What do they eat?
>>282789991fish
>>282789991How is this justified in-universe? Not even current humans can build shit like this.
>>282790005slavery
>>282790005>ummm what's their tax policyShut up faggot it's a cool fantasy city
>>282790005>Not even current humans can build shit like this.it's actually fairly easy to build and people have been building this sort of thing for literal hundreds of years.There just usually isn't a good reason to build this nonsense.
>>282789991>water flowing downWho builds a giant fountain? What's powering the pumps to move the water up?
>>282790018No, they're don't. Look at these proportions. It requires reinforced concrete and piles and who knows what else.
>>282790052Magic
>>282790018I know you were going to post Venice but it doesn't compare to OP's picture, like at all.
Imagine if the average Tolkienautist played a video game. They'd probably convulse and have a stroke on the spot.
>>282790005It would be ridiclously easy to build this, the issue is more about the costs.Also aslkign what do they eat when there a bridge there to the mainland is stupid. Oh what do the people at the Palm islands eat. Fish?>>282790010No taxes just like Dubai
>>282790057You can build that using brick, mortar and earth.Land reclamation was known and done for a very very long time. You reclaim the land, pile up soil and fortify it with brick and mortar. it's the way the Chinese wall was built, jut do that on reclaimed land.
>>282790005People have built artifical islands. Building the entire thing 30 stories high is pointless so they wouldn't do it. This is that far from those retarded islands they kept building in dubai
>>282790071And this shitty picture does it no justice of the scale here a video.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7Zyzw0clvCk
they are feasting on they/them pussy
>>282790073>You can build that using brick, mortar and earthNo, you can't, you idiot. Learn strength of materials
Which anime is this from?
>>282789991what happens when there is a storm?>inb4 they use magic to make the weather always nicealso how do they get rid of their sewage?>inb4 they dump it underneath themwouldn't it build up over time and contaminate the water?
>>282789995it's a lake so fish from it wouldn't be sufficient to feed the city
>>282790005building things like that has always been a bureaucracy problem, not a logistics one.
>>282790073>way the Chinese wall was builtIt's not that big. You can't see her from space, I'm sorry. The Chinese wall is just a loose packed clay in some places lined with stone.
>>282789991How easy it's to apply racial segregation in a city like this
>>282790005Tell me you never left your town and visited some of the world cities without telling me.Tokyo bay makes this shit looks like an amateur project.Odaiba, Ariake, Shin-Kiba, Tatsumi, Toyosu, Wakasu, Yumenoshima, Aomi, TsukishimaAnd thats just Tokyo these continue both Eastwards to Chiba and Southwards to Yokohama.Then you have Osaka and Nagoya too. Japan builds these basically every few years. Every single city that isn't in an open sea but has a bay has one from Kagoshima in the south all the way to Muroran in the North.And the scale of these is gigantic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqmBkFkH1qYIf you start at Uminomori Park you're looking at a two and a half hour walk to Tsukishima all across artificial islands.
>>282789991What makes no sense is why there’s a freaking artificial waterfall in the middle. Are they seriously moving millions of gallons of seawater just to run some decorative fountain?
>>282790222What do they eat?
>>282789991The people living in the center can't skip leg day, huh
>>282790222>h562yu7ilqfc1.jpeg_85.jpgI don't see these cities standing on foundations rising 150 fucking meters above sea level.
>>282790222And the ambitions they had were even crazier.
>>282790241pretty cool setup for a pump + filtration system to recycle fresh water throughout the whole city.Makes me want an isekai that's about an engineering student getting transported to save a city from bad planning
>>282790147Google says "a wild last boss appeared" i have no idea what this is. It looks like a knock off of water 7
The Daiba forts. Now at the back of it all.
>>282790260Monja https://animetourism88.com/en/places/otaku-elf/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shTtwi0dYggPlease do visit Monkichi
>>282790005Like they do with megalithic anomalies in our worldSlavery and uhh...they be good at math (magic)
>>282790052slavery
>>282790193>>282790005There is a lot of shit we could build now where not even money is really the obstruction but political will is.>high speed rail>more airfields>more ports>subways>housing, from apartment complexes to detached single family>semiconductor factories, or factories in general>nuclear power plants>desalination plants>launch pads for rocketsetc.Isekai kings using magic and slave labour to make a retarded city on stilts is not that impressive.
>>282790289This looks like some metabalist shit, Kishi Kurokawa vibes
>>282790296The realist one had city planning for the first part before the faggots started infighting then now semi back to decent city building stuff to prep for next war.
>>282791229This project is the reason why all these anime and movies have a "Neo Tokyo" or similar built in the bay.
