Why did she stop? Ichigo was clearly unable to resist her plan.
>>282698981because she is just a tease, not an actual slut.
>>282698981haha what a faggot
>>282698981Why is she such a fucking whore?
Sitting in a wet sauna with Liltotto.
>>282699225She's not
>>282698981>ichigo gets to fuck this laterI'm jealous
Remember when Ichigo had a tomboy friend and then the whole friend group ghosts her to go on adventures over and over until she gets like one panel every 5 years lol.
>>282698981Rangiku would have lost to Ichigo's cock, she was just trying to save face.
>>282699309Why did she suddenly become a pornstar?
>>282698981Left or right?
>>282700296For what?
>>282699603for me its the sexy boss woman
>>282699269Liltotto is dead and buried tho.
>>282700602seriously, what was Kubos idea in giving Ichigo a part time job with two new characters and then doing absolutely nothing with it?
Imagine being a hardcore shinigami and getting killed by this.
>want to look up a bleach webm in the archive>all the pictures are deadwtf
>>282698981>rangikuUnironically lost her virginity to Gigi
Uh how did Isshin know FGT was going to give Ichigo the ability to fight aizen? Was that ever explained????
>>282698981Poor Rukia...
I wish Tatsuki was apart of the group.
>>282698981she knew that ichigo knew that she was for toshirosimple as
>>282701760>>282701760>was going to give Ichigo the ability to fight aizen?ichigo already had that ability. remember that ichigo could sense aizen's undetectable reiatsuIsshin knew about Yhwach. He just gambled that he would try to keep the charadewhether he knew old man was trying to stir ichigo away from the soul reapers is up to debate
>>282701760It came to him in a dream
>>282701206why does a hollow need breasts this big
>>282702135>>282702150Isshin is a horrible father lol. He was barely there for Ichigo and left him to rot mentally. He did fuck off for most of story and forced his son to fight aizen because he couldn’t. I wish Kubo developed their relationship properly.
>>282702493>He was barely there for Ichigo and left him to rot mentally.he's a doctor following his wife's ideals. he wouldn't forgive himself if a patient that he could save diedobviously :)that's why he overcompensates by being cringe and wrestling with ichigo :D
>>282702597>He choose his job over his son’s deteriorating mental health>Beats the shit out of him when be comes home>Everything is joke That’s the definition of neglect.
>>282699309My fucking dick...
Today I learned that Hinamori's VA has done hentai
>>282699603Too many characters, he had to throw some away like her and the boys from Ichigo's school even the readers forgot.
>>282702150>here's some bullshit story I'm telling you to asspull another form and get this shit over with sonDamn he is HIM
>>282703475Here’s the issue, why didn’t Isshin tell him about this before.
There wasn’t a single scene of Ichigo talking to Isshin after the dangai training. Fucking why?
>>282700296Left
>>282701206She has 0 feats tho.
>>282699269>>282700922imagine the smell
>>282698981she was seeded by Gigi
>>282698981Old bleach was soulful.
Best ship, best characters. Beep beep! Look and see!
>>282699276Do NOT lie.
>>282701760It was a hail mary. He just knows what final getsuga is and that it would make Ichigo stronger so he went for it.
>>282698981Best girl
>>282706783>submits after a single thrust
Old Bleach won.
>>282701760it's safe to say that at some point Kubo's plan was that Isshin lost his shinigami powers using his own Final Getsuga and he correctly assumed that because Ichigo had a Getsuga technique of his own then he could do it tooWhen Kubo changed his mind about how Isshin lost his powers that just kinda got swept under the rug since it's not really important enough to have him interrupt any of his TYBW scenes to look at the camera and say "I can do final getsuga too, in theory, but I've never actually done it, and I'm not going to any time soon"
>>282707794TYBW rubs me the wrong way because I feel like it ruins everything that came before or alteast tried to ignore previous events that occurred.
>>282707900eh, saying it ruined it is putting the stuff that came before and the spokon-ish battlemanga genre as a whole on too high of a pedestal. Kubo had to find some way to square up all the hints as to just way Ichigo was such a massive freak and I think 'serendipitously inherited a crime against nature create by aizen via melting god knows how many shinigami together' was one of the better possible answers. beats the hell out of >aliens>reincarnation of the soul king's other 'son'>just won the potential lottery for no reason>chosen by god
>>282708096>chosen by godSoul king was interested in him by for the wrong reasons
Is the soul king a retard? Why the fuck didn’t he just warn ichigo?
>>282708738they literally scooped his brain out
>>282701175Didn't he say something about how Ikumi was supposed to be an older sister figure of sorts for Ichigo? It was another human world relationship for him to protect, one that was separate to his usual family and friends and also from the whole supernatural bullshit. Ichigo's whole thing is about protecting his loved ones, and the fullbring arc showed how what Ichigo needed to protect was getting larger despite being more powerless than before
>>282702597He's just awkward and doesn't know how to talk with his son properly. He can give good advice at times, like in the battles against Grand Fisher and Aizen. He also helped Ichigo get his powers back during the fullbring arc, and gave him the answers he needed during the TYBW arc. The only time he wasn't there for him was the Arrancar arc, but Ichigo kept ran off to train with Shinji anyway. And Isshin would have known about Shinji
>>282708769He had no issue sending random ass visions and projecting his eyes onto him.
>>282708858that was just the radiation
>>282708876You completely made that up on the spot. Holy shit kubo wankers.
>>282703589Kubo is a hack. Any question you have of bleach is explained by this.That's what happens when you think of something cool first, then try to write the story around the event. That's Kubo's entire writing process, and it's why bleach has always been known for the "rule of cool".When you understand that, everything starts making sense in bleach. Kubo has an idea, and he wants to get to it because he likes it/finds it cool. Then he will do the impossible to get there, even if the story doesn't allow for it. He will use all kinds of asspulls, plotholes and bullshit just to write what he finds to be cool.
Bleach was suppose to end after Aizen.
>>282708898>You completely made that up on the spot.Nooooo, ya think?
>>282708936What ashame, bleach had so much potential.
>>282709070potential isn't real
I've been waiting for proper Soul lore for years. Three cours in and it's barely explained. So many of those fight scenes, half of which completely bombed, should've been replaced with more fleshed out lore. Bleach is just poorly fleshed out nonsense.
Is isshin the hottest dad in the show
>>282709472Ichigo is hotter
Bleach needs to be promoted fully into the western setting. Japanese fans are not dedicated like the hardcore western fanbase. They need to give up on those idiots.
>>282708936KEK kubo cocksuckers in shambles. They can't argue when their God himself says that he doesn't plan his story. I'm saving this for when anyone starts sucking kubo's dick too much.
>>282709472Now that I think about it, Isshin and Ryuken are the ONLY dads in the show. There's literally no one else. I can't think of anyone. Everyone else is either a grandpa or a father figure but not really a dad. So yeah between Isshin and Ryuken, Isshin is hotter I guess.
>>282710207>B-but he foreshadowed everything!
>>282710207you penis cultists are crazy
>>282708936I swear the same monkeys praising the prequels are now praising Kubo like he had a grand plan or some shit. Bleach is as deep as a piss puddle.
>>282698981Aizen sama!
>>282710594Yep, If he truly had a plan then he wouldn't need to fill up the story with thousands of side mini battles because he hasn't thought of how to progress the main plot during it's run.
>>282708936>>282710594What's funny is that this was all well known back then, by everyone. Not just on /a/ or reddit or tumblr or whatever shitty forum you can think of; it was the entire fandom that knew and agreed that bleach didn't have much depth, but delivered on epic fights and cool designs.And this new bleach narrative emerged after bleach ended and most people moved on to other series. The people that stayed behind were retarded turbo autists that rimmed kubo's asshole better than a blue haired whore with daddy issues and a nose piercing.And so they finally had their safe space in their little echo chamber. Then bleach came back, and the newfags -wanting to fit in- followed the narrative without questioning it.
>>282711120Coming back to Bleach after a fucking decade, I was shocked how different the fandom was. I remember Bleach fans back then being hyper critical and were actually honest about the state of the manga.
>>282711298My chinese friend has all those features.
>>282711248Same thing for me. The shift was insane. And its not like the anime fixed much. It's still the exact same thing.
>>282711330anon *puts hand on your shoulder* your friend had surgery or white admixture..
>>282711401No, she's chinese with immigrant parents. I've known her since she was a kid, she looks exactly the same and her parents share her face.
>>282711461well tell her to cosplay rets then.
>>282711649She doesn't care about Bleach anymore.
>>282711678unless she hates it i don't see why.
>>282711712I can't force her to do something she doesn't care about though.
Nozomi should've been canon.
kill yourself
>>282711298>racebaiting
Context from a japanese: >Anyone who has read the original manga will understand, but up until the Rukia rescue arc, the story was enjoyable with its compelling characters and clear, unwavering plot. However, the author himself publicly stated onstage at Jump Festa, "I hated it when my editor revised the story. From now on, I won't let him interfere." (The series itself became a hit, strengthening Kubo's position.) And so , the Arrancar arc, which Kubo boasted about, "I draw the storyboard in one go! I rarely make corrections!" Despite its length, the story doesn't make sense, the plot never resolves... and the battles are like, "Bang!" every week. Kubo ruined Bleach as an IP because of NPD. Why didn't he allow his editors to help out???? One Piece and Naruto would've fell off too if they ignored their team.
bleach brave souls is fun
>>282712259where is this from
>>282698981This shit is still going? I thought it ended a year ago...
fucking die
>>282702493>I wish Kubo developed their relationship properly.Same could be said about a lot of characters in this series. And the ones he does develop well, he often will torpedo it in some way and then neglect it or he'll just let it fade into obscurity and maybe pull it back when he needs something to reference for dtory or thematic reasons. And I'm talking about *all* kinds of relationships, not just romantic or platonic ones.
