The J is still the strongest antagonist of the franchise. How come no one could surpass his glory? Is he really the absolute peak?
The J is an irrelevant, one off villain who got mogged hard in the Manga. Piccolo can even beat him kek
>>282856529>Toriyama came up with Bejita's transformation that literally jobs to power up before he diedFunny
>>282856550Even on his last breath, Toriyama made sure to shit on Bejita one last time. Fucking legend.
Curry OP
The MoeGODs are making fun of us again!
Her chance to shine.
>>282856550>>282856569No, Toriyama's last actions were having him defeat Goku and giving him SS3 and a cool win. Nice try though, retard.
>>282856668He's so desperate to push his autistic little narratives kek.
>>282856668Toriyama hated vegeta and made sure to make him the joke character every chance he got. Super Hero was Toyo and Toie
>>282856644I would love if it turned out that Ox King could go beast the whole time
>>282856870*crickets*
>>282856668>his last actions was some throw in scene, in a movie that they weren't even a part of and giving Bejita a transformation Goku got 30 years agoWow Toriyama definitely respected Bejita
>>282856876Nopearoo!
>oooo Goku always wins, let me make a FUNNY where Bejita wins for once in some post credits scene in a movie about Gohan because I'm an unserious gag mangaka now
>>282857021Toriyama called Goku number 1. Congrats on Bejita getting lumped with Piccolo on some power ranking tho
>>282857040Remember that bejita still falls flat too and they were not allowed to transform, since Bejita didn't have Ultra instinct
>>282857071Maybe Bejita will get Ultra Instinct in some 20 episode side series in 2055
>>282857021What would a Bejita series be about? Him folding Bulma's laundry?
>>282857021>It is stated on Vegeta's article that In an interview featured in Daizenshuu 2, the creator notes that Vegeta is one of his least favorite Dragon Ball characters, but that "he was extremely helpful to have around."Bejita was only kept around cause his retardedness helped move the story forward.
>>282856474>ToP ended in 2018holy shit lads
>>282857062Missed the Point Again Award
>>282857140Him beating irrelevant side villains no one cares about before Goku shows up to fight the main one
>>282857071ah so it's like how midlife crisis "won" against Goku in Buu arc
>>282857152I think the point is the creator point blank said Goku is the strongest/coolest/#1.
>>282857157What if Bejita fights the pains of raising a daughter in today's wacky world?
>>282857218>>282857225
>>282857206>comedic sitcomSounds cool desu. Because Bejita is a joke.
>>282857255He would have his Toriyama approved mustache, naturally.
>Bejitabros get so mad they resort to pornWe win again Goku bros
Gents...
Why are Gokubros like this?
>>282857277>Implying the one spamming that isn't a Gokufag
Goku bros only post images of Toriyama talking about how Goku is number 1
>>282857109Ultra Ego is and was always cooler.
Gentlemen, Call to Action
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/282736522/#q282789823https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/282736522/#q282789834https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/282736522/#q282789846https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/282736522/#q282789904https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/282736522/#q282789921
Why was Goku so muscular on Namek then lost it
>>282857382>>282857383no one is posting cp
>>282857382>>282857383get fucked you lying nigger
>>282857400heart virus stole his gains
I will make sure the Feds starts to investigate these threads now and this entire board. No more filthy and subhuman child raping content.
>>282856529>toyo created a dogshit arc on his own>with senileyama's help he made an even worse arcHow exactly is this newsworthy?
Count your days Bejitabros...
>>282857492take your meds
Yo someone put on Yoka Yoka Dance I want to party
No more.
>>282857624Let's not make wild accusations against good members of the community. That doesn't sound like the Pinny Winny I know.
The Halls are peaceful now. Let's discuss the franchise again.I think the "Cooler Force" thing looks too good to be true. The art and design doesn't convince me very much. Why is Trunks there anyway?>>282857734You will fall under investigation too for not properly doing your work. Now, cease your offtopic trash.
Enough!
>>282858012Proof?
>>282856928Really good for foreshadowing
>>282858121Funny. God, saiyans are pathetic.
>>282858162>Jiren pushed out of bounds after fighting Goku, Vegeta, Frieza and 17 alone. All of them at full power.>DOGly couldn't even fight a fusion and BEGGED Shenron to save him since he was about to dieNopearoo. Jiren is stronger. And Nuly didn't even face Ultra Instinct.
