All's Well That Ends Wellhttps://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1026379
>>282670960I like how there isn't any bad blood between them despite what happened.
>>282670852I get power but virginity isn't precious for a guy
>>282671132>priest
>>282671132He's a priestVow of celibacy and all that
>>282671132It is for a pious boy that was almost raped.
The End...
I binged this series last week becauss I saw it hit a 100, and just want to say the scene of Josh jerking it was really hot.
>>282670852filthy slut
>>282670852>>282670888>Josh lost his powers because he lost his virginity See? Purity rocks! Should have married Imuri first somehow.
>girl makes googly eyes at him>immediately abandons his causeLucifer wins again
My thoughts on this manga are basically>Love the art>Love the story>Love the characters>Ambivalent on the romanceIt's definitely a great manga, but I don't find Imuri as likable as the story expects me to.
>>282671244Couldn't he have officiated the marriage since he's a priest. I guess you need a third party.>>282671210This is where you can leave if you want the suffering to end (more suffering is sure to come)>>282671259It was Satan's Keikaku, Lucifer simply knew.
...of Part 6.Part 7 start.
>>282671259Maybe that cause should have done a single good thing for his life
>>282671354BABA YAGA
>>282671210Imagine if this got axed and this was the final page. How would you feel?
>>282671314I think it's normal that we dislike or hate her, she's a manipulating harlot regardless of if she really loves ol El Joshy Angelo Mc Adam. She doesn't deserve him, but we should be happy that Josh has found something to be happy about.
>>282671354Thanks for the dump OP.Part of me expects Baba Yaga to usurp Satan as the final boss. Would be funny if the "all according to keikaku" guy gets totally outplayed in the end
>>282671404Somehow I think I would be satisfied at the fact Mr Priest gets to relax, but that leaves so many plot threads. It's like if you watch an anime adaptation that only has one season, it doesn't feel good.
>>282671318>>282671354>Six demon lord body partsWho are they missing?
>>282671318calling it now, baba yaga is holding dante/dante's soul hostage and verge is reluctantly helping her
>>282671375>face hardship>immediately buckle and give up at the first sight of a girl pretending to like youWell, she's certainly good at being a succubus, ill give her that.
>>282671484>Lucifer's feather>Beelzebub's finger>Mammon's feather>Asmodeus' eyeThe other 2 are from Belphegor and Leviathan I think, but I don't think either of them ever lost an eye
who da fack is baba yaga?
>>282671572Any bit of affection would have done it, dude was abused since he was a infant
>>282670960Best girl is here, good chapter
>>282671318>>282671354This wouldn't have happened if he wasn't gay.
>>282671640So his answer is to instead basically give into the plans of literal satan just because some devil hoe fucked him?
>>282671640He needed the grooming, Dante tried to make him less of a prude and failed. Amodeus won with slow seduction and awakened him to jerking it.
>>282671635She was mentioned way before dude.
>>282671404Happy honestly. Of course all the other problems aren't solved but that's how life is, once he accepted being a normal human he should have gotten to have his normal imperfect happy-ish ending that's the most normal people can ever get.
>>282671720I'm not gonna say Imuri's a good person, but Josh was a child soldier and he was miserable as hell with the world being on his shouldersThough it's really clear that he's relieved to find out the other exorcists don't "need" him and are doing alright without him
>>282671635>speedreading
>>282671713This wouldn't have happened if Dante just gave him a little kiss instead of killing himself.
>>282671720I think it's clear he's still torn on the decision of giving up on his duties but this is the first time in his life probably that he picked himself over duty, the story is going so he will come around surely but acting like him giving up was only because of Imuri is downplaying his struggle by a lot
>>282671806Anyone who would risk everyone else for the sake of his personal pleasure is, objectively, not a good person. He of all people should know that Imuri is nothing but a temptress sent by hell for this literal exact purpose.
This makes me wonder how the manga CAN end, since it's not like you can have him regain his powers and kill all demons forever or make the world perfect. It would also be kind of a cop-out to just make Baba Yaga the big bad and once they kill her everything is magically ok, or to "redeem" the demons who by their nature would basically exist forever because of how humans are. This would have been a pretty good ending, just focus on one person's story and how he found happiness.
>>282671861Nta but he also planned putting the entire world to sleep with Bel. It's fine for him to not actually be some inherently saintly person and instead break under pressure like anyone else would.
>>282671861When the safety and future of everyone is built upon the suffering of a kid, that's objectively not good either. Priest almost condemned everyone because of that and only detracted from that plan because Imuri gave him a shred of hope.
>>282671861In Josh's defense, he very explicitly refuses to get anyone else caught up in his own desires. We saw that with Beelzebub in the last arc.Is he being selfish? Perhaps. But he's definitely going about this in the best way possible. Even after leaving the Church, he's still trying to help out his exorcist friends.I would say he's a good person, even if he's not perfect.
>>282671816Or if the church wasn't insanely corrupt and abusive, which is now going to get swept under the rug because hurr summoning Baba Yaga bad so let's ignore how the witches had a very real point.
>>282672032>When the safety and future of everyone is built upon the suffering of a kid, that's objectively not good either.That's debatable.>>282672048>But he's definitely going about this in the best way possible.And I'm sure giving up on his powers so he can have sex will definitely not have any consequences whatsoever.
>>282672113Counterpoint: the witches quite literally aid a demon who commits genocide for fun and forced a 5 year old girl to eat her own baby brother.Sure some priests were assholes, but the witches are still very much in the wrong.
>>282672202I mean sure they did bad things too but we're never expected to forget about that whereas I think there's a high chance their legitimate issues will be sidelined with the Baba Yaga mess. The church is treated as mostly good even though the abuse is widespread and making it go away is unrealistic as that will never happen irl.
>>282671484>>282671582Chapter 63 and 64 showed Beelzebub's Pinky, and Mammon's feather. The eye is probably from Asmodeus. The other eye is probably Belphegor's since his eye is always covered, and the white feather is probably Lucifer's. The hair seems to be Leviathan's so I guess we're missing Satan's fragment.
So... Is this how it's going to be? The bad guys win? Now what?
>>282672176It's not though, abusing a child is evil.
>>282672352I double checked, Leviathan's hair was confirmed in 35.
>>282672365If Satan wins the children will be a lot more than abused
>>282671928Leviathan can become the leader of Hell and lead it to redemption I guess.
