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Tenchi Bridge Reconnaissance Mission
Chapter 285: The Foundation

Previous chapter:
>>282805577 chapter 284
Start: https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/a.desu.meta/subject/Daily%20Naruto%20Chapter/filter/text/page/8/

Believe it!
Thanks for joining and reading.
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>>282828178
IT SHOULD'VE BEEN ANKO CHUDMOTO!!!!!
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>>282828256
give old characters purpose and growth? nah, add 50 one note randoms to fill every niche and then keep them in the sidelines while the 3 main characters do everything else
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>>282828320
Who is the 3rd main character you're refering to? Kakashi?
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>>282828343
What is the purpose of these two panels?
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>>282828437
Naruto saying that Sai could never measure up to his man.
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>>282828350
prodigy copy ninja hatake kakashi of the sharingan, master of 5 gorillion jutsu he will never use more than once
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>>282828256
>>282828320
>When you're so sexist you actively make your story worse because you can't bear to make a well liked female character relevant after doing that in the previous arc
I was gonna say Kishi is the lovercraft of Misogyny, but he's still not that bad, so JK Rowling of Misogyny it is.
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>>282828205
fuck sai
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>>282828375
huge apartment for a guy employed by a shadow organization
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>>282828254
>>282828343
Those pages don't really give me tge impression that Sai and Sasuke are alike but rather that Team 7 AND Kishimoto himself have a very shallow view of Sasuke.
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>>282828452
shikamaru anbu?
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>>282828452
why is chudkamaru trying to assassinate prett boy sai? is he mad that sai's misogyny endears him with women and comes from the heart, while his is because he has an Oedipus complex?
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>>282828563
Ino did that.
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>>282828452
Iruka is part of ROOT?
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>>282828667
>Mistakes will not be tolerated
>Fails to kill Sasuke and suffers nothing from this
Kishi, you god damn hack.
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>>282828254
sakura is so faithless baka. the future father of her child is out there struggling and in the span of a week she's been attracted to both Naruto and Sai. who can even say what she's been feeling for Neji and Kiba, all the while her HUSBAND is being groomed, probably even used for sexual gratification, by a genocidal nonbinary snake with a problematic age gap and penchant for confused and solitary boys!!
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>>282828715
That would unironically be an interesting twist that recontextualizes his relationship with Naruto.
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>>282828563
Ino...
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>>282828761
>>282828715
how can he be in Root when he's Tobi?
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>>282828787
But Tobi is Yamato.
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>>282828667
>Just a cat
>In a setting where shapeshifting is a basic jutsu to graduate from the accademy
Shouldn't he be a bit more careful?
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>>282745590
This is a dumb and retarded reason for this arc to exist. You could've just had Kakashi decide to train Naruto after the Kazekage arc.
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>>282828715
no, Iruka is the old guy Naruto has ramen dates with
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Hinatasisters... I can't believe it's already over for us.
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>>282829072
Is there a single worse character than Danzo?
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>>282829072
Is the Danzo the epitome of ENTER?
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>>282829105
Hashirama
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>>282829127
leave madara's boyfriend alone
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>>282829132
OH MY GOD HE SAID THE THING
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>>282829105
I really doubt that, Madara is bad but at least he come later, when the story already collapsed and he's just the ending of logic, Danzo kneecapped it this early.
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fuck danzo
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>>282829132
>rooted
Heh
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>>282829105
I personally hate Yamato and how boring and unnecessary his entire existence as a character is. I can at least laugh at how shitty and poorly written Danzo is, but Yamato is genuinely a nothing character.
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>>282829072
sexual tension is palpable.....
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>>282829132
Professorbros...
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>>282829312
>princess, thank you for 'relieving' me..... cigarette?
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>>282829171
It's funny when you try to watch people on youtube like swagkage who act like Kaguya ruined the entire story, even though Kishi clearly stopped giving a shit about any sort of logic in the manga by the time Edo Madara shows up.
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>>282828168
kill yourself narutard
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>>282828343
Gay
Naruto you have just left Gaara, ffs
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>>282829386
I understand that Danzo didn't exist back when Tsunade was made Hokage, but is there an in-universe reason for why he didn't attempt to become Hokage before she showed up?
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>>282828343
>it's Sakura who is trying to contain her jizzling over Sasuke while Naruto is going all out in jeerking off
It's always nice to see love rivals calm down and fangirl together
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The funniest thing about Danzo is that any of the hokage could've done away with him and everything he did very easily.After Sasuke killed him, Root dissolved almost instantly, so Hiruzen, Tsunade or maybe even Minato could have just arrested him and be done with all of his bullshit.
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>>282829386
danzo, dumbass
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>>282828452
>Remember
>Around Senju, never let your guard down
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>>282828559
>lovercraft
First of all, is Lovecraft
Second
>HP Lovecraft of Misogyny
>JK Rowling of Misogyny
What the fuck do these mean?
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>>282829132
>pacifist teachings
Surely he's not talking about Sarutobi "I love watching children die" Hiruzen.
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>>282829079
if you were naruto would you lick her lifeless and exposed foot after she confessed her love and sacrificed her life for you only for you to ignore it?
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>>282828178
>No, it's the Genin who are wrong
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>>282828667
That cat taught Naruto how to do a Rasengan, show some respect
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>>282829485
>Itachi appears.
Sakura: "Who?"
>Danzo appears.
>Sakura: "Who?"
Sakura no investment in the cast.
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>>282828600
>rather that Team 7 [...] have a very shallow view of Sasuke
You only now got that, stuff like "Oh I have a family, but ifbyou left I would be just as alone!" didn't tip you off? Because oh boy are "Well Orochimaru is dead, why isn't Sasuke just going back to the village??" and "Well Itachi is dead and Konoha killed his family, why isn't Sasuke just going back to the village??" still incoming.
Sasuke is their trophy and a cool boy approval cure for their bad self-esteem/loneliness, I don't think either of them ever cared about actual Sasuke.
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>>282828833
>a story about ninja
>the most basic jutsu we see is shapeshifting
>something so basic even Naruto can do it perfectly
>no one ever uses it to do ninja stuff like spying and infiltrating places
Kishimoto is a hack post #863250782615
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>>282829485
Anon, he's supposed to be mysterious. Why do you think we never saw him in Part 1? Shikamaru doesn't know who he is.
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>>282829611
The actual Sasuke has the personality of a rock. His entire life is carried by his "cool" aura.
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>>282829588
I can totally imagine Yamato saying that.
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>>282829439
Only the anime made it seem like Danzo even wanted to be hokage because of the retarded attempted assassination scene. Orochimaru failing to become hokage fucked up his entire career plan.
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>>282829132
>As far back as the Third Hokage's rule
Three years ago?
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>>282829657
>Why do you think we never saw him in Part 1?
because he was plotting and drinking babies' blood or something, of course
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>>282829439
The feudal lords were only seeking Sanin. It must've made him seethe.
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>>282828168
>the search for saucegay continues
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>>282829361
>by the time Edo Madara shows up
By reading this daily he's already half given up, seeing how most chapters read like anime storyboards
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>>282745590
Make Naruto begin the development of rasenshuriken during his training of Jiraiya and tease it in the first few arcs as this super strong jutsu Naruto is developing but hasn't finished yet. The onscreen rasenshuriken training is the stupidest thing in early part 1 by far.
Having Naruto already know the shadow clones can be used for training/studying/intel and having him use them for this purpose over the course of the first arcs would also help establish post-timeskip Naruto as a somewhat competent ninja as opposed to the shitter we see until Kakuzu.
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>>282829439
it's not about the position its about sending a message
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>>282829605
I believe it's the fourth time Kishi has recycled this gate drawing
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>>282829657
Tsunade literally called him by name 5 seconds before she asked who tf. Itachi was an obvious one.
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>>282829611
>Sasuke is their trophy and a cool boy approval cure for their bad self-esteem/loneliness, I don't think either of them ever cared about actual Sasuke.
It's funny because the more I think about it, the more I realize that Sasukefags hating on other characters not understanding him and Sasuke haters hating on other characters constantly excusing him as a dindu are both a product of the same problem: characters infantilizing, borderline objectificating Sasuke. He really is just a trophy bad boy to fix for Naruto and Sakura.
This is why they refuse to hold him accountability for the bad things he does, but this is also why whenever Sasuke is right and has absolute right to be mad literally no one takes him seriously, he is always considered wrong without looking at anything from his perspective
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>>282829132
>>282829312
This cunt walked into the hokage's office just to vent about how much he fucking hated Sarutobi and left. My sides have been destroyed.
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>>282829312
He just fucked both of them then undid it with Izanagi
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>>282829670
I wouldn't say so. He does have some smaller, more subtle bits, especially in part 1. Sure he's not going to scream out his personality trait like Naruto and Sakura do
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>>282828667
A ninja cat!?
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>>282829811
>This is why they refuse to hold him accountability for the bad things he does, but this is also why whenever Sasuke is right and has absolute right to be mad literally no one takes him seriously, he is always considered wrong without looking at anything from his perspective
Naruto is Twilight with ninja LMAO
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>>282829734
It's less giving up and more of selling out. Remember that Masashi picked money while his twin brother Seishi picked drawing supplies when they were kids. Naruto is already a smash hit with an anime at this point. Kishi doesn't need to impress anyone anymore to stay afloat. He can just draw out his ideas and see them animated.
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>>282829881
>he's not going to scream out his personality trait
His team introduction was
>I hate a lot of things, I love nothing, I have to kill someone, fuck you all
And then called Sakura trash for making fun of Naruto for being an orphan; then spent the rest of part 1 seething because he became a punching bag.
That's all of Sasuke part 1.
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>>282829902
>Naruto is Twilight with ninja LMAO
So does this mean that Sakura is Bella ?
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>>282829970
Well sure, if you only read the wiki short summary
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>>282829105
Danzo should've died right when Tobirama die he did absolutely nothing for the village and all his plans were retarded.
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>>282829600
Kishi has used Sakura as a tool for exposition since part 1
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>>282829970
I liked him losing his chance of revenge sacrificing himself to protect Naruto from Haku, or him giving in to the cursed mark not for Itachi but for his teammates.
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>>282829400
Gaara's penis doesn't work.
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>>282829439
Danzo had no feats to become hokage that's why he was banking on Orochimaru.
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>>282829853
>this fucking scene
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>>282830031
Sasuke is Bella
Naruto & Sakura are Edward and Jacob
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To be fair, Sakura is still above two ANBUs asking "who is that?" at two reanimated Hokage
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>>282830241
Didn't Edward win though?
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>>282830241
>Naruto & Sakura are Edward and Jacob

