be pretty unless intentionally made ugly.
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>>282502312
Well, yes, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder so what the "attractive" characters look like is entirely subjective and depends on the observer's opinion.
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>>282502312
>>282502777
I like both
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Name a /a/ romance that is actually good. Romance inside of a non-romance series counts.
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>>282513407
Subjective
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>>282502777
I love this so much and I wish there was much, much, MUCH more of it.
Is it too much to ask to want to see normal people being happy?
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>>282513407
No such thing as good romance. Romance is for women and low T loser """men""". Nether of those groups likes good things.
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>>282513525
Bullshit men like romance more than women do
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>>282513531
lmao no. Only a loser weeb could believe that. Weebshit is the only corner of fiction with romance aimed at men.
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>>282513525
As opposed to you, a shounenspic?
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>>282513525
I rarely see a post THIS brownoid-coded
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>>282513525
>romance is for women, I’m too manly for feelings and ability to care for other people
You’re one of those losers who also complains about being forever alone, aren’t you?
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>>282510735
>>282510448
based
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>>282513552
Romance manga is best manga
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>>282502312
Self-inserting is a retarded zoomer term. The word you're looking for in good storytelling (any storytelling) is relatability. A character doesn't have to be "literally you" to be relatable.
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>>282515497
holy shit this
everything is MUH SELF INSERT buzzword nowadays
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>>282515497
But also, insofar as "literally me" simply describes your emotional and intellectual capacity to relate to beings that aren't you, there's pic related.
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>>282515497
It's actually a very apt term that cuts to the heart of particular kind of trashy storytelling that happens to be very common in weebshit.
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>>282502777
Checked but you describe a unicorn
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>>282515497
Most of the time "literally me" is used interchangeably to relatabily. The actual literally me characters are far and few between.
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>>282502312
>Readers should be observers, not self-inserters.
unironically i agree with this so fucking hard
holy fuck im so tired of media created specifically for you to self insert
it feels like everything outside of hollywood is made for you to self insert and hollywood movies fucking suck
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>>282513525
Bullshit, good shows have good romance in them usually, but aren't necessarily romance genre shows in itself, unless that's what you meant.
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>>282515497
self inserting is ignoring the character as-written and pretending they only care about what you care about and only do things for the reasons you do things
for example self-inserters will see a character always ready to do a favor for their neighbor and assume he's only helping her because he's trying to fuck her, because they refuse the idea that he actually likes helping people in a way that they don't
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>>282508623
>when the woman is way older than the boy
and she fucks the boy in the amazon position, even going as far as forcefully raping him



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