>>282672361My Fuarking Baby Eating Hero is still around! She will defeat Satan!
>>282672441So they should have looked for a way that didn't involve hurting a child and expecting him to be their soldier. If the world can't be saved without toturing a little kid it doesn't deserve to be saved.
>>282672506>One child had to be hurt to save the world, that means every single child everywhere forever should be tortured eternally!Nice logic retard
>>282672473I mean someone would fall eventually, that would feel cheap.
>>282671354A...house chicken?
>>282672589Yes, Baba Yaga's hut.
Why is Slavic folklore like this, why are all northern counties full of fucked up weird gnomes that just love eating kids?
>>282672670Wasn't the point of early folklore to teach children basic things like don't follow strangers or go too far into the forest
>>282672321>church is treated as mostly good even though the abuse is widespread and making it go away is unrealistic as that will never happen irl.I don't think the abuse is really treated as "widespread." Most of Josh's suffering came from a single asshole priest (Nicholas) and even Verge, a guy who was literally sexually assaulted by priests throughout his childhood, seems to see it as individuals committing evil instead of the organization as a whole. The real issue is that the Church isn't doing enough to punish these people, and in doing so kinda enables their corruption (which actually closer to what happened with the Catholic Church's pedophilia scandal irl. Priests aren't any more likely to be child predators than any other adults, but they were in a position of trust and the organization wasn't doing enough to punish them),Though it's interesting that Dante has the perspective of "these people should be kept around" even though he himself was victimized by one of those corrupt clergy. I'm interested to see where they go with this.
>>282672723Yeah a lot of folklore was just scaring kids into not doing stuff
>>282672723fair enough, but did she need the chicken leg house and flying mortar and pestel
>>282672176The kid of Omelas is a sentient, feeling being. He's human with all that carries. You can't expect him to shoulder the suffering of everyone when no one is capable of that without breaking down in the process one way or another, and with him down, everyone else will break apart too if they never considered any other way to exist.And in this case it's not debatable because we already saw the possible repercussions of that mindset. Priest-kun was ready to become the harbinger himself because he'd had enough and only didn't because he was given an out. Even outside of any ethical discussion, logically it's been proven unfeasible in the long term.
>>282672756You gotta make it scary somehow
Church shouldn't treat their most powerful asset like a trash. if he was treated like prince with good mother and sister love he would see babilon whore's lie and save the world.
>>282671421Well, we/he already got told by Lucifer that all his scheming will amount to nothing.
>>282672768The difference from the kid of Omelas is that it was merely a human matter. This is a conflict of literal demons. Nothing a human does will be as bad as what a demon will do. >Priest-kun was ready to become the harbinger himself because he'd had enough and only didn't because he was given an out.That's a moral failing on his part, as shown yet again in this chapter.
>>282672361Everything is going according to God's plan so the bad guys will lose. Sure, a lot of people are going to die, but that's all part of the plan.
>>282672589https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Yaga
>>282672797Slavic children when they see a chicken
>>282672750I guess is the same reason why they allowed some Nazi and most Japanese war criminals alive. Is better to have evil corrupt shit than letting everything to fall into an unorganized mess.
>>282671132they have literal wizard powers anon
>>282672802The strongest lies are ones that have good intentions behind it, even if its a very twisted and selfish version of good will.Imuri was going to seduce Joshua El Angelus Adams with her lies regardless of what the church may have done.
>>282672939If he had Angel sister GF wife she would lost
Has Leviathan actually done anything wrong? Beelzebub, Mammon, and Asmodeus are all pretty bad, Satan's behind all this Belphegor fucked up a little, Lucifer I can't exactly fault because he know his fate is predestined. But I don't remember Leviathan doing anything particularly bad.
>>282672768Okay this has nothing to do with your actual point, but the child of Omelas was introduced as a hypothetical in the actual short story. The whole point of the short story was that readers are so pessimistic that they can't believe that a "perfect" society can exist without some kind of dark secret, even when that dark secret makes zero real sense.>Here's this city where everything is perfect and everyone is happy.>Oh what's that? You think there has to be some kind of dark secret?>Fine. All their happiness comes from a suffering child. Satisfied now?There's no logical reason that a suffering child would enable a city's happiness, yet somehow the child makes the setting feel more "real." Because readers are so cynical that a literal suffering child is the only way they can buy a utopia existing.
>>282671132Slut
>>282673003She was shown to destroy cities with a casual waving and she also births monsters constantly.To be fair, that is what she was made for by God, but still.
>>282672750I suppose they're trying to pretend the church isn't as bad as the one in real life but that looks weird when them horribly abusing the mc is what makes the plot work.
>>282670852I think he only got one of the two precious things correct. Also, has Imuri even told Priest-kun that it was Satan who told her to try to seduce him? I feel like keeping that part out is a red flag after she should be no secrets now.
>>282672825Humans are not perfect, one is bound to crash if you stress him out with a lot of responsibilities and baggage.The plan to have a team of exorcist came too late.
>>282673043Fair enough, I guess not doing it out of malice isn't an excuse. But she's at least the least bad of the seven, mostly.
How do you prefer your mama? Big, Small, or Monstrous?
>>282673159All of them together.
>>282673063I mean you can kinda extrapolate that Satan sent her to do it.>>282673089They should have planned to send Leah to seduce him and birth an even stronger excorcist.
>>282670960You know, I will not get mad if we will only get these three instead moving forward.
>>282673194I don't think that's how powers work in this setting.Also, priestman and Leah are supossed to be virgins until the day they met Jesus.
>>282670960Why Lea's dress is so short? I thought that women can't show their ankles in the Vatican City.
Anons i am still disturbed by the reception of this and the previous chapter . The antagonist won , the protagonists will have to suffer consequences later , but everyone on reddit , x , and 4chan is celebrating , because he felt happy for an hour , and when you ask them why , they wuote bible verses saying everything is fine as long as you repent right at the end . It sounds cheap , hedonistic. I cannot believe most christians celebrate seeing a saint sin
>>282673332Satan WON
>>282673003To rank the demon lords from least to most evil:Leviathan > Belphegor > Lucifer >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mammon > Asmodeus >>>>> BeelzebubLeviathan isn't "evil" and she doesn't act out of any kind of malice. That said, I hesitate to call her "good" considering what she said to Satan about how Imuri is "something that belongs to her."Belphegor is a mess of a person and he did try to end the world. That said, I think he's arguably the most capable of changing for the better. He did own up to his failings at the end of his arc, and he did seem to take the first step to healing from Luka's death.While Lucifer is the most overtly virtuous of them all, he's also the most stuck in his ways. He's not "evil" but he's fucking delusional and will never ever give up this pointless one-sided "war."Mammon practically embodies everything wrong with modern society but he's at least good to his employees.Asmodeus is a mass rapist who never expresses any kind of remorse for what she does. I consider her worse than Mammon if only because Asmodeus DOES realize on some level that what she's doing is wrong, yet she simply chooses to do it anyway.Beelzebub does not need an explanation.