Jiren is stronger than Broly but weaker than Moro
Jiren faced:>Goku Super Saiyan Blue, Ultra Instinct Sign and Ultra Instinct>Bejita Super Saiyan Blue and Super Saiyan Blue Evolution>Android 17>Golden Frieza>The Supreme Rules of the game that didn't allow him to kill anyone, fly or leave the arena>Berserker Kale(wasn't even a fight)Nuly faced:>Goku Super Saiyan God and Blue(No Ultra Instinct forms)>Vegeta Super Saiyan Blue(No Evolution form)>Golden Frieza(that tanked everything for hours nonstop. Jiren literally put Frieza to sleep fast)>Gogeta SSB(without anything beyond SSB. Barely a fight and one sided)>No restrinctions, rules, etc. Fight to the death.>Begged Shenron to escapeI rest my case.>b-but the fusion is stronger...Pure headcanon without any evidence to backup.
Who cares?Beerus is still the strongest in U7 and stronger than Jiren.2nd place is irrelevant.
Jimmy surpassed WEAKrus btw.
>JimmyWeaker than Timmy
>>282858398If you go to this route then you have to count angels and Zeno too. Jiren is a beast while being really young, compared to other GoD that are thousand years old.
>>282858421>JimmyJobs to Dexter.>>282858451>TimmyAlso jobs to Dexter.
If Toyo had good taste Kuririn would beat Black Freeza.
Our heroes... and muttkima.
>>282858421
>>282858514MY HERO BOBOBO APPLYING THE KINNIKUBUSTER ON THAT MOEVERMIN BITCH????I KNEEL!!!!!
Evil Scientist Goten
>B-bejita-san I...>Don't say it, I already know. I always knew, Kakarotto-kun...
>>282858917KBC
RR Army masterminds: Bulma
>>282858917Gine X Bejita’s mothers
>>282856668>and giving him SS3Raging Blast already did that over a decade ago. You know, during that period of time where Toriyama had nothing to do with the franchise?
>>282859264Raging Blast did it better
>>282856474"The J" stands for jeetnigger
>>282859672>onepiss
>>282858748Truth fucking nuke
>>282857021That faggot is the only one who hates Vegeta. The people that actually matter love him.
>>282857071>were not allowed to transformMeaning Vegeta is the better fighter. Keep coping though.
>>282860367True. Shitku is a clown and needs a clear power advantage to defeat anyone.
>>282856474>The [Last antagonist of an arc] is still the strongest antagonist of the franchise.That's crazy bro. Cell was also the strongest at the end of his arc and look at him now
>>282859264I don't know why Toriyama even bothered. He clearly lost his touch a decade ago.
>>282857789Part of me really wants Cooler Corps to be real but I also know it'd be pretty stupid. Like Cooler, Turtles, and Slug all team up and Turles and Slug are comfortable with Cooler being in charge?
Divers WILL save us btw.
I like the idea but the hair is too short in the show.
>>282856474
Kid Goku is... weak...
>>282861720>needed truck-sama to win
>>282856503True. Jiren has been surpassed by many people now.The strongest is GODly and always has been.
>>282861733...in every cuckold competition.
>3 eyes>4 armsIs Tien an alien??
>>282861786The strongest human
WASHEDren the IRRELEVANT is only propped up by like 3 nolifes on /a/
What changes would Omni King Goku enact on the multiverse?
>>282858385>Fanfiction formsDone.>Golden FriezaDestroyed physically and mentally.>Crying over fusionsStronger than UI, which Goku knew.I rest my case.
Why didn't Tien use this against Piccolo?
>>282861841More waku waku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJfpW7TAlfE
>>282861823...after krillin
>>282859264why is Raging Blast 2 so good?
>>282861720Goku tanked all of this btw
retroactive power scaling puts uub > jiren
>>282861848>tourNECKment announcer
>>282862341Every DB game should have what if forms.Gohan Black is STILL not playable btw.
>>282862574Uub is weaker than my shit
>>282862676Your shits would kill jiren
>>282862668Use mods. You're never getting what if kino. This franchise is soulless.Gohan black IS playable in the game but they lock it off so you have to use a mod to select him
>drink secret water>get bullshit power-upWas this undeserved?
>>282863001proto zenkai
>>282863001DB was full of 80s cliches.
