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How broken will the combined power of these A-ranked squads be?
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I BELIVE IN JACKSON
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>>282731381
>combined power
Too broken. They better have a plan to make sure these squads stay split up. Because their numbers advantage alone is not enough to make up for a concentrated difference in ability like this.
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Thanks for the afterparty thread, I am so fucking happy about this chapter my autism needed more than one thread.
Also, these panels would be fucking cool for a Season 4 intro, just like how the color spreads with Osamu, Yuma, Chika and Jin were used for the S1 intro.
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>>282731461
Imagine Jackson saying "...WE WIN" before getting sniped through a building.
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>>282731381
>T-1 + Jin
How the FUCK do you beat this?
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>>282731977
How did Suwa deal with this?
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>>282731977
A Rank is fucked if she becomes their commander, she's already underestimating Mikumo. Arashiyama is their only hope.
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>>282732228
It probably will be him. He'd have been a solid choice even without the no away mission experience requirement. And with it, he's clearly the best option.
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>>282732183
Two Black Triggers should do the trick.
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>>282732183
>>282732454
>Hyuse and Yuma come with a contrived makeshift Lambiris using Scorpion + Viper
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>>282731977
Needs wire correction!
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>>282732327
Her squad is a higher rank than Arashiyama's, so I can see them using that as an argument for her.
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>>282731977
Someone drew this like 4 years ago lol. It's not THAT prescient, since she's introduced with her arms crossed

https://x.com/tekusyun/status/1346830140597178373
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>>282732973
I love that every character has a dedicated fanartist (or fanartists).
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>>282731381
how exactly does jin's restriction work? if he foresees a teammate about to get sniped in the next two seconds, is he not supposed to like tell the teammate? what if it was an incoming attack a normal person could've noticed if he were looking that way? or what if he just stands in front of the incoming bullet and blocks it with his sword and doesn't mention a thing to anyone, is that allowed?
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>>282731977
Osamu's wives will put her in her place
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>>282731381
Can't wait for next week to see battles
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>>282733223
>Next week
Anon...
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I saw that
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>>282733363
Metaphorically
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>>282731381
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>>282733389
Yeah, it was pointed out to me that there was a swishing sound effect. I blame futaba for misleading me and having me not look at the page closely.
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>>282733393
Sorry, this manga mindbroke me by having a week last 5 years, but I'll always pray for Ashihara.
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>>282733425
>fucking dota but with border agents
Can't wait for Nino rage buyback.
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>>282731977
Made for Osamu BSC (Big Strategy Cucked)
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Any linkers to the previous thread?
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>>282734184
>>282719121
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>>282734184
>>282719121
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>>282734279
>>282734280
Thankee
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>>282733592
>Tachikawa knocks him out
>Makes fun of him afterwards
https://youtu.be/ipsCVhYNwys?t=5
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>>282719686
Oji is right. A ranks are more skilled plus have two trappers (aka the role whose entire purpose is to sit somewhere and defend by placing traps).
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>>282734355
>Cheap mic getting raped by the noises.
Fucking kek.
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How would (you) contribute to this team battle, anon?
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A lot of people are saying Kai dies first, but I don't think he's that retarded
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>>282734687
>t. Kai
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>>282734602
I will drop pods full of white rice onto the battle hunger games style.
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>>282719250
WT is finally embracing its spokon roots
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>>282734758
He will have his shining moment just like Taichi, trust the plan
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>>282731381
considering Jin thinks 1-3 would reasonably beat BTs. They'll be disgusting.
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>>282734687
My reasoning isn't just because he's retarded. Ashihara seems to be giving Ikoma squad more attention, and Kai is the one that's gotten the least. Having him get unceremoniously picked off without contributing anything (again) would be a good way of testing his golden retriever attitude. And it would provide him a justification and opportunity for him to come back after the respawn with something to prove.
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>>282734687
He'll probably get the treatment of Suwa's kid (freckles black hair I forget the name) and look like he's going to do something stupid then not do it to show his growth
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>>282720375
Based.
>picrel with toma shooting kodera
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>>282734687
>>282735106
I need the Kikuchihara teamup.
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>>282735106
Hisato, and yes, I hope they get some development during this fight.
>>282735164
Agreed, they'd have some good synergy
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>>282734687
What other purpose does good bait have?
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>>282735560
>kai and kikuchihara
>good synergy
kiku fucking despises that retarded monkey brat. fucking spaz.
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>>282735586
Kai is NOT a bait or a jobber. Did you guys already forgot that he MURDERED Hyuse during the last rank war match?
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>>282735617
It went well for Katori and Osamu. The last conversation that Kai had with Kikuchihara went well. That is enough of a foundation to build a good attacker duo, because the duo Kitazoe + Tonooka need bodyguards who enable them.
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>>282732879
Arashiyama is #5 for PR reasons, most likely to keep their 5 motif
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On another good news, our autistic spreadsheet manga keeps selling like hotcakes
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>>282735757
It always does.
World Trigger is the OP of SQ, sales gap wise.
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>>282735757
Good. Despite all the hiatuses etc I'm glad there seems to be no threat of axing it. Goes to show how popular it is as well that the magazine can just let Ashihara take as many breaks as needed.
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Some autistic nip already made a grid map, might be good to keep as a reference as we navigate through Phase II.
>Source: xcancel.com/tafugai_genkiwt/status/1973839926430216532#m
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>>282735757
>>282735836

Yawn, still can't beat /ourkween MaoMao's manga AND Tensura. Pathetic, shameful, and embarrassing.
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>>282736063
Well yeah, Slime's board meetings are on another level.
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>>282732228
Did any of the A Ranks review the B Rank Wars aside from the ones who did commentary and the one who watched them live?
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>>282731381
Even with the number disadvantage I don't see how the A-ranks don't just run over people. Hell, am I really to believe Tamakoma-1 with Jin isn't enough to stack bodies alone?
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>>282736233
I remember Katagiri Squad saying they needed to check the logs.
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>>282731381
Do these people ever get horny and have sex
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>>282735956
Where's Tamakoma-1?
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>>282736233
I think the mandatory smurfing imposed on Ninomiya and Kageura squads in the current season has left some of A rank a little too comfortable about ignoring the B rank battles.
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>>282719928
They didn't know Osamu's first name
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>>282736432
Looks like they were labeled A9 for reasons unknown to me.
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>>282733425
>Mizukami + Kuruma
>team homework kiddies and team being hard carried by someone actually competent on your old squad (not including Osano)
yeah they're gonna get slaughtered
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>>282736636
And the nearest enemy squad is Tachikawa's. If it weren't for Ninomiya squad, that whole left flank would be completely free to a combined assault by Tachikawa, Fuyushima, and Kazama squads.
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>>282735617
Which is exactly why they need to work together. They had their moment before going to sleep, it's time to follow up on that and Kikuchihara.
Speaking of which, I'm disappointed we didn't have him shit talk Osamu during his spiel.
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Hear me out, I think B-rankers will lose with a big gap in points, just to show the power difference between A-rank and B-rank agents (regular ones) to stimulate B-rankers to train harder. A few B-rank teams with aces will fight back and will be noticed by HQ and selected for an away mission. Can't see any other result, when some A-ranked teams could easily wipe few B-ranked teams.
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>>282737043
My prediction is
>the B ranks suffer an early trouncing
>manage to rebound and stabilize
>come up with and employ a strategy that could conceivably get them the win
>start closing the points gap
>A ranks successfully stall their progress
>running out of time the B ranks go for one last desperate strategy
>A ranks shut it down and win
That way the B ranks get to show their adaptability and tenacity while the A ranks still get to look eminently more competent and in control all while having it stay at least somewhat competitive to the end.
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>osamu will let katori in on the wire secret
I mean she kinda already figured it out during her match with osamu but I can't wait to see her reaction over losing to such a simple tactic
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>>282731381
One of the dudes in Katagari Rank A squad looks like Kishou Arima from Tokyo Ghoul
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>>282731381
>Jin can't share his precognitions
It's over for Tamakoma-1. Jin's going to spend the entire time rapidly switching from smug laughter to pensive scowling completely derailing Konami's attention away from the battle.
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>>282731381
>Standing on roof
Tachikawa squad is so goofy, I just can't take it serious. The rank 1 has to be bought by yuiga
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>>282731710
Remember they have more trion soldiers and the enemy won't know what's coming at all while A side hass less and they are familiar models.
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Why do you guys underestimate B-rank so much? World Trigger doesn't have brain damaged normal shounen power levels.
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>>282732183
Double senkuu
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>>282734524
Well he (and Ema) are not wrong, but do they really have a choice to not leverage their superior numbers? There's just no conveniently flawless plan. Even with foresight Jin couldn't get through the invasion without offering a sacrifice.
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>>282735757
WT fans are loyal as fuck
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>>282738173
the narrative itself is literally spoonfeeding the idea that B is just not close to any A rank squad. Not just in agent skill difference, but operator skill, battle experience, coordination and even basic loadout optimization (A rankers don't switch loadouts as much, cause they already have a solid gameplan set or are very specialized in a specific loadout).
On paper, no one is even concerned about individual difference in power like in shounen, B rankers on average are just clearly lacking in one area or another aside from the top 2 b rank squads

Tl:dr You can grab any combination of A rank agents, operators and force them to use a certain strategy, and they will still preform at a top level. You cannot do the same with B rankers and that is what the arc is about.
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>>282733425
>Osamu Taichi and Kurauchi
Crazy cheese theories with someone who can actually implement them.
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>>282735757
For some reason I always forget how popular yotsuba is. I always thought of it as kinda niche.
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>>282738336
I'm not sleeping on the A-rank, I know they are crazy strong. I'm just thinking that the B-rank, while there are a lot of shitters, are not THAT bad. The whole point of the Ranked Wars is what you described, and I'm sure there are a couple A-rankers who mix things up a bit with their loadout (unless it is DEFINITIVELY stated somewhere that no one in A-rank ever changes their loadout).

