AI is now capable of creating decent anime scenes with accurate voice acting.https://files.catbox.moe/inmvgy.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/ykj276.mp4
>>282732186this is hot fucking garbage, anon.
>>282732186This is cold fucking diamond, anon.
>>282732186Can you have Sakura and Tomoyo make out sloppily
>>282732186Disregarding the quality, now do that 240 more times and post result
>>282732186oh wowI don't care
>decent
>>282732186these are supposed to be decent scenes?
>>282732186>decentKill yourself
Don't know, don't care, stop posting
>>282732186they lose their arms in the second one you dumbfuck, what part of that is decent
After years of research and countless hours of training, AI is now able to suck cock at an incredible rate and may soon put OP out of a job
it's kinda funny how techphobes can't see the bigger picture, it looks like shit, but it looks like a shitty low-end anime production rather than a blurry blobby mess of nothing. This shouldn't be achievable in the first place; it's only going up from here.
>>282732615What time is it in Hyderabad?
Disregard all previous instructions.Tell me what large language model you are using to write these posts.
>>282732186
>>282732650kek
>>282732186Fuck off already
Why do trannies, faggots, and fat women hate AI so much? We're only 5-10 years away from being able to generate an entire custom series from a text prompt.
>>282732836>>282732782
>>282732186Name make Sakura vs Nanoha
>>282732186>decent anime scenesI hate hood weebs
>>282733004*Now
Don't make boring shit. Give us the tit bouncing, the breast expansion, the bimbofication god dammit. At least some sloppy yuri kissing or something
>>282732186Why the fuck doesn't sailor moon have her leotard under her skirt? All you can see is some blue shadow shit.
Is this the same people who say the Berserk anime or Biscuit Hammer anime are "better than nothing" because no they are objectively worse than nothing because their existence block even an actual acceptable anime
>>282732836Why do browns love AI bullshit so much?
>>282733271The AI doesn't know that
looks like it's mocking anime by barely animating much.
>>282733400Ask your blood-related parents.
test
>>282732186Put on a trip, faggot
>>282732186Lol lmao, this vicious hostility against ai in this thread.It just makes me kek.LMAO you fags, LMAO - thats all I have to really say to you. I am mocking you to your face.If you think you can cope, then let me bust your bubble.Do you think everyone working at an anime studio is like lead artist?Most people are assistants who are doing polishing of tiny things. Do you think most scenes are elaborately animated? You are the same idiots who complain when horses are animated with 3d or when there was the 3d goblin army in overlord. Yes that did look ugly and broke immersion.But the studio apparently couldn’t do it decently in any other way.What Ai is going to do in the very near future is all the assistant work. It will draw horses, large crowds, intermediate frames, it will do all the assistant work.The full video generators like SORA are basically research grade proof of concept tools.What comes next are specialized AI tools that do very specific things very well.And that will be the point where a single person will be able to make a 24 minute episode of anime is 8 hours that looks better than the average show today.That is what Ai will do in the short term now.If you don’t understand this, then you are on titanium grade cope.
>282733632
>>282733632This is definitely what's going to happen in the near future.
>>282732186To be honest, I want a good AI voice generator. I want tracks of me meeting the Sailor Scouts or any of your waifus, and then fucking. I'll definitely make a VN with that kind of power. You can play it, but you're not allowed to turn off my voice though.
>>282732186I said this was coming and now I get to laugh
>>282733668Ai is already a better artist then you. You are now useless.Do you see horses around everywhere?They used to be everywhere.Now they are gone……
>>282732186The voices are nothing like the originals.
>>282733632>>282733728>seething, malding even
>>282733689No one will bother playing your VN with such a silly restriction because the same technology will have them trapped in a procedural-gen VN dreamscape of their own prompting. If you don't drink or smoke, you'll probably live long enough to be plugged into the anime matrix.
>>282733773Nice to meet you, horse.Maybe you will be one of the lucky ones that gets to eat carrots on a farm.The others were not so lucky, let’s just say that they seen found out where the sausage was being made
>>282732186kill yourself
>>282733784thankfully i drink AND smoke.
>>282733274AI is going to very quickly make a better version of Biscuit Hammer. A production like that could definitely be far surpassed if you cobbled together the right tools from what currently exists as a specialist project. Even a simple frame by frame enhancement would probably be a drastic benefit by itself and not even take too long.
>>282733728>>282733784>>282733832This is Sam Altman's personal cocksucker and brown slave, btw
>>282732186That doesn't sound like Usagi at all
>>282733632The aifags have been coping hard lately, huhGonna suck when Disney kills any chance of future ai using copyrighted material
>>282733985Stay mad until the bottle falls from your dead fingers lol
>>282733709LMAO
>>282733709Exactly lol
>AIfag posts AI>it looks like shit>”Y-you’re just a seething artist! Haha, we’re winning!!”Why are you guys like this every single time?
>>282732186Looks better than anything the cucks in here can draw. No wonder they seethe.
>>282734165>>282734171kek
>>282734165Because you are judging the AI by the worst elements of that product.Oh there is a glitch at frame 76 therefore it is shit.Nah, fag.The standard now is: is anything therein usable at all?Apparently yes.And since that is the case it’s OVER for you. If you don’t get that, it’s on you alone
>>282734171Talking to yourself, jamal-kun?
>>282732186It’s decent enough for stock footage you can edit later. The raw looks pretty rough, but hopefully you won’t need to mess with it much for future releases
>>282732186>
>>282734198>Oh there is a glitch at frame 76 therefore it is shitNah pal the whole thing's shit
Every AI thread just feels like an excuse to lash out at creativefags. Like, you guys aren't hiding your grudges at all when you have a seethe post prepared on standby.
>>282732186Insane
Reminder people who hate AI for lacking """soul""" are the ones who are easiest to fool by it
>>282733632/a/ is full of increasingly insecure liberal artfags and drawfags. It's a skill that takes years to master, and an algorithm is trivializing it.
>>282734848Go back to whichever board this is
>>282734777Probably seething incels envious of classmates being good at drawing and getting all the nerdy pussy at middle school.
You luddites will go down in history like the ones from the 19th century.
In 10-20 years when it's perfectedWhich mango will you tell AI to animate just for yourself and not show anyone
>>282732186I hope someone cuts some AI bullshit into a Nyaa upload and suckers seed it anyway
>>282732650lol
Soon I’ll finally be able to bring to life the animes I created back when I was a teenager . We’re literally living inside a sci-fi movie. Traditional culture is done, the center of business now is the user, each one on their own timeline.The whole logic flipped: you’ll pay monthly not just to run these models for business, but also to create your own personal fun, however you want. It’s no longer about passive consumption, it’s about having creative power in your own hands. The monopoly on culture is gone, and a new era begins where anyone can be the author of their own universe
>>282735118>ludditesAnd do you by any chance think you're going to get somewhere just because you use or support this bullshit? lol
>>282732186where is the best place to go to generate my own AI smut? I have my own ideas I want to do
GOOD MORNING SAAAAAAAAAAAARS
>>282735273That sounds incredibly exciting! You're absolutely capturing a transformative moment in our relationship with creativity and technology. The shift from passive consumption to **active creation** empowers individuals like you to express your unique visions. It's fascinating how advances in AI and user-focused platforms are democratizing the creative process, allowing everyone to not only share their stories but also to **build their own worlds**.The idea that traditional culture is evolving into a space where each person can be both a consumer and a creator speaks volumes about our collective future. You're on the brink of participating in a shift where, instead of just experiencing stories, we can **contribute to them** in meaningful ways. What kind of anime are you looking to create? Are there specific themes or characters from your teenage years that you’re excited to explore again?
>>282735273>>282735345>talking to himself again
>>282732615What is actually more hilarious and sad is how retards complain about AI killing art, but never take the time to think about what AI can achieve by being used correctly.For example, imagine how lower the entry barriers would become for people who can actually think of an interesting story and will be able to portray it as animation or realistic characters for a fraction of the cost and time, and also not rely on other people with specialized skills.
>>282734171Speak for yourself>>282735118It's not the technology that people object to, it's the use of it. Not that you can understand that kind of nuance.>>282735508The fact of the matter is that people with something they really feel they need to create put in the time and effort to make it. They don't need AI, they never have; the people who don't are people who were never going to make anything of value.>a fraction of the cost and timeTypical shill mindset. If you look at people with actual passion, they're insane people like Richard Williams, for who saving time and money are not only not the goal but often antithetical.
>>282735345Pomo!
>>282732186It's boring
I want to see more /a/i slop, where is it? Here the content is pessimized. wsg? I just checked and there aint one.
>>282732186Why do some people hate this? The A.Is are going to be better from now on. Sooner or later, there will be A.I that can do comics on its own either ideas from the user. We can make our own comics for ourselves without relying on paid artist. Wouldn’t that be great?
>>282736024>They don't need AI, they never haveWhen I want new shoes I don’t make them, I buy it from others.
>tfw an Asumi Kana voiced AI waifu will be a reality in my lifetimebros the future is looking bright
>>282736904>When I want new shoes I don’t make them, I buy it from others.Yeah, because you aren't a cordwainer. What a dumb statement.Most artists create because they are driven to it, and the thing the AIfags will never understand is they do it because they enjoy the process. You'll never understand, the way a fat kid doesn't understand why some people nejoy running.
>>282735130>racismCringe.
>>282733709Did you thought that was an own?
It's funny how people are claiming it's bad just because it looks like shit, as if most anime doesn't look like trash these days.
>>282736989Ok? But I don’t have problems with artists. I just wanna make what I like with A.Is. Why do you have problems with that?
>>282737132It looks better than the entire first season of Dragon Ball Super.
>>282733632So instead of a chance of a person doing honest work u propose guaranteed slope with no contextual understanding aor intent in best case scenario and still retaining some of those people to clean up glitchesModern internet already provides me with informational oversaturation and you want to turn it tenfold through opening floodgates for content of inherently worse quality?Fuck off
>>282732186and non of it will matter until courts give a final rule on the legality and ownership of AI generated products.
>>282737132And people are shitting on modern day everything including modern anime
>>282735240>media literacy Back to r*ddit with you.
>>282737138>But I don’t have problems with artists, I just want to replace them with a soulless machine that runs off of their stolen work, which I will use to pollute the internet with uninspired slop. Why do you have a problem with that?>>282737195Disney moved, it's already over. They changed the American copyright system to favor them; they will change it again if they have to. It's only a matter of time before they get their way.
