I don't hate JJK, but it doesn't do anything original that I haven't already seen in other jump manga/anime. And yet it seems to be insanely popular among the gen z crowd when I browse social media. What am I missing?
>>283012906You were born 10-20 years before the target audience.
>>283012906Attractive characters (thanks to MAPPA) + non-stop action without fleshed out character relationships + its character centric approach to action and fighting where character powers are stand-ins for their personalities + the setting is basically today's world + its approach to plot development where it's always half-assed and underdeveloped so people find it compelling to jump in and complete the blanks by themselvesIt's the type of shonen someone who is very concerned with himself would write, which means it's not a lot like usual shonen at all, and the author can't help but show favoritism at every step when it's the sort of work where he absolutely shouldn't, it's closer to a shoujo in that aspect (and JJK0 is basically Geto and Gojo fighting over Yuta as if it was some otome game). Hidden Inventory arc is very good fiction in my opinion though Toji vs Geto is pretty bad.
>>283012906As a genz who don't like shonen that much jjk goes against every shonen tropes and excutes it wellSukuna is not a power up. He is a villainTalent beats hard work. But hardwork will make you the best version of yourself. Even though yuji is the main charchter he is not the only one that is given importance like megumi gojo yuta
>>283012906Gojo and Sukuna. I'm not even kidding. 12 year olds eat up this garbage because """aura"""
>>283013359No one likes Sukuna though. He's barely in the top 10 in the popularity polls in Japan and isn't top 5 in most places. He may be top 1 in /a/ though.One of the least interesting characters.
>>283013147it does seem to be very much written on the fly using a "rule of cool" approach. i can see how that would be appealing, although I much prefer shows with a well thought out setting, power system, and plot. But I'm willing to discard that bias.>>283013153I see where you're coming from.>>283013006>>283013359I do admit if I saw this as a 12 year old I'd think it's cool as fuck, but I do like other recent jump series like kny, bnha, and csm
>when I browse social mediaYou don't belong here, go back.
>>283014237i mean 4chan is a form of social media, and i undoubtably have been here longer than you so....
JJK feels like a dozen plot points of a Naruto fanfic and then making a story around it.
>>283012906aura for black weebsboys for fujos
>>283012906For me, it was quite unique to see the good guy mentor character (Gojo) actually flex his powers and merc the shit out of the villains. It was a breath of fresh air imo. Pair that with some cool sidecharacters, some engorssing moment-to-moment action, and some good villains, and you had an entertaining manga.It's when it devolved into NOTHING but action that the manga lost all its momentum and weight.
>>283014520>i mean>so....
>>283014520>another retard conflating an image board with social media >jjktard>probably watches retarded “edits”Seriously, fuck off
>>283012906Good early pacing, and cool characters.That's all you need to be considered good in this day and age.
Gojo was cool, I never went back to read it after I heard they killed him off. I also really liked the first ED of the anime. But I think it's popular because it's just baby's first shounen of its generation, on the normalfag internet people are literally glazing Yuji, the most bland and nondescript protagonist in history.
>>283012906Same reason why Bleach is so popular in 2010s
>>283016810>is>in 2010sBased time traveling anon
>>283012906-It's good for manga veterans. It doesn't waste any time. The fight choreography is given a lot of care and it focuses on clarity. -The plot moves quickly because the villains are smart. The strongest do things immediately on the front lines instead of sending progressively stronger underlings. -The heroes are serious and fight without honor. If they can dogpile on someone. They do. If they can cheat or trick or lie. They do. -Yuji is great. --Suffering builds character > Suffering builds character > Suffering... --he is an actual underdog but the story doesn't try to use that as a selling point. In fact he's a special test tube baby but still, the reality is he is always an actual underdog.--martial arts is the coolest power.
>>283013153>Sukuna is not a power up. He is a villainthis is a big draw for JJK
Peak performance since the Heian era, if Sukuna was a cologne I'd wear it.
>>283017018>literally died beefing with teenagers who didn't even have their first kiss
>>283017032He beefed with the entire sorcery world and almost beat it, and even in defeat he crippled it forever.
>>283012906Originality is not a merit. What matters is being good/entertaining.
