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Ok time to start this season>bro wants to fuck his sisterKino is back in the me->not blood relatedWorst anime of the year, I think we all can agree.
>>282911688>digitizes herself and chases her fiance 200 years into the apocalypse to Have Sex(tm)gotta admit at least the girl can grind
What did she mean by this?
>>282911688If they were going to kill them anyways why not just stick with the brother sister aspect? It would have been the same result but much more appealing.
Friendly reminder than brown tits are not enough to absolve yourself from treason.
That guy is no japanese, everyone knows isekaijin love slavery
>>282912166I can tell you what she meant by that if you tell me what she meant by pic rel.
>>282912230His parents had died in the first ep so it's impossible that they're blood related.
>>282912605Just remove that part and make them siblings from the get go.
I don't understand the point of trying to show the android's emotions, when next episode she's just gonna murder the bad guys and nuke the shopping plaza
Haven't watched the eppy yetIs the propaganda really THAT bad?I knew it was gonna be a silly show with the "souls aren't real" line in episode -01But is it really THAT bad?
I don't hate naively kind protagonist but I hope he has a better plan than attacking armed soldiers without backup.
>>282914418shut the fuck up
>>282914220Neither do I. I just hope the solution to the problem is more nuanced than just letting the android kill everyone again, though I have my doubts.
>>282914542You don't write villains like the ones we've seen so far unless you want them to be turned into chunky salsa. I doubt we'll get any kind of nuanced situation until further on in the story
>>282914418The villain is a flaming homo this week in an episode filled with loli pantsu, retard.
>>282914590True, but I'm mostly hoping that we'll get to see what Akira is like and how he deals with this instead of just having the bad dudes be instantly killed by Yuugure.
There's not a single likeable character in this anime.*delete files to recycle bin*it's over
Vivy and Metallic Rouge were better than this crap, the pa works curse continues.
>>282915717Vivy yes at least until Antonio arcMetallic Rouge was garbage since the beginning.
>>282915411>thinking rupert murdoch is a leftist>thinking the lavender scare, mcarthyism, yellow peril, and satanic panic were invented by leftist mediathe CIA worked extremely hard on those psyops. the least you can do is credit them
>>282911428The Glasslip of this decade...
Just as they were starting to explore the ethics of slavery and how social values change over time they interrupt with yet another cartoon villain laughing maniacallyAnd the brown girl apparently betrayed them despite doing nothing at all, she didn't tip off the feds or lead them into a trap or anything
The Synduality of our generation..
sex with brown shortstack
>first thread hits bump limit in no time (when I'm asleep) >second thread is a ghost townI hate my timezone.
>>282917109wkwkwk
>>282917116brown indog is everywhere..
>>282915717>the pa works curseone good anime every 5 years?
>>282915743Antonio was one of the best arcs
>>282915717Metallic Rouge was literally waoty.
Holy fucking shit, the writing for this is so fucking bad. The characters are so bad. The worldbuilding is so bad.This is awful.
This screencap right here is a perfect example of why the writing is so incredibly bad.
>>282917833What's wrong with that statement?
>>282917844Nothing. But the context surrounding it is. It's clear to me that this is just one of the taglines they had for this project, and they placed the line into the characters' mouth because they're too retarded to make it obvious through context.
>>282917833The writing in this is bad in so many ways, but you chose what is a simple statement of fact?
>200 years into the future>japan is now a hellscape of favelas and brown people>because an overarching government of androids and comically evil people decided it to be soWhat is this show even supposed to be about?
>>282917513Only gigacopium-choked yurifags believed that
>>282917959It's about love or something like that.>>282917818Three(two) episodes in and this still feels pretty bland. The plot isn't all that engaging so far, but there's not much to the characters either. Towasa's message was disappointing, and when I thought that we're finally going to learn something about the world beyond the superficial stuff, we instead get>classified lmaoSeriously, why can't she tell him ANYTHING? Is everything related to Towasa somehow? Would be pretty ridiculous if that was the case.
>>282917959Nice of you to leave out that they were comically evil *white* people.Hey, it's almost like Japanese media creators aren't afraid of speaking through their work, however hamfisted the result may be.
>>282917959>What is this show even supposed to be about?Cute Girls. Everything else is AI-written slop.
>>282917844Bet you think 'people die when they are killed' or 'trees were everywhere in the forest' is fine too.
>>282914115I find it funny how they directly attacked the Catholic Churchin the prologue yet the post-timeskip clearly shows why we need God in our lives.But the godless Japs won't see it that way, they have no eyes to see, no ears to hear.They probably believe that the Church would become a totalitarian government even though that is in direct conflict with the Gospels.
>>282918704You think anything shown in the prologue will be actually important? You think the show will actually ponder the issues of AI and androids on a deeper level rather than use them as props in another isekai-esque 'a team of adventurers (90% female) gathers to defeat the Big Bad in one epic battle' iteration? You already got your isekai staple (slaves). The show is a scramble of soundbits with no coherence.