I'm not trying to say
>woah you guys sleeping on B-rank they be capable fr fr
I'm just saying that B-rank has a solid amount of A-level agents, PLUS two whole squads of dudes who used to be A-rank and were only demoted due to things that have NOTHING to do with combat.
I can see Tachikawa doing some crazy shit only to die in a super humiliating way right after. Like getting sniped by Taichi or some shit.
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>>282731977
I think in this phase Kusakabe will get a lot of focus for better or worse. A-rank captains are worth 200 points but most of them are pretty strong so B-rank will need to consider the risk. Meanwhile Kusakabe has little way to defend herself so she's a prime target
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>>282738173
Any team with taichi is a losing one frfr on god no cap my famalam
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>>282732228
Arashiyama won't go on away mission so even if he's fit for the job he'll probably let someone else do it to gain experience
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>>282732228
It's quite likely because ranks 1-3 have away mission experience and she is rank 4. My first guess was also Arashiyama but I forgot she exists.
On the other hand, Osamu isn't a commander, so they aren't exactly pitted against each other. He will probably become a deputy commander or local commander. Not quite sure how it will go, since Suwa is the squad leader, he's probably the one who will become a local commander, unless he will become a deputy commander and delegate SL and local commander duty to Osamu.
So if Osamu becomes a local commander, brat has to be one too. And if he becomes a deputy, then it's fine if brat is in command I guess.
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>>282731381
Isn't Jin alone just a gigantic Mary Sue with vaguely defined powers to have him always come out on top?
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>>282731977
Yomi in a skirt
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>>282732183
Bribe with agesen.

>>282734602
Compete with Urushima for kill stealing.

>>282734687
I don't think Kai will go down first. If I was betting, I'd say Miura (too used to sacrificing himself) or an operator as they're less used to a trion body and probably going to be hunted for the strategic damage.
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>>282731977
Cheese correction imminent.
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>>282738679
>little way
Her 4 boytoys whom she specifically gathered to make up for how shit she was against Kitora
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>>282731381
Who had the best aura farming this chapter? my vote goes to Kako's freiza pose it's so earnestly chunni

2nd place goes to the haughty brat
>>282731977
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>>282735757
>Dragonball Super 37
Man, I hope it comes back someday I need more Broly
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>>282736547
Probably to avoid confusion with temp/testee team 1.
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I'm really surprised we got no further mention of trion soldiers yet.
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>>282739187
Kitora will solo her jobber squad.
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>>282731381
Kunichika looks about ready to decimate all opponents.
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>>282739718
Just a tenth of the opponents?
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>>282738336
Who is that? The jacket makes me think Kunichika but she looks different.
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>>282739799
Genderbent Yuiga.
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>>282739674
They are the secret thing that is going to save the B-ranks. They'll be revealed carefully to keep how a surprise.
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>>282738173
The A-rankers aren't just stronger, but also more experienced. Which I think will be the huge thing that sets them apart.
If this was a normal shounen, then the B-rankers would just train and get strong enough to beat the A-rankers and make them look like retards for being surpassed so quickly.