Which one is which?
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>>282828343
Gay.
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>>282828569
The CIA pays well
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>>282828343
But is Sauce cooler than Orbito?
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>>282829312
Tsunade's big fat soft suckable lips__
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>>282830297
>>282830302
Naruto is Edward 'cause he's the protagonist that wins the heart of the one he loves.
Sakura is Jacob 'cause they're both an editorial imposition that was forced to become a love interest and settles for a lesser version of the love between the protagonists, in Jacob's case for Bella's daughter and in Sakura's case being a single mother for a man who clearly doesn't give a fuck about her and only loves Naruto
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>>282829132
He was, indeed, ROOTED
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>>282830470
Does that mean that Sakuras true love is Boruto then?
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>>282829554
Both of those writers are very racist to the point where it's pretty obvious from the way their stories are written.
Kishi is like that, but for sexism.
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>Danzo... YOU'RE FIRED
Was that so hard?
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>>282830548
Why fire him when you should kill him?
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>>282829605
so... that's the entire chapter?
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>>282830548
If Sasuke didn't kill him, you just fucking know Naruto would not just forgive Danzo, but also leave him in power
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Chapter 285: The Foundation

END

Tomorrow: Naruto, Sasuke & Sakura
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>>282830587
Please look forward to more exciting moments of Naruto PMSing
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>>282830612
you sure took your sweet time to dump that last page huh
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>>282830531
Then just say
>The Murakami of Manga
or
>The Japanese Heinlein
Have you ever read a book?
It's concerning that you have to use pop culture to make an analogy
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>>282830523
Maybe
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>>282830611
It would be interesting to see. Danzo, and those other Geezers too really, was totally incompatible with the kind of future Naruto wanted. It's like how the 2nd Tsuchikage told onoki to make sure to fuck the rest up after the war was over. Danzo would have totally done that
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>>282830548
Danzo was probably seething and Minato not giving a fuck about him.
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>>282830548
I wonder how hard it was for Kishimoto to restrain himself from not making Danzo leaking the details of Kushina giving birth.
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>>282830663
Would that have been any different outside of the fact that you don't like the examples i used?
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>>282830523
Well, there's an old theory of Kawaki falling for Sakura due to Isshiki's genes, leave it or take it.
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>>282830470
Wouldn't Naruto be Jacob since he's the furry one and Sakura be Edward for actually procreating with Sasuke?
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>>282830760
It's very weird that you used two authors known for racism then went
>that but for misogyny
instead of two authors known for sexism
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>>282829605
Sai should’ve been in the middle desu
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I read a fanfic of Danzo x Sakura
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>>282830848
>>282830788
Sakuras true purpose in this franchise is ship bait
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>>282830819
If you go with form, yes
If you go with essence, what I wrote
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>>282830823
Well yeah, I felt like that would've been easier to make the point come across, i also didn't put that much thought into it anyway.
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>>282830571
Minato is loving and merciful so long as you're not a filthy rocky
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>>282830912
Sakura's true purpose is to make Kishimoto age rapidly because he's forced to write a female as a vital character in the main narrative dynamic for the entirety of the manga
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>>282830912
I mean, that's literally why Yahagi ordered her to be created.
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>>282830927
fair
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>>282830959
She is probably his most useful character. Over half of the world building of this series is delivered by Sakura going "what????"
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>>282829132
>>282829072
>Hokage
>must accept orders from Danzo and the other two clowns
Literally why?
Its not even worth being Hokage at this point
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>>282830961
>Torishima forces Toriyama to make Bulma
>Toriyama makes shit up on the spot
>one of the most beloved female character in manga history, an strong, independent woman who goes on adventure and isn't scared of being both sexual and the straight one in any situation, always there to help, with a rich and colorful personality
>Yahagi forces Kishimoto to make Sakura
>arguably the most hated female character in WSJ history, a complete disaster
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>>282830912
>>282830959
>>282831022
Still better and more respected than Nobara
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>>282831074
>Danzo & old geezers go to Minato
>Do this, do that
>nah I have better things to do, sorry
>teleports away
He had to be eliminated
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>>282831074
it's Hokage, not all powerful dictator. There would obviously be checks and balances. Now those balances being shady ass geezers is another issue
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This is how Kishimoto felt when Yahagi told him that he had to make Sakura and Chiyo (females), not only survive, but also beat Sasori (male).
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>>282831109
I hope Minato completely sidelined those three fuckers. Maybe even disbanded Root while he was in charge
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>>282831088
I haven't read nor watched JJK, if that's the Nobara you're talking about, but man she must be apocalyptically atrocious to be worse than Sakura
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>>282831110
If I showed you this panel with no context, what's the emotion expressed here?
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>>282831130
>this is the legendary teleporter
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>>282831175
cute
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>>282831146
Imagine if Sakura died during the Pain arc only to show up again for the first time in years when she punches Kaguya
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>>282829605
Why does the gate says
>N A?
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>>282831117
>it's Hokage, not all powerful dictator
>There would obviously be checks and balances
Meanwhile
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>>282831130
There are three or four different stories about how Danzo gets Shisui's sharingan. I love Kishi's writing
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>>282831117
Well Konoha kinda is a dictatorship, it's just that it is more of a party-dictatorship rather than a single person one, aka you have to answer to other people in power with you, and they are the ones picking Hokage in the first place
Holy kek that's literally LDP and prime ministers in current Japan, except their senile majority choses the party
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>>282831130
i seriously hate shippuden's use of rotoscoping, they only use it to make their characters look gay as fuck
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>>282831203
Ok, but before that how was she?
Because 90% of the time Sakura is horrendously written because Kishi clearly hates that she's even in the story
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>>282831227
not even rotoscoped...
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>>282828320
Yamato ends up being useful in some ways with the Kyuubi restraining stuff and the Hashirama cells so it's fine
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>>282831248
so the ass shot was carefully hand drawn by their top animators?
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>>282831244
Kishimoto hates that he has to write any female in the story.
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>>282831223
It's more unofficial hereditary, like in North Korea where nothing states that the Supreme Leader is to be given to members of the same familyl, it's just the population admires them so much that everyone agrees to that being how it goes.
Like in Konoha, it's just a coincidence that every single Hokage was a Senju or direct pupil of a Senju, Kakashi being the only exception
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Love how earlier on in the storytime most anons(including myself) were a lot more skeptical of Kishi being sexist, but it's near unanimous that he is now.
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>>282831227
There's no rotoscoping here.>>282831274
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>>282831274
yes sir
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>>282831274
That's clearly not rotoscoped, it's a totally normal animation
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>>282829386
the moderate child killing/neglecting/Orochimaru enabling Hiruzen. The eternal fencesitter...
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>>282831296
>, it's just a coincidence
It sure is
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>>282831223
it's a bit more than that because all the Jonin get to vote on it too. It's why when Danzo finally got the spot he was had to restrain himself a bit from his shady ways
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>>282828343
>Sasuke was way cooler!
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>>282831308
>makes a female kage
>makes her grossly incompetent at every opportunity
I'm noticing
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>>282831345
>because all the Jonin get to vote on it too
And when was that with Tsunade?
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>>282831359
Sasuke's dick is only going to bury itself deeper in Naruto's throat as we go on
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>>282828761
What if Iruka is in ROOT but his relationship with Naruto is entirely genuine and not part of his job?
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>>282831287
I can only imagine the seething writing Kushina must have been
>Naruto's mom must be important, Kishi-sensei
>why? His father is already important enough
>Kishi-sensei, write her and get moving
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>>282831308
We're fair and just, everyone is not guilty until proven so
And Kishi, let's just say no jury in the world's gonna let him go. Mmmmm, maybe Texas.
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>>282829079
More like defeeted.