>>282704799Absolutely. Even with its flaws.
>>282708936That style could have worked well if it hadn't increasingly become consimed by its own pretentiousness. Having "high art" styled philosophical poetry mixed in as a tome-setter and adding bits of sibstance to characters and themes is fine, but it's like all these smaller elements (details, themes, etc.) started to become more important than things that everyone else felt cool until nothing felt cool anymore. The things that got people caring about Bleach often became underdeveloped/underutilized/sidelimed/ruined, while the things that people didn't care as much about became overdeveloped.
>>282710637I feel like I'm having a stroke. What the hell is this??
>>282708530yet he was like I can finally die and this dickhead can take over
>>282712259>Anyone who has read the original manga will understand, but up until the Rukia rescue arc, the story was enjoyable with its compelling characters and clear, unwavering plot.My feelings exactly. The Soul Society/Rukia Rescue arc was bloated, stretched, meandering, and ultimately unsatisfying. I think it was only saved because the unnecessary bits introduced (all the lieutenants, captaons, and their backstories) were so well done and interesting that it didn't feel like a total waste of time. But, my criticism comes from the distraction from actually rescuing Rukia (making it about everything and everyone else instead), the blandness of the world/environment, and the "twist" with Aizen (more distraction). The unsatisfactory part was really hammered home by Ichigo's bankai being completely nulified in an utterly humiliating way by this new villain, followed by the person that was the reason for all of this choosing to stay behind and thus essentially nulifying the rescue efforts, which includes the reason why Ichigo achieved bankai in the first place, and going against her own character development (her attachment to the world of the living she never got to experience) and the core formula that got many of us hooked on Bleach to begin with.
>>282713542SS arc barely featured Rukia the more that I think about it. The only time she was heavily involved in the manga was the first arc of the series.
>>282701175I think maybe if he wasn't forced to rush to the conclusion of the Fullbringer arc, she might have developed her own Fullbringer.
>>282712259That is just one opinion.Most people don't like Bleach that much until that Byakuya and Renji arrive at Karakura. On forums you see a lot of people starting the series and asking when it gets better.Kubo himself admitted that the first arc wasn't very popular and because of that the series didn't get color pages during some time, it was low in the wsj polls.Plus, Bleach got the Shogakukan manga award in 2005 for the SS arc. That tells you that the SS arc was great.
>>282713918You’re misunderstanding. They’re stating that the SS arc was good and things started to slide downwards during the arrancar arc. They’re not criticizing SS.
Bleach future content needs to be moved to western desires Japan is a lost cause and their taste is shit.
>>282713949Then more people is misunderstanding it >>282713542
Is there an archive of the Jackie Diaz webcomic? Everywhere I look it's photobucket and myspace links.
>>282708936Wait, so that shit about Kubo wanting to end the story with Ichigo's and Rukia's children was made up? KEEEEEEKWhat a liar.
>>282714287Obviously Kubo is talking about the end of other things in the story, not Ichigo's and Rukia's children meeting.
>>282714287Obviously in that interview Kubo is talking about the end of other things in the story, the many open plots, not of Ichigo's and Rukia's children meeting, which was going to happen even if the story changed before. That is simply the last page.
>>282714596>>282714647>I still haven't decided how the series will end>I wanted to end the series with Ichigo's and Rukia's children meetingOne of these is a lie. That meeting is LITERALLY the proper ending of Bleach, since it bookends the first chapter. It's literally spelled out to you too, with how the first and last chapter and volume titles match. I doubt Kubo was talking about "not knowing how he'd get there" because that's not the ending.
>>282708936>>282711120I don't see why it would be impossible to have a deep story that is developed while serialized, rather than all at once and then revised and edited etc. His response also doesn't entail that he never did any foreshadowing. The only thing that happens, and this is very obvious, is that you that you get interesting stories and developments of characters while the plot isn't that strong. Kind of like what >>282713323 said.
>>282714988Because Kubo has a huge ego, we have no idea what parts were foreshadowed and what were made up along the way and he pretends were planned all along retroactively. There are anons here who don't believe the Zangetsu-Yhwach connection was properly planned, for example, and Ichibei hiding his name when Zangetsu said it or believing the "Only that sword can defeat me" line references Yhwach's defeat is ludicrous. Those dots were connected much later, possibly as late as TYBW starting (there's some evidence for this, like how Yhwach's character changes from the moment he was introduced where he kept harping about peace to then rave about revenge on the Shinigami, suggesting Kubo thought of that connection right in the middle of that arc, same with Aizen being behind everything in SS).The answer most fans these days default to is "Kubo planned everything", even going as far as to defend his most ridiculous retcons (saying 0 Espada was foreshadowed since Yammy said Arrancar #10, no reference to his Espada rank) is just author worship, and Kubo enables it with his nonsense on Klub where he gives half-assed responses and even forgets shit about his story, giving you all the proof you need regarding how much he cares about this shit.
>>282701175>>282708803>>282713626Fullbringer arc sucked, and killed the original run of Bleach.
>>282699309>morbidly obeseSad fate for the hero
>>282715064>we have no idea what parts were foreshadowed and what were made up along the wayYeah, making things seem foreshadowed when that wasn't the original intention is part of the craft, a way of re-using story elements.>and he pretends were planned all along retroactivelyI'm not sure about that.>There are anons here who don't believe the Zangetsu-Yhwach connection was properly plannedAnd?>and Ichibei hiding his name when Zangetsu said it or believing the "Only that sword can defeat me" line references Yhwach's defeat is ludicrousI don't really see how any of these are ludicrous. >there's some evidence for this, like how Yhwach's character changes from the moment he was introduced where he kept harping about peace to then rave about revenge on the Shinigami, suggesting Kubo thought of that connection right in the middle of that arc, It's true that some of the characters early on in the TYBW arc have their personalities changed later on, including Yhwach, I don't see how that means there was no foreshadowing. >The answer most fans these days default to is "Kubo planned everything", even going as far as to defend his most ridiculous retcons (saying 0 Espada was foreshadowed since Yammy said Arrancar #10, no reference to his Espada rank) is just author worshipSure, he didn't plan everything, like the later development with Gin, which he talked about.>and Kubo enables it with his nonsense on Klub That's not really bad>where he gives half-assed responses and even forgets shit about his story, giving you all the proof you need regarding how much he cares about this shit.Yeah he does forget some shit, like the Quincy spell naming system.
>>282715078You are sadly, terminally gay.
>>282715134>I don't really see how any of these are ludicrous.Because it's hard to believe Kubo was planning this when he couldn't even plan the Gotei 13 as late as Renji and Byakuya arriving (Renji calls him Kuchiki-sama and we only hear of the Captain title after Ichigo gets murked). It makes much more sense to just look at the context and see those scenes have perfectly-acceptable explanations at the time: his name is erased because Ichigo had yet to learn that so he can unlock his Shikai, same with that line about the blade when he's training for Bankai. Those things were repurposed later on to make sense retroactively. The issue is fans refuse to accept this, and say the original interpretations were red herrings that should be disregarded.Foreshadowing is not this one off-thing you drop and you do a big gotcha reveal much later on. You need to actually develop it, same you'd develop a character or a plot. It's why people criticize Kubo's writing; he often does things for convenience or for "coolness". Him forgetting things like Ginrei's existence or messing up with the Yoruichi cat stuff on Klub is further proof he didn't really think this too deeply. The depth is seen by fans who use headcanons to fill in the gaps and pretend he's a genius, when he really is no better than Oda (although he's better than Kishimoto imo).
>>282715212>Because it's hard to believe Kubo was planning this when he couldn't even plan the Gotei 13 as late as Renji and Byakuya arrivingSo in order to be able to have an idea for something that comes later in the story, you have to first have ideas for everything that comes before it? >Ichigo had yet to learn Learn what? >same with that line about the blade when he's training for BankaiWhich line?>Foreshadowing is not this one off-thing you drop and you do a big gotcha reveal much later on. You need to actually develop it, same you'd develop a character or a plot. Isn't that called build-up?
>>282714824But Ichigo's and Rukia's children meeting is only a little part of the ending, and not what fans and interviewer are asking about. They want to know where Ichigo wiil be, in SS or the human world, if he will be alive, who are going to be alive, who is going to be the final villain, in which order are going to happen the events, etc.
>>282715275>So in order to be able to have an idea for something that comes later in the story, you have to first have ideas for everything that comes before it?Yes? Why would you write a story like that where you have an idea for some far-off thing towards the ending while writing crucial stuff about the next arc by the seat of your pants?>Learn what?His name. You need to learn your Zanpakuto's name to use Shikai. Zangetsu tells him but he can't hear it because he's uninitiated, not because Ichibei randomly intervened in his inner world to block it. If that was the case, why didn't Zangetsu try to say he was Yhwach in other ways? He seemed satisfied with being called Zangetsu afterwards. It makes no sense.>Which line?From this page.>Isn't that called build-up?Yes, proper foreshadowing has build-up. Like the Soul Tickets Shunsui randomly brings up in TYBW, but by the logic of those Kubo bootlickers, they were actually "foreshadowed" in the pilot (they were not, Kubo just took the idea from that and reused it without any prior hint of their existence in Bleach's story). For example, where were those Soul Tickets when the Ryoka left SS after saving Rukia? Or when Orihime traveled back and forth during Arrancar? Gee, sure would've been handy to have them so she wouldn't get kidnapped by Ulquiorra in the Dangai. This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about.
