I haven’t checked in on Hunter x Hunter’s progress since like 2021. How much has it progressed in the past four years? Have there been any major plot developments?
Hunter x hunter is over.
>>282559759How did it end?
>>282559787with a whimper
the ship was a mistake
>>282559695It’s progressed about 20 chapters. In other words, it won’t be finished. Togashi is too lazy to even do 10 chapters a year but because he sips the “artist pride” kool aid he thinks he should t change his ways.Also he revealed he has 4 endings in mind, which pretty much tells us he knows he isn’t finishing. He said one of the endings, ending D, is a scrapped ending, but could be our ending if he doesn’t finish. It’s pretty much just a generic shonen ending. Gon becomes a legendary hunter, has a grandkid, etc.
>>282559695>Have there been any major plot developments?A few yeah. The war is speeding up at this point and we gained some important insight on one of the major villains.
We got introduced into more nen card games.....
>>28255969510 chapters a year now seems to be the objective.Who knows if he'll deliver, but this year's 10 are ready.
>>282562100He's xeeted 420 background specs?
>>282562208420? not officially yet i guesshe's up to 419maybe optimistic, but it seems incredulous he can't get 420 by the end of the year
>>282562252>it seems incredulous he can't get 420 by the end of the yearKek. Don’t tempt Togashi to flex his hiatus skills
Emission is the projection at distance and separation of aura from the body.Conjuration is the realization of aura into matter.Emission without conjuration can have shape and non-material property.Conjured objects don't require persistent nen use to maintain form, like emission does. They are a wholly distinct nen entity. Nen cost of conjured entities is front-loaded into creation (distinct focus and meditation on the entity) and summoning (seems less costly than initial creation, or maybe just familiarity improves efficiency).Sentience in conjured entities, like nen beasts and Kite's clown roulette or Shizuku's blinky, seems distinct from manipulation.Another possibility is that permitting the entity to have its own sentience and personality is a distinctly common restriction that allows conjurers to sidestep relatively lessened compatibility with manipulation.The entity has a mind of its own, and can choose not to cooperate, perhaps even strengthening as restriction if it's annoying or belligerent.Razor's volleyball squad are primarily emitted, but require some conjurated property to be able to interact physically with the volleyball.Razor is obviously extremely talented, so rigid classification is less relevant.Morel's smoke ninjas, must be primarily emitted, perhaps emits his aura into real smoke particles from his pipe. The properties of this aura imbued in real smoke particles, allow him to mimic material like properties despite lessened compatibility with conjuration? The smokes ability to form air pipes is affected through his aura.He's not necessarily conjuring the smoke. The smoke is real matter that he attaches his aura too, and then manipulates.
>>282562673Aura doesn't require Conjuration to make physical contact with objects. Aura itself can break down walls or tear off clothes, as we've seen early on. It depends if the user wants it to or not. Worst case scenario, an Emitter needs to rely on Transmutation to shape the aura or make it hard or sharp.
>>282562998>Aura doesn't require Conjuration to make physical contact with objects. Aura itself can break down walls or tear off clothes, as we've seen early on.I think in these instances emitted aura is interpretively translating an explosion or dump of energy onto the target, though the collision detection is maybe very rudimentarily conjuration adjacent if its intended to react when it collides with matter.I dont think it would need a mild conjuration property if its only colliding with aura.Emitted aura doesn't necessarily innately collide with material. It can go through walls, etc.
>>282562673>He's not necessarily conjuring the smoke. The smoke is real matter that he attaches his aura too, and then manipulates.yeah he gets his pipe taken away by Pouf and can't create any more
I still feel like the smoke being conjured makes the most logical sense though, and it’s ‘why’ Morel requires the pipe. It’s not his primary function, but is required for his ability to work. While he could be “manipulating” the smokes properties (such as color, density, etc), the other example that comes to mind of manipulating appearance is Illumi, which required him sticking a whole bunch of needles into himself. Perhaps you could argue it isn’t the main facet of his ability either, but it seems like a lot to go through.
>>282563725He doesn't need the pipe if it's conjured.The pipe implies its not conjured. (>>282563362)Changing properties of the smoke would be transmuting.He manipulates the particles to create its shape and movement.
>>282563885No, I think he needs the pipe 'because' it's conjured. The pipe is a restriction, it doesn't need to be lit, he just needs to have it. Doesn't matter if it's lit, it's just the restriction to have to carry a big bulky thing.I won't deny that transmutation could be what's needed to change the properties of things, but that seems more like Conjuration. In fact, the telltale sign of emission is the water changing color.
>>282563992>No, I think he needs the pipe 'because' it's conjured.Okay cool, have fun with your headcanon.It's a much larger stretch to assume the smoke is fundamentally conjured, especially considering the scale and complexity of Deep Purple.A manipulator conjuring upwards of 200 smoke clones.
>>282564079How does it being real smoke make any sense by your own measurements? You think that changing the properties of the smoke is Transmutation, which is the exact opposite of his Nen type. And the fact he blew smoke underwater. How is it more feasible for him to make multiple strong clones through use of Transmutation than 200 clones through use of a heavy restriction?