>>282790369I want to engage in coitus with Koito! (And her VA, too)
>>282789991Bitch the dirty Punics made pic related at Carthage, a damn parking garage for their ships over 2000 years ago.Since then we have developed techniques for building massive structures and towing them out to sea. They are called Gravity-based Structures. See: https://youtu.be/x0DuSBb2PUw?si=zrVZR3GfGJ6B6COQIt's completely feasible to build.
>>282791229>This looks like some metabalist shit, Kishi Kurokawa vibesIt is one of the metabolists, yes.They whole "Tokyo Bay Project" idea came from that movement.
>>282790005Nothing in the OP picture is impossible, merely impractical.
>>282790005same kind of retard who thinks we couldnt build pyramids now
>>282790222jesus you go there in person and you forget just how small Odaiba really is.
>>282789991I love all fantasy cities shaped like a circle.
>>282794975one of the greatest things ever ruined by e*ropeans
>>282790005>Not even current humans can build shit like this.This dude believes in ancient aliens
>>282795175Stop committing human sacrifice.
>>282795255No, I won't
>>282790222Based, OP BTFO
>>282795175>Wow... they had le city... on le water? Quick, sacrifice 2532532 children!t. Gustavo Hernandez Schröder (1% atzec blood, 20% jewish, 79% european - catholic religion)
>>282790296>>282790241Isn't the water in that city fucking alive? It's a fucking magic golem made by an elf king from a myth age So the water is likely moving by itself
>>282790071>>282790222>>282792680Are you three people blind? >hurr we've built those alreadyCan't you see the raised platforms are 500m above the sea surface??
>>282790281>>282795838Are you both retarded? Yes, the real world examples don't rise up as high. Not because it's impossible, but because it's unnecessary. It's pretty easily doable
>>282795946I wouldn't say easily but yeah, it's doableJust unnecessary because if you've got a city on water it's already hard to siege and it's much easier to mantain and live in without huge walls>>282795838Sure, fantasy exaggerates real lifeThat's not THAT immersion breaking
>>282795175A malarial pesthole
>>282791195>housing, from apartment complexes to detached single familyAnd Blackrock will just buy it all up again, putting you back at square one again.
>>282795175yeah, it's really lame what happened to americas>>282795255you don't care about those
>>282796448Hate to tell you this buddy, but they work hard to prevent more supply because its easier (less expensive) for them to lobby to stop that than it is to buy it up. Despite their wishes, they don't have unlimited power and money either.
>>282796448Not only Blackrock owns a very negligible amount of homes and is not even remotely the cause of the issue, but if you just build enough it stops being a problem. The issue is that regulation makes building stuff very prohibitive, so its just not worth to do it>Blackrock will buy anything!Then start building, because apparently you found an infinite money glitch by scamming corporations into buying well above market price
>>282796723>buildingon what land, anon?most people are already priced out of buying land
>>282790005
>>282796840>Dallas can afford to issue 40,563 permits>San Fransisco/ Bay Area can only issue 9,100 for some reason in the same year>housing is 4x more expensive in the Bay Area than DFWReal headscratcher. Must be the lack of land, something both states are famously short on.
>>282796840>priced outIrrelevant, if you are 100% sure blackrock will buy it, you can take a loan and it will be the safest investment everAs it so happens, that's not what's going on in the housing market. No, blackrock is not buying everything nor are they artificially raising the price. It's just impossible to build precisely in the places where the population is growingMore demand + not enough supply = prices skyrocket.
>>282797019>you can take a loanyou can't get a loan, anon
>>282797019>blackrockI think the issue is that you are confused. Blackrock is the one that diversifies fund by buying stock in companies, Blackstone is the real estate one, although they both do both.
>>282789991hydroponic potatoes
>>282797150Same shit, it's a grossly overestimated issueALL real estate corporations combined don't reach 4%It's just a scapegoat to not admit years and years of regulation on land and construction have piled up into a disastrous marketIn europe the same thing is happening to house and rent, with even less corporate owned stuff.
>>282797340Why do you believe it to be useful to look at the entire US single family home rental market, it obviously is nonsensical to do so, as real estate is non-fungible.
>>282797483Out of 100 hourses sold, only 17 are purchased by corporationsAnd that is an inflated number, because of the market price of housing they are increasinly the only one who can afford itLiterally license more spaces to build and this issue is solvedIt's that fucking easy, texas did it.That or deport 50 million peopleBoth work, the first method is the faster and cheaper solution
>>282797657Anon, you are not equipped with the required understanding to have this conversation, because you do not understand the specific way in which real estate is different from every other market.But also, 17% is a much bigger number than 4%, isn't it?