>>282673332Lucifer arc made clear that everything is going as God's wanted.
>>282673332>I cannot believe most christians celebrate seeing a saint sinBelieve it.Humanity a shit.
>>282673420You forgot Satan who is the one who tempted Lucifer to see God's plan, the one who send Imuri to tempt the strongeset exorcist, the one tempted Belphegor to marry a human.
>>282673332I will not condemn a child for this >>282671210after a life of suffering, like i know it's a decision that will have horrible consequences but i get why it happenedalso don't take internet faith seriously lol
>>282673476Satan probably ranks as the most evil because he's behind everything, but he's not as actively evil as Asmodeus and Beelzebub. He's either rank 1 or 3.
>>282673476>Tempted LuciferHe only made him doubt at first. After checking god's plan, he saw through all his schemes and only chose to rebel still because it was part of the plan and he couldn't avoid it.
>>282670960He could have stayed with the Church if you weren't a fuckup Marco. Joshua lost his V-card because you were overly zealous. >>282671123>>282671174Man this relationship isn't healthy at all. >>282671354And then there's this bitch.
>>282673332Trust in God's plan.Father-kun was destined to touch those boobs.
>>282673551Careful, you will attract our resident Marcuck schizo.
>>282673476We really don't know enough about Satan.Though I really hope Satan turns out to be a spiteful, hate-filled, petty shit-head. It'd be such a good take on Wrath where he acts chill and calm on the surface, but deep down he fucking hates everyone.
>>282673548Making Lucifer doubt was how he tempted him to read God's plan.This shitty snake probably knew about it and he is probably smothering with rage that everything was planned by God.
Now that the flood gates are open, will Josh fall further and have sex with OTHER WOMEN, or will he be faithful to his common law demon wife.
>>282673757Imuri is kind of a creator's pet, so I doubt that Josh is going to get any action on the side, let alone wise up and leave her.
>>282673332God has a plan.
Y'know since it was hinted that in the Sloth arc that Satan and his wife are on bad terms, it would be hilarious if Satan's actual motivation is that he wants to make his failing marriage everyone's problem.The real reason he wants to set up Josh and Imuri isn't to take over the world or whatever, but because he's projecting onto them and wants to make their relationship go to shit just like his did.
>>282673906The original misogynist
>>282673757Joshua El Angelus Adams is a good man. He won't cheat on his girlfriend.
>>282673955Yet we thought El Josh would remain chaste. Curious how things have changed.
>>282673757It should be with other men instead
>>282671514>>282671354>Mr. Josh's eye is in the Baba Yaga's possessionSo would it count as the sloth or the wrath fragment? I'd imagine the wrath fragment would be easier to obtain since Satan's actively helping her out.
>>282673996I thought most people knew that he will fall into sin with Imuri.You know, the title of this manga. The question was not will, but when.
>>282674036Mikhail will burn unless he repents.
>>282673332This is the wrong manga to be focusing on scripture my Christnigga, they let multiple fags in the church. They even let Leah walk around with her legs out sinfully.
All according to Keikaku - God
>>282674193By that logic, using condom is a sin and most Christians I know uses condom.
>>282674227reminder that it's a sin to wear clothes made up of multiple types of fibers
>>282670960>leah's sad smile while thinking about Mr. JoshLEAHBABS I CAN'T FUCKING TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE
>>282674227Depends on the sect. Using a condom, the pill, or any contraceptives is frowned on by the Catholic Church
>>282674193Deuteronomy 22:5"A woman shall not wear man's apparel, nor shall a man put on a woman's garment, for whoever does such things is abhorrent to the Lord your God"At least in Mikhail's case he's going straight to H E double hockey sticks. I guess Dante gets a pass unless we get the reveal that he and Verg smooched.
>>282674325I know that this thread has real Christians, but do you guys really follow your creed?It looks like a shit religion to follow.
>>282670888>Josh's demonic power was just tied to Belphegor's arkWell, at least we got that explanation covered. I guess there's no worry about him getting corrupted into becoming a demon lord (yet).
>>282674391I mean that's kinda what the manga is about, chapter 1 Josh took his eye out because he got a boner. Zealotry over a plagarized book from 2000 years ago causing needless suffering, while its good virtues are only scarcely followed.
>>282674354>Old Testament
>>282674271>Still wants the best for him even as she knows he picked another girlMaybe I’m reading way too deeply into it, but I think the reason Josh went with Imuri is that she’s simply a far more selfish and greedy person than Leah is. Leah loves him too but she’s also really hesitant to convince him to stop being an exorcist because she’s worried that other people will die without him (Note: I absolutely do not fault her for this considering her past). Imuri is willing to sacrifice anything and everything to be with the guy she likes, up to and including his own happiness, which is why she was the one who ended up with Josh.
>>282674391>everyone is sinful but that's okayvs>don't eat pork, cut your foreskin off, Jihad for Allah, don't eat cow, be vegetarian, follow the Buddha to the letter or you will reincarnate into a bug or some shitI think Christianity is the least demanding major religion there is.
>>282674138He’s just zesty
>>282671123Am I losing my fucking mind? When did Imuri protect Joshua?
>>282674515Does a normal religion even exist?
>>282674515lmao read the actual Bible
>>282674559The end of Sloth was Imuri taking a bullet for Josh when all his Church friends were trying to kill her. So even though it was him protecting her until she took the bullet, I can see Josh being mindbroken enough to reframe that whole scene as her protecting him.
>>282674391I’ve had a lot of ups and downs with religion over my life, but am currently getting back into Catholicism and trying to take it more seriously.Christians are not required to follow the old law. The apostles decided this at the Jerusalem Council.>>282674466I actually disagree that the story frames Christianity as an inherent negative. Yeah it says you shouldn’t be a zealot, but as early as the first chapter they make it clear that this isn’t truly what being a believer means.
