The hate against Rudeus seems massively hypocritical.There’s an entire genre of female isekai protagonists grooming multiple male leads from childhood (otome isekai), but Rudeus doing it is somehow bad? But when it’s the other way girls cheer it on and call her a queen who should have a massive harem of guys she groomed from childhood?The hate makes no sense.
>>282722183men badwomen goodnext question
>>282722183>women are hypocriticalShocker, OP. Why care?
>>282722183Bad character
>>282722183>reddit spacingnot even worth reading past the first line/ Rudy is a shit character, that's why people hate him.
It’s kinda a dogshit show so why do you care
>>282722183>The hate against Rudeus seems massively hypocritical.It isn't>There’s an entire genre of female isekai protagonists grooming multiple male leads from childhoodJust as disgusting>The hate makes no senseIt does
>>282722183I just dont understand why you even botherif someone hates MT because Rudeus is a groomer in their eyes, they wouldnt understand the main themes of the story anyways, which is that people can changeWhy would I ever wanna talk to someone like that? It's better they get filtered immediately so I know any exchange with them is meaningless
Those girls weren't pedos trying to rape their niece in their previous life.
>>282722183It's worth pointing out that there's a really obnoxious poster who frequents MT hate threads who also does the same thing on /pol/, you can identify him by>obsessively needing to get the last word in>never giving a single inch over 80+ replies>responding to pictures with "Those doctored / fake images are irrelevant"I've dealt with him numerous times this year over there and you can imagine my laughter when I found him here, in MT threads no less. What we know of him from over there is that he's a communist from Boston. The sheer energy the guy puts into posting is remarkable, but there's definitely something wrong with him. Odds are many of you have seen him in these threads before. If this is him >>282722719 it wouldn't surprise me, kek. We'll have to see how this thread plays out
>>282723252>poopdickschizo.pngYeah, he's probably schizo, but high functioning. I'm just flabbergasted at how anyone has the energy to argue like that guy. We're talking 4+ hours, sometimes over 100 replies just obsessively barking that he's right without ever conceding a single thing. He thought I was "funded by billionaires", so I posted a screenshot of my bank account with $11 in it. Dude called me a liar and said the photo was fake. He did however convince me to watch MT because anything that upsets a guy like that is probably great, and it was. I'm halfway through S2P2 and the slow burn romance where Rudy didn't recognize Sylphy was just tugging at my heart the whole time, and then a wonderful payoff. He's so lucky.
>>282723178yeah, you mean ack (that's what we call him). he has been hounding /a/ for more than 12 years, probably even before that, and is always around in any kind of series thread whenever the series has more than one female character, be it madoka, where he had a 2 yera long autistic ghost-fights on the old desumoe archive for example, lycoris recoile and witch from mercury where using trigger words like majima wife or guel wife makes him frothe and seethe, 100 girlfriend, and probably even more. plus, he likes to do everything that he accuses everybody else apparently doing, like using fake images, repetitive posts, ban-evading, yelling at mods, calling everyboy akemi and so on.
>>282723430You have no idea how fascinating this is for me because in 15+ years of being here, he's the only individual poster I've replied to more than a hundred times. Even though I completely disagree with the guy and find him reprehensible, it's like we're prison pen pals. If you wanna see his posts over there, here's some image hashes to search up on 4plebs, or you could just search "scapegoat". I have a couple more if you're interested but I swear to god it's the same guy. It's got to be.69xwaICn93gOB8attfo8oQsSIKPdIK1KA0QZBLZtxrZg
>>282722183Both fans and haters of MT will never accept the fact that MT is just an overall "above average" story.
>>282723629MT is above average in everything which makes it a solid 9.2/10
>>282722970>ThemesDon't matter if you don't do it right. This anime is just a really clever and well written wish fulfillment fantasy pretending to have something to say. You can point to all the "realistic problems" and such you want, in the end it's just another story by and for lonely losers with an unhealthy view of sexuality and how they should relate to other people.
heh, he's here of course.
>>282723388>I'm halfway through S2P2 and the slow burn romance where Rudy didn't recognize Sylphy was just tugging at my heart the whole time, and then a wonderful payoff.that was just soo ridiculously annoying. I cannot believe he didnt recognise her.
Ninbros?