>>282829574
Obviously.
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>>282830612
Not calling it team Yamato makes him and Sai feel irrelevant from the getgo.
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>>282831386
With no participance or desire on Sasuke's part, which is hilarious
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>>282829132
>Grandfather
You mean the guy who founded the village and could bench press mountains ? Sure his plan for the tailed beast was retarded, but he did SOMETHING at least.
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>>282829361
Kaguya is probably one of the most logical twists in the manga all things considered. Far more than Danzo, or Madara giving Rinnegan to Nagato, or Obito's entire stuff
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>>282831393
>Let's see... uh, she gets kidnapped, marries Minato, and dies.
>Kishi-sensei, what about her feelings toward her lost homeland?
>Women don't have feelings
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>>282830611
I genuinely believe the reason Kishimoto had Sasuke do it was because he knew having Naruto confront Danzo would have to result in him killing him without remorse. He would be completely incapable of keeping Naruto's "never give up!" Attitude while keeping in mind that he murdered Danzo, because the only other alternative is turning Naruto into such a joke character he looks even more pathetic than what Boruto did to him. It's also probably why we barely get a reaction from him about the guy becoming Hokage.
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>>282831382
off-screened because the legendary ninja who just healed several people will obviously pass with little trouble. Meanwhile named character was skeptical as hell of Danzo, except his geezer friends
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>>282829132
What the fuck is she saying? The third Hokage was ruling 3 years ago. Does she mean before Minato was named fourth?
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>>282829312
Danzo is the chaddest!

>>282829386
>moderate
What the fuck are these politics?

>>282829132
>pacifist pushover
SARUTOBI OKAY'D THE GENOCIDE OF THE UCHIHA
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team kakashi. not a single kakashi in sight.
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>>282831465
The only problem is he fumbled the fuck out of it because he made it up last minute. If we had spent the entire series knowing that the main religion of the continent was the one Kaguya set up, and all of that So6P glazing came with the knowledge that his mother sacrificed herself yada yada yada to give mankind chakra, the entire thing would have instantly been more palatable.
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Why are these dumps so inconsistent with time schedules?
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>>282830183
>>282829687
How does Orochimaru being made Hokage help him? What does that grant Danzo and how does he know Orochimaru will be on his payroll? This is fucking stupid Kishimoto just picked Orochimaru because he's evil and Danzo has to be associated with evil
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>>282831522
>SARUTOBI OKAY'D THE GENOCIDE OF THE UCHIHA
Only one clan? Pathetic, Danzo would have purged 70% of Konoha, and only the strongest would have remained
Will of Fire btw
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>>282831526
Yeah I agree that it feels out of place in some ways, but everything about it thematically is actually pretty solid. Naruto was at its best when it took inspiration from religion and mythology, this arc had both.
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>>282831565
Plus it would have really fed into the theme that there is a genuine cycle of hatred. Wed spend the entire series thinking that the sage and his mother are this wholesome legendary duo, only to find out all the inconvenient parts were left out, his mother became a beast, everyone forgot his brother, and not long after the same cycle continued with his own children.
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>>282831493
>>282830548
Alternative solution: how about writing Danzo as something other than the root of all evil and actually someone who took heavy handed but necessary actions to support Konoha?
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One day I'll bother trying to organize the philosophies and policies of each hokage into something approaching coherent sense
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>>282831218
I hate explanations like >>282831130
Danzo is Shisui's superior, he doesn't have to try and fight for the eye. He can just ask for it.
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>>282831596
Then Itachi actually might have to be flawed. Therefore Sasuke wouldn't be entirely justified in his reaction. This is not allowed anon.
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>>282829132
>>282829312
What was even the purpose of this? Just got da to be some dick?
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>>282831715
Introducing Danzo whose purpose is be a scapegoat for anything shady the Leaf ever did.
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Remember, the only new jutsu Naruto learned during the three year time-skip was the gay version of the Sexy No Jutsu.
Really makes you think.
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>>282831715
The reader needs to know DANZO MAN BAD
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>>282831715
Danzo needs at least one ENTER per chapter
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>>282831769
Which he practices secretly more than the Rasengan.
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>>282831791
Can't wait for next chapter when Naruto says "enter" in a completely different context and danzo just pops out of a bush only to shit talk iruka or something and leave
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>>282831175
I'd be more confused by this expression.
>>282828320
Kishi will give Anko "growth", alright.
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>>282830827
What makes you Sai that?
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>>282829572
>>282831522
Don't forget, Hiruzen was such a pacifist he going to give the head of the Hyuga to Cloud in the most obvious fucking set-up job in the world just to avoid the possibility of war.
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>>282831086
The difference is that Toriyama never baited you into thinking Bulma was going to stand up besides Goku and Tenshinhan/Piccolo/Vegeta while also having her bicker with her murderous husband.
Sakura wasn't so Fortunate.
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>>282832018
right choice. Can't go to war with the most competent village in the setting when your one man murder army is already dead, your legendary students have fucked off, and your current gen is a bunch of shitters. They would have gotten crushed
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>>282831144
Sounds like the root came to be during Hiruzen's second period.
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>>282831086
I get you're point, but you're kind of glazing Bulma a bit thick here. 99% of people's infatuation with Bulma starts and ends with "I want to fuck her." Which isn't a bad thing, considering her main purpose is just that, alongside being a Dragon Ball finder.
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>>282831244
She only got like 1 win before being "killed off" and it wasn't even that good.
The character has no real arc or presence.
People only really compared them because she was hyped up as an example of how to write heroines for not being in love with a man.
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>>282831390
But Root can't have friends/family past/future. They would've noticed.
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>>282831546
Because Danzo is very clever, he thinks he's the big shit scheming in the background like a fag but achieves nothing. He only ever got to LARP as Hokage where nobody gave a shit about his word.
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>>282832083
Bulma is well beloved and considered a staple of the series. She provides good bits of comic relief and her unique personality shines in many way in contrast to the other characters. There's a reason why she's still a big face of Dragon Ball, and it's not people wanting to fuck her, she's not even attractive currently
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>>282831715
I mean, the way Tsunade and Danzo are framed in that second page look like Danzo asked for a blowjob.
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>>282832123
All of these together makes her look eerie as fuck.
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>>282832149
meant to say "isn't"
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>>282832123
She's a bloodthirsty sadist btw.
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>>282832123
>the looks Rin gives you when you sacrifice another 40,000 ninja for her
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>>282831546
Orochimaru was busy with his experiments and other shit and didn't really care, he was basically going to let Danzo pull the tires and so he'd have free reign to do his fuck ups in the background.
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>>282832061
Considering that Hiashi didn't really bother to keep himself hiding and that no Fuzz happened when ninjas of other villages saw him alive in the stadium, i can guarantee you that they weren't really serious about that threat and yet Konoha fell for it anyway.
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>>282832168
Tsunade gets asked that 30 times a day
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>>282831862
>>282831838
>>282830612
Arigatou, OP!
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>>282832083
I don't know man, I know a lot of women who are into anime and they all like Bulma for a lot of reasons
>proactive character, she's the one who instigates the story and is never sidelined
>smart but not nerdy
>sexually proactive but not a whore
>a good mother without this being her entire personality
>supports the main cast however she can until the bitter end
>richest woman in the world without being a stereotype
>has actual chemistry with her husband
>great fashion that changes a lot and shows her personality
just off the top of my head
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>>282832223
She doesn't seem to like that though.
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>>282832254
>and is never sidelined
eh
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>>282832215
I think it's super funny to imagine it wasn't even a planned thing, but another "the Cloud got fucked over from the ultimate alliance by a bunch of radicals" and A just decided to bluff but Hiruzen bitched out anyway.
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>>282832160
>and it's not people wanting to fuck her, she's not even attractive currently
Huh?
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>>282832272
Super killed the sex appeal of every character. Even the men. The Broly movie and video games was the last time a hot character showed up in Dragonball.
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>>282832267
She remains more relevant than most characters not named Goku/Vegeta actually
By the way she's the reason Dragon Ball doesn't end on a bad androids ending