>>282857383If it's real, they need to post more leaks, I'm not sold on it yet, why those characters specifically? And where's Goku and Vegeta, lol, THE MAIN CHARACTERS.
https://youtu.be/MywdHFMv6wo?si=OQif65BBk4MtzslLDBS 2 looks sick
>>282863859
>>282863739Because it's fake as shit. Sone Indian AI generated some garbage and is now shilling it here. Tell him to fuck off whenever you see him talk about his scat.
>>282861289
what the fuck happened?
>>282857021>>282857040Might as well have a Gine spin off.
>>282859264>>282861108>>282860434Evolution broke him.
>282864890This is also that very same Indian. He's shilling a MasakoX (Team Tranny Star) fanfiction.
>>282861706Fasha Jr
Bejitabros... this is our national anthemhttps://youtu.be/D5uspug_9OY?si=JwmK2NZBgym0RVPF
This is what Daima took from us
>>282864881Shitper ruined Mirai Bulma
>>282864938kek canon eventhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QpY2lisbjc
>>282865014No way, schizo.
>>282865237Actually? I don't wanna even look at that board desu.
>960
>>282865417I have already killed multiple JIrens in the past from different universes.
>>282864890based
>>282865417YOU ARE ALONE
>>282863037What if Chi-Chi have three zenkai power?
>>282865115Its scary when Broly starts speaking English.
>>282865910Halloween theme insert*
>>282856529>toyotaro made the best post-Z arc on his owntoriyama really was beyond washed. i wonder how involved he really was during goku black/top because those arcs were also a lot better than the dogshit that nuly/super hero/daima are
>>282865115Cell would lose and the Z Fighters would jump in to help him. They all beat Broly and Cell realized the Z fighters aren't that bad and becomes a good guy. Cell then helps out with Buu and gets a golden form in Super.
>>282865996Does King Cold "black" happen?
>>282856668Toriyama didn't even design that form. That was 100% Toei.
>>282865671Terrifying moments.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q6UAoxScBshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUl5m2z0mBc
>Toei>Shueisha>Toyo>Capsule Corp Tokyo>Bandai>Bird studiosWhat if none of them wins and the DB rights go to /ourguy/ Geekdom?The franchise would be saved for sure.
Same people behind cha la head cha la!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhtMq1KHL0U
poo
>>282866020>>282862341SSJ3 initial concept was included tails later reuse SSJ4 form.
Anon-kun afraid of Mr. Popo
>>282859264>>282856668Ascending beyond super Saiyans.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_VHA7Sfrew
>>282866730No one wants that...
>>282867148Ewwwwwww. Never post again.
>>282867148
>>282867259Cringe reddit memes
>>282867259InviciGOD... we kneel...
>>282867307>Cri-ACKSilence Nappa lover. The real powerhouses are talking.
>>282867409>>282867342>t. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHeEKDIH4iY
Leave SHARTvincible to me.
Son Goku will never be the strongest. I don't say this because I like Son Gohan, Vegeta or Broly better and I like the guy as much as anyone. What I mean by that is that Son Goku will never be the strongest because if he does become the strongest, then his story ends because then he's reached the end of the road and the people behind that IP will never let that happen. Why? Because you can't farm and milk out an IP with a finite story. Dragon Ball's writing philosophy with its power escalation and the next villain being stronger than previous one will never allow Son Goku to become the strongest. Let it sink in that he hasn't Beerus or Whis for a decade and he still hasn't as of yet.Sun Wukong's story ended with him achieving enlightenment and becoming the "Victorious Fighting Buddha." Son Goku, who's loosely based off after the Monkey King, will never reach that point because a finite story means you can't further invest on an IP.Son Goku's story can't end with victory, only with continuation. He’s the hero condemned to almost win forever.He is Sisyphus with spiky hair. Every time he pushes that power-scaling boulder near the top, Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro shove it back down and say “Nope, more forms, more enemies, keep the cycle going.”
>>282867148Waifu thread.
>>282863001The pedo prequel is fucking garbage, anyone who says that it is better is purely talking out of their ass>goku arrives in new location>hyped up villain immediately jobs with no fightThe only good parts are the tournament arcs because in those goku "loses" (but it shown to actually be stronger and lost by chance or technicality)Piccolo arc is the only half interesting arc
>>282868018Hes the strongest at the end of Z.
The prince of all saiyans is the strongest at the end of z.
