#217 "Two Good People"Dumphttps://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1026442
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don't worry guys, FC is not debunked yet
>Asa's dad cheated on her momInfidelity mention AGAIN. Holy shit. Denji being unfaithful is going to actually be a thing??
>this crap>breakClassic Fuji
>>283022224It was brought up earlier when Reze cited him “thinking of another girl” before ripping his tongue out.
>>283022215
garbage
Nice to know that Asa agrees with her mom that unfaithful men should be unceremoniously killed.
Well what do you know, that really was Asa's momAsa had a dad Asa is human and not a devilFC is deconfirmed once and for allP doesn't understand how genetics work and is the most retarded poster in all of /csm/
LAUGH AT FC KEKS
erm whaaaat? I thought Asa's mom was a hallucination like in the movie Fight Club?
Only decent chapter in this manga's history.
>>283022245Yeah no, I ain't believing that bitch. She was just a greedy ass whore. Glad Asa saved a cat over her ass.
>>283022245
Worthless chapter, Fujimoto really was a fraud, what was the point of adding Asa fell on purpose when her mom killed him for personal reasons
waiter waiter more breaks please
>nothingburger chapter>another breakJust end this shit already.
>>283022245>>283022215>Asa’s mom was likewise killed by a heavy blunt object during a Devil-related incidentKino.
Child Asa was pretty cute despite being a murderous monster, why did she turn into a tranny when she became a teenager?
>>283022218Nah. As much as I love the idea, it's even more dead than Falling's 'Human and War Devil Fusion' comment. I went into the chapter with the expectation it would be debunked in full and that's regrettably what I got.
>>283022257Is Denji going to be killed for being unfaithful?
The fucking difference between fujimoto’s half assed thick line work and the backgrounds is always so jarring. Worse than current Oda’s and togashi’s scribbles. I guess the movie didn’t motivate Fujimoto at all. He’s just expecting mappa to buff up all of part 2
So it's likely that Asa killed her mother by tripping on purpose.
>>283022281Chapter End. Break next week ...
FC chads, hold the coin
>>283022310Unfaithful to whom
>>283022215>>283022245>>283022281Denji's going to get killed by Asa like her mom killed her dad. The cheating has been a recurring thing since Mr. Tanaka and Prez. Asa has darkness in her heart too, Denji cucked her with Yoru, Fumiko's nude, Death's panties, Memories of Reze, and Brothel Whores..
>>283022310The fucking Fumiko selfie is going to doom Denji lmao
>>283022311More like his assistants did most of the work back then
>>283022315what on earth has happened in that panel
>>283022165her mom n yoru think the same>>283022264tht would b yoru who i base o her mom
>>283022315>Break next weekWHYIT'S A FUCKING 14 PAGE CHAPTER AFTER A BREAK WEEK
Let's all laugh at FC retards (P)I'll start
>>283022285she hated her dad for personal reasons you moron she LITERALLY says it
>>283022315Yoru’s going to lose since the hostages got released yesterday. God bless the Peacemakers.
>>283022315I LOVE ASA!!!!!!! <3 <3 <3
Thats it?What was the fucking point of that chapter
>>2830223151000 YORU DEATHGASMShttps://files.catbox.moe/ktmet2.jpg
>>283022349That we should stop expecting anything from this fraud and i will from now
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>>283022215Asa is mindbroken
>>283022315>breakARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME FUJIMOTO YOU FAT FUCK
>>283022315Don't care about the Momsa and Asa stuff. Only thing that made be good what the fuck was Denji saying he staged the suicide. Like I thought it was the yakuza who made it look like a suicide just so that they can have a debt slave.>>283022349Fujimoto: DONT YOU SEE HOW SIMILAR ASA AND DENJI ARE?
>>283022165Based chappyBeen a while since we got Asakino
>>283022315Asa will kill Denji with the power of L.O.V.E
>>283022224>>283022197>>283022215>asa's dad spent his final life moments protecting her>yet it doesn't undo the damage he did or that's he's a terrible person>in the end, life truly only ever got better after his deathHmmm... I wonder who this will be a parallel to...
>*What was the point?* asked the illiterate, for they could not interpret the meaning in front of their eyes.
>>283022245Denji is so fucked
Didn't P promise a naked dogeza with a timestamp if FC is debvunked?
>Two toxic people>Two good peopleI'm noticing.
>>283022338What a dumb piece of shit promoting a dumb fucking theory
>>283022310The horsewomen are all sisters making them count as one.
>>283022315You're a disgusting subhuman Denji.
>>283022174Um FCtards, what's this?
>>283022315I wish we hadn't gone on through so much shit to get here because this is a nice little moment. Feels like we're back at the aquarium.God, everything between then and now feels like such a fucking blur.
>>283022281>I don't know whether my mom was a bad person or notShe crushed the guy's head with a rock, come on now.
>>283022349THE
>Denji after killing his dad somehow managed to make it look like he hung himselfThis is retarded.
Uh oh Amachu melty.
>one of the biggest character moments in p2 so far>anons saying nothing happenedThread filled with shonenshitters holy shit.
>>283022315KINOsa always gives us amazing chapters
>>283022338it's been dead for years though
>>283022332Pretty sure it's a visual clue that Asa is going to be more selfish and evil yet Denji is able to let go of his sins or something? Or it's another art error, idfk with fijiwater anymore.
>>283022393>NOO, I'M A GOOD BOY!>ASA YOU CAN BE NUMBER 10 ON MY LIST OF GIRLFRIENDS!>DID YOU NOT SEE ME SACRIFICE MY LEG FOR YOU EVEN THOUGH I'M IMMORTAL?!>AIIIEE, SUPER DENJI CHAINSAW!
Why is the paneling so pretentious? Why can't the author be more straight to the point? It always seems like he's trying too hard.
CRAPPYCHAPPY
>>283022338Not the first time this shit happens but at least someone bothered to dab on them
>>283022315Honest question, is Fuji going to go for a happy (sad) ending for Asa/Denji or is this going to wind up being Aki part 2? With CSM being as big as it is would Editor-devil even allow him to end it like, say Fire Punch?
>>283022285>>283022293I like this because it shows Asa isn't as normal as we think. Part 2 has her as an opposite to Denji in that she's (relatively) more normal, yet this part of her Backstory connects her better to him in that they both have tragic pasts and are weighed down by guilt.
>>283022293she was?
>>283022427Just tie a rope around his neck and say you cut him down
>>283022447I know, but Poo still hung to a threadFC severed that thread for good by showing that Asa was a human with a human father and mother and that her tripping had nothing to do with the War Devil K to the E to the K and finally to the ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
this shit is so fucking slow and uninteresting
>>283022315I don't understand what's the message of this chapter. That they are both shit people?
Best chappy in a while because there’s no fuckass cliffhanger
>>283022411>You're a disgusting subhuman Denji.Well, yes he is, but that is the whole point of regresing to his kid form, KIDji doesn't know about his future scummy ways.
>>283022427>60 iq uneducated child manages to hatch a clever scheme>malnourished skeleton child manages to kill his dad AND frame it as a suicideFujimoto truly, sincerely doesn't give a fuck anymore
>>283022281Wtf?The dad lost his leg because he tried to protect Asa.He is an asshole but in the moment between life and death he proved himself to be capable of fatherly love.And Asa didn't give a fuck? Who is the scum here? A father who managed to redeem himself, or a daughter who is too cold hearted to give her dad a chance?
All laugh at Pee
>>283022315Our fuarking morally conflicted protagonists.AsaDen gets confirmed with each chapter.Its not fightclub with tyler and jack,Its picrel.Fujimoto is going for cringekino.