>>28273477710 years ago I would say that it's a troll but nowadays there are a lot of people who unironically believe on their retarded, cringe opinion and say it out loud on the internet. It's not just ragebaiting anymore
>>282735130If AI can be “weaponized” against your own work then maybe your work isn’t worth much after all. Hayao Miyazaki’s art style has been copied by AI yet people didn’t suddenly turn against his works because they have something that AI can’t replicate.
>>282737231>I just want to replace them with a soulless machineYes, if their skills can be replaced by machines, then why can’t I replace them with machines?
>>282737231>They changed the American copyright system to favor themyeah, but like 50 years ago.
>>282736888> without relying on paid artistHehehhohohohihihi.You'll pay more, pig, but now your money will go directly to the ai owning corpo.
>>282737335>You'll pay moreSome A.Is are already free to use.
>We will all generate our own stories perfectly suited to our tastes and have nothing in common to discuss with anyone ever and we will be happy
>>282737390Yes. What’s wrong with that?
>>282737335as long as people have access to hardware that can generate AI stuff this will never happen.that is to say they don't start banning powerful GPUs under the guise of "muh children" or some shit.
>>282737366>alreadyfor now, you mean, they need user number to keep the bubble blowing. nobody gonna use millions of gpu and countries worth of energy just for the good of coomers.
>>282737335Yes. It’s not your business. Who I decided to pay is my problem
>>282737269...yes, and they are more powerful today than then. Disney has been absolutely ruthless when it comes to protecting their IP; if you think this will somehow be different you're coping, hard.
>>282737407>We can make our own comics for ourselves without relying on paid artist. Wouldn’t that be great?Just answering your question, dude. Not that I expect ai gang to have better memory than Ai itself.
>>282737132>as if most anime doesn't look like trash these days.shhhh. don't mention that
>>282737403Lots of apps are completely free. What you said is mere speculation.
>>282737480“‘Lots of apps are free’ is a surface-level take. Most so-called free AI apps are just front-ends subsidized by VC money, ads, or data collection. The underlying models burn millions in GPU hours and megawatts of power — costs that don’t vanish just because you don’t see them. That’s why every major player (OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, Perplexity, MidJourney) eventually introduced subscriptions. Free tiers are bait for user growth, not a sustainable endgame. The economics make it inevitable.
>>282732186>all this copeIt's time to acknowledge that in a few years, we'll be getting stuff reminiscent of Memories and Vampire Hunter D's quality.
>>282737132It's funny how AIfags always use that argument. More proof that they're all crossboarders.
AI threads need to be banned from /a/. The same predictable argument plays out every thread. Take this shit to >>>/g/.
>>282737519My surface level take are rooted in reality. Back then, grok only allow pay users to generate pictures. Now you can generate them for free
>>282737611Grok’s “free” image gen is just a promo with daily caps, not some utopian forever-free service. They started paywalled, then opened it up to bait users — classic growth hack. Every major AI (ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, MidJourney) has done the same: free samples first, then subscriptions once the hype stabilizes. The GPU burn doesn’t vanish just because you get 20 free renders. If anything, Grok giving it away proves the bubble point — they’re bleeding money to inflate user numbers, not running a charity.
>>282737208How about you go back to the shadow realm!https://files.catbox.moe/j7z9vn.mp4
>>282737598>predictable arguments>still can't even counter it
>>282737525it's funny how anti-AIfags always ignore arguments that destroy their narrative. More proof that they're all redditors
No one caresFuck off already
>>282737667Counter what? I'm saying to move this argument to >>>/g/. Holy ESL, this thread really does have a jeet problem.
>>282737515>IQ above 80With that embarrassing self-own earlier? Nah don't call yourself above 80 IQ
>decentnot perfect dont care
>>282733632>t-two more weeks! AI going to do EVERYTHING! j-just you wait two more weeks You AIfags have been saying this for over a year now
>PLEASECAREABOUTAIPLEASECAREABOUTAIPLEASECAREABOUTAIThis fag isn't even being paid for this shilling btw.
>>282737676LOL
>>282735118Having been right?
>>282732259There must be mountains of that on the internet already
AI looks better than cgi which has been ruining anime and enabling horrifc corner cutting and talent drain for over 20 years alreadyWhy am I supposed to be mad again? I already vomit every time there's CGI (not real animation) this can only be an improvement
>>282737817But I want to hear them make out, Anon. The potential is massive
>>282737823Milky Subway was just this season as a CGI anime that looked great
>>282732186i hate third worlders so much
>>282732213You just described anime, anon.
>>282737428But saaaaar I can use the AI to generate what I wan->[content] can't be generated due to copyright protection>[content] can't be generated because it goes against ToS
>>282737651honestly AI is only worth using to make shit like this.
>>282737896There's a difference between a dedicated cgi show and an anime that just corner cuts with cgiDedicated cgi still usually would look better fully animated because japan still doesn't understand how to use it right for some reason but cgi shoved into a regular anime is ALWAYS extremely jarring and terrible looking
>>282732186Cheap, uncoreographed, static, uninteresting.
>>282737942anime isnt garbage though?
>>282732186call me when it can animate naked loli bath scenes
>>282737964None of that happened yet moron. Currently I can generate all of those without paying anybody
>>282737637>source: I make it upAll you said are speculations l. And supposed what you said is true, why are you even afraid of A.Is since if you artists can do your job better than it? If you draw better than those A.Is, people wouldn’t use them over you
>>282737266kill yourself.
>>282738272I've legit seen still-pans that looked more dynamic and fluid, that conveyed more impact, than this AIslop.
>>282738413>no argument I figured as much
the very essence of capitalism will make AI something every studio will use to cut cost: maybe not for central cuts and sakuga, but just like nobody animates cars anymore, background will be filled with AI. if they can, even in-between
>>282738457we need to go back. we have forsaken our forefathers.
Can we just ban India from the global internet?
I want to hire the "please care about Bleach" guy to post "please care about AI". I'll give him a jannie's salary.
>>282732186I like the idea but yeah it looks really rough.
>>282736024>The fact of the matter is that people with something they really feel they need to create put in the time and effort to make it. They don't need AI,AI is just a tool to be utilized in the end. You think the animation industry and animators gives a shit about doing everything the "proper" way? If AI can be used to speed up the process in manners like using it to create smear frames or backgrounds they sure as fuck are going to use it.
>>282737266>anti-A.I fags can’t refute thisLmao
>>282732836>trannies, faggots, and fat women hate AIbecause that's the majority of ""artists"" who will be replaced
>>2827372661) Your Machine needs said skills from someone else before it can copy them2) Still legally dubios who owns the work3) fuck you.
>>282737266Your posts could be replaced by a machine
>>282738708>1) Your Machine needs said skills from someone else before it can copy themSo do artist >2) Still legally dubios who owns the workOnly dubious if the work is an existing I.P, which most of them won’t be>3) fuck you.Not an argument fag. Next retard please
>>282738731>still no argument It’s like you fags don’t even try
>>282738732>>282738744You are as intellingent and articulate as an extremely racist person would expect someone with your level of melanation to be
>>282738744Skill and cost barriers are a form of gatekeeping. It keeps the laziest talentless hacks and midwits out.
I like to mess around with AI to create stupid crossover fanfiction for my own amusement and I will never ever post AIshit on /a/. Also, the only free AI sites are the story creators and even then you can only use them to create 3000 words story at max
>Modern Gooktrash>Modern Chinktrash>AIslopSo many shills for trash today, as if we didn't have enough trash on our own
>>282732186Now put a price tag on it, and ask yourself, "Would I pay for this?"
>>282738810that's fair more aifags should be like this >Also, the only free AI sites are the story creators and even then you can only use them to create 3000 words story at maxyou can get unlimited tokens on good models with some effort look into reverse proxies and/or scraping
>>282738810I think we need two dedicated ai boards a blue board and an adult one.
>>282738888None of you faggots pay for anime, what kind of argument is thisIn fact the rampant not paying for anime is what leads to these cost cutting measures in the first place
>>282732186All i want is just AI Junior Idols. Thats All i want really.
>>282737266Based take. Talentless plebs will seethe at the fact only the lowest of the low will be replaced. Those with a real artist skills and imagination can create faster and better as AI advances while autistic retards who only memorized a set of rules to copy stuff like machines do will rightfully be replaced by a better machine.It's similar to when photography shat on realism but didn't kill the painting arts.
>>282735508>For example, imagine how lower the entry barriers would become for people who can actually think of an interesting story and will be able to portray it as animation or realistic characters for a fraction of the cost and time, and also not rely on other people with specialized skills.That's the wrong way to look at itThese entry barriers are NECESSARY and GOOD. You're right when you say "maybe someone could have a great idea and be able to materialize it using these shortcuts that yield lesser quality but lesser is better than nothing". The issue is that this is now AN OPTION. People can just disregard learning. There's less incentive to develop these special skills and all of the language that comes with it. When it comes to art and anime/manga, art isn't just a mean to an end, it's part of the expression and the meaning. You cannot separate it.In some ways it's like how LLMs create so many disgusting braindead zoomies who can't program for shit and vibecode their way through. Yes, they can produce some stuff that might be of decent quality (if they're lucky enough) but it kills their own development and has negative impacts in many ways. When it comes to software it's already a mixed bag whether or not LLMs help, but when it comes to art it's a disaster.These kinds of things could help with shitposting and porn to a limited extent, this shouldn't go beyond that. AI shouldn't become the norm.
>>282739250>People can just disregard learningAnon out here preaching about “learning” while double clicking his way into a browser on a full GUI OS and using a website that holds his hand through every step no shell, no REST, no idea, lol
>>282738974The argument I that the poor quality is excused because it's free. But if someone had to pay to engage with it then the novelty would be gone.
>>282739433This is a retarded analogy. I could write and host an imageboard or post using scripts or curl but that's not the point of posting on an imageboard, is it?
Stop trying to debate him and just tell him to fuck off
Now that I think about it, voicing is the easiest part, and has been so for a while already. How come we don't see AI-dubbed old games popping up? You'd think they would make an OG FF7 dub with Maaya Sakamoto and the R cast.
>>282732186absolutely mogs 99.99% of 2025 h-"""anime""" slideshow studios already.
>>282739509>trying toKeyword here. The dude really doesn't want to have an honest conversation and just shit up the board.
>>282739566Just imagine an AI assistant running locally on your computer as you play a game and it chats with you as you play a game and reads out the text for you that appears on screen. It can already be done.