>>282674584No, it's kinda crazy how people believing in an all powerful creator that may speak to them in their mind is not seen as some kind of mental illness in this modern age simply because the majority believe.
>>282674595how about you, Christians aren't expected to follow mosaic law outside the 10 Commandments. Only heretic money-worshipping Judaizer Amerimutts pay any attention to that.
>>282674492Yeah, you can definitely draw a parallel between them. Leah just wants the best for Mr. Josh while Imuri would prioritize his love over his well-being.Also,>>Still wants the best for him even as she knows he picked another girlThe funniest thing is that Imuri did the exact opposite shit in the lust arc by letting Mr. Josh walk into Asmodeus's clutches because she "lost".I can't wait for their relationship to crash and burn holy shit
>>282674625This is true"Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."It's about following the spirit of Christianity, not the law as it's specifically written.>>282674703Look up Jewish lifts, they really try to rules lawyet God on Sabbath.
>>282674703Maybe I am crazy, but didn't Jesus said that he didn't come to change the old laws?
>>282670960Will Leah be saved...
>>282672887You've never had to run away as a kid from a rooster your size and it shows. Angry fuckers. And don't even get me started on the hellspawn that are geese
>>282674758well yeah, he came to fulfill the laws of the Prophets. What this means is up for debate but we know Jesus didn't follow the Mosaic laws given his stance on stoning or treating non-Jews as equal to Jews.
>>282671318Is that Satan's snake? Is he working with Baba Yaga?
is Imuri ever going to tell Joshua about the whole "I was sent by Satan for his master keikaku" thingit seems kind of important
>>282674960Snake appears whenever one of Satan's schemes works successfully.
>>282674193>>282674227Sin is anything that pushes you further away from God, don't get it confused. Nothing is "a sin" just for its own sake. Being a guy who sticks his penor in the buttholes of dozens of other guys is extremely far from what God intended for you, and most people like that couldn't have less interest in being close to God. Thus, why it's bad.In this manga, Lucifer explicitly told the witch that God still loved him. Lucifer also still loves God, and is loved by God. All the demons are probably still loved by God. And now, Mr. Priest loves the demons, too. Instead of just exterminating them mindlessly like a machine, he came to have empathy for them. (In real life, you cannot have empathy for demons, so don't even try; they're total psychos.)>>282673332Satan has not won, and will never win.He does, however, still have to be contended with. Seemed like a lot of readers forgot about him within the last few chapters.
>>282674758Matthew 5:17, even tho the statement about not changing Torah Law isn't absolute given statement like Matthew 19:3-6, and in Matthew 17:24-27 Jesus basically says that Torah mandated Temple tax should be payed not because you have to but for the sake of not arising controversy, point is that Jesus makes the Temple obsolete.Still, early gentile converts to Christianity were not required to keep all Torah Law, as was decided at the Jerusalem council.
>>282672540demon detected. back to Gehenna with you!
Did Joshua actually lose his powers?
>>282675012Honestly this is all out of character for the God from the Bible who absolutely did hate people and did shit out of spite and hatred all the time. The manga is in a weird spot where it both tries to have the Bible be true and also have God be a good guy instead of the murderous psychopath he frequently acts like.
>>282673194>an even stronger excorcist.The exorcists's powers come from God, not from themself. Josh was groomed to have no attachments to the world and zero selfishness or desires other than to exorcise demons, which is why he was the strongest. Everyone else has their attachments, doubts, worldly desires, etc, and are not on his level. It is not likely that an even stronger exorcist could be made without refining the process that Josh went through. Genetics aren't a factor.
>>282671318>>282671354
>>282672113>o let's ignore how the witches had a very real point.They don't. Even if you want to claim they are somehow oppressed, their rituals still require the death and torment of people. Doesn't matter if they showed that one group they killed had one scummy CEO, the witches just want you to feel bad for them when they are straight up just not good people.
>>282673548Bible says Satan works in subtle ways, not always huge and drastic. His intent is what matters here, not so much the literal actions taken in service of that intent.
>>282675230Mary marked all Tabby cats with the M on their foreheads.
>>282675172That's just your misunderstanding of the source material.
>>282675012Tbh I still think Satan is God's judge as per judaism, setting up Josh to be tempted is all part of the plan
>>282675347Boring
>>282675347>in Judaism, Satan is God's judgeno he isn'tsatan is the accuser, which is more like a prosecuting attorney than a judge.
>>282674976>Will the succubus sent to seduce a man blow her cover for no reasonWhat do you think, anon? Do you think that succubuses are unable to say nice things? Do you think that pretending they love you is beyond them?
>ah yes, the most famous classic japanese cuisine>meat and potato stewdid the translator fumble this one
>>282675523Should have left it as nikujaga.
>>282671123>I need to keep an eye on you so you don't do bad things againthat's how they get you
so is lucifer technically still an angel? just a fallen one who never turned into a demon like satan
>still no anime after chapter 100It's so over.
>>282675170His miracle powers were weakened because he did the sex, but his demon powers are apparently completely fading over time without Belphegor's Ark to act as a source. So he could still wield divine power, he's just weaker than he was before.
>>282675766>"angel">calls himself the demon lord of pride
>>282675766kinda seems like it. maybe his pride causes him to retain his identity and sense of self unlike the others who are have accepted their fate and are pretty okay sinking deeper into weirdness.on the other hand, Lucifer aspires to be like God, and angels are the servants of God. i don't think you qualify as an angel if you're refusing to serve God.
>>282671057Imuri you absolute bitch
>>282675766I like to imagine he is basically still Angel because he didn't get assbeaten as bad as the others during the war in Heaven, Beel got fucking trashed, he had both his wings broken
>>282676024It's weird how this was just completely isolated from the rest of the story. We've had so many teasers about Satan and Lillith and the Baba Yaga, and yet we haven't heard anything about an airplane crashing down into the void.Can't fucking wait.
Why is Baba Yaga even in the story? Does she have anything to do with christanity?
>>282676084god didn't notice such pridful prick on purposenow this fool thinks it's part of bigger plan
I am loving this manga so far but whether it will be a genuinely great work or another forgettable slop like JJK heavily depends on how the mangaka handles Imuri in the future.
>>282674466Wrong. The first chapter made it a point it's good to be a believer but that's not what Josh was. he was a slave.
How much sex do you think she had before priest?
Why does the priest seem so miserable throughout the entire episode? Is this what Redditors consider a happy ending?