>>283022444And that's probably her mom's and the caretaker's fault.
>>283022430Excellent eyes, Excelsior
>>283022471And what about the stab wounds retard?
>>283022338How long have they been saying this again? For over a year now? Lmao
>>283022421>She crushed the guy's head with a rock, come on now.She refuses to judge her mom because then she would have to judge herself and accept that she's a piece of shit, since she also tried to kill her dad by delaying help.
>>283022467There's a good idea there, but fuck we took a god damn circuitous path getting here
That's it? That was Asa's dream reveal? Shart Poo fucking sucks dicks holy shit
>>283022338Lmeowwwwwww
>>283022301She was dragged into the ugly world of adults, she never really got over it.>>283022314Maybe, it's nice to see it that way as a twist, her using her powerlessness as a way to bring reckoning. It could also manifest as an unintentional habit.
What’s the moral here?
>>283022224Take into account that it was said by his wife, who also killed him
The Yorugasms are getting more and more intense boys... this might lead to something
>>283022491And why the fuck would Denji even care enough in moment to frame it?, this makes no sense...
>>283022514Millions are saying this
>>283022495They didn't say he was protecting her. He was just the first one it attacked when it caught them by surprise.
>>283022495Justice for asaDAD
>cheating on a 10/10 with the perfect face/tits/hips/butt/legs comboI call bullshitHe got killed for being a NEET and she told the cheating lie to make herself feel better
Only thing good about this chapter it finally permanently killed the long lost sibling bullshit theory.That would have been total ass
>>283022427The world is too fucked up for the prope investigation.
>>283022523Fuck morals and don't marry greedy bitches
>>283022483Nothing we didn't know before honestly, that's one of the reasons Part 2 is failing so hard.
>>283022315>Break next weekIm going to kill tatsuki fujimoto
>>283022315Why didn't he make Asa a kid like Denji in this dream? Would have been much better.
Why does this nigga take so many breaks
>>283022288>>283022349>>283022369I've been following weekly since Part 1 began and this might be the first time I've thought a chapter was legitimately badThis was actually the worst and most nothingburger chapter in the entirety of the series until now, the fact that we have another break after 14 pages of nothing is insane
>>283022315Every single interaction Denji has with women in part 2 is empty and soulless. This manga fucking sucks.
>>283022444>That's a plotpoint since the startAsa being a human was a plotpoint since the start.
Okay, I take back half the hate I threw at Fujimoto. I'll remove all of it when Asa wins and lives a happy life.
>>283022338KEKAROOOOO
>>283022514You're right, we already knew this whole "oh I'm such a bad person" from her final encounter with yuko, this adds nothing.At best, it might push her to actually kill people (this should have happened 100 chapters ago)
>>283022559He's watching Reze movie on repeat
>>283022498Shut the fuck up already Alex
>>283022245So this is where the "if the heart is in the right place" bullshit comes from
Great chapter, huge sales boost. Part 2 is a masterpiece. Why are you crying haters?
>>283022498Kekarooo
>>283022523All women are evil.
>>283022315When was the last time Asa laughed? Yuko?
>>283022427>>283022491Didn't Makima say the adults made it look like a suicide so the debt would get passed to Denji and he wouldn't be taken away by the authorities?
>>283022281
>>283022546Granted, he molesting Asa would have been a better reason to crush his head with a boulder.
>>283022589>Part 2 is a masterpiecekek
>break week>again
>>283022595In aging devil's world when she's having a mental breakdown.
Asa tripped on Bucky on purpose
>>283022495I'm sorry your reaction to your parenting was Stockholm Syndrome. The father is objective scum.
>ofw
>>283022601Fuji is a hack...
>>283022315Denji is a goos boy.
>>283022523Don't be a male in a Fujimotor story, you're just gonna get killed horribly by your child or wife.
>>283022595Stop posting early part 2 art. It makes me angry at how bad it's become.
>>283022427>>283022601Retconjimoto...
>>283022224>>283022393>Denji being unfaithful is going to actually be a thing??Denji basically abandoned Nayuta to fuck whores.Its a pretty common opinion here that Nayuta would be better without Denji, it would be pretty interesting if Fujimoto also shares it.
>>283022585Your heart isn't in the right place when you murder people for money.
>>283022498>FC dedGood riddance
>>283022602Looking cuter than normal there
>>283022349Never noticed how this guy's kinda handsome under the costume.
Asa tripping on purpose to kill her dad kinda reframes her whole tripping thing, but it does raise some questions. Did she trip on purpose with Bucky? probably not because Prez tripped her, Yoru did say that Asa didn't feel guilty about killing him and only being seen doing it...which ties to her killing her father.Did Asa trip on purpose with Yuko? it nearly got both her and Yuko killed.Did Asa trip on purpose in the PS facility? it jeopardized the mission and nearly got her killed as well.
>>283022636I mean, I don't think being a bad dad means you should have your head bashed in with a rock
to the anons saying>nothingburger chapterthe fuck were your expectations?we got a backstory reveal, that is already somethingwere you expecting the manga to end or what?or a full chapter of War CSM fighting in jjk style [which would actually be a nothingburger]?now I do get being pissed at break week into 14 pages into break week
I’m scared I’m gonna be too autistic to hang with the other anons going to see the Reze movie
>be dad>drink a bit too hard sometimes but whatever >see daughter attack by a devil>protect daughter >wife comes over after killing the devil, pretty hot>only lost lower part of my leg but I can just buy a prosthetic with insurance money>wife stones me to death infront of daughter >fucking bitch, hope greddy wife dies from a strong devilThe tale of Dadsa, a real human bean and a real hero.
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This moment is more emotionally impactful than all of reze arc
>>283022657Last pages just reminded me of this moment....
>>283022601Makima was an idiot
>>283022315>>283022407>>283022411>>283022483I see a sins of the father thing going on. They are introduced to how shitty people and the world can be, infected by the negativity of their parents. They end up killing them/leading to their deaths yet it doesn't improve them as a person. They end up in their own personal hell (Asa an orphan and Denji stuck working for the yakuza), it's a cycle and they finally start to realize it for what it is, laughing in e exasperation.>>283022488Kidji is the most honest version of himself, his inner self. While Denji represses part 1 and his past, Kidji can fully admit what he did. That's why Denji was told not to open the door, for the most terrible thing lay behind it: the truth.
>>283022595The dream's purpose ended up being this shit but with denji lmao
>It's ok to kill a man if he is a NEET and a cheater.>so it's ok to kill DenjiNo wonder Powercuck is seething.
>2 weeks for this
>>283022632Did she? What would be the point?
>>283022245>woman moment
>>283022559Lazy nigger syndrome
TOTAL!!!!!CUTESA!!!!!!HAPPINESS!!!!!!!!!
>>283022686>or a full chapter of War CSM fighting in jjk style [which would actually be a nothingburger]?HOLY cope. There's a reason CSM is an all-time flop and JJK is one of the most popular shonen manga of all time.
Great chapter, gonna go kill my dad now
AsaDen is so forced Fuji has to retcon Denji's backstory for it work keky.
>UNEMPLOYED>DESIRES OTHER WOMEN>ADDICTED TO HIS DICK>SOMETIMES VIOLENT WITH A CHAIRSayonara Denji, and hello to a better life without you.
>>283022693Can we scrap Denji and follow this guy's story instead?
Nobody likes Shitsa.Bring back Power, Reze, and Kobeni.
>>283022495You can still do good things as an asshole, doesn't change the wrong things you did. Who says he'll change his ways and not revert back if he did live?
>>283022601Kekaro, HACK.