>>282832272
Super Bulma is kind of ugly. Bulma peaked on Namek if I'm honest
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By killing Danzo Sasuke did more for the village than Danzo himself ever did.
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>>282832305
Sasuke did more for the village by killing Orochimaru than Danzo ever did. Hell Tenten did more for the village than him.
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>>282832267
In her role? No
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>>282832254
>sexually proactive but not a whore
Lmao how? She tried to seduce fucking GOKU in exchange of his dragon ball, she was willing to fall for Oolong in his pretty boy form, then nearly cheated on Yamcha with General Blue until he made it clear he was gay, then dumped Yamcha and nearly few for a Green space Nazi until he turned ugly, THEN she has a one night stand with Vegeta, births his kid and eventually marries him for "tradition".
She's the closest thing to a whore among popular entry level shounen without straight up being one.
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>>282832123
Do we ever get any good reasoning as to why Obito loved Rin so much he was willing to kill the world over her beyond she was kind of nice to him when people thought he was a fuck-up?

>>282832254
> and is never sidelined
Really?
>smart but not nerdy
True.
>sexually proactive but not a whore
You really need to reread OG Dragon Ball. Bulma is as close to a tart as a girl like her could be.
>>sexually proactive but not a whore
>a good mother without this being her entire personality
>supports the main cast however she can until the bitter end
I mean, sure? These are kind of nothing positive traits, though.
>richest woman in the world without being a stereotype
Bulma's a huge valley girl bimbo, dude. She just happens to be a genius inventor.
>has actual chemistry with her husband
Dawg all of that is fucking anime-only. It's just not there in the manga.
>great fashion that changes a lot and shows her personality
It's great fashion, yes, Toriyama is awesome at character and costume design, but it mostly just shows she's vapid and likes to change her looks a lot.
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>the racist posting only occurs when OP is here
Very strange that
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>>282832254
>sexually proactive but not a whore
The owner of this post is 5'4 and balding.
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>>282832398
Something something Rin was kind to him a few times.
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>>282832398
>Dawg all of that is fucking anime-only. It's just not there in the manga.
Everyone here considers the anime canon. At least IRL I've never met someone who went "uhm aktually that isn't canon because it's anime filler"
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>>282832123
Her face paintings look retarded. Do they even serve a purpose?
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>>282832379
>>282832398
>>282832426
Your definition of a whore is quite different from where I live, I guess
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>>282832123
Why did Kishi make her such a plain jane?
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>>282832470
Doing it for free doesn't make you a whore but you can't argue that it's more respectful.
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>>282832398
I think it was more the series of events that got him totally convinced he was in hell. I mean imagine it from his perspective, we get to see him being upstaged by Kakashi at every step, never having the courage to confess to Rin, the day he does after finally achieving Chunin Kakashi becomes a Jonin and he's overshadowed again. Then they go through that entire mission where she's kidnapped, they successfully save her only for him to be forced to sacrifice himself for Kakashi so that he can protect Rin in his stead, even giving him a sharingan. Then he wakes up in an underground tomb with basically Ninja Hitler telling him he's totally fucked no matter what he does, and that he fucked up severely by giving Kakashi his eyes. Then he finally escapes to help them, strong enough to save them both after a year of training, and no longer the loser he was before, only to literally walk right into Kakashi failing his only fucking job and killing Rin with the jutsu that Obito's sharingan allowed him to use.

Then you add on the fact that literally nobody but Rin even likes this motherfucker, he's an orphan, and a disgrace to his own clan, no sharingan for the majority of his life, and it kinda makes sense why he went completely insane to the point of disassociating from his actual identity for nearly 2 decades. People really forget that he could have easily just made his entire goal manipulating Nagato into reviving her, then fucking off to an island somewhere away from all the danger. He was just so much more pissed that reality could so constantly be shitting on him with no way of escape or a win in sight for his entire life. Not to mention that Rin was a decent person, and didn't deserve to just die like some retard because of the most hamfisted plot in the entire setting.
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>>282832426
What was supposed to offend you here? The very idea of a whore? The fact that it could be seen as a negative?
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>>282832123
>Causes the fourth shinobi war
Why did she do it?
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>>282832501
If you called someone who had 1 boyfriend as a teen, then got married and became a mother at like twenty for a grand total of 2 men in her life a whore everyone here would call you a retard.
Nobody here would call a woman being flirty, a tease or openly liking hot men a whore.
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>>282832550
Anon...that's vegeta's height.
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>>282832600
... he's even smaller than I thought.
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>>282832504
You know what, that's completely fair when you put it like that. Less of Rin herself being so special and more so her being the breaking point for Obito's mind.
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>>282831874
>Kishi will give Anko "growth", alright.
hehe
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>>282832608
Obito's motivations are good once you get past the very VERY awkward "because you let Rin die" chapter and the motivations lie on the shithole world Kishimoto wrote instead of one girl
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>>282832595
Anon, the only reason she doesn't have a double digits body count is because she's unlucky.
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Since we're talking about Bulma, I always headcanon'd that most of the other Z Fighters don't actually like her because of how much of a bitch she is normally. They only hang out with her because she's Goku's friend and also fucking rich and they like to mooch since they're all borderline hobos.
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>>282832629
I think even that crumbles when Obito didn't seem to be that against that world beforehand, even participating in the shit show by killing the iwa nin with no remorse.
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>>282828343
Gayruto
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>>282832589
>that lineart after Kishi
like water in a desert
I was in a museum once, they had original panels drawn by Toriyama & assistants, taken from Japan to be exposed. Pages from the original manga, the raws that were presented to be published.
You have no idea how beautiful they are live: there's not a blemish, the lines are so clean, no use of white ink in sight
I actually cried at one point, I was overwhelmed by the sheer beauty
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>>282832669
>even participating in the shit show by killing the iwa nin with no remorse
But that's good. Of course he'd be full of rage and take revenge as best as he could. He's not some kind of perfect pacifist, rather he saw the hopelessness of a reality where people's lives end in tragedy.
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>>282832667
Nah, they're all good friends
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>>282832629
A lot of fans forget he literally only said that in response to Kakashi asking him why he didn't come back. Every other time he's asked why he's doing what he's doing he just goes "this world is ass bro, fuck this world, I hate this world".
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Kishimoto's misogyny is endearing at times. It's like he has 5-year old boy's idea of girls and romance
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>>282832667
They go to her birthday party