>>282676177Not specifically, but I remember her from the Hellboy comics. Interestingly, her role seems to be pretty similar, with her trying to get to the prophesized destruction of the world and all.
>>282676258>>282676260
>>282676260>miserableWhat do you mean, anon? He's the happiest he's ever been.(His happiness is somewhat misplaced, sure, considering he's still with Im*ri, but he's still a lot happier with the way his circumstances are now.)
>>282670960>barbara has taken over leah's role as the funny one nowwhat the FUCK happened to her, bros???
>>282676260>Cath, a succubus is put off by dogfucking but the human witches aren'twhat did humanity mean by this?
>>282676881>the equivalent of her niece is getting humped by the family dogBeing upset is a normal reaction. If it were one of her girls in the brothel I doubt she would care since they have undoubtedly done worse.
>>282675187Splitting hairs, but Leah’s powers come from alchemy
>>282671318>not even Baba Yaga wants Vergil to continue his planKEKAROOOOO
>manga written by woman>no accountability for womenthey really are allergic to it, huh
>>282676597A: She probably blames herself for what happened to JoshB: She saw Imuri as a friend (even though she was literally investigating her)
>>282676260It's for a few reasons, I guess. The vibe I get is very familiar to me as when you have a big fight with your spouse and never truly make up, but just both quietly put your anger to the side and go back to life as usual, and even have fun with each other, laugh, smile, cuddle, but that wound is still unhealed beneath the surface because it has not been properly addressed.The other thing is, as he said. He feels anxious because he knows that being hedonistic and "of the world" is wrong and not what he was made for. People need his help and he's just off being a wagie.Last thing I can think of is that he's a human, and a priest, and she's a demon, and a succubus. They cannot get married. It's a very forbidden relationship. Hard to feel at ease in such a situation. She's also subtly manipulating him, and he probably knows it. First thing she does when she wakes from a coma is asks "Wanna fuck?" And when he wonders if he should try harder to help his friends and be more priest-like, she tells him not to, and says it's fine to live a selfish life only worrying about his own needs. This is something he wants to hear, but that he knows is evil.
>>282677010Is the author’s gender known?
>>282677010You just need to have faith, anon. The manga has stressed multiple times that love can't solve everything by itself. And the whole chapter is going "hey isn't this so nice isn't this such a happy ending wink wink".
>>282677096>when he wonders if he should try harder to help his friends and be more priest-like, she tells him not to, and says it's fine to live a selfish life only worrying about his own needs. This is something he wants to hear, but that he knows is evil. I think this sums it all up
>>282676996True, but only in part. She asks the angels to lend her their power. It's still the power of Heaven that she's wielding and not some innate ability.
>>282677010Nothing is resolved at all yet. And I don't think I've seen any excuses made for the women.
>>282677097Writes and draws like a woman.
>>282671174>>282671210Their relationship isn't going to last is it?
>>282670960Leah, my beloved...
>>282674492You make it sound as if Joshy boy ever considered her as a love interest lol, in his eyes they are just coworkers kwab.
>>282671210Das it mayne
>>282677455>struggling this hard with love and falling for a literal semen demon when Leah was RIGHT THEREI love him but what the fuck, Josh
>>282671318>>282671354Fuck off paganic homos, let me enjoy the comfy heretic SOL for a bit longer.
I still find it funny that his name is such a Frankenstein.>Son of God>God>Angel.>First Human.All in different languages too. No wonder he is embarrassed about it.
I now agree that Marco did something wrong. He failed to utterly erase that filthy whore.
>>282673332I’m not happy because satan won or sin occurred. I’m happy because the protagonist smiled. I also believe this isn’t the “win” for evil that you think it is. Obviously conflicts will continue to occur and Josh may very well meet a tragic end. But for now the boy who knew only suffering, fighting, and loneliness now lives with his gf and makes pastries.
>>282677572You want to turn our priest into a real Demon Lord?
>>282675766If you want to read into it, he still has his demonic powers because he never entirely lost sight of the virtues he held as an angel
>>282677530"Being right there" isn't enough to get someone to like you. He wouldn't consider her even if he never met Imuri.
>>282677631>He wouldn't consider her even if he never met ImuriTrvth nvkeChadmuri always wins
>>282670960Pleasantly surprised they still want the best for him. Thought they were gonna have Josh and the Church be enemiesEven if being an exorcist hurt him, they still were his friends
>>282671635Some Russian babushka that made prophecies. In the story a witch which follows the theme of the unavoidably nature of faith, in short we are fucked maybe not like we think it will happen but it will and no one can do anything about it. Current year and such lol.
>>282677455Maybe.Still feel bad for her though. She’s a good girl.
So is Imuri going to betray Josh eventually?
>>282677829yep. cuck christboy will be like>whyyyyyy i love you and betrayed GOD for youshe will be like >LOL im femme fatal dumbass
>>282677631Yeah, I have to agree. I think the reason Leah never got with Josh was because it would ultimately have ended in tragedy. Remember that Leah was fully planning on dying if necessary to repel Beelzebub, and even after she survived, her lifespan suffered for it. I could see her just not wanting to make her ties on Earth stronger than they need to be before the Beelzebub fight.
>>282677829No.Imuri never gave a shit about Satan’s plans. She only went along with them because they offered an opportunity to live out her fantasy of making someone choose her over God. Like, that’s the whole reason she was so fixated on the story of Azazel.
>>282677829Betray? She was never on his side. This is all a ploy.
>>282671210...with a used goods whore
>>282677902>the story of Azazel was never about an angel falling for a demon, but an angel falling for an Earth woman>Imuri is not an Earth woman>Leah, however, is an Earth woman who mainly uses Azazel's power of alchemy specifically in battle>This is the only other time Azazel is mentionedTRVST THE PLAN LEAHBROS
>>282677829Shitmuri will start spending more time at Rofo's house for some strange reason.
>>282678070Rofo is a good owner, he won't let Irumi harm his dogs.
Funnily enough, the angels who fell for human women weren't in love,or at least that's never explicitly stated, they are just said to have found human women attractive
>>282677990Azazel’s also mentioned in Golem’s backstory.
I hope we see the angel side next chapter.
>>282678200Satan keeps talking to his wife despite her being frozen and is likely his whole plan is about saving her somehow
>>282678413More like he's butthurt at god because they were the first sin of love.