>>282723629more like the worst parts of it are still above average and the best parts are top tier
>>282722183The hate against rudeus is largely from westoids projecting their own espstein tendencies.That doesn't make MT not shit however.
>>282726497It was, but that frustration is part of why the payoff was so good. We're already aware that Rudeus is a retard, but when Sylphy accepts him, it pays off twice as well as it would had he'd recognized her immediately. I knew I was going to like the series when I saw her with green hair but this sealed the deal. Elf wives for everybody.
>>282726742only by normalfag standards, the final fight before the ending is quite literally just a capeshit EVERYONE IS HERE plot
>>282727977The problem is this convoluted literal telenovela tier plot could have been summed up in about 2 eps tops.
>>282722183>Enter enter>Enter enter>Enter enter
How do we stop evil advent of fake lolis who are hags on the inside?
>>282722183Yeah no one actually cares about the thing itself it’s more about making what someone considers their side win. View everything through this and it’s easier to understand.
>>282728053You can't just cut out a huge chunk of time and maintain the intended narrative flow. What's next? Are you gonna claim that endless 8 would've been fine as a single episode?
>>282728096Dickem down and makem make a genuine loli
>>282722183>See? It's just like all those garbage otome isekai.Not the greatest argument there OP.
>>282722183I've noticed if a show has a male mc or caters to guys there will always be at least one or two unhinged rants about it, fanservice, etcBut otome and princess threads don't get the same scrutiny even though they are just as bad wish fulfillment. I thought it was because those shows aren't as popular enough to get schizos but lurking the threads I'm starting to think the male haters and the otome fans are the same posters.
>>282722183Do you have any actual examples of this or are you just imagining the existence of a genre just so you could dismiss criticism by evoking a vague sense of hypocricy in some vaguely defined group of people?
>>282728053>plot could have been summed up in about 2 eps topsAs an isekai enjoyer who has braved even the poorest adaptations, you might be right, but the detail in the plot combined with the hefty budget is what makes the show. The same story but with a bad studio would have been completely unwatchable, since Kadokawa picked it up, they've got the resources to rescue what would even be a boring story.
>>282728441The latter
>>282728441>Do you have any actual examples of thisExhibit A. This fake loli grooming all those catboys?? Completely scandalous!! How is that allowed?
>>282728053That would make sense if Sylphie and Rudeus were the only characters in S2C1, but S2C1 EP5-12 was 90% introducing the future main plot-important characters(Cliff, Zanoba, Ariel, Luke and Badigadi), and 10% Fitz romance. 38.5% of Season 2 Part 1(EP0-EP4) wasn't even part of the "school arc" and the "ED arc" was all but concluded by EP11, but you ask around and people make it seem as if it was 24 episodes of Limp dick will they wont they typical anime non-sense.
>>282728460>with the hefty budgetthis is just admitting you're the anime equivalent of a graphicsfag and will consoom whatever slop is put in front of you and praise it as the best thing ever as long as the "production values" are good enough
>>282728348Men are truly the most oppressed minority.
>>282728348I attack bad shows when I see enough idiots glazing it to annoy me
>it's another opinion based on the fact that everyone is the same person threadthe simple fact of the matter is that you see yourself in rudeus and now you're upset by people calling rudeus disgusting so you're lashing out by creating strawmen and petulantly diverting attention away from yoursel- i mean from rudeus
>>282729576>glazing itkys
>>282729295so true sis!
>>282729098>38.5% of Season 2 Part 1(EP0-EP4) wasn't even part of the "school arc" and the "ED arc" was all but concluded by EP11, but you ask around and people make it seem as if it was 24 episodes of Limp dick will they wont they typical anime non-sense.that's my biggest complaint about people who try and act like the entire first half of season 2 is about him getting over his ED. It's not even a thing that you know about until the third episode (not counting Episode 0, so realistically fourth), and then after that, it's not the only thing going on. It's far from the only thing happening, and in most episodes Rudeus isn't even thinking about his ED at all, unless something with a girl comes up to remind him about it.
>>282722183You make this thread every day.Nobody cares about your isekaislop
Where can I read Jobless oblige? I finished all of the main series and redundancy, for some reason when I search for Jobless Oblige I see some weird generic AI knight cover on Amazon
>>282728348>But otome and princess threads don't get the same scrutiny even though they are just as bad wish fulfillment.my favorite of these was this one. if this was 100% genderswapped it would've gotten ENDLESS amounts of hate because it's complete wish fulfillment and absolutely nothing else. The main character is literally perfect in every single way and everyone either loves her immediately, or realizes they were wrong and eventually gets a comeuppance.