>>282564159I dont think he uses much transmutation on the smoke.Work it out, buddy.
>>282564178Except the properties of the smoke were explicitly changed when he made a direct clone of himself out of smoke, even if you're trying to imply the basic smoke clones weren't clearly more durable. So again, your argument makes no sense, and you're avoiding the issue.
>>282564216I'm not avoiding the issue at all.I told you explicitly.The smoke is real smoke.He has a fucking pipe that he uses to fucking smoke real smoke.He can't create anymore smoke without the fucking pipe.Through the act of smoking he imbues the smoke with emitted nen, which he manipulates into shapes and puppets.
>>282564295You said>The properties of this aura imbued in real smoke particles, allow him to mimic material like properties despite lessened compatibility with conjurationWhich implies you believe it's a Conjuration thing, being done through Emission yet you also said that changing properties is a Transmutation thing. And you once again ignore the fact he apparently 'smoked real smoke' underwater, which is utter nonsense.
>>282564391>Which implies you believe it's a Conjuration thingNo. I said it "mimics" material like properties, because it's actual literal matter being manipulated into shapes.They're real smoke particles, so they actually collide with real matter.He's not conjuring the smoke.>being done through Emissionyes, WITH emissionthe matter must be imbued with emitted nen in order for it to be manipulated>yet you also said that changing properties is a Transmutation thingTransmutation allows to transform/alter the properties of aura.It doesn't cover the transformation of all properties of everything."Property" is an abstract term for any descriptor or quality.Emission, the distance and separation of aura from the body could be semantically interpreted as a "property".It's a "property" of emitted nen for it to be separated from the body.That doesn't magically make all Emission a subset Transmutation.Are you ESL?I would assume he uses Transmutation to alter the colors of aura in/on the smoke when he's making decoy Knuckles.>And you once again ignore the fact he apparently 'smoked real smoke' underwater, which is utter nonsense.I would assume he uses Transmutation to alter the "properties" of the aura in/on the smoke so that it behaves like a bubble, or a field that pushes out water in order to protect the smoke particle.
>>282564586So again, you think he makes use of his weakest category by a mile, in multiple ways, instead of believing that the restriction of having his pipe allows him to make 200 weak clones.
>>282564641*allows him to conjure 200 weak clones
>>282564641No, I don't believe the transmutation of color/bubbleness of the aura is anywhere close to the scale of directly conjuring massive amounts of smoke.Honestly, you should be attempting to find some evidence or make a real argument that the pipe is a restriction.You might start with why he would have/need a pipe at all if he can just create smoke.It's not a restriction to have a pipe.
>>282564730I think the ability to make as much smoke as he does is indeed because he has to carry the pipe. He could easily carry a smaller backup pipe for emergencies, but there’s no indication he does so. I don’t mind you arguing that the smoke is real, I’m the type who finds this kind of argument enjoyable, but I do take some issue with you believing that huge pipe isn’t a restriction.Something related is how by all accounts, Killua shouldn’t need to ‘recharge’, that’s just a restriction. Transmuters should have no need to continuously expose themselves to whatever they’re transmuting once they’ve managed to do so.
>>282564794>but I do take some issue with you believing that huge pipe isn’t a restriction.It's not.It doesn't restrict anything about himself or his abilities.It's not a disadvantage to carry a pipe.It's actually functionally redundant if he doesn't need it.Redundant, but not limiting.If he could use a small backup pipe, he would have after Pouf took away his regular pipe.Do you understand what "restriction" means?Are you ESL?
>>282559695What do you mean, Togashi already said he ended the story, what is """"currently"""" coming out is just the Boruto of the franchise.
>>282564877Are you? Having to carry a huge pipe is absolutely restrictive. You're saying if he could use a small backup pipe after Pouf, he would have used it, and I agree with that. The fact he's forced to use the huge pipe and not have a backup is the restriction. What's so hard to understand about what I'm saying?
>>282564932>Having to carry a huge pipe is absolutely restrictive.Do you understand, that restrictions have to be karmically proportionate with the increase in nen ability/power?What part of, i dunno, maybe bumping it against a doorway as you walk through?, is proportionate with any meaningful power increase in nen ability?What do you think is restrictive about carrying around a large pipe that he uses as a club?What do you think "restriction" means?What is being restricted?
>>282564999In the first place, only being able to use the main facet of his power through one (1) single intermediary is absolutely a restriction, no two ways about it. Yes he can manipulate smoke without it, but if he can't create further smoke without it, then it's very clearly a restriction. I don't understand how you could possibly disagree with this.And it's a big club, very noticeable. It's only due to his privileges as a Hunter that he can carry that around as much as he does, he had to sneak it into NGL, for one thing. If his opponents get this very obvious tool of his away from him, again, he can't use the main function of his power. If your argument is that it isn't much of a restriction, maybe that's fine. But to not call it a restriction at all is nonsensical.