>>282918826No, I don't think that. I have the same opinion on this anime as you do.They will meander for the entire cour, dangling the mystery box in front of our eyes the entire time to keep us watching; "That's classified", and they will waste our time. That is how I see this anime. There is no vision in it.I just wanted to point out the absurdity of this setting.
>>282918826From the opening it seems like the adventuring party will be 2 guys 2 girls, but you're right that it doesn't feel coherent at all. Akira saying "you're an android, all right" was pretty based though.
>>282918870>"That's classified", and they will waste our timeWhen was even the last time in anime when a reveal to a mystery was truly shocking or unexpected? I can only recall the one in SnK - 'we are all monsters on an isolated island and the rest of the world wants us all dead'.
>>282919044>When was even the last time in anime when a reveal to a mystery was truly shocking or unexpected?Boku no Pi-The last anime original I recall is Gundam Witch from Mercury. Nothing happened the entire first cour and it continued to waste time.This is going to be the same. It's a waste of time, designed to keep you watching and to maintain the access numbers on the streaming platforms. It's not meant to be a good story.Back in the day you had to actually write a good story with a satisfying conclusion so people bought your BDs and merch, now all you have to do is to keep the viewer engaged for long enough that he keeps watching for the majority of the cour to get those views.It is truly regrettable.
>>282917513You're giving me flashbacks, my head still hurts from trying to remember who the wahoovians were and why they were fighting the droidians and why I should care. I gave up
>>282919044Last season's Onmyo Kaiten was pretty great. The problem with "it's classified" is that it's way too obvious. Whatever twist they're thinking of has to be really good and unexpected to be worth hiding information from the viewers so blatantly like this. And I admit that I don't have much faith in the writing quality of this show. I hope I'm wrong though.
>>282919221Onmyo Kaiten was really fun, but pretty much every twist was guessed by anons before it happened. I don't think that's actually a bad thing; it shows the writing was actually following a logical pattern and not bullshitting the audience which is good, but wasn't much shock factor to it.
>>282919314NTA, but every twists can be guessed if enough retards are conjuring a different headcannon, at the end one of them would be right.
>>282919096>Witch from MercurySpeaking of horrible timewasting writing.
>>282911688Siblingry is nurtured first, nature second.I wholeheartedly will embrace NBR than those sudden BR twists.
>>282919314>pretty much every twist was guessed by anons before it happenedIt wasn't that clear cut I'd say. For example I remember some anons thinking that the main villain didn't kill everyone on the moon. They weren't bullshitting the audience, just like you said, but they played with the viewers' expectations pretty nicely, without using obvious "there's going to be a twist" flag.
>>282917833for me it was the egregious>they dont know my facewhen moments before she explained there's an entire battle droid line with her face
it's funny i hear Orwell when they say OWEL
>>282917451Clearly not since akiba maid war, buddy daddies, mayopan and hibimeshi were good
>>282921592>buddy daddies>good
>that's classified information It's fine to have characters that don't know what's happening in the story.It's fine to have a twist later on where a character reveals that they were withholding information.But holy FUCK do I hate it when a supposed main character BLATANTLY knows what's going on and just refuses to tell anyone because reasons.
>>282921657They made a fujobaiting show only to give fujoshits the middle finger in the end, so it was based in my book.
>>282921688>But holy FUCK do I hate it when a supposed main character BLATANTLY knows what's going on and just refuses to tell anyone because reasonsIf done properly, it can be KINO.
>>282921324same, i clapped every time
>>282921783if you put hand in android possey, does it get crushed?
>>282921797It would be very painful.
>>282921926you're a big guy
>>282921926>>282921926>>282921926>>282921926
Episode 0 was ok, but episode 1 e 2 are shit.Really, I hate this meme of "Oh he betrayed us, but the poor guy had no choice", really. And they did not only once, but twice, back to back.The animation is really good, but man this story is so tiring...
Important safety reminder.
>>282922078brownoid cunny... I feel so bad for her!
Episode was mid. Which is dismaying considering how, if nothing else, engaging the first two were. >we have to save the slaverino we just met>why? thats a very dumb idea>because of my fee fees you uncaring stupid piss of junkMade worse by the fact Akira had been acting fairly rationally until now... Now they turned him into a woman>>282912230My thoughts exactly, at least in the future they could be blood related in spirit if not in body.
>>282921688I really hope it's justified well. I could see the information being hidden for a completely arbitrary reason (like his gf decided getting married needs to happen before it unlocks) and it ends up being just for the plot, but I hope not.Maybe it has something to do with the MC being a robot and they don't want to tell him yet.
>>282923011heat map moment for a heat map story
>>282921657Yes.
>>282921592Only Akiba Meido is actually good among those.
>>282923041>I really hope it's justified well.Anon, I have bad news for you.
>>282922497You know they are brown because they are indians and they are shitting on the streets all this time.