>>282868707
>>282868635Goku wanted to train Uub so he could have a real fight again. Another indication hes the strongest in the universe at the end of Z. He doesnt even want to fight Beerus anymore indicating he already far surpassed him and Uub has more potential than Beerus.
>>282869052Lol that sounds like broly not uub. Beerus is still unsurpassed btw.
>>2828689995000 rupees
>>282869272Beerus is the weakest GoD.He got surpassed by other GoDs like the rat and Angels.The Dragon God is also probably stronger than him.
>>282868018What about the fusion forms? Surely it's okay to let Gogeta be the strongest for 30 minutes
>>282869630Goku vs the red ribbon army still remains the highest rated arc of dragon ball anime.
>Dragon Ball doesn't... >>Pretend to be deep >Unlike Chainsaw Man. >>Doesn't preach >Unlike Naruto, MHA and Demon Slayer with their moralfaggotry. >>Doesn't pretend to be intellectual >Unlike Jujutsu Kaisen. >>Isn't uninspired garbage >Unlike Black Clover. >>Isn't shit >Unlike Bleach. >>Isn't too long >Unlike One Piece. >To this end, Dragon Ball (and Fairy Tail) is the king that stands above all.
>>282870108Goku said this?
>Bejita ssj3 equivalentAre we gonna talk about super baby 2 lacks an eyebrow?
>>282870100>Saiyaman that high
>>282870108>>282862170Pan innocents…
Why is this thread targeted by degenerates that post cheese pizza
>>282869510Giving Frieza alternate colors when the fun of his species is the different form designs was a huge mistake. Gold should have been Fifth Form, but the early 2010s era of DB was terrified of losing a single penny by taking a risk.
>>282870638Because /dbs/ was a chaotic shitposty general where everyone pushed boundaries, and once it was banned the most insane posters crashed out. Many such cases.
>>282870659Frieza already had monstrous forms before his final form, going back to a more monstrous form with spikes and armor wouldn't make sense
>>282870730Then scale him down further and design a new 5th formThe issue is that his power ups now are just changing colors which goes against the design philosophy of Z.
>>282870659>>282870730His golden form should have been more regal. While Black Freeza should have been the more monsterious battle focused form. Its Freeza not really giving a shit about what the form looks like and is optimizing it for pure combat after realizing the flashyness of the Golden form is pointless and could be optimized.
>>282870841This sucks.Toyo perfected Frieza.Black is better than Golden, Final Form Frieza and Final form Cooler.
>>282870265We all know that's what it was.
>>282871162>Toyo perfected Frieza.hahahahahahahahahahaahahaha
>>282870841>>282870659Nothing beat the goated form.
>>282870730Ok but it's cooler, which is all anyone cares about at the end of the day.
This is what the people want.
>>282871287Probably would've worked out better for him against Toppo than if he stayed a manlet.
>>282871342LMAO
Combine Golden with the Fifth form.
>>282871385>son keku lost to Gero’s ultimate bio-weapon
>>282871451Where did you get this picture of me
>>282871492>Wicked Cooler returned from dead zone (hypothetical Yardrat arc)
>>282871162No it doesnt. It makes total sense too. Freeza makes his Golden form flashy and impractical and then fixes it with his black form which is more combat oriented. Toyo's Black Freeza is just Freeza with Black on him. Makes transforming almost feel pointless. Why not just make it his final forms power instead and get rid of the forms if they aren't going to change in a meaningful way? >>282871249Nah Freeza's tranformations shouldn't look anything like Cooler's, ever. Takes away from both of them. They should be able to stand out next to each other.
>>282871583You’re grey poc hahaha
>>282871641Muttly would never do that to our Queen...
>>282871641RIP Kakaroettehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeZbXggn0uc
Everyone is wrong. Since Cooler's transformations looks like Predator Freeza's should look like Xenomorps like his 3rd form. Black Freeza would have looked sick with 3rd Form Freeza's body as a base.
>>282871641why would nagatoro be scared? she knows judo
>>282871723I thinks of Shredder design.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbLzIEqmsGk
>>282857519at least it’s not Grand Taco
>>282871723>>282871760The only thing similar about them is the use of a mask.>>282871773This. Nothing is worse than Grand Turd and Daipa. Both brownoid shows.
>>282871810Pokemon is everywhere.
>>282871641>implying shartly has what it takes to win
Well?
>>282871342This is the best DBS scene.
