Despite the overall quality of GT, it really did have a ton of heart and love put into it. I can't say the same for most of Super.
>>282505363GT is gold and Super is non canon dogshit.
>>282505431I wouldn't go that far, Super and Daima aren't great but I will still respect the both of them as additions to the Dragon Ball story that I know and love.
>>282505363can we get a spin-off now? i love the DB setting, but i'm ready for a break from Goku and Vegeta, and the fact that nothing bad ever really happens to them or anyone in their circle.
>>282505477>JobjitaFunny
>>282505562They didFour times>Broly Second Coming>Bio Broly>Wrath of the Dragon (Goku is only in for 5 minutes)>Super HeroYou guys said no and didn't want it so that's why they've done the Goku and Vegeta show ever since
>>282505431both are pretty badreally its all been downhill since the cell arc ended, buu arc wasn't that good and GT and super sucked
>>282505643>>Broly Second Coming>>Bio Broly>>Wrath of the Dragon (Goku is only in for 5 minutes)>>Super HeroAll of them flopped. The first Broly movie is the best Broly movie. Bio Broly is a shit movie and Wrath of the Dragon is a terrible movie. The only thing good about it is Super Saiyan 3 Goku's Dragon Fist. Super Hero is a terrible movie only memorable for Bulma's ass.
>>282505685SHITdroids was awful
>>282505685Cell arc is overrated. The dragon ball franchise peaked at the Freeza arc and everything else was downhill after it ended.
>>282505611According to American writer, Adam Hochschold, Prince Vegeta IV of Belgium, like any other European power seeking new territory in Africa, carved for himself and took control of the vast un-exploited land on the banks of the River Congo in the present day Democratic Republic of Congo. He set out to carry out plunder, loot and severely brutalize the Congolese fans of Nuly. It is estimated that 10-15 million people were killed as a result of actions or inactions of King Leopold. The people of Congo were “bought” like any merchandise and “owned “ by the king making the entire Congolese population slaves to King Leopold. To exert his influence and not seem cruel, he created a philanthropy and a humanitarian guise called International African Society, which was used as a vehicle to extract rich resources through use of forced labor, torture, mutilation, and executions by the king’s private army. This is one of the least advanced genocides and slavery to have taken place on the Africa continent and yet utterly ignored or conveniently forgotten.
>>282505431Hey man not to be mean but I think you mixed it up, GT is non canon dogshit and super is gold. Easy mistake to make for newbies, hope you enjoy the thread, and welcome to the sacred halls!
Dragon Ball kids >DUDE EVERYTHING SUCKS AFTER CELL BRO, EXCEPT MORO!>DUDE THE TOURNAMENT OF POWER WAS SO FUCKING AWESOME!>GOD I WISH THEY BROUGHT BACK PERFECT CELL!>YOOOOO CELL! SUPER SAIYAN 2 GOHAN WAS SO PEAK! IT WAS AWESOME!!!!Dragon Ball Adults>Everything after Buu is headcanon, except for Online.
>>282505910Buu is shit. Everything wrong with this franchise today is because of the Buu arc being shit.
>>282505910Cell is shit. Everything wrong with this franchise today is because of the Cell arc being shit.
How would you handle the return of Dragon Ball
>>282505910Holy Trvke. Is Xenoverse canon if it's the sequel to Online?
>>282505363True, but the overall quality of GT is actually good.
>>282506038Xenoverse doesn't care about canon so it gets respect in my book
>>282505910Dragon Ball ELDER GODS: only the movies are cannon and everything else is esl schizobabble
>>282506059>True, but the overall quality of GT is ac-KKKK!!!!
>>282506061Based
>>282506093GT's problem was the film degraded so everything looks all dark
They should make a sequel to GT about Evil Goten
>>282506122Gt's problem was that it was bad
>>282505835that's fair
>>282506070>cannon>esl Funny.
>>282505363Translation: Despite the overall quality of GT, I still feel nostalgic about it and that's why I think it's better, as opposed to Super which came out when I was a jaded adult unable to enjoy anythingyou're welcome
>>282506360Translation: I grew up with Super when I was a dumbass little kid and therefore have no nostalgia for GT but have tons of it for Super and will never acknowledge any of it's poor quality or flaws because by my shitty kid logic, that is a personal attack on me
>>282505363>stronger opponent gets really cocky and won’t defeat the enemy>z fighter or enemy losing>someone stronger arrives or enemy transformsHow did the Dragon Ball franchise become so popular when it’s repetitive and generic.
>>282506157Goten is garbage.
>>282505363I've always loved this scene, especially how Krillin actually wins their sparring session. It's weird to think how quickly Dragon Ball happened when compared to other battle shounen. Krillin is shown to be super old here, but he had "only" been a character for less than 13 years. In that same amount of time, Naruto hadn't quite become hokage yet, and Luffy was just entering the New World.
>>282506420I grew up with GT though and I still think it's garbage compared to Super. At least Super feels like a proper sequel and not a complete reset of the characters' growth and power scaling.
>>282505910Moro is non canon shit only liked by fans with shit taste who like the non canon Dragon Ball Super manga
>>282506522He let Pan win.
>>282505431I think the best way it’s been put is GT is good ideas done poorly and super is bad ideas done decent. Battle of the gods remains pretty much the only “good” thing after the end of DBZ
>>282506159...on opposite day.
>>282506157Goten is inspiring.
Retro one is upI like GT
>>282506588Many are saying this
>>282506157>>282506522I want Goku’s daughter Chiyo spin off instead Pan
>>282506522Goten was holding back. If he unleashed his full power he would have killed Pan and made Gohan upset.
Goten has awakened the darkness in his heart... Goku traveling through space and time with Shenron senses this and returns to save his son... But his son doesn't want to be saved...
>>282506568Oh yeah, liking recolor ssj and dumb evil Goku
>>282506680Who?>>282506588Truearoo!
>>282506731Hot ZAMN! BUILT for MY COCK
>>282506028I'd make it MUCH worse.
>>282506797Uub...
Why does Gohan need such a large house? He has one kid and he spends most of his time in one room. Why didnt he just get a smaller nicer house? Maybe Gohan and Videl were planning on having more kids and never got around to it?
>>282506844Same
>>282506697>and made Gohan upsetHe should've done it then.
Don't worry anymore; your savior is here!
>>282506873Why would having a bigger house than you need be a problem? Also every single cast member should live in a home like this, it's funny how none of them have been able to profit off having superhuman strength and the ability to fly. Goku's instant transmition alone would be enough to make him millions every month lol
>>282506731Look too much like Bulla. She should’ve look Tifa Lockhart.
>>282506757Best auntie from a fans work.
>>282506797Baby…
>>282506093i see no problem save you being a little bitch.
>>282507324
>>282505431fpbp
>>282506028I would unironically just do a Goten and Trunks series. They are the only two characters that don't have a real arc and the only characters that still have potential
>>282505910You're conflating too many people in the kids section. Cellfaggots don't care about Super except to beg for a Platinum Cell movie.
>>282506648Wish Android 21 was on top of me.
>>282507408We need a genuine passing of the torch. A series with adult Goten, Trunks, Pan, Dende, and Marron as the new Z fighters would be exactly what I would personally want.