>>282911688The funniest part is how he goes to a future where you can marry whoever you want. He would probably be able to marry her even if they were blood related in such future. He probably would even be able to marry the shitskin loli from epi 1.
I enjoyed this shot.
>>282928941I'm sure you did
>>282928941me too
am I the only one who kinda enjoys this anime?
>polyshit is an established part of the future world>at least 1 Towa-faced android wants to fuck him>tiny brown sex goddessis this some advanced cuckquean play? She must have really felt bad about him being shot
>>282929975nah, it's just a meme to hate on pa works
Akira is such a fucking faggot
>>282911428I couldn't take this seriously the instant Drag Queen Dio appeared.
>>282930096Fucking androids and brown slave children is wrong.
>>282929975It's alright so far if not cliche.
That faggot villian was even worse than the first oneThis is a pretty bad show bros
>>282929975The posts that seem not to like it look copypasted so they don't even seem to be from much people, while I could understand not liking the MC the show is pretty good so far, but still too early to tell where this is going.
Just to be clear, I would save the slave girl, too. But only because it's obvious she would owe me sex afterwardsBtw>I did waht u asked and betrayed [the protagonist] now do what you said you would!>you FOOL! you really think I would honor my word? You die now!Is bad writingIt's also bad writing that yugure didn't just kill everyone there, as she was completely capable of it based off the previous episode>sheild around table where they were sitting>cut off the nearest solider's arms with laser swordGive me a single reason this wouldn't work
>>282930017As far as you can guess, indians replaced nips and their culture, many things resemble hinu culture with a mix of other things. For example the marriage, in the anime is called seelaha, and in hindu is called vivaha, both are ploygamus, and can be done as young as 10 yo the anime just throw a twist of homoshit to show its "from the future". There are also a few other things that resemble india wioth a bit of twist from other culture just to not be obvious. This makes me want to see how it'll develop and who is behind the changes in the world, oy vey but besides the setting the story from the episodes are really bad. I mean, two episodes with exactly same development, show some lack of creativity.
>>282930664No, that isn't bad writing. Trusting people in power without honor or morals that bind them is retarded and she gets what she deserved.
>>282930639I think people genuinely don't like the show, but there's just not a ton of horrible things that you can easily screencap and make fun of. Trainwreck shows with tons of crazy dumb shit happening are the best for that type of thing and this isn't like that yet.
>>282930664You utter moron, all episode they were explicitly trying not to attract more attention because of the scene they caused last time, you not being able to pay attention is not "bad writing"
>>282930664I can't even, Yuuge isn't killing anyone because of the moralfaggot she's with isn't giving the order and now because she doesn't seem to have interest on saving the girl, which is where the episode ends and we'll see what happens next episode, you might not like it but not liking something doesn't make it badly written.
>>282911428This show feels like it's just another isekai.
>>282930799They were trying not to attract more attention to not end up in the situation they were in exactly at that moment you fucking retardAnd they ended up in that situation anyways
>>282930639My only hope for the show is seeing the MC grow a pair, but I have the feeling that's not going to happen, we'll see.
>>282930830Is this the first work of artistic narrative media you've ever seen?
>>282930861You're giving the writers a whole lot of credit here lol
That whole first village is going to be wiped off the map by orwell because of the soldiers the robot killed
>>282930920Definitely, yeah. They were already torturing the villagers for less in the first episode. The MC left them all to be painfully killed with no way to defend themselves.
>>282911428corrupt bitch ass bribing ass slutty android
>>282930920Are we even sure they are following Orwell direct orders? So far the only agents we have seen do that are the Towas or whatever they are called, the gay dudes might have gotten that position by Orwell but they just seem like regular cops abusing their authority.
>>282931030You are asking questions the writers have never even gotten close to asking
>>282931030It's unclear. As you say, the girls this episode were very reasonable compared to the two assholes to the point where it feels like they aren't even part of the same organization.
>>282931030Man, Orwell is a organization that literally remove humans rights from people. The letogian aren't even slaves, slaves are at least regarded as human, letogian literally give up human rights, so they arent even regarded as human. So if you kill/rape a letogian, you technically aren't committing a crime, because they aren't human. So what can you expect from such organization.
>>282931242>NNNNOOOOOO CRIMINALS SHOULD HAVE HUMAN RIGHTScuckhold
>>282931355Save it for your government when they arrest you for saying shit on the internet.
>>282931242I don't know mate, I like the system, if you are already a criminal and want a way out other than dying it seems like a good option, but for what we have seen it doesn't seem like is a well implemented idea, so far the whole system seems very half assed but no in the "bad written" way but like that's the intention of the story, but we'll see.
>>282931435So far, it doesn't look good. Usually, the debt or criminal slave is a temporary slave that will work for someone to pay the debt or the crime in some manual labor, but still is regarded as a human. But from the tone used to describe the letogian, the letogian not only lose their human rights, but also have to work for life because of some debt or crime. This is just ridiculous. The whole of Orwell is like a comically evil villain.