>>282790005it was built by one of the giga nigga heroes from the past, an lvl 1000 elf. The water around the city is a golem and protects one of the last cities of humanity
>>282797711>17% is a much bigger number than 4%Yes, it's only looking at homes being sold every year right now>Anon, you are not equipped with the required understanding to have this conversation, because you do not understand the specific way in which real estate is different from every other market.You are free to make an actual argument, or empirical evidence, whenever you wantThis isn't it.
>>282795175We could fix it right now by nuking Mexico, and letting nature take it back.
>>282797808Okay, so you already realize the problem with you just pointing numbers for the whole of the US and going "huh it's not so bad, is it?", because you are aware that certain regions do not experience these problems in the same way.This should clue you in that real estate is a market that is extremely dependent on one thing, location and as you correctly identified there is no means or political will to construct more housing in certain specific locations with high demand and the housing that is being built is often a specific, highly profitable sort, rather than what is needed.This means that if you know where there is high regulatory burden to building housing, you can buy up all the houses and make insane amounts of money, even though you are not buying a lot of houses across the entirety of the United States. It is very much a regional problem, but this regional problem causes upwards pricing pressure in the surrounding regions.The housing market is extremely complex, because it does not reduce to pretty little national metrics, the way fungible markets do.
>>282798149>This means that if you know where there is high regulatory burden to building housingI'm going to stop you right here and ask you to reread my posts.Yes, this is the issue.Some places had the will to fix it (Austin, Dallas)Other places want to stack more regulations on top of the regulations and make it worse long term (soon to be New York)In europe it's even worse>certain regions do not experience these problems in the same wayObviously, and this does not make the housing market "different from any other market", it may be more pronounced in housing but its hardly unique to it.
>>282789991
>>282789991Fish
>>282798288I will ask you if you are retarded, because it's clear that you don't understand the problem with investment funds buying up housing.Of course, they are not going to be buying a representative sample of properties across the entire United States, that would obviously be retarded, but the way you have been talking about it and the metrics you have presented in your posts have suggested such a behavior. Similarly you are (wrongfully) assuming that the decreasing prices impact the proceeds of these investment funds.Furthermore you are asserting that decreasing housing costs in Austin and Dallas and the associated regulatory efforts are a result of political will, rather than means. You should look at a map of Texas and you'll realize that you can just build shit. There's a lot of space, where you can just build shit, which makes it easy for regulators to open up areas for development. Now, considering your example, New York City, where do you expect people to build? Look at some European capitals, where do you expect people to build? Every city is unique, especially so in terms of the housing market.This is why people are paid a lot of money to run these kinds of real estate funds, because it's challenging to identify opportunities that aren't already priced in.And this is why these 4% or 17% are not scatted randomly across the US, but concentrated in specific areas with high amounts of potential upwards pricing pressure.There would be no issue with funds buying a statistically representative sample of houses across the US, but this is not what is happening.>this does not make the housing market "different from any other market"Name another investment market with this degree of regionality and try not to name one that is also real estate, but with a slightly method for how the property is paid for.
>>282798377could not for the life of me figure out what any sector of this city is supposed to represent. Are the green strips on the right meant to be an airport?
>>282798615Just upzone? Bro? Bay Area has a density of 430/km^2. Tokyo Metropolitan Area has 2,642/km^2 (and their housing is STILL cheaper). You're crazy if you think they can't build their way out of this in every city in the world, even if you can't MEGASPRAWL like they can in Texas.
>>282790018That isn't nearly as extensive as OP's picture.
>>282798804I think it is a very big mistake to compare the SF Bay Area to the Greater Tokyo Metropolitan Area, because these two places are very, very different.
>>282798615>Look at some European capitals, where do you expect people to build?Around it, or tallerDo you know many european cities regulate how tall buildings can be and that's why you can't build shit? No, you probably did notIf you want the historical center city experience, you pay for itThe price will however get lower by simply buidling around it or taller in the periphery>Hurr durr retardYeah, too bad everything you said has been refuted historically by literally doing what I said to doTry removing regulation and handing building licenses and see NY prices freeze on their own>Name another investment market with this degree>this degreeProving yet again you can't read what I sayAnd we didn't even get into inflation!Did you know gold can mostly buy the same in terms of housing as it could 100 years ago? That's rightThe price of housing did not ACTUALLY skyrocket that much, it skyrocketed in comparison to the paper the government keeps printing without shame to fund overspending.It turns out everywhere you look this problem is artificially created by politicians
>>282798963>SF = 18,040 km^2, TMA = 13,452 km^2>similar latitudes and climate>rich, developed nations>(among the) richest areas in their nations>coastal cities on the pacific>both have similar earthquake riskYeah? You think this isn't apples to apples? You think they can't do the same things in the same kind of area in the same amount of space (actually Bay Area is bigger)?You're crazy as fuck man. You think that the poorer nation of Japan has some magic dirt that lets them start 291,316 units in the TMA in 2024 compared to the ~ 19,700 units produced in total in 2024 across the Bay Area?Fuck outta here man.