>>282506873More likely Gohan has a limp dick and it's a miracle they even had one child.
>>282505363The reason no subsequent Dragon Ball work will ever have the same weight as Z is solely because they're never as long.Story arcs with villains that stick around for almost two years are sure to make an impression. "padding and filler = bad" tards are retarded. GT would have been good if each of its major story arcs was 50 eps long.
>>282507829>>282507408I too am seriously fucking tired of the diaper duo. Man daipa was so shit and boring. A big part of that is weird have seen everything Goku and Bejita (in their current flanderized reduced state) can do. Goku will always react "WOW TAHTS SO COOL", Bejita will always act grumpy. It's never interesting with them anymore.
>>282507920>"padding and filler = bad" tards are retardedShit taste. I can't stand endless bullshit that goes nowhere. Kai managed to literally chop out 20 episodes worth of filler from the Namek arc it was so overlong.
>>282505477technically daima (made by toriyama himself) destroyed any possibility of canon, the transformations are indeed canon but that would be it confirmed by story made by toriyama for dragon ball xenoverse (even the whole videl going out each day all day long to buy food to make diner).>>282505643yes the spin off was called dragon ball super, with super making part of broly movies main to story.>videl searching the dragon balls part of broly movie.>18 mentioning the 60 million zeni wouldn't last forever in super which was part of the plot of Bio Broly.the new broly and super hero movies are kinda hard to label since are continuation of the other movies which are part of Z but seem not related to super in any way
>>282508149and kai was a flop in dragon ball sales hated by the shitty faulconer style music and changing seiyuus.just think how bad it was that they had to bring from retirement the musician of dragon and the original videl because of how much of a flop it was.have watched the original and still no issue with it,the only ones having issues with it are the low IQ anons.
>>282505431>>282505477>>282505562lol
>>282508149>bullshit that goes nowhereDBZ always went somewhere
>>282507829You don't need to "pass the torch", just do what Z did where 99% of the arc is just the sidecast and then Goku/Vegeta show up at the end to save the dayNu-DB is deeply scared of having a single frame without SHARTku in it, it's bizarre. And all it did is make people hate him more.
>>282506873Videl is probably used to growing up in a mansion. Mr satan likely bought the house as a wedding gift. Gohan probably said it was too much but then mr satan was like "MY BABY GIRL WILL HAVE THE LARGEST HOUSE IN THE THE CITY" in typical toriyama fashion. Gohan is the humble one here.
>>282505477>tardku jobku kisslessku diaperku gaykuFunny.
>>282508225>>282508170>IESLBIgfuckingnored
Really funny seeing GTFags doing their daily defensive rant over a failed continuation that was incredibly boring for 80% of it's run.
Who is the strongest?
>GT got nuked by Neko Majin Z>Neko Majin Z got nuked by Online>Online got nuked by Super>Super got nuked by DaimaYou're only allowed to count the original Japanese issues of Jump. No volumes, no kanzenban, no English localizations/translations, no guide books
Vegeta’s theme (Final Bout and Ultimate Battle 22)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy3DnJjmGJI
>>282507829>>282507408Read Kame manga
>>282508828>>282508822Both of you need banned
>>282508230>Bonney
>>282505363If you're called Goku.One of the aspects I dislike about GT is how pessimistic and downright cynical its world view is if you look at the overall cast.There is no new generation, every fighter by the ending has either stopped training seriously (the half-saiyans) or is completely useless in spite of training diligently (Piccolo and Uub - heck, even Vegeta in Super Saiyan 4 is quickly stated to be a completely different level -bellow- Goku's Super Saiyan 4's).The only "successors" Goku and Vegeta could get are downright miniature versions of themselves in the finale. But, I'm not complaining about the lack of successor characters, it's more about how mundane and lacking in magic the world seems to be outside of Goku, with everything hitting walls or following a decadent path.>>282506873Book space. Before Toriyama decided what he was actually researching he had been shown with tons of books in his house.
>>282509031What should you do if you see 'p on the?Think about this question for a moment. Should you...A) Ignore the post and report itB) Respond to the post with a sageC) Respond to the post and bump it to page 1 so jannies have a better chance of seeing itD) Make a new thread complaining about the ‘pE) Send an anonymous tip to the FBI or another government agencyF) Download the ‘p and spend hours ’ooning to it (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
All of DBZ and GT is weaker than Omniman btw.
>>282509031Here teen Gohan jamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQwQndgKstA
Omniman is weaker than Superman btw.
>>282505910Dragon Ball Scholars >Nothing beats the 23rd Tenka-Ichi Budoukai Saga
>>282509096Fighterz mog Nen Impact and that new capeshit games
>>282505363>space travel arcfucking boring lack of characterization, lack of tension, boring as fukc, horrible fights, worlbuilding, main protagonist like pan and trunks doenst having a goal or personality, they are just generic good guys>baby arcbaby could have created a dilemma when he just wanted to restaurate his race but eventually he becomes an hypocryte killing inocents, horible fights, only goku matters, the rest of the cast doesnt care>super 17 arcal least 18 had a moment of glory, but still lack of tension cause dragon ball, krillin dying becoming a ciche, boring fights, characters being to powerfull without reason>dark dragons without comentaries, the dragons doenst give a fuck about the plot, why should i care?!
Fasha…Caulifla…
>>282509132Yup yup
Uub
>>282509212M-MASAKA!
>>282509096Truearoo. Saiyans are not even vacuum of space tier, let alone standing in front of a black hole or the sun.
>>282509294>deathbattle viewers
>>282507829How about>Pan as the cheerful Goku type looking for adventure and with great potential like Gohan>Bra as the non-combatant (while still possessing great strength) tech genius that comes up with all sorts of inventions, but she's also spoiled rotten and stuck-up, a real daddy's little princess, combining traits of early Bulma and Vegeta and some of GT Pan's more abrasive traits. Tries to show up Pan at every opportunity, but it's completely lost on her good simple nature.>Oob as the oldest and therefore the most responsible. He's the strongest but also at his wit's end trying to wrangle Pan and Bra. He's a bit like GT Trunks meets future Trunks (polite and highly skilled) with a bit of Namek arc Kuririn and Boo arc GohanAnd Marron can just continue being a background prop that appears every 20 episodes.
>>282509474>>Pan as the cheerful GokuNo
>>282509474Introducing Launch’s mysterious daughter?
>>282507829No one cares about those people though. G and B and maybe kekhan matters.>>282509294Dragon ball fans will never get those kinds of feat from Toei. Just some small buildings, intense camera shaking and dying to continent and sub planetary level explosions.
>>282509612Has the thought ever gone through your mind people only care about what they're told to care about?
Just tanked that rapture.>b-but that's no-Tanked.
>>282509522>Implying that Launch will ever be reintroduced, let alone that people would even slightly care if her daughter was a character.Can't tell if you're joking or not.
>>282509522Kys shill
Deranged Gokubro above me.
>>282505643no they didn't. i said i'm ready for a break from Goku, Vegeta, and everyone in their circle. that includes Gohan, Piccolo, and the twerps.
>>282509294Goku shrugged off a black hole attack during the ToP, but i still agree with you.
