Which Muv would you Luv?
>>282604447Any that hasnt been some alien's rape victim>So basically none of them kek
Marimo
How the fuck did Muv Luv get so completely run into the ground?
>>282606113Long cool down period when adapting the original into an anime. I don't know what exactly happened to cause this since Age was releasing anime regularly in the 2000's? They released the side stories a decade before the mainline Muvluv Alternative series. Then there was no Muvluv adaptation either so no sequel to Akane Maniax.
Why don't they just use drone swarms against the BETA?
>>282606359Why didn't they use nukes, bioweapons, and chemical warfare? Nukes would have been an easy KO for swarms and anything outside the planet. How hard would it have been to engineer a virus to make the BETA sick? Then there is bleach bombing BETA and making them choke on the fluids in their lungs.
>>282606359There is no fuel tank to destroy in BETA, so FPV drones are pretty much useless since they can't carry enough explosives. And the bigger ones should be an easy target for Laser class.
>>282606459Why didn't they use IEDs and mines? They should use more booby traps and punji pits.
>>282604447You posted her.
>>282606454Why use nukes when they could use G-Bombs? The BETA are so diverse that any virus developed probably wouldn't affect more than a couple species, to say nothing on how difficult it would be to develop a virus for completely alien organisms in the first place. IIRC humanity didn't even have live BETA samples to test on prior to when Takeru warns Yuuko of the upcoming BETA attack. It's unclear if the BETA even breathe considering they live on the moon/Mars just fine, though a chemical weapon that kills through some other mechanism could work.
Who's playing Girl's Garden?
>>282606113Bought by people who have never made an anime or video game before but were pretty sure it couldn't be that hard. >>282606308Also this. They missed the boat. Already had a ticket and everything, but tripped as it was leaving.Don't watch Akane Maniax. It's pure torture.
>>282604447Easily. >>282606567I already forgot about that, and am going to do so again in by the end of the day.Might play the Tactics game, I guess.
>>282606580>Don't watch Akane Maniax. It's pure torture.Pure torture only in the sense that you can see a good Extra Anime in there that would never get made. The Akane Maniax OVA is the best Muv Luv anime ever made, and that hurts.https://youtu.be/XMoLHyURZzk
>>282606645That's exactly what I mean, yes.
>>282606459FPV drones can carry enough explosive device to kill up to Grappler-class just fine.Now imagine sci-fi anime AI controlled kamikaze drone swarms.
>>282606566>The BETA are so diverse that any virus developed probably wouldn't affect more than a couple species, to say nothing on how difficult it would be to develop a virus for completely alien organisms in the first place.Well I guess pharmaceutical companies will be working overtime making their BETA viruses won't they?
>>282607300>Girl gets hit by car>Intergalactic horde of invaders seeks to conquer the universe and the timeline is permanently damaged This is all her fault.
>>282606197I find it funny that so many popular VN series have the writers poorly hidden White woman fetish included in them.
>>282604447we love childhood friends here
>>282607913She should've kept being a bro character.
>>282607851Certain ones.
>>282607965
>>282604447Amane!>>282606567That's pretty hard for most EN casuals. Hopefully avex money lets it get global.>>282606600>Tactics My condolences.
>>282607965nah I love the sudden switchthe hints they left were pretty good too
>>282607774Aside from BETA attacks, living in this world seems comfy.
>>282606567First I have heard of this. The cool down is too long and I forget things.
>>282608103Girl's Garden is Gacha number 5. But in this one, you can fuck the girls as it's r18. Also there's no BETA, and the TSFs are known as Maze Guardians or something. It's a desperate throw of the dice.
Integrate never ever...
>>282606567I became aware of that game through Japanese twitter going nuts over this creature.
>>282608264Maybe that's for the best.
>>282608138I see it now on sadpanda.
>>282606113They should make a good Extra, Unlimited Alternative and Altered Fable anime 15 years ago and come out with the Integrate sequel in 2017.
>>282608299Stella's been overthrown as the boob queen of Muv Luv, it seems.
>>282608311I want fun Muvluv. I miss romcoms from the 2000's.
>>282606514because they are subterranean and they only surface to do battle and collect the remains?
Cute German pet.
>>282604447This one
>MLA threadHaha...
>>282608700Remember when Muv Luv was beloved on /a/?
>>282608753I wasn’t there for it and it makes me sad.
>>282608019>My condolences.What happened? You can just say it, I wasn’t expecting much anyway.
>>282608402
>>282608753Animating TE instead of MLA during its peak (and not officially translating both MLA and TE) was a big mistake.
>>282608824Tactics has finally released to JP backers, and what from I hear it's perfectly serviceable as far as the gameplay elements go.https://www.youtube.com/live/S60EhGC-MIY?si=yIpcL5_SMm8RUiUF
>>282608874Well that sounds alright. What, is it not getting an English release?
>>282606197>>282607743
>>282608945It is, but only because they're using AI to translate it.
The one thing I do like about the anime is the OST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9w9K2SXiM
>>282609082I forgot about that too. Fuck. Is it at least AI-assisted and not just shoving it in through DeepL and shipping it as-is?
>>282608824It's a kusoge. Production values are non-existent, the writing is being done by the alternative anime guy, and the gameplay itself is substandard.>>282608874There are hundreds of better SRPGs.
>>282606566Idk about this DNA stuff, but would it’ve been possible to tell they’re silicon-based lifeforms if they had a sample?
>>282609154All the pilot illustrations in Tactics are being done with AI. They only got 60% of the crowdfunding, so they're using AI to cut corners where possible.