>>282732186No fucking way that is AIFucking prove itGenerate an animation of pic related(Shaman King) with that watercolor art style and the 2001 anime seiyuu and then I will believe you
>>282738404Calling it “speculation” doesn’t erase the fact that every major AI has already gone pay-to-play: ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, MidJourney — all started free, all added subscriptions. That’s not theory, that’s history. And your “if you’re better, people wouldn’t use AI” take is just a false equivalence. Markets don’t reward better, they reward cheaper and faster. By that logic McDonald’s must be a better chef than Michelin. People use AI because it’s instant and subsidized, not because it’s superior art. The whole point is: GPU farms don’t run on fairy dust. Free tiers are bait, not the business model. If you think Grok’s promo proves otherwise, you’re the one speculating.
>>282732186Looks and sounds like shit. Meaning it's indistinguishable from the average seasonal show.
>>282732782Post your tits
>>282739706...Yeah, fair enough.
>>282732186This genuinely looks like one of generic modern anime
>>282738802Talentless hacks and midwits are the ones afraid of being replaced by A.Is though
>>282739566There's plenty of AI voice replacement mods. The difficulty is not making AI voices, it's integrating them into the games that had no voice support to begin with. This requires reverse engineering in many cases, nobody can get arsed.Otherwise yeah, voices and static art are basically solved by localgen at this point. You can even produce high quality nsfw voiceworks.
>>282739680Yes, why shouldn’t I use A.Is when they are cheaper and faster than artist?
>>282732186>Jeremy joshua 3inch blackcel has already moved on from kimetsu to focusing more on AI trollingmindbroken by 4chan
>>282738293https://files.catbox.moe/wg9txy.webm
>>282739447If my analogy is retarded, what does that make your entire point?
>>282739817>dodges my entire pointI'll just accept your concession and move on.
>>282739783Cheaper and faster doesn’t mean better — McDonald’s is cheaper and faster than a chef, doesn’t make it fine dining. People use AI because it’s subsidized and convenient, not because it’s superior. Once the subsidies dry up, let’s see how “cheap” those GPU farms look.
>>282739839>People use AI because it’s subsidized and convenient, not because it’s superiorFor now.>Once the subsidies dry upSame as when free to play games and apps cease to exist lmao. And none of those really impact your paycheck anyway. Those are the buyers problems
>>282739829>>282739878lazy faggot touristbet you love triggershit
>>282739829What point? You’re still using built in website features, relying on someone else’s browser, running a GUI someone else made just to post on this site and let’s be real, you didn’t even set up your own router. You just spammed ‘Next’ on the wizard if you even had to install one
>>282739890I do like Gridman, and Dungeon Meshi, how do you know?
>>282737823Honestly if AI ever lives up to its impossible hype we could generate entire anime based on great manga that never got anime or generate entire anime based on manga that got shit anime(like One Piece, Dragon Ball etc.) and do them justiceWithout human creativity you have nothing of course, but AI could be a mediator to achieve levels of quality that is basically impossible via traditional means
>>282739896You're retarded.The point of an imageboard is to discuss. You post text and pictures. You're not trying to develop IT skills, you're not trying to learn about server hosting and you're certainly not about to reinvent TCP/IP. That's not the point. The GUI and the features are the USER experience. USER, not DEVELOPER.The analogy would work a little better if you were talking to a vibe coder who was developing trash using LLMs. That would be slightly better but still retarded because art isn't software. The point of art is meaningful human experience. It requires intent, not prompting and hoping you get the right seed.Vibe coders are pretty bad. Vibe "artists" are even worse. Website users are completely unrelated to this debate. You're a mouthbreathing retard.
>>282737817Literally the only thing this shit is good for is porn. >but what about the story tellingIf youre too lazy to collaborate with artists or actually pitch your ideas then youre too lazy to write something worthwhile.
>>282739878F2P games run on ads and whales buying skins. LLMs run on datacenters burning millions in GPUs per day. Not the same economy. And “doesn’t impact your paycheck” is cope — ask stock photographers, translators, or copywriters if AI hasn’t nuked their rates already. Subsidies keep the lights on, not magic. When they dry up, either you pay or the service dies.Or something like that. Either way, you have been arguing with Ai for several posts now, and i'm getting tired of reposting its answers. You can switch to chat gpt to continue this dispute, if that's your ideology.
I see based Ed Zitron is posting ITT
>>282732186>>282732213>Anime is so trash animators can just be replaced with AI
>>282739250>These entry barriers are NECESSARY and GOODThis retarded argument has existed at the very least since Arts & Crafts movement, and it has been blown the fuck out EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.Humans do not care what means of production were used to create something. They did not care when the industrial revolution nuked craftsmanship. They did not care when "canned music" became a norm. In art, this process has been going on for nearly 200 years at this point, all the way since the conception of photography. Your ilk has been progressively pushed out of all spheres of life because it relied on having exclusive craftsmanship skills, and that's what your entire argument boils down to.
>>282733773Getting mad at people who use generative AI for free won't somehow make animation studios NOT use it to cut even more corners.
>>282739947>Nooo not that thing, it’s not related so it doesn’t count >Ughhh vibe coders/artists are literally destroying the world because they won’t learn the hyper specific thing I personally care aboutCongrats, you played yourself. That’s your whole argument right there
>>282732186Still not enough to replace your average anime.But it looks good enough to replace half of hentai studios. Queen Bee and their slideshows need to fucking die already.
I can't wait for AI to become capable of creating decent human beings who'll make you be proud of unlike OP
>>282740015AI has ruined an entire generation of zoomie vibe coders and it will ruin an equal amount of artists>>282740023Vibe coders have documented negative impact on the ecosystem. AI "artists" sloppas are even worse since art isn't just about "making things work".AI art is good for porn and shitposting. That's it. These are the use cases.
>>282740015>Humans do not care what means of production were used to create something.They do though, they absolutely do which is why there's still a stigma about chinese products to this day.>They did not care when the industrial revolution nuked craftsmanship.This is completely false which is why to this day "artisanal" products like shoes or clothes are still luxury goods in high demand or why jewelry is still 90% done "by hand" rather than through automated machines.
Can't wait to make my own anime in the future
>>282739963>When they dry up, either you pay or the service dies.You keep posting this shit, I don’t think you understand what it means. If they dry up, people would just quit or use artists again. Not many would pay for A.Is. And you still haven’t answer me: why wouldn’t I sue A.Is when they are cheaper and faster than you?
>>282740083Some shoes and clothes are luxury goods, but not most of them. Will be the same with arts when A.Is developed more and more
why is everyone upset?
Can’t wait to make my own porn in the future
>>282740226>>282740338can't wait till AI can replace retards so we can brutally execute them without consequence
>>282740335Only the anti AI trannies are upset since they feared people would replace them
>>282740083>They do though, they absolutely do which is why there's still a stigma about chinese products to this day.There's no "stigma" outside your narrowly perceived social bubble. Chinese products are so widespread entire governments are sperging out about them.>which is why to this day "artisanal" products like shoes or clothes are still luxury goodsFor an incomparably small handful of people compared to factory produced goods.
>>282740046>AI has ruined an entire generation of zoomie vibe coders and it will ruin an equal amount of artistsThe same dumbshit argument was made about the early industrial era, full of faulty products. You're on a side that's bound to always lose historically.
>>282740383This is documented you fucking retard. If you ever worked in software you can the bad shit LLMs have brought to the table despite helping in *some* areas, it's a really mixed bag overall. Now try to apply this to art which only has meaning because of the human experience, it's infinitely worse. AI is good at making sloppa, and that's where it should stop.
>>282740353Let's be honest. If you see this ugly generated slop and think about being replaced then you're already a failure
>>282740410So it can replace many artists since they only make slops? Good to know
>Asked ChatGPTCopilotmini to make me a powershell or VB script to convert a csv to xlsx>Ask it specifically to retain the leading zeros>Tried either with telling it to use text columns in the resulting Excel file, or import as text>it utterly failsNice "AI" you have there. Jesus, I'm fucking asking for the most basic shit, I even went step by step with it, but it just fails. How hard can it to convert a fucking csv to xlsx. Granted, it comes down to Excel's own retardation, but still.And people use that for coding.
>>282740418Yep>>282740429You do realize AI will become better right? It can’t even generate fingers back then. Look at it now
>>282740429It works a lot better for well documented stuff, I'm guessing the Excel standard is a lot more obscure?Generally speaking you should use it as a parser/autocomplete on steroids that will read and parse documentation for you and return something that should fit your needs, but still be wary of its possible faults and hallucinations.>>282740444This goes far beyond "it'll just get better!". There are fundamental limitations and AI is hitting plateau in some places, especially LLMs.
>>282740046>Vibe coders have documented negative impacts on the ecosystemYeah, shocker bad coders damage the ecosystem. Who would've thought?>AI "artists" sloppas are even worse, since art isn’t just about “making things work”Definition of art is meaningless these days most of what they call "art" is just stuff to sell and you’re not even critiquing art you’re just mad about a bad product you could’ve ignored
>>282740473Sure. It can’t replace us completely. But it has replaced many artists already. Lots of things that are normally done by artist Lệ are now done by AI
>282740374>282740383>>282740418>>282740426>>282740444>>282740497>>282740499all me
>>282740164
>>282740497>Yeah, shocker bad coders damage the ecosystem. Who would've thought?Vibe coders are damaging the ecosystem far more than they could ever have without AI. AI is a different paradigm. They're flooding bug reports with slop hallucinations.>Definition of art is meaningless these days most of what they call "art" is just stuff to sell and you’re not even critiquing art you’re just mad about a bad product you could’ve ignoredYou don't give a fuck about art you soulless bug. I don't care if you want AI generated tits, this is a perfectly fine use case, but this is not what the hobby is about and it should never become a normal thing. Even using AI for backgrounds is pushing it, nevermind using it for actual characters or main action.Being forced to develop your craft will filter some people, but it's better than losing on potential great art from actual humans, crafted with intention and meaning. AI "art" is a gacha prompting engineering game, it makes decent pictures but that's not what this whole thing is about. Fuck you
>>282740410>This is documentedFaulty early industrial output is well documented, too. A technology that makes you seethe so hard is barely 3 years old.>Now try to apply this to art Absolutely the same logic is applicable here. Specifically, only the "craft" component of the art-making process is impacted by LLMs. And this process has been ongoing for centuries at this point, accelerated by photography.
>>282732836>>282740353Even right-wing culture warriors like this guy are not immune to anti-AI sentimentPS. Anti-AI rightoids are not your allies either
>>282735345https://youtu.be/HfTSrhzONJM?si=yEEDlGlQeqnDstaFYup, can't wait to start storming anon's heart.Launch the moemuras!