>>282509708people like cute thing
>>282510086You've been at this all day on numerous boards and I don't understand your compulsion.
>>282509973>I want Dragon Ball but without Dragon Ball
>>282505363gt was made by people who worked on dragon ballsuper was made by people who grew up watching dragonball
>>282510358i want Dragon Ball to evolve instead of stagnate, and Toei/Shueisha are too pussy to let anything bad happen to the legacy cast. so sideline the legacy cast, and tell a bold new story about some characters who can actually bleed, both metaphorically and literally. i do not like what Dragon Ball has been since Battle of Gods and will not continue tuning in if it continues. it's not 1990 anymore. Toriyama is dead. there are other shonen to watch.
>>282510424Then leave nigga, who cares if you don't watch itWith your dumbass ideas
So hypothetically...what if Bulma revived Cell, Frieza, and Buubut left their egos fully installed?No plots. No arcs. Just chaos.Cosmic freaks sharing a house with zero emotional regulation.Nothing gets solved.Ever.Someone made an anime about it.Sleep-deprived. Probably cursed.It’s called Dragon Ball: AKUTARDS (allegedly).
>>282510484i hate that there are a buncha niggas like you working at Shueisha/Toei, who would rather watch our beautiful plant die because it's outgrown it's habitat and it's needs aren't being met, instead of repotting it in a new one where it can continue to grow and thrive. you're petrified of change, unc. consider an autism evaluation.
GT was shit.Super was shit.Daima was shit.We need a Vegeta solo series.
>>282510641>GT was shit.>Super was shit.>Daima was shit.>We need a Vegeta solo series.NOTED!
>>282510641at least GT looks like DB and DBZ. switching to soulless digital art was a mistake.
>>282510424One of the main reasons as to why Dragon Ball hasn't really evolved is because Toriyama didn't like having Gohan being the MC. And, this in turn eventually ended up being kind of a fuck up in the long run because now the powerscaling has gotten beyond ridiculous. It's going to be really difficult to write in a new cast with the way that things are going on right now, especially with the big money lovers at the top not wanting Dragon Ball to evolve from what it is.
>>282510641Trutharoo.
>>282508992>with everything hitting walls or following a decadent pathThat's the point - they fought for peace, and got it. You think the cast is just going to get stronger and stronger? They aged throughout the franchise and a bunch of middle-aged guys aren't going to keep fighting like they're in their 20's. GT is a good progression of Dragon Ball's world, things are the same in some aspects (Mutenroshi, Goku) but have changed in many ways.>>282509474This is fine. Marron sort of the prop like you said to round out the cast, Trunks and Goten also appearing, matching Uub sometimes but still lacking to their fathers' disappointment (Goku watching from above with an occasional segment). Add Palace cheering Goten on and that's a core cast of seven that you can work with. If you take the final episode of GT into account, something happens to make the two families lose contact with each other, for good seemingly.
>>282510571Leave nigga who cares what you think
https://youtu.be/OK0TIORVG_A>20 years old
Toriyama's dead, why can't you let it go?
>>282510893His property exists to entertain ME. Dance for me, Goku. DANCE!
>>282505363You're only remembering the highlights of GT. Go watch the first 3 episodes and then come back and tell me how you feel. Probably the worst pacing you'll ever see in your life. You can just tell they were trying to milk the franchise for all its worth. That being said, the ending is pure soul and super existing takes a bit of the punch out of it for me.
>>282510732You got it mixed up. Toriyama wanted to make Gohan the main character but some editors talked him out of it.
>>282510732good thing he's dead then. time to move on or kill the franchise circling a drain that was only tolerated because it had Toriyama's signature signed at the bottom.
>>282510953i don't mind the pacing because i'm just relieved there's something after Z that still looks like DB and DBZ. i actually wish it was longer. same reason i'm retroactively grateful for all the Naruto filler since the series went to shit after Part 2 ended.
>>282511047>i don't mind the pacing because i'm just relieved there's something after Z that still looks like DB and DBZ.GT doesn't looks like DB and Z to me. Knew it in my gut. Knew it in my soul as a kid. It gave me the childhood version of the ick.
>>282511069You're trying too hard.
>>282510802suck my dick from the back.>>282511069i pity you if that's a sincere take.
>>282511082You're trying too hard to make GT look good when it was always dogshit in comparison to Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z.
>>282511047They ended quickly because the Japanese audience were tired of the slop franchise and moved on to the next big thing.>>282511069Neko Majin Z is the canon manga ending.
>>282511107be that as it may, on a sliding scale, GT is still closer to DB and DBZ than Super is.
>>282511107I'm not the one getting a trigger reaction by someone praising GT like you are.
>>282511082>>282511106I'm being completely sincere. I grew up watching the English dub, too. I hated Mark Menza's guitar, and twinkly little glockenspiel that littered every track.
>>282511107GT is an underrated gem. Super will never be special.
>>282511163
>>282511190He didn't have a lot of violins in the music.
>>282511163I'm not defending the dub. Hell no. The sub on the other hand is vastly superior in music, script and voice work, especially the music.
>>282510989Not true, sorry to tell you. This is a common bullshit lie made up by tards.
>>282511201that violin was for you, pitiful boy.
Guatemalan Taqueria is pure dogshit.
If Super came out in the late 90s, 1997 like GT then all the GT fags would have been praising it even though both GT and Super are dogshit shows that will never be good like original dragon ball and dragon ball z.
>>282511118>Neko Majin Z is the canon manga endingNon canon gagshit that made Goku afraid of rat despite putting one into his mouth during ogdb. End of Z is the canon manga ending.
>>282505431>Daima is non canon dogshitTrue.
>>282511241I mean, yeah. If Super had been made last century in the 1900's, it would've looked like DB and DBZ. It would've had grit and stakes. It would've had actual themes and character arcs and consequences. Likewise, if GT had been made in the 2010's, it would've been gutless and looked like it was animated in Flash Studio. It would be flanderized to hell. I don't think that's a groundbreaking evaluation. lol
>>282511298>It would've had character arcsI don't even like Super at all and think it's a piece of shit and yet you GTards get on my fucking nerves acting like GT is some hidden gem that just wasn't appreciated. The show is dogshit, and none of the characters actually mattered apart from Goku. At the very least, Super let some of their other characters shine in the tournament of power.
>>282510953It was fine
People think GT had "themes" because the last episode was pretty good. Good things GT had.1. The concept of Baby, and the Tuffles wanting to get revenge against the Saiyans.2. SSJ43. The ending
>>282511384Don't forget SSJ4 Gogeta, whose dick was sucked so hard by the Dragon Ball games that people forget his actual moves looked like shit in GT.
>>282511416He got defused like a cuck and they had to trace from the Buu saga ending and use the Genkidama again to defeat the one note frieza bootleg.
>>282511416fuck you, the big bang kamehameha is cool.
