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This was all created with AI.
Would you be okay with AI being used in the industry?
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>>>/g/
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>>282688578
>posts nonsensical slop that's impossible to follow
"ai has to be taken seriously guys"
try harder with your bait next time
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GOOD MORNING SAAAAAAAAAAAAR
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>OP thought this looked good
I guess given the choice of series in the video it makes sense.
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>>282688679
You act as if most new anime isn't just slop already. Studios would 100% use this technology if they are just going to outsource to other countries.
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>>282688578
Sure, why not. AI can mass produce shounenshit for subhumans and children to free up talented animators to work on worthwhile stuff.
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Fuck off already
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OPM S3 probably would look better with AI than whatever JC Staff is about to shit out next wekk
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>serious
lmao
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>>282688679
It does need to be taken seriously, just not the way you're thinking
It needs to be treated as a very serious threat to artistic integrity, true expression, and the well-being of the human soul.
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>>282688868
>It needs to be treated as a very serious threat to artistic integrity, true expression, and the well-being of the human soul.
NOOOOOOOOOO, GO BACK TO CEL ANIMATION TECHNOLOGY IS LE BAAADDDD, ANIMATORS MUST WORK 18 HOURS A DAY ENSLAVED IN A TINY OFFICE AND DEVELOP TENDINITIS AND PTSD JUST TO HAVE BARELY ENOUGH MONEY FOR FOOD SO I CAN WATCH MY ANIMESLOP THEY CAN'T USE MODERNITY TO ADVANCE AND MAKE QUALITY AND WORK CONDITIONS BETTER BECAUSE OTHERWISE WHO WILL BUY MY $100 SHITTY FURRY COMMISSION ON SHITTER
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>>282688816
I don't know either, fuck off. If it's pertaining to animanga, AI discussion is allowed.
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>>282688904
I got into this knowing that most people aren't going to get it, but it's still disappointing how stupid your strawman is
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>>282688578
I saw the original twitter thread and retweets, and there's a bunch of comments saying as long as it comes out faster i'm fine with it. What on earth is wrong with these retards
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>>282688954
>animanga
You have to go back.
AIslop is not welcome here, never has been.
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>>282688985
Adult fans of shounen adaptations are not the same kind of human as the rest of us.
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>>282688991
>AIslop is not welcome here
Quite literally is, seethe in impotence.
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>>282688991
>AIslop is not welcome here, never has been.
gen alpha is consuming AI non-stop already, you lost, studios will adopt AI and you WILL have to watch AI genned anime KEK
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>>282688985
Sadly normalfags don't really care about slop.
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>>282688733
Talented animators will be paid pennies for dogshit when studios can just pump out shonenshit for the masses and make more without spending anywhere near the amount they used to
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>>282689013
You say that like you've somehow won
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>>282689013
I won't have to do a goddamned thing you fucking retard.
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>>282688997
This newer generation of adult newcomers has been so disappointing, do people genuinely not even give just a tiny bit of thought into what they consume nowadays.

>>282689016
I sound like a fag but it really is depressing seeing how the future is going to end up being like where no one cares at all about anything beyond the surface level
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>>282688578
>This was all created with AI.
It shows.
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>>282688578
Holy fuark the new trailer for dbs 2 look sick!
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If AI allows studios to cut costs on menial work and focus on core frames, then it's a benefit. AI antis just assume (actually may not believe it themselves, but they sure will argue so in bad fait) every studio is going to make everything with AI, when it'll just be used for frames that don't require professional work. Too many people will notice if it's all done by AI and will rightfully chimp out, at least with how much babysitting AI still needs at the moment.
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>>282689017
Artists will always pursue art for the sake of it
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>>282689073
Nah I get you.
I showed a Coca-cola ad that was made with slop to my mom and all she said was
>Oh a computer made that? How neat!

My sister using chatgpt to gen shitty "stories" using my nephew's names and thinking it's the greatest thing ever and so on.

It's a fucking losing battle. What fucks me up is seeing people on fucking 4chan unironically cheering up the absolute destruction of human creativity and artistic expression.
The thought that in 10 years I won't be able to buy a book in a bookstore without knowing if it was slopped just depresses me to no end.
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>>282689112
AI will eventually reach a point where cost of compute pales in comparison and the frames will look indistinguishable with regular anime. Leaving out the conclusion and focusing on the diminishing quality of animes in the next 5-10 years maybe is the dumbest argument on this thread
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>>282688578
Wow, it's shit.
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>>282689148
>AI will eventually reach a point where cost of compute pales in comparison and the frames will look indistinguishable with regular anime
And you know that how?
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>>282689148
And it's a dumbass argument studios won't pay attention to, fortunately. They already outsource frames to third world shitholes utilizing slave labor, I'd rather they move away from that anyway.
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>>282689114
They will
But what about the people who won't?
What about the ones who are convinced by the notion that AI is art that they should avoid the path of artistry, never knowing what has been stolen from them?
What about the people just living in the world, not artists but still just as human?
AI is not an enemy of artist's paychecks, it's an enemy of humanity
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>>282689136
>The thought that in 10 years I won't be able to buy a book in a bookstore without knowing if it was slopped just depresses me to no end.

This happened to me recently when I wanted to help out a creator I was following. It was so blatantly obvious that I couldn't believe this was happening. The zoomers and everyone else will basically grow up in a world where the norm is AI generated creativity. That is beyond depressing
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>>282689226
People think that Ai isn't massively disrupting the workforce as well, those people who have a passion for art will end up struggling even harder and probably will never reach their true potential either lmao. consooming AItards in this thread alone are just part of the massive issue surrounding all of this acceptance of a dogshit future
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>>282689227
How far beyond depressing? Is it enough to get you doing something about it?
The people who are bringing this world should be skinned alive.
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>>282689216
Yeah I mean either way, the end goal is very clear and it's prob closer than imagined where the vast majority of studios will simply generate it wholly and maybe hire a fraction to clean up the frames or use them solely for key moments. At that point, animation as a whole dies out since there's no future left for it.
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>>282689266
I absolutely despise the "consoom" mindset
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>>282689287
The tech giants and Ai grifters will cash out and survive through whatever hell they create for the masses. Normies and even a good chunk of people on /a just from this thread alone are fine with AI invading every facet of their lives so it's just a losing battle.
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>>282689322
Some battles I would rather lose than sit idly by and do nothing to prevent the loss
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>>282689294
>At that point, animation as a whole dies out since there's no future left for it.
What the fuck kind of leap is that lmao, it won't die, it'll just be in the hands of the individual. Learn how to work with prompts, and you'd have what you want to watch in anime form. Still think we're 15-20 years minimum out from something that good, though. I just don't understand the need to disregard user experience completely with these arguments, everything is about the artist me me me the recipient is not important. If you want to create art, do it for art's sake, your time to make money off of it is going away and there's nothing you can do about it. But seething at people for wanting something that has the potential to give them exactly what they want to view with near endless permutation is just... nonsensical. You're railing against human nature.
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>>282689322
They'll care once they start paying the data center power bills.
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You know what I gotta get this off my chest, not that I think it'll get serious replies or if it'll even be read:
Generative AI is unironically the worst thing to ever happen to artistic expression and just art in general.
Let me try to get my thoughts in order...
Every time new technology is introduced that helps in the creation of art, something is lost.
In general I value more a mangaka that draws on paper instead of using a drawing tablet and Photoshop.
Just like I value a painting more than a picture.
But it doesn't mean that those new forms of expressions are bad as each have their own unique qualities and ways for the artist to express themselves.
A BIG part of enjoying art is knowing that there was effort involved. That someone spent years, maybe even decades, to get to the point where they can do what they're doing.
Effort, talent, pain, suffering, inspiration.

But with genAI there's nothing. You write what you want. You get something. Oh wow amazing. If that's good enough for you that's okay, but it's not for me. I want to see the peculiarities of an artist on their trace, their usage of colors, even their errors.
I want to read something that's outside of my bubble, from someone that lived a completely different life.

(cont)
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>>282689457

And it's not only something that affects art. Even fucking porn. You know those old shitty naked shops where people would add breasts and nipples to pics of celebs? I enjoyed it when I was fucking 13 and was a retarded teenager with too much hormones in my body. After I grew up I realized how boring that was.
And now I feel the same with all that AI porn people keep posting everywhere. A shitty 240p naked picture of someone real is infinitely more exciting to me than the hottest genned woman you can gen at 4k.
A doodle by a drawfag anon is also hotter than any slop you could post. The moment I find out that a pic is slop I lose my boner.
>durrr but that means you got a boner over AI so you lose hurrrr
oh wow you "won" by tricking me, amazing, great way to completely miss the point. Just like I'd lose my boner when finding out a naked picture of someone was just photoshopped, I lose my boner when I find out something isn't real or wasn't made by an actual human being.


and that's that, I'm sleepy as shit it's fucking 5 am and people won't even care. The world is running towards that shitty future where everything is AI, the vast majority of people(normalfags) don't give a fuck and I don't know if I want to keep living like this anymore.
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>>282688578
nibba stretching his balls
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>>282689443
This is just the mindset of the consoomer. Pure slop for the sake of having a fun little toy because you yourself need it. Just amazing. No concern for the actual human beyond just the arts that will see jobs vaporize from all fields, rising electricity prices because of data centers, and rising surveillance from AI powered tech. All because muh anime I can finally realize my dream of making something! Unreal lmfao
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>>282689443
>t'll just be in the hands of the individual. Learn how to work with prompts, and you'd have what you want to watch in anime form.
>But seething at people for wanting something that has the potential to give them exactly what they want to view with near endless permutation

Like look at this shit.
There are people that write and read this and think this is a good future.
A future where all art you experience and "consume" is tailor-made for you sounds like actual fucking hell to me.
>Hey siri make a 24 episodes anime based on my tastes that I can binge this weekend
just sounds dystopian as shit. It reads like one of those retarded Linkedin posts by C-level grifters.
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>>282689227
>>282689457
>>282689322
I feel your pain, anons. The whole point of AI was to get robots that do the mundane shitty jobs for us, not make human creativity obsolete. This isn't how it was supposed to go at all.