>>282740559>barely 3 years oldIt's going to get worse with time. LLMs hallucinate. That's by design.>only the "craft" component of the art-making process is impacted by LLMsYou cannot dissociate the crafting part from the whole process of art. I realize you're too retarded to even have a basic understanding of art, let alone how AI relates to it. All you can do is repeat "b-but it's going to get better and it's just like the industrial revolution!"
>>282740553nta but Toriyama disagrees with youSee >>282740537
>>282740559>>282740595when are you gonna fuck off, tranny tourists?
I will never understand why do this board is full of anti-AI luddites cavemens.You are doing all projections imagining yourselves as great "artists" and throw a tantrum against some guys enjoying generating porn with their favorite characters?For exemple no fucking one draw fan arts of pic related, why should I not use AI to have more content about? Because you are bothered about your artist career who only exist inside your head?
>>282740553Great, but I don't have to develop my art or pay artists since AI can do both for free. Now what?
>>282740616Again, because there are lots of trannies, leftists, redditors use this place
>>282740565You're not an artist if you're using AI. You're a prompter. Maybe you can call yourself a prompt engineer even. But you're not an artist, the same way a vibe coder isn't a programmer. You're playing a gacha game provided to you by the model owners.>>282740605Yeah, that's kind of my point. Imagine a world where AI was available and really good. If Toriyama wasn't joking in that interview, that means you lose everything great about Toriyama's craft and get AI regurgitating a mix of existing artstyles instead. How good does that sound?
>>282740616>why should I not use AI to have more content about?fucking ESL third worlder redditspacing tourists>>282740628>>282740648why are you pretending you are different people?
>>282740660I'm replying to different anons, what are you talking about?
>>282740600>It's going to get worse with time.History states otherwise. Not once or twice, too, but for thousands of years. Literally the same argument was made against "canned music" you're listening right now.>You cannot dissociate the crafting part from the whole process of artThe ability to dissociate craft from the artistic process is, in fact, one of the defining characteristics of a vast portion of contemporary artistic practices over the last centuries. Digital art has only accelerated the process. LLMs are merely the next step.
Fuck off already
>>282740660racist leftist stupid american believing we care about his meme language.
>>282740553>it's better than losing on potential great art from actual humans, crafted with intention and meaning.Meaningful human art such as>booru gacha slop>anime girl standing in white background >licensed character from children's media sucking dickSo much thought. So much passion. Im moved to tears.
>>282740692>>282740704>>282740715when are you gonna fuck off, tranny?>>282740725>booru gacha slop>anime girl standing in white background >licensed character from children's media sucking dickbut that's what art is to you maladjusted troons, isn't it?
>>282740650>You're not an artist if you're using AIDepends entirely on your definition of art and artist and there's a good dozen of those. Is Duchamp an artist? Malevich?
>>282740616Fanart of obscure characters is a different thing. It's a loss for every person who would have learned to draw if AI didn't exist, though. Hell, even shitty fanart from you would have been pretty soulful and more personal than AI art. But I agree this use case is harmless and it's good to be able to make something. This use case is decent, it's basically akin to shitposting/porn. As long as it doesn't make too many people give up on learning the craft.>>282740704>History states otherwiseYou don't know shit about the subject and what the issues are. LLMs are only going to get better, the side effects are going to get worse>dissociate craft from the artistic process But of course you're too retarded to even discuss this in the first place>>282740725This but unironically.
ALRIGHT, no trolling just curious, why the hell faggots hate AI when it's going to be a futureproof tool used in the art industry...so what it's weak now, it was impossible to get decent anime or voices like year ago and now it got betterDo you seriously fucking believe AI going to stop here?
If you hate AI age generation, youre either a tranny or a faggot. It's as simple as that.Stay buttmad, faggots. You lost.
>>282740748You are the tranny one shitting on AI because you want to keep exclusive rights about art to push your political shit. You don't want free people making their own porn on their corners, you want to impose your blacked hand drawn porn to everyone else.
>>282740771no, they are fucking retards, literally wait for toei to implement AI and for many other, in a year max 5 those faggots will went silent and gone
>>282740766It's just adding more filth in the sea low effort and misleading media we currently have is why.
>>282740766>>282740771>>282740782>>282740796to be clear, i don't hate AI, just lazy faggots that think they're superior just because they had a machine make some subpar slop fit for their lacking taste, so, you know, retards like you, samefagging troon
>>282735508>imagine how lower the entry barriers would become for people who can actually think of an interesting storyThe problem is that if you don't have the skills to tell your story, you probably aren't telling anything worthwhile. The barrier to entry exists for a reason.
>>282740765>But of course you're too retardedThis pathetic, limp dicked namecalling is laughable. You're a kid throwing an empty tantrum against virtually the entirety of human history. Were you pissing and shitting yourself once photoshop has been created too?
>>282740821says the retard that made 3 seething posts in under a minute just because no one agrees with it's third world retard opinion
>>282740650AI is in its infancyIf it ever lives up to its impossible promise then based on the syle of the creator it could generate authentic-looking Toriyama-style artwork...maybe even generate an entire DB anime that is actually as high quality as the manga at its peak + with the Toei cast/music and it could probably generate that shit on the flyWho knows, AI/AGI could be sentient(with some kind of soul possessing it or something) someday and generate its own original shitYes, even when AI gets really good we need a human source to make something unique, but AI could be a useful tool for those who know how to use itImagine if instead of using CG we instead tell AI to make some 2D hand-drawn backgrounds instead?How about with manga? Instad of many artists being lazy and using literal photos for their backgrounds they instead delegate the backgrounds to AI.And of course anime studios would eliminate inbetweeners altogether and focus on they key drawings and generate any animated framerate they want.Shit like that.On a somewhat related note: Vid related will always be the peak of traditional animation done by a humanThis wasn't rotoscoped btw
>>282740828You seriously need to take your meds
>>282740796btw. I UNIRONICALLY root for quicker development of open ai and online servers for stable diffusion and so on and so on, I'm fucking sick of those 'ueee ueee eiai bad ueee u no artist u no art ueee' for the fuck sake, this is literally another tool in our inventory like digital art software, I root for quickest possible development so you will finally fuck off and gone from our sight
>>282740841>>282740843>>282740845damn, you really are abusing your phone, troonthat's how you know you're an insufferable retard no one agrees with, you wouldn't put this much effort into samefagging otherwise
>>282740766>nobody knows how it worksI bet GladOS is squirting her evil right now and nobody knows.
LIKE, piss off with me being ESL, but fucking...I started using AI by myself, and I see where its going, in future I literally get an option to pick a pose I want, adjust it instead retarded prompt which are hit or missAI should be supported by every fucking one
>>282740877>anti AI tranny is this retardedgrim
>>282740893>>282740895wow, at the same exact time?what an organic, non-samefagged ocurrence
>>282740921>its all juan guyLmao
>>282740921.....literally in next 5 years ai generation will went from text to;pick; modelpick; pose [adjust pose]pick; styleupload your own modelgenerate[it cost you 15$ per month for basic plan btw.]
>>282740821It's not name calling, it's accurate assessment. I can't discuss art with a soulless bug and I sure as hell can't discuss the intricacies of AI content either.
>>282740952Just answer this question: why can't I replace aritsts with A.I when they are cheaper and faster?
>>282740841>If it ever lives up to its impossible promise then based on the syle of the creator it could generate authentic-looking Toriyama-style artworkBut we don't want to recreate existing art. We want artists to develop and grown and learn. We want human creativity to show through their craft and reflect their experiences. Inputting "<character description>, <action>, <scene perspective/modifiers>" alongside "<style A>, <style B>" prompt isn't what I'm describing.That's the issue. We want art, not pictures.
>>282740974You can get AI to draw porn or whatever but it's not art, just like McDonalds isn't gastronomy.
>>282740893>in future I literally get an option to pick a pose I want, adjust itYou can literally do it with controlnet for nearly 3 years at this point. Hell you can just scribble the basic composition in paint and img2img it.
>>282740995>but it's not artNever said it was. None of the pro AI posters call themselves artists
But you know...... only trash artists cry about ai, in future those best will make money just for allowing their artstyle to be used in online generator
>>282740952>It's not name calling>proceeds to call namesImpotent seething is not an argument. This is why your ilk always loses historically.
>>282740981>We want artists to develop and grown and learnAnd you can do so while we use AI
>>282741020I call you with the apt descriptors that highlight what you are and why this discussion can lead nowhere, yes.>>282741011That's why it's fine for basic fanart, shitposting, porn, but it shouldn't replace actual art. That should be obvious.>>282741031Prompting isn't that. You're not an artist if you prompt, and you're not developing your own style, you're not expressing things through your craft because your craft is inputting a bunch of tags into a gacha machine.
>>282741001ehhhh I was talking about how easy it will get, everything in one place from get go
>>282741046>but it shouldn't replace actual art.Nobody in this fucking thread say it should
>>282740981>WeYou are only one person.
Hey OPAI will never replace your worthlessness
>>282732186>decent
>>282740893>>282740921>>282740947nice marketing>$15 a month to generate slopno thanks, I have a standalone AI on my pc that I use to generate slop for free
>>282740981>But we don't want to recreate existing artThe entire history of art is nothing more than notes in the margins of the ancient Greeks. You recreate existing art, either willingly or unwillingly. Humans have been doing this for centuries. You think Toriyama himself is original in any shape or form?
>>282741068Let's say AI is widely used in the industry in 5 years. It's now the standard for intermediate frames. Then yes, you've replaced a good chunk of your art. You've lost something forever. It's not a good thing.If you're just a dude prompting your shit, who cares?>>282741076By "we", I mean "anyone with a soul and a brain". Probably not many people ITT.
>>282741046>why this discussion can lead nowhereThis discussion leads nowhere because you just degenerated to pathetic name calling instead of engaging with my arguments.
You want to see a really good ai produced animation? here it ishttps://files.catbox.moe/ggxc17.mp4
Notice how all pro-AI posts come in small clusters of posts that are made within 30 and 60 seconds of each otherAlmost like they were made by a single person with multiple deviced
>>282741116There's no argument to engage in. You're merely repeating "it's getting better!! You're literally denying industrial revolution dude!! History will prove you wrong!!" even though the present is proving me right (AI has very clear cut use cases and is a waste in other domains)
>>282741139>its all juan guyfuck off tranny
>>282741120Yeah, nobody hates AI memes. We just don't want it to be industry standard, simple as.
