Saw some reactions to this. Seems like serious yuri works like this would benefit from adding guys into the cast and not promoting themselves as lesbian. Too many people aren't even giving the show a shot because they see those tags or only girls and immediately lose interest.The guys shouldn't be love interests either. An older married male teacher who tries to get the MC to open up and represents her last human connection could work. Something like that.Just look at that previous gay monster show last season had some girls on the side and kept that weird ambiguity where people could convince themselves it wouldn't be gay. That one made waves whereas this one is not getting much traction.What does everyone else think?
>>282831466I think you should kill yourself
Kill yourself.what the fuck happened to /a/ man, everytime I think we hit rock bottom I get proven wrong.
>>282831635>>282831712What was offensive about my post? Was it the word reactions? Because I'm talking about the response here. Just look at how many people say yuri is a bad tag here:>>282816163
It's not gaining traction because the animation is shit
>>282831972Fundamental misunderstand of everything you're talking about. Fujoshi have more spending power than male yuri fans (who don't even have an insular community like fujoshi have), and women are narcissistic (think of fujoshi who draw their favorite male characters as women), so they don't mind female characters. It's simply annoying to be watching a cute girls anime and have to suddenly see an ugly old man
>>282831635fpbp
Why would I want to mingle with yurishitters like the ones that went apeshit to a reasonable post like the retards in this thread?
>>282832795Can't you watch the show outside of the threads?
>>282831466>>282831972>turbo bait console war tier thread talking about another bait /v/eddit thread that had a samefagging schizo in itOP is a fag as usual
>>282832951>console war tier threadWhat the hell man? Where am I shitting on anything?
It's doing well with the nips so far so that's all that matters desu. My only concern is that they'll take a while to get the good part, likely near the end of the season. Slow burns like this don't tend to grab people's attention without quality production.
>>282832991At the very least you clearly don't like yuri so I don't know why you concern yourself that other people also don't (when being niche in this era of the internet is a good thing)
This series is produced by a small production company which mostly produces yuri anime, Watanare was produced by Shueshia's production subsidiaries, so both marketing and production budgets are very different.Even so the manga was popular enough to get anime, why stop at just small changes if you want to appeal to other audiences? Turn the MC into a boy and give him a boy best friend who takes most of the on screen time, give it more fanservice, add shonen battles to it... this slippery slop never ends.
>>282831466OP, you sound like retard but you're not totally wrong. The most popular non-comedic yuri works of all time (Bloom Into You, Citrus, etc.) have all guys in the very first chapters. People want to act like the only thing holding yuri back is a billion dollar budget, but works like The Guy She Was Interested in Wasn't a Guy and Looking Up to Magical Girls became hyper successful with almost nothing and looking like shit in the later case.
>>282831466I think there should never be yuri shows
>>282831466>Too many people aren't even giving the show a shot because they see those tags or only girls and immediately lose interest.And that's okay. I do the same if I see a combination of these 4 tags:>Comedy>Romance>School>Source: Light Novel
>>282831466>>282831972Is this what people mean when they say "reddit spacers" are retarded tourists?
>>282834664Yeah
>>282831466>>282831972It's a shit genre for shit people. Who cares.You stay the fuck away from my straight romance series, and I'll stay away from your LGBT romance. Win-win for all parties involved.
>>282831466I think the males should fuck the lesbians and make them addicted to cock, and then leave them broken and confused.
>>282835595You cared enough to offer your two cents.
>>282835595You care
>>282831972>Just look at how many people say yuri is a bad tag here:So what? Just accept it’s a niche genre and move on. Geez, I don't understand this AW "I need what I like to be ultra popular" to the point of wanting to appeal to people who are obviously not interested. As long as there are authors and genuinely dedicated people, it’s fine
>>282835595As a fan of the manga I agree with this, no point in catering to an audience who aren't interested. The series was received well enough to an audience that matters financially to pump out 50 chapters and seems to be nearing the final arc. Doesn't need to be particularly popular to be considered successful. Wasn't entirely satisfied with the adaptation but I had fun watching it with my gf, she doesn't know what yuri is though. The tranquil yet depressing vibes of the manga were captured really well.