>>282931435If all of the slave criminals were serial killers and child torturers no one would care. The problem is that the laws are unfair and people are made criminals for dumb reasons (like wanting to read a book), ruining the entire system.
>>282931435Why are people so quick to come to the defense of the writing and make excuses for it last week someone said the level 100 ebil villian who stuck his tongue out as he ordered the village to be slaughter for no reason except "I'm heckin ebil >:D" was actually good because it was "self aware" and "campy"The whole show is riddled with baffling writing choices, some small, some large, and it all adds up to being poorly written>b-buh you have to see where it's going!Okay? There are pleanty of shows that are written well from the start, thoughbeitThis is not one of them
>>282931595Just because a show is badly written overall doesn't mean that every single piece of writing in it is bad. There can be good/interesting ideas and moments in bad shows.
>>282922078It's ridiculous that the first pink hair faggot guy just gets forgiven with zero thought to itHe literally got his buttbuddy shot in the leg, potentially permanently putting him in a wheelchair, got his buttbuddy's wife's daughter kidnapped, and would have caused his entire village to be burned to the ground and slaughtered if the sexy robot lady didn't have a wet snatch for the mc. But don't worry>he did what he thought was rightFaggot show
>>282931435You know that the girl from episode 2 is a slave for the rest of her life because of her parents debt and someone can just buy her and use her as a onna hole because she dont have any human right and this can happen to other children as well.
>>282931635I didnt say every single piece was bad, but most of them are
>>282931823And I'm supposed to care about this because?
>>282931844You just sperged out at some guy for daring to suggest that a system was written to be intentionally flawed, rather than just being poorly thought out by the writers.
>>282932036Forgive me for assuming the writers are just badI only have the rest of the bad writing to go off of
>>282931801Oh dont forget the fact that the pink haired guy that betrayed them is Vocto, the second husband of Wia, the mother of the loli that almost got killed and brother of the guy that got shot in the leg.
>>282931595You might just be stupid, at this point you are saying that if you see a character being stupid that's badly written, no you retard, that character was made that way, that's not what badly written mean.
>>282915743Everyone agrees Rice Shower was one of the best arcs of Uma Musume.Acquire some taste.
>>282932413Its not badly written if it was written to be bad.
>>282932036If anything the whole concept seems very well executed if that anon is seething that much at basic storytelling.
>>282932413That's not what I'm saying at all you dumbassOne dimensional characters are badly written characterThis is the consensus that 99% of people engage with storytelling on any level have come to agree upon after thousands of years of the practice
>>282932378>husbandThis is bigoted language. Cease the use of this word immediately or you will be killed.
Your response?
>>282921750kek, Bravern was fun
>>282930811to be fair this is pretty much native isekai
Why guarantee their basic needs if they have no human rights?Why allow them to be treated like shit and killed on a whim if you're going through the trouble of providing their basic needs?Why would anyone choose to become a slave knowing you'll be treated like that?Why try and frame this as a practical system functioning by consent of the populace due to "changing values"?Why then undermine that by going "actually the system is horrible"?
>>282934811Shut up Frodo and fap to the brown loli.
>>282934811Well, they need a excuse to have that loli sex slave they wanted.
>>282934811Don't worryThe writers are geniuses and they made a system that doesn't have internal logic on purpose because the people in charge are stupidIt's actually good writing and you need a fairly high IQ to understand it
I'm unwatching this thread and deleted the anime from my anime folder.It wasn't even funGood bye.
>>282935212See you next week.
>>282934811Because that's the agreement.There's nothing that points out that this is being enforced or by design, and even if it were is clearly a contradiction that will be relevant later.Because is that or dying.Because you are going to eat the bugs.Because the system is horrible.
>>282911428Cancerous.
>>282912166Skank
>>282934811>Why guarantee their basic needs if they have no human rights?It seems to be intended so they survive even with minimal input of the contractor party>Why allow them to be treated like shit and killed on a whim if you're going through the trouble of providing their basic needs?Again, it seems to exist to facilitate the whole thing because it would be pointless to try and pay for a debt with work while also having to pay for said person's wellbeing and livelihood>Why would anyone choose to become a slave knowing you'll be treated like that?50 years in jail or work? Death penalty or permanent fealty?>Why try and frame this as a practical system functioning by consent of the populace due to "changing values"?It is practical>Why then undermine that by going "actually the system is horrible"?When did the anime do that
idk what it is but there's just something about akira that makes me cringe
>>282936017He's gay
>>282936017He was ok for me until he called Not Towasa a filthy android and ran to save his favorite slave
>>282936193yes this is probably it or a very large part of it
>>282936289Honestly, both characters were way too unlikable in that scene. It was very hard to sympathize with either.