>>282799175>You think this isn't apples to apples?No, because one is in the US and the other one is in Japan. Which are two countries with very different housing markets.
>/a/ - real estate and economics discussions
>>282799021>Around it, or tallerWhich is exactly what they're doing.You must be very happy that the people of Europe have partaken of your wisdon, because that is precisely how new developments are handled.>Do you know many european cities regulate how tall buildings can be and that's why you can't build shit? Do you know that while tall building are relatively appealing to developers, they are generally problematic in terms of urban planning, the density conferred by them often causes great burdens on the pre-existing infrastructure, such as roads, public transportation and the line.>If you want the historical center city experience, you pay for itThat sure is how it works, but you'd be surprised by the relatively low cost of historic housing, due to the general age of these buildings and the issues with them. While expensive due to the central location, they are not excessively priced, because often the individual units are lacking. Of course this means there are opportunities here, which are being taken.>Yeah, too bad everything you said has been refuted historically by literally doing what I said to doYou mean building housing, the way people are doing in Europe?>No, you probably did notOf course, I did. How could I not know that?>Proving yet again you can't read what I sayAnd you are proving that you can't fulfill a simple request. Why not name the markets that are so dependent on location?>Did you know gold can mostly buy the same in terms of housing as it could 100 years ago?This is largely due to the fact that Gold is massively overvalued, you are aware of this, right?>the paper the government keeps printing without shame to fund overspendingSo what is the alternative? The government spends no money?How do you feel about roads (not that the US is spending a lot of those in the past 50 years or so), anon?
>>282799409>You must be very happy that the people of Europe have partaken of your wisdon, because that is precisely how new developments are handled.>You mean building housing, the way people are doing in Europe?WrongEurope today builds much less housing than it used to Spain is an hilarious example of this, where for an entire decade they didn't build even half of what they used to pre 2008, while the population was growing wildly and toursim was growing too. Fast forward to today and there's an housing crisis, and only last year they started pumping up the numbers again (still not enough)Only recently they have started tackling this issue.>So what is the alternative? The government spends no money?Ideally, but spending *less* money would already be a victory in this regard>How do you feel about roads (not that the US is spending a lot of those in the past 50 years or so), anon?Infrastructure does not constitute even a fraction of what governments spend their money onIt's literally the most non issue to ever non issue, look at what any western government spends their money in, right now.>Why not name the markets that are so dependent on location?>So dependentAgain, you cannot readI already said that the housing market is the most dependant, therefore you are asking a question I already gave an implicit answer to. >Gold is massively overvaluedNo, it's not, this is just cope to pretend printing money and taking debt is not the issue (it is)
>>282789991Mermaids.
>>282799285>Spicy Wolf>MaoYuu>Log Horizon>C/a/ olev economics
>>282789991What is this from?
>>282795175I so wish to know how it looked like.
>>282790005>Not even current humans can build shit like thisOf course we can, it's simply too pants on head retarded to bother.
>>282799610>WrongEurope is pretty big you know, lots of countries with very different governments.Of course, you'll find a counterexample or two.>spending *less* money On what? What do governments spend their money on that you don't like?>I already said that the housing market is the most dependantAnd I requested that you name another one. Why won't you do it?>No, it's notBut Gold is overvalued. The use-value of gold is a tiny fraction of its price and similarly, it is not as scarce as the price would suggest.You can just mine more Gold, if you wanted to bring the price down. It's the same as your housing example, weird how you think that works for one thing, but not another.>printing money and taking debt is not the issue (it is)That's just your opinion my man. Can you show some evidence?
>>282799795>>282799610I've completely lost track of who is arguing for what position, can you guys restate that shit really quick? Thanks.