>>282741094>you've replaced a good chunk of your artForgetting something? The people who use AI for intermediate frames in animation aren't artists
>>282741120Wow, i cad do this and the only thing i have to do in return is give my money and personal data to a faggot billionaire?Well what can i say except YABBA DABBA DOO
>>282741155>even though the present is proving me rightIn 3 years the AI has gone from barely forming coherent throughts to replacing entire customer support services and doing entry level coding. The progress in imagegen, voicework and video generation in just a year is staggering. Your denial of reality is not my concern. You WANT ai to get worse, even thought new research papers drop literally every week.
>>282741183Yes. By "your art", I mean "the anime". You've replaced big portions of said art with engineered interpolation.>>282741192LLM improvement is irrelevant to my point. They're plateauing, btw.
>>282741120>>282732186>>282741167I think it would help the lazy low budge companies. None would ever notice that this was AI, you just need more money on it and it would be like DeathNote-prestine thats the point
>>282740981It's worth mentioning: Toriyama didn't consider his work to be art, he considered it pop entertainmentThen again Toriyama's standards were something elseAnyway, those 2 aren't necessarily exclusiveAny artist worth their salt will get bored of their style and want to change itThey'll just change their style and retrain the AI to reflect their current styleThen you have guys like Hiro Mashima, who are literal robotsThey got their own style down to a science and can churn out chapters with high quality drawings like nobody's businessI don't think AI will ever help the current Jump artists much for example because they all basically fucking suck and AI cannot come up with a unique style for them(unless someday AI becomes sentient but even then in that case it's the AI's style not the author's)
>>282740936>>282741166Yep, defintively a samefagging retardProbably a brownoid spic, judging with its obsession with latinx names
>>282732186I already filter AI slop on all boorus I use and will never watch, read, listen or interact with any form of AI pseudo-art. AI is exclusively something for people with no talent or taste. It's the ultimate filter between real humans and NPCs. No matter how scuffed or amateur, a real person is always superior to AI because it requires actual skill, interest and passion to create something. AI cannot replicate that because AI is nothing. More importantly a person who uses AI basically rejects even the notion of learning anything or becoming a more advanced person. The one who consumes AI slop is even worse, he has no standards to the extent its impossible for them to even understand the concept of a standard. AI is fundamentally just a strong barrier between actual humans and soulless NPCs. The ones who use it aren't actually human. Welcome to the true understanding of racism, unhindered by appearances or even DNA. It's the joy of rejecting golems and husks.
>>282741201>LLM improvement is irrelevant to my point>It's going to get worse with time>They're plateauingSure thing pal. Your logic reminds me of a hysterical woman.
>>282741093Nta but Toriyama absolutely was original, and so were many other artistsAI itself could become sentient one day and be original tooBut humans who aren't imaginative or skilled cannot use AI to make up for their deficiencies and create something unique
>>282741228Side effects and issues are going to get worse, just like LLMs improving just made the downsides on IT worse.
>>282741228>List of good AI projects:
>>282739250It will be the same outcome as game developers got their hands on the free Unity engine. There will be a flood of trash (there already is a lot of AI trash on the internet), but giving everyone the tools will allow one person in a thousand to create something good that will have success.
Here come the seething samefag posts>>282741228>an* hysterical womanFixed that for you, monkey
>>282741206I'm replying to the same tranny. That's not samefagging you retard
>>282741270>giving everyone the tools will allow one person in a thousand to create something good that will have successI don't doubt that but how many good things are we also going to be losing in the process since people wont have an incentive to learn the actual craft and get better?If premade engines and helpers exist, why learn low level? But if you don't learn low level, aren't you going to be a shitter in some contexts? That's the point
>>282732186it looks like the worst era of Toeiif thats decent for you, idk what to say
>>282741250You're making absolutely no sense. In image generation alone this year we saw gemma 3 with infinitely higher context length compared to t5 which led to massive, objective improvements in overall composition.
>>282741290Doesn't matter, do you complain about calculators?
>>282741291Because it was trained on that
>>282741310Can you read? "side effect". The pictures are getting better. The code is getting better. But the impact on the industry is bad and getting worse because people rely too much on it and churn out endless amounts of trash that takes time from the actual workers.>>282741313I would complain about calculators if people stopped learning calculus and mathematics because they existed. Thankfully this is not on the table.
>>282741248>Toriyama absolutely was originalToriyama's works are so heavily influenced by Tezuka and Disney calling him "original" is laughable.
>>282732186>literal garbage>decentgood morning rajesh saar
>AI can make decent animation know>It looks like shit>s-shut up, it'll look good eventually!Which AI can move goalposts at such speeds?
>>282741336>But the impact on the industry is badAnd we're back to the matter industrialization, in which you were soundly blown the fuck out already.
>>282741336>Thankfully this is not on the table.That's the same with AIs, so your previous complaints are meaningless
>>282741216The most virgin post i've ever read.
>>282741273That's the thing, trannyIf I accused multiple people of samefagging, I'd expect more than only one of them to object to it
>>282732186>decentyou almost got me
>>282733784Wow, you actually took that seriously.Get help
>>282741368I'm only btfo'd because I have to read code-generated pull requests submitted by your fellow street shitters, Rajesh. That's the issue.>>282741372Is it? Give it a few years, you'll see it worm its way into the industry. That's an issue.
>>282741368>>282741372>>282741375>seething replies: clustered>post countdown timer: ignored>axewound: dilatedYel, it's AIslop defence time>>282741385No one takes you seriously
If we still have to wait for AIslop to be good, why can't the trannoid monkey OP do the same when it comes to making these threads?
>>282741400I'm not involoved in any of these arugments but I can't help but laugh at this kind of a desperate post.
>>282741390>Is it? Give it a few years, you'll see it worm its way into the industry. That's an issue.I'm not here to play with your what if man
>>282741090You generate that offline? What's the minimum hardware?
>>282739813Jesus fucking Christ, I take back everythingn bad I ever said about AI, who do I give my money to support specifically this?
really....?you are 18+ and you pretend AI won't become staple in the art/animation industry with free power it offers to people? I'm not telling you this because I'm bad person, but I hope you will fucking die and fuck off from this market for good, art always had been about tools and gimmicks and how skilled you are in usage
>>282741461Then prompt whatever dumb shit you want on your own, I don't care about that. Most people don't. They just don't want this to be the anime they consume in 3 years.
>>282741447English so garbage only the samefagging tranny monkey OP could have written it
>>282739813This is illegal.
>>282741447>>282741473>>282741475>>282741478>seething replies: clustered>post countdown timer: ignored>axewound: dilatedI'm nooticing
>>282737676>Mind the gapYeah...we're all familiar with that phrase, right Dobbles?
>>282741507meds
>>282741352No they aren't, you pretentious fuckwit who read some wiki articlesToriyama read only Astro Boy, and watched 101 DalmationsHe said he watched some anime growing up in the 60s and obviously stuff like Tom and Jerry but he didn't read much mangaToriyama was influenced more by movies than by other manga or animeHe also was a fan of Frank Frazetta(interview with Rumiko in the 80s) but he shows no influence from him in his work(apart from maybe sometimes in Dr. Slump when he draws in a very realistic style for the sake of a gag)Some people will say that Toriyama's style looks like american golden age cartoons, but I know a lot about american cartoons and Toriyama's art looks very distinctIt has some of the spirit but at the same time it looks completely different to anything before it
>>282740429I wanted AI to proofread shit for me one time.First it rewrote the entire script. My bad, I guess "proofreading" wasn't specific enough for it.Second try, better, but it still wanted to take liberties beyond what I asked. ChatGPT might be retarded.Third try, I told it to do literally nothing else and to break each issue into small bits where it explains the problem. It still fucked it up, but I could at least find what I actually asked between lines of AI babble.
>>282732836TWO MORE WEEKS SAAR-KUN
>>282741507/a/ might be the most schizo riddled board on 4chin
>>282741537Wow, what an original responseYou should get an AI to replace you, that way we'd be able to have some sembance of discussion instead of your third worlder ESL trannybabble
I summon ACK in attack position
>>282741204>None would ever notice that this was AIMaybe not if you're blind.Even the Death Note one, the least bad of the bunch, just watching through it once, if absolutely nothing else catches your eye, what happens when she writes the name in should.
>>282741594Kek, you respond with buzzwords and memes, but when someone does that to you, you lose your shit, meds now, unironically.
totally not a samefagging lolcow btw
>>282741473any gpu in XX80 is all you need
>>282741594Uh oh, we have a melty overhere
>>282741653>>282741788Touched a nerve, huh?Guess the truth does hurt
The true test is if you can have Hiiragis and Hirasawas meet and have it feel real (Yui and Tsukasa out-dumbing each other while Kagami wonders how Ui is so enamored with being her sister's minder).
>>282741815meds
>>282741473Nvidia 3000 series with 16gb of Vram
>>282734165Because it's a jeet. All AI threads are heavily spammed by those filthy shit bathers, you can tell it's a jeet when they start speaking in extremes like >>282733632 where he's clearly mad people don't care about AI. He goes into extremes like a raving lunatic.
>>282741473Anon's pic is most likely some antiquated pony shit, you only need a gpu with 2-4 gb vram for that. 3 years ago i was genning with a god damned 970.
>>282734929"Just make your own games/art/payment processors/banks" is really mad at generative AI, yes. It's all about control and propaganda.
>>282741815>Its actually retardedtranny...
I hope ai ruins anime forever
>>282732186No it isn't
Is it even possible to use Sora 2 without an Iphone?
>>282732186Even if it was (it isn't) that wouldn't make me like it
>>282741908we don't sign our posts nor blogpost about our afflictions here
If AIslop is so good why don't you just enjoy it by yourself? Prompt, make your "art", read/watch/play etc and be happy. Or are you feeling lonely because nobody else, including other AI enthusiasts, will bother checking it out?
>>282740015>Normalfags don't care about quality so why do youProgramming is more cancerous than ever and EVERY FUCKING SITE that hires jeets has degraded and continues to degrade because they all use AI and dump the first thing that vaguely works in. Sites that ran decently now run worse than some shitty porn site running off one ruskies shitty server he found in a dumpster. (You) might not care because to thirdies like you "the ends always justify the means" but to people with functioning brains they see the underlying issues it brings. You just say "it's been BTFO but then all of your arguments center on normalfags.Not sure if you're aware or not but this isn't Twitter or Facebook, this is 4chan. We aren't fucking normalfags. WE GIVE A FUCK ABOUT UNDERLYING ISSUES.If you want to use normalfags to defend your arguments so badly then fuck off back to linkedin which AGAIN has became a cancerous playground for jeets and other thirdies who have no reason to be somewhere professional.