But that said, I don't think the B-rankers are even being ranked based on winning, but on how close they get.
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>>282731381
Honestly, these 3 teams alone against all the B-rankers would be a tough fight.
Letting Jin participate is deranged, even if he's working with a handicap.
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>>282739310
I'd say Kakizaki squad takes it as a team. Also, Kako's doing Freeza pose wrong, arms to high.
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Mizukami or Mario has higher command stats?
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>>282738336
because there is a big gap between top-tier A-rank teams and B-rank teams. Tachikawa or Tamakoma-1 squads will obliterate most of the B-rank teams solo, not mentioning adding Rindo, Cronin, etc.
Yes, there are former A-rank squads and aces in B-rank teams, but it's simply don't enough to counter it.
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>>282740081
>OURHEROES
... and Zaki
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The custom made trion soldiers are going to tip the scale in favour of the B-rank agents.
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>>282740626
If those can force Tamakoma-1 to use their custom trigger early (leading to Torimaru & Reiji bailing out), maybe
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>>282739310
eat shit and die third worlder
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>>282739310
>people now call that "frieza pose" instead of "come at me bro" pose form dark souls
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>>282740626
Osamu definitely made his trion soldiers into artillery to go along with his plan of overwhelming the A-ranks with group attacks.
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>>282739310
Go back faggot.
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>>282731381
A lot of comedy potential from Jin not being allowed to share his precognitions.
I expect some people (Ikoma, Yuiga, Konami etc.) to dedicate resources to overanalysing Jin's body language, reading into his casual statements and glancing at his facial expressions when they're free to do so.
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>>282738336
What are you talking about? B-rankers have Ninomiy and Azuma, Ninomiya and Kageura squad members are all a-rank fighters reinforcing other squads, a buch of a-level aces who are under command of experienced captains this time (like Ikoma and Katori), a real A-rank commander, an MC acting as deputy commander. Not to mention overall level of middle tobhigh B-rank squads is very high thanks to Nino and Kage smurfing. A-rankers, eslpecially the lower bracket, are in for a rude awakening.
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>>282731381
Dang, Kirie Kanami is only worth 100 points if you manage to vanquish her? But she is a seriously ultra tough target that is more likely to crush whoever tries to hunt her. 100 points for that is no good.
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>>282741042
>Kirie Kanami
Is she Konami's evil twin sister?
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>>282741106
Sorry about that. I was too shocked to think straight when considering Kirie + Jin cutting up their opponents. But maybe Yuma will get an opportunity to have an astounding match.
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>>282733425
Just have Chika nuke the whole battlefield, lmao.
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>>282738218
It's more a matter of how they use their numbers. That and the novelty of their trion soldiers are the only big advantages they have. And both could easily be squandered and, once lost, impossible to recover.
You have all the smart characters nodding along that the B ranks have the advantage. But to whatever extent that is true, it's a much more fragile strength than what the A ranks are working with. If their opening strategy fails, they've likely already lost.
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Who gives a fuck about the rest of the A ranks, no one is beating these 3 alone
Then you have Rindo and Kronin on the A rank side as well
This shit is so one sided
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>>282740745
Frieza pose is something like 20 years senior to Dark Souls.
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>>282741195
There are some bridges.
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What happens when you run on empty? Do you have to sudoku to regain your trion? Do you give points if you do that?
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>>282741268
Fuyushima is going to to hunt high point targets, ultimately contributing nothing to the flow of battle.
Chika and Ninomiya will defeat Izumi. I would say Hyuse will team up with someone to defeat Tachikawa, but I get a feeling that be will be stalling Jin (probably entire Rokuro and Murakami squad).
So Tachikawa will take on the squad that has Ikoma (Oji squad).
Yuma will 1v1 Konami. Kitora will assassinate Torimaru and make Katori angry. Reiji is extremely passive and will yield to owherwhelming numbers, doesn't matter who.
The rest will sweep sissy A rank extras and destroy the terminals. This fight will not be dragged out. Some brave a-rankers are gonna get ambushed by spider gang when they think they could just go and get those B-rank terminals.
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>>282741498
I’ve always wondered if agents will bailout from an empty gas tank since HP and MP come from the same pool. If not then the fact that there’s no rule against mercy killing might become important.
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>>282741268
Reiji will work extra hard this time because he wants to looks good to Yuri
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>>282739310
>>282740081
Yeah, Zaki finally did something cool.
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>>282732183
Chika with double hound > Jin. Sadly this is not the situation.
Jin/Konami/Tachikawa will get the benefits of Fuyushima's teleport traps while Izumi, Reiji & Toma will get to go full attack 24/7 hiding behind the impenetrable wall of teleporting rank 1(x3) attackers. Torimaru might as well reduce himself to dancing in the middle of all that for morale boosts because he sure as shit doesn't need to fight. Worst yet Chika is on the other side of the battlefield, too far away from this rape corner to do anything so she can't reach them with her big booms even if she wanted to (it wouldn't work anyway because between Izumi & Reiji's minigun they have more bullet interception than the rest of the map combined).
Its not fair and its not designed to be fair or beaten. Rip promotional fodder.
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>>282741746
>Yeah, Zaki finally did something cool.
Standing there without saying or doing anything. You are not wrong.
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>>282741837
Don't forget La Creatura is a trapper too so they can extend the coverage.
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Reminder that Chika could flatten the map with Ibis shots no bombs required.
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>>282741883
Chika basically has 1 life/trion pool. There's no respawn for her.
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>>282741837
>Chika is on the other side of the battlefield
Her squad is one of the closer ones. I definitely see Ninomiya squad playing a major part in dealing with the A1-3 murder machine.
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>>282741952
Chika is really playing on permadeath mode
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>>282738173
Because A-ranks have the tools to absolutely fucking body them and B-ranks are not abandoning all terminals to form a death blob which is the only course of action that doesn't end with their assholes gaped and pulled out. They are already raped, its over.
B-rank's SOLE advantage is overwhelming ranged firepower in Chika, Ninomiya, Azuma & Hyuse but by nature of this test they start spread out and most of that firepower is focused in one team. Other teams are fucking helpless to stop the rapists.
In order to help you understand the absolute state of this situation here is an easy to understand example.
Imagine you are Kashio, you are on the contact line, you have a kogetsu, Konami (mobility 10) just dropped in front of you from nowhere. What are you going to do? You have 0.12 seconds before you get decapitated and your reaction speed is 0.17.
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>>282741971
Chika and Nino's squad in general aren't just a "major" part of B-ranks. They are the only real source of firepower and combat advantage, the only b-rank team on the map that matters and the only tool B-ranks have that can and will slow down any A-ranks it faces. What Nino does with his team will decide the outcome of this battle.
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>>282741540
yeah and what if A-ranks got competitive and are 200% serious? with proper command structure and a battle plan? because me thinks this is what is coming
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>>282735956
Oh, they're right. It's a lot easier to see that Kakizaki and Kazama are only 1 square away from the middle bridge. While Saki and Oji are only 1 square away from their own bridges.
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>>282739718
Everyone is taking it seriously, Satori also had that "I'm not joking anymore" face.
>>282739310
Taichi suddenly gained so much aura with just one pose.
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>>282735956
>wakamura gets a million years to figure shit out while he reaches the front
Nice of upper management to throw him a bone.
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>>282738173
Usually only the best of the best are allowed to take this exam but this one is bloated with middle-B ranked agents that put the cohort at a disadvantage in terms of skill. They’re going to have to lean hard into their numbers advantage and trion soldier creation experience if they want to win.
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>>282741177
A lot of people are gonna target Yuma and Hyuse. I think Midorikawa may want a rematch for example, and some A-ranks will want to try their hands at fighting more neighbors.
>>282742036
I feel bad for Teruya and Kashio. It seems broccoli wants to put them in the spotlight and help them become better agents, but suddenly they are facing A-1.
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>>282736808
Why would he shittalk his best friend?
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>>282742259
He's still 16 and likes to tease his buddies, like when he called Utagawa a pussy for being overwhelmed by his SE, or when he joked about Osamu feeling useless after the mall match.
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>>282742183
He'll manage to get hit on the way somehow
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>>282742183
Actually its the opposite, his decision making just started to matter. Reinforcing squads get to make decisions, pick different options and approaches, they need to use their heads to come up with the best route and vector of attack and form a plan that insures they will be of most use/highly effective based on limited intelligence they get during the battle and topography they face, additionally they have to work on the clock as time they take to arrive is crucially important to the holding units. This is one of the reasons why you have experienced troops in reserve while leaving front line to fodder, reinforcing effectively and timely is a fucking art that won so many wars you wouldn't belive it.
Meanwhile front line squads don't have this burden, enemy there -> fight it.
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>>282742259
That's how he shows affection.
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>>282742259
that is how he operates, he cannot not grumble if he is grumbling he cares.
>>282736808
he is banned from command positions so he most likely decided out that giving advice is banned too, Kikuchi was on the away missions
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What's the big strat here ? Kodera is the commander but Mikumo offers to abandon half the map to the enemy right off the bat ? Strength in numbers okay, but don't forget to keep some points, Ossamu !
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>>282742295
he will make a comeback, trust the plan
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Isn't this weak to trion soldiers? Drop 3 marmods by a terminal and it's down in 30 secs to 1 minute.
An A-rank squad that finds the undefended terminals could clean up fast. Drop soldier, run, drop soldier, run.
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>>282742432
>What's the big strat here ?
avoiding evaporating on contact when A-rank's attackers hit the frontline, its the only plan B-ranks can have that doesn't get them exterminated but Osamu is not being severe enough.
Reality of this test is that Terminals do not matter. They are bait. Abandon all terminals, form one army death ball and slowly advance on A-rankers killing everyone with overwhelming firepower easily eliminating terminals by attacking them with 10+ attackers who can then rejoin the deathball once they are done.
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>>282742454
I really want to, the man has been put down so low he might as well become an oil baron. I just don't see how he could do anything right now besides lead his squad and die. I mean he is (one of) the weakest character on this map.
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>>282742495
Even before this new information, I thought taking down terminals would be an efficient use of trion soldiers. Terminals themselves can't move or fight back. So it wouldn't take very expensive trion soldiers to take one out if the defenders were busy dealing with human combatants. And that's even more true now that it's this much of a time commitment to get through one. Would you rather have your Tachikawas and Ikomas spending three minutes wailing on one or a swarm of cheap bugs eating it up in the same time or less?
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>>282742663
>Implying Rokuro didn't modify his trigger set to btfo everything in front of him in glorious full-attack fire
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>>282742663
he actually is not. He is a gunner with decent trion, he is very usefull under the ranged paradigm and he could survive multiple fights.
Koala, Okudera, Miura & Sasamori are the dedicated useless fodder. Kashio, Teruya, Kotaro and Obishima would be in the next tier of usefull fodder as they have a ranged option and thus are much more usefull, Wakamura is somewhere between this tier and mid tier just by nature of having a gun and thus more range.
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>>282742432
I wonder if the anons who ragequit and dropped the manga during those panels ever saw "we win" or returned during these times.
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>>282731381
I'm so happy it finally starts.
The first clash and the first kill will be legendary.
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Why aren't Ninomiya or any of the other B team A-rank agents giving out advice on some of their opponents for those who have never fought them before?
Explaining what a trapper is and how to even fight one might save some lives.
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>>282731381
I still think one of those terminals would have Fujin, if only because there's so many candidates there and it's not a good look to never use it.
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>>282735706
>>>>>>>#5 because of pr
Bro, they were B-ranks before Kitora joined.
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>>282733425
Destroying the bridges is a must, right? There's no reason not to use Chika.
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who's the biggest jobber in World Trigger?
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>>282743058
Fujin.
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>>282743058
Enedora.
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Sniper duel please
Narasaka vs Hanzaki or Touma vs Tonooka or anyone really
boner
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>>282743108
>killed top 3 a-rank teams in a 1 vs 10
>killed Hyrein
>sniped Guacamole plank from the other side of the town
Fujin-chan might be a free use town bicycle but she is no jobber
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>>282742925
I think we are getting some panels before the engagement. We may even circle back to the pre-match moment but with other squads, then they have time to explain or give advice.
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>>282743164
>Narasaka vs Hanzaki
Yes.
>Touma vs Tonooka
Seems a bit one sided. I think Azuma would be more appropriate.
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>>282743164
Hanazaki taking down Toma is more likely than you might think
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>>282742925
Well Ashihara has to explain trappers eventually
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>>282743164
Tonooka vs. Uno sounds cool, they both seem like the silent, stealthy types. Narasaka and Hanzaki would be a great fight, they are both very skilled and proficient.
As for a meme fight, Taichi vs. Toma or Satoken.
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>>282742925
There is a B-rank squad with a trapper, so they should already know
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>>282743343
They would have also all seen it watching ranked wars. And talked to their A rabk friends about it. Except Osamu, of course.
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>>282742989
B-rank might need a bridge to cross in big numbers. Because they're behind on points from the sacrifice terminal strat.
Unless Taichi made a trion submarine.
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>>282742115
They will be met with superior numbers and equally good structure
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Has it ever been disclosed how trion soldiers will be deployed? Are they doing the galopoula thing where they're carrying pokeballs on their person? Or do they come from terminals?
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>>282743164
Taichi will fake a duel with Toma. But it's setup for his stealth trion army to hunt down Fuyushima and Risa.
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Taichi would unironically suggest trion soldier IEDs/suicide drones. Imagine a seemingly weak rad jumps on your back, then the next second you wake up in the lobby kek.
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>>282742115
The structure of the test interestingly enough doesn't encourage it as A-Rank participation has already been decided by Kido's words. B-Rank agents think A-Rank agents will care, but they don't really have much reason to. This could lead to stuff like A-Rankers being ordered to do certain things as a test for B-Rankers rather than play optimally. As otherwise why the deception of A-Rankers having skin in the game when they don't?
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>>282744062
A rank has a high enough concentration of fightfags and trolls that I don't think they need much extrinsic motivation to stomp noobs.
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>>282733425
>we ASSFAGGOTS now
Of all sims
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>>282744062
>A-Rank participation has already been decided by Kido's words.
It has not.
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>>282722182
She's clearly worried because she wants it to be stolen
It's poisoned
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>>282742925
Nino probably doesn't want to give them all the answers given his attitude during the Excel portion. Godzuma probably won't say anything unless asked.
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>>282738173
No, but the power and skill gap is too great. 1v1 almost all B-rank squads would get wrecked in short order by almost all A-rank squads. Too many of the B-rank agents in the test are mid B-rank and would immediately lose to basically any A-rank agent 1v1. Winning isn't impossible, but it's going to require overwhelming them with numbers or otherwise finding a way to defeat them in detail.

