Why has there been so much doomposting since this movie released?
>>282699731One Piece will save the mess this IP and movie series made.
K-On season 3 will save the mess this IP and movie series made.
>>282699731More people getting into anime is not a problem, but investors getting into anime is a big problem, and big money means investors jumping on it like fleas, there gotta be a way to scare investors.
>>282699906We need Made in Abyss to scare them away
>>282699731The less western fans a series has, the better. Just look at how brain dead and obnoxious dragon ball and narutards are.
>>282699731Rom com and slice of life fags continuing to seethe
Name one thing he did wrong.>pro-tip: you can't
>>282699731>Kill animeWhy? What's with this retarded-ass sentiment?
>>282699906This wouldnt be an issue if retarded lefties didn't alienate the customer base that actually pays for shit with their political propaganda.
>>282699776>dying manga and animeuh okay bud
>>282699731Doomposting from the haters
>>282699731Normalfags from /v/ who only speak in terms of drama keep drumming up how this is super significant or whatever because some people on twitter used words they didn't like.>>282699906People who invest in anime very quickly realize that there is minimal money to be made via western channels. The majority of anime profits still exist within Asian channels and anyone who sits in on shareholders meetings would know that.That's why Sony, despite having so much of their games industry be western centric, is every eastern centric with anime despite having the sway to do something truly absurd like, say, having anime exclusive air worldwide via Crunchyroll and mandating how studios handle said anime.That's because video games make the majority of their money on a global stage while anime make the majority of their money on a niche stage. Any money a site like CR makes is a general amount, and no singular anime on there will make as much as a lot of Sony's other anime will make on merch/gacha/BD/CD sales in Japan alone.
>>282699731>NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!>KIMETSU IZU SHITTO!!!!>WANPISSU MASUTO BI BESUTO ANIME EVAAAAAAA!>KANNOTO BI TORUUUUUU
>>282700204There is money to make in the west, but it's only on anime series that have actual appeal and not the piles of shit that you see on /a/ every day that are basically romance, slice of life, and rom com in different flavors and the general audience doesn't give a fuck about those.In other words, we are not going to see an entertaining spectacle as big as demon slayer for a good while.
>>282700399No there really isn't.The list of anime series that could theoretically be independently successful without Japan to similar current extents are:>PokemonPretty sure more people buy the anime outside Japan than inside Japan.>Dragon Ball Hence why most of its significant announcements now occur in America. >Cowboy BebopSolely because you can only rerelease the same 26 episode show so many times. And with DB, I'm not even sure because it's a huge merch driver and there's a lot of people importing shit from Japan- would that still be nearly as successful without Japan? Kimetsu no Yaiba, similarly, is not independently successful to an acceptable extent outside Japan. People watch it, yeah, but those movie ticket sales and episode streams aren't really enough, they need people to buy the BDs, to buy the merch, to buy the soundtracks, to buy the promotional drinks/foods, etc. etc., which doesn't happen in the west (and not for lack of trying).
>>282699731Mindbroken virgin!
Anime has been dead for years, I only come here to look at cute anime girls, I don't even know what series most of them are from at this point. It's all just disposable slop after 2015ish.
>>282699731If anime becomes mainstream I won't be able to feel special for watching it
>>282700204I personally feel like Videogames could still be profitable just catering to Japanese otaku. The Japanese market in general is very good and self sufficient. The Japanese game companies that cater to the West or have been sold to the West lose a lot of money and are only kept afloat because of their classics. The only reason videogames are viewed as for the globe is because the western game industry basically tricked everyone into thinking it mattered the most because they were salty that they consistently lost to the Japanese. I feel like the reason this doesn't work for anime and manga is because the West makes nothing similar of quality. The Japanese feel no pressure to emulate something else, foreign interference being limited to a few sanitized isekai shows made for China. People here are also very weird and particular about the medium they enjoy things through, making it unlikely that anime and manga will ever truly blossom for the foreseeable future. It is honestly a miracle videogames managed to take off here.
>>282700543Its been mainstream for like 20 years
>>282700554More like 30. Let's not pretend that this place is full of oldfags.