>>282715368>Why would you write a story like that where you have an idea for some far-off thing towards the ending while writing crucial stuff about the next arc by the seat of your pants?because that's the idea that you havecountless stories exist because the author got an idea for a single specific scene and had no idea how to get there. especially in serial publishing. it's not like you get to choose what kind of inspiration you're feeling
>>282715367What do you mean a little part? It's literally how the manga ends. Not to mention how Kazui has to be there to finish off Yhwach's vestigial power. And you're actually right about the "where Ichigo will be, will he be alive" parts, because Kubo was still unsure during TYBW, hence that stupid plot with the Soul Tickets that was retconned in CFYOW. Kubo somehow STILL wasn't sure if he wanted Ichigo to stay in SS or the Human World towards the end of TYBW. So you had that stupid retcon which makes those tickets not being about visitation rights towards their friend, but Shunsui being a malicious asshole who wants to let Ichigo's friends see his corpse and expose SS's dirtiest secret for no good reason. So all the more proof Kubo barely planned anything in Bleach.>>282715389I get that; I'm glad Kubo could make Bleach make sense through his improvising, especially while enduring WSJ's weekly grind. But he also refused help from editors and even treated them like shit, when they could've streamlined his ideas to make the story more coherent. Kind of like how Gotouge sat down with her first editor and wrote as much as possible about how KnY should unfold. And lo and behold, here we have one of those rare battle shounen with a coherent story that doesn't meander and also sticks its landing.
>>282715524I care, because Bleach could've been great if Kubo's NPD-ass was willing to listen to advice from others. It makes me wonder if Hell arc (if it happens lol) will be good or not, because it's 100% gonna be Kubo's ideas (I doubt he'd accept input from anyone at this point for his manga, where he has almost complete creative control) but he also had a lot of time to hopefully plan this shit out properly.
>>282715463>It's literally how the manga ends.Again, it's the last page, it's not what Kubo and the interviewer are talking about when asking about the ending. They are thinking in the things I already told you.
>>282714988>I don't see why it would be impossible to have a deep story that is developed while serialized, rather than all at once and then revised and edited etcYou can, but bleach is far from being like that, though. And the longer a manga is, the harder it becomes to plan for everything, and have deep connections between events and foreshadowings.When you write a manga, you HAVE to know how to improvise and be quick on your feet. It's a weekly schedule usually. All shounen mangas do the same.>His response also doesn't entail that he never did any foreshadowingNobody said that. There are some foreshadowing in bleach. Kubo did have some plans for the story (although not at the start of the series), he's not completely braindead. The problem is when fans (and himself) starts acting like everything was planned, and that he cannot make any mistakes, when it's obvious when he pulled something out of his ass last second. It's just gaslighting when it's obvious what's happening.>you get interesting stories and developments of characters while the plot isn't that strong. Kind of like what >>282713323 said.And that's exactly what bleach is. There are some cool developments, but trying to act like the story is extremely well thought-out and kubo is a god is beyond retardation.Look at picrel, and tell me whether that was true or not.
>>282715551>(if it happens lol)It won't.
>>282716829I think the funnier answer from Klub is how Kubo backtracked on Shinigami and Humans being able to have children (it's actually super complicated, only Kisuke knows the process) to justify why Rukia couldn't recognize Isshin, since obviously Shinigami cannot have children with Humans in her mind. Yet this answers just makes her look like a dumbass, which to be fair, she kind of acts like a know-it-all bitch that keeps getting proven wrong from the very first chapter, like when Ichigo breaks free of her Bakudo.
Bleach defenders in shambles being wrong forever
>>282716996I haven't seen this answer and I'm not familiar with the established lore about shinigamis and humans having children. But yeah rukia not recognizing isshin is retarded. Obviously kubo hadn't thought of the soul society as we know it now at the start of the series.
I just stick with fanficton and fanart because the main story of Bleach is an utter disaster.
You motherfucking selfish piece of cocksucking shit, kill yourself
>>282698981She was his father's 2nd-in-command back when he was a captain. This whole "recognizing the Shiba Clan" becomes very silly, as the lore spreads.
>>282718049>Ganju is the only ugly ShibaRIP my guy
Fuck you
Urahara won
It seems here people wouldn't write anything because they have to have all story thought before starting a series, lol.
>>282715066Fullbringer arc had some of the best moments in the series and you're a faggot of you can't appreciate that
>>282721105Fullbring actually had decent battles. Ichigo vs Ginjo is a great fight.
>>282715524>>282715551BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
The quincies flopped, it’s time to move on and go back to the old favs.
Ruki/a/ reigns
>>282715368I’m pretty sure Ichigo was set up to become the soul king in the end. Otherwise the ticket friend scene makes zero sense.
>>282719342that assmy facedo the math
>>282720175The problem is when you pretend that the story is 100% calculated and foreshadowed from the first chapter when it actually isn't.Nothing wrong with coming up with stuff on the spot and having a few inconsistencies here and there (especially for a shounen manga that releases weekly for decades), but don't pretend like this isn't what's going on as the writer or the fans.
>>282708936....did people really think he had an idea for the ending?
>>282724520Go back to drawing fat tits Kubo
>>282704093no feats, all teats
pookia poochiki
Fucking kill yourself
>daipa seethes so hard he reported this postkwab
>>282724098Kubo didn't say the story is 100% calculated. He only said he puts some foreshawing here and there and it makes him happy when someone realizes of it. And it's not that hard to include that in the story, it doesn't make him a brilliant author just for that, but it's something very entertainning for the readers, and for the own aurthor.Kubo writes the series in the way he considers he must do it. He never says if it's good or bad, but that he writes it as he feels it must be. We, as readers, can think that certain parts aren't good or we don't like them, but it's our own personal opinion. At the end of the day people who are fans of Bleach have their own reasons to like it, and I assure you that many of us don't like many parts of Bleach, but we value other aspects and so that keeps us still very attached to Bleach. You are always going to find people defending some part of Bleach because there are many fans, so you will always find someone who like that concrete part, because everyone have our own opinions and likes and dislikes. At the end it's all subjetive.
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So I’m bored, but here’s an interesting tidbit fact from that Hisagi novel.>The reason Aura and Tokinada want to kidnap Urahara is because they need him to make a Hogyoku. Without that, Hikone can't become a Soul King. Makes one wonder just what the Hogyoku is.So going off that we know Yhwach did so by absorbing the husk of the SK’s power. Aizen was going to do the same via of Hougoku. I thought just being a hybrid was enough to be the soul king but it seems to not be the case, just apart of the requirements. What does Ichigo have other being a hybrid to make him a good replacement if we take in account of the new anime lore.
Can someone explain why Ichigo loses every fight in 1000 turd war but is still being looked up to as if he can 1v1 jesus standinman? It's worse in hueco mundo where he was losing every fight but then would awaken deuce ex #90 to suddenly win in 2 panels.
>>282727255Stuck in base the entire arc plus having a toned down softy personality. Plus Kubo being a bad writer.
>>282727255That’s every Superman comic ever.
I just finished reading Bleach. I was reading it back in the day when fan translations were way ahead of the official Viz releases, up to the fight with Ulquiorra and then stopped for decades. I still can't get over the fact they're called Vizored and not Vizards. But I feel like Ichigo is such a sauceless dude in a very stylish bottle. final getsuga tensho looks cool but ultimately it's Urahara that finishes off Aizen. Ichigo doesn't get to do anything with his cool new swords and it's Uryu that enables Ichigo to get that last bonk. And I'm left asking questions, probably because I knocked out the whole thing in like a week. Why did Yachiru even manifest as a tiny lil girly if the sword Zaraki picks up belonged to a dead Soul Reaper he killed and not a sword he earned? >>282701206Did anyone save her or was she just left in that prison place? Or did she die and I missed it?Where did Nel go? I thought she was gonna go in and save UraharaWhy did every fucking stern ritter have 6 different forms up their fucking ass? What was the point of making Giselle a guy if it never got touched upon?Granted I didnt watch the movie(s?) or look for any outside material that wasn't on the site I read this on, but man, I remember Bleach was my pick outta the big three of the time, and idk, now that I finished it, I feel so unenthusiastic about it. Is the anime for Blood War really that much better?
>>282727678You didn’t finish reading Bleach. You’re just baiting to extend the thread out of spite and cause problems. You already finished everything, and you were already in this thread arguing with others. You schizos are so easy to see.
>PLEASECAREABOUTTHEQUINCIES PLEASECAREABOUTTHEQUINCIES PLEASECAREABOUTTHEQUINCIES
>>282727863It boggles my mind how hard they tried to promote these clowns only for them to flop once again. They can barely get fanart, no abundance of fanfiction from what I searched, horrible designs, atrocious fights, inferior to previous characters, It’s sad to see how much cour 3 failed compared to 1 in hype. Bring me back.
>>282727863They're so fucking dumb. The entire series their power level is the equivalent of a basic bitch hollow. Uryu was fucking useless in the SS-Huecopoop ark. Then magically, he's able to 1v1 ichigo after spending most of the anime crying about "but maw quencies uwu"
>>282724520>>282724554>>282724721>>282725661>>daipaKubo's personal asshole rimmer working over time these days.
>>282729051NTA but Uryu was always kind of relative to Ichigo’s shikai in every arc. The difference is that Ichigo stopped being a bankai spammer and refuses to use his hollow powers all of a sudden. But yeah, the arc flopped in the manga worse than fullbring and cour 3 brought the hype back down to levels before cour 1 aired. I’m shocked how this turned out, where the fuck did all the viewers go? Can cour 4 save this? And will a hell arc happen? I’m worried about the future of Bleach.
>Ichigo every arcUhhh I’m use my bankai! And use my mask!TYBW>huh? What’s that? I forgot I had itLOL
no one is gonna miss you so gang yourself
>>282729346*hang
>>282729233That was to be expected. Even the most adamant bleach fans acknowledge that in the manga or the anime, the cour 1 content is the best part of the TYBW. So no wonder cour 2 and cour 3 are doing worse. The content is simply worse.Now, we're promised about 5-6 episodes of new content in the last cour, basically half the cour is new content. Depending on what those episodes will have, we could get back a bit of hype, and then maybe Kubo will capitalize on it and announce the hell arc (that would be the BEST case scenario, but pretty unlikely).Or, judging from their track record with all the new content we've had so far in the anime, those 5-6 episodes will be filler tier bullshit, and nobody will care, and the hell arc will be dropped (most likely scenario).So there's a chance cour 4 can save bleach, but it's very very small.