Or to put it more simply, while B-rank isn't bad they can't win an even fight against A-rank, even with the scattering of A-rank members on their side. Their only chance is that this hasn't been set up as an even fight, so they still have the potential to win.
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>>282720327
Makes me wonder if the relative variability of the A-rankers is going to put a bit of a hole in Osamu's plan.
He's used to the rank wars where it's mostly fighters in a fairly defined sniper/attacker/shooter meta, having weird shit like trapper and spotter added into the mix might mess things up a bit.
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>>282744593
Well he used to do his homework on his opponents in the Rank Wars, I don't think he'll have a lapse now
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>>282719950
>Yuichi Jin: 100pt
>Takeru Yuiga: 100pt
This amuses me
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>>282744593
Yeah, I think it will. In the matches he's participated in, his own squad have been the only ones with atypical force multipliers. He's arguably less prepared to deal with A rank trickery than the squads that had to face him.
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>>282744664
I'm sure it amuses Tachikawa too. Almost as much as him being worth twice as many points as Jin.
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>>282744700
Now I want to hear their side of the conversations. It's probably just agents shittalking each other and Miwa seething over having Rindo in his team.
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>>282744593
They can specialize trion soldiers to fit their usual style too. Imagine if the spotter has 10 sniper soldiers all synced to hit dodgers or crack shields.
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>>282744664
>Takeru Yuiga: 100pt
>Takumi Rindo: 100pt
Is even funnier
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>>282740933
You're missing his point.What you're talking about is single agent performance which is less relevant than overall squad mission readiness. You mention azuma but his squad canonically holds him back, he's more interested in making them A rank than he is winning rank battles and getting promotion. Nino squad was already an rank squad and is part of the top 2 exceptions anon mentioned. Aces don't win matches, synergies do. This arc already highlighted people like Ema and Katori have teenager like rebellious phases and others like Jackson have issues with controlling and dealing with pressure and commanding.
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>>282744763
A ranks don't get custom trion soldiers. They can only use neighbor designs. I'd argue it's their biggest handicap.
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>>282731381
STEP ON ME, MAKI!
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>>282744551
>>282745003
Speaking of A vs B comparison, how do B rank operators stack vs A rank operators? All I know is that Kunichika's top tier
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>>282745099
Still I think they can get something like two Rabbits and one extra Marmod per squad which is insane. But yes, with a lot of creativity I think the B-ranks can cause a lot of damage with their custom soldiers.
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>>282745099
Oh you're right. And we've never seen a mean sniper bot.
I'd try flying bots then. Bait out shots that show where the B-rankers are.
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>>282745426
not looking great for our heroes desu
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>>282745430
>2948
That's an Ilgar isn't it? Every team can get 4 Ilgars?
New strat. Give Toma 4 Ilgars with a teleport trap on each.
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dropped this manga awhile back, is it almost done yet? I left it after feeling that the manga lacking any sort of substantial stake.
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>>282745430
Those spawner rads ended up being a huge pain in the ass in the first few volumes so I hope both sides cook up some fun strats with them.
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>>282745612
Well I don't think you'll suddenly like it now. And it's far from done.
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>>282745541
I thought Osano was up there? Yeah it's looking pretty grim B rank bros...
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>>282745550
This nigga capitains.
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>>282746043
she is, her total is low but only two other operators have multitask at 9 and they are top 3 and her overall spread is good enough with no real dump stats.
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I still feel like Osamu is going to use the fact they didn't collect the other exam triggers to somehow game the system. It's probably in that little tote bag (along with their food/personal items) they conspicuously all carry around, even though the story could just as easily found a way to deal with a minor hassle off-screen.
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>282745612
>spoonfeed me despite the fact i don't give a shit about the manga
No (you)s for this faggot.
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>>282742825
Ranged attackers are at a disadvantage in such a prolonged situation, they expend trion faster and you can only recover trion by being killed, that is, by giving the enemy points.
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>>282742925
To be honest I would have expected at least the top level squads' captains/operators to make a habit of looking at A rankers' match recordings to improve their tactics.
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>>282747112
Watching logs isn't the same as real experience anyway.
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>>282747055
there is no prolonged situation, there is no attrition its all a distraction and a lie, once a-ranks get close they die. odds of any B-rank on the map running out of trion before they die are slim to none the only thing that matters is damage potential
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Can Jin even consciously NOT use his future sight?
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When was the last time the manga said "Trigger On"? Chapter fucking 1? The first seasons said it all the time (haven't watched seasons 2, though I know it's a better adaptation)
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>>282747325
They probably allow it because it's impossible for him to stop using it.
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>>282747325
Q. How does Jin's Side Effect work? Can he turn it ON or OFF?
A: It's like having a new window open up in your vision (mind), you can't turn it off, but you can consciously choose to ignore it. The person you saw once gets registered in the brain channel for a while and seems to allow tracking future branching events during it
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>>282747325
Just put a germanium ring on
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>>282747325
He can make a conscious choice to ignore it but its not going to help anyone in this scenario, when Jin puts his tinted glasses on the visions of future and reality get separated by different color gradients so he can focus on reality completely. The issue here is that this is his all out combat mode primarily used for soloing Tachikawa or /0 trion soldier armies in single combat.
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>>282747369
>Old Toei would have wasted five minutes (one per agent) just to show this page.
Wonder how their transformation will look with the current Toei style.
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>>282738909
Even with future sight powers, Jin had to invent an entirely new sword Trigger just to keep on Tachikawa's level
If anything, Tachikawa is the sue for being just that strong
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>>282731461
>2023
Time sure flies
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>>282739187
>seethed so hard she retreated to an armchair position and got 4 boys to do the fighting for her
Kusakabe's poses match how much of a bitch she is.
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I can't wait to see the White Devil start killing people again. I also want to see what trion soldier(s) he's come up with. We all want to know what Taichi has cooked up, but neighbors should have an interesting perspective too.
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I love how little value there is in killing Katori
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>>282747456
The best they can do is use whatever anti-trion material went into Hyrein's Black Trigger.
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NOOOO I NEED MORE
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>>282747631
being a womanlet cursed her into a life full of seethe and rage. Suwa and Kitora just drove her past the limit.
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>>282734687
How can a lot of people be saying it first when I was the actual one who said it first?
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>>282747823
See you next year
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>>282735956
Need guided Arrow IV strikes on grid square K5
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>>282731977
Smol.
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>>282747823
remember your prayers anon, we might get a Season 1 remake or Season 4 announcement on December.
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>>282747823
this arc is gonna be hell for the background art assistant
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>>282747521
>primarily used for soloing Tachikawa or /0 trion soldier armies in single combat.
Says who, don't forget he is one of the main force in a lot of the expeditions, which means pure chaos battle field.
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Kitazoe looks like fucking Chris Redfield or some random Navy SEAL lmao, I guess Ashihara finally decided to make him a gorilla instead of a fatass.
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>>282748212
He was locked up for a week with Kai and Kikuchihara. That changes a man.
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>>282731977
Remind me what Suwa has to do with her?
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>>282739799
Miwa squad operator tsukimi ren. Shes been friends with tachikawa since like kindegarden so nippon land ships it, go figure.
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>>282748212
Kitazoe was always described by Ashihara as a strong-fat with high muscle mass, basically the strong man archetype, with a height of 189 (a dingle more than 6'2) he is one huge motherfucker by nip standards. this was chapter 115 so it was like 10 years ago and even then the big chungus was compared to fucking Reiji of all people
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>>282748973
That would explain why around the time S2 was airing I'd see the elevens refer to burgers as "Kitazoes"
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>>282740777
It would be funny if they set up a constant barrage of low-Trion attacks that go on through the night just to prevent the A-ranks from having a good sleep. Might help balance the scales a bit
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>>282749183
trion bodies don't sleep or get sleep related issues, they can work until they run out of trion with no consequences and once they do they get transported back to the real world to relax in their pods
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>>282748748
Suwa was her mentor. I was gonna say she was on his squad, but I’m not sure that was ever confirmed.
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>>282749385
Suwa was her mentor when she was a gunner and later Osano was the one who taught her how to be an operator, its a safe assumption that Saki was on Suwa's squad and left it because she didn't like Suwa's relaxed approach to results with 3 trion Kitora pooping on her head in a gunner vs gunner matchup being the final blow.
As a reminder Suwa doesn't care much about getting to the top tier or A-rank but its clear that Saki's personality all but demands it.
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>>282748846
>friends with tachikawa since like kindegarden
She must have the patience of a saint
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>>282748973
We got Dumb Lion and Fat Lion. How many other lions does Border have?
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>>282749651
if I remember correctly then rather than a saint she is an iron woman whipping Tachikawa into shape.
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>>282747823
>Ui, pay close attention to how Katori moves
>she is your example for operating a trion body
>got it
omega kek
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>>282750122
She seems gentle though, when Jin asked for her help she was happy to oblige, I guess she behaves differently to Tachikawa.
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>>282750436
we have two notes on her thanks to promotional captain notes, Ninomiya loves her and Mizukami is afraid of her, knowing Nino/Tachikawa relationship its safe to assume that Ren spanks Tachikawa around
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>>282750122
>gigaretard winning at life
It's just not fair
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>>282750567
>nasty personality
>kazama
Kazama's great!!
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>>282750567
>Saki Kusakabe
>saucy, nasty personality
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>>282750628
you haven't seen him drunk and Suwa did, multiple times in fact since they are drinking buddies.
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>>282750567
Huh, that indeed seems to be some bad blood between Suwa and Saki, the divorce must have been traumatic.
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>>282750821
when given a choice between watching Wakamura & Suwa's teams Saki chose Suwa.
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>>282750929
Well Kazama also had some good things to say about Suwa so this might be entirely one-sided
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>>282750567
I forgot Oji was a Kakofag. Too bad he's too old and male for her.
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>>282750929
Maybe she just didn't want to see Jackson that much
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>>282750929
Huh, maybe it's just him being salty his apprentice dumped him. So far he's been harsh at times but reasonable, would be interesting for him to be petty.
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>>282751005
Neither age nor gender matter to her, his problem is that his last name doesn't begin with "K" (Although his first name does lol)
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>>282744664
>average Fuyushima member 140 points
>average Kusakabe member 120 points
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>>282750436
teaching a retard like tachikawa strategy probably induces a shift in personality in the average person. Also it seems that it's mutual beneficial kek , Ren teaches him strategy and he teaches miwa kogetsu autsim.
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>>282745430
what is the 728 model?
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>>282750567
>Kodera wanted Usami and Somei
He has a fetish for women with glasses, just like me.
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>>282750821
Nah, Suwa seems like he's much more willing to talk shit on the people he's close with. Like how he goes drinking with Raizo and Kazama, but he also called Kazama "depressing, nasty personality" while also knowing Raizo will shit talk him if they lose the away test battle.
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>>282731381
I want Konami to sit on my face
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>>282751327
>Special tactics 2
Tachikawa is the quintessential unga bunga character. No wonder Jin loves to play cards with him and Konami.
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>>282751431
not just Raizo, Suwa's immediate concern was that Kazama & Raizo would tag team and annoy him afterwards. With this in mind he might actually like Saki
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>>282750663
That mailbox deserved it.
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post world cleavages
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>>282751729
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>>282751729
Not cleavage, however
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>>282751781
Nono's no-nos...
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>>282741952
Remind me, what affects respawn time?
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>>282751833
Trion.
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>>282751680
>t.Kazama
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>>282751815
it must be a massive chore to carry those things around yet no one volunteers to help her, border is full of faggots
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>>282752136
Taichi did twice with his back and it changed him.
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>>282752214
only by accident so he doesn't get credit for that.
>and it changed him
no shit, touching those even through the hat is a religious experience
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>>282734355
kek I thought his mom was about to sit down and play in his place for a moment there
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Oji's pose may not be a meme, he would actually be more useful as a shooter with this squad. Iko and Tsuji got the squad covered as attackers, and Obishima uses Kogetsu mainly.
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>>282734687
He is that retarded, but he won't die first simply because he can piss of Kikuchihara more by surviving.
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>>282753370
He better not. I want to see more Kogetsu + Scorpion.
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>>282753985
In that case they need to pair up with a squad that favors medium and long ranges.
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>>282753370
So he's copying Kako's dual hounds?
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>>282751357
That's a bamster, a capture type with some similarities to a bander (model 1130). Bamsters are heavily armored and tougher than the higher cost bander, but they don't have any ranged attacks like the bander's artillery.
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>>282754214
I'm not sure but he does that "playing piano" pose that Izumi also does when summoning bullets on both hands.
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>>282752136
they're trion no nos
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>>282752136
Do trion boobs even weight?
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>>282754844
Not likely, in a trion body you can jump a lot, falls don't harm you, and so on.
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>>282731381
B rank heavy hitters: Nino, Azuma, Chika, Hyuse, Yuuma, Kitora, Ikoma, Kikuchi, Kage, Yuba, Katori, Urushima (maybe), Ko.