>>282689539
>All because muh anime I can finally realize my dream of making something!
Except for that AI-powered surveillance tech saying "Oh no, you can't do that, that's too lewd/violent/etc." These people are fucking fools if they think the wave of censorship and control engulfing the world is just going to leave AI alone for some reason.
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>>282689539
You're a buzzword spewing faggot so I'm hesitant to even engage with you seriously, but against my better judgement: no, my purpose isn't to "realize my dream of making something", it's to have an experience of my choosing. You'd have to be delusional to believe that's something people don't yearn for, and even more delusional to expect people to give that up for some artists' egos. I'm not without sympathy, but if you truly want to create for creation's sake, you can still do that. You just won't be able to make money off of it, at least eventually. Until that point, people will still be able to tell the difference since most AI generated stuff is noticeable.
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>>282689443
>What the fuck kind of leap is that lmao, it won't die, it'll just be in the hands of the individual. Learn how to work with prompts, and you'd have what you want to watch in anime form. Still think we're 15-20 years minimum out from something that good, though. I just don't understand the need to disregard user experience completely with these arguments, everything is about the artist me me me the recipient is not important. If you want to create art, do it for art's sake, your time to make money off of it is going away and there's nothing you can do about it. But seething at people for wanting something that has the potential to give them exactly what they want to view with near endless permutation is just... nonsensical. You're railing against human nature.
How can you write all that and think this is a good thing?
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>>282689457
It's not just about effort, it's about choices
Every aspect of a piece of artwork bears the mark of the person who made it, a little fingerprint left by their soul as they thought about what to put there and for some reason, conscious or not, they drew that line because even as insignificant as it is, it meant something.
AI has no meaning. It has no soul.
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>>282689556
>A future where all art you experience and "consume" is tailor-made for you sounds like actual fucking hell to me.
It sounds dystopian because you're framing your argument with negative buzzwords, you mong. You're just worried you won't be able to make money off of it anymore. If you guys would just admit this in your arguments, you'd get taken more seriously, but you try to portray yourselves as the suffering artist archetype and it doesn't match what you're saying. If you want to create for creation's sake, just do it. AI won't stop that.
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>>282689626
No need to be overly aggressive when you've been called out. You literally said you wanted to make an echo chamber of your own prompts because you feel that that's the ideal world. That sort of ethos entirely misses the point of why people engage in communities of art especially one like anime. It's the most delusional sort of take and you're defending it altogether because it soothes your ego specifically.

>Until that point, people will still be able to tell the difference since most AI generated stuff is noticeable.

It's already almost there considering we're just foregoing copyright law entirely and training on every single anime out there. I don't know how you're being this disingenuous but your passive attitude disgusts me frankly especially when you try to lie and say that you have sympathy.
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>>282689679
No one here is making money off of art, you're arguing a strawman. No one wants a world where the works they consume are devoid of the very essence of what art is with the human touch. The fuck are you projecting your insecure creator dreams onto lmao?
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>>282689626
>Consoomer tries to convince us that having no sense of meaning and value is actually good as long as he's entertained
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>>282689699
Genuinely some of the most braindead gaslighting I've seen from a guy who you can tell wanted to make something but never tried to. Shit is fucked so I guess he wins in the end though kek
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>>282689679
>You're just worried you
Why is it that EVERY fucking time you faggots act like only artists are worried about this shit?
I can't draw a fucking stick figure to save my life.
I'm tone deaf as shit. And I can't even write well as shown by my posts here.
Again it sounds like fucking hell because I want to see what someone ELSE made.
I want to read what someone ELSE wrote.
I want to listen to what someone ELSE composed.
Maybe I won't think those things I've experienced are 10/10 but that's okay because it's the point of fucking art. I don't want a computer to use my search history and a prompt to gen something that's "tailor-made" for me. What is the fucking POINT of that?
Fuck off you fucking retard and kill yourself.
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>>282689679
>you try to portray yourselves as the suffering artist archetype
No we don't
I wouldn't give a shit who's making money off it if I didn't think it had some long term effects on culture
My arguments have been entirely philosophical
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>>282689679
They hated him, because he was right.
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>>282689681
Now you're just making shit up and shifting the goalpost. Anime is not high art, and by extension this applies to other types of content. Not everything is going to be appreciated with the creator in mind. I don't go outside, experience nature, and get mad as fuck and shit my pants that human didn't make it. When AI gets to the point of being able to generate an experience with prompt and advanced-enough anticipation that's of high-enough quality to replace or even exceed any human creation, nobody is going to care anymore. Experience in itself is not a sin. Again, you're just mad you're not going to be able to make money off of things soon and being dishonest about that.
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>>282688578
>This was all created with AI.
I can tell.
>Would you be okay with AI being used in the industry?
Depends on how it's used. It's not ready to do full character animation yet. It hallucinates too much. Any backgrounds it does need to be checked over by a human to look for and fix weird fuck ups.
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>>282689744
>Again, you're just mad you're not going to be able to make money off of things soon and being dishonest about that.
Is that your entire fucking (wrong) argument, again?
Kill yourself.
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>>282689679
>>282689443
Why do you people always try to frame the anti-AI crowd as artists? Why do you always assume everyone who doesn't like the death of creativity is an artist? Are you seriously so fucking lost in your narrative that you can't comprehend anything else? No wonder you're so in favor of AI.
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>>282689715
It'd be funny, but it's really just kinda tragic. I've seen so many people give up on creativity and start shilling for AI, and they always make the most braindead arguments for why I should too.
No Bernard, I'm not afraid of the Terminator, I'm saying this because you're throwing away your soul chasing a hollow shell of a dream you gave up on because you haven't figured out how to deal with failure.
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>>282688578
fuck off shill
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>>282689756
It's not my entire argument, it's just the part that you keep getting mad at to the point of ignoring everything else I'm writing. My main point is that wanting to experience something should not bend the knee to artist ego. I've already said I'm not without sympathy, but you can still create things if you want to learn how, same for anyone else.
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>>282689779
I keep seeing the same shit every fucking time.
Every time they go
>KEK ARTISTS BE MAD
>LEARN TO CODE ARTY

and when it's on twitter they usually have a certain flag that I can't talk about here because you know
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>>282689752
Don't give them an inch man. No AI, ever.
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>>282689803
Kill yourself
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>>282689803
>Ego
Wow you're even dumber than I thought.
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>>282689738
Lol, Socrates also thought that books were bad and people would weaken their memory if they kept writing them. AI is the future and needed so humanity can progress. Just accept it. Also it is funny you are atheists and then suddenly start talking about soul, transcendence and this kind of bullshit. Art isn’t an entity, it’s applied natural sciences and maths, like colors, depth, geometry, etc. This is why AI is easily able to replicate it.
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>>282689803
>ego
what are you even TALKING about retard?
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>>282689823
>>282689830
Looks like I was right on the money, actually. Only a matter of time before you go full columbine on someone because they say they like AI.
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>>282689803
>It's not my entire argument, it's just the part that you keep getting mad at to the point of ignoring everything else I'm writing.
Probably because you're basing it on nothing but your assumptions, and keep repeating it even when shown and told that it's wrong. It shows that the rest of your argument is meaningless, because you don't fucking live in reality.
>My main point is that wanting to experience something should not bend the knee to artist ego.
And then the rest of your argument is shit like this. What the absolute fuck are you talking about?
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>>282688578
I have yet to see AI generated video that is not full of completely incoherent movement
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>>282689805
Until the bubble collapses it's not going away.
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>>282688578
I wanna use it to make Gon and Killua spicy moment
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>>282689744
>I don't go outside, experience nature, and get mad as fuck and shit my pants that human didn't make it.

Alright he's just trolling

>Again, you're just mad you're not going to be able to make money off of things soon and being dishonest about that.

Again with the projection fucking kek
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>>282689862
>says retarded shit
>"What the fuck are you talking about?"
>Ah-HA! That means I was right!

>>282689880
Oh how I long for that day.
>b-but the economy!
Fuck it. It's breaking down no matter what.
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>>282689880
>>282689902
Sadly it's not really going away.
Just like the dotnet bubble didn't destroy the internet. It MAY slow down all the hundreds of "AI" startups that keep popping up every day, but the genie is out of the bottle. Things will only get worse.
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>>282689866
>because you don't fucking live in reality
Says the anti-AI chimpanzee. All of your arguments are based on how AI is right now, and a year ago it was based on how much shittier AI was then. It's getting better and it'll catch up to and exceed human skill unless the nukes go off or the sun novas or whatever the fuck, you're ignoring reality if you aren't seeing this inevitability.
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Nigger
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>>282689842
Socrates was wrong, but he wasn't as off the mark as you might think.
The future needs a highly disciplined culture of maintaining and regularly using low tech ways of doing things and low tech places and times. It'll be essential for our sanity and stability.
Art is one of those spaces where it's essential that AI not be used.
Also who said I'm an Atheist?
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>>282688578
There is nothing interesting, skillful, creative, meaningful, or exciting happening in any of those cuts. It's just brainless shounenslop. Please leave and never come back.
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luddites lost
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New containment boards that 4chan needs:
>/ai/
>/ko/ and /cn/
>/wsj/
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>>282689931
Oh look the "you just think AI is bad at drawing" argument
Try actually reading, we hate it for much better reasons
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>>282688578
Get back to me when AI can outdo pregsex of this caliber (it's mere tweening animation)
https://files.catbox.moe/2jzhxv.mp4
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>>282689954
Using buzzwords as a shortcut to avoid thinking doesn't actually get you to the same place thinking gets you
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>>282689971
No, my argument was that you're the one who isn't facing reality. Speaking of not reading.
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>>282688578
>Steals every single cel/frame those series have to offer
>This is the best it can do
Embarrassing
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>>282689984
"Luddite" is not a buzzword, it's a very apt descriptor. Don't get mad at us because you didn't pay attention in history class.
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>>282689995
Then you suck at writing
But I suppose you'll have AI do that for you too instead of improving that skill
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>>282690019
Thank you saar, will consume my slop on vibes or altmans new ai slop generator
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>>282690019
Not even close
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100% the people crying about it are the same people as the horse and buggy people. The same as the fabric loom people. The same as the candle people. The same as the telephone people. Basically, if you don't adopt this shit you will fall behind.
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Great it seems like THEY got a hold of this thread
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>>282689931
>All of your arguments are based on how AI is right now
>you're ignoring reality if you aren't seeing this inevitability.
See? Unaware of reality. You don't even know what the people you're talking to are saying. It's not even 2deep or something, we're being pretty clear about it, you're reading these words and seeing something else.
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>>282690033
Again, since you can't read, I'm more interested in reading things than writing. You fags can't decide whether your argument is "you just don't know how to create things and want AI to do it for you!" or "you just want to consOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMM". It's very easy to see you're being dishonest.
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>>282690053
Prove that I am
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>>282689984
you still lost, we AIchads Will be enjoying our AI Android waifus, watching our own AI animes, making our own AI dream games, while you will be seething and weeping all day about how people can’t comprehend “true art”. KEK
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>>282690053
when did this board get filled with jeets
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>>282690068
Are those mutually exclusive ideas?
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>>282690074
>he thinks he's part of the zuck altman club
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>>282690074
Yes I know you'll be very cozy in your pod with 24-7 VR drinking Onions recycled from your shit and feeling very superior about your decadence as the neurotoxins prevent you from noticing the cramps in your legs and back
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>>282690088
"I like AI because it has the potential to give me an experience I want" is wholly separate from "I like AI because I want the satisfaction of creating something". Are you high?
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>>282690074
In the very near future your power bill is going to be higher than your fucking rent due to AI data centers making the price of electricity skyrocket. Forget about an AI waifu, you won't be able to keep the lights on.
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They already did an AI Anime called Twins Hinahima and it looks like rotoscoped dogshit.
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>>282688904
im still not watching ur ai youtube content farm ranjeesh
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>>282690168
that was before sora 2. it's night and day now and seeing the /g tards here in the thread it's gonna become the norm
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>>282690135
They aren't separate, but even if they were that doesn't mean they can't both be true at once.
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>>282690098
yes I am
>>282690131
>Onions
HAHAHAHA how to spot a shitter tourist
>>282690157
>what is nuclear fusion
yes, humanity will stop progressing in energy generation, kek I forgot you luddites know nothing about technology
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>>282688578
it looks awful
I feel similar when I look at mobile game ads made by third worlders
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>>282690252
Brother unironically faded energy stocks and cited nuclear fusion
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>>282690252
>yes, humanity will stop progressing in energy generation
There is a movement for that, yes. Windmills cause cancer, green energy is woke, we need more coal plants, etc.
And buddy, I'm not talking about decades from now, I'm talking a year or two. Probably less.
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>>282688703
This.
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>>282690252
>>Onions
>HAHAHAHA how to spot a shitter tourist
What are you talking about, what's he talking about
What is this
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>>282690315
We've got a very significant number of communists who want to stop all nuclear because... well it's incredibly stupid and self contradictory, but the long and short of it is because they need excuses for imposing communism
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>>282690305
This is the worst it'll ever look.
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>>282688816
Ever thought about doing that...without using racist slang? That you got from /tv/ or whatever..it's that simple.
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>>282690574
That other anon forgot that the word s.oy turns into onion on 4chan
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>>282689457
"Technological progress" has always been about transhumanism and making real humans obsolete so that the ruling class can safely depopulate and replace the human race with robot slaves. Their religion is money (capitalism and industrialism) which itself is a form of symbolic transhumanism - separating man from nature, from the ability to do *meaningful,* *autonomous* work. You're now just seeing this in action.
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>>282688816
Keep going, AI is not allowed
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>>282690693
Oh
I forgot too
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>>282690731
The spirit of transhumanism is absolutely not what you described, but it's likely where shit's heading if nothing cuts us off. The faggots in charge are making sure to do as much centralizing and censorship of the reality of things as possible.