>>282608138Maze Guarders are a little different from TSFs design wise and purpose wise. They're meant for mining. >>282608299デカい
>>282609209>the writing is being done by the alternative anime guy, Holy shit.>>282609239>All the pilot illustrations in Tactics are being done with AI.Holy FUCKING shit. How does this franchise keep getting worse? What new low is there to reach?
>>282609212Even 2000's tech would have been able to tell that. Coming up with viruses, mRNA altering drugs, and gene edited self destruction would have been easy. They have been playing with bioweapons since early civilization and hurling dead corpses into cities. Finding out what makes a BETA tick would be no different. If cops can find out a murderer from 40 years ago from a single hair and drop of blood, then they can destroy BETAs.
>>282609353>How does this franchise keep getting worse? What new low is there to reach?May I introduce you to the Muv Luv Metaverse?
>>282609359>virus to kill automated auto-evolving silicon based biomachines made from literal slop Immortality soon.
>>282609212The BETA are carbon-based, it's their creators who are silicon-based.
>>282609450You may not, I already knew. Using AI-generated art is worse.
>>282609543>>282609513Oh yeah I forgot. It's a reason why they don't acknowledge humans as a lifeform.
Muvluv gives me Starship Troopers vibes.
>>282609845Edge of Tomorrow gives me Muv Luv vibes
>>282606113Sometimes a story should just end.
>>282610370It did.
>>282606566What about nanomachines that start replicating themselves until the host dies like in Deus Ex
>>282610475I don't think they have the proper tech for that sort of thing. Their computers are a lot bulkier than ours. The Pleiades targeting system, which is described as comparable to the size of a Game Boy, was some of the UN military's most advanced tech when it came to compact computers, and that's way bigger than nanomachines. I think the idea's sound, but they just don't have the tech in place to do that sort of thing.
>>282610222Honestly, this is the best adaptation of Muv-Luv that there currently is.
Just started a replay for some Japanese practice>No matter what, when Takeru-chan decides to hit, he hits. That's probably why I'm so dumb. I feel like my memory has been getting worse lately too.There's no way... right? Can you even call that foreshadowing? I don't know the production schedule details but Alternative was a whole 3 years later.
>>282611262I'm pretty sure it was all one big game at first, but there were time constraints and they had to release ML and MLA separately
>>282611262They would've planned a lot of the Betaverse stuff when writing Unlimited
Sumika...! No...!
>>282611394>>282611406This is the first HOUR of Extra. The part it might be alluding to is what, 70 hours out? That's ridiculous.
>>282611262I don’t see why not. There is a fuckton of foreshadowing throughout Extra, both direct and allusions.
Sion is the best OPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRWrjMWYSxM
Why do fortified suits have these sex lines?
>>282611834I like this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTRuckgR4Ig
No prequel OVA?
>>282609353Girls Garden is the only thing that gives me hopium. Ironically its success spells the death of kouki's dreams.
>>282612663Your two statements contradict each other.
>>282612800They don't if you realize kouki's like a dog that needed to be put down. Tactics is the level of quality you can expect for the rest of his projects. He has no vision and no respect for Extra/Unlimited. Girls Garden is the first big muvluv game we've had in decades with a light tone.
>>282612522Anon, I'm not sure if you realize this but that was cancelled.
>>282613078>He has no vision and no respect for Extra/Unlimited, the stories that he made with his own vision. Okay.
>>282613556Have you seen the slop he's churned out since, including Alternative itself? No vision for the future, and no respect for the past.
>>282613606>including Alternative itself?Oh, you just hate Muv Luv. Alright, I understand. No wonder you like Girls Garden.
>>282613646Did you remember Alternative was meant to be the Sumika route for Unlimited before it got stuffed full of filler and Sumika was forgotten?
>>282613723I remember how Alternative was meant to be the Sumika route that got too big and ended up being it's own game instead, yes. That doesn't make it slop. No actual fan of this series would ever say that.
Yui, Cryska, Inia and Irisdina are my wives. As are Beatrix, Stella and Matika.
>>282611969Japanese don't like to breed outside their own race.
>>282604447My wife
Did East Germany collapse yet?
>>282612014Worst girl.
>>282613879Has a foreigner girl won in any VN ever?
>>282614109Check yourself.
>>282614112My King claimed a ginger Japanese boy for herself in the secret Avalon ending.
>>282614112Arc in Tsukihime?
>>282614147You heard me.
>>282613764Its own game that completely forgot who the supposed main heroine was, sidelining her in favor of Meiya, leading to a short term success but in the long term it led to a series of disastrous decisions ever since that ultimately led to kouki selling off everything.
>>282614147Brocons and siscons are disgusting anon.
>>282614109Yui is perfect.
>>282614045>Even the commies are a bigger threat than humanity ending aliens called BETANobody likes communists
>>282614203
>>282614184>but in the long term it led to a series of disastrous decisions ever since that ultimately led to kouki selling off everything.You're just saying whatever you want now.
>>282614167I heard you being wrong, yes. Stop.
>>282614217Perfection.
>>282614231You handle the truth about as well as her classmates handled those Betas.
>>282614235Imouto must be doted on
>>282612014To boost the morale of male pilots
>>282614305Wife, not imotou.
>>282614429Motorboat on sight
>>282614476Great threesome material.
>>282614512Big Swede and little Nip
>>282606197>>282609005Only in anime. In real life it sucks and produces most eliot roger self loathing incel type if you're born a male.
>>282614539Relatively. They are both wonderfully busty.
>>282604447I do Luv Chizuru
>>282614263Now you're just being crude. As should be expected, I guess. >>282614305>maid outfit makes her blush the mostCute.
>>282614572Pluto vs Venus
>>282614683Soul.