A rank heavy hitters: Konami, Reiji, Karasuma, Jin, Tachikawa, Izumi, Touma, Kazama, Raizo, Kronin, Rindo, Yukimaru, Miwa, Yoneya, Kako, Kazuma,
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>>282749230
Oh yeah, Kuga never sleeps does he? I forgot.
That somehow makes this phase feel even more extreme.
"Stay battle-ready for 48 hours. No sleep."
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>>282751393
I don't know if he specifically has a thing for glasses, but he does have an outright crush on Usami. Been a while since we've seen it in action though.
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>>282756011
Been a while since we've seen Usami at all
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>>282756113
I was hoping she'd be T-1's operator and we'd get to see Yuma or Hyuse kill her.
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>>282756182
Well she has to go with T-2 on the mission so her having to work against her squadmates would be strange
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>>282755683
>had to pretend to sleep all week
>didn't even pull any excuses to claim the pod like Hyuse
That must have been miserable.
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>>282756689
Why did Hyuse even come up with that Canadian bullshit when he could just have said "I snore real bad" or something
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>>282756711
He needs to keep his leaf disguise up at all costs.
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>>282756711
Hyuse was trained in many things, but infiltrating foreign lands and blending in with the locals was not one of them.
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>>282756689
I think one of the most unbelievable things about WT is that Kuga hasn't gone completely insane after what, three YEARS of being constantly awake. Maybe he has a workaround that we haven't seen but either way it just sounds like hell.
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>>282757228
Especially after he lost Replica. That really should have affected him more.
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People have been assuming Jin telling others about his future sight is so A class doesn't stomp / it isn't completely unfair. But honestly, it also means he can't just completely influence the results himself, just in case he was inclined to do so. For instance, if he's on the other side of the map from where Osamu is, his ability to nudge things in his favor is very minimized.
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>>282757228
>>282757485
If I were him I'd explore the city at night. Idk how glowie Border is, but if nobody's tracking him, he could just take walks around Mikado city.
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>>282757608
We know before he moved in at Tamakoma he was leaving every night to go somewhere. I'm guessing he was just wandering around the city.
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>>282757543
*been assuming the ban on Jin telling others about his future sight
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>>282757739
Why was it so important to him to leave Tamakoma when he was he was being targeted
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>>282743164
I don't think it'd be much of a duel but I can see Tono getting Touma. Touma isn't going to get caught by just anyone but Tono is a sneaky fucker so could get it done.
>>282747325
Still don't really get how this works.
>team going into a trap
>jin: uh yeah I'm just gonna hang back a bit guys.... don't worry about me..... go ahead....
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>>282751814
I love this bear
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>>282757834
>Still don't really get how this works.
I don't know either honestly. But I'm thinking he'll just be listening to Reiji the entire time.
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>>282757834
I guess Jin would just have to go alone to prevent stuff like that and it will be his undoing
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>>282757797
I don't think he knew until it was over. He probably knew he was being monitored. But the decision to attack him and take his black trigger happened and was carried out in one day. And it didn't seem like he was aware while it was going on.
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>>282756689
>>282757228
That is pretty fucked, yeah.
>>282757485
He knows replica is still alive due to the baby one still existing so he's probably just more determined to get him back rather than being depressed. He doesn't seem the type to mope.
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>>282757929
He already had been attacked by Miwa Squad and Jin explained Border politics to him after that so he should've understood they wouldn't just leave him alone, especially as someone who had seen some shit
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>>282757893
Solo Jin is still Jin. Unlike Tachikawa Jin is unsnipable and unambushable, out of all attackers in b-rank only Yuma, Kage & Ko won't instantly die on contact with him and even they won't last long. If Jin is willing to pick his fights he can end this exercise by his lonesome.
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>>282757834
Replace seven years with 36 hours instead.
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>>282758018
He isn't using his BT. If Azuma could fall in the Rank Wars so can Jin
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>>282758018
Ninomiya stands a chance. Like that guy said years ago, even knowing what Ninomiya is going to do doesn't help you.

Same with Chika. Knowing she's firing a thousand bullets at you doesn't help you survive them.
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>>282758168
>that guy
You mean Satomi, the #1 gunner. Who we're also seeing in action for the first time which should be interesting.
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Nasu my beloved
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>>282758027
you got it boss
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>>282758278
heh
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>>282758076
Do not compare anyone to Jin, as weapons Jin with border triggers > Jin with Fujin. Double scorpion has better potential and doesn't have recharge window, the loss of super long range is painful considering the map but its negligible. As a solo unit Jin is S rank even with border triggers, doubly so against people he has already seen. He cannot be ambushed or sniped, he knows where his targets are and what they will do. If he is in the mood to equip bagworm he becomes SS+ because then nothing is stopping him from just walking up to any target on the map and stabbing it in the ass without being seen once.
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>>282757228
Would it be that bad if he doesn't feel sleepy or tired in his trion body?
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>>282758168
Jin has proper unbalanced broken shit foresight, not only can he see the next move he also knows what his targets will do days ahead of schedule. Knowing where Chika will be makes it so he knows where she won't be and so he can loop around. Same with Nino. Jin prevents anyone he is aware of from ever playing their cards and winning hands by playing chess instead.
Having a plan, overwhelming fighting power or reliable allies won't save you or them from Jin.
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>>282758278
Kek, good job anon
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>>282758278
Perfect
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>>282746043
Is mahjong the sauna politics of Border field agents?
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>>282746043
>the relationship where they can say what they think without holding back
>they would watch movies and so on together too
so Suwa IS shagging Osano the former young model. No wonder Saki ran away crying.
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>>282758677
Yes, Suwa's nice list had all the people who play mahjong with him >>282750567. I bet he wants to teach Osamu how to play.
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>>282758700
That'd be funny considering Osano helped train her for the operator role.
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My Operator

https://x.com/mumumu12412/status/1974120242621370723
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>>282758309
>as weapons Jin with border triggers > Jin with Fujin.
Jin with scorpion has a losing record to tachikawa and was never part of top 1 A rank squad. Jin with Fujin completely obliterates a squad made of elite tachikawa squad and kazama squad members while holding back just to demonstrate fujins power
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>>282757485
He grew up in literal war zones though, it hurts but he's probably learned to deaden his emotions to that kind of thing.
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>>282758367
y i don't get it either, his trion body doesn't function like a biological one, there's no reason to think he needs the rest to stay sane or anything else normal people need.
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>>282758947
>and was never part of top 1 A rank squad
because Jin was a part of A-rank Rank 0 squad. Before he claimed Fujin and became S rank he was a part of Tamakoma 1 as a regular combatant, T1 is border's strongest team not Tachikawa squad. Also having a 45-50% winrate against Tachikawa in a cage fight just goes to show how absurd Jin is even when his foresight is unreliable.
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>>282747325
Don't think about it too hard. Pretty sure they brought it up because it was a "oh shit we forgot jin has that. we need to take it out of the plot." move
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>>282731710
Constant Chikartillery bombardment, she can shoot people now
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>>282758940
Would be funny if Suwa or Kitora take her down.
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Predictions on first KOs?

I’m thinking Chika will be taken out early. Also, Konami will take out a terminal in like 3 hits and everyone will be like “oh shit”
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>>282759297
Actually it would be interesting if Nino is taken out early, though. See if Enma and Chika can cover for his competence with their combination experience + firepower, put Neo-Chika through the gauntlet a bit.
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>>282759297
Yukimaru and Kai (who is a less skilled, blonde Yukimaru) die by being retarded fightfags.
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>>282759297
Someone from Kitazoe or Kuruma squads. They're right across the river from Tachikawa, who I expect will want to go and see how many heads he can take before everyone gets a chance to group up. He seems pragmatic enough to go straight for operators, so I'm betting Hana.
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>>282759297
Tachikawa or Toma gets Azuma'd. A-ranks need a grim reminder of their place in his world
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>>282742036
>to form a death blob which is the only course of action
this works in an RTS where you don't really have to worry about how actual individual units get along, but in a situation where every unit is its own self determining individual it's not that simple

There's a reason nowadays that militaries are broken down into fairly small squads even if they're working in concert with a large amount of forces on a large battle field. There's only so much you can increase your effectiveness by piling on soldiers in one small place when fighting similarly equipped and trained foes.
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There was some anon in the wakamura schooling chapter threads that said something similar to hyuse during his job interview and impressed one of the employers, does anyone remember which thread was?
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>>282759091
>Jin was a part of A-rank Rank 0 squad.
Tamakoma 1 is the strongest with meme triggers, under standardized equipment they had every opportunity to claim the number 1 squad and they never did. Even Azuma's old squad was the first ranked at someone point when it was him, nino, kako and miwa. T1 hype is all gear locked, dont buy the Koolaid anon
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>>282759297
Might be funny if one of the less competent A-rank squads gets beaten by a surprise zerg rush, causing the B-ranks to get uppity only for T-1 to smush like 3 squads at once
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>>282759297
Tachikawa just to create hype. Also on paper he's one of the least versatile A rankers, he's prone to too much zoning without Izumi
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>>282741268
Yeah, Kronin is a veteran from whatever apocalyptic war destroyed an entire Neighbor world. I bet he’s like the Lancelot of that world, too—some legendary Paladin of Justice, Captain of thr Royal Guard, having saved what remains of the Royal Family. There’s no way he’s not OP as fuck.
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Which is bigger crack ship; Mira x Osamu or Konami x Hyuse?
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>>282759495
He uses grasshopper and is one of the best senku users. He would be less vulnerable to zoning than most other attackers.
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Please don't make Yuba job again
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>>282759616
Don't worry, in WT characters only job temporarily, Yuba might actually score an important kill against a random attacker. Also, Katagiri squad has the biggest jobber flags right now.
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>>282759616
He's going to beat Tachikawa.
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>>282741614
Snipe Yuri right off the bat to make him spill his spaghetti.
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>>282759430
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/270633264/#270635689

First thread for 245
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>>282759297
Chika getting taken down early feels like it'd work out in a lot of ways, because it gives an opportunity to explain the whole "more trion = longer respawn" that has only been mentioned in Q&A, as well as giving her enough time to revive and make a comeback, which wouldn't be possible if she was taken out mid- or late-.
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>>282759446
>under standardized equipment they had every opportunity to claim the number 1 squad and they never did.
We don't know this. We have no timeline that indicates the introduction of the Rank Wars system nor the adoption of experiment trigger by T-1. There's no timeline for the rankings either. For all we know, T-1 might have been unfit for competition since the inception of the Rank Wars. Maybe they did participate and were #1 for a while. Or maybe they were #8. We simply don't have any information on it.
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>>282759780
That'd make him go apeshit anon, never piss off a gorilla...
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>>282759593
grasshoper wont save you from premeditated chika nuke, wires, escudo spam or nino rainshowers. All of these change the environment too much for 1v1 to occur. That being said, Tachikawas commanding is no joke, he led the plan against the aftokrator triggers so maybe he would understand that no one will want to engage him up close, sorta like Yuba
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>>282760102
kimetsu, ?, aterlier and the yakuza cooking thing?
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>>282759957
It's based on the fact that each member of T1 is considered equal to 1 squad except for Torimaru who joined after. Now keeping in mind that Jin is included in this, the only way he would be equivalent to 1 sqaud is if he had fujin, cause otherwise tachikawa would also count as 1 squad.