>>282871868Fuck off you fecaloid.
>nagatoroHang on...We don't even know this guy..
People want HIM.
>>282862341You know, I really like Sparking Zero and I think that it just need a small adjustment to be as good as Raging Blast 2 at least. But the devs are retarded.>>282857519My faith is now stored in Torishima training Toyotaro to be a bette author.
Who the fuck cares about Frieza and his race's forms...
>>282871989This is fucking brown.
>>282871989Who is this?
>>282872011SZ really just needs more to do like the BT2 story mode or at the very least a better tournament mode and it would be a much better experience. However just discussing this here is sure to trigger some schizos
>>282871894Gokhan too op
>>282872110What schizos?
>>282871744It's the nigger who keeps shilling DBM.
Bejita…
>Tranny Fart Shart
Soul of Darknesshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE29TpRjPOE
>>282871989You mean HIMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudIvkmJUUI
>>282872179Son Bra, I…
super season 2 when?
>>282872432Around 27-29’
>>282872179I only got here, secondly, DBM is the premium version of the DBZ universe, the fact that it's only discussed to this extent on this board, begs to question the sanity of most of it's users, how can they regurgitate some convoluted lore from the original series ad infinitum while a superior version lies before their eyes? Better artwork, better story, better characters, all of this is undeniable.
Lord Paragon is the best OC a fan has ever created.
DBM poster here, I haven't done it in a while since the current chapter is about Uub and honestly no one gives a shit about him so I didn't bother.
>>282872556Go away, Lord NIGGERgon.
ENTER
Is it too late to draw porn of Launch?
>>282857140Probably a story that takes place before the Majin Buu arc that details the part of Vegeta's character that went all ''i dun wanna foight'' to wanting immediate smoke when he heard Goku's coming back for a tourney. It could be a neat short story that shows Vegeta getting some motivation to keep training.
>>282873031EXIT.
Cooler Squadron is coming in July 2026.
>>282873069She already 51. Pass the wall.
>>282873253I don't trust you.We only trust Geekdom.
>>282872179Why won’t GT Bulla ever training?
>>282873549She wants to be a slutstacy like her mom instead of a lame mary sue.
>>282872474>DBM>Implying it's of any qualityKill yourself Salagir>Shit headcanonshttps://files.catbox.moe/jbzwm0.png>Unironically traced arthttps://files.catbox.moe/63hodj.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/1fjyo3.gif>A story so shit everyone on the internet called them shit multiple timeshttps://files.catbox.moe/83m7t2.jpg>Mary sue characters galoreFuck off.
>>282873784Holy shit what a disaster.
>>282873549Why won't you learn how to actually speak English?
>>282856474>>282858385Zamasu victim>B-butZamasu victim
>>282873716E-thot okay but not Z-fighters?
>>282873784Tracing is a problem compared to super, how? At least the concepts are original, story is concise and much more complex than anything in the original and somehow the author is capable of not memory wiping before the next chapter begins, multiverse is written 10 times better than Dragonball Z and a 100 times better than Dragonball Super and you'd have to be a mentally challenged person not to see it
>>282873886See>>282872074
>>282873957Yes.
>>282873784They put za warudo sound effect?
>>282872474If you're seriously implying that the abhorrent "art" of DBM is better than the original manga's you NEED to kill yourself.
>>282872474absolutely based
>>282873962>multiverse is written 10 times better than Dragonball ZYou were hit in the head a lot as a child weren't you
>multiverse is written 10 times better than Dragonball ZRetarded frog.
>>282873962Because Super tries to be in the spirit of Dragon Ball. Salagir is on record saying he "wants to go beyond shounen" and "dragon ball isn't about the fights". Legitimately fuck off. You are a retarded tourist. Try to make your way to the /vg/ thread.>multiverse is written 10 times better than Dragonball Z Shotgun. head. Multiverse is written like shit. Need I remind you about your mary sue, Son Bra? Advertising is against the rules. The last PEDOverseBROWN got banned.>>282874158This. The paneling is worse than Toyo's and the art isn't anything special.
>>282874259I think Toyo's manga looks like shit for the most part but even it is significantly better than DBM. DBM has some of the worst art I've ever seen, especially for something that's trying to be DB.
>>282874248That not Pikkon smug here.
>>282873940>Zamas-AAAAAIIEEEEEE NOOOOOOO!!!!