I hate Part 2 so much lads
>>283022507Way longer than that, like three years at least
>>283022393I legitimately have no idea which character you meanare you even talking about a character? do think it's some sort of commentary on a politician?
>>283022693Meme aside I think the whole point is that Asa family are full of assholes.Fujimoto strikes a horrible truth: just because someone is a victim doesn't mean they are innocent.
>>283022660Amachu was always right, she predicted part 2 has a heavy focus on unfaithfulness.Asa won't forget Denji has been cucking her for the entirety of part 2.
>>283022728So we can all agree that before this chapter we were under the assumption that the Yakuza made it look like Denji's dad hung himself?
FCucks...
>>283022510I like to think Asa tripped intentionally too to lead to her mom's death. They both ruined her and her mindset, but the damage was already done.
Everybody suffers or is a shitty person and no one ever grows. Bravo Hackimoto.
>>283022670momsa looks cute here
>>283022338LMAOOOOOOO
>>283022523That Asa made the mistake of judging herself based on "objectively" good and bad deeds. Her conflict is that she empathizes why her mother did an objectively evil deed, but she doesn't consider herself a bad person.Denji in turn, demonstrates that he might've done something evil but is completely assured that he is still a good person deep down.See: pic related
>>283022705Don't even know why there were so many chickens that kept on piling up if 'I wanted to kill my dad' was the whole sum of it.
>>283022708You might be onto something...
>>283022543Jesus Christ, Kizaru
>>283022281>I tripped and fell on purpose.Oh Asa...How could you? I'm disappointed in you...
>>283022774Brvtal
>>283022743Doesn't justify Asa wanting him dead.She is an ungrateful bitch.
>>283022281>>283022285>I Tripped and feel on purposethis actually recontextualize the whole manga since it implies things like Asa killing Bucky on purpose
>>283022768They aren't even in a relationship. Are you seriously hedging your bets on that schizo?
>>283022748We all do anon, we all do.
>>283022511I like the idea that no one really is normal in this verse. Aki is hellbent on revenge, miri refuses to see what is in front of him and is extremely blinded to the faults of his cause, and most veteran devil hunters are broken inside.
So the Fumiko nude is going to slip out of his pocket and Asa will see it, right?
>>283022444There's not a lot of ambiguity about smashing someone's skull with a rock for insurance money because they cheated. I mean, I have no sympathy for people who cheat but I wouldn't immediately opt to brain them. Even psychopaths, sociopaths and apd schizos would be able to tell you that someone who does that is at least probably not a good person. You are quoting what's been written at face value and not thinking critically here. This is just Asa being disingenuous if anything, its quite obvious she was afraid of her mother, and there's no doubt she believed her to be at least "not good." I'm not saying she's truly evil per se... but come on now.
>>283022780How strong are the Mitaka genes? Her kid looks like a copy paste of her looks.
>>283022708Pee is itself a NEET, and didn't he cheat on his gf with a femanon here? Such a shitty guy
>>283022427>>283022491>>283022550You guys forget that the Yakuza was also involved on it and cover up as well, because they wanted the money from the debt of Denji's father with them willing to make Denji pay for it.
>>283022780Would let her bash my head in with a rock
>>283022444>>283022526>>283022603>>283022695>>283022734Today I REMIND XHIM
>>283022174>>283022215>>283022245>mother is a way cooler version of her daughterWhy is this always the case?
>>283022764It's just the usual denji hater schizophrenia screaming about how Asa is gonna kill him and how denji is a piece of shit and blah blah blah
>>283022807He was 100% molesting her but the editor scrapped that part at the last second.
>>283022466At this point I think that Asa and Denji will have a happy ending while everybody else get screwed
>>283022736Sure. I swear this is like the seventh time someone from these theatres wished to follow my writings.>>283022765While true(step parents, parents, some friends are assholes to me and others in general) this chapter kind of makes me see where the "it's just misery porn" people are coming from just a bit now.
>>283022733Denji is literally Asa's dad
The hardest task in Chainsaw man is to find someone that is a decent human being.They are all assholes.
>>283022558women are mentally children>>283022224>Denji being unfaithful is going to actually be a thing??lol he wont ever get his dick wet
>>283022725>muh numbers>muh popularitynigger Endgame is the highest grossing movie of all timeIdk you get off on the fact your series is popular, you do youthat doesn't change the fact 50 straight chapters of jjk is just character vs Sukuna which add nothing to the story and can be not read, because they don't give any info you need to know to get the ending, definition of nothing meaningful happens
>>283022601Fujimoto forgot
>>283022822The woman psychopathy is hereditary for sure, at least.
>>283022660Schoolar.
>>282718794 >>282717416
>>283022827>You guys forget [MY RETARDED HEADCANON]Uh huh
>>283022850>theatresThreadsI fucking hate the auto correct devil.
>>283022845Do we really need more sexual assault? It would be even more hacky than it already is
>>283022864Me too, I am pretty disappointed with Denji and Asa turning out to be assholes as well.
8/10 chapterProbably better than all chapters in the last 6 months
>>283022427what is it with this specific manga and speed readers? it's so strange
>>283022786Oh yeah, even the chickens went nowhere. This might be worse than Denji's door
Fujimoto takes breaks cus he eats and watches movies a lot
>>283022444>Asa doesnt know how to tell good from bad apartThat's bullshit btw, humans have an innate moral compass
>>283022768Damn she was right
>>283022510True. Well put, slowreader.
>>282719470
>>283022827>You guys forget that the Yakuza was also involved on itYou're a retard, how and why did kid Denji manage to tie a noose around his dads neck and hang him from the ceiling?
>>283022889there's never enough sexual assault.
>>283022864Makima was a true hero.
>>283022768>IMBA Shitji choses Yoru over Asa
seeing romance blossoming between a teenager and an actual child brokenly laughing over a deep shared trauma… what’s going on man
>>283022609That's the second plot twist, now Denji and Asa can be buddies in childhood molestation
>>283022883See >>283022601
>>283022913>why did kid Denji manage to tie a noose around his dads neck and hang him from the ceiling?didnt the yakuza helped?
>>283022883Also Makima's headcanon apparently
I wonder how much of this is inspired by Chi no Wadachi, Fujimoto is a fan of Oshimi.
>>283022765>Fujimoto strikes a horrible truth: just because someone is a victim doesn't mean they are innocent.Yeah, the problem is that he already used this idea before, like a lot.
>>283022315KINOOOOOO
>>283022782there you go that's the chapter
>>283022880>>283022912
>>283022835Keky
so Asa wanted to kill her dad and caused the death of her mother...what a devilish thing to do for a lil girl
>>283022933Then why did Denji say he did it?
>>283022777Yup, I have to give it to fuji, this is well done. Recontextualising her backstory with what we now know, its quite obvious she intended to allow her mother to die. The real question however, is what about Bucky
>>283022554Did we know Denji killed his father?
This chappy was great, I wonder if we're seeing more AsaDen or if this chapter will be all fighting. Maybe YoruChita memories too
lol Absolute shit chappyBecome Fumiko
>>283022315Asa for final villain confirmed.It's going to be shown that Denji's reason for killing his dad was far more justifiable than what Asa & her mother did. At the end of the day, HEROji is all we need.
>Asa trips on purpose>Asa tripped while saving Crambon>This led to her mom dying after trying to protect herWhat did she mean by this?
>>283022965Asa was probably terrified of her mother, given >>283022215 and >>283022245
>>283022967the way i interpret it>denji kills his dad>yakuza found the body>make it look like a suicide
>>283022967It's simpler to explain
Fuck it. It's literally written worse than anime about idol bands
>>283022679I could see it becoming an unintentional habit to bite her back, like the boy who cried wolf. She did it to allow her bad father to die, and probably did it to kill her bad mother too. But in the end she couldn't stop doing it.