>>282690735
Nice janny application
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>>282690731
Define capitalism
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>>282688578
This slop only appeals to subhumans.
>>282690766
This. Such people don't really deserve to live. They are just soulless husks.
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>>282688816
Reminder the 4cuck administration gets paid from a lot of sources to allow gayops to run rampant.
AI is no exception but the /a/ mods in particular are in gook payrolls and some are literal crunshit employees.
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>>282690766
I've gotta start using that reaction image
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>>282690693
Why are tourists trying to decide what is/isn't allowed on /a/? Spamming cool new buzzwords from /tv/ is way worse than some thread on AI and makes your side look bad. What are they even doing out of /pol/?
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fully automated hellscape space capitalism
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>AI workflows are gonna be so good, bro
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>>282690889
>Why are tourists trying to decide what is/isn't allowed on /a/?
Lot of moneyed interest in making sure AI doesn't succeed. In the worst case for them, it ruins their plans for fully dictating what people can consume. They're not from here, they have no idea how this place works, then they get filtered like dweebs. Not to say there isn't a very loud anti-AI presence on here, but they're more pure in their reasons to be angry.
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>>282690917
Tbh I just think ai is pure slop.
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>>282688578
this looks like shit and everyone who thinks the industry is going to use AI in any serious capacity is retarded because 1) it will always look like shit compared to actual animation and 2) you can't fucking copyright AI generated content and Japs are insanely anal about their intellectual property rights.
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>>282690924
That would be one of the pure reasons I was talking about, yes. Still doesn't change that AI is a threat to censorship. Pending you have the means to locally run whatever.
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>>282690917
Wow, you don't understand the anti AI sentiment at all
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>>282688578
Holy shit. It's as good as today shonen animes!
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>>282690952
>Still doesn't change that AI is a threat to censorship.
lol
lmao even
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>>282690952
>That would be one of the pure reasons
It's not really a pure reason, it just looks like garbage , that's the entire problem.
>Still doesn't change that AI is a threat to censorship.
How?
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>>282690954
>>282690963
Nice arguments. Even me saying that people have non-selfish arguments against it didn't deter your retardation.
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>>282690960
You are giving it too much credit. dandadan is a really fucking garbage anime but it had that cool morphing scene that had human soul in it. Something AI can't replicate
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>>282690942
doesn't matter when altman has the US gov by the balls. Also japanese companies are notorious for their usage of AI to cut costs wherever possible. They will use AI to produce slop for pennies like the pigs here arguing for more AI want.
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>>282690992
Tbh I think it's more likely for ai to be used in video games(where it has already been used) than animation. It's weird how nobody bring up the fact that there are already games with ai art on the market.
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>>282690984
AI is one of the most powerful tools for censorship that has ever been made and everyone with an interest in censoring has their hands in AI
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>>282688578
It's inevitable, no matter how much the retards here screech and whine.
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>>282691007
>everyone makes fun of your slop
>p-please stop screeching
We will continue making fun of your slop forever lol
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>>282690965
>globalists want to ban some type of content
>utilize payment processors to bully creators into not making certain content by cutting off their livelihood
>run local model that bypasses prompt and generation censorship, get banned content globohomo doesn't want you to see
Doesn't help with censorship of things actually happening, but that's not what I was talking about.
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>>282691013
You may as well make fun of the waves crashing against the shore. Just as sensible.
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>>282691003
They will 100% gen anime regardless. Anything in the name of capitalism so it's been a good run. I'm not even being sarcastic here when studios are not making much. The incentive to cut their employees altogether and leave a few is guaranteed in the near future
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>>282690984
You still haven't answered >>282690965 bitch. How is it a threat against censorship? If all media was actually ai generated the suits would still use ai to censor the media they produce.
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>>282690766
Please change horse urine to cow urine tyvm.
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>>282691004
Yes, certain applications for it are used for censorship, just not content generation. If a user has the power to generate what they want without censorship, that's a threat to censorship efforts.
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>>282691028
Always bet on the laziness and addiction for slop from humans. At least my nvda shares will leave me in a better place than most of the filth
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>>282691004
We can dictate what sources are and aren't represented and everything you ask AI to produce has a digital signature leading back to who made it.
The AI hellscape will finally kill the publics access to information
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>>282691035
Chill out, faggot, I had to type shit out.
>>282691018
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>>282691045
They won't get that power though
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>>282691018
>Doesn't help with censorship of things actually happening,
At least you admit it yourself. It will not impact industries that are against generating stuff.
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>>282691047
Yeah, money is the most important thing of all, after all, you jewified idiot.
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>>282691030
Do you think all future media will be ai generated? Movies, books, video games, anime, manga etc.?
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>>282691030
Anon, 1735man was a catastrophic flop off the mere fact the director insulted anime, the idea that people would actually buy BDs and watch streams of AIslop in enough capacity to recoup costs is comical.
And that's ignoring in japan most authors have control and overslight over adaptations (unless they get really shafted by jew contracts, which is rare) so the idea of them allowing AIslop is even more comical.
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>indians think this looks good
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>>282691028
And? People still make fun of shonentards even if they've invaded the board years ago. In the same vein, people will continue making fun of your slop again and again.
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>>282691065
There's no point in arguing about that, it just devolves into a nu-uh battle from both sides.

>>282691068
I was talking about the censorship of fictional content that you'd have to be an idiot not to see happening right now. I explained I was not talking about censorship of news. Can you just... argue honestly for once? You're fucking exhausting.
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>>282691073
Money is what led to this hellhole of a situation where a few tech companies will dictate how the rest of humanity goes. I hate it too but the absolute degenerates that openly consume and praise the AI as it gnaws away at our society is even worse. These brain dead fucks and especially the /g tards deserve to be cucked to the highest degree.

>>282691083
A large portion of them and mainstream studios will pop up to pump out inconceivable amounts of new vapid IP/stories altogether. Especially in Japan and China. I don't think people are aware of just how cucked creatives are in those countries. Generative AI is used by corporations galore and you see it everywhere on the streets too in those countries. Of course they'll use it because it's cheaper than hiring actual artists/creatives and you can pump out the type of shit that appeals to the mainstream faster.
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>>282691117
>There's no point in arguing about that, it just devolves into a nu-uh battle from both sides.
Why do you think that? I'm not trying to argue with you here, genuinely why
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Saitama could beat Goku in one punch regardless of which powerlevel Goku was in during the fight. If he couldn't then the series title would be a lie, a damn DIRTY lie.
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defending AIslop at this point just reeks of desperately trying to stop the bubble from popping honestly
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>>282691117
>I was talking about the censorship of fictional content that you'd have to be an idiot not to see happening right now
And how will ai help with the censorship of media you low iq retard? The slop that you will generate still won't be the exact same thing that has been censored and even if it was that's a thing that already exists and it wouldn't be improved if ai was used to make anime.
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>>282691088
You do know most of the manhwa studios that are responsible for the top grossing manhwas right now in Korea are all using generative AI right. It's quite literally becoming the norm there. Studios like Toei are already using generative AI as much as possible. There are multiple one shots in various magazines i've seen that use AI nowadays too which is even more disgusting. I have no faith in the fandom of anime, especially when you see the bumbling tards here defending it as well in their things they consume.
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>>282690864
This is pretty obvious with the AI threads on /v/
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>>282691129
>. I don't think people are aware of just how cucked creatives are in those countries.
Tbh the west is even more creatively cucked when it comes to comics/animation(and live action as well with capeshit number 436764764).
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>>282691162
>top grossing manhwas right now in Korea
This is not saying much.
Reminder worst korea's currency is in such shitter gutter that spic third world shitholes have a more valuable currency than them.
It's so bad that a million in gook monopoly money is literally just 710 bucks in burger money, not even a joke.
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>>282691129
It's funny how you go from stating that the faggots running the tech companies are the issue, then jump straight to blaming AI as a whole out of nowhere. AI is a tool. A powerful one that, in the wrong hands, can make everything gay as fuck for everyone except the chosen few. It can also, in the hands of the individual who knows how to use it, destabilize and give individual people more power than they've ever had. It's double-edged, and it's inevitable, so why focus on that instead of the kikes trying to make sure people can't utilize it?
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>>282691179
It should never be used
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>>282691179
>lso, in the hands of the individual who knows how to use it, destabilize and give individual people more power than they've ever had
but how? the power to generate shit that they can't imagine or draw? is it that hard to grab a pencil and give life to your thoughts? back in the day laziness was punished by death, nowadays it is celebrated.
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>>282691162
>fandom of anime
We are no longer in the 00s, anime doesn't have a "connected fandom", but if you look at the most popular anime forums/social media people are generally against ai. There are probably a lot of discord servers that are pro ai but I have never used that platform.
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>>282691144
You say it's not going to ever be that powerful, while the trajectory I see is pointing to the opposite. It's all prediction, and every debate about it I've had on here has been utterly worthless.