>>282799795>And I requested that you name another one. Why won't you do it?You are slow aren't you?I said that the housing market is the one most dependent on locationYou asked for something as dependent on locationThe answer is implicit, I already told you its the most dependent, therefore there is no example *AS* dependent on locationThis does not make it evade the laws of economy, nor does it make it different from everything else, because while nothing is *as* dependent on location, location is already a factor in the laws of economics because it's something most things are affected bySince you keep asking the same question which I had already answered, and asking why I did not even after I pointed out I already did, I can only come to the conclusion that you are terminally and medically retarded>you'll find a counterexample or twoYes, the counterexamples exist: places where things get built in an amount proportional to the demand (gowing population) have prices either not growing or growing much slowerTherefore the counterexample prove me right (Dallas, Austin)> The use-valueIrrelevantA painting has no use value and can cost millions, use value doesn't existAny time an economist tries to predict with "use value", the prediction fails. You would think people would get it by now.> it is not as scarce as the price would suggestCorrect, it is not, its your money that is toilet paper>That's just your opinion my man. Can you show some evidence?I shouldn't, someone who tells me that I don't "understand economy" should be informed enough to know the failings of MMT, but if you really want evidence, I already posted a graph >>282799021
>clearly a fictional facility built in the middle of the sea>European housing estateslolwut
>>282789991Your wife, every night, while you're on duty.
City/Town KINO? say no more.
>>282800365Pretty small for a provincial capital innit?
>>282800096>You asked for something as dependent on locationYes, anon. The real estate market is as dependent on location as the real estate market. You are very smart, good job providing an example, I am very proud of you.>the laws of economics What laws? Which ones specifically do you mean? Do you mean that location factors are generally priced in? Yes, that's correct, but that's not the point I am making. I am saying that housing is non-fungible, that you cannot treat a house in one location the same as a house in another location.>I can only come to the conclusion that you are terminally and medically retardedYou seem frustrated. Are you running into a language barrier? Your grammatical and spelling errors suggest as much.>counterexample prove me right (Dallas, Austin)Ah yes, my favorite European cities, Dallas and Austin.But to dispense with the mockery for a moment, I was clearly talking about a counterexample in the context of Europe. Yes, maybe Spain made mistakes in housing policy, but other countries did not.Just to make sure you understand the point I am making, because English seems to not be your strong suit.>Any time an economist tries to predict with "use value", the prediction failsCounterexample: every other metal>someone who tells me that I don't "understand economy"Are you using chatgpt to translate this, because I didn't say that. I said that you don't understand real estate, which you still don't.>I already posted a graph >>282799021Okay, so what does this graph mean and how does it relate to Apartheit South Africa?You should understand this, if you are talking about historic Gold prices.>>282800108This fictonal city has very similar pricing pressures when compared to historic European urban cores today.
>>282796525Civilization? Lol, go being butthurt somewhere else, stupid injun. You were brutal and violent, so were the euros. But the euros had better weapons, so you lost, cry about it.
>>282797340>>282797019>>282796723Now, I won't comment on Blackrock, but it seems to me that one of the biggest problems the US has is that the kind of neighbourhoods and houses you NEED to solve the crisis are either banned or villified. You know, Commieblocks with acceptable apartments and nice parks for the kids.Oh sure, everyone wants a house, I also want one. But this is getting increasingly unaffortable and takes too much space while no alternative is really on the market. People would probably accept the decent apartment eventually to save money, but it's not even an option.
>>282800960>everyone wants a houseIdk all the "realistically" rich characters in animu live in "fancy" apartment buildings and as someone who lived in both I get it. Plebs overrate houses.
>>282800960New American families (young people in their 20s) would be totally fine if 2 bedroom apartments (one for them, one for baby) in cities went for $1.5k USD, that's a totally reasonable price for even two people on minimum wage in most states, would allow for a stay at home mother outside of this most severe case. Add on good public transit, public safety, density, and I expect birthrates would increase too. Not impossible asks for policymakers anywhere in the world imo.
>>282800386At least they have farms.
>>282789991All that matters is that it looks kind of cool from the sky. Never mind the inconvenience of actually living there.
>>282801892A science fiction society with artificial food production or something might be able to live there. But even for them it would be done to show that it can be done, no other reason.
>>282798700airport with what looks like solar-panel generators, to the left of that area, water filtration/industrial storage of various liquids+materials, bottom left of the screen looks like some sort of anti-air defence system.Overall it kinda makes sense. i havent watched this anime yet though so i dunno what its like.
>>282795838Look up the Troll A Gravity-based structure dumbass.
That one bridge to the mainland must get SO much traffic. Why is this place so far above sea level? Not even a fucking boat can access it. No docks, no airports, nothing... Even my retarded ass can plan a better city.
>>282802212>Not even a fucking boat can access it.That just means it's pirate proof.
I want to live here. Just noble enough to get myself a place in one of the inner rings and also one of the few with a big front lawn and a nice view.