>>283022972Bro...
>>283022276She saved the cat bc her mother was a bad person that did not deserved to be savedKINO
>>283022979Yoru is currently the scum Asa needs to kill to live her life happily.
>>283022774Kill yourself, FC made more sense than this trash reveal I lost all faith in Fujimoto
>>283022558Denji got mentally stunted as a child, Asa continued to grow. Denji's inner self is still that feral child, while Asa's inner self is her current self, with all her accumulated experiences.
>>283022797>I tripped and fell on purpose.Its actually a very important reveal, she will trip again in the future in an important moment, and that can even involve Denjis death. Will she trip on purpose again?...
>>283022880>>283022912Pee is going to pretend these posts don't exist, chief
>>283022913Remember that Denji had his memory of his father's death all messed up because he believed that he killed himself until Makima told him the truth.
>>283022495>Who is the scum here?Everyone in the family. It's hard to tell who's the bigger scum though since we don't see any of what the dad does and just have to take their word for it. If "violent" means actually beating them then you can't complain if they take a chance to escape after seeing an opportunity, if you're a shitty enough person then there's really nothing you can do to get forgiveness from the people you hurt. If he would get drunk and just hit some tables then, while bad, it's not kill him or intentionally leave him to die levels of bad especially after saving her life.
>>283022986Asa made a bet, she wanted to know if her mom will save her after tripping on purpose.
>>283022941I know, and that's bullshit and you're either understanding it wrong or fujimoto is retarded, because humans do have an idea of what is right and wrong, it's called conscience
My mom asked me if I did the dishes as she told me"Fujimoto", I simply repliedShe knew they were not washed
>>283022780that was a certified Yoru moment from the mom... no wonder Asa was weak to her influences.
>>283022986>Trips on purpose again while carrying Bucky
im glad that the chainsawman2 continues to prove that rating 1/10 is deserved
>>283023015>FCkekOH NO NO NO
>>283023008>Read the mangaYour right to say this to anyone has been revoked after this chappy Mr. "Asa is totally the War Devil"
>>283022686Asa got focus and Backstory, while Yoshida practically got nothing in the way of Backstory, so I consider it a win. She is the protag after all.
>>283023015Kekaroooo
>>283022979Asaden is over bro
>>283022835Powercuck HATED this one.
>>283022841Milfs are for repeatedly Impregnation
>>283022725Thank god, JJK epilogue gave a better conclusion after the disapointing end, even the sequel is getting interesting, fujimoto should take some notes
LMEOW
>>283022315RATE THIS CHAPTERWHO WON?WHO LOST?HOPIUM OR COPIUM FOR NEXT CHAPTER?
>>283023044Reze movie tricked many into giving Part 2 a chance and it lasted for about 3 chapters
To be fair, you need to have an IQ/EQ of atleast 100 to truly understand and appreciate CSM Part 2
SmallSaCuteSa
>>283023040Yeah, after this chapter it's even more obvious that Asa's relationship with Yoru mirrors her relationship with her mother.
>>283023015Literally coping and seething
It's funny to see you haters trying to find new arguments now that you can't use the sales factor anymore
I'll say it, I think that is prob justified, like one good deed does not make a asshole of a person be a good person...And also I think Part 2, like Part 1 is better off binge reading, So call me whatever you want you fucking shitty ashtrays.
>>283022534Asa kills Denji stocks keep RISING
>>283023077>IQ/EQ of atleast 100FCsisters he is not talking about us...
>>283023005>>283023047Asa's mom was the real drunk and abuser and gaslit Asa into believing it was her dad.KINO KINO KINO
>>2830230738/10
>>283023072P is going to commit suicide...
>>283023070ah, you're just baiting ig
How did people still think FC was a thing? Didn't you guy see that FC is missing from the scholarly reading list?
>>283023054>Yoshida practically got nothing in the way of Backstoryhe did anon, reread the chapter where he dies.
>>283022315So many death flags for Asa.
Here we have Denji who wants to eat his cake and have it too (chosen both options when one is possible) while Asa is a risky opportunist who would sacrifice something that's been harmful to her for a chance at a much better life even if it's morally gray.I assume that Asa, if she could, would get rid of Denji AND Yoru for the sake of her outer peace.It might scar her badly but her life might outwardly be better for it.
>>283022808Wouldnt make sense, Yoru said Asa felt guilty because she was seen doing it
>>283023015>I lost all faith in Fujimoto>He still had faith>>283023008FC cuck malding.
Pee lives rent-free inside your head, Alex
>>283023015>Past showing Asa's childhood and mother >Death: Asa is human and her human morals will slip>Falling: Asa is human and her situation with Yoru is a fusion between War Devil and human>Poopy: "THIS IS HOW FC CAN STILL WORK"
>>283023049got to love when people freak out because their headcanon didn't turn out to be true.i don't think we're done with the alleyway yet, anyways. they're clearly going to have a dialogue between asa and denji that goes along with the fight.
REMINDER! P said Asa's mother isn't real and that it was a hallucination of herself.
Asa's dad was not deserved to be brutally killed like that I agree. But Asa at least still got some devil hunters for him in the end. And yeah Asa's Mom was not a good person, that's why she kinda got punished later.
>KILL YOUR FATHERSFuji is really crazy Fucking trany
>>283023073>>283023073>RATE THIS CHAPTER7.5/10>WHO WON?Anti-FC chads>WHO LOST?Pee (FCuck)>HOPIUM OR COPIUM FOR NEXT CHAPTER?More Pee humiliation
>>283023074asa is not a psychopath howbeit
>>2830230739/10>LostP and FCucks>WonEveryone else because Fujimoto cooked
>>283023070Dude, the JJK Modulo outright had the interest tanked due nobody wanted to see more Yuta and Maki wank with the only thing being talked mostly is Yuji and the epilogue didn't solve anything.
If memories are fake then FC is still possible.
>>283023076>movie so good it convinces viewers to give the manga another chance >fuji fails to capitalize on his one chance at redemption by delivering multiple pointless nothing chapters in a rowHe's trying to get CSM axed, I just know it
if you take this chapter as asaden shipping fuel you’re fucking weird lmfao
P will now proceed to ignore how FC was completely and utterly BTFO this chappy by clinging onto his Asaden ship. Don't let him live down this embarrassment
>>283022224>T-minus 5 chapters
>>283022693Kinda forgot he cheated on her and got violent. You can kinda tell who the men/incels are by those defending him. Maybe he didn't deserve to get killed exactly, but he wasn't a model father. And that doesn't mean asa's mom was a saint too, the only victim is Asa who got dragged into their petty shit and learned the wrong lessons.>>283022765That's the whole point here, both of asa's parents are terrible people, the orphanage failed her too. She needs to escape it all.
>>283022986At this point, it's pretty clear that Asa tripping in any critical situation was her doing it on purpose, yet retards will still go "wtf pointless chapter?!?!?!?" despite it basically recontextualizing asa's actions throughout part 2
>>283023167You sound scared
>>283023130Kek it's true he fucking said that
>>283022231LMAOOOOOO
>>283023128>Death: Asa is human and her human morals will slipI would say it foreshadows Denijs weaponization, but honeslty I don't think killing Denji is immoral at all.
>>283023089Part 2 sales received a lesser boost from the movie than from S1 despite the movie selling hundreds of times more, I wonder why.There's also no reason to salesfag until the next volume, all conclusions can already be made with existing data, part 2 won't suddenly get 1m sales.
>>283023005Her mother didn't need to be saved that time though.