>>282691154
>And how will ai help with the censorship of media you low iq retard? The slop that you will generate still won't be the exact same thing that has been censored
Loli anime gets banned, I generate loli, censorship bypassed. It doesn't matter if it's the exact content some artist was going to produce, it's still a type of desired content that I can bypass a ban for. I'm really trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here, but you'd have to be a total retard not to be following what I'm saying.
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>>282691179
Because the tech companies will always have the upper hand in this scenario and all other scenarios. What part of they control the data centers, the underlying tech, and access to the best models at any given point do you not understand? It's always in the wrong hands even if you get a nice mini version of it. You think this is fucking goliath vs david or some shit?
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>>282691232
>censorship bypassed.
lol no, its missing the soul the original author would have done
we both know just like image AIslop, video AIslop will be used for porn of obscure characters few people even know exist, let alone draw porn fanart of, let alone of your ultra-specific niche fetish combination
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>>282691227
I generalized, and yes the communities I see usually overwhelmingly abhor Ai in their anime/manga but it doesn't change the fact that the future zoomers and generations before us are living in a world where AI will just be accepted as the norm. That's the part with no solution
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>>282691232
>Loli anime gets banned, I generate loli, censorship bypassed.
That's my point you retard. Hell you don't even need the anime to get censored , you can generate loli porn even before that. You see the discussion was about ai being used by anime studios which would not help anyone. What you are describing is there to help the normal people that already use Ai. Do you now understand why someone can be against ai being used by studios? I don't give a fuck about what you subhumans generate in your free time.
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>>282691204
Are you seriously saying AI is always going to be limited to content generation? It's already being used outside of that. Is everyone as retarded as you during these hours?
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>>282688816
>>282690735
Kek, the absolute state of /a/ luddites
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>>282691280
>during these hours
do please google what hour is it in india right now
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>>282691251
>That's the part with no solution
There might be a solution. Zoomers are so technologically illiterate that when the technology fails, they won't be able to understand the old code that was used to build it and they will fail to repair it. Soon we will be in a new dark age.
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>>282691232
Ah, no
I don't claim AI will never be that powerful
I claim individuals will never be allowed access to that kind of power
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>>282691280
this thread was about content generation. are you illiterate or just pretending? can you use your small brain before writing a post?
>>282691287
yet indians are the biggest consumers of ai.
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>>282691170
Yeah I take that back, Americans are actually fucked because of capeshit and also how healthcare works in this country. You can't chase your dream when you're getting fucked with ridiculous fees and the only solace is employment with an actual employer.

>>282691174
Culturally, their equivalent of manga is hitting, and reaching worldwide phenomenon which is the main point. What was the last hit Solo leveling?
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>>282691305
>>Culturally, their equivalent of manga is hitting, and reaching worldwide phenomenon which is the main point.
i have been hearing this "chinkoids and gooks will overtake japan in 2 weeks bro for real this time" for a literal decade
>What was the last hit Solo leveling?
that was their last hit mind you, they basically have nothing after this, and solo gookening already got largely forgotten
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>>282691246
>lol no, its missing the soul the original author would have done
Oh, this again. I definitely shouldn't have given you the benefit of the doubt, you're not interested in arguing on anything outside of your unhinged dogma. As long as you enjoy being you, I guess.

>>282691261
Again, changing the subject. AI being used by studios being bad does not mean all use of AI is bad. And don't you dare try to fucking say that's not what you were arguing. Same for the other guy, I hope being a miserable fuck gives you satisfaction in life. I can't imagine it's all that fun, but who am I to say.
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>>282688578
AI can assist with some background elements but that's the most I would tolerate. But even so, from a solid stance I say no to AI in Anime. Because it's a slippery slope of much responsibility and commitment is getting offloaded to a machine.
>Screenplay idea? Throw to an AI, it'll give us ideas that were taken and collected from thousands others before
>Storyboard? Let the AI do it, it will just copy the framework of other shows
>Animation? The AI rental is cheaper than hiring hand drawn scenes
Every anime that is using AI should include a disclaimer right at the beginning that it was completed with it, allow full transparency if you're willing to provide something that is regurgitated.

As a whole, AI posts on 4chan should be banned outside of /g/, because why the fuck would you want to substitute content and discussions with AI? In fact, every post that declares or is caught to be generated by AI should meet a month-long ban at least because what's the point of discussing something if you let a machine do the talking for you? Nevermind that the AI will provide answers that will just cater to YOU instead of being factually correct or even providing proper sourcing. They already have rules against bot usage, AI generated text is just using an automated algorithm which is what bots do.
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>>282691337
Finally, a good post. AI was created to assist the end user, not to take over their roles.
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>>282691354
Yeah but we all know that's not how the majority of companies, corporations, who inevitably ripple effect into all of our lives through what we consume or do are going to do. Which is the crux of the issue that most of the AItards don't seem to believe
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>>282691331
I'm fine with being Mr "unhinged dogma", it's concerning that you've decided to be Mr "just entertain me"
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>>282691337
just make an AI board, futaba channel has one
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>>282691315
I don't think Korea will overtake Japan creatively but China probably has the best chance. Japan has legacy behind it which probably stands the test of time.
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>>282688679
It's more coherent than a lot of modern shonen. I'd pull of the One Piece Gear 5 webm if I had it saved.
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>>282691381
This is why I'm against AI entirely
Because I know it won't stop
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>>282691337
>As a whole, AI posts on 4chan should be banned outside of /g/, because why the fuck would you want to substitute content and discussions with AI?
You're fucking retarded, that's not what the rules say about it. If it's anime/manga related, AI discussion and images/videos are allowed, everything else is taken care of by existing rules to make sure generals and content flooding doesn't happen. And if you're against AI generated images being on here at all, well boo hoo nigga, you're just an extremist.
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>>282691331
>Again, changing the subject
How am I changing the subject? The discussion began with people complaining about ai being allowed on /a/. Ai discussions on /a/ are ALWAYS about studios using it. If it' about your personal use it has nothing do with /a/ to begin it, you fucking retard.
>, I hope being a miserable fuck gives you satisfaction in life
Just because I dislike this slop doesn't mean that I don't enjoy plenty of stuff in life. Maybe you should expand your horizons beyond just generating ai shit.
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>>282691413
He doesn't want to expand his horizons, the AI is supposed to expand past his horizons
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>>282691337
>AI posts on 4chan
That remark has a double sense considering that 4chan is filled with ai generated posts.
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>>282691405
god how do you live acting like such a cuck for your AI slop porn. Actual jeet
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>>282691438
>no argument, better call him a poo
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>>282691405
The rules also say
>You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
yet here you are
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>>282691456
Nta buuut that’s fair. If you act like a brown you should be considered one.
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>>282691394
Chinkoids can't even compete in gachaslop anymore, what makes you think they can compete in real mediums?
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>>282691458
>no argument, better fantasize about him being underage
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>>282691456
Can't help what you are. Out of the millions and millions of hand crafted work out there, actively seeking out generated slop at the hands of tech conglomerates is truly amazing. No words encapsulate it more than a cucked jeet
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>>282691477
Zoomers are the main consumers of ai though
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>>282691473
>I don't agree with what this guy says, better call him brown
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>>282691474
if anything it makes me realize the japanese can get away with subpar dogshit and fully genned slop in the future because FGO is on top. That shit is beyond unredeemable in the landscape of gacha games today
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>>282691483
but my obscure characters that only 5 people know doesn't have any porn
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>>282691478
Please don't
I know it's inevitable but no
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>mfwI get to take part in the Butlerian Jihad in my lifetime
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>>282691496
Do people unironically fap to genned shit? Thats gotta be the most subhuman shit ive heard of and it would explain a lot why people here are defending AI slop.
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>>282691490
Well it works like this: browns love ai, india generates the most ai slop. Using logical deduction someone can come to the conclusion that you are most likely brown. Do you get me?
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>>282691478
from the looks of it, your bot will just talk to israel bots and poojeets
a literal waste of electricity
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>>282691515
Kek!
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>>282691506
nah, people gen porn just to watch it chastely
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>>282691512
>logical deduction
The fact that you believe that you're thought process is logical is more than a bit concerning.
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>>282691500
>>282691478
There are already multiple bots on /vg/ and /v/. People either ignore them after a while or respond to their repetitive shit with repetitive shit of their own.
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>>282691504
As soon as possible please, this shit is already bad enough
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>>282691529
>can’t point out any flaws in my deduction
Isn’t this ironic?
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>>282688578
No. AI needs to die.
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>so mad about AI that you start NSFW posting and threatening to unleash bot spam on the board
Brainiac hours.
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>>282691554
You don't know what irony is. Please just stop.
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>>282691605
Are you ok dude? You sound a little mad.
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>>282691568
> Brainiac
who?
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>>282688578
>Would you be okay with AI being used in the industry?
Yes? It's inevitable. It's literally a labor saving device.

No one will care when it's evolved to the point where it looks good. If anything, you'll all be elated because anime generally looks like dogshit these days and has never really been animated especially well.

Eventually you'll be able to walk into the holodeck and tell the Enterprise to make your bespoke anime (or hentai if you're Geordi). Quit crying like a stuck pig because it's new and different from what you know now.
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>>282691638
>s never really been animated especially well.
That's good. I would take RoV over 99% of animation.
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>>282691638
>/tv/ retard doesn’t realise that his industry is fucked as well
I hope you will like consuming nothing but ai generated live action movies and tv from now on
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>>282691638
>Eventually you'll be able to walk into the holodeck and tell the Enterprise to make your bespoke anime
manga too?
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>>282691638
>If anything, you'll all be elated because anime generally looks like dogshit these days and has never really been animated especially well.
I already don't pay or even watch most anime with very rare exceptions, this would change little to me.
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>>282691638
The problem was never that it's new
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>>282691663
Great? At least it won't be another terrible fucking sequel that nobody asked for.