>>282789991Fish and vegetable.>>282790005Its an anime, it does not care about current human capacity.
>>282789991My cum.
>>282789991More importantly, what do they drink? They must all be drinking golem
I'm a fan of evil empire capital designs.
>>282803288thats fucking SICK, they should make a high-res version of that image for wallpapers. Hell, i'd commission a painting on it if i cared enough lol
>>282802212>No docks, no airports, nothing... You prbly fly in a mecha or something.
>>282789991fish>>282803019filtered pee
>>282804174And where are these mechas maintained, man?? They're generally bigger than a car and need a lot of manpower to keep running. Does every household have a mech?
>>282805498Logistics is unsexy to the Japanese autist, they don't care about writing up the minutia of maintaining a Wolnir XB-9 reverse-joint bipedal combat armor, and talking about how the armor plating is designed to make replacing damaged panels as cheap and easy as possible.
>>282795838The Skyscrapers you see there are about 170-200m tall Haumri Island Square Tower X is 195m The twin resident towers are 170-172mSo clearly you can build very tall on reclaimed land. It's just a question of why would you.
>>282790005If ancients did build it, it wouldn't last, being over a body of water
>>282800365In real life most did actually look like this the only unrealistic part is the lack of housing outside. Before cars, trains and other vehicles life was divided into basically 5 km distances. You average man could walk that in an hour or so. A farmers own plot/garden would be about 5~500m away from his house. With the rest being ariable land for the lord or church or whatever he served. What you'd have is little villages upstream all the way on the river. They'd all sell their goods downstream in the town and then go back home with something vaulable in return usually on foot. Just about every large city in Europe, China and Japan was built on this principle. Prauge, Budapest, Frankfurt, The entire Reihn belt, Paris, London, Rome, Warsaw, Florence, Moscow, Tokyo, Osaka, Every single big Chinese city, Pyongyang, Seoul. They were all built on "water highways" where villages upstread would feed the massive cities via the river.
I think the real question is, how does Impel Down regulate the environment levels on each floor? Why is it level 6 despite being where the most dangerous people are put, is devoid of any forms of torture to keep them too weak to attempt escape.There must be some large reactor somewhere powering everything.
>>282790005Although not as advanced, I think the Aztecs built something like this, Tenochtitlan
>>282807261If a disgusting native is able to build something like this, why can't we?
>>282800365That's actual okay. Far from the most accurate but okay.
how come no isekais ever do big dick tower cities?
>>282807394Lack of steel mainly.
>>282803076what show is this?
>>282789991Whatever the farmers and fisherman bring in.>>282790005As >>282794975 showed, cities on lakes actually existed. Pic was built without the wheel.
>>282807614Busamen Gachi Fighter
>>282790005Alexander the Great once turned an island into a peninsula so he could siege it with war machines properly; you severely underestimate human capabilities.
>>282789991How is life on lower levels?
>>282803288That's just Disney Land with a palette swap.
>>282789991Cake?
>not acquiring instant ocean rights and building a anti pirate fleet (a reason to build the navy and not be invaded)
>>282790005the fucking aztecs built shit like thisCortes had a good kek sieging it
>>282790174It could, depending on some factors. But also that isn't a lake, its a water golem, no idea if anything can live in it.
>>282790005Magic. You aren't even recognizing the most bullshit thing about it, that "lake" is a single massive water golem. Almost anything else about how it could've been made stems from that.
>>282802468An angry sheep has been trying to kill you for 200 years.
>>282812816>for 200 years200 years and hasn't succeeded yet? lmao
>>282790005autists will complain if they just built a circle walled city on land
>>282790005472 meters tallIt weighs 1,050,000 tons, and its construction used 245,000 cubic meters of concrete and approximately 100,000 tons of reinforced steel.This is more than twice the weight of the worlds tallest skyscraper, and is the largest object ever created. It floats until it is towed in place and then secured to the sea floor. This is just one of many massive oil and gas platforms. They could build entire cities like this but it is pointless to do so.
>>282789991Why didn't you put the show's name in the subject field? I thought there wasn't even a thread up. Anyway, it was a good episode. Dina was cute, and it was funny when she got trod on. Wish they sexualized Dina more, though.
>>282790005>Not even current humans can build shit like this.Yeah, they can. They just don't because of bureaucracy, cost and shit taste.>>282790010/thread
>>282795255Christcucks are subhuman
THE CITY OF ISEAKAIVILLE
>>282790005That is really easy to build, maintaining it is difficult unless you invest into the materials which makes it more manageable.
>>282807845Truly lame as fuck that they all got wiped out, they were the closest thing to aliens.