>>282934811All your answer are simple.They are human cattle like the ones described in the Talmud, they provide the basic needs to keep them functional and do whatever they want with them. The best one certainly go to the high ranking officials and the worst go to the populace to use for cheap labor. They can do whatever they want with them, need a organ transplant? Kill one. Want that child sex slave? Grab one. Have some weird warped cruel thing? Grab some and do it. They can do whatever they want and its fitting to a dystopia world.To be honest this isn't even my problem with this, its dumb, but tolerable.My major problem is how those two episode were basically the same and how to mc changed since episode 0. Seeing the mc turn from a rational man to a emotional bitch really killed the mood.
>>282936193>>282936289>android saves your life twice and wants to marry you>call her a filthy toaster bitch cunt and run away to save a girl who betrayed you>you have no actual power at all, and will get yourself and the girl killed>but dont worry, the android will still save your ass in 5 minutes and the show is going to play it off as a change of heart on her endAkria doesn't deserve yugure or towasa desu
I'll give it one more episode. The lack of spine/brain in the MC is pretty annoying. The world seems neat even though a little contrived. The andriod is annoying with the whole "classified" bit and her powerlevel seems to be all over the place. Brown loli is cool.Is this japan after they've imported all the poos?
>>282914808>>282934839>>282935018>loliI hate how retarded normalfag /a/ has become.
>>282936017he won't get in the robot
>>282936698this but carnally
>>282932378This is loli.>>282930664This is not.As obvious from the fact that she has gotten fanservice in modern anime, fucking newfags.
>>282935835>>282934811Only the first point really makes any sort of sense (you wouldn't want your slaves to be so unhealthy that they can't work). I don't think it's a very practical law for a large government. Slavery isn't practiced just for the hell of it unless it's for people with truly exceptional wealth, so you'll always need to constantly replenish the stock to keep the economy going. Since people become Letogians only to be absolved of crime and debt, the only way that it'll make sense is if it isn't actually voluntary at all, so it's actually just normal slavery, but less believable since the slaves don't even get the illusion of potential freedom.>>282936411Towasa literally would've died if not for Akira. Him being saved by a Towabot just feels like karma, nothing wrong or weird about it. It would be lazy writing if he just gets bailed out next episode without doing anything of importance though.
>>282936834you're thinking waaaay too hard for this show. The reason slavery is introduced is so they can tell the audience that it's BAD. soapbox shittery 101.
>>282937097I know, the writing so far does feel pretty half-assed; it's mostly carried by design and animation. I'm not even optimistic about next episode, I just think that it would be nice to be surprised.
>>282937224I don't think the animation is that greatIt's been good so far, but nothing has stood out to me as either genuinely beautiful or awesome lookingAlso I don't like their heads. They draw them with really massive foreheads that kinda look like lightbulbs from certain angles. Looks kinds uggo
>>282936834It is not slavery its indebted servitude, big difference. Look at it this way, realistically you would simply enter into a contract with the government in the case of a judicial dispute or another party in case of debt (in which the gov would act as a mediator) that limits your freedom or outright denies it. That is it. Yuugure said they are not in risk of death which means they likely cannot be harmed or be ordered to harm themselves as a result of said work. All that is left is the time you have to endure as a Letogian which again, realistically, would directly corelate with whatever you owe to society and/or someone. And the ONLY reason we don't do slavery under the current regime is because its more profitable to pay people.
This is what happens when the writer is the director himself who has never written anything besides Jojo adaptations.
The show keeps going for the "values change, don't judge" angle while also sticking to the usual played-out dystopian tropes. You can't have it both ways. What makes a dystopia a dystopia is the contemporary value judgment that, wow, that sort of world sucks balls. So which is it here? Are we supposed to think this new world is bad or just different?
>>282937590ExactlyIt shows you a faggotdyke perversion of marriage and says>look isn't this HEALTHY haha! It's four strong independent wymyn who don't need no man! This is a CHANGE for the betterThen it shows you a slightly different interpretation of the modern day wagie industries and says>damn look at how brutal this is! It's basically SLAVERYjust show me the sexy robots and shut the fuck upI'm not interested in anything you have to say about morals or philosophy when you present a saturday morning cartoon villian and call your oppressive government "orwell"
>>282929975I think its okay but its being let down hard by these over the top clowns that keep showing up. Like there's being totalitarian assholes and then there's this literal clown fiesta we're dealing with. Even if later villains are more complex that gets undercut by them allowing these dudes to exist in their structure.
>>282931242>The letogian aren't even slaves, slaves are at least regarded as humanDepends on history and rules. The vaunted "oh so horrible" American version of slavery extended at least basic rights to slaves, they were considered people for the most part. Other historical settings like in Rome/Greece not so much. Humanity was fairly fungible if you were a slave you weren't a citizen of Rome and couldn't expect the rights of a citizen to apply to you and there's no concept of broader "human" rights. A crime against you was a property crime committed against your master, and so fines were the typical punishment.>So if you kill/rape a letogian, you technically aren't committing a crimeYeah, that's pretty standard with slaves across history. You are committing a crime though, you're damaging the property of someone else.