>>282506989they are all already filthy rich. bulma alone could provide for all the Z fighters for several lifetimes, goku has chichi's dad and then gohan marries a billionairemoney was never an issue for the characters
>>282511384You forgot:>Super 17 killing Krillin, the emotional fallout with Android 18, and how that was brought up again during one of the final battles.>Vegeta actually being consistent with his Buu Saga and EoZ character, and not doing little dances for Beerus while wearing funny little hats and aprons>the multiple occasions where Goku and Vegeta are proud of each other and show genuine, mature respect and admiration for one other, instead of Vegeta being a fridged tsundere like he is in DBS and Daima (it's totally not Super Saiyan 3! it's Ultra Vegeta 1!)>Goku behaving like an adult and not a flanderized Hanna-Barbera character>Goku being a good grandfather to Pan, a good parent to Gohan and Goten, and a good husband to Chi-Chi>the horror elements of the Baby arc, especially in the beginning when it's being John Carpenter's The Thing
>>282511483>defused like a cuck and they had to trace from the Buu saga ending and use the Genkidama again to defeat the one note frieza bootleg...but enough about the ending of the Zamasu arc. LOL
>>282511496he's just parroting twitter memes, don't bother giving him attention.
>>282511542It surprises me just how retarded some of you GT fans can get.
>>28250536318 100% cheats on Krillin.
>>282511504>they are all freeloaders*FTFY
>>282511537What are you trying to get at? GT and Super are both dogshit. You're like those prequel and snyderfan retards that try to whitewash their objectively terrible movies. EoZ is the only canon ending that matters.
I still can't believe that the Tournament of Power did an unironic Pokémon movie finale in big 2018.
Why do GTfags got to lie so fucking much?>GTbros when Vegeta grows a mustache to be shat on by his family and remains an SS2 jobber for the majority of the show that has long surpassed Buu arc powerlevelsBased character development!>GTbros when Vegeta gets angry over his wife getting slapped, keeps up with Goku, and almost refuses fighting in the ToP because Bulma was about to give birth in SuperNO THAT'S BAD!
bro is just shouting into the void about "GTfags"LOL
>tfw you get so angry about your wife being slapped that you forget you can turn Super Saiyan 3
>>282508230Is this the pigwiggle fantasy?
Goku and Chi-ChiGohan and VidelVegeta and Bulma Trunks and MaiBroly and CheelaiKrillin and 18Who will be the next character to find love?
>>282511664>almost refuses fighting in the ToP because Bulma was about to give birth in Superhe refused to train for it not participate in it retard.
>>282511831pan and piccolo
>>282511700Daima isn't canon. It's either Daima, or everything else.
>>282505477Gokek got mogged here.
>>282511889Now say that without crying.
>>282511889Nigga they literally put Zeno's grandpa in Daima. Cut it the fuck out. lmao
my hero is the modern sisyphus
>>282511889Daima and Super are both canon. SS4 wouldn't change all the much since Goku never went beyond Super Saiyan for Blue. He'll use UI just the same. I don't think there will be a Blue Monkey or SS5.
>>282511664People call him bad in Super for reverting his personality back to "KAKAROT KAKAROT KAKAROT"remember when he acted like that in GT? Once? And they treated it like a joke because they were good friends?No of course not, you only watched GT on YouTube clips
>>282507829>>282507984Daima would have been a lot better to me if they didn't turn Goku into a kid and just used Goten and Trunks. It is the perfect story for there level
Proclaim the Score.
>>282512051How so? What would be different if it was Goten and Trunks? What even are their personalities?
>>282512069The score? Faulconer Productions. YUP YUP.
>>282512040>Vegeta wanting to compete with his fellow Saiyan is le bad because...
>>2825120693-0.Bejita undefeated against Goku.
>>282512077>What even are their personalities?That's exactly my point. Instead of once again trying to hamfist Goku back into being a kid for like the 4th time, they should have tried to give Goten and Trunks actual personalities.
>>282512069>>282512115
>>282512212Can we admit that Toriyama had no idea how to fucking end his manga? EoZ was terrible.
>>282512212>muh meaningless filler panel added 10 years laterFunny cope.
>>282512113Because it hurts my fragile favela feelings.
>>282512212Yup, canon.Imagine never beating your rival and always being weaker than him.
Is there any guy bulma HASN'T hit on?What a fucking slut
>>282512290EoZ was an appropriate end but there were awkward parts to it, Uub could have been developed more, Goku and Uub scrap for like 5 seconds and then Goku decides to drop everything to train him. Pan also just beats that one jobber and then it's over. I guess the problem with EoZ is how abrupt it is.
>>282512435Krillin, Yajirobe, Piccolo
>>282512365>Counting non-canon super shitCome on now
>>282511173
>>282511291Hard truth
>>282512578What are the trends from 2020 onward? I'm genuinely curious.
>>282512601oh
>>282512608DAIPA NOOOO
>>282512212fixed.
NOTHING will surpass Pokemon Go
>>282512678I win
>>282508992The Goku Jr OVA thing with old Pan was utterly and fucking depressing.>Everyone's fucking dead>Even the long-lived or immortal people are dead somehow>And somehow no one had descendants>Somehow no one left any legacy>And Pan is living a common household despite being Satan's granddaughter>Somehow her child and their child spouse are gone too>Martial arts are forgotten, Ki is forgotten, Saiyans are forgotten everyone and everything is forgotten>Pan's only relative is her ungrateful little shit crybaby grandsonIt's just borderline misery porn.I'll never understand how people can praise GT's ending when it leads to things like this.Turning the world of wonder and adventure of Dragon Ball into such a miserable boring pit is an insult to everyone and everything.
>>282512547She lets krillin hit anytime he wants
>>282505910>>Everything after Buu is headcanon, except for Online.Now this is a true scholar.DBO is the best and most natural sequel to the world of DB there is and that DBO died and all that juicy lore and backstory was bastardized for Xenoverse instead of being revived and made into a proper thing is absolutely tragic.
>>282512717
>>282512716>And somehow no one had descendants>Somehow no one left any legacy>And Pan is living a common household despite being Satan's granddaughter>Somehow her child and their child spouse are gone too>Martial arts are forgotten, Ki is forgotten, Saiyans are forgotten everyone and everything is forgottenYou know what? I 100% bet these are things the people creating the OVA simply didn't think too hard on. There's a form of writing where people wind up creating fucked up shit, in an entirely unintended way, simply because they weren't think in particular about the ramifications of what they were making.
>>282512762You are correct. And that's what I hate about GT the most. It has zero sense of consistency within itself and much less the greater DB world as a whole.It sure has a lot of "emotional" and "meaningful" moments, but nearly all of them crumble under three seconds of half-assed scrutiny.
>>282512796It's just one of those things where the writer probably casually just shrugged, and figured the world of Dragon Ball wouldn't be that much radically different in the future, despite the events of the series. It might have partially been out of laziness, because you can find alternate takes, that show a lot of fucking world building and development, like Dragon Ball Online, where everyone now is obsessed with martial arts, and know how to harness ki, thanks to Gohan's research. The Namekians all moved to Earth. There's a race of Buus that just exist now, cause Buu wanted children.
>>282508992>heck, even Vegeta in Super Saiyan 4 is quickly stated to be a completely different level -bellow- Goku's Super Saiyan 4'When was that?