She's kind of a bitch but not in a bad way
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>>282832632
That's how it is, talk to women IRL, getting laid is mostly luck
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>>282832681
Damn I wish I could see these in high quality...
>water in a desert
Yeah that's kind of how I feel right now just reading a few pages. I guess the Naruto shitposting will make up for it though
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>>282832398
>Obito loved Rin so much he was willing to kill the world over her beyond she was kind of nice to him when people thought he was a fuck-up?
It's alot of things really.
First, that people like Rin, dependable kindhearted people, shouldn't be used as child soldiers and used as expendable bullet shields/suicide bombs.
Second, punishing/having it be socially acceptable to shame someone to suicide because they didn't want to let their comrade/teammate die
Third, He is stuck in a cave with Madara with no way out. The implication is that Madara is constantly blackpilling/chud posting him every day until Obito leaves the cave/returns. Not only that, but he put a curse seal on Obito so theres that.
Another thing Obito doesn't know about the Tsuki no mi killing everyone, no one except Hagoromo and Black Zetsu. For all intents and purposes, Obito sees it as him giving everyone good dreams while he stays awake (Remember the Host of the Ten Tails stays awake once the sleep is triggered). It's been shown multiple times that he likes helping people, so for him, who thinks the world is a shitty nightmare, this is him helping people on a planet scale.
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>>282832759
>Not only that, but he put a curse seal on Obito so theres that.
If Obito chose to return to Konoha would Madara still fuck him over, or would he wait for his next candidate?
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>>282832698
Are they actually? I remember a lot of snide comments and barbs exchanged between her and most of the others during DB. I can't imagine her fucking Vegeta going over well when it first happened either.

>>282832720
Like, even her,e it mostly just seems to be Krillin tolerating her because she's the reason the plot is moving forward rather than some banter between friends. Though DBZ Krillin is a lot more mellowed out compared to DB Krillin in terms of snideness, so maybe I'm wrong.
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>>282832759
That's actually a good point. He very specifically chooses to sacrifice himself as the only person in the entire world who won't experience the perfect reality despite being capable of experiencing that perfect life with Rin if he just completely submits to Madara and stays loyal.
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>>282832777
Madara is almost dead at that point. Hed definitely just kill him and pick Nagato as his puppet.
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>>282832783
He was just really chill here. Gave a kid Gohan vibe for contrast with the grouchy Bulma
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>>282832777
>Konoha would Madara still fuck him over
yes, Zestu would tell Madara what's going on and Madara would either curse control him back to the cave to scoop out his eyes or give him a heart attack or something
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>>282832827
Why is he such a cunt
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>>282829072
The man can't stop ENTERing
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>>282832777
If Obito arrived a second sooner before Kakshi fired his Chidori than Madara's entire plan would have fallen apart and he knew that. That's why he and the zetsu's perfectly set up Rin's death to mindbreak him.
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>>282832840
He realized he wasted his whole life fighting hashirama and got no bitches in the meantime while Hashirama got married and had kids.
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>>282832840
Hashirama chose to be a bro-con
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>>282832692
My point was more so that he doesn't really think of that event as a traumatic experience that showcases how the world is shit.
>"I was forced to kill a man at the ripe age of 12 to survive...one that could have had a family that will eventually go through either of our fates".
Instead, we get a million Flashbacks about how good Rin was and how she doesn't deserve this rotten world.
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>>282832759
>Second, punishing/having it be socially acceptable to shame someone to suicide because they didn't want to let their comrade/teammate die
This was good foundation for his goal and personality, but i don't think Obito ever thinks about Sakumo and his case after getting crush by that rock.
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>>282832843
I'm going to ENTER all right
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>>282828254
>>282828343
Why was Kishimoto trying to push Sai as Sasuke 2.0 anyway?
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>>282832940
He only knows how to write a single group dynamic.
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>>282832892
I mean people have already pointed out why, that was the final straw for him, and the only person he was genuinely friends with for longer than 30 minutes before becoming a crippled 12 year old. It holds the most importance in his mind because that's the one event that finally made him give up on the idea of just never giving up and always being willing to go forward and try his best. She was basically an illustration that no matter what he did, no matter how much he persevered, and no matter how much the person in question didn't deserve it, they would suffer and die because the world was a bad place. Of course he thinks about it a lot. Plus last I checked, this isn't even the case. He mostly only thinks about her when he's about to die, or when she's directly brought up by others. Most of the time he's going full insane "I hate the world raa!" Rhetoric like a chuuni 13 year old.
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>>282828901
Wonder why Viz went with The Foundation when they clearly have Root written here
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>>282832930
I think he likely points to all the tragedies he's witnessed along the way. While he might not think of Sakumo specifically, that event is probably something that became a justification in his mind afterwards. Bro was around the Hidden Mist when it was going full crazy, I cannot imagine he hasn't seen anything worse than that when he recruited Kisame, who's entire backstory is being the ninja his village used to murder his comrades when they knew too much.
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>>282829312
>Walk in
"Fuck you and the fox brat. Fuck Sarutobi too"
>Leaves
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>>282833005
He was feeling cunty that day.
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>>282832971
I was making a hyperbole there.
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>>282830548
never 4get
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>>282832892
I just chalk it up to Kishi being a terrible writer who can't stop fucking up his story
>>282832930
I would argue otherwise since Rin's death draws parallels to Sakumo's situation, where the leader wants to keep their teammates alive. Still, the teammate kills themselves to complete the mission(which is keeping the village safe). Why doesn't Obito bring this up or any other terrible events in shinobi history? I dunno Kishi's retarded or something
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>>282833085
Minato knew how to delegate work so he could teleport home and fuck his wife senseless every night
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>>282833001
>was around hidden mist when it went crazy

HE made it go crazy lmao. yagura was genjutsu'd, Obito made a murder village because it was easier to hide in if it was persona non grata. zabuza was just the high point of how nasty it could get, and tried to commit a coup because he couldn't stand just how evil it was.

one of the great Shinobi saviors of history was whatever hyuga had their eye stolen by Ao, who dispelled the jutsu and let the village finally go back to normal (after Yagura died and Mei took control)
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>>282833105
He's still mad he got cucked by Kakashi.
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>>282833202
It was called the Blood Mist BEFORE Yagura was Mizukage. He definitely didn't help matters, but they were already crazy mother fuckers before he ever stepped in. The hilarious thing was that it was all Madara's fault.
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>>282833202
speaking of the mist, how exactly do you genjutsu a host who's on good terms with his beast? How do you long term genjutsu somebody period?
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>>282833249
If I draw another chapter of women doing something stupid will you stop asking questions?
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>>282833249
Sharingan, man. Kishi doesn't have to explains shit if it's the Sharingan.
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>>282833202
>HE made it go crazy lmao
see pic related
>zabuza was just the high point of how nasty it could get,
Zabuza is older than Obito and Kakashi
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>>282833249
Yagura wasn't on good terms with the Three Tails until he met Naruto as an Edo Tensei.
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>>282833249
you're not supposed to be able to, esp given yagura is the first or second perfect ever, and obito doesn't even have tsukuyomi, but hey, uchiha hax