>>282565076>single intermediary is absolutely a restrictionby default he can't smoke without some kind of pipe or cigarit's not a restriction for him to have a pipe to smoke>but if he can't create further smoke without it, then it's very clearly a restrictionhey retardnot being able to make smoke is his default statethats not a fucking restriction>it's a big club, very noticeableretarded, not a restriction>It's only due to his privileges as a Hunter that he can carry that around as much as he doesbullshitting>he had to sneak it into NGL, for one thingNGL doesn't permit any sort of technology or modern material to enter legallyYou're over-committed to your dumb headcanon.I can't tell if you really believe this retarded stuff.
>>282565251>it's not a restriction for him to have a pipe to smokeBut it is for him to only be able to do so with his huge pipe>not being able to make smoke is his default state thats not a fucking restrictionHe could have structured his ability to be able to do so without it, Knuckle needs no intermediary to create Potclean, while Killua shouldn't need to recharge to use electricity. Abilities are made with restrictions in mind.>retarded, not a restrictionliterally is>bullshittingPerhaps. Do we see him carry the pipe inside a regular building in a nonemergency state?>NGL doesn't permit any sort of technology or modern material to enter legallyUh huh. And yet both Knov and Netero were able to use their abilities inside NGL without needing to sneak it in.I've already indicated that even if the smoke is real, the pipe is a restriction, the fact you don't believe it to be is ridiculous.
>>282565251>by default he can't smoke without some kind of pipe or cigar>it's not a restriction for him to have a pipe to smokeNTA, but it's already been established that having a one-of-a-kind intermediary can work as a restriction for a manipulator. Shalnark controls people with his cellphone, and his ability only works with that particular phone. It's headcanon to declare that Morel has the same type of restriction, but it's not completely baseless.
>>282565424Dont encourage him.
>>282565424I already mentioned the intermediary thing. I can’t believe this is even considered a headcanon. The properties of the smoke, sure whatever, but this? I thought this was the most basic reading as soon as Pouf took his pipe away.
>>282562673>The smoke is real matter I don't think so because he was able to use his smoke underwater.Imo he transmute his smoke as transmutation allows greater flexibility for smoke than conjuration could (shaping, color changes, strength). As for the pipe, I consider the role of it similar to Killua shocking himself with a tazer. Both the pipe and tazer are objects associated with the substance they are trying to transmute.
Is Netero’s statue emitted or conjured?
>>282565887Conjured by Netero, then manipulated while active, with the rare emission for zero hand. An argument can be made that its speed and power are also enhanced by Netero himself.
>>282565887No one knows>>282566063>An argument can be made that its speed and power are also enhanced by Netero himself.Netero's flashback established him as being very fast so he is that fast naturally without using enhancement
>>282565475It’s the idea that it’s a one-of-a-kind type of restriction that would be headcanon. It’s not the most unreasonable assumption, but it’s not explicitly confirmed in the way shalnark’s ability is. He’s still working as the association’s top sea hunter, so he’s either retrieved that pipe or he can just use a new one, otherwise he’d be SOL. We’ll see if the morel boat arc ever comes to fruition.
>>282563885>Changing properties of the smoke would be transmuting.Transmuting only alters aura. It doesn't have any effect on physical "real" objects. If you wanted to transform something physical into something else you would use conjuration. It's confusing but it has been a pretty consistent, just look at Hinrigh's fight with Padaille.
>>282567305I think even if all he needs is a pipe that size, that’s still a restriction. Again, not having a smaller backup implies it wouldn’t work, or that he intentionally went without one.
>>282563245It can go through walls. It can also destroy walls. Hatsu works like that without any further input. Emitters don't need to learn a second category to break stuff. Both of Gon's Emitter training exercises necessitate aura being able to contact objects. If aura automatically passed through objects, Gon wouldn't be able to lift himself off the ground with it as a novice Emitter. Also, Conjuration is visible to everyone. If Emitters used Conjuration to make blasts, everybody would see them doing it, and since Emission is the second most common type and blasters the most common of Emitters, you'd think even non-users would be running around talking about these dudes firing off ki blasts evedywhere. It makes more sense that aura itself can damage things, like Wing breaking the wall and Zazan "missing" Feitan, but Emitters do also use Transmutation sometimes to make attacks more deadly.>>282563725>While he could be “manipulating” the smokes properties (such as color, density, etc)That's not how Manipulation works. You can't give something an order to just be something else. For some reason, some fans like to imagine that Manipulation means just about anything, when we know it's just telekinesis/mind control.>the other example that comes to mind of manipulating appearance is Illumi, which required him sticking a whole bunch of needles into himselfHe's moving his face around. Smoke can't move in a way that makes more of it or dramatically changes its color.
>>282567322If it's his aura attached to or imbued in the real smoke particle, then Transmutation could still affect the properties of the smoke its attached to.Not necessarily physically altering the particle, but the arua around it, like giving the aura a bubbleness that makes it function underwater (he's a sea hunter and is probably familiar with bubbles).Color is maybe a little more contrived, but still very plausible.
Gel of the Zodiacs is a coroner.I wonder if she's related or connected to the Embalmer that taught Machi nen