>>282835715if you know they like cocks I'm sure you would love cocks even more.
>>282835983>to the point of wanting to appeal to people who are obviously not interestedI'm not OP, but it's not about changing the content, it's about changing the perception towards the work early on. Obviously, there are people who will never watch yuri and there's no sense in appealing to them, but clearly there is a group of people who might be willing to give yuri a try if the first few chapters/episode don't turn them off.It's like with isekai. You can have all the amazing characters and worldbuilding you like, but if you show a videogame stat screen in the first five minutes, a lot of people are going to tune out before your work even gets to those parts because they've "seen this one before". You can still have a statscreen, but it should come after you've hooked the audience. Applying this to yuri, there are plently of people who might be willing to try a yuri series but otherwise don't or drop it precisely because they have a rough idea about what the average yuri manga is like and conforming to established tropes right away doesn't engender people to your work.>>282836225>she doesn't know what yuri is thoughDo you really think she would have sat down and watched it with you if you told her from the beginning that it was a lesbian romance show?
>>282831466OP, you don't understand the target audience of yuri shows on a fundamental level. We're talking about people who feel completely intimidated by the prospect of a typical heterosexual relationship because it reminds them of what they don't have and can't achieve in real life. Yuri shows are all about escapism for them. They offer the comfort of watching a romance without any of the complications. By including even a single male character, even if it's a tertiary character like an old teacher with barely any lines, you are destroying the illusion.
>282836661your twitter brainrot is showing
>>282836661>people who feel completely intimidated by the prospect of a typical heterosexual relationshipThis is another factor. Regardless of whether this stereotype is true or not (it's not, just read popular yuri manga), some people obviously believe this about the yuri audience. Therefore, when a yuri work does have a guy, even if he's in a minor positive role, these sorts of people think something along the lines of "oh this work isn't for the crazies, maybe I can enjoy it."
>>282836596>Do you really think she would have sat down and watched it with you if you told her from the beginning that it was a lesbian romance show?I mean the romance aspect is like 5% of the series at best. I just told her it’s about a monster girl who wants to eat a suicidal girl and their relationship because that’s what it is. I could get try getting her into Watanare to see if she throws up by the end of the first episode.
>>282831466yuri needs more men, i agree
Delusional self inserting newfags and schizophrenic retards should kys, ty
>>282837545or just leave them alone.
>>282836661Yet lots of popular yuri series have them, some of them even have girls who start in relationship with guys, unlike your romcoms where the girls are only allowed to ever love MC.>>282836740Unless you can prove this apply to a large enough paying audience (meaning your fellow transvestites do not count) which would be interested in a yuri, then you are just asking people to comment on what may as well be the voices on your head. Like some anons above pointed out, if you are going to start changing the show to pander to other audiences, there is zero justification to keep the yuri aspect which is the factor that most limits the outreach and not just change the gender of the characters.
>>282831466i want to see some FACKING yuri sex
>>282836661Only delusional shippers are like that. People that read yuri manga and light novels don't care if there are male characters. One of the most popular yuri light novels right now is one where a married teacher cheats on her husband with a high school girl.
>>282837670I legitimately don't know where you got the idea that twitter trannies are the ones asking for supportive guys in yuri. At most, the ultra progressives only want men in yuri insofar that they get ruthlessly shit on. In regards to popularity, just see how people like Joe in Green Manga.>unlike your romcoms where the girls are only allowed to ever love MCYou're unironically proving my exact point here. You have a fairly accurate assumption about the seinen/shonen romcoms that negativity impact your desire to read him. If I showed you one where the MC had a best friend with his own love interest, would you not be more inclined to read it?
>>282831466I dropped it because it looked like angsty drama shit. I don't think the show should be changed to suit me.