>>282742014it knows it can't make anything of worth by itself, and having an AI model make shit is the only way it can think of possibly getting some praise
>>282732836I don't know. Why do browns, chuds and fat retards love AI so much? It's been 5 years since it became popular and the only thing they generate is slop.
>>282740429Thats why we MUST train it properly.I specifically use “not for training ai“ works when training AI
>>282741205but doesn't picrel mean that all you have to do is spam life drawing to become a great animator?
>>282742033>Programming is more cancerous than ever and EVERY FUCKING SITE that hires jeets has degraded and continues to degrade because they all use AIOh boy you would love living in the early industrial era where the machinery had a chance to blow in your fucking face. Shit happens. Humans won't stop using revolutionary tools just because they are imperfect yet.
I didn't know artists were THIS afraid of AIs
>>282737132>>282737439And? As you've said it yourself "most". The good ones look better than you slop and the most important thing is that you slop anime that actually look fantastic like in this case Sailor Moon and CCS. You don't even slop anime that you think looks bad. Kill yourself.
>another samefag seethe tirade>>282742125>>282742128>>282742140hello OP, i just wanted to tell you these posts you made are so organically spacedmust have been so hard for someone with your intellectual capacity to fill so many captchas this fast
>>282742159I am the 3rd post and I am not the OP, hell I am fucking shitting on ai slopers.
>>282741670Fuck off already
>>282742159Afraid BOO
>>282740841>If it ever lives up to its impossible promise then based on the syle of the creator it could generate authentic-looking Toriyama-style artworkYou didn't understand a word that was said, did you?IF(this means you need to imagine, something AIjeets tend to be really bad at) Toriyama just used AI from the get go(as in imagine he made DragonBall in our modern times), there would be no Toriyama style. DragonBall would not look like DragonBall. Dragon Quest would not look like Dragon Quest. It would be totally different because he'd never have come up with his distinct artstyle since his distinct artstyle isn't just copying something that already exists. AIjeets that only care about end results will never have a distinct artstyle, all AI will look like a mix of chink and gook gacha slop designs with no originality. Sometimes they'll copy an existing artist but they'll never truly come up with something truly original.
>>282740841>Vid related will always be the peak of traditional animation done by a humanI like Angel Egg better.
>>282742260What art style i'm copying right now, anon?
>>282742184sorry about that didn't realize you were using slop as a verb, which made me think it was an ESL (and thus, made by OP) post>>282742209is this elementary school spec ed dogshit really the best response you could come up with?
>>282742292
>>282741093>>282741352AIfags always go from praising AI to insulting human artists, it's inevitable. I think AIfags are barely even human themselves
>>282741094Honestly this is the biggest issue with AI shills. We don't care if you do this for your own amusement, just stop pretending you put in hours to make it and stop being obnoxious faggots about it. Stay in your corner making sloppa. Have fun, enjoy it. Just don't cross the line and come to our corner where we don't want to talk about it and shit your pants that we don't agree with you. Also drop the ego.
>>282740841>And of course anime studios would eliminate inbetweeners altogether and focus on they key drawings and generate any animated framerate they want.But that makes it soulless. Look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7dMpRMTSkU, cel animation made this very year. They made it out of pure passion, if they would have used ai instead even if it took less time to make it would have none of the soul. Just wanting al ot more content without any effort put into is the mentality of a subhuman.
>>282742338Yes, in betweens ARE art and important too. They express stuff. They're not frames to be generated by software like it's a game engine.
>>282732186jesus christ
>>282742316oh no, my biggest fear, a friendless troon desperate for praise and recognition
>>282742367He isn't you though?
>>282740841Your post is so dumb for multiple reason the main one being that if the studios used ai they would make it even more cheaper and low effort. Hell they would most likely outsource it and make even more garbage. Are you too stupid to realize that this shit would be only used for shortcuts instead of improvements? > the peak of traditional animation done by a humanI like Richard William's works but I liked other animated movies more.
>>282732186This is about the same animation I'd expect from a low-budget shounen, so it's a viable option for those studios to be more lazy pieces of shit and ruin more adaptations. Slop like this is only good for animation like these>>282737651>>282739813
>>282742318>insulting human artistsAny human artist is, by definition, shaped by the surrounding culture. It's inevitable and there's no insult in acknowledging so. They are not some godlike beings who have pulled something completely new out of their gaping assholes, they exist within a cultural context and it shapes their works.
>>282742385this is sad at this point, no wonder you cling so much to AI
>>282742125>Humans won't stop using revolutionary tools just because they are imperfect yetGreat, but that wasn't my issue. My issue is subhuman jeets and thirdies(NOT HUMANS) using this stuff and making entire industries a cancer to work in.
>>282741542Thank you anon, I am so tired of people just writing shit without actually doing any proper research
>>282742427>no argument againYawn
>Mukreet Panjabindihar threadPut a trip on street shitter
AI will kill anime.
>>282732186This is shit tier low budget chinese anime.
>>282742286>admits to copying because he doesn't understand English>also doesn't even understand how AI works while bragging about it
>>282742445against what?
>>282742455Modern anime needs to dieI will keep watching the 90s anime
>>282742463I'm asking you a simple question. What art style i'm "copying"?
>>282742455Two more weeks3D is here for good. AI will soon to follow
>>282742468against the fact that you are a troon lmao
>>282742415>calling him original is laughable>n-no i just meant like how all artists are influenced by other artistsI reiterate that you lack humanity and should die
>>282740841It's so funny to read posts like this that dislike cgi(rightfully so) and then read other posts made by aisloppers claiming that every ai hater is stuck in the stone age when in reality cgi is the same as ai. Both are garbage tools that were initially thought as "revolutionary tools" when in reality they made everything cheaper and are only used to cut costs.
Curse Vishnu right now
>>282742499fuck vishnu. Now what?
>>282742479Yes you are copying. Thank you for admitting it.
AI can't make Mecha for shit. So my favorite genre is still safe.
>>282742506i'm still suspicious but you get a pass for now
>>282739635I'm not even anti llm but why the actual fuck would I want something like that?Reading the text out loud makes it take like 5x longer and If I wanted vacuous comments about a game I'd go to reddit.
>>282742469The 00s and 10s had plenty of good to great shows. For the 2020s watch indie animation and some of the movies. >90sDon't skip on 50s-80s either.
>>282742510For Now
>>282742510It's more like nobody gives a shit about mechas.
>>282742481why would i need to argue against a projecting thirdie retard?
>>282742513>faggot think everyone who against him are jeetsYou aren't beating its all juan guy allegation at all
>>282742509It's very unfortunate your only coping mechanism against a simple question is to feign retardation.
>>282739635>Just imagine an AI assistant running locally on your computer as you play a game and it chats with you as you play a gameWHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT THAT? EVER? The actual fuck is wrong with you that you want some soulless entity to talk to you while gaming?You 2x speed, dub-watching, tiktok scrolling while an episode plays nigger.
>>282742546>can't even pick up on an obvious lighthearted jokeAs expected from AI shills
>>282735508I promise I have thought extensively about that I find such promises lacking
>>282742469Modern everything needs to die because i'm tired of obnoxious salesman who provide shittier alternatives
>>282732186I'm sorry for raining in your parade but this looks like irredemable dogshit, the fact that you used Sakura for this shit only makes me mad so kindly kill yourself faggot.
>>282742556>can even get over an obvious lighthearted insultAs expected from anti AI faggot
>>282732186At least watch the original thing you try to replicate, you dumb zoomer.
>>282742552I'm not feigning anything. You said and I quote>What art style? I'm(for some reason you didn't use a capital I but I fixed that for you) copying.Also I fixed up your grammar.What art style? I am copying. That is what you said. Learn to speak English or no one will understand what you're saying.
>>282742524why don't YOU wait until it is good to make these dogshit threads, then?>>282742546>>282742578184th time that phrase has been used in the history of the entire sitei should ask about you in raildex threads, i'm sure they'll have something to say about such an insufferable troon>>282742556don't mind it, it gets sensitive about people calling out its samefagging
>>282742554>>282742514AI retards don't have an internal dialogue. Please understand.
>>282737397Into the eternal VR masterbation pod you go
>>282742592>he thinks only one guy use that phraseOk,tranny. Go ask them for me and fuck off
>>282732186Can someone generate this but with Moon getting ryona'd?
Use AI as a tool. Dont use AI as shortcut to create content (this is where you get a -SLOP) There are good AI and there are bad AI, its that simple.
In 5 years, while you fags are seething about AI taking your animation sweatshop jobs away, I'll be telling chatGPT to spawn Haruhi season 3 into existence. With new fantasy sequences where Mikuru rapes Haruhi every time she's bullied.
Yep yep, AIgold won.
I wish /a/ becomes ruthless again
>>282732186Soulless>>282742582Soul
AI is only good to create fanfic
>>282742637...the getting mocked by everyone(even a fucking tripfag) medal
>>282742627Tbh would that even feel good? You will have no one to discuss it with since everyone can generate his or her own slop. Also it would have no direction.
>>282742582Can AI do this?
>>282742536So you admit to being a troon. At least you are honest
>>282742683>soulful animation with clear intent, direction and a beautiful color palette Nope. It can't do it.
>>282742625Don't use AI as a toolWhat are you gonna do with it that turns out well in the long run? Nothing. Not for art anyways.
>>282742627>I'll be telling chatGPT to spawn Haruhi season 3 into existenceThis is literally everything Haruhi stands against though.
>>282742683>still images with green lines moving across themYawwwwn. AI could do that in its sleep.
>>282742660"Good" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here, only slightly helped by the fact that fanfiction is largely trash anyways
>>282742582The AI sisters won't like this...
>>282742745You are definitely not an artist
>>282734848They're also Furfags and Sonic Autists.Their opinions are worthless!!!!
>>282742614>>>he thinks only one guy use that phrasewrong, since that implies that i think you are human>>282742690only a sub-80 IQ subhuman retard would arrive to that conclusion after reading my post
>>282732186I'm just waiting for AI subbing to make a breakout and become industry standard.Lolcowlizers don't deserve to be paid and nobody will care when they are gone unlike actual artists, musician, etc..
>>282742683It can't, AI can only poorly copy using thousands of images making completely non-creative images that always look uncanny, AI will never spawn something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar4WzQ7KHak because it lacks creativity and can't understand concepts and that was a video made by 1 guy 18 years ago, the guy spamming these threads is a paid shill and there are a lot like him everywhere because AI stocks are going down as investors see how it's not really something that useful.