>>282813960My city basically looks like this only that they connected the U section of the river with a straight artificial canal at some point which is why I never understood how anyone can dislike the generic isekai towns
>>282803288Looks like Inferno from might & magic
>>282790071are you retarded? that's a shallow coast. the op pic is built in the middle of the fucking ocean.
>>282813960THE CITY OF ISEKAIVILLE IS ON FIRE
>>282806827Good old Ankh-Morporkh.
>>282795175>e*ropeansThe vast majority of the besiegers and sackers of Tenochtitlan were natives though. Only about 1000 out of the 200.000 attackers were European, the Aztecs were immensely unpopular.
>>282790174It's a magic lake allowing for fish to become massive quickly and reproduce infinitely. All their food also grows insanely.
>>282799285That wolf only knows about economics. You need a big titty real estate agent and her cute dork friends for this discussion.
>>282815739Real estate is not real.
>>282789991The only thing wrong with this is how much time it would take to distribute goods since there's only one way in or out of the city, and the design of the city's streets connecting each district to each other is not travel-friendly.
>>282813506Pls undastando he is nice sheep, but also probably messes up your night sometimes with earthquakes or something.
>>282815771It uses a monorail system
>>282813653how can she flaot?
>>282789991Vivec... home...
>>282813960
>>282790005It's magic I don't have to explain shit.
>>282807960Yeah, it's not even a really difficult thing to do, especially if the water is not very deep. Once you pile up enough material or sink a foundation you can build on, it's pretty much just like building on dry land.For God's sake, Venice is a city of stone built in the middle of a lagoon in antiquity using that strategy. I'd argue that real city is more impressive than OP's pic when available technology is taken into account.Whe could be building this shit, but why bother using all that material when there is perfectly fine land to build on already?
>ah yes, let's compare middle age with modern day>it's maaaaaaaaaaaaaaagic brooooooooooo
>>282816593>Thread full of examples of ancient constructionsU mad?
>>282789991Fuck you reddit worldbuilders. We need more alien and bizzare architect.
>>282790005that is basically designed purely in compression, the romans could do it how viable that is would be down to water depth but even then the problem is expensiveness not feasibility
>>282816269Buoyancy is actually really easy to design for, it's a lot harder to sink ships than you may think. The main risk for floating platforms is them flipping over, not sinking.There was a floating platform in the 1980s called the Ocean Ranger that flipped over during a storm in the Grand Banks. It didn't sink, but the whole crew died, a small village of over 200 people. That is why they went with the kind of rig they could tow out and sink to sit on the seabed when they built Hibernia.
>>282816737careful with that image anon, i got a warning for posting a cartoon by a Japanese webcomic artist for "posting non-anime images" by a tranny-janny, because it wasn't animu enough.
>>282789991Food
>>282790005>How is this justified in-universe?if it's from what I think it is, wheelchair accessibility>Not even current humans can build shit like this.sorry, too busy piling up debt to feed niggers
>>282792680>a damn parking garage for their ships over 2000 years ago.for some reason this got a snicker out of me. Have a (you)
>>282791306Wow, I didn't know Neo Tokyo in Akira was actually inspired by a real-world proposed building plan for Tokyo
>>282795175Shoulda invented gunpowder first.
Always build on or near water even if it looks ridiculous and makes no goddamn sense
>>282816369it doesn't really look like a circle, but alright
>>282790005Tenochtitlan, Venezia
>>282818788walls too tall, outer walls retarded, those few buildings on a floating rock are retarded unless it's a prison, and finally the keep is too big.
>>282817247Fine.
>>282807488Bologna didn't have steel either.
>>282805899I actually think burgers are the most dedicated when it comes down to building up their fictional world.Not just how the tech works, but usually also details on how the government works etc. In most other countries SOME parts are detailed, but usually not much else.
>>282820822chaika on the oil rig!
>>282820505The earlier circular inner wall extended far beyond the limits of your photo to the top and the right (same orientation in this reconstruction, but compare the sizes and distance of the royal and eastern palaces), your photo pretty much only showing the "sacred district" as far as I can tell (its uploader on wikimedia commons didn't bother to provide a scale or sources for his naming). The palaces were constructed in a later period (the "third city of Mari") than the painting, and the so-called "internal rampart" of the photo only matches the much larger circular inner rampart, nowaways not visible from aerial photographs, in a few segments.
>>282820822>Wah! What are we going to do on the seabed onii-chan?
>>282822181not every anime can be mushoku s1.most are at most like mushoku s2.>>282821982ok i rest my case. a real circular city then.