>>282837766>where a married teacher cheats on her husband with a high school girl.Why would you use that an example? I know it's a marriage-in-name-only, but you're just reinforcing his point that the yurifags hate men, just in a different way. You should point to the fact that Sendai's friend in Shuukura (the actual most popular yuri LN) dates guys or the Anis has a brother with his own love loli wolfgirl.
Are women disgusted by yuri the same way men are disgusted by yaoi
>>282838031I think they're more disgusted by the type of men they erroneously believe yuri is appealing to rather than actual lesbians.
>>282838031I understand yaoi is disgusting but yuri is actually cute and pure.
>>282836661>bait thread about yuri and men>complete schizobabbleSo how long until this schizo starts spazzing out about troons
>>282837859Oh no anon, you are misunderstanding what I am saying, there is just not enough people who would like yuri to begin with to have enough people to care about wanting male characters in yuri, you are just making a dubious claim based on nothing which you want us to accept without scrutiny.Any story which has characters will have people who like or dislike them, like for example Maki from Bloom into You, you are making a pointless statement, in the same magazine Watatabe is published you have Tenten, Apricot Fuzz and Seyuu Radio, all of them with male characters but also strong majority male demographics, only Tenten is popular, Seyuu Radio was even axed before the anime was announced and they brought it back and not it seems to be digital only with no more physical volumes.>You're unironically proving my exact point here. You have a fairly accurate assumption about the seinen/shonen romcoms that negativity impact your desire to read him. If I showed you one where the MC had a best friend with his own love interest, would you not be more inclined to read it?No you retard, romcoms are not the only types of heterosexual romance in the industry, they are the bottom of the barrel, you have plenty of seinen and shoujo romances that are much better, even so I never going to spend a cent on those like I do with yuri and there is nothing you can do to convince me to do so.Which is something you brain seems to be having a hard time understanding, the people who write works like this know very well they could reach other audiences if they changed aspects of the story, but they also not mentally retarded mongoloids who think the barrier is anything but the fact it's a yuri manga and they want to write yuri manga not other things. >>282837919He is a character in the story, now you are changing your narrative it's not about men but how men are portrayed.
Dyketards wormed their way into every fandom to push their paraphilia.I wouldn't care if they stayed on their lane, but they clearly didn't. Yurifags ruined Dunmeshi and Gundam fandom to the point of no return, and this is just few examples.So I say fuck you yurifags. You deserve nothing. I hope all your shit bombed and your fanbase filled with trolls.
Always the victim mentality with anti yurifags.
>>282838260Maybe you should send your post to BANDAI instead since they are the one who made a series with lesbian marriage as the main element tying the main characters.
>>282837545you gay, son?
>>282831972More people said isekai than yuri, the target audience is gonna watch a genre anyway regardless how people who dislike it feel. Episode 1 did well considering the limited resources the studio has.
>>282838260>blaming yurifags instead of bandai for g-shitSmartest Gundumfag on /a/
>>282835595/thread
>>282838260>Dunmeshihow is that yuri?
>>282838484He just wanted to add that for no reason.
>>282838484>>282838501NTA but I have read on /u/ delusional yurifags claiming elf girl totally moves on and is in love with another girl in the spin off, while the incel is obviosly a mentally retarded troon he is just upset about shipping
>>282838526>elf girl totally moves on and is in love with another girl in the spin off,source? iirc The creator seems to fine if yurifags are shipping them even though they're not canon anyway.
>>282838255My point isn't about male characters in particular. It's about the heuristics people use to quickly judge if a series is worth their time or not. My argument is that all-female casts are a shortcut people use to dismiss a lot of yuri series out of hand. Just like how some people drop romance series where girls only seem to love the MC for some inexplicable reason. And obviously many more factors exist, it's not the sole factor, it's just one that especially stands out when it comes to yuri.>the barrier is anything but the fact it's a yuri mangaI'm not under the delusion that everyone is open to yuri. Although, a series that gradually evolves into being yuri is probably going to convince people who would have never otherwise considered the genre.
>>282838536What do you mean, I just told you it's a delusion, people seeing shit which isn't there, no author is going out of the way to upset people if they are being obnoxious with him, especially when it's crystal clear who is the audience of the series and what they want to see.