>>282691672
Shit you can do that now if you're dedicated to quality control.
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>>282691638
>Eventually you'll be able to walk into the holodeck and tell the Enterprise to make your bespoke anime (or hentai if you're Geordi).
i have been promised this "2 more weeks bro, this time for real" for as long as i have been alive
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>>282691680
>Great? At least it won't be another terrible fucking sequel that nobody asked for.
And will you able to appreciate it as much as you do old cinema? Another anon has explained it way better here >>282689457 but ai shit will never have the humane parts of art.
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>>282691686
I mean you can compare the quality of AI generated images in the few years it's been available. The shit has grown by leaps and bounds, and honestly, I think there's tons of room for growth in terms of efficiency and user input.

>>282691698
I dunno, maybe? Who the fuck knows?

It's a tool you stupid monkey. Right now we're using rocks and sticks to hit things. In ten years, we might have actual hammers.
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Almost half as good as VR... Any day now
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I, for one, absolutely need AI to gen my genshin porn.
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>>282688816
Modern anime is putrid dogshit however.
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>>282691748
No you don't, we're neck deep in porn of gachashit characters.
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>654x360
I'm not watching that.
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>>282689182
It's quite similar to the evolution of computers. In the 60s, a single computer was in the size of a small room, nowadays the most crucial components for them to work can be stored in a single, small chip. That small chip has more computational power than over 1000 of those giant computers, and it's ever evolving.
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>>282691794
Of note however, that some computer games made 10 years ago look far better and required far less power to run than most modern games.

It's not linear progression forever.
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>>282689308
Consoooom mindset is literally /a/ staple though.
>oh you have to watch 250 animu and read 300 mango to develop a taste
You just lack self-awareness.
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Okay whatever it's still shit now. AI is about to get hit by a fucking "Potential Tech" meme or something I swear.
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>>282691773
There still is some good indie stuff and even the shitty anime is better than ai slop.
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>>282691806
Because those devs are retarded indians.
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>>282691716
>I dunno, maybe?
Then you are a soulless subhuman that doesn't understand anything. Enjoy your garbage.
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>>282691855
ok
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>>282691851
Yes. You think you're not going to get retarded indians doing quality control on your """anime"""?
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Nips will consoom slop whether it's being made by AI or not, so this point is moot.
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>>282691851
>retarded indians.
They are also the people most interested in this slop though
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>>282691773
All modern media is putrid dogshit , Idk why you single out animu
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>>282691866
You do know indians are not the only ones who're deep into AI right? Chinks, Americans, Euros, basically all the countries who want to stay on top and evolve are very much deep into it. Just because indians are mostly shit at the job doesn't mean others are like that either.
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>>282691870
Idk. There have already been complaints about vns with ai generated art.
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>>282691885
>You do know indians are not the only ones who're deep into AI right?
But they are the ones that produce the most ai slop
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>>282691872
Not really true.
https://hai.stanford.edu/news/global-ai-power-rankings-stanford-hai-tool-ranks-36-countries-in-ai
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>>282691919
>2024
Stats for 2025?
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I don't think this "car" stuff is ever going to catch on. Look how often those things break down.
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>>282691807
Why do you think I'm one of those?
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>>282691885
The very reason people are using AI for any reason is because they are "shit at the job" of whatever the AI is producing for them.

And here's the thing, for any 1 type of person who is using AI to make something maybe even mediocre, there are going to be at least 1000 indians making complete and utter slop. Which is fine, since at the end of the day the only work that matters is the good stuff. But if you think I'm going to sit through tons and tons of slop before I get to whatever good stuff AI can make, if any, then you are mistaken. I already judge what I am going to watch based on the cover illustration in the first place, if I whiff even a single molecule of AI I am going to scrap it for something that doesn't waste my time.
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>AI shilling
>Gook shilling
>Chink shilling
>/v/
Shithousery all star
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>>282691927
This doesn't exactly show it (yet) but it does showcase how AI is becoming more acceptible by general population.
https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/2025-ai-index-report
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>>282691947
Not what this is about
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>>282691493
Only very few gacha is "redeemable" the rest are either as bad or even worse than FGO
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>>282691807
Wasn't that more about people that make sweeping generalization having a basis for their credibility?
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>these retards think AI won't be used by artists themselves to churn out tons of art in their own art style
Naivety is a poison.
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>>282691493
Gacha in general IS not redeemable
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>>282688578
Looks like a MAD/AMV
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>>282691974
It won't be in their own style for long
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>>282691949
/a/ literally prides itself in eating more shit than the other normalfags.
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>>282688578
Unrionicaly looks so garbage
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>>282691394
China will not overtake Japan creatively because their creativity is also declining.
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>>282692008
So exploring the medium instead of watching/reading the same shonenshit again and again is "eating more shit"? Why are you even here?
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>>282692008
I'm aware
I did say I hate the consoom mindset, didn't I?
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>>282691947
Cars didn't need a desperate billion dollar astroturfing campaign to keep their bubble from popping, for a lot of people not dealing with horse poo was enough of a selling point.
It also ignores the automobile industry right now is in the shitter due to enshittification getting to the point of selling you horsepower subscriptions to use the motor of the car you already bought.
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>>282692027
Maybe the medium is shit if whatever it offers is bad 95% of the time.
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>>282692014
It fits with shonen
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>>282692063
Then every medium is shit. Also 5% of anime and manga would be more than just 250 anime.
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>>282692027
>t. watches derivative isekai/romcom/moe/idolshit every season and calls them peak
You're not better than anyone else just because you're more prone to eating shit.
>>282692031
Most of /a/ is like that, like the fag above.
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>>282692071
Spirited away is not shonen, it's kodomo and it looks way better than all ai slop.
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>>282692099
Not for long.
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>>282692091
>ou're not better than anyone else just because you're more prone to eating shit.
Are you retarded? I don't even watch seasonal stuff outside of some exceptions. There are plenty of good old anime but you are probably just a braindead zoomer so I don't blame you. I am just sorry for your generation
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>>282692112
Sorry ai slop is just soulless.
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>>282692121
I would say that AI has more soul than an average asian, and it's soullessness has nothing to do with whether it will look good or not.
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I still don't get the "providing people with an equally shit or even worse solution/products whenever something become shit" mentality. Like, we have a huge old backlog for every media, it should be enough for our lifetime unless consuming is the only thing that you do
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>>282692115
Some exceptions being moeshit right?
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>Damn, someone is pointing out my product is shit
>Better just take a dump on everything else and say everything is bad.
AI niggers should die.
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>>282692154
No, usually movies or stuff directed by people I like.
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>>282692150
That's their idea of utopia
Laying in bed forever, watching anime on their phone
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>>282692099
Ghibli slop is basically shounenslop but for le mature adults.
Otherwise normalniggers wouldn't be spamming AI images on that style on kikebook and twatter.
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>>282692145
An average asian can make an indie manga/anime which is 1000x more soulful than anything ai could make.
>and it's soullessness has nothing to do with whether it will look good or not.
Soulless stuff can literally not look good. It will only impress equally soulless people.
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>>282692154
>moeshit
dbspic
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>>282688578
You lost, and will continue losing.
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>>282692179
It’s not slop since it actually has soul and it’s not for adults(except maybe for a few of Takahata movies) but for children/the whole family.
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>>282692183
1000x 0 is still 0
AI has no soul
Or perhaps even negative soul
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>>282692196
You say that like you're somehow winning
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>>282692112
We talking centuries here or like what?
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>>282692198
>since it actually has soul
hahahahahahahaha
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>>282692186
That word really hurts you doesn't it? Moeshitters make fun of shounenshitters for having no standards and yet you niggers consume some of the lowest common denominator garbage out there.
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>>282692179
>>282692198
Just to give you an example, the painting done by the forest lady in Kiki delivery service was actually painted by a group of children from a school. This is true soul but soulless drones can't appreciate it.
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>>282692209
I mean yeah it does. If you say it doesn't, then that says more about you.
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>>282692183
>average asian
>making anything soulful
Kek nice one. Why do you think AI is so popular with asians?
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>>282692212
Should've figured at least one of you anti-AI chimps was a dbspic. You talk just like one.
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somehow doesn't surprise me that AI sloppers are dbspics and ghibli jeets
it really feels i should be surprised but i'm not
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>>282692209
Read >>282692217 and watch Kiki, all the gorgeous crowd shots, all the fantastic colors. if you can't appreciate that you are a subhuman that doesn't belong here. Gouge your useless eyes out.
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>>282692205
You sound afraid anon.
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>>282692228
>and watch Kiki
I don't watch goyslop for goycattle, so no thanks.
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>>282692220
Why are you on a board about japanese media if you hate the japanese so much?
>is so popular with asians?
Mostly popular with chinese and indians.
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>>282692222
Hey maam I'm not the one who slurps any kind of slop just because it has cute girls in it.
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>>282692237
You are brown.
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The real problem is that with the universal access to AI tools, it exposes the fact that the vast majority of people have no creativity of their own to provide as input.
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>>282692240
because westoids have been desperate to pull a colonialism on jp media for literally 2 decades and to this day have been unable to properly do so, and instead are currently getting raped by THE japanese shounenslop in the box office instead
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>ghibli seethe out of fucking nowhere
It keeps getting better. Why are you even on here if you hate so much nip shit? Oh wait, you're probably not from here.
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>>282692231
Nah just pessimistic about AI. Haven't seen anything from it yet that can create anything new and interesting.