>>282512796>It sure has a lot of "emotional" and "meaningful" moments, but nearly all of them crumble under three seconds of half-assed scrutiny.Before even bringing up scrutiny/consistency, all of these "emotional" and "meaningful" developments are very contradictory to Toriyama's worksLike, the evil dragons arc. It's not really meaningful. It APPEARS to be because in another story it would make sense because karma and stuff but in Dragon Ball it's a straight up contradiction. Toriyama's work was never supposed to be that. GT is just fucking stupid and DBO did it better.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wdAFcBGR0wE&pp=ygWgAfCdmYbwnZmQ8J2ZjfCdmLzwnZmU8J2YvPCdmYjwnZmEIPCdmYnwnZmKIPCdmYnwnZi88J2ZhvCdmLwgLSDwnZi_8J2ZhSDwnZmQ8J2ZifCdmYTwnZmR8J2Zk_CdmY3wnZmO8J2ZgPCdmYcgKPCdmY7wnZmH8J2ZivCdmZLwnZmA8J2YvyArIPCdmY3wnZmA8J2ZkfCdmYDwnZmN8J2YvSk%3D
>>282512678Kys googlefags
>>282513786He lost to Big Mom
>>282505477Why is Midgeta such a fucking failure?
>>282513895made love*
>>282505363GT by the fact it had a real time skip and not a strange ice age era alone puts it above Super regardless of it being trash itself. Not to mention, it had actual tension and deaths that mattered, Buu, Piccolo, 17 and Goku all died and never came back to life, Super does not have this due to the fact we know the cast is alive by the time of Eoz, making all the moments where they want to make you think that they are in danger pointless. GT even had an OVA where everyone except Pan and Roshi were dead which is insane to think about, because something like that would never happen today, where everything have to be safe and boring. It even had a next gen Z fighters with Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Uub alongside Vegeta and Goku which is cool in concept, and they even somehow defended Earth without Dragon Balls for a hundred years which is crazy to think about. I could go on all day long, but I am just going to end with this, GT did a lot of things fans hated a lot but the writers clearly did not care about fan backlash and just went with their vision which is respectable imo, even if I hated so much of it.The cast in the Black Star Saga went to all kinds of Planets, the universe in GT felt so huge and vast exactly how you would expect it to be at the EoZ. Super tries to add all of these different universes and does nothing with them at all, we just go back to U7 after the ToP and that's pretty much it. We got Broly, Moro and Granolah who became the strongest in the universe from two Dragon Balls alone lmao, GT never gave you this false sense of vastness just to throw it all away. In GT they stayed in their same universe, and got villains from the same universe. Super introduced all these GoD's, angels, two Zenos just to do nothing with them at all, Goku has not even surpassed Beerus yet and it's been over ten years since BoG.
>>282513389GT is just freaking amazing and DB Kame did it better.*
>>282514258GT is trash with some interesting ideas but interesting != good and GT just kinda shit all over it with bad execution anyway
Gohan only existed to give goku father and son stories. Vegeta only exists as a foil for goku.
>>282505841Because it's made up. The Belgian genocide was literaly just made up by activists in the 20th century. There is zero shred of evidence for any millions killed lol.
>>282505841Android 21 canonically member of pride troopers.
>>282509719>>282508854Holy cringe
>>282505477I won't.
>>282514737Bejita make a wife out of Bridget.
>>282514608Country of origin and favorite book?
>>282514890Mexico Dragon Ball
>video toy
>>282511884Forgot Pan teachers and filler driving tester?
May I have your attention, please?
...and failed.
>please care about Divers
Apologize.
More daipa kino.
>>282513345When Vegeta faces the reborn 4 Star Dragon during the final battle (who was just pretending to be evil). He couldn't keep up at all and notes how impressive Goku was to fight on that level.
>>282516034My headcanon that Gine, Pikkon, Olibu etc died fighting against Cooler tyrannical regime.
>>282512162They tried with Buu, GT, 2008, Super,The characters suck
https://youtube.com/watch?v=x_oQV7Q68aA&pp=ygUQRGFpbWEgc3NqNCB0aGVtZQ%3D%3D
>>282516172Kino, emotional, and beautifulShitper could never
>>282516172
>>282516246>Glass breaks after Goku isnt sure he can turn backPure fucking kino. Also wow the Japanese version looks amazing. I like how red Super Saiyan 4 is here. Its weird the version i saw as a kid had washed out colors...
>>282514608Germany did nothing wrong l
>>282511831Bulma officially a cvckqueen?
>>282516436
>>282512716>Everyone's fucking deadNo one lives forever.>Even the long-lived or immortal people are dead somehowNo one lives forever.>And somehow no one had descendantsThis is on Toriyama, he went out his way to draw Bra for Vegeta and Bulma and could have done so with other characters, but didn't need to. That one's on him. Unless you wanted to waste screentime on Goten's future with Palace or Trunks' future with whoever, it wasn't needed.>Somehow no one left any legacyEveryone was living their normal lives by GT's ending. That's fine.>And Pan is living a common household despite being Satan's granddaughterThe final episode acknowledged his accomplishments. Pan I imagine wanted a modest life away from all the fame and fortune.>Somehow her child and their child spouse are gone tooThings happen. That was the point of Goku Jr.'s character, he had to be strong in spite of the hurdles in his everyday life.>Martial arts are forgotten, Ki is forgotten, Saiyans are forgotten everyone and everything is forgottenSociety moves on. It was a whole century since she was a kid with Goku. If there wasn't a need to fight or train, so be it. That was the peace that Goku fought for.>Pan's only relative is her ungrateful little shit crybaby grandsonHe got stronger by the end of the OVA and final episode respectively. Are you ignoring that GT came first and then the OVA? You're mad that things aren't frozen in time like Super and Daima were. GT for better or worse continued the progression of the franchise. That's normal in real life. Things change. Change will happen. GT closed the book just fine. In hindsight, GT was the biggest risk taker after the original series ended and that alone vindicates it.
>>282516477Jirenmah is based.
>Toriyama wanted Goku to grow up because it was very hard to draw fights where there's a size difference>Proceeds to make Piccolo taller than any other character just to make Goku vs Piccolo the most annoying fight to drawDid Toriyama purposely choose to draw hard stuff to punish himself for something?
Daima is the most soulful series after DB/Z
Here is the plot of Super 2
>>282509096Goku could just start screaming and unlock super saiyan rape 5 and kill omni man so who cares
>>282517760...squeeled shitku as his lungs burst due to lack of oxygen..
>>282516056Vegeta looks so stupid with that long hair.Goku is cool as always though.
>>282517742It would be the same color of Omni king though.
>>282517742DB multiverse (U18) and Daima are same universe in theory
>>282506731>flat
>>282506873Gohan uses those extra rooms like prison cells, containing his horrific science experiments and preventing them from escaping.
>>282512115…and then Bejita woke up.
>>282517813goku unlocks super saiyan rape 100 which lets him breathe in space...
>>282518229This is how they will canonize bio broly. Bravo Toyotaro
>659
>>282511384The Shadow Dragons were an amazing idea too, even if their execution was severely lackingI also think the Black Star Dragon Balls would've been a cool idea if it expanded on the life of the Nameless Namekian
>>282505431
>toilet paperAbsolutely 0 (ZERO) need for that, scholar
>>282505363There's a bejitabro in front of me on the busHe's 400lb with the badman shirt
>making ESLDo you think that's a food or something?