>>282838031No and yes in that its considered a sin not to like it on the grounds of "if you dislike this then you dislike women and have internalized misogyny" but at the same time most aren't actually interested in it.
>>282838574ohh ok, I thought there will be a spin off lol
Imagine letting subhuman people dictate what shows you should enjoy and shouldn't enjoy. I swear, contrarians have to be the most insufferable cunt to walk the planetI swear, if tomorrow, Berserk, Dragon Ball, Death Note, Code Geass, or any of the franchises /a/ constantly foams about, was embraced by the troon community or the apes on shitter, every single person on this board would pull a 180. They will contradict what they originally liked and start saying shit like "the shows were never good" or "they're mediocre at best"
>>282838635>Imagine letting subhuman people dictate what shows you should enjoy and shouldn't enjoy.couldn't be me
>>282838570And my point to you is that the aspects you are trying to argue are so minor they will only ever matter to an insignificant number of people, it's just exactly like your argument about romcoms, all you are going to do is make people who dislike this read something else to hope you could get the attention of someone who would never read romcoms in the first place, it's nonsense, it's bad business, it's exactly what american comic books do and the american comic book industry is dwelling more and more each year because they fail to get new costumers and instead just lose what they have.>I'm not under the delusion that everyone is open to yuri. Although, a series that gradually evolves into being yuri is probably going to convince people who would have never otherwise considered the genre.And the reason you don't have those and please don't post the retarded /u/ chart currently in the general which completely misses the point is because the people who already buy yuri will instead spend money on something they don't have to wait for and the first thing your editor will tell you is that you are just risking losing your audience for a minimal gain.
>start watching yuri anime>sometimes wish i was a girlAm I gonna become one of them...?
>>282838871Yes, you are going to become a romcom fag or isekai fag since traps and gender benders are common in those.
>>282831466>Hear me outstopped reading there
>>282838526Your mistake is visiting and thinking /u/'s word, especially its general means anything. Actually yurifags there already left, or only post in the RR threads these days, and the general is left to be a tumblr/xitter colony.
>>282831466I don't give a fuck if no one but me watches this, they're already adapting it and that's good enough for me.I don't need a season 2 either since the anime is likely gonna cover my favorite part anyway.I'm worried about the animation and art for Miko's true form and Shiori, the monster designs were really captivating to me when reading but it seems they're using a bit of CGI in one of the PVs
>>282831466I have no problem with guys being in Yuri stories and acting as support for the girls but some people are really really against it even if the guys are completely asexual.
>>282838822Are you not familiar with a concept of a red flag? People will drop anime and manga series over minor stuff all the time. Refocusing back on the point, I've never really argued that we should change the content entirely. I've always advocated for cleverly appealing to multiple different fanbases at the same time. Take YagaKimi's first chapter: Yuu gets confessed to by a guy. Obviously, the people who like yuri that takes place in mixed-sex environments will be happy. But the hardcore fans are going to be happy too because the guys are nameless and faceless, thus signaling that guys won't be getting in the way of their relationship in the future (and that the work will be primarily focused on yuri).If you're right that this doesn't matter, then one should easily be able to imagine an all-girls YagaKimi where Yuu is into yuri manga and everyone confessing is a cute girl being just as popular. But AnoKiss existed at roughly the same time as YagaKimi and had the same advantages of appealing art and being published in a seinen manga yet it never got that popular.
