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How do so many people keep misinterpreting this character from a shounen for middle schoolers so hard?
>uhhhhh bro but if he keeps saying he's proud of being the prince of saiyans then why doesn't he care about all the saiyans that got killed? or why did he kill Nappa? shouldn't he be bringing them back with the dragon balls?
Western DB fans are so retarded.
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>>282657736
Yeah as far as I know he never actually cared about being a prince. It's just a fan/videogame thing.
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>>282657736

Does anyone actually say that? His pride is obviously a warrior´s pride.
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>>282657736
I kind of wanna say that part of the problem is that the Saiyans keep getting progressively whitewashed, like people really shouldn't be wondering why Vegeta doesn't want to wish back a species of planet-killing psychos if not for the fact that the IP keeps softening them up
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>cries over his dead saiyan race.
bitch
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>>282658858
>Teamwork goes against his warrior's pride.
>allowing himself to be humiliated and left in a state close to death in order to receive zenkai boost is okay
Vegeta's pride is chameleonic and based on pure manchild copium.
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>>282657736
Reminder that we don't know that Vegeta was the prince of the saiyans until very late in the namek arc. In Saiyan saga and most of the namek arc, he was just a very powerful saiyan.
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>>282660069
Vegeta also probably doesn't want to bring back a bunch of failures that were subjugated and genocided while the greatest of the saiyans was a low class warrior who achieved that title by being gifted with the opportunity to not be raised by saiyans.
I'd be ashamed to call them my kin.
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>>282660069
Does it really keep softening them? Vegeta sent Broly to die on some random planet and no one stopped him. Paraguay mercilessly killed Beets. Bardock was still some random soldier who took over planets. And Vegeta the lesser shocked Nappa with his apathy for the destruction of Vegeta.
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>>282657736
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>>282657736
They don't read Dragon Ball

They don't even WATCH Dragon Ball and all its filler hell

They watch TFS
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>>282658752
He had friends?
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>>282662645
Bardock just went and saved a woman and her child from THE ACTUAL BAD GUY who was pulling the strings

It keeps whitewashing them by showing them in the best light possible. It never says "they didn't kill people" but it does it by focusing on other things
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>>282657736
the nortubel of dragon ball
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>>282660069
>The Saiyan armor is heavily reminiscent of samurai armor
>Tien is basically a Chinese stand in culturally
What the fuck Toriyama?
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>>282657736
He's the comic relief character
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>>282662645
>Does it really keep softening them?
Yes? All your examples are bitchshit compared to how they were presented back in the 90s. They're just people with tails now.
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>>282662645
>does it keep softening them
We have got two full movie reboots that completely change both Bardock and Broly's character, as well as the basic history we've been told for Saiyans and how they work, are you fucking kidding?
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Vegeta is just a psycho retard with a low IQ
Who else would have this kind of autism to genocide their own race

Even with Goku being the only other pure blood Saiyan alive as far as he knows he spent most of his life trying to kill him

Vegeta is a self hating cuck
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>>282665687
Vegeta doesn't give a shit about the Saiyans or his race >>282658752
He only cares about his glory. Nappa was useless and a pain at that point so he just got rid of him.
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>>282657736
He's proud that he's an especially strong warrior among warriors. So even if you're among his warriors so-to-speak he doesn't care. You grovel.
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>>282665858
>He only cares about his glory
*Frieza's glory
And the glory of beerus

He's the eternal kneeler
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>>282665905
>*Frieza's glory
Merely bidding his time (and coping as much as he could). He knows his limits. At least he used to before Cell
>And the glory of beerus
Supershit
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>>282665687
Early Dragon Ball was so fucking clean with its choreography and framing, Tori really was a god.
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>>282665687
>Vegeta is a self hating cuck
No he's actually a good representation of a nationalist.
Loving your race =/= loving people in your race
You should see how /pol/ cheers when a white leftist suffers.
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>How do so many people keep misinterpreting this character
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>>282665915
>At least he used to before Cell
Okay look, he had his ego stroked by two good stomps before his two big fails the first of which he couldn't sense his opponent's strength
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>>282667612
It just feels a bit weird how he changed from this absolute bastard who had no issue with cheating to win to this MUH PRIDE guy.
Not horrible but still different
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>>282657736
Ummmmm it's Nietzschean spirit which stems from Hellenic thought actually. Go back to the eternal rice paddy for another millennia before you talk of the West
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>>282667619
Pretty sure even in verse they said getting Super Sayain changed him
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I AM THE PRINCE OF SAIYAN
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>>282657736
>How do so many people keep misinterpreting this character from a shounen for middle schoolers so hard?
You could apply this to all of DB. Most people aren't as smart as middle schoolers.
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>>282658858
>warrior´s pride
You're at the stage I was years ago where I thought everyone got that, but keep in mind that's an entirely foreign concept for most.

>>282662645
Aside from the other examples presented, Cumber as originally announced in Heroes as "the evil saiyan" as if that made him special. It has been going for a while.

>>282663670
>filler hell
You didn't watch it either to be fair.
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>>282667612
>>282667619
Vegeta's goal wasn't to kill Cell to save the world.
You're the people who OP is talking about.
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>>282658752
Nappabros... The Prince said we're his friend.



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