He did nothing wrong.>waaahhhh he barged into a dojo killed 67 people!After scum poisoned the few people he cared about? Yeah I'd be fucking enraged as well.>wahhhhhh all of the people he massacred when he turned into akaza!!!Was just simply following Muzan's orders. Blame it on him.>wahhhhhh he killed muh husbando rengoku!!!He should've been stronger.
>>282978960Akaza is the best moon, and one of the best developed characters, there's barely even competence.
>>282978960>wahhhhhh all of the people he massacred when he turned into akaza!!!>Was just simply following Muzan's orders. Blame it on him.I know this is engagement bait to keep a thread alive, so here’s my engagement:You’re retarded
>>282978960I thought that he was going to be revealed as a demon when he went to the dojo but he really did massacre them as a human.
>>282978960>He killed muh husbando rengoku!!!I say this. Fuck Akaza.
>>282978960Im honestly jealous of the attention Akaza got compared to the other upper moons in terms of writing. He seems spoiled by the author.
>>282978960>he barged into a dojo killed 67 peopleHe was justified in doing so IMO.
>>282978960The dojo killing was indeed justified since they poisoned the people he cared about and there was zero chance they'd be brought to justice and he even has the legitmate excuse of being turned into a demon purely against his will unlike the other Upper Moons but his biggest and true sin was getting surpassed by a fag like Douma when he had a head start of hundreds of years.
>>282980285Because the manga didn’t tell you crucial detail that it was the heir of that dojo who poisoned the well out of jealousy (he loved Koyuki one-sidedly). Akaza just went in and murdered nearly 70 innocent people. Want to know WHY the Shounen Jump editors kept that critical piece of info from you? To manipulate retards (you) into feeling sorry for Akaza and believing that he did nothing wrong.
>>282978960he was a jobber that couldn't even be number 2 of his org and pretended to be this super warrior
>>282980433Douma biggest advantage is that his Blood art is really really busted compared to the others, since freezing your opponent is very effective against both humans and demons.Probably even the strongest blood art in the whole story at its max form, surpassed only by Kokushibo because of his experience and being centuries older.In comparison , Akaza’s whole kit is very Monk based while Douma was basically the Sorcerer of the team…it was an uneven match up for him
>>282980507Does it get stated/shown that only the Dojo heir did the poisoning without the others helping or knowing?Because frankly, even in that case nothing would be different.Akaza would want to kill the guy, and the dojo students wouldn't allow Akaza do that and leave so Akaza would end up killing everyone else.And we've then, I would still feel bad for Akaza and not the others because In a selfish yet normal person who obviously will care more about the named character who I got to know, instead of the almost hundred of faceless nobodies that got killed.
>>282980730Oh, so you’re actually just admitting that you don’t even PRETEND to care about faceless nobodies in a shounen? Okay, fair, no one actually does care, even the protagonists only pretend to care because of their narrative role. As long as the group photo of the dojo students are missing faces and we never have to see them watching the fireworks with their sweethearts, who cares. But then, none of the demons, Muzan included, have done anything really worth being forced to fight Slayers to the death over. Rengoku, Kanae, Shinobu, Douma and Akaza were just soldiers in a senseless war, aren’t they? Soldiers die in war, so why does no one think of it as a tragic waste of life instead of villains vs heroes?
>>282980507The cut content of the one sided lover was something Gotouge cut because they thought it was too long.
>>282981157Tanjiro thinks it is and has pity for most of the ones he fought. Also why Muzan is an even bigger piece of shit for taking advantage of downtrodden humans for his own gain. I looked sideways at Ubuyashiki too
>>282981157>so you’re actually just admitting that you don’t even PRETEND to care about faceless nobodies in a shounen? I also feel like that about IRL stuff. And the way I see it is a normal human reaction.You can tell me about the thousands of innocents killed in wars and conflicts in other countries and I will say "aw poor people" but by the end of the day I'll forget because I don't know them. I would only care if the people that got killed were family of friends of mine, people I actually got to care about.>why does no one think of it as a tragic waste of life instead of villains vs heroes?To be fair, that's the way the author tried to portrait it. That's the reason why most of the moons (the ones that deserve redemption at least) got some kind of scene showing their past about why they turned into demons so the people can empathize with them and feel pity now knowing what pushed them into that path.If other people don't see it that way it's because they end up empathizing with one of the heroes more.Like, for example I like Akaza, but I know he was an asshole... I also like Rengoku though.But a friend liked Rengoku so much he hates Akasa and gives a fuck about any attempt the author does to humanize him. Hell, he has Shinobu as his waifu and still hates Akasa more than Douma from what I've seen.
