It's that page again, it's that manga again. Find out how this ended happily in chapter 11-2.The dark yuri that's got everybody asking "What the fuck's going on" only slightly less than I See You, Aizawa-san!
>>282579475>The dark yuri that's got everybody asking "What the fuck's going on" only slightly less than I See You, Aizawa-san!>self-promotingShameless.
>>282579510I should have said "only slightly less than figuring out how to read The Flower Princess of Sylph."
Pretty sure we shouldn't be able to see Sayori's toes here but maybe Igarashi was distracted.
Sayori...
f5 f5 f5
How to tame your menhera: out-menhera her.
I feel like there's problems in this relationship.
>>282579553male gaze bros we won
All's well that ends well.
>>282579845>>282579869I love it when a love story has a happy ending.
>>2825798692nd bubble should be saying more like>If it's midway of our respective unis, I'm thinking around this area.
>permanent sex claw marks
Next chapter has no set date. Igarashi's making it sound like she's moving soon which would mean a short hiatus. Volume 2 releases on the 23rd of October.https://mega.nz/folder/SqoEGRrY#SDVv5jKw1zKuJpLDAyp0mgI'll have Sylph ch30 out in a day or so. Volume 5 just released so I plan to get those extras out next month.Aizawa ch29 has been out and I'll try to get it done before 30's raws are ready.>>282579954Ah yeah you're right.
>>282579907great, no need to revisit this ever again! garçon, i'll have the cotton candy please.
>>282579992Thanks for the TL. Always fun.We kinda predicted this development, bit that rape-around was godly.>moving soonHope she found a good place, to draw more Kasumi.
>>282579992>Igarashi's making it sound like she's moving soonWith her matching scars girlfriend.
>>282579992>Igarashi's making it sound like she's moving soonWith her menhera gf I hope.Thank you for another quick tomorrow!
holy fuck this is so good
>>282579992Here is something nobody asked for
>>282579778At least nobody will claim this is subtext yuri.
>>282579869Sleeves-chan is so seductive
>>282580202:D
>>282579553>SpoilerWhy?
>>282580518She was drawn with her shoes on later >>282579650
>>282579822Did you forget an "about" in the centet bubble?
>>282579578Huh, I mean I expected this, but it's a little surprising it was directly addressed.Didn't expect the snide look part though.
>>282580570>centerWell fuck me I guess.
>>282579669>Ono goes Oh no
>>282579907I almost glossed over the scars on Mizuki's back. I mean, it was obvious they should be there, but I guess I got distracted by the bubbles.
>>282580388Maybe the yuri is in between the lines.
>>282580727That's still her back.
>>282579822>Sayori arching her foot to grind her knee into Ono’s crotchwhew lad…
>>282579799>>282579822Kino
How did we go from this...
>>282580777She was probably licking Ono's lips behind the text bubble.
>>282580561Those are low socks. There's even toe versions.
>>282580793...to this?
>>282579954That makes more sense. So they compromised then. Stay together, different school. I was wondering how they resolved that part.
>>282580202Thanks!>t. Nobody
I got a half chub while reading this chapter but I don't like so much violence in yuri.
>>282579992Thanks!>Next chapter has no set date. Igarashi's making it sound like she's moving soon which would mean a short hiatus.Ohno... I need my fix.But hey, at least it wasn't in the middle of this.
>>282579822>lesbians are... le crazyIs the author for this a man?
I wonder how all that mental illness will bleed into the main pair's relationship.
>>282579578onee-sama>>282579778onee-chan
>>282580803She can't talk that well while doing that. I think.
>>282580817i have said this numerous times now; yuri rape will always strengthen a relationship when done correctly.
I can't believe we only got this single 'ruyo this chapter.
>>282580817All according to keikaku
>>282580817>She really does love me…
Kasumi will keep going down the line of letters and find out the first one was put there by Hitler's lesbian aunt.
>>282580757I'm fairly sure subtext means reading between the lines.
oh
>>282579755>>282579907Those scars look pretty bad. I hope they took a shower after doing it or else it could get infected
>>282581029I'm making a joke on how she had cuts (lines) on her back...
>Breaks promises>Get's closer togetherBut I thought it was bad to break promises?
>>282579845I mean, it was obvious Sayori must have gotten off it if she stuck around Mizuki, but I didn't expect her to be that much of a power bottom.
>>282579907Everyone yuri mangaka wants to be the new Manio but they're all afraid to fully commit
>>282581147They're going to live together despite going to separate schools, which is technically not breaking promises.
>>282580202Did you ask permission?
>>282580815This is how you can tell the author is a woman, no man would be aware of technology like this
>>282581202A man with a foot fetish would. These are very common to wear with the usual OL getup unless she's wearing stockings. It's not half gloves level of niche.
>>282581202>shoujo-like artstyle>huge hands + size gap>low socksAny other signs I'm missing?
>>282581139I was making a joke about how the yuri was in between those lines.>>282581176But Sayori broke it first, which was what led to this. Because she just blindly agreed to everything, well, not actually blindly now that I think back, she was actually hesitant to go to that school, but she still agreed nevertheless, so you can't even say she was just saying yes without thinking. It was so obvious even Ohno noticed it. Which makes me wonder, it was just festering there all that time? I wonder if they'll address that part, or just wrap it up. It isn't particularly important per se, but it is interesting.