Look at OP, like he posts this thing that he thinks is supposed to be good, but even from the thumbnail you can see how the quality is complete trash just from the compression artifacts. And THAT is what is supposed to be wowing me?
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>>282692246
>He's already projecting.
Reminder spics aren't white.
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>>282692253
Japanese stuff would be moe anime, miyazaki is a well known westoid cocksucker culturally despite his comical tsundere outbursts about it.
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>>282692271
Oh, so you're seething at westoids. Definitely brown.
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>>282688578
This is literally no worse than current OP "animation"
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>>282688578
1. It doesnt matter if im okay with it or not. It doesnt matter at all if i virtue signal and whine about it 24/7, my opinion wont change the path of 'progress', and neither will the 'efforts' of every autist on this board and r*ddit put together, where OP should go back to.
2. I am okay with AI art for the same reason im okay with AI-skynet. Burn it all down, if there's anything worth salvaging, the AI's will preserve whites and white asians while genociding the rest of us, if the globohomo bottom feeding scientists successfully create true-communist AI, then we'll all be killed, them first, and i couldn't be happier about it.
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>>282692284
if you think warm piss' animation is bad, remember it can always get worse (and the fact it will indeed get worse)
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>>282692240
Is this how you cope?
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>>282692284
>than current OP "animation"
You should watch moeshit if you think this is the worst thing out there.
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>>282688578
It'll be perfect for the typical battleshounen and other lowest denominator garbage. Most normalfags only care about bright flashing lights anyways.
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>>282692324
Cool, doesn't change the fact that you're brown. You'll be the first to get shipped off to fight for Israel, anyway, so congratulations I guess? Welcome to the anglosphere.
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>>282692336
Japan went from "haha funny curry brown man" to "get these subhumans out of my country" in a month flat thoughbeit.
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>>282692356
Who cares what the average cuck there thinks? Immigration will happen and is already happening.
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>>282692372
have fun watching mountains of jeet corpses that nobody persecutes as a crime lol
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And so the pajeet goes mask off on his antijapan propaganda.
Which I hope at least is paid because doing glownigger work for free is legitimately pathetic.
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>>282692380
2 more weeks?
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>>282692261
>spics
you mean the biggest fans of shonenshit?
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>>282692393
You said that 2 weeks ago about japan turning against immigration.
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Will this thread also reach 1000 posts
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>>282688578
Tranime cannot get worse than it already is.
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>>282692393
Keep pushing your luck, everyone has their limit and some countries aren't as cucked as the US and are absolutely capable of paying people to skin you fucks alive.
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>>282692400
>shonenshit
You mean moeshit?
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>>282692372
They made the prime minister step down, so I guess quite a few people care.
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>>282692400
That would be pajeets akshually.
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>>282692212
you’re brown lol
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>>282692406
>they whine on the streets IMMIGRATION IS DONE
lmao
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>>282692434
But enough about average moetranny.
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Slop made by human hands is worth infinitely more than any mediocrity "made" by AI.
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>>282692452
>no u
brown dbspic keek
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>>282692452
this nou really doesn't work when most shounenslop generals (particularly the dbspics one) spend more time whining about moe anime than actually talking about their particular series the general is supposed to be about
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>>282692421
If only bongistan would do the same. I do not envy the friendos over there.
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>>282692409
CHADnime is lready better than your shitty cartroons, tourist.
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>>282692478
bongs don't seem to understand only force makes (((elites))) step down or at least chill for a few months
the reason the jp pm stepped down was not due to peaceful protests, but because he knew pushing his luck would just get him shanked or abe'd
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>>282692409
>ai shitters are zoomers from other boards
That explains a lot. Are you from /v/ or /tv/? Anyways you media is equally if not worse place yet you constantly seethe at anime.
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>>282688578
Please never cook again
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>>282692504
1 ghibili movie is better than every western cartroon ever made lmao
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wonder what bad news for westoids and/or good news for japan are gonna drop this time
the upticks on antijapan demoralization spam always coincide with that sort of thing these days
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Great, sharty groomers are here now, too.
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>>282692313
Answer the question. Why are you here?
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>>282691378
fuck off tourist tranny retard
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>>282688578
This might make gay goyslop trannypan shits out bearable.
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>>282691378
TIL other chans exist.
Thanks for the heads up bro.
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>>282692551
>the tranny zoomer is still samefagging
Lol, you will never fit in. We all hate your western capeslop.
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>>282692517
>muh tranimegoyslop is better than anything
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>these responses to a long deleted post
somebody come get their bot
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>>282692528
>implying they weren't present from the start
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>>282688578
Why do people who had bottom surgeries hate AI?
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>>282688578
>>282692490
>>282692548
Imagine if /a/ had jannies
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>>282692583
Who knows. The screeching about "tranime" didn't start until recently, and that's 100% what they do.
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>>282688578
I can't wait to watch anime made by indians.
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>>282692571
Yeah it’s better than your troon cartroons that are only calarts garbage and capeslop. No wonder your capeslop industry failed so hard lmao. Ghibli movies actually have effort put into them.
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>>282692597
/a/ does have jannies though, the entire site does.
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>>282692620
>Ghibli movies actually have effort put into them.
maybe like 10 years ago they did
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>>282692633
They always had and ever the worst ghibli movie is better than all of your cartroons slop
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>>282692626
Holy fucking based.
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>>282688578
this is fucking awful kill yourself
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>>282688904
There are arguments you could bring in favor of AI, but it improving the working conditions of the people in the industry is definitely not one. No way even the most dedicated AI shills believe this.
I'm sure corporations will look at this new technology to make anime cheaper and faster than ever and use the profits to improve the lives of their employees, right?
>before AI
studio makes one anime per season, animators are overworked and underpaid
>after AI
studio makes five anime per season, animators are overworked and underpaid
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>>282691638
>anime generally looks like dogshit these days and has never really been animated especially well.
why are you even here
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Third worlders and people with 100IQ already feel like AI. Their output is of the same quality. It doesn't matter.
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>>282688784
Luffyku...
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>>282688784
>AI can copy DBS smear frames
owari da
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Your pajeet "jokes" aren't funny, stop embarrassing yourselves.
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>>282688578
It's going to be used anyways.
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>>282688679
If you really want see nonsensical slop look at what it was making one or two years ago. It'll be pretty much perfect within a year.
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AI would work well for transition/inbetween frames to remove QUALITY
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>>282691099
>t. Moetranny
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>>282692196
IDK, looks like AI shills are winning.
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>>282688578
Sovl
And of course, luddites will always disagree
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>>282692692
AI is far more verbose and literate.
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>>282688578
Looks like shit, to be honest. It gets worse the longer you look at it.
Not just the weird animation, the direction is also bad.
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I don't think we have the technology to go back to cel— but we should
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>>282692825
And this is the worst it will ever look.
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>>282692836
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kpLhpQ173M
It's possible, if you have people who care and are willing to put in the work.
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>>282692836
wait until the 22nd century >>282691090
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>>282692799
How it soul when it looks like garbage, retard?
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>>282692726
They aren't jokes, indians are legitimately subhuman.
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>>282692748
>It'll be pretty much perfect within a year.
i have been hearing this since the AI bubble started to inflate like 5 years ago at this point
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>>282692975
ugly things can have soul, chud
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>>282692950
>>282692923
Watch the works of Mirai Mizue, he does complete traditional animation and he does it even more high effort than cel animation by not using any layers.
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>>282692995
Meant to quote >>282692836 as well.
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>>282690766
Major copium, tinfoil hat. Earth isn’t flat kek
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>>282692923
Exactly this. This is the exact kind of soul that ai can't replicate. Even if all big studios switch to ai you will always have indie productions that are passionate about the art itself and are not obsessed only with turning profits.
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>>282693036
This was posted by curry hands.
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>>282688578
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR
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>>282692409
Every damn time. Every person that shills ai turns out to be an anime hater. That's why everyone laughs at you.
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AI would make better quality posts than you. You will be replaced.
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>>282693077
4chan is not my job though. Do you think it will replace the 4chan staff?
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>>282693052
>t. sea banana picker desperate because his only source of dollars will get cut
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>>282693092
>sea banana picker
SEA fags worship AI slop as well though.
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>>282688578
why should i waste my time on this
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>>282693084
AI can't enjoy gayops money while ERPing all day.
They can do the ERP part at least.
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Why do these AI animes have the feel of fan animations made by spanish speaking people?
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>>282693107
not like your time is that precious anyways
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>>282693112
same level of talent
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>>282693112
Probably because that's what it was trained on.
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>>282693116
it is
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>>282693169
you browse 4chan
your time is worthless
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>>282693112
Brown = NPC. Everyone eventually realises this. Only the Japanese and the Westerner are ensouled
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>>282688578
looks like One Piece. good job!
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>>282691686
>i have been promised this "2 more weeks bro, this time for real" for as long as i have been alive
NTA, but we had probably the biggest leap in graphics for /v/idya from 1995 to 2005. But after that? The last 20 years we had almost nothing. Only marginal improvements since then. We are nowhere near actual "photorealism that is indistinguishable from live-action camera recordings". Even just something like Raytracing, which supposedly makes the lighting reach photorealism levels is still pushing most recent GPUs to their limits and the price is for games to be developed at an utterly glacial pace. What happened to VR? Basically dead, no one talks about it.
It remains to be seen if AI will also just be a failed brekathrough, or whether it will somehow be the catalyst to push all those other stalled techs forward as well instead.
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>>282688578
That AMV Anime has talent or something is so much better than this slop.
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>>282691396
>>282692284
>>282693217
all me btw
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>>282688578
>We need to have a serious discussion about AI
Ok. It's dogshit.
Discussion over.
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>>282691396
It's even worse than that gear 5 garbage
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drawfag here, i fucking wish ai were so amazing as people pretend. you can do some shit with it, but not high quality shit, and definitely not the shit you need the most. it's a tool just like photoshop, it will help but not do your job and you still need good art skills if you want good results. (the poor artist in >>282693036 should not beg but be actually in charge of correcting all the perspective and scale errors that a trained eye sees instantly)
if good results are not needed and people are content with the flawed stuff ai can generate by default it's a problem with people's education, not ai. but poor education will result in public accepting slop in all fields of life, not just art. some of those fields being way more vital.
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>>282693280
It's not "just a tool" and you should never use it
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>>282692614
They're already outsourcing to India as the next low-cost place to get animators. AI might at least prevent that.
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>>282693342
seek help, you will end up in a mental institution
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>it's great and so much better than tranime made by humans
>okay it's shit but it'll improve
>you're just a jealous luddite who'll be out of a job
>I'm not brown, YOU'RE brown
Always the same posts every time
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>>282693368
Ai slop animations will be produced by indians as well.
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>>282693376
Your advice has been noted and discarded
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>>282693036
embarrassing post consider castration or suicide
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>>282693342
yeah, sure, i will draw every leaf in the tree just like turner or shishkin were doing it, otherwise i'm not worthy. it's a tool, good for some minor tasks (and bad for most important ones).
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>>282693368
>AI might at least prevent that.
If they are outsourcing to india why wouldn't they outsource the ai animation to india as well?
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>>282693582
Yes yes, call me a Luddite if you must
It's not about technology, it's not about it being new
AI is something that's uniquely dangerous to the human mind
You should never use it
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>>282693676
When you're outsourcing to get in-betweeners, and you get a box that in-betweens for you, what point in outsourcing?
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>>282693712
4chan is dangerous to the human mind, you should never use it. What kind of retarded argument is that? HRT melted your brain cells and you are devoid of basic reasoning and cognitive capabilities.
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>>282693829
For someone to give instructions to the box. Why go through all that effort yourself?
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>>282693834
False equivalence
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https://files.catbox.moe/wiqjfo.mp4
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>>282692799
TRVKE
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>>282692799
>>282693889
Samefag troon.
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>>282693834
>Uniquely dangerous
This isn't about ordinary risk
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>>282692825
So did the very first movies, should they have refrained from making movies until the tech was good enough so they wouldn't look like shit? is stageplay worthless because of the limited availability of special effects?
>>282693901
Cope, there used to be a similar sentiment about photoshop, and digital art in general, but it's now completely gone from the mainstream because everyone realized how much time it saves. Ten years from now the anti AI crowd will be compared to the people afraid of refrigerators from last century https://newsletter.pessimistsarchive.org/p/the-war-on-lab-grown-ice
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>>282693847
0 arguments
>>282693944
I can claim anything is uniquely dangerous.You didn’t give a single plausible argument to back your statement though. No one is preventing you from doing your art or preventing people from appreciating it. Make something people want to see and you don’t have to worry about AI.
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>>282693998
>but it's now completely gone from the mainstream
It still exists on 4chan and aren't you yourself against cgishit? Anyways what does that have to do with your nonstop samefagging you retarded troon.
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>>282694020
How many fucking times do I have to tell you idiots this has nothing to do with my ability to have my own art be popular
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>>282694021
>it still exists on a honeypot website where 90% of traffic is shills and bots