So uh is Rumbling Hearts canon to Muv Luv? Is it important
Für Deutschland, kamerad!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAxadstFhzo
>>282614839Both of them are for sneaking over the wall and taking them home in the west.
>>282606113they fell for the trap of all ages and ended up in the bad timeline. in the good timeline they hired a different artist for total eclipse and it came out on pc with sex scenes and routes for yui, stella, and cui.
>>282614884Confused Yui a cute.
>>282614208The MiG-21 is pure sex though
>>282614744Yes, it carries over characters and setting over to Muvluv. They even tease BETA in some of the shorts and AyuMayu Theater.
>>282614744Yes it is.
Christmas is around the corner
>>282615771One more birthday before Cryska's.
>>282615771>>282614884I've read the original trilogy a while ago, I'm sad Schwartzmarken is still untranslated but are Total Eclipse and/or TDA worth reading?
>>282616896TDA is great. It doesn't take off immediately, just like MLA, but it's very much worth it. Episode 3 really reminded me of some of the best moments of Alternative.Total Eclipse was a letdown. It's not exactly bad, but it feels unfinished (I'm pretty confident their intention was for it to have multiple routes), Yuuya is a meh protag and, worst of all, TE lacks the tense mood both MLA and TDA have.
>>282606113Because it was never anything more than a hentai dating sim about girls getting raped by penis aliens, yet /m/ somehow convinced themselves it was the next Star Wars because it had some extremely generic robot designs in-between the sex scenes. And then took the power level wanking of their Penis Aliens (who are in truth rather pathetic, like on the level of Verhoeven Starship Troopers Bugs) to levels that would make 40K fans blush.The split second they tried to sell it outside that small brain-damaged group of image board posters it crashed and burned, because without the porn it is merely the most boring and generic alien invasion story possible.Say what you will about Fate originally having sex scenes, at least "Battle Royale with Mythological figures" is a unique concept you can actually do something with after you remove the dating sim.
>>282614801those boobs are egregious. right wins
Yui Takamura is the most perfect muv-luv girl closely followed by Irisdina
>dating sim in which the girls get raped by monstersCuck game
Judge my taste based on the Muvs that I would Luv
>>282618602Very commendable
>>282618602>sloppa ChizuruTerrible
>>282619205Yuimouto
>>282619037this one.
>>282604447You already know
A rare decent Muv-Luv thread in /a/ post Alternative anime? Something's off.
>>282614221Anon, ever since what we've had are Total Eclipse, Schwarzesmarken, and fucking Immortals to go with the MLA "anime". Nothing but messes.
DO WHAT I WANTDO WHAT I NEEEEEEEDThat was it, carry on.
>>282619518https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFMvXB2Uo_g
>>282619650W-what's she planning to do?
>>282619663
>>282604447The anal slut.
>>282608103You shouldn't feel bad, unlike most Muv-Luv titles they were quick about it. >First teased in July>Released in September That's how you know anchor has nothing to do with it and you can thank avex for everything
>>282618602chizuru best girlmarimo acceptable>>282619289gut
>>282619650What do you think Stella is like in bed, what''s her favourite sex position, do you think she'd be a sub or a dom?>>282620120Which one? There's quite a few>>282618900I want to melt into the Polish seaweed and get lost in her hair
>>282620530Cowgirl and femdom but encourages boldness
>>282620442Marimo is too precious. I want to protect her smile.
Schwarzesmarken english translation when?
>>282621050Already here with the power of MTL (It's shit)
>>282620590Cowgirl and femdom are the best positions.
Would protect
>mfw already played GreyGoo>no need to ask more questions
>>282604447My turn to trigger your PTSD MuvLuv friends.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5JICa_ZxBk
>>282622866It's been ten years since I read it, still getting goosebumps from this.
Obviously. Or Yuuhi.
>>282622888Yeah, those who worked on the sound design did a really good job.
>>282623892
>>282621771
>>282623975I bet they are super comfy. Imagine them crushing you in the middle of the night when Stella rolls over in bed.
>>282611262I would assume they had most of the story done by the time they started actually creating the game.Most of the effort afterwards was art, composition and editing stuff.Also, Sumika best MabuRabu
I'm reminded that I always wonder what kind of twist Exogularity would have.
>>282624287The deepest and softest valley
>>282625245I liked the new suit designs
>>282619323Misae's lucky
>>282625272Life-like texture!
>>282625485They should've hired Ban. His designs look good and he's also a muvluvfag so he would've tried hard to make them all beautiful.
>>282625495I love girls suiting up
>>282604447I seem to recall that many years ago, Kouki teased that Stella was hiding some super dark secret and her seiyuu was allegedly shocked when she learned about it. Did anything ever come off of that? Or was it quietly buried in the same ditch as the Yuimoto route? (Still mad btw.)
Is Sumika the original CF betrayal?
>>282608013Need a flatty threeway with Mikoto and Tarisa
>>282626008I think there were some slight hints in the VN too, but I don't think they ever told anything else about it. Maybe some of it made it into Ellen's background.
>>282626810>Sit between Meiya and Yuuhi
>>282625553They were unironically too cheap to afford him
>>282623104least insecure aznmasculinity tard
>>282619650Yuuya should've impregnated her
>>282627028But she looks just like his mom
>>282627093All the more reason
>>282626008>Stella was hiding some super dark secretHer boobs are fake
>>282623104tbf Yuuya was pretty insecure about his heritage for most of TE. Not really in the >>282626927 way but still.
>>282627112freak
Rebellion to weebs is obedience to God
>>282617165this is some strong fate copium. i'll take some of it too.
>>282604447>>282604712Perfect combo.