>>282581269The artistic sense also feels very feminine
>>282581309I am continuing to reply under spoilers just in case anyone decides to read them.
>>282580570I wanted to keep the bubble "light" and broke down both their dialogue on a few lines to match their passion and exertion.>>282580670It's interestingly framed. The dialogue casually carries you down the page, but noticing the scars drowns everything else out. One of those cases where I feel the bubbles packed with information resulting in smaller font sizes matches well.>>282580815Come to think of it no Japanese would be caught dead wearing shoes indoors.
>>282581202Pretty sure Igarashi Jun is a man. The characters are too flanderized.
>>282581376No way
>>282581202I knew of them from Ringoya's Shizuku doujin. Shame that I've never seen socks like these in the west.
>>282581202If you mean just aware, i.e. not surprised when you see them, rather than actively remembering them, I think I've known of them, at least by inference if not outright because of those OL shoes you see, yet for some reason you never actually see the socks.It's either that or I saw them somewhere before.
>>282579705Oh no she is a corruptionfag...
>>282581309She never actually agreed to attend the same college. Granted, she could have communicated her intent better but then she wouldn't have gotten raped like she really wanted.
This is literally the only proof you need that the author is a woman. A man would simply never think of giving their female character this outfit for a "date" chapter, not even in a trillion years
>>282581376If the author were a man, the clothes wouldn't have been covering up so much; you'd be seeing a lot more ass and sideboob.
>>282581527Eh, fair.But I'll note at least that she was basically leading her on going by their future interactions. And that part later on where she talks to her parents and was thinking that that was a good excuse to get out of it makes it seems like she agreed in spirit, if not in words. Well, "agreed" at least. But you get what I mean.
>>282581527
>>282581583That's what I meant; Sayori was in regular contact with Mizuki but never brought up the topic of "hey I'm going to a different school but we can still live together" which is still upholding the spirit of their promise. The onus was on her, not to say I blame her or that she deserved to get slashed but since she really enjoyed it I guess it's all good.
>>282581403Why is her left asscheek so much bigger than the right?
>>282579731This is art.
>>282581563Incorrect, most ecchi/erotic yuri is made by women.
>>282581403What do you mean never seen? In real life? The point of them is to not be seen while you're wearing shoes.
>>282579869>>282579907This is a perfect example of well done "catharsis".All that build-up, from their hurt feelings, bottling things up, not being honest. And then it explodes and they are left healthier and happier.>>282580727Heh. It sure is between those lines.
>>282581690>but never brought up the topic of "hey I'm going to a different school but we can still live together"I think that wasn't actually something she was thinking of before this. I'll say it was actually post-scarring.Without that, I'll confidently say that they'll go not just to different schools, but also stay in different places.Unless you can point me to something that says otherwise?
>>282581790Anon just isn't a footfag. Good for him.
peak
>>282581767I said "if the author is a man, the bodies would be more exposed", which does not imply "if the author is a woman, the bodies would be less exposed", only the converse.
>>282581840That's catharsis for a real-life relationship but narratively it's not as satisfying that they both ended up being crazy. Feels like a cop-out with no real consequences other than a couple of scars.
>>282581853I interpret it that way because it makes the situation more ironic. That Mizuki would have had no need to blow up at Sayori if the latter had just communicated better. There's no explicit basis for that. I can only answer the subsequent "then why didn't Sayori lead with that?" with the Doylist "because the author needed rape to ensue" or the Watsonian "because Sayori wanted Mizuki to rape her".
>>282581979Well it's not like the manga's over. Things could still go wrong with them. But do there need to be consequences? Can't a happy ending be a little fucked up too? There's been a lot of twists with this pair but ultimately I don't think this manga's going for tragedy and this outcome is satisfying in the way it twists all their issues into something sweet.
>>282581979No, I'm talking about the buildup in the story, not so much the relationship development.But I also disagree on that it was unsatisfying. I think this is a great way for it to end. They were drawn to eachother for a reason and they found happiness in their own way. I enjoy that sort of thing far more than some boring "and then they broke up and got therapy" shit.I want to read about how love wins. Twisted, bloody and sometimes painful, but it wins.
>>282582054I interpret it as Sayori was basically autopiloting since then, note that her parents questioned her choice of schools right before this, and she was planning, grudgingly, to go to the same school as Ohno, but she used what her parents said as an out.I'll say it isn't as simple as communicate better. But leading back to >>282579509 it's more that they were stuck in the swamp, so to speak, there were other solutions, but Sayori specifically was stuck in too deep to even consider them, it's also a contrast to the main couple, where Baruyo at least talks to her parents about it, while Sayori never said anything to anyone else. Their new solution isn't necessarily easy, commuting times can be killer after all, though not necessarily dealbreaker level, but it is one that allows them to stay together.But anyway, coming back to it, my point is that Sayori most definitely was committed to a certain extent to go to the same uni as senpai. Which is why we had that scene where her parents questioned her choices. And then Sayori used that as an out from that. Going by how likely emotional it all was and how short the time frame seems to be, and of course how Sayori never even bothered to tell her parents why she wanted to go to that uni in the first place, I can confidently say she never considered the same home, different uni option.