>>282838308projection
>>282839269The reader is not idiot, the concept of a red flag only exist within the expectation a work will play in a certain way, NTR in a romcom is an example of a red flag and even so Kanokari is still one of the best selling romcoms, people definitely don't drop manga for "minor stuff" like you seem to believe.And this is what you are not getting, what I'm telling you is that your editor will call your approach bullshit and say manga publishing does not work this way, works won't magically appeal to different audiences because you made minor changes. Yagamiki was a popular work in Dengeki Daioh which has a very high % of male readers and this was the costumer Yagakami was promoted to and popular with, exactly the same consumer they promote Adachi and Shimamura to and every other yuri manga ever published in the magazine.There have been hundreds of battle shonen published in shonen jump which have all followed exactly the same formula and yet the majority of them was axed early on, you are just trying to make a nonsensical correlation between different works over some minor aspects which not only the industry clearly does not agree but the magazine itself that published the work in question clearly doesn't agree. Innovation, the quality or appeal of the work itself, the place where it's published, when it was published, marketing and factor which may influence public awareness (like social media or a popjlar figure) are things that will influence how a title sell.Yagakimi came in a time where yuri romances were still green and afraid of being direct with the reader, this was the major swift the yuri market had in the mid 2010s and which you easily observe everywhere else, not adding male characters. Yuri Hime had NTR Trap and the anime was a major flop, Citrus however turned into a major success over time, both with male characters in the cast, yet most YH works are not like this.
>>282831466Is this shit one of those Yuri blue ones or is it one of those with unintelligible symbolism?
>>282839586So all-girl YagaKimi succeeds just as much then? The fact that it has far more fans than Adashima was just a coincidence? The fact that other yuri romances came before it and didn't do so well are just a coincidence? You can dismiss my perspective, but it's pretty similar to Nakatani's own comment that she didn't want to make a yuri story, she wanted to make a story where the two leads just so happened to be both be girls. Funny that the first thing you mention is innovation; YagaKimi innovated by successfully appealing to normalfags not into yuri.>minor aspects>NTR in a romcom is an example of a red flagAn issue is only minor if you think its minor. If people didn't care about NTR, it wouldn't be seen as a red flag. Same applies for yuri is no men whatsoever.>Yuri Hime had NTR Trap and the anime was a major flopThe manga was an extreme success for its time but the reason why more don't exist is simple. Yuri Hime is for hardcore yuri fans and hardcore yuri fans want to see yuri-focused stories. My Girlfriend's Not Here Today would not be as successful in the current market it was My Boyfriend's Not Here Today, which would just a minor a change really.
>>282839109>I don't give a fuck if no one but me watches this, they're already adapting it and that's good enough for me.Based>I don't need a season 2 either since the anime is likely gonna cover my favorite part anyway.if the reste of the episode nail the tone and ambiance like the first one I would like another seasons tought.
>>282833938The thing is that Gushing over magical girls is that it is a different kind of Yuri to the shit you people are into.There are actually two distinct types of Yuri that should never be confused.And those types are literally this:1. Post ironic degeneracy with cute girls. This appeals to the male fantasy. Gushing over magical girls is a fun mess, its cute and funny and passionate.2. Serious Yuri like Citrus with lots of drama. Serious Yuri is just LGBTQ shit.Gushing over magical girls is not LGBTQ. The reason that it’s not that is that all characters who are homosexual in that show are literally the projection of a male fantasy. It is a show written by a man to gush over magical girls.It’s like how when you have a three some and have the girls make out in front of you then that’s not somehow gay lol.People can not understand the most basic things.On the other hand serious Yuri is completely homosexual in its essence. It frankly does not belong into the anime world, it should go back to the west where it belongs. It’s a sign of decay.
>>282831466>Hear me outNo
>>282839774First Dengeki Daioh Demographics are otaku not normalfags, you are the one assuming it reached a "normalfag" audience, for sure this is not the position Dengeki Daioh believed as seen with the next published yuri works. Second Nakatani comments are nothing different from the other hundreds of yuri series on the market, very few have an actual "lesbian" angle.Third you surely understand the "red flag" discussion becomes silly when it becomes whatever you want wherever you want, if you go to battle shonen thread and say the protagonist being a kid is a red flag to you then you will get called mentally retarded for using the word in such a silly way.Fourth, the manga was more popular than other works at the time in the magazine with the exception of YY and Citrus, but it definitely wasn't close to being as successful, I am honestly not sure why you think a story mostly about a girl molesting another girl and also comphat isn't a yuri focused story just because it has male side characters, and I think you are underestimating the market for stories like this when the very hardcore focused yuri LN market has the very successful Iruma's cheating LN.