>>282979161This made me remember when Oriana Fallaci interviewed Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin before the Lunar Mission, and she asked about their role in the Korean War.Armstrong was a supreme autism lord, his entire life was airplanes and aviation and flying in general, he really didn't give a fuck about mankind going to the Moon, he didn't believe in God, didn't give a fuck about American values really, he only cared about airplanes and such, so when she talked about Korea he started going on about the planes he flew and their specifics etc, she asked about the lives he took and he said he didn't care about human lives, an order is order, he went to war to fly his damned planes, then had a spergout and had to end the interview.Buzz Aldrin was very happy about his role in Korea and was narrating how he dumped tons of bombs upon villages; when she asked if a mass murderer was a good representative for humanity in this mission he said that 1) he was following orders, so they don't count as murders; 2) in one thousand years humanity will still talk about him as the man who went to the Moon for the first time, so whatever bad things he may have done before will be forgotten, so who cares?She kinda despised both.
>>282981317Okay now I;man REALLY confused. If the dojo went defunct, who are the 67 students who were killed there? Why are there 67 students, complete with a group shot, at a dojo which had already shut down? This doesn’t add up. Do I have to revisit the old theory that the flashback, which seems ridiculous / fantastical in numerous ways, is actually Akaza’s subconscious creating a fictional version of events to protect his psyche?
>>282978960>he barged into a dojo killed 67 peopleIf the dojo is so weak that they lose 67 vs 1 they brought same on their ancestors, shame on the dojo, shame on their masters and their demise was willed by the heavens.
>>282981789It could have been a formally large dojo with hundreds of members that effectively shut down and was only left with the 67 people who just treat it as more of a gathering place
>>282979161He lost his fucking memory, and woke up as Muzan's demon bitch. He did absolutely nothing wrong. Life wronged him at every possible opportunity. Go fuck yourself Tanjiro.
>>282982024I really hated how the entire story bended reality so that Tanjiro's morality never had to be challenged.The way his sister was handled in general is horrendous writing.
>>282980507Eh. Guilty by association. I'd have done the same.
>>282981608Everybody hates Douma for example — well, not really because he enjoys a very powerful halo effect — because he killed Shinobu. But Douma is a genderbent combination of all three Kocho sisters. Personality of Kanae, mind of Shinobu and the heart of Kanao. His eyes are the colors of the Kocho butterflies. The reason why SHinobu is so enraged when meeting Douma isn’t because she’s especially angry, because she’s ALWAYS that angry, it’s that she is looking at HERSELF in a mirror. It’s a metaphor for self-loathing. Once you view things in the way the mangaka intended, that the fight is just a tragic fight between the sisters, you won’t be able to hate Douma, because Douma is honestly not even his own character, he’s just a prop for the Kochos.So with this understanding, do you still hate him? He’s still a big eater of women (which of course is a surface level metaphor in Japan for SEX so it’s implied he does n more than just take bites out of them). They’re all strangers so who cares right?
>>282982068In what sense do you mean this?I think Tanjiro had an open enough mentality about fighting demons.He saw them as enemies but still got to feel pity about them and empathize when the moment called for it.>The way his sister was handled in general is horrendous writing.If you mean what I think, then maybe that would only occur on a seinen.I refer to having Tanjiro still protect his sister even if she had killed and eaten humans.However, the current Tanjiro?If that had occurred... The series could have shifted completely off focus.Forget about Muzan and have Tanjiro going place to place killing demons as he learns about them and all the pain they cause, trying to kill his feelings so he can eventually fight and kill his own sister.It would end in a tragedy with Tanjiroeither living with that sin, or outright killing himself on the end as a way to atone.
>>282981789Are you stupid or only used to westoid mc-dojos with a dozen people tops?Traditional dojos were effectively military bases with 200+ people minimum.
>>282981317>backstory I cut out>thought you should know Keizo suffered really horribly thought-thanks
>>282983587EXCEPT FOR AKAZA’S WHICH HAD ONE (1) NON-PAYING STUDENT? RIGHT, CLOWN? Why am I even engaging with KnY fans.
>>282982862Nezuko as a character is TRASH. She’s not even a character, just a shelving unit the plot uses to pull out plot armor for Tanjiro, a toy for other characters to cuddle with occasionally and otherwise to remain shut. She has the agency of a DOG, and treated with even LESS respect.
>>282981789are you really trying to squeeze a win out of something from cut setting notes in a fanbookhave you never read some kind of jidaigeki manga about sword schools
>>282979077>>282980200Koku is better
>>282984405CorrectThat thing where he becomes completely livid with self-hatred when he understands that he was looking down on child Yoriichi when he was only trying to help their mother is one of those emotionally-literate moments you are not ever going to see in normal garbage battle shonen.
>>282984048Shit felt so wrong when she got the ability to endure sunlight and later they mentioned she was regaining the ability to speak.Like... what?I know she went through something traumatic, but having a girl that was like 12 or something acting in such a weirdly innocent way while talking like a baby... it feels so fucking wrong. Like she is unironically Tanjiro's mentally challenged sister instead of a demon.
>>282984516What a fucking kino flashback, so sad the Croc doesn't seem to want to do another manga, seh's really good at short and good stories