>>283017053Might is right. He fought till the end and he only considered he *might be wrong AFTER he had already died.
The first couple arcs were neat but it got too far into the weeds of fight autism and I stopped giving a shit
>>283013006You mean OP won't be conceived for another 5 years?
JJK has some good designs but some of the side characters look like some gay and lesbian mardi gras shit
Good fights, good characters, solid pacing and world building, basically hits all the shonen notes. It was also definitely timing, the anime came out during the covid lockdown era, anime was really popular for a minute with normal fags(everyone was reading fucking one piece even) and it filled the void that people had before the next season of demon slayer
>>283012906It's Bleach for the people who were born in the late 2000sEvery generation gets their version of edgy shonen, not because it's the best but because it's contemporaryIn 5 years you'll have 2010s gushing about KGB and how it's the best thing in the world
>>283013006I feel personally attacked.
Why does JJK have 0 cute girls
>>283017780miwa existsbut the author is a homoan author's taste in women tells a lot about him and jjk's best girls are yuki tsukumo and mei mei, showingwhat kind of an idiot he is
Why are most JKK fans annoying as fuck
>>283012906I like it because it's nothing original but it's fun and has characters and scenes that appeal to me. It's just a big YYH/Teito Monogatari/X1999 fujo fanfiction at the end of the day. If I read this blindly as a teenager I would have been impressed, surprised by some of the twists and would have had different expectations and opinions, right now as an adult it felt kind of nostalgic.
>>283013147>and JJK0 is basically Geto and Gojo fighting over Yuta as if it was some otome gameNo they're divorcing and fighting for custody of Yuta.
>it's just Naruto >no, it's just BleachActually, Gege is trying in so many ways to tell you that it's just HxH and YYK, but none of you guys have eyes to read
>>283012906It captured the zeitgeist.
>>283017780JJK is a homo coded seriesYou go to One Piece or Chainsaw Man for girls
>>283020136Or maybe they were tricked into Naruto comparisons with surface level things like the trio (which isn't even one) or the mentor character being around Kakashi's age, having white hair, etc. (but Gojo isn't a useless jobber)
>>283013153>As a genz who don't like shonen that much jjk goes against every shonen tropes and excutes it well>nothing here lists goes against shounen tropes>Infact Yuji is just another amalgamation like Ichigo only the manga doesn't dwell on it You're definitely a zoomer because your take is retarded
>>283016207>For me, it was quite unique to see the good guy mentor character (Gojo) actually flex his powers and merc the shit out of the villains. It was a breath of fresh air imo.Zoom zoom zoom
>>283020193>Complains about zoomers lacking the necessary reference points>Is obviously a millennial whose only frame of reference is Bleach Both are clearly based on the post-demon world arc Yusuke in YYK, you need to put your fucking nose to the paper
>>283012906>What am I missing?It's a COVID anime basically it got popular for the sake of being popular despite being throughly unremarkable in every regard (like KnY and SpyxFamily) and if you ask anyone why they like it it just comes down to memes or because everyone else does. What's funny is that its not like JJK is some well received work like AoT and MHA were during their peaks even IGN fact out called Shibuya arc shounen slop because thats exactly what it is.
>>283020267You do realize that Gege is a millennial who not only dick rides Bleach but HxH as well right?
>>283020324>headcanon>throughly
>>283020267>Both are clearly based on the post-demon world arc Yusuke in YYKExcept clearly different in every detail especially since demon world arc Yusuke was fucking shit
>>283020341>You do realize Gege is a millennial blablabla which is why he has to have based his work on Bleach instead of Togashi's oeuvre in general (as we're seeing now with Level E), despite the billion referencesWhatever you say, my retarded friend
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>>283020407>billion references>lists noneAlso Module is nothing like Level E and JJK is as inspired by YYK as Bleach.
>>283020407Looks like the zoomie is having a melty
>>283020357If the series is like any other, it's certainly HxH based on the power system and fights
>>283016937Based. So many manga have their fights as nothing but spreads with a named attack, then JJK comes along and finally gives enough of a shit to do them right
>>283012906you're old, jjk would be lit if you were in middle school
>>283012906Name anything as cool as Gojo vs Sukuna that is airing this season. I'll wait...t. ZoomGOD
Modern audiences haven't watched YYH, the original DBZ and maybe even early Naruto. They might have heard of Fate but it's still niche.Same applies to other hits like Frieren and Demon Slayer, the audience is too young to have read what inspired them, so to them it's brand new.