CGI isn't the problem, Japan's economy was on the brink of overtaking the US' during the golden of anime, animators were truly passionate back then because they could afford to, if you gave them modern tools they would have pushed them to their limit creating timeless masterpieces, unlike today's animators who are only concerned with shitting out low effort FOTM haremslop because it's the only thing that sells.
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>>282694117
This doesn’t apply just to you, but to any artist. You still didn’t give a single argument though. You sound like a lunatic who thinks AI is an overlord entity who will become sentient overnight and dominate humanity. A better understanding of technology would help in that sense.
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A Few more years and we can finally make our own Haruhi S3
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>>282694145
Yet you are using this site instead of any other alternative.
>animators were truly passionate back then because they could afford to, if you gave them modern tools they would have pushed them to their limit creating timeless masterpieces,
Except for the fact that fantastic anime have been made after the 00s as well. Have you not watched any anime?
>unlike today's animators who are only concerned with shitting out low effort FOTM haremslop because it's the only thing that sells.
1. There is stuff outside of that. Check indie anime and movies.
2. Ai will only help to produce more low effort slop you dumb fuck. Can't you see that?
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>>282694195
>haruhi but it's just a soulless adaptation without any of the flair the original kyoani one had
What's the point then? If there is no human that can add something weird or different there is no point to it. Ai might get to the point where it's able to animate stuff but it will never be able to direct it. For example all those ghibli ai scenes are just copying stuff with no specific vision. Ghibli experimented a lot throughout the years and it's obvious in how the movies are directed.
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>>282694159
It's not about some absurd terminator scenario either
I know how the tech works, it's a bunch of equations that are strung together into an absurdly large probability thingamajig made to spit out procedurally generated sentences and other such things that are eerily good at looking like there was actual thought behind it
That's precisely the problem
We've created a machine to lie to us, and are handing over our agency to it
You can see the effects already
People who rely on AI have had proven drops in their IQ from before they started using it
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>>282694197
I'm not the guy arguing that AI will completely replace animators, it's clear that the current incarnation of "AI" is starting to hit its limits, but it will definitely improve the productivity of any animator learns how to use it properly.

Pixiv has been mostly low effort shitscribbles since forever, and yet it's still the place most people go for finding the best anime art. People will be able to bring their silly ideas to life, and produce tons of slop, but like with most of the art that has ever existed, it will be forgotten. You'll only ever hear of the best where a team of animators put real effort into the project, and AI will be another tool that just happened to be used to speed up some of the mundane parts.
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>>282694257
If we go by the platonic vision, art itself is a lie. It id bad because it is an imitation of nature, which is already an imperfect expression of the true Form of things. AI just adds one layer to that, it’s an imitation of an imitation of imperfection. But it’s madly efficient in doing that.
> People who rely on AI have had proven drops in their IQ from before they started using it
That is bullshit. It might make some people overreliant on it, but this is just bad usage. There is no study correlating it to IQ loss, just some about critical thinking, which can be biased via mainstream media, books, social media, etc. anyway..,
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>>282688732
It is slop, but even the most overanimated shonen slop out there makes more sense and is easier to follow than this choppy, hectic AI webm OP posted. I'd rather watch those overly drawn out One Piece Luffy Gear 5 fights with ADHD levels of overanimation than whatever this is.
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>>282688578
Only if they deliver quality
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>>282694411
That's extremely wishful thinking. If you want to believe that then good 4 you but I doubt it. At least you recognize that ai is only somewhat useful at "speeding things". Anyways I will always have more appreciation for stuff like >>282692923
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>>282693872
GOKEKBROS NOT LIKE THIS
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>>282691396
The garbage in the op uses even anime from 2001 as a reference. Imagine that, ai even slopifies older anime while using the worst modern trends.
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>>282694469
Do you really think all that matters is how close something is to the true form?
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Advancements in AI, and AI animation, will have diminishing returns, be it stopping at 95% or 98% similarity to real animation. As someone who works for a company whose entire purpose is to use AI to transcribe audio, human hands will have to fix up whatever is spit out. So to anyone thinking that AI can produce anime without any intervention, you need to stop being a fucking retard and get real
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>>282694469
Alright, settle down Hayato
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>>282690942
I could see them using it for background art when they don't have the budget for, like, Studio Pablo or something. And maybe some smear frames. But it'll be decades before the entire process is done by AI. Even if the technology gets good enough sooner than that, this is the one country on earth that still uses fax machines. They're not going to throw out the old ways immediately for the shiny new toy.
Western animation is far more likely to be replaced by AI than anime is anytime soon.
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>>282694689
No, my view is much more pragmatic. If I see it and I like it, then it doesn’t matter whether it is done by a human or by AI. It is the anti-AI artists who keep preaching about the metaphysical state of art.
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>>282692198
The only Ghibli movies with any soul are Whisper of the Heart, The Cat Returns, and the Yamadas. You'll notice Hackazaki didn't direct any of those.
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>>282691544
It can't begin in earnest until we discover the spice.
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>>282694778
That seems to me like a very self destructive behavior
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>>282694851
Kiki and Omoide Poroporo have a lot of soul as well.
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>>282691672
What does the box give you when you feed it Tezuka's weird erotic drawings?
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>>282694899
The real self-destructive behaviour is getting mad about AI advancements and people having fun generating images. As Marcus Aurelius would say, you shouldn’t worry too much about external things outside your control. I think you should drop mangas a bit and read other kinds of books as well. It helps in the intellectual development.
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>>282691807
>>oh you have to watch 250 animu and read 300 mango to develop a taste
As you should. There's literally nothing wrong with /a/nons demanding this from people
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>>282695008
You really have no idea how serious this is do you
I'm not here to make sure manga doesn't fill up with AI images and squash people's fun for playing wrong
This is about the future of humanity as a whole
AI as it's being used right now is killing us
We need a much more clearly defined way that it should be used, that is engrained into tradition and maintained with rigorous discipline
Maybe that way is to just never use it at all
I'm not making that call
But it absolutely should never be used to create art or write stories
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This is literally a frame from the anime. Why is AI even allowed to train on copyrighted anime episodes?
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Was this thread linked in /v/ or /pol/? It certainly feels like a thread posted originally on one of these

>>282695223
Because amerilards scraped all content possible just so their bubble doesn't pop. But it will and once it does I'll just hop on my hammock and see the carnage unfold
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>>282694469
>There is no study correlating it to IQ loss
I've read that students that are too obsessed with ai are performing way worse in class than their peers and as for IQ there is a sharp decline from the pervious generations.
>>282695008
Funny that you mention books when aifags refuse to read anything and they would rather ask a bot than do the research for themselves.
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>>282695140
It's being used to learn everyone's cheat codes. That is worse. Advertising is obsolete. Even education is probably futile. There is no way to inform consent to manipulation you can't conceive of. We're in a phase now where it's being used to gaslight advertisers and voters. What happens after that? Bigger machines, more detail, longer chains of leverage. Will we be happy when we really aren't responsible for how we live and die? I doubt it. I'm glad I'm so old, but still sick from understanding.
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>>282695223
Because copyright just means a corporation somewhere owns it. Individuals don't have intellectual property unless they have a shell company to own it for them.
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>>282688868
>>282688904
Is it weird that I agree with both these takes? This technology is awesome but at the same time it will only be used to enshittify the world more and more.
>>282688781
Kek
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>>282688985
Why are you lying? A lot of it is artfags seething beyond belief (rightfully so)
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>>282695140
>But it absolutely should never be used to create art or write stories
Why? Because you don’t want to? Arts and stories are forms of entertainment, if it entertains people, the medium per se is not important. It is just a quicker way of delivering the circensis part to the masses.
I am not John Connor and have no interest in saving the anime industry from the evil AI. Let it flow its course and enjoy the ride.
Michelangelo would also look at all this anime stuff and say that real art is dead.
AI should just be controlled in the sense that people don’t use it to commit crimes, but there are already laws about that.
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>>282695316
That's a whole other thing I hate about it, yes
But it didn't directly relate to the conversation
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>485 reply shitthread about aislop
>on /a/
How much longer until there are blatant in-your-face aislop G E N E R A L S on this board like the rest of the single-letter popular boards? That's where this shit is going.

The only "AI" that should be allowed to be discussed on /a/ is girls named "Ai" (pronounced like the letter I).
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>>282695402
If you think art and stories are just entertainment then it's no wonder why you don't get it
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I won’t lie to you anons, the best use for this AI is to make shippers seethe beyond belief. Whether they’re fujos, yuricucks, and etc we will be seeing levels of seething thought impossible.

I’m already salivating at using this for the MHA ending
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>>282695499
You could just learn to draw
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>>282695287
> I've read that students that are too obsessed with ai are performing way worse in class than their peers and as for IQ there is a sharp decline from the pervious generations.
What you are mentioning is the Flynn Effect. And the behavior you described is just laziness. As for ‘AI lowering IQ,’ that’s just fearmongering. IQ in the sense of solving Aristotelian logic puzzles is trainable people literally get better by practicing test formats. Broader cognitive capability is shaped much more tied to environment, education, childhood stimulus, nutrition, and health. If you want to talk about societal intelligence, those are the real variables, not whether someone uses Stable Diffusion to draw an anime waifu or prompt ChatGPT.