So what we know is
>Jin is considered to be a squad all by himself
>Scorpion Jin is about even if not slightly below Tachikawa as an attacker
>Tachikawa is not considered solo squad material but shinoada, reiji, and Konami are
This wouldn't make sense if custom triggers aren't taken into account.
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>>282759616
Reminder that his squad is severely nerfed currently. He's not different than Azuma.
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>>282760102
>premeditated chika nuke
No one has an answer for this. But at least Tachikawa would have a chance of escaping. That's more than you can say about a lot of people.
>wires
Senku from a skilled user is arguably the best wire clearing option since it can be less destructive to cover than meteor or clear an even bigger area by adjusting the activation time. And Tachikawa might even be able to use them to his advantage somewhat. He wouldn't be doing Yuma or K*tor* things, but he's still a pretty agile guy.
>escudo spam
Senku is the only thing we've seen that does well against escudo. And there is literally one person who both uses escudo and has enough trion to spam it. But he probably isn't going to in a test where they need to stretch their trion.
>nino rainshowers
Given their solo rankings and how much Nino seethes about him, it seems like Tachikawa has some way of dealing with this. But even if he can't, no one else can either. One of the most mobile attackers in Border can't reach a full attacking Nino. And the other monster shooter has a losing record against him in 1v1s.
Tachikawa is pretty well rounded for not being an actual all rounder. Anything that would work against him will work even better against most other people. He's number 1 for a reason.
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>>282760235
>cause otherwise tachikawa would also count as 1 squad
He does. If not officially, then at least in practice. During the Aftokrator invasion they used him like a one man squad.
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>>282759297
>Konami will take out a terminal in like 3 hits

I don't think her Axe is that strong given it takes 8 Chika Ibis shots to destroy one and that is environment changing power. If Hyuse does 3 damage to it, then she'd probably do like 15 or 20 realistically.
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>>282755591
Satomi the number 1 gunner and Katagiri the number 3 gunner are apparently not good enough to be heavy hitters
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>>282760492
Meteor is environment changing but it has less penetrative power than asteroid. Chika's cannon doesn't disperse its energy quite that much, but one big gimlet bullet from her would do better at this particular task.
Konami's axe is likewise highly optimized for punching through stuff. It's more powerful than Tachikawa's senkus that can effortlessly slice through a self destructing ilgar. And Hyuse was only swinging at the terminal with a normal kogetsu slash.
I personally doubt the axe is more powerful than Chika's cannon. But I could definitely see it being in the same ballpark.
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>>282722470
Jackson is literally me
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>>282760638
Since they said it's 8 chika ibis shots does it approximate to 125 terminal hp and a smack with a kogetsu is 3?
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>>282758278
My elite agent...
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>>282734524

Osamu hasn't revealed his reasoning here, and I suppose it might not be the same as mine, but this might be fine. Considering that the A-ranks have pretty high point value, them bunkering down could backfire simply because it makes them liable to get picked off.

Furthermore, I'd argue that the A-rankers biggest strenght is speed. They make faster decisions than the B-rankers and then they move fast and they strike with strenght. Turtling doesn't synergize with this and would actually create a greater parity between the forces.
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The cumulative strength of A-rank teams is so much higher than B-rank teams; the only way to cut the gap between them will be an additional rule for A-rank teams to not communicate/cooperate with each other. And it kinda makes sense - B-rank teams learning cooperation while A-rank teams simulate an Away mission in terms of 1 team vs a bunch of cooperating neighbors.
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>>282759091
>Also having a 45-50% winrate against Tachikawa in a cage fight just goes to show how absurd Jin is even when his foresight is unreliable.
Yeah, now that you mention it, we probably should be thinking in terms of "Jin and Konami are roughly on a par with Tachikawa". As well as remember that Yuma struggles to win 3 out of 10 rounds vs Konami, Hyuse with his horn trigger couldn't beat Jin with his normal trigger, and Hyuse was shocked at how good Tachikawa was.
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>>282760830
With a map this large relative to the size of the forces involved and with its mix of cityscape and forested mountains, bunkering down isn't going to look like what I think most people are assuming it will. More Raqqa and less Verdun. In that sort of fighting, the A ranks should be able to pull off a pretty brutal and effective defense if they so choose.
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>>282760317
>No one has an answer for this.
All the squads with snipers or shooters make this harder since chika has to contest their field of vision before revealing herself. Also bagworm, chamelon, and teleport are better vs nukes compared to grasshopper. Izumi fills the criteria but he needs to cover for tachikawa in multi agent skirmishes(every fight eventually enters this phase otherwise you end up with hyuse type of situation)
>senku the wire
ikoma's senku, maybe since it has retarded range, but tachi's senku won't cover a wide area as well as meteor which is the main counter. Pllus it's bound to miss a couple due to the shape of the cut and the wires being on different levels and covering entire city blocks

I don't think tachikawa can adjust the timing to match ikomaa senku size, it's stated to be something only ikoma has done. Their senku focus on different things.
>that does well against escudo
true, I forgot he can do multiple senkus
> it seems like Tachikawa has some way of dealing with this.
he probably does, but the reason I singled him out is cause nino is explicitly stated to be a bad match-up against anyone who is close range focused. He may have answer, but just going off the match up, he fares worse than any other a ranker with medium to long range options

Also what does the average gameplan for tachikawa squad even involve? Gunner+attacker+shooter trio is probably the single weirdest combo in A rank. It made more sense with torimaru as an all rounder.
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>>282760492
Well that’s why it would be an “oh shit” moment! It would be a big “oh boy maybe Mikumo is a jobber after all” moment, force a confrontation with T1 to slow them down/stop them from making a beeline to their rear and all their terminals.
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>>282760861
No cooperation would be insane, especially with fuyushima squad. Though I guess it could work cause their operator can send A rank operators real time location of traps and teleport opportunity. But it would be very realistic to an actual mission where communication may be limited
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why allowed Jin to participate? they can just have him sit this one out and not worry about him abusing his side-effect
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>>282761254
Tachikawa's game plan is probably just unga bunga double Senkuu Kogetsu, while Izumi backs him up. Nothing special, just Tachikawa being better and able to beat anyone in close range.
Also, maybe Yuiga as bait or something.
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>>282761509
Because neighbors are also unfair, they'll have black triggers and side effects.
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>>282760235
Jin was used to defend an entire section of the city by himself during the Aftokrator invasion so he's worth multiple squads even with normal triggers. He was also capable of stalling Hyuse with just a scorpion and escudo despite having less trio and no ranged weapons.

Tachikawa doesn't officially count as a one-man squad but he is almost always deployed as one man and attached to other units, as does Izumi. He was tasked with taking down high-priority targets such as Ilgars and Rabbits during the Aftokrator invasion. He's only ever seen in company of other agents when he's assigned a special task (taking down a BT with a broke side effect and protecting the ship against T-1 tier experimental triggers). Izumi usually runs off and works as mobile artillery for squads lacking proper fire support, such as the Miwa/Yoneya duo against Arashiyama or when he helped take down Hyrein. The only thing Tachikawa lacks is Jon's foresight which makes him impossible to ambush or snipe.