>>282833238
i don't remember that but I believe you. definitely got to its worst w yagura, but
given his interaction w Naruto, he's not a bad guy, so it's entirely Uchiha fault
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>>282831210
It draws from spiritual iconography, more specifically from gatekeeping deities like the komainu (or shishi) in Shinto shrines and the Niō in Buddhist temples, which flank entrances to ward off evil and protect sacred spaces. Typically, one has an open mouth uttering 'a' (あ), while the other has a closed one murmuring 'n' (ん). By inscribing these letters on the gates, the design represents this protective duality: the 'a' gate invites prosperity and allies, while the 'n' one seals out malice. Plus, 'a' and 'n' are the first and last symbols of the Japanese syllabary, so they basically symbolize the beginning and end, together encompassing all of existence.
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>>282833318
he's explicitly mentioned as one of the few who could control their beast and since he didn't have sharingan bs I assume it had to be on the up and up
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>>282833357
>>282833318
>>282833249
an anthology series about the noteworthy kage (yagura esp given he's a perfect jinchuriki, central to Akatsuki, and the first (of 3 total) jinchuriki to become kage) and the background of Akatsuki members would be cool. that and the fact that gaara, probably the youngest kage ever, didn't seem to improve significantly from Shippuden to getting owned by matsuri, are some of my bigger gripes
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>>282828569
Real estate is cheap in Konoha because of the declining birth rate, lots of empty flats left over from the Great Ninja Wars
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>>282833348
I wonder if other continents have kekkei genkai wielders fleeing the wiping out of unique clans that seemed to have gotten much worse once the village system was umplemented.
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>>282833357
Yeah he could control his tailed beast, but I'm pretty sure he tells Naruto that he wasn't friends with, or on good terms with the three tails until then. It's the difference between KCM 1 and 2. He just controlled his chakra at will, they definitely weren't friends.
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>>282829132
> I sure hope he's not too much of a pacifist like that pussy Hitler. Now if you'll excuse me,
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>>282833586
>Minato kills half the population of the rock village
>still doesn't get Danzo's support
Just how bloodthirsty is this guy?
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>>282833518
did their population seemingly triple in a generation to boruto bc so many horny women came to see Naruto and settled after he married?
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>>282833726
>Naruto
Is canonically ugly. They got blackpilled by Sasuke getting married then turning out to be a deadbeat.
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>>282833687
Genuinely, how the fuck does Rock even exist anymore after that? How was Oonoki not ousted? How did their Daimyo see half the military might of his Village die to a single fucking dude and not bend the knee immediately? Why did none of the other nations bumrush Rock after half their army got obliterated by a single dude? Konoha was in panic mode for MONTHS after Orochimaru invaded, and the devastation was undoubtedly a fraction considering all Orochimaru had was 100 jobbers, the Sound 4 and some snake summons.
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>>282833827
Naruto doesn't have realistic geopolitics. If it did the Daimyo wouldn't exist because all the Hidden villages would have exterminated their dynasties like Pain did in the anime, and take control of the entire country to avoid having to be forced into conflicts that were unprofitable for them specifically. Which is assuming they'd even exist by the time the Hidden Villages were set up, because a group of superhuman clans would be a horrific disaster waiting to happen for any regular feudal country in Asia let alone the Naruto verse.
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>>282833763
naruto canonically had so many girls coming that they had to barricade the city lmao. even the ones inside wouldn't give him a morning in The Last. also even Stacyno called him cute, sakura blushed at seeing him again, tenten is gay/only into neji so doesn't count, and Hinata was attracted, so basically every woman near his age was attracted to him at least for a moment
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How would you fix the Android Saga?
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>>282833893
Even then, it's weird that Rock is still around, considering how Kishi will just invent random places that used to exist but now don't for contrivances. Like that nation Sasori apparently destroyed, or the former Uzamaki country that just fucking dissolved.
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>>282833893
>Presidents wouldn't exist because all the generals would have killed him
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>>282834041
Like that nation Sasori apparently destroyed, or the former Uzamaki country that just fucking dissolved
But you repeat yourself.
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>>282833827
Because the Cloud Village probably involved themselves and said no to keep the Leaf and Sand spooks in check.

The Rock also had 2 Jinchuriki so they could fuck the shit out if the Leaf if shit got to nasty.
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>>282834066
Nobody voted for the Daimyo, though, and they're treated and act as essentially figurehead's the villages all unanimously follow and are basically forced to deal with while they actually handle the real shit. The Daimyo are only in power because they apparently hold all the wealth and for some reason, the ninja villages just allow them to do that because???
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>>282834034
Wrong thread
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Why do we have to be cursed with such a lame ass retarded racist faggot OP??
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>>282834151
>racist
That's pretty based
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>>282834151
>Cursed
Blessed. Dailyraman is /our/guy.
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The Cloud village could take over the whole world if they just focused on marriage diplomacy instead of military might
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>>282834307
honestly they could probably take over the world with just military might. Once minato dies nobody can really do anything about Bee and his bombs. That's before getting into how superior their kage and shinobi are
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>>282834066
This actually happens all the time in the real world with military coups, and this is without the generals being almost immortal with superpowers, able to defeat every single soldier working under them while no one else has superpowers
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>>282828224
How the fuck is retrieving Sasuke still something that's being considered by the higher-ups instead of just taking him out? What the hell is the plan after you bring the traitor back? Turn him into a breeding slave to bring the kekkei genkai back to the village?
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>>282834828
>This actually happens all the time in the real world with military coups
and that's exactly why presidents don't exist anymore
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>>282834877
I think you're trying to make a clever point but it really isn't working
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>>282834886
it worked
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>>282832843
Saving this for future ENTER usage
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>>282833309
Why didn't he just use Izanagi and undo her death?
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>>282833309
>OI, DON'T LOOK DOWN ON THE BLOODY MIST MATE
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>>282831546
Orochimaru is the one ninja with high functioning OCD who cuts the workload. Akatsuki kicking him out means it takes three days to seal a beast, Sasuke and Kabuto becomes terrorists, and the Leaf can't handle threats. He's weaker but he can use art of the Zombie to bust out the Hoksges. It's sacrificing Leaf ninjas that doesn't make him good
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>>282834869
Sasuke's doesn't have a high body count like Vegeta, isn't a demon like Piccolo, or hasn't committed terrorism.
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>>282834869
At least one of his goals would be accomplished that way
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From the little I remember of Sai, I think he’s a better teammate than Sasuke. His first impression of being an asshole is different from Sasuke’s, except Sai is actually engaging with them. Sasuke didn’t even want to deal with the others. >>282828205
>>282829132
>that vein
Like teacher, like student.
>>282829132
>Rooted
Hehehe.
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>>282828224
>him or her
KISHIMOTOOOOOO!!!!
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>>282828343
Gaara’s gay sand shake is making Naruto act even more like a homo than usual.
>>282829072
>I hope you assigned someone to this mission who wasn’t like your faggot dead teacher, who I still hate to this very day
Based Danzo
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>>282831769
>the only thing he learned during the timeskip was reverse sexy harem jutsu
>Practicing the jutsu that will save the world against an alien
>the epic foreshadowing in the early chapters of Shippuden
H-how did we miss this?
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>>282835490
Retard
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>>282835490
Kishi is a genius.
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>>282835490
>we
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>>282834869
Danzo wants to harvest those eyes
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>>282828972
>>282829072
>ENTER
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>>282831214
THAT'S MY HOKAGE
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>>282828205
God Sai looks so disturbing in the colored version just because of how pale he looks, dude looks like he’d burst into flames upon stepping outside
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>>282831715
Powermove Danzo
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>>282831769
You'd think he would've at least learned to do Rasengan without clones.
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what if tobi was actually madara and kabuto resurrected izuna instead
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KEK I can't believe Kishi made naruto miss his debut as Hokage and it was Konohamaru instead. FUCKING KISHIMOTO drew a little side story only to humiliates Naruto one last time. Masashi Kishimoto deserves all the hate and to be ostracized.
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>>282836176
Izuna died without eyes so he'd be useless to Kabuto and enrage Madara into squashing him.
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>>282836321
Naruto pretending not to be a homosexual to become hokage led to this humiliation and misery for all of them. Pretty based statement for Kishimoto to make.
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>>282836176
Why would Madara be shocked/worried that Izuna got summoned?
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>>282836321
In a way, Konohamaru is actually the real 7th Hokage since he was the one officially inaugurated.
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>>282836494
People give Ikemoto crap, but most of the mean-spirited stuff came straight from Kishi.
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>>282836610
probably because near the end it was clear Kishi was tired of the series and ready to work on his real magnum opus, but it ended fine enough to not draw much backlash. Ikemoto's stuff is just trash from start to finish so he has no goodwill built up
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>>282836610
The three hour gay video essay enlightened me to the post-war canon being the spitefully bad end timeline and I'm now cackling anytime I see a Hinata or Sakura post.
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>>282836610
>Ikemoto
At least he did one thing good that is make Naruto strong and using more jutsus.
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>>282836693
Link to the essay I want to laugh
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>>282833085
He handed all the paperwork to Hiruzen. Hiruzen never stopped being a hokage, Minato simply took over the seat, so it didn’t look like Hiruzen was the eternal Hokage.
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I still remember that chapter in the war arc where Sasuke showed up and Team 7 was finally "reunited" and then Sai appeared saying "I'm part of Team 7 too, guys!" and got blitzed by the Juubi in the next page and Naruto had to save him and was thrown back into the background.