>>282729444Fuck man, I’m still going to hold onto hope for the hell arc. It’s by far the most interesting setting of Bleach. There’s no reason it should be cucked to a decade old movie and a one shot. I’ll try to remain optimistic but the marketing and decisions being made is a clusterfuck. I have no idea what’s going on.
Give thanks for Kubo for being a stubborn jackass and preventing Bleach from becoming a massive IP. Say what you want about the other authors but they were humble enough to know they couldn’t have gotten to far by themselves. Fuck Kubo man. Narcissistic piece of shit.
>>282729051In SS Uryu was the first to defeat a Bankai using Captain, and in a single hit. He always had the potential.Unfortunately for the character, he wasn't the focus of the next arcs, so he didn't get any power up.Now, the arc where he's the focus came up TYBW, but it was so long ago he showed any feats people got confused as to why he's now so powerful.He was always ment to (eventually) be this powerful. It's Kubo mismanegement of the karakura group as always. They should have shined post SS, but no, Kubo had to put the Captains there to steal the spotlight.
>>282730447What’s the confusion? he sucked Yhwach’s cock and drunk his blood. And when Yhwach gets stronger so the do the rest of the quincies and the reishi in the setting was amped to help them out and prevent the shinigami from creating footholds. There’s zero confusion. Anyways, this arc is complete dogshit. And a complete waste of time. The only thing left was Shunsui’s bankai which was ruined by the ugly colors. They should’ve went straight to the hell arc.
>>282730447Judging by the hell arc one shot, it’s going to be shinigami and arrancar wank again.
>P-please care about the quincies…please please please care….
>>282729728>t. IRfag
>>282699054How to get a tease gf
>>282703490When? During the initial 2v2 with Gin?Isshin thought they could still win without Ichigo going all out
>>282715368>Yes? Why would you write a story like that where you have an idea for some far-off thing towards the ending while writing crucial stuff about the next arc by the seat of your pants?This is literally how Yoko Taro writes.He writes the end first then writes the beginning to justify it. He wasn't even sure 2B and A2 were different people at the start.
Bleach could have been good if they went all in on the world building and plot but Kubo opted for le kewl factor which always loses its luster about a microsecond. Like wtf is a fullbringer? Here have a whole arc about it, enjoy.
>>282733735Bleach if it shoujo
Japan is a lost cause, do a new Bleach story that's heavily aimed towards overseas tastes like Solo Leveling. If you want to save Bleach this needs to happen.
Fullbring is now one of the best arcs in the Bleach. If it came out now, it would've been far more popular than tybw.
>>282734932Based. All he needed was a mother figure.
My issue in particular was the fullbringers themselves. I remember reading it live and loving it until the new characters showed up. Other than Ginjo and facebook, the other characters ate up too much panel time and fucked over Ichigo's friends and schoolmates. Tatsuki was the perfect opportunity to be used, Kubo's issue is that he keeps making new characters instead of using the ones he already had.
>>282734932>>282735283My issue is that the Fullbringer Arc was the perfect opportunity to develop Karakura boys but yet again Kubo threw in the Captains to steal the spotlight >>282730447
>>282704093She took on 3 Captain tier Shinigami at once
>>282735283MY issue was we already experienced much higher stakes so this felt like a step back. I loved the psychological warfare and mystery aspects of it though.
>>282735322I wanted Ichigo to develop a closer bond with all his friends and bring tatsuki and his sisters in the mix. And do more with his father. Ikumi was also a good character. But characters like Riruka, Jackie, and the others cluttered the plot and pushed Orihime, Chad, and Uryu to the side. Which in effect ruined other established characters from partaking. Fullbring was the perfect opportunity for Ichigo to be divided with SS via the revelation of the substitute shinigami badge. Maybe just maybe, this could've lead to Ichigo being manipulated into Yhwach's side in the lead up to TYBW and we get a quincy Ichigo. I love the captains but they also clutter the plot with their infinite side battles. FKT was horrible and the 2nd invasion is some of the worst writing in Bleach.
Fucking japs. They also ruined Bleach’s potential with their shit taste.
>>282735039the fuck's wrong with that old hag?
>>282735470Again, Bleach needs to be pushed for more western/overseas tastes. I think the whole idea of the show is more suited for that. Trying to play into japanese hands, you'll end up nowhere because japs aren't as hardcore and you'll lose interest from overseas in a period of time where anime is being massive from taking advantage of overseas profits.
>>282707794He didn’t change his mind because using FGT wouldn’t have been enough to keep him in KT
It's crazy despite being 600 chapters, none of Ichigo's friends felt like friends and anime filler had to hard carry their relationships.
>>282735322>arc namefullbringer>chadis a fullbringer>whorohimeis a fullbringer>chad and whorohime statusmain characters but haven't got the chance to shine yet even though we're 300 eps deep>fullbringer arc stakesfar lower than before, which is now at the level of chad and the whore>kubopicrel
New figure coming soons
>OOOOOIII Anon-kun when are we going to NASCAR???
>>282736094>gets bent
>>282736028I need this holy shit
>>282735587you're right, but you're an ichirukitard, so you're now wrong
>>282736531based.
>>282735542that's neither here nor there
>>282736094Candice finding a nice human boyfriend at a nascar event!
>>282736556Just admit you were wrong already
>>282737287that's not how this game is played
>4 years later>daipa is still seething and samefagging over Bleach 24/7>just because Rukia lostkwab
>>282721655What's with that Rangiku, is it gonna be full figure or just the head and tits?
>>282730642You do realize Quilge was hyping his arrows up before that, right? When Ichigo said Uryuu's arrows were weaker than his.
>>282726671
>>282700445for family planning
>>282713361Typical zoomer edit`
>>282740661what is she looking for
>>282740851She's looking for the plot of bleach (there is none it's all kubo clashing action figures of his self inserts together)
>>282726668Breedable.
>>282710251>>282729233>>282730447>>282730642>>282735441>>282736094>>282738419>PLEASEPLEASEcareaboutthequinciesPLEASECAREEEEEEPLLEASECAREABOUTHEQQUINCIES
Cour 4 will not save the show. Too many people left after cour 3.
>>282742942Seethe>>282743060Cope
>>282743227They turned this into one of the skits at the end of an episode lol
>>282743227>Soi fon is not a dyk-ACK!!!
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>>282710251Bleach has no fathers or mothers now that I think about it wtf. The only mothers are ichigo, uryu and ryuken's mom which all only appear in backstories since they're dead. So bleach currently has 0 moms and 2 dads in the entire series.
Based chinese
Was White actively oppressed by OMZ? I read an interpretation that Ichigo's powers were really a quincy pretending as a shinigami, so before the hollowification he wasn't really using shinigami powers right?
>>282743060That's true, but there is a way to fix it.If Kubo changes the ending and make ichiruki canon, bleach would trend everywhere. Everyone would be talking about it.Immediately after that kubo drops a volume long first chapter for the hell arc, followed by a weekly serialization.Bleach would actually be back no joke. Now this will never happen because kubo wants ichihime to be canon, and even if he wanted to change it (he doesn't though), his ego wouldn't allow him to do so after he chimped out at fans that didn't like his ending.This is also assuming that kubo wants to bring back hype for the hell arc, which is also probably not true since he doesn't care to do the hell arc anymore. He made his money, and he wants to chill I think. The anime will give him closure for the final arc and allow him to flesh out what he couldn't in the last cour.So the answer is that it's theoretically possible to revive bleach if kubo wanted to do so, but there's a 0% chance it happens.
>>282745861why are you asking something that kubo doesn't know either? are you retarded?
>>282745950Bleach has a very low chance of getting revived. The way it fell down the ranks in the middle of cour 2 and cour 3 lacking buzz even among the hardcore is bad for future investment. They would need to go out with a bang for cour 4 but that's only happening if they rewrite the entire ending and redo all the fights. The battles in that portion of the manga were atrocious and the anime-only fights with Ishida massively flopped in viewership. What does this mean? They lost a bulk of the shonen audience which isn't good for a fighting anime. The fujos and only care about certain characters like Ichigo, grimmjow, and aizen, but they don't have big roles in this arc so you can't engage them. Ichiruki was the most popular ship in Bleach but Ichigo and Rukia don't interact in tybw so those fans aren't interested. Ichihime is canon, but again Ichigo and Orihime still lack screentime together and their one hug scene was ruined by the poor animation. TYBW ended up being for no one at the end and the quincies simply aren't popular characters.
Kubo is patrick when he answers Klub questions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WQ9Ua-t3DM
What happened to all the Ishihime fans after the end? Don't tell me they were actually someone else the entire time...
You are a worthless friendless faggot cocksucking piece of shitKill yourself already
>>282747714Ishihime never had actual fans. It was heavily pushed by Ichiruki's. Even still to this day. Any remnants you see of ishihime is usually done by an Ichiruki shipper. No joke. I remember seeing a really well done Ishihime sketch in 2025 only to find out it was drawn by an Ichiruki.
>>282747714
>>282747871Fuck this ugly Jewess for burning that autographed sketch of Uryuu. At least she could've sold it.
Why won't anyone care about bleach...
>>282747871>>282748183Wait what's happening in that pic? I don't get it.
>>282748191It's kinda lame
>>282745437The absolute state of Bleachtards.
>>282747871No fucking way, is this Debbie!?