>>282842304It's weird that you think I'm making anything to be a red flag when I've been very specifically arguing for this one since the beginning of the conversation. Obviously those whole conversation has been about this whether this specific one exists, which is obviously going to matter to the non-yuri audience of Dengeki Daioh or anywhere else>the manga was more popular than other works at the time in the magazine with the exception of YY and CitrusGoing by the recent print release numbers, all of them managed to get above 200,000 copies into circulation, which makes them roughly equivalent. And I'm not exactly arguing for realism here. If you're as much of a diehard progresive to use "comphet" in a sentence unironically (while accusing me of being a secret voice for trannies no less), then you have to know that YagaKimi's whole shtick of "the person I love just so happens to be a girl" is typically looked down by those same crazy types.
>>282844119No, it definitely exists for someone somewhere, the point is whether it exists in a quantity that would matter for the industry, this is why the first thing I said how this argument is pointless because yuri is just liked by a very small number of people to begin with.Comphet has been the core of many popular yuri manga, it has nothing to do with the lgbt nonsense you are trying to bring up, the description of many classics like girl friends is literally the main character dating a guy because she felt it was right thing to do for her to be normal, the "I don't like her because she is a girl" trope is viewed down nowadays because the romanticism behind it stopped making sense even in japanese society and is many people interpreted it as the author just avoiding to use the lesbian word.
>>282844781>it stopped making sense even in japanese society and is many people interpreted it as the author just avoiding to use the lesbian wordNotice how when it’s something you agree with, people can judge yuri by how much it makes sense and make inferences about authors who employ certain tropes. The same thing applies to improbably-female/gay settings. People expect that lesbians have some straight female friends, interact with guys at school or work, have to turn down the men who do confess them, and even have some past relationships with or past crushes on them if they’re into both. When there’s a lack of those things, people especially not familiar with the genre have to wonder why.
>282846043Anon, you are still missing the point, it doesn't matter what this community says, publishers and authors are still doing this trope and will likely continue doing so because they don't think it amounts to anything, which is the main point here, how many years have you been saying this? Has anything changed since then? No. Publishers just don't see this unicorn you are chasing, Kadokawa is green manga publisher, why don't you tell us all the yuri manga and LNs announced by Kadokawa?And honestly, even the series in question in this threads has the girls having straight friends and also interacting with male characters, the only series which usually don't have those are laser focused on the romantic interactions between the protagonists, how many YH series can you name which doesn't fit this?If you want to bring up awkward scenarios in japanese culture, male x female friendships are not common at all during high school and usually are assumed to be romantic in nature, this is why the childhood friend trope is so popular in romcoms, it gives the male protagonist a reason to be closer to a girl he isn't dating.
>>282846913>why don't you tell us all the yuri manga and LNs announced by KadokawaSure, we can talk about the most popular yuri manga and LNs. For manga, we have Green Manga where the protagonists are the only gay ones and have a supportive uncle and friend (who starts out hitting on them). We can talk about She Loves To Cook, She Loves to Eat which opens with the protagonist getting hit on by guys and having to deal with the expectations guys out of them before the yuri even starts. We can talk about the ShuuKura LN where Miyagi/Sendai are the only gay ones and their straight friends keep trying to match them up with girls. We can talk about TenTen which has Anis dealing with her brother and father in the first arc. We can talk about Iruma’s most recent LN which is about a teacher cheating on her husband. Sounds like the most popular of yuri manga have plently of guys in them and (unfortunately to echo a certain someone) a lack of 3girl love triangles.And no where did I bring up girls being friends with guys.