There was literally no reason for this scene other than spite. Kishi dedicated entire pages to shitting on a character and then moved on with the story.
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>>282836755
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Yso05X06IJg&pp=ygUMTmFydXRvIHF1ZWVy
Naruto and Sasuke are not beating the allegations.
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>>282836774
>makes new character
>just to humiliate them
But why. Do you think he was pressed into making those characters in the first place?
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would Naruto have fallen for Fuu or Yugito if he had met them?
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>>282836765
real leaders don't do paperwork. That's what the staff is for. Minato was simply to competent for the setting and Kishi
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>>282828721
Orochimaru is omnisexual. are you forgetting what he did to Anko-chan?
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>>282829132
>never address the fact Danzo takes more from the Tobirama school of thought
>never actually try and make a real narrative about the contrast between Hashirama and Tobirama and their influence on future generations of Konoha politics
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>>282832256
as a female Kage, she has certain responsibilities.
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>>282829892
are you forgetting the Uchiha's ninja cat familiars who show up once, exposit the history of the Uchiha to Hebi, and then are never mentioned again?
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>>282830980
>Sakura giving her surname as if the Harunos are relevant
I get that surname goes first in Japan but it was a missed opportunity for world building by not having only the people from clans of status to introduce themselves with their family name first. Shitter nobody clans like the Harunos either don't specify or give their given name first. That's how I would've done it.
>I am Uchiha Sasuke
>I am Sakura Haruno
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>>282831110
Naruto is gay as fuck
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>>282829361
Edo Madara was set up pretty early. It was obvious pretty much immediately after Tobi claimed he was Madara that he wasn't actually Madara, and then when Kabuto showed him the mystery box it was meant to imply that Kabuto also knew Tobi was lying. (I thought it was Rin, kinda disappointed when it turned out to be Madara's real body)
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>>282831086
>people actually like Bulma
what?
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>>282832462
she's an Inuzuka

>>282832398
Oneitis, same as Naruto with Sakura
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>>282837194
you heard the man
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>>282832759
kid Anko...
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>>282837217
she had the occasional cute design but I've never heard of anyone outright saying Bulma is their favourite girl in the series. it's almost always either Videl or 18 (or Pan)
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>>282836793
>Nagato is queer coded because...He is okay?
>Haku is queer coded not a puer delicatus groomed by a psycho
>Take the Japanese sexual dysmorphism jokes as a lgbt propaganda
Comeon Im just 15 minutes and she/he/it is atleady calling everyone gay lol.
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>>282837427
Haku is definitely an allusion to kagema, Japanese catamacy.
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>>282837427
Konan, Yahiko's lover, puts his body in a mausoleum in comparison to Nagato puppeting his body around and living vicariously through it for 20 years tending to make some interpretations about Nagato that way.
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>>282837427
Dude, come on, Kishi gave his edo redesign fucking lipstick for fuck's sake. Design wise the other anon is right, but there's nothing in-universe that implies Zabuza made or even so much as suggested Haku wear the dresses. That was all Haku himself.
Not sure how Kishi got to what we got from what was originally a talking bear, but hey, shit happens.
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>>282834877
correct, there are no presidents of countries that can't controll their military
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>>282837634
>Kishi hates writing women so much that the best 'woman' in the series is a man in drag
lol
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How often do you think Danzo stops by Tsunade's office to remind her that he hates Sarutobi? I think he makes sure to pay at least one visit a day.
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>>282837756
Once an hour. He's a senile 70+ year old.
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>>282837634
Woah so inclusive of zabuza for leting his cinaedus wear a dress
>>282837594
The pain bodies were the most eficient way of using the 6 path powers though
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>>282837634
The lipstick was so unnecessary.
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>>282830980
i never liked sai. he doesnt deserve ino.
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>>282837756
Danzo was probably the one who told young Naruto that painting over Hiruzen's face on the mountain would make everyone think he's super cool.

>>282837803
It was a very odd design choice to add onto Haku. If it was there in his original appearance nobody would bat an eye, but the fact he added it to his zombie form is just bizarre.
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>>282837756
he does it once, then uses izanagi to make it that he didn't really tell her just so he can tell her again
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>>282837821
because it's sexy
He likes to leave his 'mark', if you know what I mean
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I fucking love Danzo bro.
Up to now, Hiruzen has been lionized from our main character perspective.
It's just interesting to have this bitter old fuck in a position of power who doesn't like the sitting leadership and is more underhanded.
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>>282831874
>I'd be more confused by this expression.
you know that awkward feeling when someone brings up a recently deceased relative you were close too, and you're positive memories of that person conflict with the sad fact that they are dead. that's how I interpret it.

kishimoto is really good at subtle expressions like that
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>>282829072
filler villain
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>>282831117
Isn't the daiymo supposed to be the one that keeps the hokage from getting too powerful?
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>>282829386
>Letting rival faction openly denounce you
It's like Tsunade wants to get couped.
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this and ROCKS are the best intros
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>>282833893
I think kishimoto stated that there are many coup
>>282834345
Gaara could probably stop them, onoki would still be a threat, hiruzen can seal him and the other villages could pay the mercenary group akatsuki to kill him
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>Have a Gaara like puppet that can manipulate poison sand
>Your enemies got fucked by your big iron sand attack
>Your enemies are now quite vulnurable
What do you do?
>A: Manipulate the iron sand to attack them again from range
>B: Fly your long range puppet into the enemy melee range to stab them to death
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>>282829072
Man loves his entrances.
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>>282838451
>vulnerable*
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>>282836869
It's absolutely true that selecting the strongest ninja of the village only to make him do paperwork, something he probably hasn't even studied how to do, is aweird policy
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>>282832759
>Another thing Obito doesn't know about the Tsuki no mi killing everyone, no one except Hagoromo and Black Zetsu.
Neither did Madara really.
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>>282837821
Kabuto thought he was a girl and should be at his best when he goes killing
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>>282833238
Actually Blood Mist began during Yagura's era when Obito started to manipulate him.
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>>282834075
The Uzumaki just went on to live on different places around the world it seems.
>>282834076
>The Rock also had 2 Jinchuriki so they could fuck the shit out if the Leaf if shit got to nasty.
Funnily enough the only two Jinchuriki there's no telling how they actually died unlike the othe 4.
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>>282838044
>t's just interesting to have this bitter old fuck in a position of power who doesn't like the sitting leadership and is more underhanded.
It's incorrect to say he doesn't, he just never really had the means to achieve it.
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>>282829132
>walks in, starts spouting classified info about black ops assignments
Come on man, at least open your eye and see there's someone right there.
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>>282838555
knowing Iwa's ties to Akatsuki, they probably willingly handed the two of them over.