It's a kids power fantasy show and kids love power fantasies
>>283012906It's popular among all ages because it does shounen right.
>>283017780Momo and Nobara
>>283020184>Gojo isn't a useless jobberHe objectively is
>>283021977hahaHAHAHAHA
>>283021713You've got a child's view of media. Every story is inspired by what came before it. Its not some kind of detriment and it's not even accurate. Readers wouldn't appreciate Sukuna being an actual problem if we hadn't already seen the "inner demon but actually super helpful for the MC" trope so many times already.
>>283021977
>>283020193Your take is even more retarded you only gave one point against my argument that is only just a plain responseHow many episodes does bleach have how many episodes does jjk does jjk has a clear ending planned outYuji is a protagonist who feels guilty for the people he couldn't save even when it's not his mistakeKnow your place insolent fool
I want Sukuna to rape me
>>283020324Yup yup
>>283021996He's not a useless jobber, he just keeps sabotaging everything because he's a homosexual, that's different.
Manga veteran. Let me give my breakdown >Starts with the anime>Why does this feel like an amalgamation of every popular shounen in the previous generation, and in a bad way.It took a lot to get me continue. The first season was uninteresting and I didn’t care for Gojo. By the time I started liking it (Junpei arc) it was almost over. The ending was fire though.>S2Toji, much like canon, changes the whole game. Hidden inventory makes Gojo a good character instead of just bishounen aura bait. The story was just good. Nanami and Yuji being my favorites up to that point became even more likable and the story finally finds its legs on Shibuya. I was hooked all the way from that point. Once you finally get to Mahito, the story stops wasting time and kicks into gear the whole way through l. I appreciate that…about until the timeskip where I wish Gege slowed down to let the developments and characters breatheJJK has a good cast, fights are well choreographed and the personalities of everyone involved show through the battle itself. Unlike DS where pacing breaks for backstories, the characters evolve as people through fighting. It’s like a sports event. Another draw is the villains. They’re real pieces of shit and menacing as hell, and their persistence breeds tension. JJK was the kind of story that could end with everyone dying and be perfectly consistent with its themes. Themes that are surface level but serviceable.
One thing i like about Gege is that he storyboards like someone who read delinquent manga or was one himself. Good guys or bad guys, everyone fights like a piece of shit. No honor. They just do whatever it takes to win. They’re like street fights amped up to 11 and drawn well. JJK is an actual battle manga
>>283014520Fuck you normie
>>283029161It's more like that manga about the kid joining a biker gang, and less like the classic delinquent stories.
>>283012906The same reason One Piece, Naruto, Bleach and bnha are popular
>>283029471Holy kek
>>283029161It makes sense, everyone fights for survival, is mentally ill, or both, who cares about honor if you're dead. I liked that talk no jutsu wasn't a thing most of the time.
>>283012906>--martial arts is the coolest power.I don't get it. Most battle shonen nowadays try weird powers, swords, magic... But what are some of the most popular series ever? Stuff like Dragon Ball, Naruto, YYH, Kinnikuman, Ring ni Kakero, Hokuto no Ken and many others show that no matter what generation, people always love martial arts. Especially combined with ki and power levels, but not necessarily. Yet you don't see as many shonen try to copy that style even though it's the most obvious thing to do.
>>283031030Best guess is that it is just harder to do. As in harder to draw and harder to plan out. Of course the other version that focuses more on big emotional moments behind a named special attack have their own appeal
it hits all the marks on a battle shonen seriesthat and tiktok propelled it into a global phenomenon
>>283020156Kek, as if csm isn’t the pinnacle of fagslop. If you want cute girls you unironically watch MHA
>>283032417CSM is all about cute girls being crazy
>>283012906Satisfying fights and cool characters that radiate aura.