>>282582126>I want to read about how love wins. Twisted, bloody and sometimes painful, but it wins.Same. Reminder the boxcutter chapter came out the same time when the watayuri one came out and revealed that Goeido became the way she was because her GF basically "just a phase" her.I'm sure I'll get some recommendations now, but I'm honestly surprised it took this long for a story to be written, or at least translated, about how a girl refuses to bow and was going to fight for what she wants. Though admittedly Ono senpai probably was going to give her up >>282579553 >>282579578, though not before scarring her.
Please god do not let something like this happen to Paruyo.
Paruyo's bro is menhera with his boyfriend.
>menhera women>it must be a man writing thisWhat causes this
>>282580817To answer critically, I keep coming back to this. Sayori has this smoldering rebellious spirit within her, but is too afraid to meaningfully rock the boat as a member of society. She's so wannabe punk it's almost pathetic. She can't graffiti a wall, she can only mark a tiny rose nobody could possibly notice. She can't tell her non-lesbian classmates to suck it, she can only mentally deride them. Her whole fascination with secrets is likely in part because of the ability to avoid the consequences of open rebellion.Then Mizuki breaks all the rules, in all the ways Sayori was afraid to, and more. Don't let her chest puffing fool you, Sayori could never have done anything like that on her own initiative. It was only because Mizuki allowed her to. She could only act in kind because she was given an outlet under Mizuki's knife. And that's why she stuck around: Mizuki lets her be the rebel she's too afraid to be around anyone else.
>>282581269The author read Ribon growing up. She also submitted her drafts to the same magazine several times but failed to get a series. Oh, and she's a BL reader. 99.99% a woman.
>>282582336It felt more like going crazy from being terrified of losing her, than fighting for her.She was lucky her gf recognised it as the proof of how badly she loves her, that her being dishonest drives her to such desperation.
Rember the letters? I rember.
>>282582887>And that's why she stuck around: Mizuki lets her be the rebel she's too afraid to be around anyone else.I have the same impression, from her going back and forth between agreeing with Mizuki when in front of her and then with her parents when in front of them.Thats why this activated her neurons so hard and reminded her why she fell in love to begin with, Mizuki is the one willing to do things.
>>282582997But senpaitachi were writing letters, specifically 川.
>>282579475Wait.That page is from that manga....I haven't read it but I remember a lot of chapters focused in the cutesy mousey girl with black hair and the oke with short white hair.Is picrel a side pairing?>Or actually they are the main pairing and the one I said the side one?I'm confused by the difference of wholesomeness on those chapters and whatever the fuck is happening in this one.
>>282579650>>282579705bitch shouldve yelled>harder dyke, I can barely feel the blade
>>282583049Yes, the two in that pic are a side pairing.
>>282582945Well, it definitely was a mental break. Remember how that episode started, it was all going fine, her gf came to visit her for what seemingly is the first time, or at least the first time in a long time. Then the first thing she says is how they couldn't be together.Otoh, as I also noted, we can see >>282579578 that she was already aware of how Sayori really feels. But I think we'll never really know how Ohno-senpai was feeling all that time. Unless they dedicate another chapter to them, but the ending here feels final.
>>282579650Is this what is meant by "bite the pillow; I'm going in"?
>>28258117>>282582802Gachialuta author is a woman
>>282580936Why is everyone calling it rape when the girl was totally on board about it?
>>282583386Consensual rape.
>>282583386She didn't sign the waiver, ergo rape.
>>282583536She signed her back.
>>282582459> Kasumi has a lot of pent up anger and self-hatred> felt like punching her before> is falling in love more and more, and is super jealous> Haruyo can be careless and mess up easilyHer odds are pretty bad, anon.
The visual imagery has always been something that drew me to this series, but Igarashi is really knocking it put of park with this chapter. All the physicality in every panel is stellar. I can’t pull me eyes away
>>282579650The tamest of lesbian(true love) foreplay.
I’m just gonna say it, I was fucking righthttps://desuarchive.org/a/thread/282269215/#282278569
At this point I’m reasonably sure that the finale is going to be Paruyo cutting the noose Kasumi wants to hang herself with.
>>282585475That's more Baruyo's speed.
>>282585031>I think the “curtain” being pulled exposing the wilting flower is pretty relevant. It also looks like a hand gripping a bed sheet. I think it suggests the current state of the senpais’ relationship: the white and upright silhouette being a facade or even a memory (what the two show our protagonists—perhaps fuelled by a desire to protect these “seeds”, this continued tradition that represents their past love), and the wilting upside down flower being the reality>perhaps revealed by intense passionYour other points were also pretty accurate but the bed sheet being a passionate curtain pull was perfectly on point
>>282585031I didn't expect the symbolism to be spelled out explicitly to be honest. And we all realized that Sayori had to be insane to stick around Mizuki after the incident, but I'm not sure how many people genuinely thought she'd be even more insane than her.
>>282585728Ono isn't that crazy imo. The stress broke her down at that point. Sayori otoh.
Do you think the author is aiming for the anthology approach like AnoKiss?
>>282585810I can't remember how they did it, but I believe so.Though from what little I remember, I think this would keep the main couple more front and center and use them as a connecting thread.They'll trace back the letters I believe. But the next one would tell us more.
>>282585770Yeah I didn't think Mizuki was crazier than Sayori normally. She has her issues but they aren't difficult to work with. Meanwhile, Sayori is an artist.
Still no cover for volume 2?
