>Webtoons surpassed 100 billion views in 2023, with over 70% of traffic now coming from outside South Korea.>The global webtoon market is estimated at $10.85 billion in 2025, projected to reach $45.30 billion by 2030.>Platforms like Naver Webtoon and Kakao Webtoon have significantly expanded their global user base.>Gen Z and millennials are increasingly favoring webtoons over manga due to their mobile-friendly format, color-rich art, and episodic storytelling.Is it finally time for manga artists to adhere to manhwa rules and formats?
>>282616542Yeah, sure colored longstrips are more efficient than black and white panels. This thing will die as soon as venture money runs out
A lot of that doesn't mean much without knowing how they got those numbers, and there's no point in trying to make everything fit some new format.
>>282616585>This thing will die as soon as venture money runs outthis
This is a lot of marketing baloney without talking about cold hard factual revenue numbers.
>>282616542>Platforms like Naver Webtoon and Kakao Webtoon have significantly expanded their global user base.Fuck them and fuck you!
This is just bots inflating the views.
>>282616746comick was the biggest shiller for manhwa doe
>>282616542>mainstream pop brings in more profits than heavy metal!great, but why should i care about people with no taste?
Gooks have been REALLY uppity after the Comick news
>>282616839Well, their war with pirate sites indicates the growth has stopped, and they need every trick to pump the numbers
>>282616742The "mobile-friendly format, color-rich art, and episodic storytelling" is. They probably had people who didn't prefer manga check reasons why, phrasing the reasons exactly like that. There's a lot that can be misleading without actual numbers or how it was asked.
>>282616839Modern People really love to cope when they make mistake instead of apologizing or just ignore the whole thing and modern Koreans are some of the worst people that I have ever seen
grim
>>282616900>operated in China in collaboration with Tencent, will terminate its service Not surprising since the chinese themselves are also doing their own stuff. They'll either be reading manga or their own stuff, zero point for them to care about korean ones.
korean webtoons are a stagnant & dying media, but they're doing their best to take japanese scanlation down with them
Why would anyone invest in Korea in anything at this point? The country's demographic collapse is going to happen within your lifetime. The nation is fucked.
>>282616994That's on the manga streaming sites for including them.And also on some scanlation groups for uploading exclusively to like 1 or two sites, instead of the old school way of having their own sites with DDLs and then have manga sites mirroring.
>>282616900lmao>churn out literal 3dasset slop by the fucking thousands>suprsed pikachu face when sales dropHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>282616993what the fuck is that image
>>282617155
Someone post the copypasted castle.
>>282616542how many of those views were bots?
>Platforms like Naver Webtoon and Kakao Webtoon have significantly expanded their global user base.>>Korean webtoon companies, which entered overseas markets seeing growth potential, are closing their businesses one after another due to lower-than-expected revenues. At the same time, in markets such as Europe, where print culture still dominates, Korean webtoon companies are struggling to gain traction.LMAO indeed
What are the chances some idiot is just using generative AI at this point to make isekaishit and webtoonshit?
>>282616542yes please go take all the western normalfags see kpopdemon hunters and solo leveling so that they leave japanese media alone
>>282616900>>282616911>>282616937OP massacred beyond recognition
>>282617232subpar artists chasing a trend long predates AI although their content may be indistinguishable
>>282617210No bot here sir, please watch solo leveling sir
Stating the obvious fact that webtoons are universal garbage with no humanity or soul in them. >>282617254Just look at this fucking shit man.
>>282617258why are they so pathetic
who fucking caresthere are drooling retards in the world who still watch the Simpsons in season 432 for some absolutely incomprehensible godawful reasona chart doesn't fucking mean any of that garbage is good or worth talking aboutgo to fucking >>>/biz/ if bar graphs are all you care about
>>282616993>>282617155Oh, we're gonna play this game again? Ok.
>>282617254Literally the arr rook the same.
>>282617254What is this gookshit and their weird obsession with dark color?
>>282616542>Gen Z and millennials are increasingly favoring webtoons over mangano we aren't
>>282617258>misery porn>none of the good stuff>pacing is crapReminds me of that wukong game. Endlessly shilled, but just not entertaining.
>>282616542>>282616900>>282616911Mario has lied to me again? Say it ain't so!
>>282616542>Normies like slopImagine my shock
Why are the mods leaving this shit here without cleaning it up
>>282618368Because /a/ has been compromised for years. The leaks from the hacks already revealed all the stuff people have been suspecting for a long time. 4chan mods do not have the community's interests.