>>282748229Do you not see the matchboxes? She's smiling for the camera shortly before she sets fire to her Bleach merchandise. Always hated this dumb bitch. Remember how she kept making shit up about the story to the point of creating a fake translation of Death Save the Strawberry novel to make it about IchiRuki when those two characters don't even interact? LMAO
>>282747871IH may be annoying and dumb now by I will never be gaslighted into thinking they are worse than 2008-2020 ichiruki bitches lol
>>282748287But muh English degrees
>>282747714>>282748341>IchiRuki was utter shit>IshiHime was a sock puppet for IR>IchiHime was bullied and I guess they minded their own business but they're annoying now>UlquiHime was delusional but I guess ditto with IH except they seem to be OK these daysAm I wrong? What about other Bleach ships? I'm curious since I'm too young to have been involved in the fandom back then.
>>282748229retarded jewess Uryu/IshiHime/IchiRuki stan that was mindbroken by the ending and had a massive meltdown
I still love Ichiruki regardless.
>>282748423Back then? ichiruki completely dominated with ulquihime also being popular.
>>282748571now they are both hated due to how much of a massive cunts they always have been
>>282748548I don’t think anyone can deny they had the strongest chemistry in the setting. >>282748595It’s not that bad, they still get plenty of art and fanfiction.
>>282748548Nobody says you can't. Same way you can love any Bleach ship and interact with the community and create content for them as you please. Just don't be an ass and ruin everyone else's enjoyment because you're still seething about your non-canon ship. This is what a good chunk of their fandom did in the past, and are still at it these days. It's incredibly pathetic.>>282748595UlquiHimes were never as bitchy as IchiRukis
Arrogante…
>>282748633the ulquihimes that shipped ichiruki were bitches, the ones that shipped ichihime/uryuhime weren't
>>282748694Lol you expect a shipper to support other ships that go against their OTP? There's a reason IH/RR were companions. Same way with IR/UH, although IR always preferred IshiHime more and not all UlquiHimes liked IR, especially considering how they kept spewing venom about Orihime.At least UlquiHime FC never got banned off Bleach Asylum the way the IchiRuki one did... and all of this because they wanted to shove their interpretation of volume 49's poem down everyone else's throats LMAO
never understood why RenRuki was so unpopular in the west when in comparison, the eastern fandom loved it, it's the second most popular Rukia pairing, it ranked third in the ship poll that had IR and UH at the top and to this day still has a ton of dedicated fan artists, also asian women love Renji and he doesn't get the same heat he gets from the western fandom, Hisagi is the butt of the joke in the japanese fandom.
>>282748834Nah, westerners love Renji. You sit online too much. I’ve met Renji fans in real life and they think he’s hot. All that Renji hate is pushed by angry ichirukifags due to shipping and gaslighting Uryufags.
>>282748681Nani?
>>282748975>gaslighting Uryufags.The anime didn't help with this lol
>>282748834I ended up liking Renji. He’s a sweetheart after being inspired by Ichigo. Chad too, great character and was always there for his best friend.
>>282749017Uryufags used the anime to gaslight Renjifags. Renji doesn’t have to win but he’s no longer a bad person unlike Uryu who continues to be unlikeable as usual.
>>282749131Uryuu's whole plan was stupid and I get why some idiots think he's being an asshole with how the anime made him look even worse, but he's always been a friend of the group.
>>282749058>always there for his best friend.You're not talking about Rukia, are you?
>>282749180He was a little bit too rough sometimes though
>>282748796Oh man, the big exodus of 2012 to Deathberry. And then BA got shut down for a while because of a salty ichiruki mod who was mad that the IR FC got deleted.
>Cries about people shitting on Renji>Shits on Uryu
>>282749180All the anime did was add a bunch of animeonlys think he’s trash and didn’t help that those fight scenes sort of flopped.
>>282749184No, I said Chad.
>>282749248Why do you keep calling Renji a Chad?
>>282749184Chad has been a good person from episode one.
>>282749213I'm sorry man, planning to blow the whole castle up and killing yourself in the process to defeat a guy who can see the future and make it not happen is pure retardation.
>>282749248You said Renji is "always there" for Chad?
>>282735441No one gives a fuck about Ichigo's friends except for Orihime because her tits and Uryu because yumes/fujos.
>>282749308No, Chad is always there for Ichigo. That is who Chad's best friend is. I guess you needed that context, since apparently you have no clue who could be this "best friend" in a Bleach thread.
>>282748423ichiruki really have no excuse for their attitude back then, they were the bigger fandom, they had more fanarts, more fanfics. Pierrot loved pandering to the them with fillers and merch. Yet every single day they chose to be cunts and to bully and harass the IH fandom unprovoked 99% of the time despite them being so small in comparison to IR. Their fall from grace and that they are hated by the fandom at large now is honestly karmic justice.
>>282749296More like he willfully helped the villian out, didn’t communicate, betrayed his friends and made Yhwach’s end goal closer than he was before joining.
>>282749398>Hell arc leaks also imply Aizen plans on casting Israel down into hell.Elaborate
>>282749342Whose Ichigo’s friends? You talking abour Chad right? Because Renji and Rukia get more in the fujo/ship department than either chad or uryu.
>>282749356>didn’t communicateI'm still baffled how people defend this crap. Same with Orihime never telling anyone she was being forced when she was leaving notes and shit, leading to SS to abandon her like retards because they are incapable of critical thinking. Kubo seems like the kind of guy who thinks up a cool idea first, and then bends everything else in the story to make it work.
>>282749432Ichigo's human friends of course. Rukia and Renji were always popular.
>>282749468Just as Ichigo is, the people he hangs with all seem to have martyr complex, Rukia did the same in the SS arc.
>>282749468Ulquiorria threatened her if she told anyone. Uryu wasn’t threatened and didn’t use any of the freetime he had to tell his friends beforehand.
Do you think Mayuri would make a Nemu for Uyru as a favor?
>>282749531At least Rukia had an ACTUAL martyr complex because she was still hung-up about Kaien, and thought she deserved to die for killing him. Thankfully this receives a closure when she kills Aaroniero and acknowledges he left his heart behind with her and that's what matters.>>282749586He threatened her but she still healed Ichigo's hand and left evidence she was there. How the fuck would they know if she just left a note saying she's been coerced and this is not done "of her free will" like that retarded geezer Genryusai was 100% certain it was.
>>282749531Rukia is different and she didn’t want a 15 year old getting caught up in SS bullshit. She was going to take all the punishment onto herself and her decisions. Meanwhile Uryu knew they were getting involved since the beginning. That and TYBW is poorly written.
>>282749616He'll give him his one true wife.
I was always a Tastuki fan. I like small, tomboy sexy girls who share my interests but is comparatively too weak to harm me.Or his homeroom teacher.
>>282749346Chad is 100% Ichigo’s best friend.
>>282749695I miss those old scans so much
>>282749695
>>282749644Because Ulquiorra allowed her to say goodbye to one person.
>>282749752You and I came from a time when manga was fun to talk to other people about. And they were niche. And I mocked people for dubs of anime.
>>282749745Ichigo definitely is to Chad, but I'm not sure if Ichigo reciprocates. I wouldn't be shocked he if it's actually Rukia or Renji or Uryuu. After all, first come first served doesn't count... just ask Tatsuki, his childhood friend.
>>282749759she's a lesbian you chud
>>282749827you can't be this retarded
>>282749815And she also left notes to Hitsugaya and Rangiku about what to do with the household chores before she said goodbye to Ichigo. I'm asking you how the fuck would Ulquiorra know if she penned down a request for help alongside "Goodbye Halcyon Days".
>>282749840She's very sexually submissive to men. "Pretend to be dyke" all she wants, Ichigo and other powerful men put her on her knees and blush.
>>282749873This is Ichigo before he got know any of those three people.
>>282749677Uyru deserves better than her
>>282749824>And I mocked people for dubs of anime.People still shit on dubfags though?
>>282749873He’s a speedreader whose desperate to shit on chad. Their backstory was one of the best written parts of early Bleach.
okay so you are retarded thanks
>>282749926That's assuming he has a choice.
God I miss classic filler episodes with the crew together like that Halloween and genie lamp episode. Kubo is a lazy fuck.
>>282749941Chad is easy to shit on, no need to be desperate about it. His actual relationship with Ichigo is shallow and overshadowed by others like Rukia, Renji or Uryuu.
ok retard
Bleach should’ve gone hard on the romance.
>>282750015My favorite filler episode is the one where Unohana, Rangiku, and Senjumaru all took turns mommy dom raping me and tickling my prostate.
Kubo 100% has porn of Ichigo and crew drawn. All artists do this.
>>282750151Icefag...
>>282750015Those were pretty shit.
OG anime was so bad, why did they waste all the good animation on filler or low priority fights while the important fights were shit??
>>282750215
>>282750270propaganda so good Noriyuki Abe could work for the N. Korean government
>>282750215There’s not a single filler animated as well as Ichigo vs Grimmjow or even Ginjo vs Ichigo. And the weekly schedule made it harder to prioritize due to time constraints and constant staff rotation. Unlike cour 2 which was fucked over due to the black clover movie.
>>282713542>and the core formula that got many of us hooked on Bleach to begin with.SS Arc is what hooked new people. Rukiafags like you were always the minority compared to the new readers. It doesn't help that Rukia barely appear in the SS ArcKubo could have killed Rukia in this arc and sales wouldn't have been affected at all
>>282750346Byakuya vs Kouga was really well done
Fav Bleach girls?
>>282750151I missed this episode bros
>>282750375They were good, but not better.
>>282715368>You need to learn your Zanpakuto's name to use ShikaiThat is not even a real Zanpakuto.
>>282750471Kubo was making shit up as he went. Back then that was his actual zanpakuto.
>>282750503NTA
>>282750575Because Ichigo always unique since chapter one. He’s a getsuga spammer with raw stats from beginning to end.
>>282750575Anon, Byakuya was making fun of his small unimpressive sword there. He wasn't seriously implying that wasn't his Bankai. You think this is foreshadowing for the real Bankai against Yhwach or something?