>>282585031>>282585635> So maybe it would be amorous passion that would bring forth this decayed and maybe even ruined (though once gleaming) love. Or it was this unchecked passion that caused this aforementioned transformation.I thought this was more accurate to be honest. Their love was sweet and innocent and after that night of deranged passion turned it into something bitter and filthy but it was this night that rekindled their love as they were just growing apart
>>282585770You have to have a fair amount of crazy to slash your girlfriend's back from the shoulderline to the small 6 fucking times and then get all gushy when she repays in kind.
>>282585912>>282586035Actually, I'll go as far as to say that Ono is fairly normal. She was crushed by the stress and broke at that point when her last hope is gone and lashed out.Well, fairly at least, normal people normally don't act on such impluses, but who really knows.Sayori otoh feels a lot more calculated in her actions.
>>282586204Normal people can definitely do crazy shit during a mental break. It would be different if Mizuki was planning on cutting Sayori if she tried to break up but this comes off as spontaneous.
>>282586443>but this comes off as spontaneous.That's my point, yeah. Because she was also apologetic after she did that. >>282579778She knows what she did wrong and all that and was willing to step back, so to speak. The truly crazy ones won't.
>>282586443Definitely is a panic mode lashing out. She’s perfectly fine up until Sayori tells her she’s bailing on her when she’s already at her lowest and struggling to keep her head above water in a situation she put herself in solely to keep Sayori’s “eyes on her”. She was also immediately aware of how fucked up what she did was after the adrenaline faded and was willing to call the cops on herself had Sayori not stopped her.
>>282579778Just pointing this out because no one else did, but Mizuki's pointing the blade at her own neck bottom right.
>>282586548Yeah I clocked that too. Hand shaking right before she says she’ll turn herself in and stay away from her
>>282586548I never noticed it damn!
>>282586548Oh my gah
>>282579869>>282579907Unexpectedly cute end
this chapter was so good it inspired me to reread the whole series from start to finish yet again. Every moment still hits even on repeated reads
>>282579475
>>282588035I'd just finished rereading right before the chapter and it was great. I noticed a lot of stuff that I glossed over the first time. Igarashi is a genius.
>>282579869This is a great page to post out of context, perfectly innocent
>>282589139ghostblocked
>>282581340I read them
>>282579845Oh my
>>282588035It had such a special atmosphere in those early chapters...
>>282581483Girl of supreme taste I see
>>282579907Imagine if Sayori's cuts actually healed up just fine and didn't leave any visible scars like these ones so only moesleeves is marked like this.
>>282586204I feel like calculated is the wrong way to describe Sayori. She's far too reactionary and really lacks initiative. I'm really trying to iron out Sayori's psychology and I keep seeing these patterns. As >>282582252 points out, Sayori is kind of being a yes (wo)man both toward Mizuki's proposal to live and attend college together, and then folding to her parents when they suggest an alternative with little assertion on her own part.Pic related is another example: she has this desperate desire to be punk, yet finds herself questioning "is this allowed", and tries to pin it on Mizuki to commit the most trivial act of graffiti that nobody could possibly notice until she turns it around on Sayori, where she relents but still asks Mizuki to be her lookout out of fear of being caught. Her words and actions have a considerable disjoint: despite her desires, she can only muster the most petty acts of rebellion when being spurred on by Mizuki. Even the S LARP was the latter's idea. Noighd had previously pointed out how weird it seemed that Sayori at times goes out her way to neg Mizuki despite clearly being captivated by her, and that comes up again very obviously this chapter. Again, I see this as her attempt to project the image of a bad bitch to compensate for the lack of mental fortitude to actually commit to the bit. Her comment reflecting on Hana Monogatari's Paulownia betrays a sense of jealous relief that she's not the one being left behind.
>>282589685She reflects on her experience in the previous year as "just what she needed at the time", hell she repeats this thrice in that chapter. So then what changed? What does she need now? As multiple people have pointed out, Sayori is noticeably the most crazy one of the lot. But for whatever reason, she does not allow herself to express her inner emotions, until Mizuki gives her the outlet: "You did this to me because you love me; I love you, so let me do the same to you." Ironically, despite Mizuki's outburst about needing Sayori beside her, it appears Sayori needs Mizuki even more, precisely because she lacks the ovaries to be her unhinged self without Mizuki's initiative. The question remains exactly why, despite her inner, crazy self, is Sayori so pent up? What keeps her in the shackles of cowardice? The more I think on it, I can't help but see Sayori as quite simply pitiful. It is, on the one hand, romantic that her relationship is what allows her to be true to herself, but the utter inability to do so on her own two feet is just that: pitiful.
>>282589698We may never get deeper insight into why Sayori is the way that she is. It comes off like she was always bottled up and doing what she was “supposed to do” and maybe there isn’t some grand dramatic catalyst for that. Mizuki kind of through herself at her and was always the one pushing her to be secretly rebellious. But Sayori was so hyper focused on being a secret bad bitch that she never realized that letting Mizuki gas her up was also making Mizuki entirely dependent on her.She has a whole wistful monologue about how Mizuki gets no respect from anyone and how she’s the only one who has given her the time of day. Then she tries to blow her off with the same flowery “well it happened just like this in Hana Monogatari” logic. She was so up her own ass that even though she admits to being obsessed with Mizuki she somehow never considered dumping someone who’s been planning their whole life around you would end poorly. Anyway I guess what I’m saying is I don’t know that there’s anything deeper than Sayori was bored, started Class-S’ing with Mizuki for a selfish lark, and didn’t truly fall for Mizuki until she showed her that she could be selfish too by marking her for the rest of her life.