And still, that doesn't prove T-1 with normal triggers is or isn't#1 material.
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>>282751781
I'm admittedly not a lawyer, but there's no way this rack doesn't violate some international conventions.
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>>282761254
If we're talking squads then Izumi is about as good an anti-Chika defense as you could hope for. Based on his performance against Hyrein he's probably the single best agent at shooting stuff out of the air, even more so than Azuma. And I personally think salamanders and tomahawks are better anti-sniper tools than another sniper since they can be fired from behind cover. The odds of actually hitting are worse, but they're still forced to move and at no risk to the shooter.
>Also bagworm, chamelon, and teleport are better vs nukes compared to grasshopper.
I vehemently disagree. Chameleon does nothing. Artillery is targeted using radar. And the cooldown on teleporter means it's only faster than grasshopper for that first jump. For booking it away from ground zero there is no better option than grasshopper. And everyone has bagworm.
>I don't think tachikawa can adjust the timing to match ikomaa senku size
He can't. But in spaces tight enough for wires to be relevant, you don't need that much range. And I do think Tachikawa would be able to control his timing decently well within the range he is capable of.
>he fares worse than any other a ranker with medium to long range options
It's the opposite. Nino shits especially hard on ranged attackers. He doesn't even have to go full attack to wear them down due to the disparity in trion. Remember, not even Izumi has a positive record against him. At least a (mobile) attacker can force him to drop his guard to be able to kill them before they get to him.
>what does the average gameplan for tachikawa squad even involve
Tachikawa going around bullying people while Izumi covers him. Yuiga feeds.
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>>282761509
His side effect is not absolute it's still just him maximizing probabilities. In fact we've seen more instances of Jin acting falsely upon his visions than we have him accurately seeing something.
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>>282761557
then why restrict his usage
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>>282761627
Because he's WAY too broken otherwise, more than a neighbor with a black trigger.
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>>282761627
They want it to be challenging, not impossible. The B ranks wouldn't learn anything from having everything they try foiled by precognition. Nor would management get as much useful assessment data out of it.
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>>282761653
It's that or you come up with seven different plans and spin a fucking roulette every time.
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>>282740933
>B-rankers have [smurfing A-ranker], [smurfing A-ranker] and [squad of smurfing A-rankers]
I think that just kind of proves his point if almost all the most notable players in B-rank are just A ranks that got demoted for one reason or another.
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>>282761689
I just hope azuma tries, I want to see him being as much of a shitty person as his bio stated, barring him trolling hyuse he's always too nice.
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>>282761563
I think the main reason why regular Jin should still be considered an overall better agent than Tachikawa is because of his side effect. Sure, in a void they're about even, but in an actual operation you need to worry about sudden adjustments, ambushes and traps. Jin's foresight means he's impossible to ambush, impossible to trap and impossible to snipe. If there's a (really competent) sniper on the enemy team, Tachikawa needs his own sniper or shooter to put out suppressive fire and cover him. Jin can and will just dodge everything the sniper throws at him. He can only be beaten through overwhelming firepower or shoddy writing.
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>>282761627
Restricting its usage is less about “making it fairer” than it is about “not letting Jin influence the result”. The higher-ups simply want to prevent him from influencing the final results too much.
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>>282761563
>>282761723
Same anon. This whole conversation just makes me wonder: How the fuck did Tachikawa beat Jin? Jin had an easy time defending against him, Kazama squad and three of Border's best snipers. Yes, he had a black trigger, but Fuujin's special abilities only came into play to deliver the killshot. It doesn't make any sense for Tachikawa to be able to take out Jin on a 1v1 if Jin is being defensive. This means that he either exploited some hole in Jin's offense (which would be hard because Jin can literally see the future and know if you're setting him up for something) or that Jin has improved dramatically since he got Fuujin. Y'all got any details I might be missing?
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>>282761802
Fujin was practically made for Jin's side effect. Their synergy cannot be overstated.
In a melee with normal triggers, his side effect is just a sidegrade of Kage's in terms of usefulness. He doesn't see exactly what's going to happen, just possibilities with a sense of which are more likely. Eventually his opponent will choose a low probability future.
And his own physical abilities aren't enhanced in any way. So a sufficiently skilled opponent can defend against him just fine.
I think a Q&A also mentioned his side effect being distracting and that contributing to his struggles against Tachikawa.
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>>282761563
>Jin defended an entire section of the city
amo took over both his area and jins. Also others were responsible for whole sections by themselves namely Tachikawa towards east of HQ and Azuma in the south of HQ.

I don't think Tachikawa being sent to deal with illgars is enough to offset the fact that he wasn't added to the statement. Reiji for example was deployed with a team during the Galopoula raid and yet he was considered solo squad tier. At the end of the day ashihara had no reason to mention those characters as solo squad material but not include Tachikawa, it's even more apparent that it's deliberate cause Shinoada was included making it clear that it's a matter of strength not technicality. For reference, Ashihara said that gab between shinoda and Kei was as much as the one between Yuma and Konami

My point wasn't that T1 can't be rank 1 with normal triggers, it's simply that all reason points towards their title as strongest being the result of said triggers. Jin and Tachikawa can't be relative but also be treated differently on defense mission based on strength, at the very least this alone makes the whole thing shakey
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It's not all sunshine and rainbows.
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>>282762051
Jin was holding up anticipating that one moment when he'd get a clean shot at Kikuchihara's head.
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>>282762051
>most cocky guy on the planet: "heh, he's not that tough, i've fought him in meaningless training situations"
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>>282758278
After 5 years sealed environment 7 years action would be appropriate
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>>282762209
Fuck, this manga's really never ending, is it?
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>>282762209
oh god i hadn't even thought of how long this will take
i don't think it'll be invasion or rank wars tier though (i hope)
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>>282762278
20 years away mission
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>>282762278
You just gotta pray for Ashihara's spine.
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>>282762672
Even if his neck was magically fixed, he's already 44, most mangaka retire around that age anyway.
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>>282760317
>premeditated chika nuke
>No one has an answer for this.
Except for all the times meteors have been shot before, including Chika's. And the A ranks have like 7 snipers, most of whom are presumably pretty good let alone the best sniper in the series in Touma.
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>>282762955
>Touma
>Narasaka
>Perfect body control side effect
>Double snipe that perfect body control side effect can't do
>Reiji
>the dude in weakest rank A team
>Katagiri also has a sniper trigger
Was grouping that great idea?
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>>282761509
I wonder if, and this is more of a meta justification, he's being set up to be a lesson for the B-Rankers that there's no such thing as one man armies on the battlefield (please ignore broken black triggers and unfair little girls for now). Jin can have both insane combat skills, power, the ability to both see his opponent's next move AND the many possible flows of the battlefield, but he's just one dude.

As long as there's more than one fight going on, more than one defense target, more than one goal, there's a limit to how effective he can be. Jin's the most effective when he can delegate: using his side effect to nudge and advise his entire side to the best outcomes both in their individual battles and overall. Just look when the mook squad tried to sabotage the ship: Jin's side effect not only let the on the ground forces win, not only led to a kid not getting merc'd, but longer terms helped lead to establishing grounds for friendly relations with all of the enemies involved and their own prisoner. Jin is insanely useful, but the true power of his side effect only works if he has an entire organization to utilize for it.

It's entirely possible for Jin to win every fight he gets into in this test, defend every target he's responsible for, and have his side still lose overall.
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>>282761802
Remember the lessons of Naruto: just because Jin can see what's about to happen, and this is putting aside how reliable his side effect is in those situations, that doesn't mean he can do jack shit about it against a physically overwhelming opponent one on one.

In fact, Scorpion exists entirely because (if I recall correctly) Jin simply wasn't keeping up with Tachikawa with kogetsu. Using a new, tricky weapon that's purpose built for surprise critical hits is exactly the kind of thing a guy like Jin would use to level the fight against an enemy he can out read but can't out fight.
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>>282760136
>?
Tokyo Revengers
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>>282762733
Fukuchi is 45 and he just started a new weekly
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>>282763656
That's why I said most. Some people are bots that keep going (e.g. Mashima), some are not but still keep doing it destroying their body (e.g. Oda), but overall most check out by mid-40s.
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>>282763705
I guess I'm biased because I'm following Sunday and there are a lot of old-timers there. Even Shimamoto came out of the woodwork
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>>282761953
that's why you put the buttons on the side
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>>282762955
The real trick is Chika's normal Lightning shot. We've only seen her use it in conjunction with lead bullet so it's slowed down already, but a normal Lightning shot from her should be so fast it's essentially unavoidable.
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There's an element that might be missing; Fog of War.

But you're probably saying to yourself, of course there is! Nobody in this sim is going to have an omniscient viewpoint!

That's not what I mean. Everyone's been given a very rigid set of rules involving the battlefield and the engagements. Too rigid in fact, especially in prep for an expedition that promises total unpredictability(I'm bummed that we weren't given a curveball in terms of setting). So when I say Fog of War, I mean, terms of engagement and factors in play that are not apparent to your forces. In short, there needs to be factors that are deliberately hidden to see how everyone reacts to their discovery.

I say this because I keep going back to the Captain's Evaluations. It's supposed to be a mere recommendation, nothing more. But it's useless to Osamu because Suga outright said that he was giving him all the points to help him get on the expedition team. And this was no doubt recorded. What evaluator would see that and gives that outrageous score ANY justification? So I think that eval will come into play as a hidden 'surprise'.