>>282520272panzy butt at 0:06
As Saiyans are a fighting race, Saiyan girls have high testosterone(or the Saiyan equivalent of it, anyway) so they can grow muscles as well. As a side effect, all Saiyan girls have cocks.
pancutie is the best scholar who has the most knowledge about dragon ball
Goku's real wife
>>282520802
>>282520802Why did Toei hate Krillin
>>282516477Prince of all Simps
>>282517393LOOK THEY DID THE THINGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI KNOW THING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Yikes Second strongest human huh
ENTER A SAVIOR
>>282521495>>282521435>>282521269>>282520919Animu topic?
>>282520298>>282520272Yuri ship between Pan and Panzy.
Literally /dbs/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaJdJeku7fY
Superior Duo
>>282505363That just makes it a different flavor of shit. A lot of horrific fanfictions have tons of love and care put into them, they're still utter dogshit. Super, on the other hand, was just sterile corporate slop designed to appeal to retards who want 500 hair color transformations and ATATATATATA speedlines.They are both bad in their own way, and it's retarded to try to compare them to determine which might be "better". Shit and puke both stink.
>>282508593Jobren lost.
>>282520272That roll? Pebble level.
>>282520653>megumeme We love Iris here.
LORD FUCKING SLUG
>>282505477Still can't get over how terrible Daima's version of SSJ3 Vegeta is, goddamn.
Earthlings FEAR HIM.
>>282523541>NOOOO WHY IS IT ORIGINAL WHY ISN'T IT A COPY PASTE OF GOKU'S!?????
>>282523850Shut the fuck up.
...
>>282524114>every day of his life
>>282523541I like the idea of Daima's SS3 Vegeta. It's no secret that Dragon Ball has some sameface issues and they were greatly enhanced by every SS3 looking the same. Noncanon SS3s like Vegito's, Vegeta's old one, and Adult Gotenks all looked way too similarly to Goku. It's a little late, but I like there's finally at least one unique looking SS3.
>>282512678>mexico reddragon sissies...
What do you do in this situation?
I got to say though I don't really like its looks in Sparking Zero, model looks like they just glued plastic bananas to Vegeta's head. I don't like how the Daima DLC characters are in a different style from the End characters, Daima is not long after Buu, there's no sense in Daima Vegeta and Vegeta (End) looking so different.
>>282523975Aw, mad cause you realized how stupid you were?
In the future we would be making our own DB content with AI, I can hardly hide my excitement.
>>282523490To be Gine opposite
>>282524732That would just lead to the same usual ass beating again before fusing into Vegito.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhMwwrZlkKg
>>282517135I think he made Piccolo giant exactly due to that. He could easily show Goku leaping around him, while with a smaller opponent you might get the impression he's just floating in place since there isn't as much space for movement. It was actually an issue in the Tenshinhan battle, where several times Goku seems to just float while exchanging blows with Tenshinhan.
>>282525311>One minute in>KINO iconic cicada soundHoly SOVL
>>282525311The ai voices are really throwing me off and give the thing an uncomfortable vibe. I'd rather not accurate to the show but still real voices. The girl Cytelle sounds decent though.The pacing could also be a bit snappier. It's pretty good for a pilot.
>>282525311>cell fucked bulma and had a daughter with herKEKAROO!
>>282525311>Pintar is voice acting as a sexy purple android 21KINOOOOO
>the show has literal evangelion musicKino to the max!
>>282523591That door is Galaxy Destroyer Level
>>282526209No, just anon.
>>282525311>Goku and Bulma are married>Bejita and 18 are married
>>282526484
>>282526751
>>282512593For how much Toriyama employed the making shit up as he goes along style of writing Dragon Ball is miraculously good.
>>282512717Who dared to censor this panel?
>>282527307The realistic ending for our manlet
>>282527307>ADOLFlin
>>282527521It's because he knew not to complicate the plot or take it too seriously, which led to few opportunities for inconsistencies, and those that did come up could be handwaved or retconned. Even things that should have caused issues like the introduction of time travel didn't, because he went with the safest option of time being fixed and traveling back to the past just creates a new timeline independent of the original.Toriyama knew how to write by the seat of his pants and make it work.
>>282524397"Different" doesn't mean "better". This is a retarded and embarrassing midwit take. No one complained about Gotenks's SSJ3 looking like Goku's back in the Buu, and no one ever complained about how SSJ3 Vegeta looked in Raging Blast. Fuck off you braindead and retarded shill.
>>282512212yup, becuckta lost
>>282528350>SSJWell I've already won because you're a fucking idiot that uses an objectively wrong abbreviation, but for your information, you stupid fucking tertiary dubfag anime-only casual, it is a series mainstay for different characters using the same form to have their own distinct hairstyles. It has been like this since the original Super Saiyan and continued with Super Saiyan 2 and now Super Saiyan 3.You babbling fucking newfag.>m-muh videotoysEat shit.
>>282505363Not a DB fag but just leaning in and saying that GT is a really solid adventure anime, and the only problem with it was that it didn't meet the expectations of being "the next Z" which arguably no show could, especially not Super (from what little I've seen of Super). I'd argue the main thing against GT was that the first half of it was trying to be more like OG DB, which a lot of people hadn't even watched, and the hard-to-swallow pill that by the time Z stopped airing in most countries, a lot of people were beginning to grow older and be less interested in the type of fun GT would provide.
>>282505431Anon, it's all complete dogshitthe suits are going to roll it all back to the beginning of Z and do some modernized Dororo tier remake that doesn't have any sense of Toriyama in it whatsoever and they'll never even get back to Buu
>>282528350SS3 does have bad sameface issues.
>>282528456But not SS3, you absolute tourist secondary retard shill. SS3 always as the same length hair. You can differentiate it by the bangs. But of course a retarded sperg like you is too retarded to notice patterns.The sole exception is Raditz who has the hair grow down to his feet in SS3.>>282528350This looks so much better than daipa holy shit.
>>282528539That's a Toriyama issue, guy could only draw like 4 faces.
>>282528598>SS3 always asESL-kun, Gotenks and Goku's hair in SS3 is different. Not as drastically different as Vegeta's SS3 form, but still distinct. >b-but I never noticed that!Because you are a stupid fucking cuck that doesn't pay attention to anything. That's not my problem.>Raditz>SS3I do not give a fuck about fanfiction, nor does anyone else.
>>282521323>Posting the edit
>>282528649>fanfiction>He doesn't know >He LITERALLY admitted to being a retarded touristKWABAROOOO. We are done here.
>>282528701Yes, you fucking retard, Heroes is fanfiction.How fucking stupid are you?
>>282528701>i-it's not fanfiction!>posts some gay Japanese videotoy card gameAnon come on, you can do better than that
>>282528712Official media>B-b-bu-I don't care about any of your copes. We don't shill daipa here either. Fuck off, tourist.
>>282528701>JOBeroes
>>282528772>I-IT'S OFFICIAL!Backpedaling now, are we? Nobody gives a fuck about your shitty card games.