>>282579650so this is metaphorically like if ono had a peenwiss and took her virbginity
>>282590322I'm not exactly holding my breath for solid answers going forward, but this whole thing has got me in a rather contemplative mood. I think there's enough of an answer to why Sayori had that rebel spirit initially, in that she's fucking unhinged, but it's the disjoint, the fact that she is so devoid of initiative, so spineless in the barest modicum of social pressure, without an obvious source of oppression bearing down upon her. It really That's what makes her both intriguing and pitiful.I was going to push back slightly on your point that Sayori didn't truly fall for Mizuki until after the incident, but the fact that her first response to Mizuki's outrage is "who is this?" really speaks to the notion that she didn't really know Mizuki's true colors at all, and as you suggest really glossed over Mizuki's own feelings while projecting her own fantasies onto her, or rather drawing upon her to be afforded opportunities to play the part of the bad bitch.
>>282579578Interesting resemblance.
>stab and slice me as you threaten me to bed>you've awakened my trap card of 'lets both be crazy emo cutters'Very insane. Completely healthy, they won't blow up later.
While I haven't cut myself with a razor blade before, I have used them to open various packages, including plastic wrappings around meat. It's not easy making a shallow incision that only breaks the first few layers of skin, oftentimes I cut deeper into the meat than I intended to.I know this is the manga world but damn, they must have some precise and steady hands to only leave outer level scarring, especially with the blade pushed all the way out like that. Any deeper and they would require stitches.
>>282579907Th-thank you, noighd onee-sama...!
Sylph todaymorrow!
>>282579731This mangaka has potential. Can't remember the last time I read a yuri series or even romance in general, where the art contained so much intent behind it.
Igarashi did move. So expect time off.>>282590322You would like Dominant. Like I've said, Sayori and Etsurou have very similar arcs, though we get more into why Etsurou is the way he is. I hope we don't go the anthology approach since these 2 are so interesting but there is an air of finality. Then again maybe Igarashi wants to explore a "post-Dominant" Etsurou-type.>>282591524There is a very metaphorically sexual component beneath the obvious lewd imagery. I'd be shocked if they hadn't had sex before, but you could describe this as their "first time" baring themselves to each other in a raw and initially painful experience that leaves both vulnerable, despite being done out of love, ending with Sayori basking in the satisfaction of fulfilling Mizuki's needs until nothing but her love is left. There's reason beyond masochism Sayori allowed this. Maybe she recognized it could release the tension between them, but it gradually clarified why she fell for Mizuki in the first place. As discussed their relationship didn't start romantic but haphazardly evolved here and she was reluctant to let go. Mizuki's desperate impulsiveness has always been what unlocks Sayori, allowing her buried self to come "spilling out." Sayori's not the starter but the kerosene on their fire.Of course anons noted how mature Sayori looks after turning over on senpai, that for her at least this could be seen as the moment she went from kid "playing S" to woman taking the reigns. Maybe this was in fact the burial of their S relationship and senpai-kouhai dynamic, considering this scene (in 10) was the last she called Mizuki "senpai." Mizuki meanwhile is so caught up in passion she's horrified and afraid she went too far in self-satisfying aggression, even less ready for the line they crossed and the desires she felt. In a way scarring Mizuki's back is their aftercare, a reassurance of mutual affection and equal standing.
>>282586548I noticed but then nothing happened so it slipped my mind. I was assuming it just happened to be that way, but I guess not.
>>282589685Both of those are mine lmao.For the second chronological post, I had issues with the term calculated. Calculating was considered but was obviously wrong, cold-blooded was also considered but... maybe it fits more? Ohno's hot-blooded passion where she just carved up her gf, contrasted with Sayori's cold-bloodedness to just let her do it to verify how much she actually loves her.>then folding to her parents when they suggest an alternative with little assertion on her own part.Yes, and no. It's not so much that she folds to them than taking it as an easy way out.I would say she is reactive instead of active. Though for this I would always remember the oddity of how she always looks at Ono first, and not vice versa. I wonder what's that about.>>282590322>didn’t truly fall for MizukiDepends on what you mean by that. She could probably envision a life together before that point. But it was after where she was willing to sacrifice more to get to it.>>282594502>Igarashi did move. So expect time off.Ono. I can already hardly wait, at least it's not a cliffhanger.
>>282594502>Sayori and Sleeves-chan are moving>so is the authorWhat exactly did Igarashi mean by this?
>>282595549>Sayori is good at art>Igarashi is good at art
>>282595549https://bsky.app/profile/nishi55.bsky.social/post/3lzsws7wzsc2iDon't think too deeply about that or why she's tweeting the exact model of Mizuki's boxcutter, how well they cut, where to buy them, and how she even bought them in bulk.
>>282596215Okay, that’s it, this sends me over the edge to make a bsky account. I need to see that menhera energy raw and unfiltered.
>>282596215>turns into an autobiography two volumes inI’m scared yet aroused
>>282596215She's just having a boxcutter giveaway right?
>>282598949She was an architecture student. Too poor to pursue a career as a designer though, but at least you can tell some of her training is useful in her manga.