>Fathers is badI didn't know that Fujimoto was a writer for Skyrim mod Enderal The whole plot is about bad fathers
>>283023172I will post about it everyday, boss.
>>283022778The thing part 2 is missing are hopeful moments, like the citizens giving csm their blood to revive and fight gunki. Though now it's probably going to be like "we just don't want to die" and shows that no, they are selfish and it wasn't a moment of altruism.
>>283022197>my mom killed my dad for moneyYes, that seems to be quite a big revelation to forget during the whole run of the manga. Almost like the author just made it up.
>>283022281Anons... why did she do it?
Literally what was the point of this nigga
>>283023162
>>283023070>JJK epilogue gave a better conclusion after the disapointing end, even the sequel is getting interesting,Why are you lying? The epilogue was a bunch of random and forgettable moments and Midulo is boring af (CSM pt 2 started a lot better than that).
>>283022780>>283023040so this is basically asa/yoru after becoming a mom?
>>283023005Why was she a bad person? As someone with an dadsa-like dad i can tell you she did nothing wrong
how did this chappy disprove FC?i find it to give even more evidence to it actually, at least the portion that the Yoru side is formed after Asas memory of her mother
>>283023167Eh, happens every arc. Denji and Asa share one moment and retards go>Bonding arc is hereAnd then they get no more moments until the next arc and also don't develop their characters
>>283023080this moment definitely feels like Yoru using similar type of "cold pragmatism" as Asa's mother did
>>283022315Dennis confirmed to clapping Asa’s cheeks in end.
>>283023192>Fathers are badBASADO!
https://x.com/v2TokyoGhost/status/1977587487674691856
flop
>>283023221a dadsa-like dad*
>>283023027Fujimoto played Silent Hill F
>>283023040MILFru...
>>283023167Bro, it's literally a "we're both pieces of shit, we deserve each other" type of thing happening, you must be blind to not see it.
>>283022224They're literally not dating
>>283022315KinoLudo even
>>283023172Detective, we will never let him rest twice in the same place ever again
>>283023209You wouldn't want to save your abusive piece of shit father either.
I SAID I FUCKING HATE SHART POO
>>283023190I Thought it would be a FC confirmation chapter
>>283023209It's funny because in these moments...Asa is screwing herself over more than anything. I think Asa has developed a masochist coping mechanism to punish herself for killing her father by tripping and falling on purpose to fuck herself over and never achieve happiness that she believes she doesn't deserve.
>>283022215was the rock necessary. He was going to bleed to death anyway
>>283023272Japan...South Korea...
>>283023266Anon, I'm talking about the birthday cake and race
>>283023210He'll be back, don't worry.
>>283023243>i think i’m in love with Reina Ueda2 million Koreans said this
>>283023177What exactly does it recontextulize? Tripping on purpose in those situations would have just gotten her killed. Bucky is the only one that kind of makes sense
>>283023183But people said the movie boost is being gigantic...?
Fumiden status?
>>283023232>>283023275>here is how FC can STILL WIN
>>283023209She was jealous of Mai's big cake (Asa was poor)She didn't want to win first place (her mom will make her pursue an athlete career to provide for them.
>>283023232>>283023275>He's comforting himself
>>283023209maybe she's a bad person
>>283023167Shippers will cling to anything.>>283023233>And then they get no more moments until the next arc and also don't develop their charactersThis won't happen again, once the Alley dream is over Asa will have decided to weaponize Denji.
>>283023166Just a little bit. I don't think that would take too much time.
>>283022315>SCVMji the ultimate SCUMBAG and psycho criminal confirmed.He has to be eradicated from this existence NOW!
>>283023234Yuko may have unironically saved Asa with her "heart in the right place" speech. It was because of that that Asa ignored her toxic mother (Yoru) to do something she believed was right, saving a friend in need.
>>283023260>we're both pieces of shitThis happened>we deserve each otherThis is shipfag headcanon
>>283023272I HEARD YOU SCHOLARI HEARD YOU AND MY KNEES BENTI HEARD YOU AND MY HEAD NODDED IN AGREEMENTI FUCKING HEARD YOU
>>283023119In Bucky's case, Asa didn't trip on her own, she was tripped by the Class President on Fire Devil's orders.
Is it just or are the doomfags in these threads kinda dumb?
I honestly do wonder what you fags want this chapter was good, it stablishes Asa was never normal nor a good person and also how she comes from a broken home since her mom was a psycho and her dad and abusive bum, and how that play a part in her tripping on porpuse so his had could die, this also puts into question all the times asa trip on part 2 as likely being done on porpuse either consciously or unconsciouslyand all of this makes her bond with Denji who klilled his abusive dad at a young age i don´t have a problem saying a chapter is shit but this one was fine, you retards are behaving as MCU fans who get uppity when the "leaks" or fan theories aren't true
>>283023167I have feeling this chapter they both will be punished together later. That will be the AsaDen ending for ya.
>>283022984He killed his dad and made it look like a suicide. That shit ain't heroic, but criminal.SCVMji's existence represents a danger.
>>283023232>>283023275Pathetic
>>283022807He got violent too.I know you have a male bias, but he isn't totally innocent.>>283022970Asa got screwed over by everyone. She, like Denji, has no idea of what's right or wrong because she had no one to teach her. Her dad made her life miserable, her mom neglected her and taught her that killing is OK as long as the person is a scumbag, the orphanage lady drowned a potential pet in front of her. She's never been taught anything, only talked down to or caught between petty adult drama. That's why she feels so disconnected, it's not as bad as Denji but there's still neglect going on.
>>283023219Make Kiga do the hard work
>they think kid denji is the real denjidelusional shipperbros..
>>283023025nta but i honestly dont remember if denji killed his dad or makima was just bullshiting kidji
>>283023323Calm down chu, go take a walk or something
>>283023218MILFsa
FC is still possibleAsa aka the War Devil killed her father and her mom covered for her Notice how Yoru is laughing with Asa at the end of the chappy
>>283023172Don't worry will remind that schizo... maybe 4ever.
>Asaden so shit Fuji has to stick them in pocket dimensions 3 times to make it work
>>283022417I'll start re reading Part 2 this instant, it's been too much time. Aside from being a nice little moment , it does feel thematic somehow, like I could where Asa's femcel views originated from
>>283023350anyone who reads a manga that they hate, has to be kinda dumb.if i don't enjoy something i'm reading i drop it instantly and never look back
>>283023290Asa said she forgot about it till this moment, it can be be explained as her trauma internalized as needing to trip when she's in a critical moment. So she had been fucking up because one time she did it on purpose but her mind repressed her decision but couldn't erase her actions.
>Fake memories are confirmedFCchads won again
>>283023350not more dumb than FCkeks that's for sure
>NO FIGHTAN OR AURA!?!>NOTHING HAPPENED BRO>BREAK!? FRAUDMOTO SUX
>>283023043She also tripped while trying to save Chainsawman in the Prison Break arc, does that mean she actually wanted Chainsawman to die?
>>283023153Yuta Maki wank stopped after the 2 chaps, now they focus on the chara, at least the epilogue has shown Yuji will live a good life with someone who loves him
Bros can I say somethingI actually... I actually liked this chappy and thought it was kino...
>>283023209TOTAL SHITSA DEATH
>>283023008Poower won't return. Scumji was an irredeemable piece of shit with a broken moral all this time.Just give up, P. You lost.
>>283023395Ok, now this is pretty funny
>p moving the goal post again Tells us about the color wheel horseman theory again p
male figure is le bad it's everywhere now in every fictional media now. so tiring
>>283023172P loses every week it's fine
>>283022224>momsa kills dadsa because he was cheating>yoru doesnt want denji finding another women
>>283023167>t. Rezeturd
>>283022601>retcons the climax of Part 1 and highest point of the series, just so that Asa won't look as bad for wanting her own father to dieDisgusting character, disgusting fans.