>>282822266I doubled-checked the scale from google maps in case my hunch was insane, and the photo appears to be roughtly 1km wide, so I've overlaid it on the bigger map in its roughly correct position with a width of 240px = 1000m.
>>282822545good city autist. meet you after they reveal other ridiculous cities in this series.
>>282816521>Whe could be building this shit, but why bother using all that material when there is perfectly fine land to build on already?Its semi-occupied. All of humanity is pushed back into a tiny region, so that city-state counts as a nation.
>>282799285I knew getting a PhD on macroeconomics was worth it.
>>282815739I need to FUCK that blue haired dork!
>>282816363'least it was until I fucked everything up
>>282822266>most are at most like mushoku s2.Not really
This the isekai thread?Honestly the tropes of shit like "oh my whole class got isekai'd and they hate me now" or "party betrays and banishes obvious pillar supporting them" or "I'm a sad fucking no bitches loser with no charisma or anything going for me 180ing into a free harem" are so done to death I think an Isekai could be novel and a breakout hit just by having the characters not be retarded caricatures of personality archetypes. Like at this point I would be shocked to see a group of friends get isekai'd, not have at least 1 instant traitor, and to actually have to work in any meaningful way to become powerful.
>>282813960Isekaiville if he real.
>>282826193[Arabian Nights starts playing]
>>282826382*Faint throat singing from the distance*
>>282816645>circle city>but on the water>and tallGod I hope aliens aren't this boring.
>>282813653>why our ancestors built this ugly shit?>probably something about the cult of poseidon. or aliens.
>>282826382Just played Tales of the Arabian Nights the other day. Great board game.
>>282827644This is what happens when worldbuilding is done by autists who think we need to conside plate tectonics and atmospheric oscillation before we draw a map.
>>282790010
>>282825394you see the downgrade don't you.
>>282813653>They could build entire cities like this but it is pointless to do so.I doubt it. Just because you can in theory build one doesn't mean you can build at a scale like in OP image, or more importantly _afford_ to build such a megaproject. Image search can't find it, but judging by the looks this seems to be another generic isekai so what we are seeing is 99% concrete just to put on some two story houses. Is there at least a seedy underbelly inside of those giant platforms? Some long forgotten structures of a greater civilization that allow us to tell ourselves it made sense when built? If not, just lower the whole thing down to ~10m above the sea, put in a harbor on the inside and tell us it's to protect from the waves. A lot of these isekai/fantasy cities simply take fairly mundane ideas for a city but completely blow up the proportions of one element or another. Maybe they're forgetting that ancient maps/drawings aren't modern air images, maybe they're just lazy, but you're left with something both boring and unrealistic. Either research your shit and show me the cool details or go ham and give me a city carved into the world tree, hanging gardens suspended between the ribs of a giant ancient monster, a city at the bottom of the ocean or whatever.
>>282829165>seems to be another generic isekai90% it is a battle harem. prove me wrong
>>282829165>A lot of these isekai/fantasy cities simply take fairly mundane ideas for a city but completely blow up the proportionsIt's almost like it's a fantasy AND a cartoon. Who needs or cares about boring realism? We want to see something different, new, fantastic. Something that makes us wonder and gives food for thought-if it's possible that a thing like that could be made. >Just because you can in theory build one doesn't mean you can build at a scale like in OP image, or more importantly _afford_ to build such a megaproject. So yes, it'll be blown up of proportions, It's no fucking sitcom of the average life of Joe. It'll be that one megaproject that humanity dreams of doing. I'll take this over that.
>>282829331but where's the academy then?
>>282790260mochi, seaweed and chinamen
>>282829331MC is dickless.
>>282790260Raw fish, rotten beans and dried leaves.
>>282789991Bats
>>282829573but it doesn't look medieval
>>282829747they're there for 2, maybe 3 eps. then they'll leave.
>>282829785oh.
>>282829331>generic isekai>battle haremPotato, potato. The only difference is how unwilling isekai is to let waifus steal the action scenes from MC.
>>282790174it was stated they farm fish massively, you dumbfuck
>>282820956Are you really gonna sit here and downplay the impact steel had on the average height of buildings? Why? Like sure, Bologna, parts of China, some castles in Japan and Korea, tall things existed. But steel is definitely a big deal if you want a shitload of towers cheaply and easily. Is this a gotcha? Are you trying to gotcha me?
>>282828890not at all when it comes to Sharia.
>>282821182Often to their detriment. Ultra bespoke magic systems and OC donut steel races or fictional rivet counting on spaceships does not a good story make. Fortunately most Americans are trapped in an infinite worldbuilding spiral they can never escape from so their shit stories never grace our eyes.