>>282732070No, it would have been ignored by anyone not watching it like 90% of the isekai every season.
>>282732863bet
>>282732070>The main character is literally perfect in every single way and everyone either loves her immediately, or realizes they were wrong and eventually gets a comeuppance.So a typical FeMC
>>282734095yes, that's what i said
>>282722183>There’s an entire genre of female isekai protagonists grooming multiple male leads from childhood (otome isekai)Oh wow really? We need to have a conversation about this immediately, please name the 20 most shameless and depraved titles in that genre.
>>282734945I'm Too Busy Mastering MagicTearmoon EmpireYarinaoshi Reijou
>>282722183There is literally nothing wrong with grooming dumb teenage girls into loyal, loving wives. If you have the skill to actually succeed in doing it, then you deserve a reward for your hard work.
>>282722719>It isn'tI really really like that image macro where it says that if 1000 year old lolis are little girls than 40 year olds reincarnated into shota bodies are little boys.
>>282722183Why do you care what some woman or guy thinks? Westerners are still stuck in the western mindset and won't truly understand Japanese works that aren't pozzed.Support the author and buy more copies and tell the bitch she's crazy.
>>282722970It's even funnier because the adults in the room thought the relationship was unhealthy and separated them and they didn't meet again until they were grown anyway.
>>282726497I mean he didn't see her since they were kids, she hid half her face, and her hair was a different color.
>>282726497the man last saw her when they were like 7yo, and he went through some shit to say the least. And her hair color was different, her voice was different (in the story), her demeanor was completely different, her origins were unknown, 1/3rd of her face were covered by those shades, and he did notice familiar elements of her but didn't think much of it. He instantly recognized her when he saw her face.
>>282722183It's more about how he gets rewarded for being a worthless piece of shit, and whenever he does anything wrong the universe forgives him.It reads like a self-insert fantasy from a narcissist.
>>282723178>It's actually a /pol/shitposterIs this OP's latest cope now that he was exposed as a discord troon?
>>282736316>It's more about how he gets rewarded for being a worthless piece of shitHe doesn't.>whenever he does anything wrong the universe forgives him.It doesn't.
>>282731983Please tell me ;_;
>>282736494>He doesn't.He does>It doesn'tIt does
>>282736612I disagree, with your wrong opinion.
>>282736623>Your opinion must be wrong because I don't like itTypical behavior of a narcissist like the writer of the story. You can't look at anything objectively, you and the story must be 100% right, and everything else is wrong. There's no middeground, That's the problem with this story and fanbase, they can't look at any part of it negatively, it has to be the greatest story because they say so.
>>282736612how so?
>>282722970>which is that people can changeBut /a/ told me this wasn't a redemption story.
>>282722183>But when it’s the other way girls cheer it on and call her a queen who should have a massive harem of guys she groomed from childhood?MT did the same thing after it got taken ever by korean feminist cultists.
>>282722183>grooming multiple male leads from childhood (otome isekaiNoIn this type of story the feMC looks down on the type of women that seduce men. She proclaims that she will accomplish her goals through righteous means, like her family's influence and money. The male leads see her and think she's interesting because she's not like other women. So when the feMC is in trouble they swoop in and resolve the plot for her. Then the highest status male forcefully has sexual relations with her while she pretends to resist. At no point does the feMC attempt to "groom" her love interests, or if she does it's presented as a joke because later on she's completely at her love interests' mercy. Therefore the feMC is not culpable for any impropriety.
>>282736678>You can't look at anything objectivelyThat's where your wrong, I'm the only one looking objectively here.>you and the story must be 100% right, and everything else is wrongNo, but at this moment I am 100% right and (You) are wrong. :^)>There's no middegroundMost MT haters don't have a ground to stand on period.>That's the problem with this story and fanbaseNo it's the problem with retards that browse reddit, twitter and /a/ 18 hours out of everyday.>it has to be the greatest story because they say so.It has to be the biggest "slop" "wish fulfillment" "pedo" or what ever other buzzword your ilk use in place of actual arguments, because (You) and your fellow xitterniggers don't actually understand the difference between subjective opinions and objective truth, you conflate one with the other and everyone must take the shit that spews out of your mouths or onto your keyboards as the voice of truth and reason.