>>282873962>multiverse is written 10 times better than Dragonball ZSalaqueer, shilling yourself like this is not a good look for you. Your shitty little fanfiction is a well-known laughingstock, be grateful for that.
>3886Is he just calling every single post against him Anglo now? Is that all he has left?
>>282874481
...the jobbing contest.
>>282874530
>708>he's still going
Baby fucked Bulma good.
>>282874662>the Battle Royale was supposed to have made Goten want to get back into training. That's what everyone wants. But sorry, I'm not 13 anymore and the DBZ of training is over for a long time for me. I'm trying to stay in the DB spirit, but also remember that Goten, Gohan and others were never interested in training, and I'm not going to use any excuse to get them back into it. Furthermore, "training" to resolve a situation was the shonens of 20 years ago and I'm looking to go a little further.Suppose he was correct?
>776>he's still g-ACK!!
>>282874708>IESLBIt's that fucking easy.
Reminder that Frieren beat UI Goku, UE Bejita and Gas without even going 100%That mf was raping everyone in his base form using may be no more than 10% of his power.
>>282875143He doesn't need to bulk out to go 100% anymore. That's a waste of energy and he's realized that. He even tricked Frost into doing it during the ToP just to humiliate him and then BTFO him.
>>282874777Can someone explain the context of this image to someone who hasn't watched GT in like a decade?
>>282875298Bulma cheated on Vegeta in GT.
>atrocious pacing with the random cutaways to side stories that have nothing to do with the current battle>suicidal future Gohan>bizarre favoritism, King Cold gets glazed to hell and back but future Trunks is a jobber that never gets past SS1>Frieza is a complete manchild that would kill his best henchman Ginyu because of damage to a city>pedo Kakarot>Bra>Broly nukes the universe if he's left alone long enough>absolutely stupid rules like being allowed to instant transmission your opponent lightyears out of bounds, a tournament is supposed to be fun to watch>Zen Buu just being a ridiculous character in general>Magic treated as the end all be all>Xxi just taking massive shits all over the tournament, right down to the anti-climatic finish>I'K'L being a plot device to allow Xxi to shit all over the tournament>Ultimate Raditz goes nowhereI'm very grateful I got into DBM very late, I'd be pissed if I gave this blueballing shit years of my life.
>>282874867>>282874481
>>282875320Weren't the Earthlings possessed (I think it was possession?) for a short time only? I doubt Bulma had time to "cheat"
>>282875348Anyone who claims this shit is good art is either blind or fucking retarded. Jesus fuck this looks even worse than I remember.
>>282874777How Bulma turn out evil.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziSGCkUv82s
>>282875348>I'K'L use the za warudoNow that broken.
>>282875348>>282874259Toyo shouldn’t handle DB ip
>>282875741Wait? Salagir was fat?
>>282875381Bejita xhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F6Mfa0cMiU
>>282874259How is Bra any more of a mary sue than the main characters gaining 10x+ boosts everytime they get wrecked? Also she has psychological problems she tries to overcome and isn't overpowered in the sense she can beat everyone, you might just be retarded.
>>282876087Nobody is buying it, Salacuck.
>>282875348Atrocious pacing is most of DBZ, like 99% of the fucking show is skippable.Gohan was massacred in the original manga, not the fan mangaKing cold glazing is a story beat about ginyuFrieza was always a manchild who killed people on a whim, at least if Super is considered, but regardless of it as well.Pe-what?kinoWhat is the issue with broly being OP af considering it's a story beat, once again, to settle a power scale, something Z or Super never does to it's detrimentThis I can give to you but within the original rules of the tournaments this would make sense, it is sort of lazy though, I will grant you that.Zen Buu I will grant also, although it does make sense within the canon, more so the fault of Z.Magic isn't the ''end all be all'' it's gotten some characters far until now, but doubtful it's going to determine the series.>The first half of DBM has been an intriguing fan service/build up to the main plot, XXI might've coasted through, but the other match ups have been entertaining, for the most part.I'K'L plot was a waste of time, this also I will grant.Ultimate Raditz ''Went nowhere'' There's still no telling if it'll come back unless I'm forgetting something.
>>282876247>an excuse to put unnecessary goreViolence made everything better.
>>282876280>99% of the show is skippableWhat do you even like about Dragon Ball? If you skip literally everything, what is left to even enjoy?
Kai opening was good.