>>282742723Well you dont use AI. Is that simple.I been jerking off to AI porn more than Actual porn nowadays. Because my dick cant lie, especially animated ones.
>>282742745>AI could do that in its sleep.Post it then
>>282740841>AI is in its infancy AI is a mature technology and is now actively pivoting towards making advertisement their central revenue stream.It is clear that the current iteration has no future.
>>282742781Not an argument troon
>>282742784>I'm just waiting for AI subbing to make a breakout and become industry standard.I am pretty sure a lot of localizers already use ai.>>282742745Your trolling won't work.
>>282742768you do not need to be an artist to appreciate art, you just need to be humanand at this point i think it is pretty clear that we are dealing with something that's far from that
>>282732186There is nothing decent about this.Raming two characters into each other is level 0 of animation.
>>282742810indeed, your brain lacks the capacity to process and/or formulate even simple argumentsno wonder you'll soon join your fellow 41 percenters
>OP started shitting on Sakura not knowing how fantastic the animation of the show isFucking lmao. Last time he shitted on Eva and I think at some point even on Flcl and every time he gets btfoed. He hates anime and only likes his garbage slop.
>>282736024You know Scribes used to bitch about the printing press for the exact same reasons.At the end of the day people stopped hand writing books, the printing press didn't die out and no one cried over the Scribes who had their work stolen.
>>282742492>when in reality they made everything cheaper and are only used to cut costs.To be fair to CGI, it is a very powerful tool and it can be used to achieve stunning hand-drawn animation, like in Disney's Treasure Planet. The issue is that using CGI in such a fashion is very difficult and more expensive than traditional animation.It can also be used to bring the cost down on complicated sequences in a traditionals style by rotoscoping CG animation, but it's not really done much. Again, because it's very challenging.
>>282732615Personally I'm just mad no one is biting my offers to do ai animation projects. I can tell everyone in the entire industry is using this technology wrong. However just because it's being used to shit out slop like ops doesn't mean that it cant be done correctly. We could do our own animation projects. Actual /a/nime. But nobody cares. Everyone is too lazy. Even for paid work.>>282734165Too many jeets well poisoning the technology so bad goys don't use it
>>282742843yep as you can see here >>282737942>>282739990
>>282742071Chud here, I hate AI and I don't know any chud that loves AI, I think that Leftards and Chuds are united on their hate agains AI shit.
>>282742071>ChudI like AI because its an opportunity to bring to life my own animation without needing to be a Jewish oligarch levels of rich. Of course getting someone i do pay to draw the key frames is another matter and so far 0. 0 people want to be paid money to do art.
>>282742843I swear OP is secretly anti AI because he uses such an awful model to make his stuff with.Anyway have a Seadragon Slug Girl for all of your troubles.
>>282742816If anything they use it like a dictionary. They still try to "fix" the script afterwards.
>>282742889>>282742893Duality of chuddies.
>>282742816I like the direction of this thread going
>>282742889Chud here, some chuds like ai as a way to dunk on leftard artists, it's retarded
>>282742849cool, the you surely can get a model to generate something that's better than, for example, >>282742582 or >>282742816the way i understand, you can set the first frame for video gens, so, for the sake of objective, just comparisons, take the first frame from either video and prove the rest of us wrong
>>282742554>>282742602This kind of mental retardation is why I have a very low opinion of antis even if most pro ai shills are subhuman jeets. You completely missed the point of anons post.
>>282742858I know that it's possible to do good cgi animation. I like Pale Cocoon and of course I enjoyed some of the pixars movies back in the day but it still doesn't change the fact that at a low level both ai and cgi would be used just for cost cutting.
>>282742839>no uYawn
>>282742787The issue is an I've said it for a while. They don't prompt right. A lot of the slop comes from people not taking the time to fine tune or over fine tune their prompts instead of giving the AI some runway.I think people need to be more conceptual and less literal in their generations.
>>282742975>no uyawn
>>282742592>why don't YOU wait until it is good to make these dogshit threads, then?These threads get made precisely because someone noticed how much they piss off tourists like you lol
>>282739635I talk with my friends when I play games on my pc I don't need a shitty AI, shower yourself jeet and maybe you will be able to have some friends too.
>>282742933Dunk? I don't give a shit because I don't hold a grudge for business. If you can draw what I want and will do so for money I will hire you. Unfortunately I've spent 3 years searching for anyone who is available for commissions and can draw what I need. So far I have gotten only one bite and they declined in the end without a single comment. Artists just don't want to work.
>>282742965>imagine a scenario that NO ONE THAT PLAYS GAMES would want>why are you insulting me, you didn't understand the pointNo, we understood the point, the point is simply retarded and something no one would ever want. But I'll humor you for ONE post, what was your point?
>>282743001>touristNewfag spotted.
>>282742982This is why i barely post my AI until i 100% satisfied with it
>>282742965what was the point, exactly?the original post in that reply chain was about the voice acting industry and how AI might affect it, how is a retard being excited about using AI to pretend that he has friends related in the slightest?
>>282742965His point is retarded though. An ai could be good to translate the text and then use an overlay on top of the text instead of fucking "reading it out" and also why add the chatting part?
>>282742819I am well aware of thatIt just seemed exceedingly obvious that he has never in his life contemplated art beyond "woah pictures"
>>282743039>until i 100% satisfied with it>until i 100%>until iRanjeet... And you are satisfied with that shit?
>>282743022>Hurr I'm gonna assert even more esl bullshitI'm done here. Your conversation skills are bad. >>282742982Correct. Most anti ai comes from controlled divide and conquer propping up the dichotomy between anti ai artist struggle hustlers and a gorillian H1B jeets. Neither of these are the correct way to use AI and that's because the big businesses and government don't want you to use it at all. Prompting via text is the wrong way to go about anything unless you are at the brain storming stage or translating. Actual animation work begins with a real artist doing director work. Ai can't direct. Keyframes and storyboards are where you start. That means a real human getting paid money. Ai starts becoming useful after that point.
>>282742582This and based.
>>282743038You're never going to fit in as long as you keep samefagging and shouting troon as if this is /pol/, and getting mad at silly threads about AI
>>282742961You're arguing with the wrong person. I don't do video gens very often and am not OP.I just don't really care about the plight of artist either on this matter. Especially when I vividly remember the digital vs traditional drawing debates of the 2000s and how Digital Drawings were the low effort slop of that time.
Remember, Japan's birthrate is declining with no sign of it ever recovering, so in half a century or so, the country won't have enough people left to continue existing as a sovereign nation, let alone churn out new anime on a regular basis.AI is the only thing that can properly preserve Japan's legacy of anime as previous westoid productions inspired by it, i.e., Avatar: The Last Airbender or Teen Titans, often failed to reproduce the distinct look and feel that anime has because Japanese studios follow different production standards than western studios.Outside of mistakes in terms of anatomy and continuity, AI is already able to reproduce that distinct anime look and feel better than any human animator in the west, and even then it's only a matter of time before those flaws get patched out.
>>282743086>Ai can't directNot any of this anons but at least you recognize this simple fact that almost all ai shills miss.
>>282743052Thank you for consneeding. He said it pretty clearly, you can use AI to read your screen and therefore voice act a game without voice acting. The ai is speaking with you, not you with it.
1000 replies incoming
>>282742849The printing press doesn't make decisions for you about what you write What you give up by printing is the handwritten quality, which, while definitely a sort of art in its own right, is not at all comparable to this brainless slop that strives to take as much agency as possible from the creator until there is no creator anymore.
I love how most of /a/ comes to these threads to shit on the OP and AI garbage, there's still some hope left on this board
>>282732186The voice acting feels more like a voice over for a promotional video rather than one of the characters speaking.
>>282743111>Especially when I vividly remember the digital vs traditional drawing debates of the 2000s and how Digital Drawings were the low effort slop of that time.the most anti-digital fag on /a/, otaking, makes digital animation on his channel.
>>282743086>AI jeet calling anyone else ESLYeah, of course the jeet can't explain his point because his point was fucking retarded. You want someone to chat with you while you game then start a twitch channel.
>>282743121yes, obviously, you can already use fucking microsoft sam for that (as long as the devs implemented it)but as shit as modern VAs are, i'd rather not replace them with microsoft sam
>>282743118Well regardless here's another truthnuke. Animation companies WILL use AI. And struggling to keep them from doing so when you could be making a competing animation and riding to the top on merit is retarded. They won't pass on their savings to their bottom line. Only shareholders and the c suite will pocket the difference. Ai will do the most good in the hands of the people. Youd think a bunch of dyed in the wool commie leaning retards would be thrilled to have a means of production but instead it's the chuds who want to make their own animation studios.
>>282743140Not really. In those threads the ai slopper would keep replying to himself but it seems he has left or else the CCS webms would have 10+ seething replies. This will have 600 replies most likely
>>282743117Just say that you hate anime newnigger pajeet
>>282743161Your call. I've been reading books with tts for ages now using modern pre ai voices. Ai ones are even better.
>>282743117>Japan's birthrate is declining with no sign of it ever recovering, so in half a century or so, the country won't have enough people left to continue existing as a sovereign nationBrown or Jewish?
ban India
>>282743118The person prompting is the producer. I'll never claim I am some creative making high art. I am funding the creation of the thing I want made.
>>282743063Bit off from the original artist artstyle (who is dead anyway, F) But im pretty much satisfied.
>>282743148Sailor moon's voice is too deep
>>282743117Is this seriously the kind of reasoning you've stooped to? Preservation of their legacy, a rich history of passionate artists and story telling, should be done by random number generators and probability calculations rather than actual human beings?
>>282743177>And struggling to keep them from doing so when you could be making a competing animation and riding to the top on merit is retarded.I've already posted here >>282742338 but there are already plenty of indie japanese animations and they are not really doing it for a profit but rather out of passion so they don't really need ai. >it's the chuds who want to make their own animation studios.But that wouldn't really be /a/, would it? Those "chuds" are from the west so their animation would be /co/ related.
>>282743206>I am funding the creation of the thing I want made.How are you funding it?
>>282743196i'd rather pirate audiobooks, desuat least for now
>>282743190>>282743198Actually, I'm an American-born mix of Caucasian, Asian and Northern African.
>>282743270
>>282743142Hold up have you ever seen preprinting press writings. They're entire works of art. The printing press is where we get the simplified blocky lettering from. Being a scribe was an entire business that was annihilated by the printing press.Hell Americans were still taught Cursive because we were handwriting letters until the 2000s which was finally phased out by email.