>>282628926
>>282626176So many great combinations that you could do in threeways with Muv Luv girls. Brown Hartmann and Stella being one of them among many others
>>282629693Her highbeams are on
>>282630126Southern incest baby
>>282630126>daki with a pregnancy testThis should be more common
Girls Garden seems to be gaining momentum. Hope the promo manga will be a fun read. I'm becoming cautiously optimistic about it.Once it's November I think we'll have a clearer picture of its future.
>>282630996That's a mub rub?!
>>282633048
>>282632305She is, that's Amane!
>>282628902Sorry bruv it's true. There was enough of a concept underneath the eroge in the original Fate that people who have never heard the word "Visual Novel" became fans of the de-sexed versions and adaptions, and it sprung off into a huge multimedia franchise long before it got subsumed into Gacha coomer hell. There is conversely nothing to Muv-Luv without the eroge. It does nothing a billion other alien invasion stories haven't already done better. Even "The Aliens look like sexual organs and rape you" is already done by, well, Alien. It doesn't work outside the now dead niche of PC dating sim eroge's which existed in the late 90's-early 00's.
>>282626008They were going with the direction that argus & co are spies, and they forgot about that plot point in the 2nd half of the VN. We will never find out
>>282634804>>282617165I love you guys that come up with these critiques that just show you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
>>282611262Like the other anon said, Alternative was originally going to be packaged with Extra and Unlimited before getting released separately. Extra has a bunch of moments that's clearly alluding to Alternative Takeru being there doing his business.
>>282626008Yui "route" is just a story that takes place after the anime which is actually in the Unlimited route.
>>282634864It's really telling when retards like >>282634804 claim that Muv-Luv and FSN are "Dating sim eroge"
>>282606113They should have made a straight adaptation of Extra than do an adaptation of Unlimited with 0 explanation.
NIGHT OF FIRE
>>282635994Yeah, absolutely. Just play it straight. If done well enough it'd work great.Alternatively, heh, they could do something like Danganronpa 3. Air Extra and Unlimited simultaneously, with the episodes paired up appropriately. Then have them both lead into Alternative.
>>282635919Is Chizuru a dom or a sub, what about the others? Including Marimo and Yuuko.
>>282635919The only H-scene I fapped to was her shower sex scene.
The future of Muv Luv is AI.
>>282614744KGNE, Akane Maniax, Muvluv and Alternative all happen at the same time. Akane Maniax even teases Muluv anime with the opening to the game being the ending for the OVA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBuxGMqHRu0
>>282635994>>282636053Sounds like a great idea in 2005!
https://files.catbox.moe/vbhyit.mp4
>>282636037Wasn't there some Initial D parodies in the series?
>>282636037>his scene during the last attack in alternative
>>282636743By 'some' you mean casting one of the main characters, having him play a parody of himself in an entire scene that was drawn based on the Intial D manga?
>>282636607That was uncalled for.
>>282636875That's right!
>>282636451wow fansubs were really dogshitthis is worse than MTL
>>282636949That whole scene was pure gold.
>>282636960It was 18 years ago. It was all that was out there and probably still is.
>Commies yet again considered worse than BETA
>>282637289Too true
>>282636931But you didn't say it was wrong.
>>282638409four eyed dork
>>282637082Chizuru=Switch leaning subMeiya=DomSumika=Playful domAyamine Kei=SwitchMarimo=SubYuuk=DomMikoto=Playful sub
>>282638409Would.
I ran an analysis through chatgpt on who'd be my ideal Muv Luv match and it said Yuuko would be my number one partner. Pretty based if I say so myself.
>>282639000She just walks around school like this.
>>282639000Her sister Mitsuko is hotter.
>>282606359this old image
>>282606540gorgeous
>>282639938Frodoposting was a staple of old Muv Luv.
2001 was not their lucky year was it?
>>282640353Did KimiNozo actually show 9/11?
>>282640368The OVA did. In a short shot. By then it had already passed and people could talk about it again.
Goodnight anon, hope you all wake up in the correct timeline.
>>282638721>tfw Meiya will never demand cunnilingus from you after coming home from a long day managing the Mitsurugi business empire
>>282640853As long as she's in a business suit.
meiya is clearly submissive and I have to question whether anyone who thinks otherwise even played the games
>>282639938>>282639963Have another old image.
>>282641095She is pretty submissive during sex. But on the other hand, she did get essentially a license to rape him with her sister.
>>282641192Have the post-Alt Anime version.
>>282641270That's not the real version which only had "read the VN" at the bottom
>>282641429I have that one.
>>282641487beautifulthat's what I want and that's what I need
>>282641505
>>282606567I'm playing the OPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0VA0np-k6E
>>282606113It's a VN, VNs can only really take off if properly adapted. Had the additional hurdle of being an eroge and actually directly incorporating something sexual into the plot, and not in a way that's easily cut out or written around like say, Fate. Finally, in order for an adaptation of Muv Luv to be good it would need to start by adapting Extra and Unlimited. Extra is a different genre entirely and Unlimited is an incredibly slow burn with a deliberately unsatisfying conclusion to setup Alternative. So, no one was willing to do a proper anime adaptation and did a perfunctory one that skipped straight to Alternative and thus killed the setup necessary for Alternative to be good. Since they couldn't get an anime adaptation to launch the setting into the mainstream, they instead tried to extract as much money from its niche audience as possible, running it into the ground in the process.
>>282606514TDA01 opens with a horde of beta getting cucked by nuclear land mines
>>282634864>"Nuh uh! You!Keep huffing that copium.You will never be a successful franchise.
>>282635354No one called FSN a dating sim ESL-kun.
>>282641095She's submissive to Takeru.
>>282642253Even if you only meant to refer to Muv-Luv as a dating sim it's still retarded because it is not even close to being one. Anyone who calls random VNs "dating sims" has probably never read one.