>>282699731only shonen fags seethe. now every battle shonen is going to have way more lasers and rotating cameras and random ass flashbacks that wreck the pacing of a story.
>>282700548>I personally feel like Videogames could still be profitable just catering to Japanese otaku.No they can't. They cost way more money to produce than anime, with way more competition, with way more overhead, with way more investor expectations.When Sony invests in games, it's to invest in what they know is assuredly successful, which are large scale western centric productions with some kind of multiplayer / microtransaction hook. When Sony invests in anime, they invest in merch vehicles with dense potential for large fan followings to support those merch vehicles for the Japanese side, and for the western side, they invest in just controlling the narrative on where to watch anime, which is on Sony sites and storefronts, because that's the height of anime profitability outside Japan. Most people outside Japan do not buy other materials in large enough numbers to justify deeper investment, and production is too costly/profit margins too large to restructure around streaming for a western centric perspective. For the games example, Sony's biggest failures were the non-traditional games or Japanese games. Japan Studio was marred by failures, I think Keiichiro Toyama never actually worked on a game that was financially successful under Sony- he made Siren and Gravity Rush. Ico and Shadow the Colossus were successful to an extent, but they bled into western design tropes later on (and the third game was a pretty notable failure), stuff like that. Meanwhile, their current efforts like Helldivers, The Last of Us, their samurai game and their Marvel games, and God of War are, objectively, financially successful.
>>282700554I remember at some point in the 10s Disney XD would regularly advertise their "otaku" corner or whatever. Sure it was just kids shows like yokai watch and pokemon, but that is what your typical mainstream anime fans still limit themselves to watching. So this all checks out.
>>282699995I like the way you think.
>>282699731>KNY will kill anime and we will be set free
>>282700645I suppose I underestimate just how profitable the bloat of the game industry has gotten. It is sad that such a thing has been essentially turned into another Hollywood. Although it makes sense as these things often can push technology forward, demonstrate products for tech companies, and are essentially a culmination of multiple different creative fields. This is why I don't really use the term gamer anymore, it'd be like calling someone a movie fan.
>>282699731Post hand and passport, THREE. INCH. JOSHUA>>282700699Hopefully. Then Jeremy can officially become my black femboyfriend
>>282700399Case in point of an ignorant westerner spouting shit he knows nothing about with confidence.>>282700469For DB no, assuredly not, its broad appeal helps with its production. People in Japan like it which encourages merch, which people from the west happen to also buy, and so forth. Like you mentioned with tie in merch, the west does not contribute nearly as much. >>Cowboy BebopThis is also wrong, because contrary to memes, Bebop was highly successful in Japan. If it was not, there never would have been a movie. No Faye figurines. No SRW appearances. For as much as Bebop is feted, people here barely buy anything of it.
>>282700795Concession accepted
>>282700795>People in Japan like it which encourages merch, which people from the west happen to also buy, and so forthIt's weirder than that, a fair number of that merch is made anticipating a western market. Lots of exclusive figures for big conventions like NYCC and SDCC, Anime Boston, Anime NYC, shit like that. >This is also wrong, because contrary to memes, Bebop was highly successful in Japan.Yeah, I know that, my point is more that the only people buying the 50th rerelease of Cowboy Bebop probably are Americans.
>>282699731Anons don't understand that KnY carries ufotable not the other way around. They've never done a franchise that is even 5% as successful as Chadmetsu>TLDR: ufotable will never let this cash-cow go and QUEERemy will seethe forever. Amen
>>282700548They are. There's many games to this day that release in Japan first. What the other anon is talking about are big, high budget works that do take up a lot more comparatively. Even stuff like Gravity's Rush was a lot more costly than it could've been. When you're throwing that much money around you really need to try to figure out something you can do to make it back besides a singular sale. That's when you start investing in microtransactions, multiplayer, things that can spread word of mouth and justify further announcements which are essentially advertisements. Also not helping this is that a lot of Japanese video games are simply not very good, same as Western ones.