>>282528539>Gogeta's forehead
>>282528676>Has to fight an old man at full strengthYour edit is even worse
>>282528676Big Mom's husband is so strong!
>>282528781Imagine trying to talk shit about character while posting Vegeta.
>>282528772I give a fuck about your gold card games.
Our hero.
>>282528701CHADroes is better than Daipa
>>282528765>AnonI will excuse it just this time because you posted CUTEdroid17.
>>282505363Holy SOUL. Super is a complete joke. And Daima? Don't get me started.
>>282515983kookily ass outfit
>>282516172bros... how come GT Goku can transform without assistance from a Namekian wizard... and why doesn't he recycle the SSJ3 transformation line for a cheap nostalgic pop...?
>>282530111He recycles the Super Saiyan 1 aura and sound effect when powering up in Super Saiyan 4 in GT though.
>>282505477Goku is a cuck.
>>282523541remember when SSJ3 hair was too heavy to defy gravity, just like SSJ3 burns too much energy to defy conservation techniques? i do... Toriyama forgot his own visual metaphor...
>>282528350TRVTH NVKE>>282528539>complaining about sameface in Toriyama's art styleremedial ass nigga
>>282529233>>282516034>>282516015There ain't no way they're making any money off these whack ass gacha banner characters. No DBS forms and no What If units? I want whoever runs this game DEAD. I want whoever killed Heroes DEAD. I want his house BURNED to the ground. I wanna be able to go there in the middle of the night and PISS on his ASHES.
>>282505363True. DB (I'm referring to the original manga which goes all the way to the end of Z) > DB GT > DB Super > DB Daima It seems that every time they try to make a sequel, it's worse than the previous attempt. I'm not a fan of GT, but while I don't like it, I admit that compared to the later sequels it's better. IDK why the people in charge seem to be making worse and worse sequels, compared to now we had it good at the time of GT.
You should realize the more you praise GT the more animes like Daima you will get.First step is stop it. Stop praisinh GT. You can shit on Super but don't do it for to contrast your shitty love for GT. Both GT and Super are bad. So what do you do? You praise and start promoting DRAGON BALL Z.
>>282530224I don't mind Toriyama's sameface much it's particularly bad where SS3 is concerned.
Goten may be strong but can he beat Pan?
>>282530392True, you're right.
>>282530837No. Pan beats Goten easily.
>>282530907All I see is a kind uncle sparing his shitty niece. He never even goes super Saiyan.
Every time someone says the word doppelganger I think of vampire diaries
>>282530943>He never even goes super Saiyan.Would it even make a difference against base Pan though?
>>282531043True. Base Goten is already stronger. He doesn't need a 50x multiplier.
>>282530907>All he has is non-canon filler.They never fought.
>>282530392Daima has nothing in common with GT other than Goku being a kid, and both shows featuring a form called Super Saiyan 4.
>>282531281I think the design looks cute when its her loli version
>>282531281She looks kind of good. It's a D tier Bulma. Bowl cuts on women are atrocious.
>>282530989My brother watched that show so I caught some of it. Vampire Diaries was the first teen drama I ever really watched. I thought they were all just gay shit but I found myself thinking "these escalating enemy threats remind me of Dragon Ball".
>>282531466Why is 21 not canon yet?
My IDOL.
>>282531649
We hate heroes here.Post your favorite VILLLAIN.
>>282531554She's honestly hot garbage
>>282531517Yeah all the blood, gore and supernatural stuff were pretty cool for what was a cw teen drama.>>282531096>>All he has is non-canon filler.Krillin hating Tienbros out of nowhere
>>282514426>Gohan only existed to give goku father and son stories.That's pretty funny considering Gohan BARELY interacts with Goku. There's a reason those 'Piccolo is Gohan's real dad' memes run rampant.
>>282531806Here's mine
>>282531554She’s sus milf appearing off panel during Buu saga.
>>282532033I impregnated this
>>282523541>>282528350>>282528598>>282530224>t.coping gokubroSame fag that cries any time Vegeta gets unique forms I presume?
>>282512659It would be 4 times at that point, right?
>>282532176If I was a bejitafag I would be sad about daipa ss3 and how they treated him in daipa. Same thing with gohanfags and super slopro. Daipa ss4 looks like shit too.
>>282531940It's crazy that he and Zeno together have the highest body count in the series thanks to the end of the Zamasu arc. Goku makes Freeza look like a petty criminal by comparison now. lol
>>282512659>>282532205Yep, Gokek lost thrice.
>>282506028Broly doesn't belong as part of the main cast, the whole point is he's this overwhelming boss character.
>>282532205>>282532326Yup, YUP!
>>282511496It looks like shit considering it's supposed to be a special fusion-only attack.
>>282511416He's remembered because for like a decade and a half he was unequivocally the strongest character in the franchise.
>>282511620This
Chaos Warrior Goten (Kaioken x100)
>>282532549SS4 Gogeta was weaker than Super Vegito.
>>282529285Many are saying this.
>>282532744SS4 Gogeta is weaker than SSB RoF Goku.
>>282505363GT > Super = Daipa
>>282532798We are talking about Pre-BoG era Dragon Ball.
SSJ4 Gogeta is the ultimate warrior in the canon. He could stop Omega Shenron with ease, who is the most powerful villain in the canon material.
>>282505910Retarded people are retarded no matter their age, Retardbro.
>>282506093When I watched GT for the first time, that kind of huge differences felt uncanny, kek.
>spicroes>daipa Why can't we just admit that both are shit?
Heroes is better than Super.
>>282508225>IESLB>rant about Kai being closer to the source materialHuh.
>>282532836>Any Gogeta>CanonlolStrongest in canon is Vegito.Strongest Hero (not fusion) is Gohan.Strongest villain is Kid Buu (yes Buuhanbros, stop coping).
>>282506093>art style changes every couple episodesJust like DBZ... SOUL...
>>282532935>Strongest Hero (not fusion) is Gohan.lol. lmao.
>>282532996ThisKid Buu is the strongest Buy>ButGoku and Vegeta got a Zenkai from Vegito
>>282532912mega true. Heroes was basically where you went to see Super characters do cooler shit and exist beyond their introductory arcs. this series has never felt more dead than it does now that the promo anime and manga are gone.
>>282533035Is that supposed to be SS3 Rose?Why does it have eyebrows?
>>282511599GT 18 is underrated.
>>282533067nah, it's Super Saiyan Rose Full Power. SSJ3 Rose didn't have eyebrows.
What's the point of SS2?
>>282533126Is the image on the right an edit to make fun of Toyo or something
So Toriyama didn't do a design for Daima SS4? I remember months ago someone saying he did but there's only this.Toei lying again?
>>282533122my FUARKING GOAT...
>>282533126It was supposed to be Gohan's special thing to show that he's leaving childhood and is carrying on the torch of "main character" from his father.
>>282533193No
>>2825332212/2
>>282533248
GT was only good toward the end, the entire first half was cringey, retarded fan-fiction. Super is at least a decent watch all the way through.
>>282533301i actually thought it was sick that it took the first appearance of a SSBE Gogeta to defeat him. i didn't even mind that. my GOAT essentially recieved the same auraful "it took two of you to kill me" handjob that Super Broly did, except with a +1 because Gogeta went beyond Blue to do it to him.