>>282598949She's working on a novel merch idea.
>>282594502I'm the anon who that one was replying to, but my understanding is Etsurou's "happy end" is that he's finally able to walk away from it all, whereas this kind of fucked up nonsense is more narratively satisfying for me, that what would logically should have been a horrifyingly traumatic experience was something of a sincere bonding moment between two menhera, and yet they both have enough self-awareness to realize they really shouldn't have gottten to that point, deep down the the act of baring their inner selves to each other (in a literal and emotional sense) left them with more satisfaction and regret and made their relationship "healthier". Not that they made a habit out of severe laceration play (I hope).I'd still not say I'm sure Sayori is truly taking the reigns here. Again, everything she does is reactionary to Mizuki's input. Her attitude of bravado seems forced, as if she's trying to magnify those little drops of her inner self that she keeps trapped that Mizuki drew out. As I've said, she's only ever the bad bitch because Mizuki allows her to (tears it free by force). Sayori does, however, learn that there needs to be more active effort into the relationship on her own part. She's the one suggesting the shared apartment location, then offering to get matching hair dyes. That latter bit specifically contextualized with the imagery of Mizuki's matching scars, which is to say that on Mizuki's part, she doesn't even seem to see it as punishment for what she did. It's treated after the fact almost as a "teehee we're such bad girls playing with knives" that it trumps logical awareness such that it's a fond, intimate memory for both of them. Even though they're not flaunting it to the world, they're quite proud of it. Those ends of the scars peeking over the hem of Mizuki's top are the little gestures they make in public that hint at their private debauchery. That subtle taunt of superiority over the sheep who can only stay within the norm.
>>282595165It seems cold-blooded by contrast, certainly, in how casually she speaks about cutting up her girlfriend without lashing out in passion, but at the same time, it's one of the first instances that she's truly in tune with what Mizuki needs. She's opportunistic. She'd never come up with the idea of carving matching scars into each other as a mark of their love and a physical manifestation of the two of them drawing out each others' inner selves, but since it's come to this, why not seize the moment?That ties into why she's always looking at Mizuki first: she's waiting for her to give that signal to break the rules and to unleash the desires of the bad bitch she keeps locked inside herself. That's why I was saying Sayori needs Mizuki just as much (if not more) than Mizuki needs her: Sayori cannot act on her own initiative, and Mizuki is the one person who allows her to act in defiance of normality.What I assume that anon meant by not truly falling for Mizuki is that the aforementioned opportunism was kind of one-sided. She glosses over what Mizuki says and is so ignorant of her emotionally that she's so blindsided by Mizuki's eruption of anger that she doesn't even recognize her as the same person. This line betrays a severe lack of awareness of her partner on Sayori's part.
so when is the actual on screen kissing and sex, all this implication and sex-adjacent shit feels inadequate
>>282601724>actual on screen kissing and sexYou're not allowed to see it.
>>282601772huh? >>282579650i don't mind if we ape the tsugumomo and mato slave threads though, that shit is funny
>>282601724I pray she’s saving the actual on screen kiss for Kasumi and Haruyo. Definitely could have had it with Sayori and Mizuki but I was happier with the constant hinting about her lip balm. Simulated sex with boxcutter-kun was a better payoff anyway
>>282600559>but my understanding is Etsurou's "happy end" is that he's finally able to walk away from it allWell he cuts ties with the people who love and care for him so he can go back to his psycho girlfriend because he thinks he's too fucked up to be around them anymore. Though their relationship isn't equal like SayoMizu seems to be, nor as harmonious. Etsurou both loves and openly hates Miu, but he's so burned out he can't stay angry at her either. And Miu's just happy not to lose him. We only get a glimpse of them together post-reconciliation which is why I think Igarashi might want to explore what happens next with a pair that goes through this fucked up bonding.>I'd still not say I'm sure Sayori is truly taking the reigns here. Again, everything she does is reactionary to Mizuki's input. True. She takes initiative here and there but I think Mizuki is still leading the charge. The post-chapter art Igarashi drew might spell it out: Sayori is perceptive and shrewd, eyes glaring out, while Mizuki is rash and excitable, just a running mouth.>>282601724The final chapter will be an abstract series of lines and fingers like that "box cutter approaching back" panel.
>>282600957cute!
>>282600957Sumichan seems remarkably enthusiastic about this arrangement.
>>282602574Admittedly I don't quite have the story straight between your snippets and screenshots, hammers and broken guitars. That sense of lingering resentment is kind of a turnoff and paints a more Stockholm syndrome type of arrangement, whereas Sayori comes off as perhaps even grateful for what Mizuki did to her, not that she could have ever asked for it on her own given her lack of initiative. I think the eyes and mouth dynamic is quite appropriate, in that until the incident Sayori was unable to truly see Mizuki's suffering, and Mizuki in turn was unable to truly voice it. It was an eye-opener and a mouth opener. But there is a bit of nuance: >>282579578Mizuki was perceptive enough to recognize that she was looked down upon. I guess what remains to be seen for Sayori is if she's capable of acting like the bad bitch in front of anyone other than Mizuki.
Sylph bump
>>282579907Happy end?
>>282579650this looks het-coded
>>282608813I mean, she is penetrating her
Bumpity rumpity~
Sumi-chan stay strong
>>282580903Sounds like the average yuriturd's impression of yuri.