>>283023417Many are saying this
>>283023408Who are you quoting?
>>283023392devils don't have moms or dads retardbro
>>283023080Asa's mom used to cuck her?
>>283023392Also notice how devils always seemed to target Asa specifically >the devil seen in this chappy>Typhoon>Justice It's because they're trying to kill War
>>283023367No, Denji did in fact killed his father because Pochita was protecting him.
>>283023175CSM part 2, MEN are LE BAD, it reminds me that devil hunter who suddenly pulls out mysoginistic shit before dying
>>283023209>why did she do it?I'm more interested about this one:
>>283023404That makes sense
>>283023282 Very interesting interpretation here
>>283023392Yoru has been laughing since the fight beganAre all fcfags this retarded?
All Men Are Bastards and deserve to die
Are we actually supposed to think Asa isn't an unredeemable piece of shit for trying to get her dad killed?
>>283023073Best one in a long while.
>All the discussion is getting lost between the pornpostingsigh, at least wait for the new chapter thread to die
>>283023472asa...
>>283023392>>283023456>her momListen to yourself
>>283022589part 2 would be a would in an anime form.2 back to back chapters would be like five minutes in a single episode
>>283023393>Chapter between breaks.Shit looks grvm for SCVMji and the manga in general.Next will have the last 5 announcement. Tick tock poowerkeks.
Was there a game or something that released at the start of October? There's not much happening that requires all these breaks.
>>283023475It's supposed to be gray
Asa is a bad person.That's it. That's the entire message.Endgame is Denji x Shiga btw.
>>283023392
>>283022510Does this mean that Asa intentionally killed Bucky and just used "tripping" as an excuse?
>>283023393>FC will happen!>Asa won't kill Denji!>vnaghaa vagga = i want pawa
>>283023464Asa tried to leave Yuko behind and save herself
>>283023209>>283023464Coping mechanismIf she always trips and falls at critical moments, she can pretend and lie to herself, and tell herself that she didn't trip intentionally to kill her dad that one day
>>283023499How is this gray? The only gray part is on the father being a decent person despite his faults. Asa and her mom are pieces of shit
>>283023416No, the wank is still there because their grandchildren want to be Maki 2.0 and Yuta 2.0 respectively.
Anyways Asaden endgame
>>283023472Except YoshidALPHA and BaremCHAD. They didn't deserve to die.
TWO GOOD PEOPLE
>>283023494You should get changed
Chapter sucked cock like always but it was worth it to see powerfaggot and the rest of his pisscord get eternally BTFO.
>>283023498i know a new ninja gaiden game is getting released next week
>>283023260It looks more like Fujimoto doesn't know what to write, so he copies the characters trauma from the first part. Asa lost her cat just like Power, lost her family as Aki, and was glad that her father had died as Denji. What is this shit even about? It's just terrible
>>283023177Asa fell on Bucky on purpose, makes no sense, Bucky became friendly with her and was healing her loneliness.Asa fell with Yuko why? So both can die and be eaten by a devilAsa fell to save a cat why? Cause it was her plan all along to kill her mother, she knew her mother would push her and take the fall to be vaporized in typhoon, makes total sense
>>283023512KEK
>>283023091Also I think Asa's Mom's a fraud
>>283023475She was a 9 year old kid in an abusve familyCut her some slack
>>283023475Dadsa was an alcoholic and physically abused her, it's ambiguous.
kigashigamakigayoriga
>>283023409Gonna be funny if it's true
I hate shart poo
Is MHA the only new gen battle shonen where not all the parents are assholes or dead?
>>283023502>Asa is a bad person.So is scvmji.He killed his dad and made it look like it was a suicide.I'd even say SCVMji is the worst one because he commited homicide and twisted the events.
>>283023525>This time for sureFC status?
Fastest threads on /a/You all love Chenso
>>283023548I would maybe cut her some slack if she didn't do that RIGHT AFTER her dad put his life in danger to save hers, and lost his leg>>283023554Refer to above
how come blatant avatarfaggotry is allowed here anyway
>Got to reddit r/manga>Everyone there is praising Asa's mom, justifying her terrible actions and how it shows she loves her daughter.
>>283023350It's discorders raiding, shonenshitters and people from xitter and reddit who take posts here at face value. Sad but that's how it is.
Denji and Asa are the same"OMG ship they are in love with each other"Denji and Power are the same"Eww they are siblings"
>>283022315Based Scumji.
>>283022315rest well Kinomoto
>>283023510Prez tripped Asa on purpose and it doesn't make sense for Asa to kill Bucky because she had nothing to gain from it, unlike getting rid of her abusive father and potentailly getting rid of her abusive mother.
>>283023573So did Asa retard
>>283023573>I'd even say SCVMji is the worst one because he commited homicide and twisted the events.Many are saying this
>>283023434Tbf the woman was bad in this chapter too
>>283023559And dumb fucks said FC was real Oh wait that was you
>>283023217>Csm pt 2 started a lot better than thatand look at the result, a giant clusterfuckModulo started out as lame and got better over time
Asa confirmed to have daddy issues. She's officially down for anal.
>>283023512KEKAROOOOOOO
>>283023564Motherfucker, like a good chunk of MHA parents are bad parents.
>>283023575IM OBSESSED WITH CHAINSAW MAN
Nooo... Yoshidabros... It was supposed to be us standing in that alley while Denji lies dead. The volume cover said so.
>>283023575Love to hate*
All I know is FC was emphatically disproved forever and Poower is never coming back KEKAROO.
>>283023464See >>283023282Asa is probably looking to punish herself for what she did.
>>283023531Yoshida's fine I guess, Barem Bridge is a piece of shit and I love to hate his ass
>>283022366Why is Yoru like this?
>>283023576Again, we are discussing a literal toddler
>>283023586Asaden whales are desperate
>>283023573Denji killed his dad because he was in a life or death situationAsa tried to leave her dad to die right after he lost a leg protecting herAsa is worse
>>283023575Only part 1
FCbros where we at?
>>283023472Fujimoto...
>>283023604It really didn't.
>>283023564Sex with Bakugou's mom
>>283022338>>282724264BANG.
Finally Cuckjimoto makes a good chapter after years of pure slop, just in time for the movie I guess
>>283023517This
>>283023630A 10 year old who knowingly took steps to get her dad killed after he almost died for her?That's a piece of shit no matter how you slice it
might as well make P2 bi-weekly with all these breaks
>Asa projects her mom on her Yoru personalityFC is alive and well
>>283023652...he said, tears streaming down his face
>>283023260>Look at Denji>Malnutritioned beaten child>Father one day goes too far and try to kill him>Child defends himself and kills him>OMG i'm a bad person, i dont deserve happinessAnd i'm supposed to believe Denji is a bad guy?
>>283023658It's a shit chapter
>>283023651Bakugou...
>>283023586Scatwer is the same, personality speaking, not circumstance-speaking.Sharing a common braincell negates all romantic atmosphere (see Yuuji and Nobara, they share a single braincell, however, they find each other repulsive).What makes people form relationships is how they try to cope with life despite of having different personalities.
>>283022315Hello with the Kino police? he is back at it again
>>283023652I just wanted to know if someone was retarted enough to still support FC.Hahaha get fucked fcuck
>>283023656KEK>>283023686This is Pee
>>283023604>Modulo started out as lame and got better over timeNah, the main trio is so bland it hurts.