>>282699776wanpiss opened the door to normalfag tourists
>>282700845It's not that weird. As the Japanese buy it that encourages Westerners to buy it as its popularity reaches them. Only after westerners have proven to be consistent customers do they try reaching out to them. It's an example of solid business sense looking to reach to an overseas audience without sacrificing your existing one. You also have to remember there are a lot of Asians living in urban areas and they like anime too. A huge chunk of the "western" audience is an extension of the Asian one.
>>282700748Hol up, niggerell hasn't killed himself yet? That explains all the shitspam I continue to see.
Because social media is cancer, the "doomposting" you see is made by literal retards, ignorant about the hobby and the media as a whole, that includes (You).
>>282700271There is one way Oda can win against Kimetsu but he just wont do it. Its so simple too.
>>282699731never bothered to read this shonenbabby series but since this seems to be ultra popular with normalfags i think i'm gonna have to check it out just for convo in the office and whatnotcan i just watch the movies right away or do i need to read a few chapters first for context?
>>282700204The investors goal is not to make money, it's to "change behaviours"Ffs, it's a decade that we see this behaviour especially in the american entertainment industry and people still think it's a profit thing?
>>282701935>The investors goal is not to make money, it's to "change behaviours"Nah, it's to make money. You can tell because, for example, Kadokawa's mission statement wasn't "To troonify anime and genocide Japan!!" or whatever you retards believe, it was "Make more anime based on profitable titles we own, creating upwards of 50 new TV anime productions annually". They did that because their finalized production pipeline gave them a unique and highly profitable opportunity.
>>282699731I saw the movie last night.The animation made this arc even worse than it aleady was in the manga cuz it just highlights how fucking long the flashbacks are and how desperately you want them to end so you can go back to the pretty colours.
>>282700748Im not that faggot believe it or not.
>>282699731I think it's a sign of the medium losing its unique appeal and originalityMovies have turned into slop after becoming too mainstreamEven Books have turned into slop after becoming too mainstreamIm not saying theres no good movies or books, just like there will still be good animeBut when the major investors are only interested in what appeals to the masses, creators will be less likely to go out and do something unique instead of someting that already proved to be succesful, in hopes of making big moneyJust compare the depth/complexity of something like EVA or Haruhi with Sololeveling
>>282702736Books have been "special girl with special attributes" ever since harry potter started being a thing.
>>282702736>Movies have turned into slop after becoming too mainstream>Even Books have turned into slop after becoming too mainstreamNo, that's just you only going after what's most popular/successful and failing to realize that doesn't align with your interests, retard. What does "books becoming too mainstream" even mean, are you talking about 1880? Books were good before the late 1800s?>Just compare the depth/complexity of something like EVA or Haruhi with SololevelingRealize that when Haruhi released, the most popular works of that year were Code Geass, Zero no Tsukaima, and the reboot of Negima.When Evangelion released, Dragon Ball Z released its 13th film about the same shit it's always about, Gundam Wing franchised Gundam into oblivion, and adjacent to that the artistically minded WMT series was basically on its last legs and would die out soon after.You're just a retard who can only think of what's extremely popular, but have failed to realize that what people talk about decades after the fact are the popular works that had some degree of lasting appeal/impact (and even then, people still talk about shit like Gundam Wing and Geass).
Does streaming matter? BC movie flopped at the box office but it was streamed alot. So, is that an success or not.
>>282702949Streaming largely doesn't matter in regards to major productions, but for anime streaming will be fine.Anime production values tend to be lower than live action by several magnitudes.
>>282699776nobody cares about one piss
>>282703240but its weird, kooky, crazy, whimsy, ugly, and chuuni.Just like me.
>>282701935It's half and half. You can make a lot of money pandering to whales, and as USAID showed there's a lot of whales in government.
>>282700038This man saved humanity by making Mitsuri become a hashira, and everybody hates him for it.
>>282703240Is what i tell myself to escape my gay lonely life
>>282699906They are trying to make live action adaptations and other shit like thatIt kinda works for them but is still inferior>>282699995/thread
>>2826999954TH POST BEST POST./THREAD.
>>282699731Doomposting is always a staple thing on here. Anime died in 2010 and 2000 too, didn't you know that?
>>282702943wow, one hour and no one tried to be an obnoxious idiot in response. kudos!