>>282671314Part of the problem is we know Imuri has fallen in love before, that's kind of her thing, so we know she'll eventually forget about Josh and find someone else to love
>>282678413Calling it now: it’s gonna be a bait and switchSatan doesn’t want to save his wife; he wants to make her suffer. He’s actually the one who froze her.
>>282673003Indeed I'd say she is at least the least evil. Which makes theological sense, even when she is a "demon" she is not a fallen angel unlike Satan and company. She even carries on with God's order as she continues to give birth to the creatures on the sea. I'd say besides Belphegor and the Luka thing she is just a tragic hero, one with a twisted behaviour, of course. But she never defies God, even when sometimes the demon lord manipulate her.She's not even angry at God for her being lonely, she just feels jealous of the other creatures. Which makes sense for her being Envy and also explains why she is "good" on some way. Leviathan was created by God, one can say she is just the most twisted and moraly gray representation of his will But well, if we carry this all the way we can argue the Demon Lords aren't evil since they are also plan of God's Will. Lucifer even says all the demonic powers comes from the only source which is God's love
>>282678648He probably has a really twisted love for Lillith, like Imuri's own love for Josh. So it might be a little bit of both: he loves her, but he also wants to keep her in Cocytus for whatever reason.
If you think about it, it's extremely tragic.Josh was abused since he was a kid, manipulated into believing that he needs to sacrifice pretty much everything to fight the demons.Then he finds love but she's also a plot by Satan to manipulate Josh.Although his love is true, it all started because of manipulation.He has been manipulated all his life, by different parties. Pretty fucked up.
>>282671174>foreverbut Mr. ex-Priest only has a mortal lifespan
>>282676252>>282676024>>282676393I'll guess these are the inner covers of the manga volumes. Can you upload them all or do you know where can I check them?
This manga honestly has one of my favorite villain casts out of any ongoing series rnI think it's respectable how it can kiiiiiiiiinda humanize characters like Asmodeus, but it also make it clear that she is still an utter piece of shit. Her actual, literal takeaway from getting rejected is "I regret not raping this 12 year old child into submission until she agreed to be my wife."
I don't like this dread I'm feeling
>>282677304Speedreader-kun, they're a duo.... the one who draws isn't the one who writes...
>>282676260I wouldn't say miserable and more conficted like he knows he should be at the front lines to stop baba yaga but it's the first time in his life he thinks he can be happy and imuri is doing pic related
>>282678833Part of me wishes the story ends with Josh realizing Imuri isn't the final option and he leaves her to really find himself. But this is a romance story so I don't have any real hope for this being the case.
>>282674492>Leah loves him too but she’s also really hesitant to convince him to stop being an exorcist because she’s worried that other people will die without himI don't think so. If anything, Leah would be happy to cover for Josh if he wanted to tap out. I think her being less selfish has more to do with her not wanting to form a relationship with him and then hurt him by dying early.
>>282679407>leaves to "find himself"that's dumb, he already knows what he wants. The problem is Imuri refuses to come clean about everything and Joshua is too mindbroken to press her on it.
>>282679407If this was a played straight romance story, this scene would've taken place at the very end. We still have at least one more part left, so I don't think it's going to be as simple as "and then Josh and Imuri lived with no problems in their relationship besides demon lords trying to kill him :D"
>>282679537>he already knows what he wantsHe really doesn't. Hence why he's working part time in the job he previously said he wanted to do, but still fretting over his previous occupation. Until Satan and Baba Yaga are resolved he won't be able to really figure out what he wants for himself because the responsibility to save the world is too deeply ingrained in his being.
>>282675766I think he's a borderline case. He's still as strong as an angel and has an angelic form because he's genuinely benevolent, and, with knowledge of god's plans, is going forward with actions he knows are part of god's plans and will fulfill god's plans, and he is doing it in good faith trying to help people.But at the same time, he thinks he knows better than god and is hoping that he'll somehow be validated.Basically, he only kind of half-fell because he's too retarded to rebel properly. He's like a soldier who exactly follows all the orders you gave him in a good faith attempt to do what's good for your country, he just expects that somehow this will result in him getting promoted ahead of you and you having to agree that you were a dumbass and he was right.
>>282673063>I feel like keeping that part out is a red flag after she should be no secrets now.She IS a demon anon.
>>282671132>std ridden slut
>>282671354part 7 is the last, just like the 7 deadly sins....
>Wrath is the lastwill Mr. Priest go nuclear again?
>>282680129The worst sin is love, the 8th part will be the last
Marriagetoxin has an anime by Bones film now.Is there any hope that this series gets an anime as well? Which studio?
>>282679558>We still have at least one more part leftWe've got at least 8, after Josh has gone through the 7 sins it will be time for the seven virtues as he builds himself back up and becomes the most he can be.
>>282675766angel is a state of mind,he is still "pure" >>282679407i hope for his bad ending
>>282680480This sells really poorly, unless digital sales are massive the best we can hope is a Berserk 2016 type of anime
>>282680552this can get a black torch i t got axed with 19 chapters and still got an anime announced
>>282680552The sales are fine, no?Doing above 2.5k is considered good for Jump+ manga last I checked.
>>282680552>cgi asmodeus and leviathanWould be very funny to witness
>>282680590Haven't seen the latest chart but it's usually just a bit above the stuff getting axed
>>282680600Even with a good budget they'd use cgi for designs as complex as those
>>282675848>>282679668>>282680551Small detail, but it's implied that the reason part of Asmodeus turned back into angel in chapter 1 is because she understood on some level that Josh's preaching was right.
Needs more sex chapters
>>282674391You can confess your sins and be forgiven, as long as those sins aren't major ones.
>>282680552Didn't Marriagetoxin and this one sell around the same? And I doubt they're that wildly different in digital sells.