Or I'm thinking too deep and this will be the same autist-level combat-wank as before.
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>>282765314
Well, as they say, there are known knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns. No one seems to be accounting for the UUs so far.
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>>282758257
>discount arashiyama is her boyfriend
>cool guy fucks her
>cool guy also thinks boyfriend doesn't know
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>>282758257
Satomi will get a shot at fighting his two idols, hell yeah.
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>>282738787
Osamu can just be one of the tacticians while Suwa takes the decision in the field and Kodera oversees the entire battlefield.
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>>282741268
The B-ranks have Azuma, Ninomiya, the Canadian boys and Kage.
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>>282742663
If we just look at Wakamura evaluated stats, he is not weak. His main issue is that he is dumb as bricks so he can't use his skills properly.
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>>282762051
I love how Kikuchi's arrogance is handled either by extreme friendliness (Osamu, Minamisawa), or outright BTFO'ing the shit out of him (Jin), with no inbetween.
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>>282767667
Sometimes you have people like Sasamori who become better for it. Or was that Kazama who gave him the lecture?
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>>282769220
Kazama gave Sasamori that lecture. Hell, he even brought up Sasamori when he scolded Kiku and Utagawa when they were being stubborn. Pic-related, made me like Kazama and Sasamori so much more.
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>>282769987
Based Kazama. I'd totally give him an uppie as a reward.
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Osamu should already be laying down wires as they travel, right?
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>>282769987
That arc made me fall in love with WT, and this scene in particular too. Many shounen authors out there would have had Kazama give some lame cheesy speech about friendship and never giving up, while Kikuchi and Utagawa yelled until they eventually had won.
Ashihara treats his characters with respect.
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>>282770396
That's kinda trademark of his. Just like having Kikuchihara call Mikumo arrogant for thinking he'll get ahead just for working harder as if everyone else was a lazy bum.
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Would it be possible to have a trion soldier coat the terminals in lead to waste the A-ranks' time?
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>>282770396
>>282770466
Tachikawa's "feelings don't make a difference" speech is the one that stands out to me.
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>>282770653
He wasn't quite as strict, he said they can only make a difference when there isn't a big skill disparity.
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>>282770653
I especially loved when he said something like "with such thinking you are implying that if you lose, your feelings weren't actually true to begin with".
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>>282731381
I want Maki Maki to step on my balls
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we never saw Thruster Crash
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>>282771191
Double raygust guy will deliver sometime within the next five years. Trust the process.
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>>282731381
I want to rape Maki's asshole until she starts crying ugly tears begging me to stop
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>>282771025
>>282771330
The duality of borderchan
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>>282771191
I can't believe we are gonna see this creatura in action.
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>>282770285
I think he will start once they get closer to the front line. He needs to be conservative with his trion, which makes me think he will be using Raygust more than bullets or Spider.
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>>282770285
To save trion he only has 2 raygusts, thruster, bagworm and a dream.
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send them back into ze capsules
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I just want to watch Osamu burning the A-rank food supplies with his trion soldiers.
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>>282747619
>Even with future sight powers, Jin had to invent an entirely new sword Trigger just to keep on Tachikawa's level
That's part of the classic Mary Sue trope though, giving them something that's only bad just in name to make them even more perfect. When Jin's future vision is "whatever the plot requires it to be" it's pretty clear he's a giant Mary Sue.
Luckily he doesn't appear much in the story
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>>282774034
What a pseud post, holy shit...
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>>282750567
Someone actually had Rokuro in good standing, huh
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>>282774410
It's Saint Kuruma who will take all your tards.
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>>282751470
You don't need cheese moves when you can just slash to the victory.
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>>282751470
Low special tactics doesn't mean he's bad with regular tactics.
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>>282738787
Osamu doesn't need to be a commander to do MADMAN stuff. Heck, he is already setting the tactics one page after they've chosen Kodera as commander
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>>282770530
Taichi will show some bullshit in action, trust the plan.
>>282774465
Hoping one day a drawfag draws Kuruma with a halo around his head and religious garments.
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>>282774638
Kuruma:
>Rich.
>Handsome.
>Gets to eat the russian roulette fried rice from Kako.
>Kind.
>Courageous.
>Everybody loves him.
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>>282774786
Don't forget Kobayakawa (Kako's operator) wants him iirc. Dude's got guaranteed a nice life if he ever decides to retire.
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>>282774034
Jin is the best use of future sight in any piece of fiction ever. It is insanely OP, like it should be, but Earth is so behind on trigger technology and experience that they need him to stand a chance. And even then if Aftokrator, or some other large country, launched a full scale invasion with all of their forces Jin wouldn't be able to do much of anything besides grabbing some of the higher-ups and running to hopefully start everything again from scratch.
He absolutely has the best side effect in the whole series and I'm certain there will never be a better one in the future.
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>>282735155
I honestly just want Azuma to wall snipe someone else again by Osamu's order
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>>282734602
Like that other anon said, covert ops would legitimately be a good strategy, since the attacking side will always have to be spread thin along their front line
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>>282734602
I'd eat A-Ranker food supplies.
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>>282735956
We need an english version
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>>282775431
Imagine the kino panels
>Scope
>Azuma's cold killer face
>Sudden spread showing Tachikawa/Kazama/etc. getting blown to bits
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>>282734602
by shouting
>FORM ONE BLOB ARMY
>RETARDS WE ARE DEALING WITH T1 TACHIKAWA AND FUYUSHIMA
>WE HAVE NO FUCKING HOPE UNLESS WE DEATHBALL THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF ITS ONE TEAM OR TWO THEY WILL FUCK US RAW REGARDLESS
>ABANDON ALL TERMINALS
>RETREAT FROM THE FRONT LINE
>STACK ON NINO AND PROTECT THE RANGED UNITS WITH YOUR BODIES
>ONCE THE FORCE IS ASSEMBLED F2 A CLICK THE FAR AWAY CORNER AND PRAY
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>>282775431
That's assuming that A-ranks have shitters that can get wall sniped.
Maybe an operator?
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>>282775517
Agent Hyuse...
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>>282757834
Jin's poker face must be really good, I mean he has probably lived with that side effect for more than a decade and has seen some awful shit from the previous invasions
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Final predictions in terms of performance in the combat phase, from best to worst:

B-Rank: Utagawa>Ninomiya>Kakizaki>Suwa>Wakamura>Kodera>Oji>Murakami>Kitazoe>Kuruma>Mizukami
A-rank:
Tamakoma-1>Miwa>Tachikawa>Arashiyama>Fuyushima>Kazama>Katagiri>Kako>Kusakabe
Bonus prediction: First to bail out will be Koala
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>>282758947
>Jin with scorpion has a losing record to tachikawa
He doesn't. He was tied with Tachikawa after getting Scorpion.
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>>282742764
Couldn't agents with tons of trion use more than 8 triggers? Not in rank matches, but in real combat. Btw, would be cool to see agent who doesn't use shield trigger at all
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>>282775921
Koala would be a good example to show us how an agent can come back after being defeated, since he has 4 trion. The issue is, he already jobbed to a Rabbit, too many defeats would make him look lame.
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>>282776412
Yukimaru "double raygust chad" Ichijo could probably safely forsake one shield for other trigger.
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>>282775410
>Jin is the best use of future sight in any piece of fiction ever
Yeah no, even OP, which isn't particularly good about it, is miles better at it
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>>282777045
If he fights by switching between shields and knuckles or claw-like weapons he will be forever my favorite.
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>>282774520
And the special tactics stat is weird anyway. Yuma's is 4 while Hokari's is 5. The only sense I can make of it is that it is heavily weighted towards unconventional squad level tactics and that individual cleverness doesn't factor in as much.
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>>282778011
>Viza has special tactics set to 4
Yeah that's weird as fuck, the old guy taught Hyuse basically all there is to the art of warfare, and he is the wise old man archetype. Cat-sensei probably measures it in a weird way.
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>>282778260
Because Viza doesn't need to employ special tactics to compensate for his shortcomings because he has none. Instead he employs the superior tactics of just winning and just wins.
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>>282778260
Special tactics means original strategies, like being able to use cheap tricks (like what Kuga did against him or his million "Scorpion can do that?" moments), he's probably just pretty straightforward with his use of Organon
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>>282778260
When your Black Trigger is made of multiple unga bunga omnidirectional swords, you don't have to think too hard about tactics.
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>>282778260
That's another area where special tactics is weird. The distribution is more skewed than other stats. There's only a handful of people above 5. So on the range that the majority of characters occupy, 4 is on the upper end. That's where Osamu and Nasu are at too and they're certainly not unga bunga gorillas.
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>>282759816
Thanks anon
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>>282774034
People really love using "Mary Sue" in incorrect ways. A character being strong, or even the strongest in a setting, doesn't make them a Mary Sue
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Last guesses on what silencer does? Because we're probably going to find out soon.
Since there is a kogetsu user with it, my guess is it silences the target, not the weapon. As in it messes with their ability to communicate with their squad.
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>>282781340
Could be. In the battle sims, in addition to silences, it grants an accuracy bonus on ranged attacks.
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>>282782389
Another possibility is that it does work more like what you would intuitively think and only silences the attack, maybe like that one sniper training. And the bonus accuracy in the sim is from opponents not being able to dodge on reaction since there's no report.
If that is the case, then it may only be able to "silence" the senku from the kogetsu user that has it. Which I would think would still be pretty strong and more popular than it apparently is.
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>>282781340
I'd be a lot more popular if it was that good. Poor sucker spawned isolated from his team at the end of the map? Silence that bitch.
Tons of characters running around with free slots.
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>>282781340
Urushima and Uno use it, so I guess it is a traditional silencer which in the case of Kogetsu, might just silence the slashes and/or Senkuu.
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>>282781340
Bagworm plus no sound and maybe a more opaque shot. Reduces range and fire power.
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>>282770285
He might not be able to make them more visible to other friendly squads. I said this before but their squad is stupidly turtley with Suwa shotguns, wires, a sniper and Katori, any hallway or abandoned building is a death trap.

Saki was shitting on Suwa for picking people with non compatible movement and range but he probably foresaw some marathon kind test.
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>>282759709
He is unironically one of the best anti ace agents on B side. I think his new team is much better at giving support.
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>>282759468
If I was Kodera I would give the order to just get the fuck out of T1 range.
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>>282760298
>Yuba
>Nono
>Kurauchi
>Oji
>Kanda
Old Yuba squad was broken, how did they never got to A-rank?
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>>282783645
Before Nino and Kage got demoted, I could see them being B-1 with Azuma or Ikoma as B-2, then Nasu, Suzunari-1, Suwa, etc.
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>>282783645
most likely they almost did but then got bogged down by Ikoma and his whirlwind that was developed specifically to cut Yuba and then Ninomiya and Kage dropped out of A-rank and it was all ogre
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>>282731381
Fuck, I forgot and the bread's almost finished... I'll read the chapter now.
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>>282784524
Damn I feel bad for Yuba, I think his squad may need some mid-range gunner/shooter that can provide cover both to him and Obishima.
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>>282719585
I feel like there's a scenario where they can go
>what if those terminals are refugee camps? are you willing to sacrifice half to protect the rest?
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Holy fuck, that's a lot of pages of just characters posing. This have to be a new record. Wait, now I remember Toriko, nevermind.
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>>282785272
I think their composition is really good for a three man squad. But if they did add a fourth, a more traditional gunner would definitely be the best option. Maybe they can whip Jackson into shape.
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and so we pray
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Rokuro VS Yuiga?
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>>282781340
>>282782389
Covert Shot from the battle sim skills suggests that it's something that aids in making surprise attacks. Bullets do seem to make sound so it would make sense if it works the way you'd think a gun silencer would, but that doesn't explain why a kogetsu user would need it.
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>>282786027
>Ikoma has empty slots on both side
Whatever a silenced senku does, I bet it would be really annoying from him in particular.
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Ah shit, I just remembered the new chapter released, just in time to miss this month's thread.
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>>282786417
2 threads, actually.
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>>282786455
>2 threads
Well, at least I can read the archives.
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>>282786502
If it makes you feel better I usually miss them too.
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>>282786524
There's always next month. I've usually been pretty good at keeping up with WT threads, barring me not having internet it's been one of the most consistent things I've kept up with ever since the old 1st Season/VIZanon days. Hard to believe it's been that long already.
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>>282774034
Jin’s not a Mary Sue, don’t be retarded anon
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Pray for Ashihara's neck as we come to a volume release
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new bread?



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