>>283034524I've only seen lesbians and cucks be attracted to csm girls. The MC is a cuck who keeps getting manipulated by lesbian-coded masculine women. You'd have to be a literal faggot to find any of it attractive
>>283017780Miwa, Mai, Mei Mei, Nobara
I finally read JJK very recently, almost in one go, and if I have something to say, is that it is "inconclusive". The fights look good and all that, but at no point was I left satisfied, it's like Gege just forgets everything. Feels like reading One Piece but (thankfully) shorter. Reading it was a constant "is that it?" moment.
shounen bro here. it's absolute fire. it might end up being up there with BLEACH and MHA.
>>283024512>rafael matomayor>fat spic weebi don't even want to hate but seriously. who on earth cares about the opinion of some fat weeb when it comes to high test battle shounen. it's like asking a gay guy about lesbians.
>>283012906Serialization was fun because gege is willing to make an ass of himself subverting expectations, like kenjaku being yujis mother, even though it's irritatingly stupid and has zero thematic contentNow that pretty much guarantees an ending without any sense of closure or catharsis, but now that there is a sequel everyone can go back on copium thinking it was all meaningful
>>283037032Kenjaku being Yuji's mom was honestly the funniest unnecessary non sensical shit I've ever seen from a shonen.
>>283031030>beam/projectile spamor>actual fight choreographyWhich do you like more?
>>283022307Better one for you, praise Sukuna-sama
>>283024508
>>283012906hype moments and aura.
>>283012906>283037932In millennial speak this means "JJK is sick and dope."
I've been wondering the same thing
>>283017266Lmao
>>283035102Awful, awful taste
To be fair, you need to have an IQ/EQ lower than 100 to truly understand and appreciate JJK
>>283012906Battle shounen are generally popular, and having a decent enough budget to actually do the battles is an easy win. What makes me laugh about this series is that it's literally MY DARKNESS IS STRONGER THAN YOUR DARKNESS.
>>283035102Imagine being this low test
>>283022072Dialectics really are the answer to everything.Not sure how I feel about that.
>>283013153>Talent beats hard work. But hardwork will make you the best version of yourselfBro this has always been the case in other shounen. They just pretend that the 'talented hard worker' was just a hard worker
>>283034924I just like the silat poses that Gege keep making
>>283012906The fight, unironically, I am not ashamed to admit it have 2 fight that put me to fucking tear because of how beautiful it is. The rest doesn't matter much but the fight was way too good
Suppose this is the thread, Yuta and Yuji vs Sukuna got me into JJK recently, I want to know what's the deal with Yuji's blood manipulation? From what I see so far it doesn't seem like something he originally had, so did he got it somewhere?
>>283012906I think it's because it has a faster pacing and it helps with the short attention span of zoomies.
>>283012906It isn't.
>>283012906Since Naruto, all the most popular shit has been pure faggotry, and it's only gotten worse since then.
>>283013359Gojo vs Sukuna was beautifully executed. The two strongest sorcerers in history keep pushing the power system and themselves to the limit without asspulls. It's a highly technical fight, and so beautifully consistented with everything established throughout the story.
>>283012906>Why is JJK so popularWomen.No, not the ones in the series, I mean the ones reading it, and making and consuming fan art and fics.
>autistic power system with a bunch of retarded rules and unnecessarily long explanations for otherwise simple things to make retards feel smart>every character is 2 dimensional with some dumb gimmick like speaking in sushi ingredients or being an idolfag so kids can pick their favorite funny character to latch on to>3deep5u references to surface-level japanese mythology and four character idioms taught in school so kids can feel smart for getting the reference>stereotypical bishounen guy, gloomy guy, etc. for fujoshi to latch on to>full of stupid "hype moments" to appeal to third worlders (even joke characters get them)>anime has that dumb camera spinning shit where characters are sliding around and doing flips not really attached to the background so stupid westerners get tricked into thinking they're watching sakugaFeels like this was designed by businessmen with years of market research data to work with.
>>283012906The fight is great, especially the coreography. Gege really knows his shit about it. The pacing is fast and precise so no fillers/flashback could kill the tempo. Also the characters are cool and likable like Yuji, Gojo, Nanami, Toji. Everyone from normies, powerlevelfags, shipperfags and fujoshis can enjoy it.
>>283021483You can try animanga in 2020s and I'm sure no one can answer it.