>>282642956I look that challenges you to say something.
>>282643112>Kei sharing yakisobapan with ChizuruHeartwarming
Muv Luv thread? Sweet.
Hail to God Empress of Humanity!
>>282643136Irisdina and Beatrix are my angels.
So......Tarisa and valerio were traitors or something?
>>282643164What are the odds that the Siliconians are willing to do this peacefully? They recognize carbon-based life for what it is, go "oh shit, our bad, didn't even know this was a thing" and edit or turn off the BETA just like that.
>>282640873>"hmm maybe i should post my meiya">[Update]>"oh she's already here"i should draw her again...
>>282643902You drew Meiya in the Utena style? I really fucking love it as a lifelong fan of Utena.
>>282643855What other "OMG WHAT A TWIST!" are there?Maybe Siliconians are long dead? Maybe there is someone else and they can't control the BETA?Maybe the FTL catapult malfunctions and the mission goes completely off from the very first second and they never get to the Siliconians?
>>282643972I mean, it probably wouldn't be that simple. Kasumi and Co. have to do shit to convince them that they're alive, presumably harrowing shit. End it with some big realization and "oh god, what have we done!?" from the Siliconians, that could be fun. I think them being long dead is more likely, though. That seems more in-line with Muv Luv. Maybe have an adventure among the ruins of their civilization looking for a big red 'off' switch. The worst option would be to have the Siliconians just be hostile. They're as unwilling to accept carbon-based life as their creations, it's just a big fight. That'd be fucking boring. It's an alien planet and journey into the unknown either way, though. Anything could happen.
Bros, we all know Integrate and Resonative are not happening. Why even think about it.
>>282643972There is a story set in the far distant future of Muv Luv, Kaseki no Uta. Even as recently as 2020 Kouki said this:>Yoshimune: “Kaseki no Uta” is a story that takes place far in the future of the Age works, but I think the fact that this was the first work we planned had a big impact on the direction of Age. In other words, although it turned out to be a mirage, we were able to use our maiden work to determine the endpoint of what we would create in the future.It got a FanTL earlier this year, and there were a few interesting details in there. Like 00 Units being mass produced as basically sex slaves/playthings for the fantastically wealthy, and humanity spreading across the stars only to tear itself apart in an event called the 'Judgement of Babylon', which brings to mind another event called Babylon. Even after defeating the BETA, humanity still finds a way to fuck themselves over.
Its almost poetic how one of the greatest VNs ever made had its legacy butchered in the most pathetic way
>>282644374Kouki was no Nasu. He didn't know how to leverage his VN to sucess, merely chased a rabbit that he could never catch to the ruin of everything he'd made. Now, the only thing Muv Luv is known for is as the inspiration for the superior Attack on Titan.
>>282644391>to the ruin of everything he'd madeI know you're baiting, but I've never understood this logic. The trilogy was finished. It's good, it's done, it's over. The extended universe after it didn't go great, but so what? That doesn't affect the trilogy at all.
>>282644417It's not bait. âge, the VN studio Kouki headed made many VNs before Muv Luv. Rasen Kairou, Kimi ga Itas Kisetsu, Kimi ga Nozumu Eien. Then after Muv Luv's success all that was thrown out the window. âge pivoted to all Muv Luv, all the time, and that just killed the studio. âge could be like Nitro+ if they hadn't put all their eggs into the Muv Luv basket.
>Integrate: Somehow Takeru has returned
>>282604447Pump and dump Stella
>>282644471Considering how dead the modern VN indsutry is i think it wouldnt have made that much of a difference long term, but thats just me.
>>282644677That may be true, but I feel that Muv Luv's success ultimately proved detrimental to âge as a studio. Elfen Blaze never happened, and the unique storytelling âge were known for was lost in endlessly chasing Alternative's success.
the other muv-luv spinoffs didn't have other heroine routes hence their collective failuresthe protagonist is always penciled in with firstgirlitis at least in the first game the first girl is literally the worst girl (twizzlers) and the best girl is shining light friendzoned
>>282645149sad she has the worst route
>>282644142 HFK
>>282645260 It's okay if you distance yourself from the MC and do not feel cucked by her ex
>>282646260Kasumi is the lewdest of the mubrubs.
>>282630126We were fucking robbed and I cannot stop seething about it.
>>282647829I'd prefer Latrova route instead.
>>282642008They don't need to be properly adapted, Kiminozo was mangled and that was a mega hit. You're still following kouki's lies.
>>282648145idk about mega hit, but an adaptation like that would have been perfect for Extra and Kouki tried to beg for more and refused to let it be a similar length, which is what killed the Extra anime.
>>282648923Kiminozo was huge in the early 2000s, which was the heyday of eroge.
>>282648923They were going to give it that kind of adaptation all the way up until kouki bitched out because he demanded Alternative immediately and gave the producers cold feet. I guarantee you a dark isekai which started with Extra but ended with Unlimited would have been amazing in the mid 00s and encourage people to check out the VN.
Extra will never be animated until there is peace in the BETA timelines.
>>282648145Calling Kiminozo a mega hit is an exaggeration. It made waves for being an unexpectedly "adult" drama with sex and depression. But I don't think it was ever that much a financial success.
Kiminozo was a masterpiece praised by all. It was a giga hit and the voice of a generation. Kiminozo's message of not getting hit by cars resonates with us all.
How am I supposed to take this stuff serious when it's full of girls in skintight suits showing off how hard their nipples are
>>282650040I thought you would be more concerned about the walking scrotums or the red rocket monsters?>>282650017Yes Yui, you look weird.
>>282650040What, you're telling you couldn't maintain eye contact?