> Funny that you mention books when aifags refuse to read anything and they would rather ask a bot than do the research for themselves.
I am not a collectivist. I answer for myself and barely anyone reads books nowadays. It was just an advice to expand the knowledge and stop being so worried about AI as a catastrophic threat.
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>>282688578
yutaka nakamura looking ahh cuts
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Anime died in the middle of the last decade, somewhere between 2016-2018.
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>>282695402
>Arts and stories are forms of entertainment, if it entertains people, the medium per se is not important.
So you don't see any difference between classic cinema/literature and those ai trailers generated by indians? Grim.
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>>282692988
no you haven't
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>>282695536
>And the behavior you described is just laziness.
Yes and ai encourages laziness.
.not whether someone uses Stable Diffusion to draw an anime waifu or prompt ChatGPT.
then explain why the newer generations are dumber.
>I answer for myself and barely anyone reads books nowadays.
And Ai is one of those reasons. There are countless of math books online and instead of trying to solve a math problem using those teenagers always use ai nowadays(and I've seen this happening with my own eyes).
>It was just an advice to expand the knowledge
I read all the time and I am not even the original anon you were talking with.
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>>282688578
>Would you be okay with AI being used in the industry?
Why would people care about the fucking industry once they can create their own content with the same technology it exploits? Just look at how AIfags mock artfags into oblivion. The same circus is gonna happen to every medium and they're soon gonna get the slop treatment.
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>>282695545
all media died in the middle of the last decade though
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>>282695661
True
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Holy shit you are all a bunch of loser faggots. No wonder the world's leaving you behind.
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>>282688578
Lol it's janky looking crap
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>>282695713
Welcome to 4chan
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>>282695444
It is entertainment though. Unless it is a Dostoevsky that has a subtle criticism and philosophical value intrinsically attached to the story. And works like these will never lose it is place. But 99% is pure entertainment. You must think anime like Lain and Berserk are deep, so you don’t know.
>>282695550
You are comparing a medium that has millennia like literature and another one with more than 100 years to something released recently? Give it time and people will start developing good stuff. There is also plenty of traditional art garbage around, like calarts and jaiden animations.
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>>282695755
It's extremely frustrating trying to express myself to someone who has such a massive heap of completely wrong expectations about what I believe
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>>282695775
Because your beliefs are based on hallucinations. You are like Don Quixote de La Mancha fighting windmills thinking they are giants.
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>>282688578
>This was all created with AI
oh trust me, it shows
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>>282695755
You sound really low IQ.
>You are comparing a medium that has millennia like literature and another one with more than 100 years to something released recently?
No, I am comparing it with something that actually has intent in its stories. Ai will never be able to make something like classic cinema not because it can't generate the imagery but because it can't develop its own unique direction(this applies to anime as well). Same with books. Judging from your reply to that other anon you do understand the value of a good book(but ignore stuff like the prose for example). Do you think Ai will be able to generate something with "subtle criticism and philosophical value"?
>Give it time and people will start developing good stuff.
Which people? And what does good stuff even mean? You sound like a complete shiteater so I can't tell what you consider acceptable.
>calarts
Most calarts cartoons use rigged animation and generating animation is not far away from ai.
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>>282695780
>Also the populace has been becoming browner.
This is true but guess who likes generating ai garbage the most?
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>>282695848
I'd rather be the village madman who made too much noise about the windmill than the knight who let giants walk past me
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>>282695896
> You sound really low IQ
wow, great argumentum ad hominem. You are the epitome of wisdom, my friend. Da Vinci is jealous of your high IQ and Demosthenes must be proud of your brilliant oratory.
> it can't develop its own unique direction(this applies to anime as well). Same with books
Yes, it can. What you see is just the surface of AI usage that is released to the general public using prompts. If you look at open source models you can specify length, frame rate, prompt weights, add personalised loras, generation steps, etc. The studios will get tailored AI access that will integrate with tools like Premiere and Davinci. There are already efforts being made in that sense. Same can be applied to writing, people can use AI as an assistance tool to write something good, Things aren’t just black and white in that sense.
> Which people? And what does good stuff even mean? You sound like a complete shiteater so I can't tell what you consider acceptable.
People who are knowledgeable of animation and start using AI for their indie studios for example. Or even professional studios. AI can generate a wide range of stuff just pick what you like.
> Most calarts cartoons use rigged animation and generating animation is not far away from ai.
It is not AI and it is still trash. My point stands. Rigging is a totally different process. You are tech illiterate, it is pretty obvious now.
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>>282689457
>A BIG part of enjoying art is knowing that there was effort involved
Nah that's retarded. What about if a dude created art by scratching at a piece of wood with their toenail? Would that be better than your painting?
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>>282696197
If you want people to stop treating you like a low iq retard you should stop acting like one.
> If you look at open source models you can specify length, frame rate, prompt weights, add personalised loras, generation steps, etc
You still don't seem to understand what directing is. Ai can only copy other styles of directing but now develop its own even if it could it would never have the same humane touch of a director taking tens of takes for each scenes until it's perfect, until he captures the exact emotions that he wants from an actor(another that ai can't replicate since humans emotions are not as exact and as predictable as you may think).
>People who are knowledgeable of animation and start using AI for their indie studios for example
A lot of the indie animators that I like do it out of passion and not for monetary gain so they wouldn't be interested in speeding up a process since they already enjoy the process of drawing.
>AI can generate a wide range of stuff just pick what you like.
I am asking what (you) like.
>It is not AI
Are you illiterate? I haven't said that it's Ai, I said that it's generating animation using puppet rigs and that's not that far away from Ai.
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>>282696197
>great argumentum ad hominem
It wasn't an argument anon. He was just plain insulting you there. And it should feel pretty insulting to not even realise it.
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>>282695713
>Nooooooo why do people hate my sloppa waaahhh
Stupid fucking retard. If this vision for the media succeeds we would have nothing but garbage forcefed down our throats to save costs.

AI is pure slop and most people shilling it are just tards with 0 interest in any specific inustry, they are just looking for anything where AI could be applied even though it isn't needed, it's a solution in search of a problem, and that problem is that it still doesn't makes money. All the user facing AI tools are being sold at a loss, just like how Uber outlived all it's competitors and then it finally raised prices once it was the only player left.

It makes no money and makes pure garbage that looks bad and has 0 artistic merit. You are just an useful idiot shilling sloppa and getting mad when people don't like it. Go back to /g/
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>>282688578
Damn the Demon Slayer movie looks crazy!
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>>282688578
Holy megallloni this is kino fr fr fr fr! They even improved that death note boomer shit! Gyat! Skibidi!
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>>282688578
>ai fag makes a shitty thread
>everyone makes fun of him
>repeat x10
Aren't you getting tired of this?
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>>282696505
Well that is exactly what an ad hominem is, but you lack proper culture. This is the result of consuming too much low quality media. And you still complain about AI. Pretty ironic.
>>282696497
> If you want people to stop treating you like a low iq retard you should stop acting like one.
It is clear your IQ isn’t above 110 and you don’t have a well paid job. You are just a frustrated loser with poor argumentative skills.
> You still don't seem to understand what directing is. Ai can only copy other styles of directing but now develop its own even if it could it would never have the same humane touch of a director taking tens of takes for each scenes until it's perfect, until he captures the exact emotions that he wants from an actor(another that ai can't replicate since humans emotions are not as exact and as predictable as you may think).
You are romanticising something that doesn’t exist, since you are a mystical retard. Human emotions are just chemical reactions and muscles moving, that is pretty replicable for AI. What matters is the observable result to the viewer. And you can direct a scene via AI by tweaking the generation, doing it a few times and choosing the best one. Pretty much like a take from a movie.

> Are you illiterate? I haven't said that it's Ai, I said that it's generating animation using puppet rigs and that's not that far away from Ai.

I have never seen something so dumb being said in my 22 years of 4chan. I will screencap this for posterity and show to anyone who feels they aren’t very smart. I will show there is a new level of stupidity. Rigging and Generative AI are totally and completely different processes. They have nothing to do with each other. One uses a base model and a skeleton in order to rig the movements. The closest thing we have to this is WanAnimate. Now the generation you see in OP video is a frame per frame approximation. You are comparing tomatoes to dolphins.
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>>282696497
> A lot of the indie animators that I like do it out of passion and not for monetary gain so they wouldn't be interested in speeding up a process since they already enjoy the process of drawing.
They can go back to living in caves and using stones to make fire as well. I don’t care. Some indie studios will take advantage of AI, will have monetary gain and this way will be able to improve their results.
> I am asking what (you) like.
I like your mom, even though that toothless hag stinks a bit. Her pussy is still wet.
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>>282697053
Joshua 3inch ulmer the blackcel is using AI to help his 80IQ 40 year old "brain" to generate troll posts like this kek. Sad and mindbroken
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>>282697053
>Well that is exactly what an ad hominem is
You called it an argumentum ad hominem, retard
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>>282697225
Because that it is exactly what it is. It’s a debate phallacy where you start by insulting your opponent and disqualifying him so you can feel superior. What do they teach in school nowadays? You don’t even know the basics, this is serious. AI is already smarter than you. It is sad that such idiotic people have the right to post. As Umberto Eco said, the internet gave voice to the idiots.
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>>282697200
nice fanfic
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>>282696651
>Impotent seething at a world that is deserting you and doesn't pay for you you to make your shitty furry diaper porn art

I'm sure the big bad AI is gonna go away any day now and people are going to realize they actually don't want it and everything will go back to normal! #KamalaWalz2028 #NotGoingBack
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>phallacy
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>>282697053
>projecting because he is mad
Like I said stop acting like an idiot , it's getting boring. People call you are a retard not because they have something against you but because it's an easily observable trait. Do you get it?
> Human emotions are just chemical reactions and muscles moving,
Except for the fact that the best movies have more than just that. Good acting is not an easy thing to find and it relies on more than just muscle movements but rather something specific to every human. That's why even good actors can't replicate the best acting present in classic movies.
>What matters is the observable result to the viewer. And you can direct a scene via AI by tweaking the generation, doing it a few times and choosing the best one.
And yet it still won't have the same level of control(and humanity) that you would get by shooting multiple takes. One of the reasons being that time affects the actors and how they behave while generated actors will only behave in an inhuman way. In the same vein animating every frame(using layouts of course) has so much more control and beauty than generating stuff.
>They have nothing to do with each other. One uses a base model and a skeleton in order to rig the movements. The closest thing we have to this is WanAnimate. Now the generation you see in OP video is a frame per frame approximation
Yes. I said, "it's the closest thing". It doesn't generate frames but it does generate movement. I am asking again, are you illiterate or just pretending?
Btw it's hilarious how you've ignored my point about indie anime and about what you like. It seems you enjoy mocking the tastes of other people yet you can't name your own. I wonder why? Maybe because you can't tell garbage from non-garbage? It would explain why you are in love with Ai slop.
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>>282697175
>Some indie studios will take advantage of AI, will have monetary gain and this way will be able to improve their results.
By creating soulless slop only appreciate by retards like you lol.
>avoiding to name the stuff he likes
Classic. You are the prime example of how retarded our society is. I am sorry for your braindead generation.
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>>282697473
His entire posts are AI generated
>>282697498
Watch out. That coward might post some generated shit right before this thread gets archived just to make himself feel good about getting the last reply
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>>282697414
Called out and mindbroken blackcel
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>>282697175
>way will be able to improve their results.
It's not improving when you can only make something inferior. Even after 30 years nothing compares to old traditional frame by frame animation. It's weird how you think technology has improved media when in reality it has been getting worse and worse.
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>>282697534
Yeah that's her whole modus operandi lel. Subhuman "troll" (blackcel) to the core
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>>282697609
>her



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