>>282937590You're supposed to not judge bigot
>>282937708It's just a typical japanese gumbo of tropes they picked up on from media but don't really get. The real point is to show brown slave girl and hot robot bodies. Looking for consistency or logic is silly.
>>282937420>All that is left is the time you have to endure as a Letogian which again, realistically, would directly corelate with whatever you owe to society and/or someoneWe saw none of this though. The implication of them relinquishing their human rights to be absolved of a crime or debt is that this is a permanent condition. I could be wrong about this system, but the thing with indebted servitude is that the person in question is usually still considered responsible for their own well-being, so they enter the contract as freemen, but with some restrictions applied to them afterwards for a period of time in exchange for wages or to pay their debts (though obviously the contract could be abused). The Letogian system on the other hand, according to Yuugure, requires that the person in question enter the contract as freemen but completely relinquishes their human rights after and we also see that they get a part of their body branded with barcodes. This is far closer to slavery, but without even the possibility of manumission unless their owner felt like it.>>282937837>Other historical settings like in Rome/Greece not so muchEven they usually still allow the slaves to buy their own freedom, though at a very high price. Only a complete idiot would willingly become a Letogian, so if so many of them are used for public services, there's no way they could answer demands unless it's actually not voluntary at all.
>>282938095Unless OWEL treats every crime and debt in the exact same fashion, which mind you it's silly but could very well be the case, things should work exactly as i said.And no, it has very little to do with slavery. Slaves are property, have zero rights from the get-go and can be traded freely and the government wouldn't need to subsidise the whole system in that case.The point here being that this whole thing does not work unless it exists a spectrum and a balance between what you owe and what you pay, that is what you should keep in mind.
>>282938374>Slaves are property, have zero rights from the get-go and can be traded freelyBut letogian are exactly like that.
>>282938095>The implication of them relinquishing their human rights to be absolved of a crime or debt is that this is a permanent condition.Its not though and its a weird assumption to make. Stating as a fact they have no human rights permanently when that was never said is a weird leap in logic.>Even they usually still allow the slaves to buy their own freedomSee, even here you recognize that in Roman-style slavery you could get out of it, but you absolutely were not treated like a human (citizen more specifically) while you were like that. "Removing of human (citizen) rights" while in this state did not imply that its permanent..>but the thing with indebted servitude is that the person in question is usually still considered responsible for their own well-beingNo. Slaves an indentured servants are taken care of by whoever owns them, which is part of why the system collapsed, it was more expensive to keep and maintain owned slaves that you held some responsibility for than it was to jut pay next to nothing to poor free people responsible for their food/housing/care themselves. Typically indentured servants were treated worse than a slave specifically because they had a time limit on freedom and were not the permanent property of their owner so people worked them to the bone to get the most out of them. >but without even the possibility of manumission unless their owner felt like it.That is literally what a slave is. Only the owner can sell them or free them. Indentured servitude is different.The only difference stated so far in the Letogian system that isn't common among historical practices of slavery is that a centralized government covers their basic needs. Normally the slave owner has to do that.
There is so much discussion here about the pseudoslavery conceptI'm not saying it's bad or trying to stop it, you are free to discuss whatever you want and you should unironically continue posting these walls of text because efforposting keeps the board aliveI just think it's really funny how there's a 95% chance that this concept has been discussed more in this one thread than the writers have ever thought about it over the entire course of making the show
>>282938594>Its not though and its a weird assumption to makeNot that anon, but the way Yogure explain here, she says in a way you can pretty much say its a permanent situation. If there was a way to buy your own freedom, she would probably mention it. And the way the villains are comically evil in this anime, I pretty much would guess it is this way.
the brown girl is erotic
>>282938594>See, even here you recognize that in Roman-style slavery you could get out of it, but you absolutely were not treated like a human (citizen more specifically) while you were like that. "Removing of human (citizen) rights" while in this state did not imply that its permanent..The greatest difference between any historical slavery and the Letogian system is that slaves are usually obtained; they're spoils of war, captured from wandering tribes, children sold by their parents, and many other things. It's not a leap of logic to assume that Letogians have no means of release, because unlike ordinary slavery they have to voluntarily enter a contract that basically states that they can't revoke said contract. The problem is that said contract is also approved of by the government, so they can't even sue them for being unlawful or abusive.>That is literally what a slave is. Only the owner can sell them or free them. Indentured servitude is different.>The only difference stated so far in the Letogian system that isn't common among historical practices of slavery is that a centralized government covers their basic needs. Normally the slave owner has to do that.Not quite I think. Governments back then usually do have a system that are pretty much baits for the slaves to make them think that they have a chance at freedom; it's not completely dependent on their owner. Upward marriage for the female slaves (likely impossible here because marriage is abolished, unless elsea does the same thing) for example. It also wasn't considered right to prevent slaves from buying their own freedom. And slaves that haven't been sold yet, but are not under any company, are usually taken care of (and put to work) by the local government until there's a buyer.>>282938715I know but I can't help it. It would be funnier if it is exactly as you said though.