>>282750575He easily speedblitzed Byakuya and white demonstrated how easy it could be if he actually learned how to control it. It was never supposed to be a normal zanpakuto like regular shinigami.
>>282750260More animation than Unohana vs Zaraki
>>282750843I was shocked at how bad that was. And ugly red color made it an eyesore. How do you manage to fuck up a KENPACHI fight?????
>>282749355>Yet every single day they chose to be cunts and to bully and harass the IH fandom unprovoked 99% of the time despite them being so small in comparison to IRNice way to out yourself as a newfag. Back then ichiruki fans didn't even care about ichihime fans. That's how big the difference was. Ichiruki dominated ALL the bleach ships by a large margin. Nobody could touch them, and they didn't care about the rest.If anything, the ulquihime fans bullied the ichihime, that's how much the ichiruki thought they had it in the bag and didn't care.Then the ending came, ichiruki got btfo, kubo got harassed, no new content, fanbase left, and only a subgroup of autists stayed behind. And the group that stayed behind were those that worshipped kubo, and so of course they would be ichihime fans since kubo gave them what they wanted.Now ichihime is far more popular than ichiruki, because bleach's fanbase is only a fraction of what it used to be. The current fanbase is not critical at all of the final adaptation (because only the kubo stans stayed behind) and they're even gaslighting others into accepting that the TYBW was always good. If you even think that the cour 1 was close to how popular bleach was back then you're mistaken. Cour 1 was an great success, but it was still far from bleach's peak. Many oldfags didn't come back (which is expected with anything that takes a long hiatus).So no, ichiruki fans didn't care at all about ichihime or anything else. The only thing that I can grant you is that as with any big fanbase, you will have a few loud bad apples. So of course there were some ichiruki fans that shat on ichihime. That's true of literally any relatively big fandom. But saying that ichiruki fans actively shat on ichihime is simply wrong, uninformed and retarded, which is expected of a newfaggot.
>>282750962>t. actual newfag
>>282750962/thread
>>282750962nice meltdown faggot
>>282750962So true, Ichiruki eclipsed everything. It must suck to not have been around when Bleach was bigger, it was so much fun.
>>282750346I remember ichigo vs the green haired guy (forgot his name). There's a popular clip of one of their fights that's very well done, and probably the most well animated fight in the old bleach.There's also ichigo vs ginjo that has good animation, and ichigo vs ulquiorra. Maybe dangai ichigo vs aizen? idk though haven't seen that one in years. Overall, the fillers had as good as animation as the canon, but this shouldn't be case. They should dump all their budget on canon stuff.
>>282751104I remember that fight. It’s just more flashy than Ichigo vs Grimmjow but I don’t think it’s as good.
>>282751225Why did he stare for that long?
>>282750962Bro I remember the meltdown when Orihime confessed back in 2007. IRtards were always petty bullies. Your whitewashing isn't fooling anyone. Cope and seethe.
>>282751225>Rukia is a dyke
>>282750962Yes they didn't care at all that's why they made tumblr accounts to harass and dox IH fans and made essays of how much IH sucks and had a gay little thread on Deathberry to shit on IH fans arts and fics.Fucking lying nigger.
>>282750962Facts, anyone saying otherwise is a revisionist faggot.
>>282750962Exactly. IchihimeTARDS didn't even register on the IchirukiCHADS's radar. Even Pierrot were on the Ichiruki train. You can only understand if you actually grew up watching bleach. Literally nobody cared about ichihime. Nobody. It was ichiruki and ulquihime, which are still the best ships to date.
hmmkill yourself
Okay, now you are pushing the samefagging.
>>282751236maybe, I'm just going from memory, you could be right.
>>282750824>He easily speedblitzed ByakuyaI still hate that to this day.
>>282751270he's not gay
>>282751453>t.Byakuya
>>282751349>had a gay little thread on Deathberry to shit on IH fans arts and fics.This is a level of petty where I just can't help but admire the effort
>>282750503>>282750575In Ichigo's Inner World, we see White and the bankai. Yhwach and the bankai never appeared together until he appeared as "Tensa Zangetsu", no? Ichigo himself thought that White was simply in the way/took over. But that's not the case as seen during Final Getsuga's training (OMZ has never used any of Zangetsu's abilities, merging with White is a good cover)Tensa Zangetsu argued that he changed because of the bankai state but that should have applied to White too since they're both Zangetsu, however White's design in the Inner World only changed in these chapters. if the sword was a real zanpakuto then it would have changed Inner World's White during Shinji's training. White had to take over externally to change internally. no zanpakuto does thisthis stuff was barely discussed back then because everyone and their mother thought the White was lying
knew that IR was washed when I saw a ichihime artist and ichiruki artist both do an art trend on Xitter and the IH got more likes, this would never had happened on 2012
>>282751606Thank you for cover up Kubo's messes, he expects his fans to do this when he himself doesn't care.
>>282751104lmaolol even >>282747871
>>282751749(me)oops, was for this >>282750962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qE8GmYwfo4&list=RD0qE8GmYwfo4&start_radio=1
>>282751273>>282751349You both didn't understand a word I wrote. There were definitely some loud retards that tried to shit on anything they didn't like, but this doesn't mean that the overall fanbase was the same. Ichiruki fans were practically the whole bleach fanbase. They were the overwhelming majority.I'm not even a shipfag, I'm just stating how things were back then as I remember them. I'm a hellfag, as long as kubo writes the hell arc I'm happy.>I remember the meltdown when Orihime confessed back in 2007Again, not true. Back then even ichihime fans were talking about unrequited love because orihime didn't follow up with the kiss, and they weren't necessarily happy because of the perceived emotions of ichigo towards rukia. You seem to forget that in the same arc orihime was feeling inferior to rukia, and this confession only seemed to reinforce that orihime loved ichigo but she felt that she didn't have a chance.As I said there were definitely retards that took every opportunity to shit on the other side, but this scene back wasn't even considered as a win for orihime in general.
the victor rewrites history as he desires
>>282751668>Thank you for cover up Kubo's messesKubo covered them himself. Ichigo's stuff is a mess, yes. Kubo then explained why it is a mess.If anything, you come off as salty, that that wasn't the explanation you wanted.if you want to point fingers, point at mayuri
>>282751774You also didn't understand a word I wrote. Ichiruki fans got btfo WHEN the ending came, then the mindbreak and harassment started. They were harassing kubo so much that he had to come out on twitter and talk about them. Before that they didn't care at all. They thought they had it in the bag. It's not even that they thought they had it. It wasn't even a competition in their eyes. It was a given. It was established that ichiruki was THE ship and that's it, by practically everyone.I was only talking before the ending.
>>282747871the never ending humiliation of irfags
>>282752045I mean it was just the ships, the entire ending of Bleach was horrible. Reading it live was a terrible experience. Weeks of side character fights and no plot progression.
at least ir and uh are allowed to exist in their small corners, narusaku got erased from existance
Do Bleach fujos argue? Like did Aiichi and Grimmichi fanatics ever have issues?
bro, you told us how much you hate the last arc like a million times every thread, get a job and fuck off already
>>282750962Holy newfag go back to xitterI was part of the Bleach fandom since 2009Shitty bаit and shitty opinion
>>282752103I think one of the reasons narusaku is dead is first because naruto is a dead series now (boruto is fanfic tier most people left), and second because many narusakutards were converted to naruhina. At least that's what happened to me.Sakura was always hated, because she treated naruto like shit, and hinata didn't have any enemies. Hinata also has one of the most epic moments when she tries to save naruto against pain.The biggest problem was that it seemed like a last minute change so people hated that, but the pairings made sense. Also if sasuke doesn't end up with sakura, he only has karin, which was a side character (I wish she had more screentime, or at least some interactions with naruto being an uzumaki). So him ending up with karin would be weird for the sequel I guess.Naruto saying that he always liked hinata was retarded. Even in the last war when his dad sees sakura he asks naruto if she's his gf, and he kinda says yes. NaruHina was a last minute thing, but it still made sense kinda. So many converted like me.
I distinctively remember that when "The Lust" chapters where dropping Bleach Asylum mods had to lock full threads and issue several bans due to how unhinged ichirukis were being.
>>282752389Anyone could say "This happened on Bleach Asylum" when the site has been wiped and you can't provide direct evidence for it.
>>282752044>Ichiruki fans got btfo WHEN the ending came, then the mindbreak and harassment started.Delusional IRfag, why was your fandom busy "debunking" IH moments if you had more IR ones? Threatened much?
>>282752389That IRfaggot pretending to not be a shipper can lie all he wants, but it's known IRukis were very petty and arrogant back then, which is why the downfall of their ship was so satisfying and they had to resort to NTR to feel validation against the fact they lost.
>>282752116Why would they argue when they can form a threesome?
The fact IR is still a conversation to this day says more about the 'quality' of IH.
>>282752477You can say the same for the straight ships
Just returned to the Bleach thread to see if things improved and is just the same shit of shipfaggotry and the same guy complaining about his headcanons not becoming true. Time to keep hibernating till the anime returns I guess.
>>282752103NaruSaku died because it was the smaller of the big 4 ships and couldn't compare with NH or SS, on NaruSasu remains as the most popular around.IchiRuki, and to a lesser extent UlquiHime, endured because of how massive they were back in the day but their staying power waned year by year and continues to do so today, with cour 4 coming and a possible Hell arc on the way they will too disappear eventually like NS did with Boruto.
>>282752490it's actually more on how pathetic IRfags are
Gremmy won & he lost
>Choose your fighter!>>282747871vs>>282752560
Isn't this technically another Ichiruki?
>>282752616The winner is the one who set his apartment on fire when he tried to burn his manga copies in the bathroom.
>>282752616Jesus H Chist, is IR a fucking a cult? And here I thought modern ichirukis are annoying, I am so glad I wasn't around when the ending dropped.