>>282650040Erect nipples in skintight bodysuits is a Muv-Luv stable
>>282604447I'll never understand why Japan has such contempt for it's greatest achievements. This anime and berserk 2016 are such absurd abominations. It's like if the pope had commissioned a blind retard to repaint the Sistine Chapel. How do they feel no shame? It's fine to make some shitty seasonal isekai bad but how do you shit all over some of your actual greatest works?
>>282636451>See the passing of the torch Man they wanted an Extra anime so bad back then.
>>282649947You could have said you were a zoomer with no idea of how popular it was back in the day in less words.
This one will forever be one my favorite doujins and I'm glad to own a physical copy in my bookshelf
>>282606113Failed management. See how Age was chumped by a con artist.
>>282650262It was so close too. The script was finalized, character designs were decided on, the only thing missing was the creator signing off and not making absurd demands. In hindsight you have to admire how he somehow managed to avoid getting bought out by Bamco despite helping Lantis out multiple times in the mid-00s. JAM Project isn't exactly cheap to get. Did you know that Asu e no Houkou was paid for by him taking out a huge loan? That's actually his song but lantis got to keep it all. The man will bite the hands he feeds that would have been happy to scratch his back. >>282650399That con artist's name? Yoshimune Kouki.
>>282650248>Muv-Luv>greatest workslol
>>282616995Is there an accurate translation somewhere? The only version I could find had tons of complaints like this. Plus I couldn't find the 4th part anywhere except steam.
>>282604447Any girl wearing those suits.Regardless of any preference I might have, such sight would override any semblance of intellect I still have.
>>282650508We're still talking about it 20 years later so yeah.
>>282650560>the 4th partlolTDA 04 got cancelled, now it's Resonative, a vaporware SRPG with the same team as Tactics.
>>282650911Oh alright, guess I'll give it a shot then. Does it at least have some conclusion or is it just an open ending like the original?
>>282617165This is pointlessly harsh but that's not false.It is basically an isekai except with a bleaker outcome. While generic the mecha are used in a more military way than number of "real robot" anime. Not mook but far from the unique prototype trope.>at least "Battle Royale with Mythological figures" is a unique concept you can actually do something with after you remove the dating sim.Meh, Fate stay Night get extra point for not being a total isekai, but the battle royal trope + fantasy characters is a much lazier setting than the muvluv invasion.
>>282650248Berserk 2016 was the last gasp of a series that never fully took off the ground. >This animeWhich anime?Because Muv-Luv had multiple flops before this. In and of itself the anime should've been DLA because every anime before it featured Theodore 'The Master'. It's amazing they felt MLA was worth 24 episodes in this day and age.
>>282650940It has some conclusion but you can tell a lot was left for a 4th part that will never be as the writer Wei Luxin got fired and kouki has admitted he doesn't like writing other's characters, so instead of properly concluding the stories of the cast we followed it would be a pivot back to familiar faces like Takeru. On top of what I already said, that's before they decided drop VNs and switch their existing projects to SRPGs that wouldn't even be written by kouki.Also pic related.
>>282606454>Why didn't they use nukesThey did and it only took one hive before it didn't do much, even radiation don't do much to BETA.And since BETA evolved anti-air laser it became harder to nuke them.>bioweaponsYeah right, because the ALIEN BIOWEAPON isn't going to be more sophisticated than anything human can make.The only reason mankind wasn't eradicated itself by a virus is that BETA don't recognize them as a sapient species.>chemical warfare? Same as above, human would destroy their ecosystem and kill themselves before they get rid of the BETA.
>>282651074Grim, wish I could be a fate fan, they are so lucky to have someone who cares about his creation.
Eternal reminder MLA's ending was ass
>>282651126TM fans had fuck all until recently unless you liked gachaslop, took them like 20 years to finally release the VNs oficially on the west
>>282651193Ok mr smartguy, how would you have ended it?
>>282610222>>282610974>Honestly, this is the best adaptation of Muv-Luv that there currently is.Edge of Tomorrow is better than its own source material. Not that it was difficult.What it (accidentally) did is go back to silver age sci-fi where the story is articulated around one twist and not try to be an entire setting.
>>282651245By not being an overly ambitious retardEnd it just before Kashgar, cash in, make a sequelDon't kill the whole cast in a retarded way on a suicide mission while takeru is stuck on his mobility scooter being treated like a toddlerI dont know i'm not a fucking writer i can't write an entire sequel out of my ass but that doesn't make MLA ending any less dogshit
>>282612014For reasons that require a PhD to understand.I would accept that in a situation as bleak as mankind is in, you need anything you can to make your main pilots feel like mythological heroes.
>>282651396>you see MLA's ending is bad because it's an actual ending and not a hook for more franchise sequel faggotryAbsolutely marveltarded
>>282651599alright man, so you're saying MLA's ending is perfect, that ending MLA before Kashgar would have made it a cashcrag, and that you didn't want to see more of that universe?Tell me what did you like about MLA's ending i'd love to talk about it i do like Muv Luv except that the ending is ass
>>282651433This image always confused me, the suits are supposed to have built-in diapers but in this image it looks like it exploded and circulated the piss throughout the suit. Imagine having to wear a piss drenched skintight combat suit while inside a cramped cockpit for extended periods of time, that's hot even for a piss non-enthusiast like myself
>>282651193>>282651245>>282651396Nta but tragedies are legit ending, a story is a narrative vehicle for a feeling you want to share (or a peculiar concept like alien not recognizing human as lifeform).Happy endings are easy and almost always appreciated conclusion.Tragic endings are more difficult to justify and make appreciable for spectators.