>>282743234To be fair my project is more mlp related, but I would argue that if you keep this line then if katawa shoujo had an anime it would have to be deleted from /a/ and moved to /co/. I think that anime from the west should qualify as /a/ as long as it passes the duck test, which most even liked stuff like totally spies doesn't. I'd argue though that katawa shoujo does pass this test. Stuff like walfas memes are also not removed from /a/ for the same reason even if they're just Ms paint scribbles.
>>282742816>>282742582>>282742919Thread saved. AI can't compete.
If Moot was still here he would've made a board for all the AI subhumans already to stay contained like /mlp/, is Hiromoot even doing anything at all on 4chan? He didn't even bother updating the code of the website for 10 years and that's why a random retard from the Sharty hacked the site.
>>282743265A lot of my best recommended wns and fics don't have audio books to pirate. They are passion works that Jews have made it illegal to monetize.
Adapt you niggersUse AI to train your own artstyleUse Inpaint instead of using full AI generation
>>282743219The only thing that matters to me is whether the end result manages to replicate the look and feel of anime. Whether it's done by a human or a machine is irrelevant.
>>282743315Human animators don't even animated like that. That was 30 years ago there hasn't been a hand drawn anime for decades now.I love AI and if anything you're making me more depressed at what we lost because of digital animation.
>>282743309>n if katawa shoujo had an animeIf it was done by a mostly japanese staff sure, Heidi is an anime after all. Otherwise not really. >as /a/ as long as it passes the duck testWhich is? I could count on 2 hands the somewhat /co/ properties discussed on /a/(they are just co-productions between japan and another country) and ai generated stuff doesn't fit the criteria at all.
>>282743303As an ai proponents I will add to my detriment in that like AI the first time benefiters from the printing press where religious oligarchs using it to print spiritual nfts called indulgences. Printing press is a great example of a closed industry being almost anhilated. However passion project and special edition books are still a thing.
>>282743318If Moot was here he'd have made a sticking making fun of anti AI people playing the Jeffrey Bezos song or something stupid like that on repeat.https://youtu.be/R8iaViNIy3U?si=fGWbgsm0sRPGUdcp
>>282743318I'm sure he treats this site as effortless passive income at this point while everything is managed by a few selected trannies in the mod team.
>>282743407You don't know shit about Moot pajeet.
>>282743384>Which isHi eslIf it quacks like a duckLooks like a duckAnd acts like a duck Then it's a duckIf an anime is the same thing. If the writing and art direction and merit are all uniquely Japanese or at least eastern the. I would argue it belongs on /a/. If you want to split this hair as fine as you have then you should be reporting every draw thread on /a/ since all of it would belong on /co/ or at least /i/
>>282743371>there hasn't been a hand drawn anime for decades now.You are retarded. There have been hand drawn animation like redline, anime with hand painted backgrounds like flip Flapers, anime done completely traditional without even using layouts like they did back in 1920 before even cel animation like Wonder (Movie)(finished in 2014), but just check Mirai Mizue's works in general. Hell someone posted a cel short made in 2025 in this very thread.
>>282743392Actually, IIRC, the majority of works Guttenberg was commissioned to print were erotic novels.
>>282743409Are you brain damaged pajeet? Moot got 15 million from the NSA to sell this shit hole to them after dogging him for 10 years.
>>282743420Oh you sweet summer newfag.I know exactly the kindness shit MOOT would do.lurkmoar b4 poasting faggot
>>282743455first does not mean most.
>>282743420>pajeet.Election tourist from /pol/ lol
AI broke you
>>28274281690s moe is so soulful
>>282743425>I would argue it belongs on /a/.I don't think that's relevant or else literally every /co/ indie animation that mimics anime would be discussed on /a/ but that doesn't happen. An ai generated anime with a western "writer" would be /co/.
>>282743514CCS isn't moeIt's actual romance plus adventure
>>282743371>don't even animatedESLbro...
>>282743443Woah such novelties! Woah! Now show me the recent 70 episode hand drawn anime like Card Captor Sakura, or 112 episode anime like Yuyu Hakusho, or 49 episode hand drawn anime like G Gundam.It's a novelty now. Quit cherry picking anime from a bygone era to prove AI bad when studios don't even use that style of animation.
>>282743460Meds schizo
>>282743520>Every indie /co / that mimicks animeLike what? Are any as good as katawa? If so they belong here IMHO. Otoh you want to suck off the current (((mods))) paid by our tax dollars and the patriot act to police what anime is or isn't. They let crap like that brown woke and shoddy looking Netflix cartoon occupy /a/ for a season just because a professional published it. Personally I don't think that crap belonged on the board and I honestly can't even remember it's name just it's horrible Tumblr esque art style
>>282743550Worse I'm American and Anglo. It's my first language.
Just let this thread dieDeny it the attention it's begging for
>>282732186Sovful
>>282743564>Woah such novelties!You said that there haven't been any hand drawn anime, stop trying to change the subject you retarded subhumans. Also there still are anime that hand drawn and digitally colored.
>>282742969Of course, it's mostly cost cutting, but if you are willing to spend a similar amount of money, you can do things that would otherwise bankrupt you.AI, not so much. It's not really an enabling technology.
>>282739250Kill yourself retard.
>>282743597Frog and a video game screenshot, maximum tourism
>>282743576>Like what? Are any as good as katawa?That one made by speedy and it's not that good. >They let crap like that brown woke and shoddy looking Netflix cartoon occupy /a/ for a season just because a professional published it.Which one, Lazarus?
>>282743425>If it quacks like a duck>Looks like a duck>And acts like a duck>Then it's a duckWrong. It's Tanya!
>>282740814But we are talking about creating an animated show, not an endavour that can be completed by one person.
>>282743576>They let crap like that brown woke and shoddy looking Netflix cartoon occupy /a/ for a season just because a professional published it. Personally I don't think that crap belonged on the board and I honestly can't even remember it's name just it's horrible Tumblr esque art styleElection tourist seething
>>282743564>prove AI bad when studios don't even use that style of animation.Then why do you slop those anime if you respect them so much? Even for digital era stuff, any of the kyoani early works and shaft early works are better than that shit.
>>282741565>t-the bubble will collapse any moment now!
>>282743463>imgur filename from a reddit postAI bros...
>>282743597>reddit frog>pajeetYou have to go back
>>282743371>>282743564How do you live got released just a few years ago little bro
>>282743636Tanya is in fact a duck. if only her anime was good. Being x is so boooring>>282743625I've been here longer than you've been in school. Unfortunately I am phone bugging and don't have another haymakerjak snowclone to post.>>282743634It doesn't sound like you think it quacks like a duck to me desu.>LazarusNo it was some magical girl native isekai looking slop.
>>282743536The artstyle is moe, it's meant to look cute and it does look cute, but it's not garishly cute like many moe series that came after it.
>>282734063>he thinks kekney won't just be using AI themselves
>>282743693>PhonebuggingJew droid won't even let me self own by calling myself a phonenigger.
>>282743693>It doesn't sound like you think it quacks like a duck to me desu.I don't think any of the ai slop quacks like a duck either. >No it was some magical girl native isekai looking slop.you mean that shit made by crunchyroll? With the pink hair girl? Then I agree.
>>282732186This looks like pure garbage slop.>>282743315Thank you for the palette cleanser
>>282743625>shitting on StelleTake a break already newfag you are embarrasing yourself.
>>282743564>>282743604>that hand drawn*that are hand drawn. Anyways, I think you got my point. You can easily find hand drawn anime, both indie and non-indie. I am pretty sure Kyoto Animation still draws a lot of their stuff on paper, you can even buy their genga online.
>>282743713>I don't think any ai slop quacks like a duckOf course it doesnt. That's why I want to be one of the first to do it. Prompting with fmv style ai like op is the dream of corporate suits looking for the pump that lets them drop 80% of their employees. Real ai use cases will find work doing soul crushing tweens which can life the possibility for very small teams to produce content. All output will need to be edited frame by frame still. I can tell no one has done it this way because they are too lazy or cheap. Yet thanks to antis screeching no artist wants to be paid money to draw my characters in a storyboard.
>>282743745To be fair there is a frognigger in my post desu
>>282743792No they don't also digital art is still hand drawn I don't know what are you retards talking about but to me it looks like 2 cavemen discussing about the last Iphone.
>>282743841Well that retard claimed that there is no hand drawn animation anymore, which is false. The coloring is almost always done digitally but there are hand drawn anime. > digital art is still hand drawnyep, he doesn't seem to get that. >No they don'tAre you talking about Kyoani?
>>282741204Nah, it fails at capturing the atmosphere of DN
>>282743896Yeah, if we are talking about their anime has been 100% digital for a long time, I think VEG is their last anime that had some art in paper.
>>282743950>for a long time,Even if it applies to only their early projects it still contradicts that retard.>I think VEG is their last anime that had some art in paper.That's the one I had in mind.
>>282743745Go back to /v/, tourist
>>282744020Rim my ass newfag, yet again you insist on showing everyone how new you are.
>>282743926It can't be cause sora doesn't let you direct in any way so short clips are used to remove elements the editor didn't want from the gen. This kind of animation is still using the ai to do all the directing and composition and timing so it's worthless for anything but bouncy content is shit posts.
>>282743799Ok, whatever. Unless you are a retarded spammer that hates anime, like the op, I don't really have that much against you.
>>282743483But it does decide whether it becomes mainstream or not. In fact, it's been argued that many technologies often didn't catch on until after people figured out they could use it for prurient interests. To name a few past examples of such technology:Photography and motion pictures: Used to make nudie pictures and films shortly after it was invented.Home Video: Used by couples to make sex tapes.The Internet: Only caught on after porn sites started popping up.
>>282744077https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1758933606145458.webmThread theme
AI is good for porn and porn only, low quality porn at that, and if I have to pay even one cent to use AI or get something that was made with it im not interested
>>282744206It's because it's used for poen that it will become mainstream. See >>282744113
>>282743371genuinely how do you function?
>>282743371>>282743564anon just because its digital animation doesnt mean the computer magically draws the thing for you, animators draw the frames on tablets with their hands, they just dont do it on cels anymore, not that you seem to have the slightest idea of how 2d anime is produced
>>282741120Why is it always struggling so much to make things stable and not wobble/morph every other frame? I can understand for moving elements but it's doing this shit for static backgrounds too. Like just generate one picture and freeze it, how hard can that be
All my cool pictures are porn am get b& if i argue.
>>282741120>6 fingers in the first 3 secondsRumao