>>282671635>>282672756An old pagan deity that stuck around after Slavs converted to Christianity. Has traits of totemic spirit, mistress (and embodiment) of the forest and guardian of the entrance to the underworld. Maybe intended to be a priestess who either cremated the dead or did initiation for those who come of age (which involved symbolic death and rebirth). Morally grey, because nature also is, but can help out if you ask right.Lives in a hut on chicken legs. There are apparently a lot of versions why it's "chicken legs" but apparently one of them is that ancient Slavs built these huts placed on tree stumps, made their entrance face the forest and put their dead inside as a rite. Apparently, the stumps kinda looked like chicken legs. The other version I heard is that the foundation beams of some huts were "smoked" for preservation, and Russian words for "smoked" and "chicken" just so happen to be very similar, so people eventually got confused and changed the word.The hut on the chicken legs in most fairy tales stands on the border of the forest, and can follow verbal commands and actually turn around so that the entrance either goes into the forest or outside of it. This is apparently supposed to be representative of a place on the border between the land of the living and the land of the dead.So, basically, it's complicated and old mythology bullshit that nobody is really sure about because nobody wrote it down. It doesn't make sense because it's not meant for you, it's meant for children two thousand years ago so they don't fuck up their initiation rites.I'm just saying what I heard from randomly reading about the topic, so maybe I messed something up. I'm not a mythology expert, and this shit is apparently pretty vague anyway.>but how does this relate to ChristianityNo idea. Knowing the usual pattern with those old pagan gods, either the Christians said she was a demon and made her extra evil, or that she didn't exist and it was all nonsense.
>>282681098If there is hard information and nothing is sure about them can it really be said that Christianity made the myths more evil?
>>282671057Imuri you worthless whore
>>282671123>I can fix her
>>282671210Yeah its not ending on a positive note
>>282681264I think it will. It'll just get dragged through the mud first.I'm hoping Imuri gets BTFO, Josh finds a meaning of love that isn't desperate attachment to a treacherous demon, one that he actually feels good about and that gives him purpose and strength, and the one who experiences a love that makes them give up everything, in the end, is Imuri.Of course, what I'm EXPECTING is that Josh does find a better sense of love, but it's a borderline platitude, to god or mankind or something, and Imuri gets off basically scot-free.
>>282681213No idea. I think there was supposed to be pretty good circumstantial evidence for other pagan spirits that stuck around becoming more evil, but I'm not an expert on this kind of stuff so it's not like I know for sure. I just retell what I heard from random sources which I don't even remember mostly. And from Wikipedia.
>>282678691they are evil in the sense that they willfully embody the sinful traits of man despite knowing better, and seek to defy god with a true understanding of the futility of such action.Lucifer is definitely the most evil in this situation, and honestly the whole thing about him having glimpsed the literal predetermined future and still trying to change it is a bit retarded. but it does make him a more interesting character than just hating humans because he thinks they are inferior beings.
>>282682366Lucifer wouldn't feel so retarded if we had a small backstory showing him trying to change and failing all the time so he went to try something else instead even if its unlikely to suceed
>>282682366>but it does make him a more interesting character than just hating humans because he thinks they are inferior beings.All of the interpretations have been fantastic. Between these and the very specific fapping scene, it's really clear which authors know their material and which stagnate at "gluttony = the villain is fat"
>>282678691The last part is funny for me because in the extra chapter notes, there are miracle researchers in the church who arrived at the same conclusion, that demonic powers are the same as the miracle and they started to go full in denial if I remember correctly.
>>282672750He's a self hating faggot.
>>282673634The best kind of wrath.
>>282674036Disgusting.
>>282681213That's normal.Jewish myths downgraded the gods of their competition into demons like what happened to Leviathan and Beelzebub.This happens because they are monotheists so they can't just add new gods (bellow the main 12 of course) or say that this other god is another name for one of their gods like what Romans did (like saying Ra is Zeus) before they adopted Christianity and started making even weirder things like adding Saint George killing a dragon or Saint Marth taming a Tarasque.Nowadays is even more weird due to how Lainamerican nations adopted Christianity and we see an ever bigger hotpot of myths and religions in those lands.
>>282673634I'm surprised he didn't immediately bumrush Earth the instant Josh lost his virginity. Wasn't that the whole plan since chapter 1?
>>282674227They ruined Africa by brainwashing them to be against contraception.
>>282675172God's love is very selfish as stated by Lucifer. I wouldn't call him good then again a God transcends things like human ethics.>>282675340He's a fucking cunt multiple times throughout the old testament. His punishments constantly cause collateral damage. His demands are unreasonable and cruel. He's a self righteous prick too. The new testament's hippie shit doesn't erase his past sins.
>>282683852He hasn't lost his powers yet.
>>282684050Lucifer hands typed this
>>282671635john wick
I could turn Charlotte good by putting a baby inside of her.She's thirsty for stronger men like Vergilus and I work out regularly. I would have an easy time wooing her. Then we fuck and I get her pregnant. Then, with a baby inside of her and her flowing with maternal instincts, I convince her to settle down with me and get married. Boom. Witch redeemed.The sex wouldn't even count as a sin because I'm doing it to redeem a witch so God wouldn't mind.
>>282683852His plan might not even be to conquer the world or whatever. What we do know is that he's attached to Lillith (who's currently trapped in Cocytus), and considering that he specifically sent a Lilin to target Josh, whatever plans he has with him and Imuri are related to the situation with himself and Lillith, whatever it is. We also know that he's trying to find a way to go to Earth, but he can't for some reason (despite the rest of the demon lords being able to).Whatever his plan is, it involves the Baba Yaga's schemes somehow.
>>282680251At this point, the only thing that can really make Mr. Josh go nuclear is Imuri herself. His friends are doing fine, the Church isn't trying to force him to fight, and he's doing all he can to foil Vergil's schemes despite losing most of his power.The only real bad thing that can happen to Josh is if his relationship with Imuri sours, or something happens to her (again). I really don't think the latter would happen, considering we already had Josh lose his shit over Imuri almost dying and I don't think the manga would be touching on anything new by having Josh go through the same scenario again.However, the manga does talk a lot about how love alone isn't enough to solve everything. So Imuri and him breaking up would be a great way to bring some of those points up again.
>>282672750>>Though it's interesting that Dante has the perspective of "these peopleDante's logic is that even if the exorcists Verge killed were shit, they were still useful in stopping demons and making Josh's burden lighter.
>>282685614Honestly what I think is gonna happen is when the Baba Yaga situation explodes, the Church is absolutely not gonna be able to contain it which leads Josh to join the fight of his own will. Imuri will probably lose her shit and try to keep him from fighting again, their argument gets messy and they end up breaking up over it.
>>282670960Reminder that it's Marco's fault Josh got semen demon'd so please thank /our/ wingman.
>>282686583Strict autists playing right into the hands of social manipulators they're intending to oppose is a constant of human history.