>>283023340I know, but i meant she's not even sorry for doing it accidently, just for being seen
>>283023604 Modulo might be getting there, but other than that, you are dead wrong about CSM part 2 objectively.
>>283023661A 10 year old who got beaten by a drunken man very often
>>283023679It is not thoughever
>>283023672>FC is alive and well
Asa's mom did nothing wrong. If you empathize with the dad then that speaks volumes about (You).
>>283023167Not that Denji and Asa are normal people
>>283023704He didn't like this one, boss
>>283023733This image made me hard
>>283023724"got violent sometimes"And now he's giving his life for her and she repays him by trying to let him die. It's fucked up>>283023740It might surprise you but murder is wrong
>>283022315>Asa on the dark side of the alley>Denji on the lightScholars what can we say about this symbolism?
>>283023740She killed a guy for moneyThe cheating was just an afterthought
>>283023609>Not allDeku, Bakugou, Jirou, Uraraka, Allmight, they all have great parents. Todoroki also has a nice mom and even Shigaraki had a cool granma.
>>283023757Are you gonna samefag all day Alex?
>>283023398>I could where Asa's femcel views originated fromWhy do you think Fujimoto gave her a 'wants to kill men for money, their lives are not worth anything anyway' backstroy? To try and lure in men-hating feminists.
>>283023796>Todoroki>Shigaraki>Nice mom and grandmaYeah, you are trolling.
>battleslop fags getting filtered again
>>283023591Asa hated devils in the beginning and could have secretly resented Bucky for being more popular with her classmates than herself. Sure, prez tripped her but Asa probably just let it happen
>>283023740>alcoholic>cheating>jobless>violentdeserved desu
I was at work for dump, what did I think about this chappy?
P won
>>283023774>>283023776These are the kind of people that would see their mom getting the shit beat out of them by their dad as a kid and then keep allowing it to happen even after becoming grown enough to beat the shit out of him instead.
>>283023676No, hes a bad guy because he didn't save that guy that one time, or something.
>>283022315HOLY FUCKING KINO
>>283023877Facts.
>>283023722Part 2 is factualy a mess of ideas Fujimoto got and either badly executed or changed his mind in the next chapter.The way Fuji has been setting up the stuff with if Denji goes back to being chainsaw, all his loved one dies, it came out so randomly and superficially that as soon as the arc was over, Denji's little sister or animals? Who cares, already forgottenMost hilarous is how the guy had no idea what to do with Balem, so he appears to burn Yoshida lmao and gets eaten, bravo fujimoto
>>283023830Todomom is far from an evil bitch. Plus, she and Endeavor tried to redeem themselves.
>>283023740All her dad did wrong was get drunk, be broke and cheat on his murderous bitch of a wife. He did not deserve to get his leg chopped off by a devil and get smashed to death via a rock
>>283023740Unlike you, I don't make my mind up about someone I have little to no information on, and what little information I do have I know is biased. I'll need to know a bit more before Asa's bpd crazy bitch mom gets a free pass on dropping a rock on her husband's head.
>>283023932you forgot the violent part, drunk dads almost always hit and scream on their families
>>283023830So are you ignoring all the other names mentioned?
>>283023932Interesting self-report. Never get married.
>>283023877You're retarded. There's an obvious, easy line between "don't do anything in front of violence" and "kill your dad after he almost died to save you".
>>283022315FC confirmedMemory of momsa = the Yoru personalityAsa: "I am not a bad person, right?" - since the bad side of me is in the Yoru partAsa somehow "forgot until now" how her father died, even though this should be a core memory = Asa got some kind of Amnesia, maybe caused when Pochita ate a part of war devilThat is why she was not aware she is a devil. now that war is going back to her old power, her memories start to surface
>>283023774>murder is wrongBut what if it's to murder a PoS who told his niece to sell herself to the CP industry?
>>283023991>getting killed by a devil smaller than tomato devilskill issue desu
>>283023932and what do you think he did while being drunk>be brokemore like he wasn't a self-sufficient man and was mooching off of his family. plenty of brokies with no jobs have a family but they at least try to be good fathers in whatever way they can or do stay at home dad stuff.
>>283023192I think you missed the part where her mom crushed his husband skull with a rock
>>283023991You seem to be of the belief that a single act of self-sacrifice redeems a life of shitty decisions. This is not the case. She owed him nothing, and he owed her plenty. Asa mom did nothing wrong.
>>283023877Uh, is there anything you'd like to get off your chest anon? Any childhood trauma you want to dump on us?
>>283023976>Schizo shit postMany such cases
>>283023782Those who walked to the light basically died.
>>283023973We don't know the degree of violence and whether he actually hit them or not. Drunk dads usually hit tables or walls. No matter what though , Asa's mom is still the bigger bitch for taking advantage of his recently missing leg that he lost saving their daughter to kill him for money. No wonder Asa "tripped" which led to her mom getting killed
>>283024042I'm on the belief that "being violent sometimes" doesn't warrant murder and that sacrificing your life to save your child makes this even worseThis is disgusting on all levels.
>>283023873A cruel and slow death.
>Denji remembers his trauma again>Makima is again not mentionedMakimafags... She's truly in the trashcan
>>283024076the dad was already leeching from her and drying her pockets, without his death it would have been even worse and he would have gotten more violent after all his whores leave him for healthier and better positioned men
>>283024092>Unironically sympathizing with an abuser The only thing disgusting about this is that he didn't get what was coming to him sooner.
>>283024024Hardcore criminals aren't even close to "slightly violent drunkards"
>>283023461Weren't you mental defects going on for months about how Denji is scum?>>283023208Kinda like how he "made up" the whole manga, right you fucking moron?
>>283024032>and what do you think he did while being drunkSmash some tables? Hit some walls? They both don't look like they're being religiously beat by a drunk man. Clearly he was trying to be a good man considering he gave up his fucking leg to save his daughter
>>283024125You know what's worse than abuse? Getting bashed by a rock while you bleed out because you were wounded trying to save your daughter, by your own wife, after doing your best to save both of themMaybe, just maybe, abuse is a lesser evil than murder, have you considered that?
>>283022315Best spread in years and RIGHT back to break. Sasuga Fujimoto sensei.
>>283024092Sacrifice for your offspring is the standard
>>283024103He purposrfully memoryholes her because it's traumatic.But she said a grvke trvke about scumji. Losing his loved ones is his karma for being a parricidal walking vessel of miscarriage.
Seems like Denji is fucked no matter who he gets with two crazy bitches in one and he doesn't seem like the type who can keep it in his pants.
>>283024230Not killing your parents is also the standard
>>283022427>>283022601>>283022913Denji probably did it extremely sloppily and the Yaks didn't give a shit either way, and just covered up any investigations and pushed the story.
>>283022500Kino...
>>283024165Infidelity is unforgivaburu.Asamama did what she had to do.
>>283024164thanks for making it obvious you're baiting at least.
>>283023573Denji killed his abusive father to protect himself.Asa & her mom conspired to kill father & husband because it would make their lives more convenient.Asa's reason is far, far more evil.
>>283022483Its to show why Asa is the way she is.Why she is so ambivalent to horrific violence.
>>283024245The only one who made his dick impotent is gladly ded.Bc we know poower's behavior can turn off any men, even the horniest one.
>>283024007some hella cope here.
>>283024296Denji was right about Asa being the worst chick yet...
>>283022601Debts don't just pass to the kid anyway, unless they're mobsters, and a sociopath is framing the story for maximum emotional damage.
>>283024296>Denji killed his abusive father to protect himself.He shouldn't have done that.By trying to save his own ass, he doomed his own life. Murder is wrong.