>>283037032>has zero thematic contentThe theme is that Kenjaku wanted to have sex with Sukuna for so long he made up a whole plan to try (and kinda fail but not totally) to fuck his twin's reincarnation instead. Even Sukuna was disgusted.
>>283043391NTA but that's not a theme, that's a subplot
>>283012906>good character designs>interesting powers>all meat, no fat>extremely memeable/hype moments
>>283037032>like kenjaku being yujis mother, even though it's irritatingly stupid and has zero thematic contentIt doesn't need to be thematic, but it's coherent with the rest of the story.His grandpa tried to tell him about his parents in the very first chapter
>>283042091Thanks Mappa! For giving us:>Gojo wearing juicy lip gloss and expensive white mascara>Nanami with delicious biceps and fat butt cheeks>Choso showing his abs for no reason when he didn't do that in the manga>satosugu fujobait that wouldn't look out of place in a BL manga>casting Suwabe for Sukuna's roleSoon they will give us fanservice with Higuruma's bath scene by making his white shirt extra wet and transparent.
>>283043405>the manga's themes are love and curses>one of the antagonists is driven by his love for Sukuna's cock and ballsNo it all makes sense to me.
It reminds of me of dragon ball in the sense that it’s a pure battle shonen, it’s 100% fighting. This leaves no room melodrama but one of the biggest criticisms at least here were the lack of bonding and levity moments between the trio
>>283032417>>283035102Gay
>>283034924aka how to attract third worlders
>>283043658If you cannot appreciate the true bond shared only between brothers you are not white
>>283024508Femanon...
It contains nobara kugisaki, besto girl
>>283044012Why was she such a violent thug?
>>283044214She's just kind of a silly goblin
>>283012906It's one of the few anime where something actually fucking happens
>>283017780that's something i was a bit bummed about. the mangaka clearly has talent to design them so idk why he didnt. was it for fujo pandering? Kengan Ashura was a good balance of equaly attractive men and women for example
>>283043658This is the guy who watches moeshit and calls it high art
>>283044299>>283043416So it doesn't have any annoying filler? why does /a/ shit on it so much then?
>>283045884"No fat" is an intentional analogy. It's not just about getting more meat, it changes the texture.When you cut out a lot of the SoL stuff there's far less time for character moments and character interactions. They still exist in a couple of places, but they're a handful of pages in a handful of chapters compared to having entire chapters dedicated to relationship dynamics. The fights are also actually fights rather than 10 pages of monologuing for every 2 pages of action.If you're not a fightfag, then the whole thing will seem very dry compared to more character focused stories.Also for completeness:>/a/ is full of contrarian faggots>there aren't any obvious fanservice/waifu characters>the pacing/plot of the second half of the story is pretty fucked because of a major event in the middle of the story>there isn't much to discuss about it in general outside of dickriding it so threads tend to die pretty quickly
>>283045884Because /a/ watches things that are riddled with filler.
>>283017502I think part of it is that JJK leaves something to be desired. All the time. Hidden Inventory is way better than any events after that, but you get the feeling that any of the characters could a main character of their own. We have Yuki who is a special grade sorcerer and a barely relevant jobber, yet I'd watch a spin-off of her just riding around with her motorcycle and accidentally pushing a silly teen boy to become the main villain.
>>283045884/a/ is full of outcasts and losers. They hate things because they are popular. Those types are also supposed to be in tune with anime/manga but they didn't "get" JJK so its massive popularity hit them personally again. I was in the threads from the start and it was very comfy before it became well known. I mean, is it even unpopular on /a/? Threads are always full and have plenty of support. I think it is a handful of anons that got so butthurt about JJK they even paid for a 4chan ad at one point. They seethe very loudly.