>>282847327No, I asked you to take a look at all yuri manga and LNs kadokawa has announced since they started publishing green manga, which are a lot, you will see almost none of them have the same type of interactions green manga has, if any notable male character at all. The publisher does not share this belief you have they can increase their audience this way, whether the series has male characters or not just depends on how the author feels about it. And this is my point to you, the popular series all have several volumes, you will struggle to find one where there are absolute no male characters anywhere, Sasakoi has them, Watayuri has them, Watanare has them, Bad Girl had them as background characters, same will happen with Shuukura.No, you brought up people feeling weird about the dynamics in yuri series, when the truth is that most excuses manga bring up to get girls and boys together are often as unlikely because japanese fiction is mostly just a very romanticized version of japanese society.
>gay argument still continuingNo one who read any of those popular stuff give a single fuck about the men in the storiesMaybe not the green manga fags but they are all tranny
>>282831466You can’t make me care about lesbians. They might as well be obese black and disfigured. An unfuckable girl is as relevant to me as nail polish and make up tutorials. There’s plenty of other shit I don’t understand that’s actually interesting, for example in the CGDCT formula there’s often a central activity that a guy with an engineer brain can get into. Sappy dyke drama might as well be a story about period pains. No idea how you people suffer it. Doesn’t help that yurishit is hazardous toxic waste for any online discussion.
>>282848011Who says those are to increase their audience? It seems to me that most of those LNs are designed to strictly appeal to the moderately sized yuri audience rather than gain new ones. If you want a comparison, just look at the isekai genre. Most are made for diehard fans of the genre, and as such, Kadokawa doesn't put much money behind their anime adaptations. Yet there are still plently of ones that do big budget adapations, almost like Kadokawa has a general idea about which ones are going to be popular.>most excuses manga bring up to get girls and boys together are often as unlikely because japanese fiction is mostly just a very romanticized version of japanese societyThe difference is those people understand the rules of fiction required for the genre function but don't have the same charity to the yuri genre.
>>282831466> Too many people aren't even giving the show a shot because they see those tags or only girls and immediately lose interest.Who cares? The series is made with a specific target in mind. Trying to cater to a larger audience by making compromises that would be disliked by the core fans of these type of shows will please absolutely no one. Do you think shonenfags who masturbate thinking about the power level of their favorite one-dimensional, cartoon protagonist will care about a romance drama with a lesbian protagonist if they added a married male teacher?
>>282849331The point is they are not trying to follow up Green manga success at all, they don't recognize what you are trying to claim here. No one is trying to make a yuri series more approachable like you wonder and I am not even talking exclusively about male characters, they probably just crunch the numbers and most likely reach the conclusion that the effort being put into doing something like this would be better spent off in making a non yuri title to begin with.>The difference is those people understand the rules of fiction required for the genre function but don't have the same charity to the yuri genre.This is just victimism, people don't think about the yuri genre at all.
>>282849648People think about the yuri genre and how it's different from the romance they're used to when they see/watch yuri works, obviously.>no one is trying to make a yuri series more approachable It's generally the individual creators in charge of making stuff. When it comes to huge, multi-media projects that's obviously not the case. Just look at G-Witch. They didn't make all-girl yuri Gundam.
>>282849929If they got to this point they just don't care about any of this. Bandai just took the standard approach with yuri but just gave a confirmation ending skipping any intimacy, which is what I have been telling you, if they are going to change yuri to appeal to a broader audiences, they are going to realize the core of the issue is the yuri itself.
The delusional self inserting newfag and schizophrenic retard spazzing out about Yuri should still kys, ty
>>282831466>>282831972It's gay shit. Don't watch gay shit. Don't defend it. Kiru yua serufu
>>282831466>Too many people aren't even giving the show a shot because they see those tags or only girls and immediately lose interest.And thank fuck for that.
>>282831466In short, you just want to see male characters in yuri anime so you can self-insert, right, faggot?
>>282850604It's true that big companies are going to change the content of yuri to appeal to broader audience as it clearly works to some extent. That's why if we want to preserve specific tropes that we as the yuri audience enjoy like all-female casts, individual creators need to creatively frame those ideas to make them more palatable to a general audience. The goal is ultimately to get the non-yuri audience used to them, as otherwise, those wishing to make popular yuri will look to what normalfags want rather than what we want.