>>282736678>still wrongdidn't read btw.
>>282736763The irony of saying I'm the one posting buzzword when your entire post is a buzzword salad along with generic "no u" replies. Narcissists can't self reflect, so they'd never be able to understand why nobody likes to be around them. You'll spend your time in these circlejerk threads call anything that rightfully calls out your shitty behavior an outsider because you can't comprehend the fact that your beloved story and author are capable of having flaws.
>>282722183nortubel tier baby
>>282722183Pedo Tensei is for subhuman Pedo faggots. Its fans should be lynched. That's all.
>>282736764You'd have to understand how to read to do that.
>>282736799>obvious bait thread that attracts loser like (You) are "circlejerk threadslol, ok
SHITdeus never recovered from this.
>>282736847They are when they're made by a discord troon that spams them everyday for the sake of good boy points with his cattle.
>>282735681Pretend that's what it is if you want, you're still just engaging in gooner fantasy
>>282722687newfag
>>282722183>There’s an entire genre of female isekai protagonists grooming multiple male leads from childhoodNot trying to troll, but is this even a thing? Female Rudeuses, I mean. That is, cases where the female MC is reborn with an adult brain, pursues male love interests since childhood, and then dates and fucks all of them?
>>282722183All things considered...Rudeus had the best ending of them all.Lived a life with his 3 wives, had kids, family, died watching the beautiful face of his first wife and childhood friend weeping for him, decided to pass quietly instead of falling into the sanity trap that is the pursuit or acquiring immortality somehow, which a lot of characters, including very recently female ones too, receive, which have no fucking clue what they acquired by becoming unable to die.
>>282730111What's the problem?
>>282736897No, MTfags are lying like usual.
>>282736862If you say so.
No one who actually wants to discuss MT makes threads like this.
>>282736937https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/0IxALA1VPCur54LMM26KRA/4 threads with this image alone, and it's the one he uses least often.
Why exactly was the NEET so bad? and what makes Rudeus better?
>>282722183Idk why they hate him that much.90% of main characters in isekai are pretty much manipulative fags with cheat powers and they only do good or neutral things because being bad will not yield them that much results unless they are a very specific type of character. And the majority of the MCs in Isekai can be categorized as mass murderers too.Random motherfuckers are more concerned over the fictional characters grooming instead of being concerned about how the characters in question have a record of indiscrimate killcounts that tend to go into the 5 digits or even above in some cases and they might even get praised for it in and out of universe.
>>282736849The more things change the more they stay the same.
>>282737021>LGBTStopped reading there
>>282737011It's the more the fact that Rudeusfags praise him as being better than other Isekai protags, but he's exactly the same.
>Dude just kill yourself and be reborn as a white manWhy are the Japanese so cucked?
>>282737049>but he's exactly the same.If he was exactly the same he would cause so much vitriol in you fags.
>>282737091You're right, the others don't have a defense force.He does just because his anime is popular and normalfagcore.
>>282737021>Odd NEET stereotypesYeah, unlike MT that portrays NEETs very positively.
>>282737221>MT that portrays NEETs very positively.80% of the rudeus internal monologue is rudeus having normalfag self-hatred over being a neet and not being able to get over it as fast as he wanted to.This increases to nearly 90% once paul effectively suicides by hydra.
>>282737201Ok I'll bite give me some examples of Isekai MC's that are exactly like Rudeus. Post examples.
>>282737250Read my post and the post I responded to carefully.
>>282737271Do you actually consume Isekai? I'd need to know that first, because many people in these threads openly admit they don't and that MT is the only good isekai.
>>282737290Yes, I enjoy isekai kino, as a matter of fact Isekai is 60% of what I consume. Though I will admit that I read more isekai manga and watch more isekai anime than I read Isekai WN/LNs. Hell I even read and watch shit like the Chronicles of Narnia, Zathura, and the original Jumanji at least 3 times a month also Space Jam.