>>283020136it's not good enough to be HxH and YYK, that's the problem
>>283036019>MHA
>>283012906the guys are hot
>>283020156>One Piece
>>283022221wife coded
>>283046899Of course, it doesn't reach HxH, but I feel like it's a close approximation of what a modern YYK would like, down to the story kinda collapsing in the last third due to lack of interest and motivation. What Gege is lacking rn is polish, he needs a couple of short runs under his belt to really push himself now imo
If you faggots just want to watch women talking then go watch the view or hallmark channel
>>283046899I've read all the way past the true hunter exam and there was genuinely nothing of value in any part of HxHI have no idea what people see in it
Even as a tourist>Jogo vs Sukuna>Sukuna vs Mahoraga>Yuta and Yuji vs SukunaAre all top tier fight, I have no idea about the story but the fight are so good, that is one thing JJK do REALLY well and it know that is the selling point. I am not surprised it was popular
>>283012906>"Nah, I'd win">loses
Yuki was completely wasted
>>283042048Unbreakable vows mid-combat are the worst part of the whole system and taint the entire work
It's just a bit of equivalent exchange. Its overblown and is mostly just technique adjustment, the barrier is stronger on the outside. Or the barrier is stronger because it's smaller, more concentrated. The one that trades future potential is the outlier
>>283050951The future potential trade was already introduced earlier by Miwa, actually.Arguably, you could interpret Yuji's Enchain vow with Sukuna as this as well, since it robbed Yuji of the future potential of not giving over control to Sukuna.
>>283051351God, Miwa was useless...
>>283041851Yuji ate the 4-9 Death Painting Wombs with Choso's permission.
>>283051501Just like we wanted
>>283012906becasue it's dimwitcore
>>283051351True enough. I was just trying to be fair to both takes. Trading future potential is a bit more nebulous than trading with things you actually have.
>>283051501What the fuck was she thinking here?How on earth are they going to adapt this in the anime?
>>283052664>What the fuck was she thinking here?>"Boy, I hope I find Yuta soon so I can tell him about the changed rule priorities."
>>283050272woman in wsj battle shonen
>>283050272She's a side character
>>283045814why bother when nobody cares about them anyway
>>283045814>>283055691Its just the rough and straight line drawing style no character was favored or drawn differently.
>>283012906aura farming
>>283012906its only popular among korean zoomersyou see they found a completely dogshit manga and artificially inflated its popularity by reading it ironicallythis put japans retardation on the world stagenow whenever people think of anime they think of jujutslop instead of something actually goodand just as the interest for it starts to die down they release solo leveling and mog JKnow normies think of anime and think of solo leveling(korea) instead of JK(japan)
>>283016937>clarityLOL
>>283058261Animeonlies wouldn't understand. For some reason. I had no idea reading manga was a skill before you 'people'
JJK has so many memorable moments that fans from other fandoms consistently do crossover redraws of it's panels.
yes
>>283058855key-ute
>>283012906>powerscalers like it because of the Gojo vs. Sukuna stuff>girls like it because Gojo is hot and there's fujobait in Gojo and Geto>casualfags like it because the anime's well-produced (minus some bumps in S2) and S1 came out during the pandemic>this and Demon Slayer is the first battle shonen for a whole population of kids and teens so they don't have a frame of reference for what is better or worse in a battle shonen
>>283012906>ONLY UNIQUE AND ORIGINAL WORKS ARE ALLOWED TO BE POPULARShut the fuck up, retard.
>>283044012who?? this bitch has less screentime than Hinata
What was JJK's legacy? Giving anime tourists a new appreciation for actual storytelling? It's Boruto ass sequel?
>>283058696>>283061189Honestly, JJK did have a lot of memes that get a lot of crossover usage, like the infamous 'Nah, I'd win', the triple domain expansion spread, the 'brought out 120% of their potential' spread, potential man, etc.
OP here, I decided to rewatch this and have been binging it, I have to say it really picks up towards the end of season 1 and after that.
>>283012906I like it more than most battle shounens I've watched because the characters and powers are cool, it's really that simple. On the other hand MHA had insufferable characters and really boring powers while having no story
>>283061189>What was JJK's legacy?Memes.Gojo is seen as the "correct" way to write the strongest fighter in the setting.
>>283012906It's fun, it's just a fun dumb series
>>283061189It already inspired Kagurabachi.
>>283063018Is that why Kagurabachi is so painfully forgettable and lacking in originality? Should've been inspired by Togashi or Fujimoto instead
>>283063018Does that have characters as cool as JJK?
>>283063113I cannot remember a single name from that series.
>>283063113>283063018(me)Not really. MC and Samura are good.
>>283063091Ooh, tough guy likes the /a/ approved authors. How original
>>283063159I am the toughest