>>282876370None of the takes you brought up are anywhere as bad as what the original series, as much as I like it, DBZ is riddled with inconsistencies, I believe I could personally write a more concise facfic of the series than deme-yama.
>>282876175That's /dbs/ lore accurate Son Goku. No Kakarot required.
>>282876444Cool fights, all there is to dragon ball, I watched and read it as a kid, I would not rewatch 300+ episodes of Goku screaming.
>>282876536>I would not rewatch 300+ episodes of Goku screaming.You are not a Dragon Ball fan. Kill yourself.
>>282876087Doujin readers will buy them, DBMchads
>>282875781Toyo's manga already proves that he's more worthy of DB than Toriyama.They should just tell Toriyama to watch from the sidelines as Toyotaro does all the hard work.
>>282876536>skipping the story, character moments, artistry, emotional beats, lessons, comedy, and everything else, to watch fights and fights only, because nothing else mattersNo wonder you like MultiSHART. SAD and PATHETIC.
>>282876641>>282876444>>282874776Toppo’s victim
>>282876684What story? The tournament ended, what could possibly be left to still do?
>hiding behind Toppoholy kek
>>282867409>>282867259/co/pium
>>282876718Believe it or not, Salagir intended for the tournament to be the PROLOGUE to a larger story
>>282856474I genuinely do not understand the meme of Jiren. Is this a Morbius thing where everyone is being aggressively ironic about it? Cause this dude fucking sucks. I don't really understand how this character ended up being so bland. I dunno, I expect Dragon Ball villains to have at least SOMETHING going for them.
Meanwhile in Cuckliban's YABBAverse>Yulaan's bloody fight against Generalissimo Konrad, where the fascist brawler is taken aback by the bolloi's unnatural strength. He's met— and tamed— plenty of female fighters, but never a bolloi. Then again, Yabans rarely visit Earth, allowing them to be spoken of as myths and phantoms. The honor of fighting a Yaban vastly overrides the humiliation of fighting a chick, but he never expected this. Their reputation as demonic warriors of perfect combat prowess does not do them justice.
>>282876750This should explain EVERYTHING.>B-But th-No. J. The STRONGEST.
>>282876777Jojo dank meme?
>>282876718Salagir said the tournament was just a prologue and that the real story is about to start now
>>282876577>>282876639I used to be, I still enjoy the fanfics and enjoy the highlights of the series, I will although mock anyone who is above the age of 18 and worships the entirety of the series, there are plenty of problems, anyone with a brain can agree that it's extremely childish and intellectually lazy, I'm happy that DBM was able to make some sort of a series with mystery, complexity and logical follow up to the series, Toriyama was a senile retard who got lucky and kept pissing on the DBZ legacy from the end of Cell saga onwards.
>>282876763>mindbroken about Yuliban again, from nowhere
>>282876763Reminder that Torishima agrees that we need more Dragonball based on BEJITA and the MASCULINE BRUTALITY of WARRIORS
>>282876641I only enjoy the manga, the series is complete trash to bait in childrens viewership time and fool advertisers.
>>282876849I don't know who this torishima is but he sounds like a retard
>>282876849>Bejitacucks wants the guy that will make GokuXBulma canonHoly KEK! Bunch of cucks!
>>282876876Yes, you're correct, Torishima was right when he said Toriyama was a retard
>>282864881Artstyle shenanigans. >>282865004My heroine. I feel like because Bulma is one of the few heroes who has a functioning brain, her participating in fights would make every arc last like five episodes at most. Analyze the villain, isolate weaknesses, cobble up weapon to kill bad guy. Granted, more interesting than number screaming, but still.
>>282876794>fanficsStrike One.>DIAPERverse>a series with mystery, complexity, and logicStrike Two.>repeated counts of IESLBStrike Three. OUT.