>>282670852>>282673063Yeah, this seems too simple for the two "precious things". I doubt "power" because Josh never really coveted his own strength and "virginity" is too hackneyed, even for Lucifer. If I had to guess one, it'd be "purpose" because of how restless Josh is, and how unfulfilled he feels being told he's "doing all he can" by keeping out of things and passing on info anonymously.>>282686214A schism in their relationship feels like it's going to happen - Josh is clearly happy, but not content and Imuri isn't going to like anything that isn't her "live happily in isolation" plan. Baba Yaga will be the trigger, but his call to action will be something like one of the old crew gets captured (at least Marco) as a sacrifice for the ritual and he feels the uncontrollable need to intervene no matter how powered-down he is. The mass-slaughter will follow afterwards.If Josh is going to be a Christ parallel, he's the one most likely to die between him and Imuri because he'll need to eventually. Though my money is on Marco getting killed next as part of a redemption arc.
>>282672176>That's debatable.
>>282677074>That bottom panel.Will Imuri actually have a demon form? I know she's depowered but the manga has teased it way too much with that "Put art of wings and a tail in the background behind Imuri" thing. Shit was even in the sex chapter. I just think she would be way hotter if she looked the part she's playing.
>>282679049She wanted to know if Sarah would reject her if she tried to rape her, therefore affirming that Sarah would never be hers. She regrets not being able to affirm it, but does so through El Josh. Similar but different. She didn't want submission, she wanted confirmation.
Imuri doesnt deserve father, nor any kind of forgiveness.
>>282678874Afterlife, dude.Although she won't be there, so uh...
>>282670811Henry bro...
>>282689348Mommy!!!
>300+ repliesI don't recall this manga being that popularIt must have been the sex chapter boost isn't it
>>282677319There’s going to be a fallout and they'll be forced to break up but they'll get together again in the end. I can smell cheap drama like this miles away.
>>2826915653 chapters in a row of the main villain getting everything she wants has anons angry and confused.
>>282671244Would it have made a difference though? I'd guess the main issue here is that Imuri is an unholy demon who rode cocks for hundreds if not thousands of years.Eloping with a demon is already a sin that can’t be taken back.
>>282691781Angry and Confused erections>>282691565Also having a hundred chapters is enough of an achievement that more people are willing to give the series a shot.
>>282671337>Couldn't he have officiated the marriage since he's a priestNo, because a priest can't get married. In order to be wed he'd have to renounce his priesthood, thus lose the ability to officiate it.You also cannot marry a demon, so the union would be illegitimate either way.
>>282675766Lucifer mentioned that demonic and angelic power are two sides of God’s love. Presumably the reason why he still keeps his powers is because he truly understands this fact and thus doesn’t twist them into demonic power like the other lords seem to do.
>>282691565Sex is too rare in jp fiction, having it in a shounen series instantly gives it more attention.
Reading this really once again comfirms the fact that men are hopelessly pathetic creature in front of women...
>>282694219Vergil became a hopelss pathetic creature in front of men though?
>>282670912>Meat and potato stew>Japanese foodWhat the fuck is he talking about?
>>282695568
I still can't tell whether Imuri will have a good or bad ending.
>>282694233>Vergil UTTERLY LOST to cockGrim...
He was only 18 years and several months old and got groomed by a Thousand year old devil whore and you're cheering you sick fucks!
>>282695866>/a/>cheering for SHITmuri?????
>>282694219Why would God create evil women if he didn't want good men to fix them?
>>282696065Evil women made to be corrected
>>282684050I never got the reading that God was being petty in the OT, If anything I'm disappointed more people didn't get turned into salt.
>>282695866>and you're cheering you sick fucks!It's obvious that things aren't going to go well for either of the two. It's just a matter of waiting for the hammer to drop on their "idyllic" romance here. I'm not happy Adam here shacked up with Imuri though despite how obvious an outcome it is.
>>282695568Maybe he meant Nikujaga?
>>282671318>>282671354>is told to his face his plan will fail>goes full throttle with it anywaythis nigga
>>282696936That is a very realistic and common scenario
>>282675073Yeah, lots of jews basically tried to make them conform to traditions. Peter himself was told by God that these traditions were not needed.
>>282696936but enough about Lucifer
>>282691783Yes, God forgives all sins.
I'm waiting for the inevitable "get out of my life you lying manipulative harlot" scene
>>282695759I'm leaning towards what this anon suggested >>282691760
>accidentally wrote the heroine as an evil whore>how do I make it so that the pair can come together as equal?>option A: force drama where the mc misunderstands and pushes the heroine away with cruel words aka now they ars both wrong so the relationship is equal>option B: force drama where the heroine will be a lying whore as always but this time she lies for the sake of the mc at the cost of her own happiness and thus her sins are forgivenThing doesn't look good for Josh
>>282699559Please understand, being raised by a very conservative christian left him painfully unprepared for understanding when to reject a girl who is clearly for the streets.
>>282699651>when to rejectHe keeps coming back for more. The guy clearly enjoys it
>>282699874Abusive upbringing -> abusive relationships. Many such cases.
>>282696542It was nikujaga.
>>282699559>>how do I make it so that the pair can come together as equal?I don't know why you guys have so little faith in the author. She delivered with Asmodeus being an absolute monster and didn't try to make her a "le abused victim", which is more than what I expected from a manga after what Oshi no Ko did with Airi. I'm sure the manga will address how fucked their relationship is soon enough, and Josh would have to really digest just how much shit she's done to him. And what better time for that to happen than the Wrath Arc?
>>282703322Oh, make no mistake, the author has earned enough cred with me that I'm eagerly looking forward to the rest.Even if I end up not thinking she stuck the landing, I'm confident I won't feel like I wasted my time reading, which is much, much higher praise than I'll afford basically any modern series.
>>282704159Yeah, absolutely. Josh and Im*ri getting together is the one thing I don't like, and considering how great everything else about the manga is, I'm confident that the next time the author addresses the matter I'll leap out of my chair and scream "KINO" at the top of my lungs.And barring that, I'm really excited to see what the Baba Yaga's up to, and what Satan's keikaku is ultimately leading towards.
>>282699559>accidentallyAnon, I...
>>282703322The fact that Imuri handily won the character poll above Josh mindbroke a lot of people.My sticking point is that Imuri has been around the second longest and she hasn't been slapped by reality yet. She's a love demon that hasn't held a successful relationship in millenia, but she had no problem calling Belphegor a whiny bitch because he didn't handle his nutso wife murdering their nephilim child the right way.Having it shown to her that her shit stinks too is long overdue.