>>282737339>Though I will admit that I read more isekai manga and watch more isekai animenta but let me guess, 95% of it just blends together in your head and you can't name a single example outside the really normalfag shit like overlord and tanyaand the few "tropes" you can get out of your brainrot stew tend to be gook tropes
>>282737363>overlordNever watched overlord, and only watched very little of Tanya. The last ones I've consumed were that gender bender coliseum rape isekai, the hentai isekai where the MC fucks grows and extra cock to DP a goddess, On my 7th Audiobook listen of MT, dungeon breeding isekai, I rewatch Isekai harem labyrinth when even I want to beat my cock, and some more that do in fact blend in my head.
>>282737476>>282737363Now that I listed of some of the things I consume can you stop dodging the challenge of giving examples of Isekai MCs that are "exactly like Rudeus?"
>>282737476>I rewatch Isekai harem labyrinth when even I want to beat my cock,Do you not see the irony in this but still thinking rudeus is unique? Or are you such a failed normalfag that you consider such normalcy to the point you don't even detect it like a fish is never thinking they are inside water all the time?
>>282737570I see you're still dodging the challenge, I accept your concession.
>>282726497>>282727977>>282736005>>282736095The anime doesn't drive this home well, but her shades are enchanted to make her unrecognizable to anyone who looks at her to help drive home the disguise.Even then, the raw fact that an elf his age who can do wordless incantations with a wand that looks just like the one he gave her doesn't tip him off is genuinely retarded. Especially when they met with him thinking she was a boy.
*surpasses kino*https://youtu.be/MMhZNseGtAY
>>282724865>really clever>well writtenFor a special needs middle schooler maybe.
>>282737810>Especially when they met with him thinking she was a boyReminder that she looks so much like a boy that Rudeus unironically thought he was gay because he was attracted to Fitz. He literally had to have her shoved up against his groin while he felt her groin to realise she was female.
>>282738644The story would improve 100% if she was actually a boy and Rudeus just admitted being gay.
>>282722183People have a problem with Rudeus because he was a fat pedo in his previous life. The female characters you invented in your head do not have this problem.
>>282723086Neither is rudy. You surely don't base your entire personality off of a detail that hasnt been canon to the story in 15 years, right?
>>282737271He won't because the usual tactic for these guys is be forever vague with a pretentious word salad so they always have plausible deniability on being retarded
>>282736549Sylphiefag please help
>>282729098this is worth grooming
>>282740960MT is at it's heart a romance, and I would do the same thing in Rudeus' place
This show is such a tourist filter and that's why I like it.
>>282722183S3 when? I’m getting tired of these low tier isekai
>>282722183>there’s an entire genre of female isekai protagonists grooming multiple male leads from childhood (otome isekai), but Rudeus doing it is somehow bad?are those fans with you in the thread right now
>>282737941Stil better than chink animation
>>282740973Romance where the main character marries more than one woman is no romance at all
>>282728053>>282727977>>282726497>Character dies or is lost or is wearing glasses and a mask.
>>282744291Even the church didn't mind polygamy by the nobility as long as you hid it behind the institution of concubineship.
>>282728441HamefuraThough almost every otome slop counts
>>282743176Yes
>>282735533>19 + 19 - 5 = ?????? MY BRAIN IS OVERHEATING PLEASE NASA HELPyeah that's a female author alright
>>282722183only hypocritical when hypocritical some definitely give the criticism to all Tensei series
>>282722183Series went to shit when Roxy became a wife, and Sylphie, the spineless cuckquean, just took it.Even if he wanted to two-time, Sylphie and Eris would have been enough.
Do it for HER.
Reverend Insanity > Mushoku TenseiFang Yuan > Rudeus
>>282723388so worth it in the end
this is now a sylphie appreciation thread btw
>>282749948fuck wrong file
>>282749948Actually this clip goes well to show the double standards of men and women. Compared to someone like Shizuka, Rudeus is perfectly normal and well-adjusted.
>>282748023no one knows about your ching chong chink slop
>>282748023Trvke, pedotensei can't compare to the best chinese light novel
>>282749865is the branch supposed to symbolize something
so where do we go now that /a/ is officially no better than r*ddit?
>>282753274go find a nice christian nationalist message board if you believe that
>>282732070That show was so boring and predictable, what I couldn't predict was it getting a second season.
>>282753730They don't discuss anime any more than reddit does, everything is western politics or moralistic faggotry now