If the NOTslaves do not have human rights and are basically property, why is the brown girl just walking around freely with a bunch of contraband? Was she always working for the baddies and planned their meeting from the start when they turned the corner and collided? What would be the point of the orwell fags sending her to go find them and lead them to a trap? Surely they could have just ambushed them themselves if they knew where to look?>but they didn't know where to lookSo it was random chance that this slavegirl that happened to be looking for them found them, then?No, what is much more reasonable of an assumption is that she found them and then took the opportunity to try and get her books back from the baddies by turning them in. The two questions are, then,>1) why was she allowed to walk around freely despite being a notslave?>2) why was she not punished for having contraband in the first place?We now come back to the answer of>well, she was working for them the whole time. She had contraband, got caught, and they coerced her to lead them to an ambush or else her parents would burned and her books would he killed. Obviously.Okay. Then again, why go through the trouble of sending her to lead them to a trap if they know where they are and can just wait for them to walk into an ambush on their own, which they would have done anyways, as the girl warned them about a checkpoint they didn't know about.>well, maybe they didn't know where they were-So they sent out this random slavegirl to find a needle in a haystack? What is she? Zuko in atla? Sent out on an uncompleteable task? So she found them via pure chance?Someone mentioned this in last weeks thread when talking about how owel just left an information AI god to just exist next to a hick village despite information control being their >raison d'etre. The show doesn't make sense if you think about it for more than a few minutes
>>282938730It doesn't imply that at all. You're acting like someone who earlier in the episode didn't even bother explaining their full route when she already had a plan and was acting on it or deflecting would go into some huge discussion of a concept she literally doesn't give a fuck about. She doesn't care if the slave chick dies, why would she care if she could gain non-slave status at some point under whatever condition of contract she has?
>>282938715Its sad but you're probably right lolThat being said indentured servitude is really not that hard of a concept to grasp, anon is just jumping the gun.>>282938730Just my two cents but i think the show is purposely framing things in the worst way possible, at least as far as optics go, in order to make Akira look retarded when he realises shit isn't as bad as he thought. It's just that the writing is subpar with how they use these villains or Akira's sudden emotional reaction to slave girl betraying him being... to go and save her.
>>282939001>because unlike ordinary slavery they have to voluntarily enter a contract that basically states that they can't revoke said contractThat is literally super common. Debt slavery was a thing, it happened all the time. Because of the status and thrill of it, some free persons would voluntarily become gladiators, which were slaves and once they did that they had to win their way out like any other gladiator and couldn't just call a mulligan because they volunteered for it.Once again indentured servitude was also common with the only real difference being that an indentured servant has a fixed endpoint agreed on by the contract. Until stated otherwise this system is a form of indentured servitude because its a voluntary decision to make up for some crime committed or to pay a debt. >so they can't even sue them for being unlawful or abusive.lol. lmao even. How many courts in history do you think took up a slave suing their master for harsh punishment? An indentured servant, maybe, but would still be rare because the assumption of the practice was already tough titties, suck it up, buttercup.>Governments back then usually do have a system that are pretty much baits for the slaves to make them think that they have a chance at freedom; it's not completely dependent on their ownerNo. Literally no. If your owner doesn't want to to leave you can't leave. The only exception I can even think of off-hand are gladiators who were actually paid in winnings and thus have a method of getting money to possibly buy themselves but this was never a fixed price and still had to be approved by their lanista.>Upward marriage for the female slavesAre you fucking joking? Sex slaves or concubines at best, never free. The idea of a freeman marrying a slave that was still a slave would be utterly absurd.
>all this discussion >For another holier than thou anti lolicon series with zero intellect behind the setting Grim.
>>282939001>It also wasn't considered right to prevent slaves from buying their own freedomWhat are you even smoking. Slaves don't make money. The master would have to give them an allowance to even try to buy themselves with, if he doesn't pay them they could never do it. Any money they find or earn other ways goes to the master. And as they are the master's property the master always gets final say on a sale and there was never, ever any sort of social stigma around a freeperson refusing to sell a slave that's nuts. Slaves are slaves, looked down on in every society they exist in, with truncated or nonexistent rights.>And slaves that haven't been sold yet, but are not under any company, are usually taken care of (and put to work) by the local government until there's a buyer.Holy fuck no. Just fucking no. They are the property of whoever has them. If a slaver bought them from an african market they are the slaver's property until someone else buys them off him. The only situation to what you're talking about is if the government itself is in the business of slave trading an acquisition such as across africa and thus is the initial vendor, so yes, they own those slaves and can do whatever they want with them as normal. Sacrifice a few just to show you can, sell a bunch, keep some of the better ones for yourself, whatever.There is never an uninvolved government that takes over the care of slaves brought to market in its borders, that along with everything else you keep saying is so beyond stupid this isn't even a remotely tenable conversation. You have no clue whatsoever how any of this works or ever has worked and considering you think someone saying a slave doesn't have rights automatically means slavery is permanent and unrelinquishable I don't think your brain works at all.