The problem with Alternative wasn't the end but the middle. So much wasted time with the third wheel group shoehorned in. That time could have been spent with the main group, kill off some of them in a battle so the ending isn't so overwhelming to the point of numbness. Spread out the suffering a bit.
>>282651942but do you consider MLA's ending a good or a tragic ending?
>>282652115good is subjective, it's definitely tragic.
Always been an Ayamine man, personally
>>282652101I did like the Valkyries though, i feel like their death were handled much better than the main cast Let's say you completely scraped the valkyries, you could have class rep die in place of Isumi, Ayamine in place of Hayase, have Mikoto die in the control room who gives a shit, and you get Tama Meiya and Sumika for the final mission
>>282604447Ellen
>this book was never scannedLost media
>>282652268It's a copeout ending, kills the entirety of the main cast in 30min tops, then have Takeru take the back to the future asspull and have him return to not even his original timeline but a fucking perfect world harem ass timeline where everyones is here! and Takeru gets to fuck Meiya and her sister. He just fucking leaves Kasumi to finish the war somehow against the gorillion BETAs coming their way lmao
>>282652460Isn't she the one who needs lots of tender love and affection?
>>282652566But Kasumi literally follows him into the new timeline, like she's the only one who remembers what happened
>>282652602>I give her lots of tender love and affection>She gives me lots of tender love and affectionEasy problem to fix.
>>282652653it's been a while but i don't remember them going together, it's a different Kasumi that just somehow remembers him because magicOr she jumped later in the BETAverse but arrives at the same time as him i don't know i hate time travel shit so much
>>282652808It's the same Kasumi, she thanks Sumika for letting her go there.
>>282652852Yes, like the Takeru in MLA was totally the original Takeru from Extra.
>>282652872I have no idea what you're trying to say here. You think Sumika pulled multiple different Kasumis from different timelines and mixed them together?
>>282652897Something to the tune of that since she's the god president of all mankind in MLA.
Wait, hold on... Zoom in, enhance! S U M I K AK A S U M I
>>282652754She's clingy as fuck
>>282652852just rewatched MLA ending on youtubeTakeru asks Kasumi to keep an eye on sensei and she agrees, do you really she would just fucking leave anyway right after that? She also says something like "i'll always remember you no matter what world you're in" so the reason why Kasumi remembers Takeru is really just magic
>>282652986That's fine with me. She would need an alien invasion to pry me away from hugging her constantly
>>282652653>>282652808>>282652852>>282652872>>282652897>>282652924It's not Kasumi herself, it's actually the particles of Alternative Takeru Sumika took and turned into Kasumi LOL talk about TSF
What are the weirdest things in the series?Time Paradoxes? Eldritch abominations from the beyond? Brain in a jar?
>>282653202Takeru doing a back to the future in the middle of MLA was fucking hystericalI will never forget that fucking SPLAT sumika i was in tears for a good 10min
>>282644471>âge could be like Nitro+dead?
>>282653325Even Sonico can't save them. The cool down is real.
>>282653202High Speed Transportation Theoryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOI2ZIR_2wQ
Surprised that Kimi ga Ita hasn't been translated yet
Hello, I hate beach volley. That is all.
>>282653612Maybe Kouki should do another kickstarterAnd for Schwarzesmarken too
>>282652602She needs to be in a better story.
>>282652986Hibiki is the cutest Muv-Luv MC so I don't blame her for wanting a piece of the Jap manlet.
>>282653681There was a fanTL for Schwrzesmarken that got hit by a C&D a few years back. Only a few images have come to light.
>>282654197Masaki's hotter. But JP readers are rare in these parts.
>>282654208You aren't allowed to translate vn's? Why? How does anime and manga do it?
>>282644417The problem is that it's not bait. >so whatAll the money made off of MLA was thrown away in an endless pit of fanfiction that you can only appreciate if you know the original trilogy instead of being able to stand on its own.
>>282654357Look up a thing called copyright you autistic pajeet.
>>282654482Anime and manga aren't copywrote?
>>282654505retard fantls are always illegal it only depends on how much the holder feels like C&Dinghow old are you
>>282654523Why are you sperging out? Seems like an honest question to me. Anime and manga are huge and it all gets translated no real problems. But one obscure vn that 1% of 1% even know about gets translated and they throw a fit? Just seems strange to me.
>>282654558Why can't you do any research?
>>282652460She was never gonna win the Hibikibowl. Not when she's incapable of being open and honest with anyone due to her own PTSD and her fears about being uncovered as not being who she claims to be. Even when she tries to be open and honest with him in a moment she doesn't come clean. She talks about her father as though he was a local mayor. Even when she tries to admit she’s French, she does so in such a way that she can immediately pass it off as a joke. She's wearing a mask named Ellen Aice, and has worn it for so long it's hard to tell how much is the mask, and how much of it is the actual her underneath. In that respect she was doomed to lose from the very beginning when she couldn't actually connect to Hibiki in the way she so desperately wanted to, not without dismantling the mask she’s spent so long trying to become and having to admit to her own weakness and vulnerability as Josette D’Ambercourt.I think about her way too much.
>>282654588Well put anon.>I think about her way too much.I also find it kind of cool how popular she seems to be among people who have played TDA
The comments on this probably AI short are extremely telling.https://youtube.com/shorts/j5Fqv8SFO0I?si=WdOvTG96SsPljlOU
I don't like the copout ending where after all the desperation and losses they just beat out all the Beta on Earth and then the entire Solar System and years later they are fully geared enough to take on Alpha Centauri where the Beta creators are
>>282651226I wonder what type of date Stella would enjoy. I see her liking something active maybe going hiking or picnicking together in a scenic forest.Then she mounts you and has her way with you out in the woods after you've both shared an onsen/outdoor bath together.