>>282589139kek that image
The knife stays in during sex.
will kasumi's eventual choking fetish be cringe or based
>>282617989Cringe because it makes Paruyo uncomfortable. She'll still do it of course, she'd do anything for Kasumi, but she'll be sad for days afterwards.
>>282618436Baruyo will correct her.
>>282579553>>282579578>senpai caressing Sayori's back, boobs, and shouldershot
>>282620143>licking up her back before driving the knife in This chapter awakened something that should have stayed asleep
Dear flowersdflowers for short
I hope this manga tackles homophobia because let's be honest, class s was a mask for it
>>282620960Saliva has antiseptic properties iirc.She's just being hygenic.
>>282622405Don't shorten it.
>>282626015AriSaku.
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>all this cope about "nah she's just gonna use the knife to sharpen a pencril to draw her, trust, this manga wouldnt go there"Oahahahahahahahahohohohohohohoho ooohhh.
>>282623100Probably not from Paruyo and Kasumi's POV.
>>282626015I love the deflower manga
>>282630776kasumi def could be closeted, at least to others
You now remember creatura
>>282633294Is she a little sister?
>>282633294>KitaKawaShit taste.
>>282633991So is Paruyo's thing just called o-chan?
Noighd, you goofed on the chapter title for 29.Also, Enna being so spiteful toward Sara because she's a deeply repressed jealous closet gay is just about the least surprising plot twist I can imagine. Does that make it officially a harem now, since Sara's suitors include Natalia, snek, Tania, and Enna?
Can we have a Paruyo version too
>>282636442Saku-chan has a girlfriend too?
Alright don't tell anyone but this is the Sylph thread now.Also I'm seriously at my breaking point so I might give up on obfuscated reading. This was never meant to last. I thought I'd only be doing it for a few months at most. But we're at almost double the chapter count and the official EN's not catching up. The temporary solution's turning more permanent and that thought scares me. I don't want to drop it but the toll this takes never got any lighter. Like I still love reading it but this has easily been the most painful scanlation I've done. I probably could have worked on 2 manga in the time I waste agonizing over this every month. Not to mention the complications: Kamejiro making frequent edits to old chapters as minor as adjusting resolution but requiring hours to fix, the differences in volume versions between Amazon and Booth that make it impractical to do anything but upload them in full. Something's got to change.
>>282638752Yeah tell 'em Sara.
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>>282639104Buddy cop Enna is fun.
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>>282579475This work is weird. To me, real yuri is about the purity of the feelings between two 2D girls. That purity does not have to be innocence, but can also be understood as undistilled, raw love. As long as purity is intact, yuri is yuri. But then there is this fine line where it just ends up being toxic lesbian smut for reallife whores and fujos that just want their BL themes and tropes in yuri now. Then there is the LGBT movement in Japan that is steadily getting more and more influenced by western standards and it seeps into the manga subculture. This all makes me recoil in disgust whenever i see another trendchasing yuri manga that either is just about sex, bisexuality, abuse, cheating and bdsm. When i think of modern yuri i think of works like Anemone that just cut off all the drama (until editors forced it) and just focused on the progress of the love between two girls. And boy was it cute and wholesome and entertaining. I also think of 5k yen that already balances on the line between yuri and lesbian smut but i would still consider yuri because their feelings for each other (so far) are pure in nature. They girls simply have some issues they probably will fix together. So i am torn on this one. On one hand, i appreciate it artistically and narratively. I can really tell the author knows their stuff and appreciates yuri and its history. On the other hand, it might just go down a route that is just lesbian smut. I see the dancing on the line and the author trying to connect past and modern but i really have to ask "is this what you try to connect to really modern yuri?". I just hope that this one will stay true to what yuri is and maybe create something new and unique instead of just becoming the slop that is "in" right now; lesbian manga filled with bdsm, abuse, cheating.
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>>282639219Suicidal nuns, suicidal goblins, the whole package.
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>>282639250I can't believe Natalia is fucking dead.
>>282638752SARA HOW DARE YOU HARBOR YAYA THOUGHTS
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>>282639300I love the whole conflict with Leah. She has strong flaws but also plenty virtues, including the courage she shows this chapter in spite of being woefully unprepared. Her perspective isn't wholly unreasonable and strikes a strong parallel to Sara that's opening the latter up; you really get the sense they could be good friends if not for circumstances. I think Kamejiro's handling the rival cliche well and I can tell it pains her to tease NTR with her OC OTP with how oblivious Leah is to it.https://mega.nz/folder/SqoEGRrY#SDVv5jKw1zKuJpLDAyp0mgNext month I think both Sylph and AriSaku are on break, so I'll try to get their volume extras out. Sylph's ties into Sara's internal conflict here too. But next is Aizawa 29.
>>282639193>puritylolkys
>>282638752Wait, no, you were supposed to tell me this is the Sylph thread.The official TLs seem to be permanently 10 chapters behind which is pretty rough, even if they use volume release months to play catchup. I get the dilemma you're in because she's self-published but hopefully given the circumstances she's making enough income. If it makes you feel better, I'll be keeping up the 500 yen plan even if you do normal pirate scans. Just keep shilling Booth since I asked her about the cut and Booth gives her a much higher percentage. Volume 6 is as good a time as any to switch over.