>Orihimeschizo samefagginglmao.
>>282752691Sad really.
>>282752609Gremmy lost?
>>282752652I heard he screamed "ICHIRUKI BANZAI! ONORE KUBO!!" as his flesh burned away.
shipping does seem to attract some mentally unstable individuals no matter the fandom
>>282752616the rukia cosplayer is the only one I saw, the other uglier chick I never even heard of
>>282752531You are correct, aiichihime sounds hot
>>282752797>newfag doesn't know about debbie
>>282749752God i miss waiting for spoilers on a Thursday morning
>>282752812Orihime sandwiched between Ichigo and Aizen. Can you imagine…
>>282752911Ichigo is the on in the middle actually, he gives it to Orihime while Aizen gives it to him from behind
Our heroines are so cool.
Grimmjow-
I just hope we get more of those two next cour. Best thing would probably be a scene of Nel healing Grimmjow.
kazui x nemuriichika x grimmnel future son
>>282753192Grimjow is such a tsundere. It's okay to admit that you find Nel attractive, baka
Grimmjow needs to have a son with Nelliel so he can complete his transformation into Bejita by having his own Trunks
>>282753382Renji is the Bejita of Bleach
>>282737600But I won so easily
Not a fujo, but Grimmjow unironically only has eyes for Ichigo.
Japan ruined Bleach.
>>282753490Then you are just gay if that's how you see things
>>282708936>>282711120Same thing is happening with Fujimoto right now. He even came out with a big interview that made it clear he's a "panster" writer that doesn't plan and just does what comes to him in the moment and yet people still laud him as this mastermind just because he makes movie references and has a postmodern writing style. To think people are still dickriding him after the disaster that CSM Part 2 is almost concerning.
The Karakura Squad
>>282753650And Rukia I guess
>>282753650Uryu is so handsome...
>>282743813>posts the Yushiro panel to further shit on this faggot
>>282753650didn't someone say that China loves IR and hates Orihime? Why does this slop game seems to push Orihime more then?
>>282753799The era of ichiruki pandering is over
>>282753799China never hated Orihime, they just perfer the Rukia ship. And they don’t really care about her. But some chinese women expressed how disgusting that image is. Not because of Orihime but how it portrays women as an object for the male gaze.
>>282753858>But some chinese women expressed how disgusting that image is. Not because of Orihime but how it portrays women as an object for the male gaze.I laughed
>>282753843context for this image? I don't play bbs
>>282753843I hope the IRfag who cried about BtW "replacing" Rukia in the waiting screen is happy now since they brought Rukia back.
>>282753028Uryuu...
I am glad that the last Jump Festa (for the foreseeable future) that Bleach will be part of will be presented by the OG squad
>>282754158Rukia VA should’ve been there too, retard. Nobody gives a damn about Ichigo’s lame friends, this is terrible marketing
>>282752444I'm not a shipfag, I've made that clear.You're braindead, you've made that clear.It's like I'm talking to a wall, wtf. You saw a couple of retards being retarded and assumed the whole ichiruki fandom (ie most of the bleach fandom) had an agenda against ichihime. You still don't understand that ichiruki WAS bleach. If you liked bleach you most likely preferred ichiruki. If you didn't live through it, don't talk like you did.
>>282754444Why are you pretending to be an ichirukifag to start conflict?
>>282754444Rukia will not do anything in the last cour, give up on your cope and die
>>282754444Cope. Uryu's popularity is gonna breakthrough in Cour 4.Fujos will make sure of it with all the yaoi doujins they are gonna draw of him and Hashbrown
>>282754863LolLmao even. NTA but that’s not happening. I’ll be forgotten the moment the cour ends. And so will hashbrown whose bigger fujo bait than Uryu could ever be.
>>282754924Anon, you are not prepared. Trust the plan.
>>282755139Neither of which have tons of dedicated fujo circles and the Bleach fandom is shrinking.
>>282754863He can barely get ichiishi content and Ichigo is the most popular shipping character and fandom bicycle. If that struggles then uryuhash is bound to flop.
It pains me that we will never have good Bleach porn again, even Iwao went to shit and he was already bad.
Unironically the better fujo ship, even though white hasn't shown up for years.
One thing I learned being in a fandom is that the popular characters in shipping generally don't change, they just rotate a bit.
We haven't even touched the surface of how dedicated these schizos are. They're talent people, but jesus christ lmao.
Who sent Aizen????????????????
>>282756690Um, where are you looking? Aizupp Heer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=almG54sVBuw&list=RDalmG54sVBuw&start_radio=1This is so good. OG Bleach openings were great.
China continues to be based.
>>282756690When in doubt, it's the jews. Always.
Zommari dropped so many truth bombs about SS and it's corruption.
>>282750962>Now ichihime is far more popular than ichirukiIchiruki still dwarfs Ichihime in fanfiction and fanart to this day so how are you measuring this?Iwao drawing cuck porn isn't the win for Ichihime that you think it is.
>>282698981Never understood why the anime gave her orange hair when there's already another orange haired female char with bimbo body type
>>282735415In a fight or
>IRfaggot is the one posting cuck pornyou cannot make this shit up
>>282754480>the whole ichiruki fandom (ie most of the bleach fandom)>. You still don't understand that ichiruki WAS bleach>If you liked bleach you most likely preferred ichirukiLOL, delusion at its finest
>>282760563>how are you measuring thisBy what I see on all social media, especially compared to what I used to see 10-15 years ago.Ichiruki fans simply moved on (and by that the bleach fanbase as a whole moved on). The bleach fanbase is a shadow of what it used to be, like it or not. People grew up lol. Many ichiruki fans simply stopped caring, even if they might still watch bleach. Many came to like ichihime over time.Look at the general fanbase; the normalfags. Don't go into some obscure forum (like /a/), or on some fanart/hentai sites. Those do NOT represent the community, far from it. Go look at reddit, instagram, twitter. Look at the discussions. What characters people talk about, what people care about. Most people just came to term with the ending, and so that's going to be the most popular thing, since everyone will be talking about it. It's been established that ichihime is canon, everyone just runs with it now and have accepted it.>>282760789When you see both ichihime and ichiruki fans getting mad at my post, you just know I'm right. Both sides just can't accept any facts if it's not the facts they like. I'll never understand shipfags, especially in a shounenshit where all romance is garbage.
You are a fucking retard
282760922you sound like an autistic faggot ngl
>>282750962I'm in the famdom since 2007, that is not true at all. Ichiruki fans always felt very threated by ichihime since Orihime's love confession, they knew that was the route that Kubo was going but they didn't want to admit it. Later Kubo even said that Ichigo and Rukia didn't have romantic feelings for each other.Ichigo wowing to protect Orihime, him carrying her over his shoulder, Orihime asking Ichigo don't get hurt anymore and he stopping Grimmjow when he heard her, Ichigo getting mad at Ulquiorra when he knew he had kidnapped Orihime, forgetting to go to help Rukia, and the Lust arc, with Ichigo rising to protect Orihime, got them really crazy.They had to write hundred of essays to shit on ichihime and Orihime to try to feel better and have some hope, lol, and fight ichihime fans all the time on the Bleach forums. I discussed a lot with ichiruki fans on mangafox forums and other sites. They have always tried to distort the manga and now the history.
He's the same retard that's always spamming these threads, only this time he choose shipping faggotry to bump this garbage, why are you even giving him the time of day?
>>282700296Cut off right's head and attach it onto left's body and vica versa, then I'll choose
It's so weird finding out Ulquiorra was this short years later. I thought they were the same height.
>>282745950Here ichiruki delusional ego again.You should accept that ichiruki is not that influencial. The last Bleach volume sold fine. The renruki novel, We do knot always love you, had better sales than the supposed ichiruki novel, The death save the strawberry. You are always telling lies like the ones in the image.
>>282761200Ulquiorra had the worst fate, his body was destroyed, his worldview shattered and nobody gave a fuck about him after he died so he really had a meaningless life and death all things considered.Now that I think about it all the Espada who died had the worst possible deaths in accordance to their chosen aspect of death.
Where are the links to HOAD 1 and 2 when you need them
>>282761200Here Ichigo was 1,74 m and Ulquiorra is 1,69 m, it's only 5 cm of difference
>>282761248>We do knot always love youNTA, but Ichigo and Rukia don't even interact in the "ichiruki" novel, it's basically just a how do we get Ichigo's powers back with Ichigo himself not doing anything. Almost like an extension of the fullbring arc. We do knot always love you felt more like an actual romance inspired writing with the canon couples actually doing shit with each other.
>>282761284I actually really like that, sure some didn't deserved it, but the Espadas having ironic, cruel deaths was some of the best moments in the manga.
>>282726671Being an hybrid makes you a soul king candidate, you need something more, like the Hogyoku, to be a true soul king. Despite this Ichibe mentions Ichigo too could be used to stabilize the worlds, probably he has his ways to "promote" one.
Is she the most worthless character in this manga? Like what the fuck does she even do? Seriously, I can recall at least ONE thing the other lieutenants did yet she does NOTHING of note in the entire goddamn story!
The soul king is a fucking idiot
>>282761314But ichiruki fans thought that it was an ichiruki novel, and the Japanese fans bought the novel before knowing didn't have much ichiruki content (only Rukia helping Ichigo to get his powers, yes), and plus, it had a card with Ichigo and Rukia as a gift, and they even bought it to have the card. They themselves called it an ichiruki novel.We do knot always love you sold more, and you can say that this novel also told more things about other characters, but even the novels Can't fear your own world, sold much less that it.
>>282761447Ichiruki fans started to call Rukia a queen since they saw this card, lol
>>282761447What Ichiruki fans? The characters don’t have any form of interaction. Zero romantic hints or any friendly banter. Ichigo himself isn’t in the story other than being mentioned. And having a card attached won’t change the novel content or future word of mouth.