>>282618368mods and jannies love anti-japan threads
>>282618405I'm the OP. I give permission to mods to remove my thread. I'm sorry!
>>282616837ahem
why are gooks so vindictive though?websites can stay afloat for decades by pirating manga but as soon as they dare to touch manhwa their days are numbered
>>282618415Bump. Mod-san, if you're reading this, please delete this thread of mine!
And I'm sorry. Please don't ban me :(
>>282616542Someone is going to pop a blood vessel at this.
>episodic storytellingWhat does that mean? There's tons of episodic manga out there.
>>282618853My condolence for you, OP>>282616911
>>282616911Based Korean exposing shady webtoon marketing ploy
>>282616900I understand why japs invested into premium anime during the bubble but I just don't get why koreans do this. This will fall as house of card and they will stay with Solo Leveling as their Evangelion
>>282616542>Breaking News! Weird Fag Holds Banner For Niche Korean Entertainment! More At 11!No one asked, no one cares. You could make the assertion that you enjoy such material, and you'd be relatively fine. But now you're making claims that can be easily disproven by looking literally anywhere anime and manga re discussed. No one's scared of losing profits. No one's murmuring in hushed tones about any supposed rising Korean monolith. Shit, name me ONE manhwa outside of Solo Leveling or Tower of God that a wider audience gives a shit about. Two shonen series and a gorillion romance slop series no one watches does NOT an industry make. Shit, I've seen more jabber about one-off novelty shows like Mahoako around the anime community (such as it is) than I have EVER seen about Solo Leveling- and Mahoako stopped airing early last year. If manhwa and webtoons want more eyes on them as media, then they'll have to do better than "I Am The Strongest Ever No Weaknesses Fox Only No Items Final Destination" as a premise.>Webtoons surpassed 100 billion views in 2023, with over 70% of traffic now coming from outside South Korea.Divide that by 365 days and you get ~274M pageviews daily. Assuming an average manhwa length of ~200 pages, that comes to around 1.3M readers, with approximately 910k of them being foreign readers as opposed to 390k domestic. These numbers might be impressive across ONE platform. But across multiple? Not so much. And none of these numbers equates to the $10.85Bn figure you've spat out, no source. The only way it makes sense is if you convert the dollars to won- which then translates from 10,850,000,00 won to $7,696,836.52. That's less than some K-pop groups make, even excluding domestic Korean sales. If your whole industry of writing wish fulfillment stories makes less money in the entire Southeast Asian region than a low-level restaurant owner with three joints in the Midwest, something's off.
>>282616900>>282616911The webtoon format can't fall into obscurity soon enough. I gave it a whirl with some of the more popular titles and the flaws of webtoon storytelling aside the very format is flawed. The panel structure that's optimized for endless scrolling, always scrolling, always moving on. There's no natural resting point for the story, no point to let the eye rest and take it all in. It's always structured to move on to the next thing. No clever paneling, since it's always about moving down, down, down, always keeping you in the flow. Reading Solo Leveling made my skin crawl after a while in how it's designed to be utter fast food. The artist was good, but it felt even if he wanted to, the endless scroll format wouldn't let him do actually cool stuff with paneling and composition. It feels more restrictive than, a (two) page based structure. It's like the webtoon format mimics the superficial nature of stories told through it. The sooner this bubble bursts, the better.
>>282617254>solo necromancy lmao
>>282616900>>282616911>>282616937Geez why are you delete my posts janny? How are these posts offtopic when the OP is literally offtopic shitposting?
>All the posts exposed OP is a gook cocksucker with his fake chart got deletedLMAO
OP here. I think someone cooked here.
They need to make buying Japanese manga easy for foreigners
>>282622097this. people are busing saying random shit and trash talking op, when they're literally ignoring this major point
>>282616542yes the general public consumes mass produced media aimed at the minimum common denominator, this is not new.
>>282618256You know it's funny how these posts exposing them always get deleted without a miss, and Id bet the poster gets banned too. I fucking hate the gook mod
>>282616542>>282622032>>282622097>>282622158>>282622207No need to necrobump your thread this much, OP. >random shit it's true though and you can't prove me wrong. You're the one who blabbering random shit about your head canon here OP>Kakao Entertainment’s webtoon platform Podo Comics, operated in China in collaboration with Tencent, will terminate its service on July 1. The company entered the Chinese market, the world’s second-largest content market, in 2021. It is ending its operations after four years. Kakao Entertainment also ceased its webtoon services in Indonesia and Taiwan last year. Another Kakao Group company, Kakao Piccoma, liquidated its European subsidiary last year.>NHN has also decided to terminate its webtoon service Pocket Comics in English-speaking countries and France in October this year. Riding on the global growth of the webtoon market, NHN had expanded its services to Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, and Germany, but has wrapped up all these operations since last year. NHN plans to operate its Korean webtoon platform Comico only until October this year and focus on its business in Japan, the largest comic market.