>>282873940*Victim of his wifehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4k4IjQqNGg
>>282876794>implying that Cell is the peak of the franchise and not one of its worst arcs
>>282877100>Fight The Prince won
>>282856474He loses to Black Frieza
On one hand, Torishima has a good point that making a story about Bejita would be better than Daima's entire shit because that whole 7 years skip after the Cell arc has more than enough material to make out of, on the other hand, what kind of story would it be to begin with?Because the most i can think of is just making Bojack Unbound canon as the segway to making Vegeta go from "i'll never fight again'' to his appearance in the Buu saga where he's more than ready to fight Goku and even in that regard, making Z Movie stuff canon is just asking for lame shit (see Broly, Super Broly is lame compared to Z Broly, the Bojack crew is not even that good and chances are them getting rebooted would make them worse than they already were) and any other kind of story that'd make sense for Vegeta is just exactly more of this shit above.Fighting rogue saiyans that survived Frieza by disobeying the recall order but being old saiyans means they are unga bunga destroy earth and Vegeta has to put them down?Making Cooler canon and Vegeta gets to put Frieza's brother in the same seat in hell Frieza's in?Do away with fighting and have the plot be about Vegeta's love time with Bulma?Somehow include Goku in the story by having his own story in the afterlife that makes Pikkon a canon character, learns about the fusion dance after fighting dudes fusing and showing how he obtained SSJ2 (and maybe 3)?Or do away with the 7 years of peace and go onto make a vegeta story that takes notes from GY and he trains only to surpass his own limits no longer obsessed with Goku?Because thinking about this more and more, all i see is Torishima calling Daima so bad that making bejita a main character for a whole season would be better rather than a bejita story being the best thing to do with Dragon Ball after Z was over.
>Kinnikuman brings back the jobber squad>They all get big fights against the main villains of the arc, lasting multiple chapters each.>Dragon Ball brings back Yamcha>He gets a single page fight against 3 nameless nobodiesWhy does Toyo hate Yamcha so much?
>>282877287GT, not GY. Fat fingered shit.
>>282877287Bejita needs a female rival with battle autismHe needs the gettyHe needs
>>282877363>Bejita needs a female rival with battle autismBut he already has one
>>282877496k.b.c.
>>282877496Gokussy.
>>282877326chaozu got his first win in the franchise on the moro arc
>>282871805The mask is enough. All Freeza had was the headshape. Why not build on it more? Idk i just prefer them to look more unique. Its okay for their base forms to look similar though. Love those designs.
>>282877363He have Bulla.
>>282877100Fact?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiztGRi5pc0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oeEMzXVXlg
>>282877363I wish this character never got popular. Normies ruined her.>>282877659One reference is enough.
If Cooler is a nod to Predator and Frieza is a nod to Alien, then Frieza's equivalent battle mask should cover his eyes to contrast Cooler covering his mouth. And focus more on upgrading the fuck out of his combat style with his tail, i feel like Super forgot that Frieza extensively used his tail in Namek to do some devious shit. Black Frieza should have crazy tail game, make that shit do shit like skewering someone and detonate a Supernova from the inside out.But oh who am i kidding, fights can't be allowed to be as brutal as Namek era DBZ.
>>282871760
Bejita loves Gigi!
>>282877947Not enough screen time for an even back and forth just like Frieza and Goku's duel when both were going 100%. It's basically the same spiel as all Z movies: absurd plot armor deus ex machina asspulls at the end of the movies.
>282877986So, this was the DBM shill after all. Take notes, gentlemen.
>>282877721I have my Fasha.
>>282877826>fights can't be allowed to be as brutal as Namek era DBZ.This 5 second gif is more MASCULINE than every fight in Super and Daima
>>282878079What gentleman?
>>282877933I don't remember Shredder being this tall.>>282877947Not the same Goku. Cooler faced one after Namek. Count Zenkai and one possible Yadrat training.
>>282878102The Friezabro.>>282878130FunnyPOW!
>>282877933based>>282877802cringe
>>282877947In my headcanon, Goku proceeded through ASSJ powered up.
>>282878095That clothesline is some cool shit.
>>282876732I wanted see potential in Raditz and Princess Snake’s daughter, Mary Sue
>>282876929I wanna see a fight between Yamcha and RaditzThey should've been about evenly matched
>282873886>282874662>282874867Take the L
>>282878193Funny!
Vegeta won
>>282878327Raditz get zenkai boost and waited till Nappa arrive.
Bojack won
Your next main villains.
>>282878493>Your demon lords? Frauds spamming immortality hax from a dollar store item.Thanks Toriyama thanks Iyoku.
Why do you guys never discuss the early parts of Dragon Ball with kid Goku?
>>282878537Since Toriyama passed, we will never know her character.https://files.catbox.moe/90b3nm.png
>cucked in Dragon Ball>cucked in 4chanI am the happiest tranny cuck today!!!
>>282879341Not true the j***y is always happier