How long is the Orihimeschizo going to argue with themselves to bump the thread?
>>282747871>>282752560>>282752730why the obsession with burning stuff can't they just sell it?
Boop boop
>>282761522>>282761535Soul king beings smell like delicate soothing flowers. Their genes are evolved to be perfect with a godlike scent.
>>282761496Japanese fans buy the novels before knowing its content, the bigger sales are in the first week. They knew the novel was about Rukia helping Ichigo to recover his powers, the novel was promoted like that. Plus, I'm telling you they bought the novel to have the card too. The Japanese ichiruki blogs was talking about it at that time.
>>282761577They already knew the context and basic description. The timeframe didn’t have Ichigo and Rukia interact, so it’s not an actual shipping bait Ichiruki novel. That’s common sense unless you’re an idiot or ignorant to the plot of Bleach during certain arcs. You keep mentioning all these chronically online blogs most of which are probably gone or never existed. Now if it was a novel about Ichigo and Rukia getting married that would’ve been completely different.
And I’m heading to bed. Waste more of your time samefagging all night before this gets archived.
>>282761559Why are they always being interrupted?
>>282761690People who bought the novel didn't know that Ichigo and Rukia didn't interact in the novel, they commented their deception in their blogs but they had already bought the novel (you are delusional if you think these blogs didn't exist. Before people emigrate to twitter the Japanese fandom was in personal blogs, places where the Western fandom would get the Jump Festa reports too). And they had bought it anyway because of the gift card.Plus, this novel was sold in 2012, Bleach popularity was bigger than in 2016, because the anime had just ended, so there was more people interested in Bleach, and even so, The death save the strawberry sold less than We do knot always love you. Even the novel Spirits are forever with you, puhlisehed in 2012 too, and written by the same author as Can't fear your own world, sold way more than The death save the strawberry. But We do knot always love you sold more than Can't fear you own world. Interesting.
Been watching Bleach and got to where the 3rd movie was released. Much better than the second one, felt like it Ichigo was in new game+ and speedran the soul society arc. My only problem is that if you watch it between episodes 198 and 199 like it was released it spoils Urahara's past as a captain.
>>282761284Nnoitra had a pretty good death.
>>282762229Said nobody ever
>>282762275I just said that.
>>282760750nell's ahegao...
>>282762108Urahara being a former captain is revealed in the Soul Society arc tho.
>>282761284Baraggan had a way worse death.
>>282761507Rent free
>>282761284>>282761322>nobody gave a fuck about him after he died so he really had a meaningless life and death all things considered.That's on Kubo messing up. Ulquiorra was supposed to leave his heart to Orihime after death, y'know, like Kaien did with Rukia. I have 0 clue why she never brought him up once, even in TYBW when she bemoans the war and talks about helping the Arrancar. Ironically, the last person who brings Ulquiorra up is Aizen, when talking about recognizing Tatsuki from his report.I find it more ironic considering Kubo said Ulquiorra's death was his favorite part of the entire Arrancar saga, followed by Orihime's confession and then Kaien talking about the heart in Rukia's flashback. If Kubo wanted him to have a cruel, meaningless death he wouldn't have emphasized it so much; he'd die a shitty death like Szayel or Zommari did.
rukia loves Kaien/Ichigo and Kubo made her into a whore by pairing her with someone else.
>>282745861It's not that deep. Kubo is too stupid for something as creative as that. He's a substitute shinigami and the power scales don't make sense because the writer doesn't make sense.
IRfag is on meltdown hours I see.
>>282710527stuff like this is why Ichigo's so popular with girls both in and out of story and a few guys who want to feel as cherish and loved as ichigo
>>282763133It's not even explicit she loved Kaien, it's just implied, and it's not rock solid. And there is zero implication she loved Ichigo, my dear salty IRcuck. Renji was her precious childhood friends with whom she had a breakup arc and Ichigo brought them together again. She was always a mentor figure and good friend to Ichigo, not a romantic interest.
>>282743227I hope Youruchi was gentle at least Kyone looks traumatized
>>282761872Because as Kyoraku said in the novel, he doesn't trust Aizen with Ichigo, Aizen even says as such himself they don't trust him to speak to Ichigo ever not because they fear he could turn Ichigo against Soul Society but because they don't trust that he won't try to do something to the kid, kinda like keeping your kid away from the pedo uncle in your family
>>282763291
>>282763237It's implied Rukia loved Renji. If Rukia loved Renji she never loved Kaien.
>>282764996Rukia was separated from him for over 40 years. She was lonely and insecure and dealing with Byakuya's autism too. Her falling in love with Kaien while still kindling some romantic feelings for Renji is not irreconcilable, because humans aren't rational when it comes to emotions.
500 for yoruichi's butt
>>282765047But it wouldn't be real love, it would only be a substitute, a projection of her feelings for Renji with who she couldn't have the relationship she wanted.
>>282765211Now you're nitpicking. Just because it's a projection doesn't diminish her romantic feelings. And it being a projection is just your assumption; Kaien was nothing like Renji. By your logic, is Ichigo's love towards Orihime lesser because she's like Masaki, and he's therefore projecting?
>>282760922>redditThey literally ban you from talking about Ichiruki on that website.You want an open forum? Every ichihime comment in a sadpanda post gets mass downvotes and Ichiruki upvotes.
>>282763237>It's not even explicit she loved Kaien, it's just implied, and it's not rock solidYou're the sort of retard that requires shounen anime to spend 5+ minutes explaining everything that just happened in a 5 second fight scene.Come on anon are you that desperate to keep this thread bumped?
>>282765431Bruh, are you serious? Yes, this scene, combined with the fact that she felt so horrible for killing him for so long, Byakuya bringing him up when Ichigo is bleeding and the relationship chart strongly suggests she harbored such feelings, but it's not explicit because nowhere in the story is there's indisputable evidence she loved him. Even the chart calls it "admiration" although other relationships are plainly described too; like Gin & Rangiku are just "childhood friends". I'm just not absolute about it; same way I wouldn't say Ichigo loved Orihime romantically from chapter 1 like I've heard some people claim. Just go on social media and try to talk about this theory to the retarded fans; they'll hear none of it and call you IR for even bringing it up.
Death to all shipperfaggots.
>>282765519Wouldn't this imply Hitsugaya and Hinamori love each other? How come they didn't get together?
>>282765714Dunno, ask Kubo. He's the one who has to have approved its inclusion in the recent reprint of SAFWY.
>>282765246>Kaien was nothing like RenjiThe contrary, they are pretty similar in character , especially they are both outgoing and very social people.Your comparison is stupid because Ichigo loved Masaki as a mom, not as a lover.Rukia separated from Renji still loving him, so that love never faded, and because of that she married him in the end. Rukia never loved Kaien or her love was only projection, that is what I think, you can think what you want.
>>282765519The fact that here there isn't any line for Renji and Rukia's relationship implies that this chart is not made by Kubo, or that Kubo was trying to hide the nature of Renji and Rukia's relationship,which would clearly indicate that their relationship was romantic love.
>>282766101>Romantic loveThey knew each other for <10 years, never did anything romantic with each other and then didn't speak or even see each other for 40+ years.Hell their reunion is Renji trying to kill her
>>282765861Not in the recent reprint, the chart has been in that novel since it was published in 2012. The first graphic of that chart appeared in 2011 in an exhibition for the Bleach 10th anniversary it was a giant chart on a wall . And for the novels they changed things and added lines. I think it's clear it wasn't supervised by the own author, Kubo simply doesn't care about chart.
>>282766209They knew each other for more than 10 years, even maybe 16 years (imagine thinking that is not time enough to fall in love, lol), part of that period were various years where they were teenagers, where people falls in love.And, if you had reading comprehension, you would know Renji never tried to kill Rukia.I'm sorry for you, Rukia always loved Renji, your ship never had a chance.
>>282766240Kubo was even asked about it on Twitter, I believe. Just because it's unknown if he made it doesn't mean it's not canon.
>>282766585But he didn't confirm he did it or supervised. It would be very strange that the chart was supervised again to include it in the novel and they forgot to put Renji and Rukia's relationship again.
>>282766732The chart is unchanged from the 2011 version. I'm pretty sure Kubo wanted to hide their relationship since they'd have mutual pink lines tagged "childhood friends" like Gin and Rangiku.
>>282766899>The chart is unchanged from the 2011 versionNo they changed. For exampe, in the first chart Rangiku's and Hitsugaya's lines towars Gin and Hinamori were one-sided. In the novels they changed it to two-sided
>>282767120
>>282767120>>282767158WtfThey looked identical here >>282765519>>282765861Does that mean they altered the chart in a SAFWY reprint?
>>282766416>than 10 years, even maybe 16 yearsNope. Renji and Rukia grew into adults at a regular human rate, timeline lines up with that + their kid grows at the same speed as them.
>>282767285>Does that mean they altered the chart in a SAFWY reprint?Yes
>>282767381>Renji and Rukia grew into adults at a regular human rateThey were around 10 yeras old when the met, so they would be 20+ when they stopped talking, so already young adults
>>282767285>>282767416I'm sorry I meant tot in the reprint, in the first print was already like that
>>282767285>Does that mean they altered the chart in a SAFWY reprint?The first chart is for the exhibition at the Harajuku festival for the Bleach 10th anniversary. It was a huge panel on a wall.In 2012 they included it in the novels, and they already changed here. They put the same chart in the reprint of the noivel as the first print.
>>282767416Okay then. Since it's from 2012 I guess the theory regarding RenRuki behind hidden holds, but it's weird they changed things about it. Could Kubo have added these changes? I don't think anyone else would.
>>282767769I can understand making GinRan mutual, but HitsuHina? They're still not together even in the one shot. I doubt Kubo supervised this change.