>>282939293Its 2025 and this what we have
>>282938970This, Idhi should already be the wife of someone, this is what really doesn't make sense.
>>282939270You're missing the finer points. The thing with being a Letogian is that there's not even an illusion of being able to become free. This is not about how free or not the slaves are, but how good the system is at keeping people in check, because that's what matters the most for a government. >which were slaves and once they did that they had to win their way out like any other gladiator and couldn't just call a mulligan because they volunteered for itDid they enter a contract that they know they can end if they try, no matter how unlikely it is, or a contract that explicitly states that they no longer have any human rights whatsoever? "Revoke" was probably a poor choice of word. "End" would probably fit better. You said it yourself that they could "win their way out." Relinquishing all your human rights is very different from what can be considered a timed contract.>How many courts in history do you think took up a slave suing their master for harsh punishment? An indentured servant, maybe, but would still be rare because the assumption of the practice was already tough titties, suck it up, buttercup.>Sex slaves or concubines at bestThat is the point. It's not about which slavery system is better for the slaves, but whether they have an out or not, even if it's extremely unlikely (by design) that a slave could achieve it. You used gladiators as an example, but how many of them died compared to those who managed to obtain freedom by fighting? Would a person willingly become a gladiator if there were no clause that tells them that they could become free by winning enough times, even if the chance of doing so is incredibly slim? "Relinquishing all human rights" is just sloppy, and not at all believable.
>>282934811>Whythat's classified
>>282940032Is it gonna still be classified after I RAPE your dumb robot ass??
>>282939172>It doesn't imply that at allIt does, the whole scene is to expose the viewer to the conditions of the "new world" in which Akira find himself and dark is. And that it, there no deeper meaning to it.
>>282919166warframe
At the beggining, Yugure reminded me of pic related.
>>282938730I concur, we've been shown no proof that this fictional government can make this system of notslavery work. If anything it shows how its already being abused
>>282939002I mean there was no point either for the gay orwell to: confess he lied about the promise, killed her parents, and burn her colorbook
I dunno, this seems fine. Not great or anything, but it's not the complete trainwreck you guys were building it up as.
>>282942012>trainwreckIt's way too early to call any show a trainwreck, newfag.
>>282942153Hey, they're not my words.
That book burning was fucked.
I liked the totalitarian government better in 0048.
>>282911428Jew-Jew
Abysmal dogshit writing: The Show.Who's the intended audience for this? Is it propaganda for the youth?
>a normal hardcover paper book>going up in flames>instantly>from being exposed to a cheap bic lighter for 2 seconds>while it's RAINING
>>282943428>Who's the intended audience for this?Waifufags.
>>282943428It was like watching some western woke trash in anime disguise. And the main (robot) girl is ugly.
>>282943495Boobs not big enough to get the main waifufag audience today.
>>282943511Where is the woke?
>>282943526
>>282943468In the distant future they make books out of nitrocellulose and gasoline.
>>282943532>person of color must be included!Exactly there. Right fucking there. Are you blind or pretending? What was going through your head when you posted her of all characters?
>>282943532>Where is the woke?polygamous brown people being oppressed by white psychos and tranniesalso religion is bad because it gets in the way of progress
>>282943495heh
>>282943532If she was a loli, I'd maybe see your point...
I wonder what the elevens think of this.Do they decry the bad writing as we do?Or are they blinded by the flashing lights and blond haired android?
>>282943495Perfect voice.Perfect personality.Perfect red legs and hopefully perfect red feet.
>>282945240They also have memes about how PA Works does a shit anime for every good show they make
>>282945240Elevens?
>>282946306Holy newfag
>>282946306Lurk 2 moar years before posting.
>>282946306hownu.ru
>>282946306why do newfags exist
I will now watch your anime. (even if it is a piece of shit)
>>282947370I hate that this is true for me aswell
Might end up being the worst pa originals in a lot of time
>>282947546Narenare was far worse
>>282945240https://pug.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime/1760086954/Looked at some threads for a bit, and it doesn't seem like they have much faith in the writing so far either.
>>282947370What's her appeal? Brown skin?
>>282950789Brown oppai loli, you don't need more than that
>>282947370Characters are always the most important part in an anime. Story always comes second, if not third.
>>282950975>loliYou newfags have no idea what that word means I swear to fucking god. How in the everloving fuck is she even remotely a loli, despite being a well endowed full grown adult?
>>282950975Seriously where did the notion that she's a loli come from?
>>282951080Retards be retarded, anon
>>282951204No, I can't leave it at that. Especially since I've heard her being referred to as loli multiple times.Did these people not watch any PA works series in their lives? Did they not watch any lolicon series? Can't they look at characters in context? Don't they see her being well endowed and clearly an adult character? I have so many questions, we're getting to the western level where everyone above 40 or 180lbs obese fuck is considered a little girl.