>80% of Korean WNs are haremBased.
>>282616542>>282622032>>282622097>>282622158>>282622207>Korean webtoon companies, which entered overseas markets seeing growth potential, are closing their businesses one after another due to lower-than-expected revenues. At the same time, in markets such as Europe, where print culture still dominates, Korean webtoon companies are struggling to gain traction.>To make matters worse, the growth of the domestic webtoon market is also slowing down. According to the “2024 Webtoon Industry Survey” report by the Korea Creative Content Agency, the total sales of the domestic webtoon industry in 2023 recorded 2.189 trillion won. Although it exceeded 2 trillion won for the first time since records began, the industry is more concerned that the market will shrink from its peak in 2023, rather than being optimistic. In fact, the growth rate of the domestic webtoon market in 2023 (19.7%) has significantly decreased compared to 2021 (48.6%) and 2020 (64.7%). The number of works registered on domestic webtoon platforms as of last year also decreased by 6.7% to 18,792 from the previous year (20,141).
>>282616542 (OP)>>282622032>>282622097>>282622158>>282622207>It also unfolds as the country's web comic industry faces stagnating growth and setbacks overseas. Webtoon Entertainment, Naver Webtoon's US-listed parent company, reported operating losses of $125 million last year. Its stock was trading at $9.34 as of Tuesday, down from a post-initial public offering high of $26 following its June 2024 debut.>Major players have retreated from international markets, with NHN shuttering services in the United States, Britain and France, while Kakao pulled out of Europe, Indonesia, Taiwan and China.>Meanwhile, data shows readers continue to spend less time on webtoon apps. Naver Webtoon users logged an average of 426 minutes in June, down from 481 minutes in June 2024, according to local analytics firm MobileIndex. Kakao Webtoon fell from 153 to 129 minutes in the same period.https://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=244933https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10548212
>>282621314Probably a mod who's all in for Webtoon/Manhwa. One of the easiest ways to get your shit deleted is to personally offend a janny/mod
>>282622387>https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10548212>"It's fair to say that YouTube Shorts, TikTok and Instagram Reels are webtoons' biggest competitors," said a Korea Creative Content Agency official who requested anonymity. "They share similar service styles and reader approaches. As webtoon subscribers migrate to short-form, it's become a threat to industry growth.">Then there's the cost-saving aspect. Creating derivative content from webtoons involves extensive manual work — from initial sketches to final coloring. Kakao claims its AI-powered Helix Shorts has slashed production time from three weeks to three hours and costs from $1,800 to $55 per video.>"By automating key stages of production, we're making short-form content more accessible and efficient — not just for us, but for creators as well," a Kakao Entertainment official said.LMAO these gooks are literally making AIslop bootleg manga
>>282622500>"It's a slippery slope," said a staff member at a major webtoon production company who requested anonymity. "Creators are already using AI-assisted tools in studios for coloring, background work, things like that. You can't really fight technology, but I do worry about where this leads. If AI can pump out promotional content, what's stopping companies from using it to generate an entire series?"pffffffffffffffff AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>282622488He is spamming and mass replying, I just made this post >>282622097 and now he keeps replying to me with unrelated shit
Why gooks love reverse harem so much?
>>282622500>It's fair to say that YouTube Shorts, TikTok and Instagram Reels are webtoons' biggest competitorsYouTube Shorts, TikTok and Instagram Reels? What the fuck is wrong with gooks?
>>282622620Fuck out of here with your disgusting gookshit, you have your containment thread over here >>282580253 you fucking tranny subhuman
>>282622623holy fuck that's funny
>>282622676u mad?
>>282622623Kek
>Why, yes -- a 37% compound annual growth rate is sustainable for the next decadeThis smells so much like paid studies to lure gullible investors in.
>>282616585With longstrips I have to swipe until my thumb hurts to get crumbs of content.