>>282639193I love Anemone, but it really could have used a LITTLE more drama to keep the plot moving. CGDCT is always appreciated though. That said Dear Flowers has had this sort of foreboding atmosphere from the jump. The constant brooding from Kasumi. She’s constantly doubting herself, thinking she’s an imposter that isn’t worthy of having anything good in her life. She studies all the time because she thinks that she only has value if she’s succeeding in school and part of that fuel is the suicide of one of her friends that still hasn’t been delved into much. She hates herself so much that she tried to break away from Haruyo because she doesn’t think she deserves to be loved by her. Dear Flowers was always going to go down a dark road. It’s just a matter of how dark it’s going to go. I’d be willing to say even though it’s a pretty fucked up scene, the flashback to Sayori and Mizuki’s “love confirmation” still managed to end positively for them. There’s going to be more trouble ahead but I feel like it’s going to work out for our main girls no matter how bad it gets.
>>282639264are the freaks coming? i haven't been able to keep up
>>282638976I'll do one better, I'll assume every faceless knight is lesbian.
>>282638933Couldn't she bash the cyclops' head in with the club?
>>282639348Leah is painfully naive. Ironically, given the last two chapters, it's the juxtaposition between her pride and Sara's lack of pride that seems to be the sore spot for her more than anything else. I suppose she views pride as equal to conviction. The great irony is that she think Sara would bail to save her own skin, not realizing Sara would jump at the chance to be a martyr given her suicidal nature (only given pause by Natalia's affection).
>>282639816We're getting there but this is just the first wave. It'll probably cool off before getting heavy by the end of vol 6.
>>282638834I'm not sure if this is supposed to be threatening or silly.
>>282639721Trust Igarashi Jun. Paruyo WILL fix Kasumi.
引っ越してから酒を浴びるように飲んでいる。今もめちゃくちゃ飲んでいる。新しい環境に馴染むまでかなり時間のかかる人間なので飲まないとやってられない。前回引越しの時はあっちゃんの訃報直後の引っ越しだったので尚更毎日狂ったように酒を飲んでいた。酒と野菜しか胃が受け付けなかった。BDを再生するといつでも会えるのにもういないと思うと不思議な感じだ。月日はどんどん過ぎていく。よくわからないね。わかろうとしたくないんだと思う。Please don’t die on us…
>>282645447Who's あっちゃん?
>>282638816Bad sister, selfish thoughts.
Igarashi confirmed the curve on top of 11's cover page is a back with the flower blooming from it, which has interesting implications. Last time I interpreted it like a fake pristine flower on the surface for the kouhais but in this context it's more like pure love coming out of Sayori/Mizuki's scars. Igarashi also confirmed they're white clovers, which represent: "think of me, belong to me, promises, and revenge." She also said she didn't look up the meaning until after and was happy it worked out. There's a lot of cold reading to symbolism anyway.>>282645823Lead vocalist for Buck Tick who died 2 years ago. Seems to be Igarashi's favorite band.>>282640926Part of Leah being so sheltered, she just can't comprehend Sara's perspective while Sara seems to have Leah figured out (likely due to her early childhood with her own dad being very similar). But Leah's never gone through the fall Sara did, and Sara was probably always more self-sacrificing/traumatized at her core. There's not any hints Leah's dad was abusive like there is with Sara even if he was trying to use her as a political tool. Since the new version is meant to incorporate For Ranunculus I wonder how deep we'll get into her inner darkness like Sara's suicide attempt Snake Princess saved her from by waterbending the blood back in her body. The tone's a bit lighter now even if there's dark moments.>>282639538Not like I'm any stranger to piracy either - there's plenty argument to be made the more available I make it the more eyes are on it and the more financial support Kamejiro gets. Conversely each new hoop to jump through is guaranteed to lose even happy readers. But I've got emotional hangups with this particular case. I know it's selfish of me but then again I wanted to drop it with the axe. Can't exactly reason yourself out of acting crazy any more than you can fix a broken leg by walking it off. Just have to make do with what I can to drag forward.
>>282638933It's like a giant dog.
>>282645447>the author is an alcoholicDon't tell me she's an actual menhera
Is this the general yuri thread or the other one?
>>282647086This is the AriSaku and now stealth Sylph thread.
>>282646579With the hand placement and bedsheet, I couldn't see it as anything other than the butt of an arched back. I don't think the purity and rot are necessarily contradictory. How can love be pure if it's under a veneer of restraint and bottling up true emotions? There was an element of dishonesty beforehand.
>>282647086Yes
>>282636431Do it Yua Serufu.
>>282638752I appreciate you, noighd
>>282647086this is where you get dflowered
Dflowered in the days of yore
>>282646579Well if you're doing normal scans, sounds like the perfect opportunity to do For Ranunculus with the time saved.
>>282646579>a back with the flower blooming from it, which has interesting implicationsWhen we first saw that and the tease at what was to come, I assumed it was representing “love blooming from a cut” or something like that. Considering that Sayori and Mizuki are shown happily dating in the present. The part that lost me a bit was Sayori comparing Mizuki’s “simmering sugar” eyes to the color of rotting flowers and the visual of rotting flowers growing from her back. I suppose it’s meant to say that even though it’s ugly, love is still blooming in this moment
When’s the teased sumicide arc?
>>282649839Maybe she likes Bad Girls.
>>282647086Yes.