>>282654876The funniest part is that mass g-bombing works on every planet that isn't Earth which makes TDA even less canon
>>282654969Every planet that isn't Earth is also very very dead.
>>282650040You get used to it.
>>282654920Picnic definitely
>>282655272Has nothing to do with the purported effects of g-bombing that only show up in a fanfic
I'm reminded of this sceneAnd pain
>>282656208I'll never be able to replay the games, once was enough. I'll be haunted for the rest of my life.
>>282656208
>>282656208I'm reminded every day.
Are the BETA edible? I mean if they are we can eat them. You know, hunt them down and eat them as food.
>>282656568I'm fucking seething at that price. 24 years and shitty ground beef is 6 dollars a pound. I'll never stop being mad we had it so good not even that long ago. I want to go back to being able to buy a huge bag of jr bacon cheeseburgers for a ten dollar bill.
I love bowl helmets
It's nice to see that even in its twilight, there's still some affection for Muv Luv. The series might be a dead duck, but at least its still fondly remembered.
>>282656568>That priceWhen was this made?
Scary
>>282657043She did some awful things
>>2826568842001. The date is there but really small.
>>282604447Pepperoni fucked her
>>282656870This is what got me into the Muvluv in the first place. Who would think this small anime would make me stay for the whole series. I was excited when Muvluv was announced. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAs4nuXyzwM
Iris is the superior little sister
>>282657382Choose.
>>282657043
>>282657508No competition
>>282657107Based for him. Remind me in which scene this was implied. It's been years since I last watched Total Eclipse.
Anyone have the pasta image on why to play the games
>>282657658Shower sex with Stella
>>282657658>implied I want explicit.
>>282657749Where?
>>282656692Don't worry, anon, it'll get more expensive with time.
This is a Marimo board
>>282658240>that bellyIs she preggo?
>>282658656I always thought that was her knee for some reason... my favourite marimo pic is ruined
>>282658958It's her stomach but she's pushing her body up so it's arching down. It's a normal stomach.
>>282659004I know but it doesn't translate that well, it looks like an orb or a ball to me
>>282658240Scrumptious Marimo.
>MarimoYou call her "Marimo" one more time and you are all getting an Article 15.
>>282658656By me
>>282659396Where are the hair vents?
>>282659558Sorry, seems to be a mistake. A BETA repairman is coming out to add hair vents shortly.
>>282657105>The date is there but really small.Turns out I'm stupid.
MLA is kind of overrated. It's good but there's a lot of dumb things in it.Every spinoff and whatever after is mediocre.
>>282659396How would Marimo react if I called her mom during sex?
>>282608138>you can fuck the girls as it's r18.Wait fucking really?
>>282660018Majority of women would stop right thereSmall percentage of women would love itMarimo might be the woman who hears it, gives a perplexed look, but keeps going out of politeness. I bet she would act weird if you kept calling her mommy.
>>282660153>I bet she would act weird if you kept calling her mommy.I hope you mean weird in a good way
>>282650500>>282610962>>282646260>>282647512>this is the future president of humanity
>>282659816Name one story that doesn't have dumb things in it.
>>282608138>Make a game with beautiful girls to goon to>Inadvertently making an extremely popular alien vs humanity franchise >Yes but about the girls?>More aliens, communists, more mechs >But the girls?>Hire the best eroge artists in the industry to enjoy their beautiful girls>They end up making more mechs and aliens >Dammit, my girls!>The masses get hold of the franchise>Need to cut out and tone down the lewds>20 years pass by>Get fed up and decide to make a flat out adult gacha to goon to>People want to know when the aliens will invade and the mechs will come to fight I feel like they really want to enjoy themselves but can't
>ITT retarded midwits defending the BETAs being a threatLMAOThey aren't even relevant except for that one jump scare edgelord scene.The whole thing is just a inter human conflict, this is why it died and good riddance.>war against these aliens?>nah, let's just show cuckshit instead
>>282660601dude... the thread's a few posts away from dead, you don't have to try to drum up discussion with bait anymore
>>282660338Rings of Power by Amazon Studios
>>282660366Girls Garden has mecha from the outset. You didn't even look at the key visual.
>>282660110Yes, fucking, really!
>>282660777Huh nice, I figured their parent company would still be going all in on all ages so that's a wild turn. Still no real interest in the game, looks like blue archive or something and it's gachaslop, but if it can fund Kouki's other shit im fine with it.
>>282660693I kneel
>>282660806>I figured their parent company would still be going all in on all ages>stillThat was always kouki's retarded decisionmaking, not Avex.>Still no real interest in the game, looks like blue archive or something and it's gachaslop, Heaven forbid people who actually enjoyed Muv-Luv and not the shit that was Alternative get to have something after a generation.>but if it can fund Kouki's other shit You don't even look at this thread, do you? Anchor's got nothing to do with it besides a few key staff. The money's going directly to avex and the gacha company.
I'm really happy muv luv threads can still hit bump limit. Our glories may be long in the past but no matter what you think of the franchise you have to admire it did something special to leave such a lasting impression on so many people. I've spent the last ten years trying to get my friend to read it. Still no success but I haven't given up, one day I'll find a way to spread the luv. See you all in the next thread soon.
>>282660918Try introducing them to the new gacha!
>>282660918Stella too strongStella endures
>>282660619Can't let these retards think this is a well written series.
>>282661262Sorry but I can't take the opinion of someone who owns several bad dragon dildos seriously.
>>282661286>cuck noises
>>282661349No one was asking for you to give us a play by play of your sexual activities. Keep that to yourself thanks.
>Thread goes on this long>Not one mention of the main star and hero Daikuji-sama will not forgive you for this.
>>282661758Hail the first Tsundere!