>>282616542>>282622387>Platforms like Naver Webtoon and Kakao Webtoon have significantly expanded their global user base.>It also unfolds as the country's web comic industry faces stagnating growth and setbacks overseas. Webtoon Entertainment, Naver Webtoon's US-listed parent company, reported operating losses of $125 million last year. Its stock was trading at $9.34 as of Tuesday, down from a post-initial public offering high of $26 following its June 2024 debut.Major players have retreated from international markets, with NHN shuttering services in the United States, Britain and France, while Kakao pulled out of Europe, Indonesia, Taiwan and China.>Gen Z and millennials are increasingly favoring webtoons over manga due to their mobile-friendly format, color-rich art, and episodic storytelling.Meanwhile, data shows readers continue to spend less time on webtoon apps. Naver Webtoon users logged an average of 426 minutes in June, down from 481 minutes in June 2024, according to local analytics firm MobileIndex. Kakao Webtoon fell from 153 to 129 minutes in the same period.Korean webtoon companies, which entered overseas markets seeing growth potential, are closing their businesses one after another due to lower-than-expected revenues. At the same time, in markets such as Europe, where print culture still dominates, Korean webtoon companies are struggling to gain traction.OP BTFO LMAO
>>282616542Not manga nor animefilthy >>>/co/gger
How does /a/ do it? Even with all it's flaws it still manages to maintain a level of quality far above the other media boards.
>>282616542i'm actually expecting webtoons to die off due to kakao being too hard on piracyno piracy, no discovery.also trying to push korea's cancerous monetization strategies outside korea.they got too cocky about their boom in readership from covid, and they're squandering all their gains.
>>282622500>>"It's fair to say that YouTube Shorts, TikTok and Instagram Reels are webtoons' biggest competitors," said a Korea Creative Content Agency official who requested anonymity. "They share similar service styles and reader approaches. As webtoon subscribers migrate to short-form, it's become a threat to industry growth."Webtroon is a joke
>>282623143Your wish is granted lol >>282622352OP is a fake chart btw
>>282622500>CEO KIM WE CAN’T BEAT MANGA AND OUR BOOTLEG MANGA INDUSTRY IS DYING FASTER THAN OUR BIRTH RATE WHAT DO>UHMM AHH OHHH YOUTUBE TIKTOK ARE OUR REAL ENEMIES BELIEVE IT! NOW LET GET TO SPAMS BILLIONS MORE AISLOP SOLO GAYMER HUNTER ISEKAI
>>282623143The investors are eventually going to jump off.The problem for webtoons is that they can't convert pirates into paying customers. People are used to reading for free so they're unwilling to spend money on a digital version.Manga has the same problem overseas but it can still have physical sales and the domestic Japanese market is a lot bigger than the Korean market for webtoons.
>>282623651webtoon is apparently in full enshittification mode to boost revenues, earlier this year they got rid of their free dailypass as they explore new avenues for increasing revenue.so obviously things aren't going so well if they're having to drop something like one free chapter a day to increase profits.
>>282616542That's comparing total revenue for manga sales with numbers pulled out of someone's ass by projecting growth trends from 5 years ago
>>282623651>>282623959also the physical media thing is a good point. people want to pay for something they actually own, more people would be willing to pay for a webtoon reformatted into an actual comic book than to read a chapter on an online reader.there are people who will say that long strip is actually a good format, but i think they're full of shit. webtoons are a better reading experience when they've been converted to standard comic book format, the long strip is just so much fucking dead space for no reason.
>>282622764Isn't that 90% of the economy right now?
wait is this /v/ or /tv/? why are people so obsessed with sales?
>>282624491Anon... anata no shounen jump general?
>>282623096Superior autists folded over a thousand times.
>>282617254Why is it always a fucking dagger
>>282624249I detest that reading format so much it's unreal. Paneling from hell.
>>282624249This whole webtroon garbage wouldn't be so shit if they could just format it better. Sure, your example works fine, but it's probably not too fun to read on a phone. The strip on the left just shows what I hate about it. Why is there so much fucking white space you have to scroll past? The parts of the strip are each roughly of the same size. Why not just blow that up to a full page view thrice that you can simply click instead of filling it with 50% white space? I don't fucking get it.
I quite like scrolling because the text is bigger and easier to read, I don't have to constantly zoom in like with mangas
>>282616542>0, 0, 5, 10, 15whoever labeled this chart needs to kill themselves
>>282625699Easier-to-read format is pointless if there's nothing to read.
>>282616542Is there anyone (at least ONE person [human]) who believes in this shit?
>>282625863That's how dick comparisons in South Korea look like.
>>282623959Do you get to keep the chapters you paid for or are they only rented for three days like with certain Japanese sites?Is there an equivalent to digital volumes?
>>28262807314 days