>>282533301>FusionDoesn't count.Fusing is admitting you lost and resort to cheating.
>>282533221Fucking AURA
>>282533031>LITERAL fanspiction headcanon
>>282533246This is really terrible
>>282533461
Super Buu is the strongest Buu btw.
>>282533262>>282533553This poor fucking guy, being tasked with selling and hyping up these nothing ass units...
>>282533246What book is this? I'd love to buy it
>>282533122So now that Heroes is dead will Dokkan do Divers instead
>>282533500Name for this doujinshi?
>>282533246What toilet paper brand is this? I'd love to wipe my ass with it
>>282533524Our heroes... and PINKku.
>>282533615>
>>282533571It's getting so tiresome!
>>282532812>StoryJiren's backstory > GT>AnimationAny Jiren fight > GT>CharactersJiren by himself > All GT characters COMBINED>ReceptionJiren > GT>PopularityJiren saved the Dragon Ball franchise and Super lasted for 131 episodes > GT killed the franchise for ten years and got cancelled at 64 episodes. DONE.
>>2825337672 is better
>>282533691Jiren is shit and Super is dogshit. GT is the last time this franchise had actual soul.
>>282533691T.Ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_-G9Yru0fQ
>>282533978She would NOT say this
>>282533978...is what I would say if I had severe mental retardation
>>282533978The new super is bad, touristhttps://files.catbox.moe/dp9r0m.jpg
>>282533978You have shit taste. GT is gold for scholars who have good taste.
GT kept the spirit of Z and showed the EOZ progress unlike Super which degraded the entire cast and made them losers
>Hey I'm Goku I'm even more retarded now!>Hey I'm Bejita, my character development from Buu is gone and now I'm a house husband obsessed with my rival even though at the end of Buu we found a mutual admiration and respect for each other >hey I'm Gohan I like bugs and jobbing. My 12 year old self still mogs me btw
>>282506028i would have Z end after frieza like originally intended, have goku not return from namek until way later and have gohan take over as MC thinking his father died
>>282534263you nailed it. i hate Mickey Ball Super.
>>282533767now we just need to bin that fuck ass armor and we'll be in business.
>>282534548But the tournament of power :( Wasn't it so cool when Jiren did nothing? That totally redeems super
Beerus’ rear end? My EXCLUSIVE property.
>>282533668I find it bizarre that the art in these Dragon Ball games is full of effects and very flashy, while Toriyama's art is cleaner...
>>282534579Whis...
That's because they're meant to emulate card games. Where the higher value rare stuff has flashier art just like pokemon or mtg cards
>>282534579NUly…
>>282534702meant for>>282534581
>>282505363Tournament of Power, if that is not enough to convince you, I don't know what will
>>282534333>>282534790
>>282534263>I'm a house husband obsessed with my rival even though at the end of Buu we found a mutual admiration and respect for each otherSo because he respects Goku more that means he accepts being forever inferior to Goku and drops the rivalry? A rivalry can't just be a healthy thing? Almost like that was the real point of Majin Bejita, getting over all the cancerous elements and just leaving a healthy rivalry? Even Toriyama doesn't think this shit because he added a panel of Bejita swearing to defeat Goku to EoZ. I do not care for the SS2 tier benched cuck that is GT Bejita. GT can't even give him SS3.
when are we getting db super season 2?
>>282535152The only way evil Saiyans canon if he was Towa servant
>>282534577my favorite part of the ToP is when, for the first 9/10ths of the tournament, it's clearly established that every eliminated contestant is marked as such and then appears in the stands with the remaining observers to watch the rest of the tournament, but everyone suddenly forgets that when Freeza and Android 17 are eliminated, even though there's only one set of bleachers left that everyone's crammed into together. literal "peekaboo" tier narrative consistency.
>Super Vegeta "GRRR I DON'T CARE IF WE MIGHT LOSE AND DESTROY AN ENTIRE UNIVERSE! I REFUSE TO HELP YOU KAKAROT! I WILL FIGHT HIM ON MY OWN BECAUSE GRRRRR I R STRONGEST GRRRRRRR I R VEGETA! GRRRRRRRRRR I R ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY SUPER DUPER ULTRA NEW MASTERED SUPER SAIYAN BLUE WILL WIN THIS!">GT Vegeta "Kakarot, if we attack now we'll die. Even with my new transformation, it won't be enough. We must work together and fuse. The Earth is at stake, and I can't let my home be destroyed again."
>>282535034>I'm pussy-whipped and have a tsundere relationship with the guy who always outshines me.
>>282535263kys Supertoddler
https://youtu.be/YpOvJkzvRFw>Vegeta challenges Goku>Goku makes a joke about being hungry>Vegeta.....LAUGHS!? Now that's character development If this was Super Vegeta would've done a rant and snarled and growled and YAWWWWWNNMN
>>282535256Super Vegeta still fuses and works together with Goku, watch the show sometime.
GT mogs Super
I fucking LOVE Dragon Ball.
Why are you pretending to be Sakurako Buubro?
>>282535406>ignores the fact that Super Vegeta only does that after being yelled at like a child because he's all "MUH PRIDE MUH PRIDE!"And yet GT Vegeta is not only willing but suggests itCharacter growth
>>282535256GT Vegeta was so goddamn kino.
>>282535446... Daima.
>>282535464So basically, Super Vegeta fuses, and GT Vegeta fuses.
>>282535488The guy that left
>>282535520>So basically, Super Vegeta is forced into fusing by guilt tripping and being treated like a child, and GT Vegeta fuses because he wants to help GokuYes
>>282535585Hater spotted
>>282535585Bad taste friendo
>>282535670Can you kiss me?
>>282535896That's unfortunate. Is it truly over?
>>282535969
>>282535996Practice man. I want to see you at your best when the time comes. I'll try learning how to draw too.
>282536033itadakimasu!
>>282535969Bejita... control yourself.
>>282535965Please don't. Let this place go. All that's left are the cockroaches. Let the demons to their demons.
>>282535925Kek
DB wikis claim Bikal and Kakunsa are gal lovers?
>>282535905>>282535996DrawDEITY has returned!
>>282517742Reminder that the Super Majin was taking orders from some random fat ugly bastard Demon King for no raisin.
>>282531940Goku sure is cute and handsome.
Explain to me again how Tien is human?
>>282538988Tien is a hero.
>>282538988He's an Alien.
>>282533767It's ultra bejita 1.
>>282535256Bejita is better off dead in the saiyan saga. Boring character.
>>282538988He's from the legendary 3 eyed clan.
>>282509096True. dragon ball characters are weak.
Ultra Ego should have had healing like Wolverine or something.
>>282539857Shit take. Good thing no one agrees with you including Toyo, Torishima, and Toriyama.
>>282518452...in bed bed with Bulma nd Chichi after having celebratory sex with them for his 3rd win over Gokek.
all Toriyama had to do was use the original design... i hate these fucking toy salesman decisions. fucking Willy Wonka ass company.
Trapped and betrayed?
>>282540438Ultra Ego was a mistake.
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