speaking of Jinchuuriki, I wonder what Naruto would've thought of Fuu and Yugito. Given how attached he was to Gaara, how would he have treated them if he had met them instead?
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>>282835312
but everyone told me we always used "they" for unknown genders! We never used "he or she"! Have I been lied to?
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>>282838686
>ESL learns English has more than one way of expressing many concepts
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>>282838674
Yugito no idea, he probably would've befriended Fuu.
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>>282838773
given the emotional devotion, I think it would've been something more than just friendship
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>>282838771
so they DID use "he or she", thanks for the confirmation.
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>>282838805
nobody said they didn't.
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>>282828343
And people were seriously trying to pair those two during the manga. The only way they'll ever touch each other sexually is if Sasuke is involved.
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>>282838835
>implying it didn't happen during the blank period
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>>282830612
Thank you OP.
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>>282838830
yes they did, you would be surprised
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>>282831244
Not really, she was really loved, and even now she's still liked.
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>>282831522
>SARUTOBI OKAY'D
Despite he himself trying to gaslight us by taking responsability he didn't, he said
>Danzo don't do anything, I'm friend with Fugaku, I'll talk with him and try to reason
To wich Danzo answered with genocide.
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>>282838995
the uchiha scum had to die, even the innocent children
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>>282832504
>nobody but Rin even likes this motherfucker
That seems false, he was pretty popular, always helping the elderly and people around him.
But yes, the reason he did everything wasn't just wanting to see Rin again, but the fact he couldn't accept that someone so good died in the first place, so he declared both Rin and the world fake and decided the world could only be true when it was perfect.
He's childish.
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>>282838835
Naruto and Sakura are two sides of the same coin.
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>>282838920
no, the claim was always that "they" is a valid form of address for an unknown gender, not that it was the only form.
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>>282829312
>>282829132
based danzo THE HERO.
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>>282839090
Does it mean Naruto acts feminine or does it mean Sakura act masculine?
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>>282839344
why not both
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Greetings from /v/, Sasukecuck.
Canon and official btw.
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>>282839371
>fanart
OTP coming through
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Sakura x Naruto would have been healthier in the long run.
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>>282839397
>Neither of them would be home because Naruto is Hokage and Sakura works at the hospital.
Their kids would be raised by a nanny.
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>>282839397
How many kids?
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>>282839371
I was just there too this is a good thread
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>>282839397
only if Sakura actually grew as a person and came to appreciate just how much Naruto cares about her. But she doesn't. so Canon Sakura does not deserve Naruto and would be a bad match for him.
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>>282839485
>only if Sakura actually grew as a person and came to appreciate just how much Naruto cares about her.
She did both of these things, though.
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>>282828901
>no names, no emotions, no past, no future, there is only the mission
doesn't sound too different from regular konoha shinobi
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>>282839397
Kishimoto would leave small hints that Sakura cheats on Naruto with Sasuke.
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>>282828833
not only that, we know that there are talking ninja cats in this setting as well
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>>282839435
Three according to the Chad Shinachikuverse
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>>282839496
She didn't. she only ever felt sorry for herself because of the guilt from having begged Naruto to bring Sasuke back. It wasn't out of concern for him, it was concern for herself.
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>>282839552
Nope
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>>282839552
How do you know that?
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>>282839551
On topic of children of Mc’s. In Naruto’s case how do you write the story if Naruto and Hinata decide to have 6-7 kids? How do you avoid the problem of wanting every child of Naruto be relevant?
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>>282839551
Would this family let Kawaki in?
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>>282839551
what is this
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>>282831715
can't run the risk of readers siding with Danzo and his decisions, gotta make it clear he's a dick
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>>282839573
Sai literally tells her to her face that it's what she's doing, and she goes until turbo sulk mode over it and then decides to try and kill Sasuke herself
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>>282839582
Either I make Boruto the protagonist and the other as support characters with their own arcs and fights, or change completely the story making it much more episodic and with no true protagonist.
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>>282839582
why do they all need to be relevant? why do any of them need to be relevant? None of Hashirama's kids are, and only one of his grandchildren is. none of Tobirama's progeny are.
Look at DBZ, Goten is a nobody despite being the son of the protagonist.
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>>282839582
You don't want them to be relevant?
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>>282839582
If you were extremely successful in your profession and had around 7 children, maybe one or two would follow your footsteps and continue in the same career. Naruto could have a daughter working at Ino's flower shop, a son whose dream is to craft ninja weapons, some fucking nerd who wants to be a scientist. They don't all have to be ninja nor do they all have to be important.
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>>282839616
If Naruto had multiple kids, fans would want them all to have spotlight because of their relation to him. Early on before TBV, people really wanted Himawari to have spotlight like Boruto too. If there were more kids they would have the same responses.
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>>282829693
considering how recently the village was founded 3 years is a massive amount of time
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>>282839651
Nta, but honestly, with that many kids with some going their different paths, I would one of them should be a center for conflict like Sasuke and Kawaki, but instead pseudo-siblings, it's actually a real sibling.
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>>282839090
that's a weird looking vase konohamaru transformed into there
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>>282839659
>15m video called "THE HIDDEN POTENTIAL OF GORUTO!"
>with some pink haired oc holding a bloody Jigen by his skull
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>>282834066
Generals in real life are wealthy fucks born into a military family with connections who cruise thru military official school, never see direct action in their life and send poor niggas to die as meat grinder without care because they might as well don't be human beings to them, just numbers on paper.
Generals (Kage) are child soldiers who see their siblings and friends die, then send other child soldiers to die, and are apparently ok with this because?
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>>282838674
Yugito with her hair down would be so hot, but I don't think he's Narutos type or age group.
I'm so sad about what Kishimoto did to her.
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>>282840000
maybe in Europe. most American generals actually served, and more than a few came from broke nigga families.
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>>282834877
Nigga do you realize the President of any country is also Head of the Army?
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>>282840012
Naruto does better with older women
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>>282839616
>Goten is a nobody despite being the son of the protagonist.
The Buu Saga doesn't exists anymore I guess
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>>282839371
As per the manga Konoegi is the real deal.
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>>282840161
he failed at his mission and played second-fiddle to Trunks
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>>282839582
Himawari hasn't been super relevant for most of Boruto.
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>>282840193
She's becoming relevant in the timeskip.
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>>282840012
what's up with her lipstick
makes her look like a clown
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>>282840176
I wouldn't call someone who was part of the group effort that saved the universe a nobody, but you do you.
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>>282840247
Yeah now that she's a Jinchuriki she started to gain relevance but it took its time.
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>>282840012
Yugito is one of those characters that solely existed for lore reasons like a good bunch of kages of other villages.
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>>282840299
he factually did nothing except job. he was as useful as Piccolo in that battle.
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>>282840297
Yeah idk, the ai fucked something up.
>>282840313
It's a bit disappointing, how Kishimoto constantly teases world building, only to then tear it down again and make the world irrelevant.
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For me it's the second Mizukage.
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>>282840421
I like how he got so sick of the incompetence of the shinobi attacking him that he stopped trying to help them win and was kinda hoping they'd die
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>>282836321
it's funny though?
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>>282837085
You just made up rules for this jab Sakura, anon.
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>>282837085
Dumbest post in the thread.



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