>>283024345Now poower ain't the only one in his blacklist. Keksa joined her.
>>283024348You don't know Japanese law and customs.
>>283024286>My dad slapped me four times. Therefore my mom did nothing wrong in braining him with a rock after he lost his leg saving meAre you a teenage girl or something?
>>283024350>a young boy killing his father in self defence is the same as a woman who takes advantage of an opportunistic situation to murder her husband while he's gravely injured, pinning the blame on a freak accident without facing any repercussions, and with the motivation of collecting a bigger debt payout and a grudge about infidelityInsane mental gymnastics going on here
>>283023219>>283023301>>283023543Asa probably often wants things to just be over, but can't kill herself normally. Better to fail in the middle of something productive and constructive and die while 'trying', rather than just necking herself. So she subliminally fails on purpose, tripping when things matter most and she's most at risk.
>>283024407Go ahead and look up "renunciation of inheritance Japan." We can wait. Denji's problem wasnt that the Japanese legal system was against him, it's that his dad was in hock to a bunch of murderous yakuza.
>>283023209>>283023464Asa wants to lose. She has a drive to fail.
>>283024488Yeah, they are retarded beyond belief.
>>283023167irl women love trauma bonding, conflict and disatisfaction. even if two characters have a small crush on each other
>>283024553Then the Yakuza didn't need to stage his dad's death as a suicide because the law wouldn't have even cared about his dad's death. Are you saying Denji wanted the debt his dad owed to the Yakuza to be passed to him, so that's why he made his dad's death a suicide?
>>283024296And that happened right after he got injured trying to protect her from a devil.
>>283022315Honestly not a bad chappy, but I feel like the reveal was kind of underwhelming. No were near as good as when Denji remembered he committed patricide.
>>283024724Yeah. The rub is that Denji likely killed his dad in self-defense while Asa conspired with her mom to murder her dad after he had tried to protect her.Pathetic. This chapter ruined Asa for me.
>>283022165Fujimoto is truly a hack and a faggot for putting out dogshit slop like this
>>283024724Inb4 the devil that cut Asa's dad's leg was Pochita. And that's why Asa and Denji share the same backalley
>>283022491His dad was in debt with the 1980s Yakuza. What the fuck did you expect? Sherlock Holmes to lead an investigation for some drunk bum?
>>283024895So, aside from Power who died protecting a cat, Denji is the other "misunderstood good person".Seriously, P, take your meds.
>>283024952Scvmji fucked things over then. Killing his dad made him inherit his debt.
Asa victory is inevitable.
>>283023129it's aot no requiem all over again
>>283023027"violent drunk" implies he hit them, no? otherwise you'd just call him aggressive, or mean.
>>283023361She tried to engineer his death you fucking retard
>>283023475Saving a child you owe that to, doesn't redeem other sins.
>>283025338It's not about being instantly redeemed and suddenly a good person. Asa's father was arguably still bad but he didn't deserve to be murdered by his own family. Asa is (somewhat) complicit in this murder, making her a bad person even if she's not legally responsible
>>283025363Yes, the mother is obviously a bad person. But a child hating her father so much that she wished he'd bleed out rather than save him, makes it clear that his sins were significant. Her actions are grey because for a child to desire that makes it clear he was pretty monstrous at times.
>>283025425>the mother is obviously a bad personMore than a bad person. There's a clear cut distinction between "drunkard who sometimes gets violent but otherwise good enough of a person to sacrifice yourself for your children" and premeditated murder for insurance money and infidelity grudges.Asa is a bad person because she did that RIGHT AFTER he gave his life for her. Any kind of good person would know better. She's not just morally gray, she's bad.
>>283025493You weight him putting himself in the way of a devil attacking his child over him beating that child or his wife in the past. I do not do that. I don't do any calculus on how that balances out, nor do I care to. The reality is that he'd traumatized his daughter with his violent drunkenness enough that she wished he'd die, and did what she could to cause that. Children are programmed to love their parents and Asa is no psychopath. So obviously he was an awful man, and one action that could be called altruistic does not change any reasons that he gave for them to hate him in the past. Let him talk to God about his redemption, his own child wishing he died is condemnation enough.
>>283025625>You weight him putting himself in the way of a devil attacking his child over him beating that child or his wife in the past.No, if I did I'd be saying that he's a good person without any ambiguity. I did not say that. I'm saying he doesn't meet the monstrous criteria needed to justify his murder at the hands of his own family. There is no world in which Asa and her mom aren't monsters, let alone good persons.
>>283025682I'm saying that he clearly does, because an otherwise normal child hated him so deeply that she deliberately sabotaged herself while 'trying to get help' to hope that he bled out on the ground. That makes his evilness towards the child obvious.
>>283025768>because an otherwise normal child hated himAnd that's where you're wrong. I'm questioning your premise that Asa is a good person or normal. Some otherwise normal children end up stabbing their entire family for arbitrary bullshit.We know exactly what the father did. It's not good or pretty but it's FAR from, say, sexually abusing the child which would actually justify the reaction.
>>283025493You're seeing this from a selfish perspective. With his leg gone, the father would have the perfect excuse to continue his lazy life on grounds of disability. As a mother, knowing the hopeless hell that would await me and my daughter, I'd rather put my daughter first and save her, even if it means sinning. She did it for Asa moreso than herself.Their life got better and Asa was able to go to school. She did the right thing but is probably also looking for excuses to bear what she did.
>>283025857>You're seeing this from a selfish perspective. [proceeds to advocate for premeditated murder because it would have been annoying to handle a living father]I bet you're one of these people who'd gladly leave their significant other if they ever ended up paralyzed or something like that.
>>283022601>uhhhhhhh retcon??!!!??how dumb are you retards?
>>283025836We know who Asa is and how she thinks. She's not a mystery, we've been following her for years. Asa is not a psychopath or sadist. She doesn't kill or harm people out of pleasure or because she'd gain something for it. If anything she's prone to self-sacrifice and masochism. Her father is an aberration in her life's story. From that we can see that whatever he did to Asa to make her hate him that deeply, was significant and probably justified her actions.
>>283025857By what metric is it "the right thing"? Improved quality of life? Lol.
>>283025912>I bet you're one of these people who'd gladly leave their significant other if they ever ended up paralyzed or something like that.If their actions caused suffering upon me and my child and leaving them would save my child ... yes and that's a more normal line of reasoning than you'd think.It's a horrible situation, sure, but the alternative is worse.
>>283025980Psychopaths also often live pretty normal lives until they do something horrible.Stop simping for a moment and look at the words on the page. It's explicity stated: he was a drunkard and *sometimes* got violent, not even "constantly", that's just how low the bar is. Your circular logic is bypassing the entire discussion.
>>283026022>if you did some bad things and killing you benefits me then killing you is a good thingYou're a discussing excuse of a human being.
>>283026067You kinda started off well in the discussion with actual arguments, but it seems you're left a reductionistic loser.Stop hitting your kid and lay off the booze.
>>283025971Not dumb at all since it's a retcon.
>>283026127That's literally your position. You're saying Asa's mom did the right thing by murdering him because the dad was violent SOMETIMES. It's insane by any rational standards.
>>283025980Or, get this, the fact that all Asa's traumatic memories feature her mother at the focal point, plus the fact that her father is almost entirely absent from her memories, plus the fact that she obviously feared her mother after this incident, and that her own antisocial personality traits are clearly inherited from her mother, AND the fact that Asa herself allowed her own mother to die in the same way she tried to let her father die as a kid, might just maybe suggest that it's actually Asa's mother that is the source of her childhood trauma? Not to mention that she witnessed her mother murder her father and get away with it.
>>283026038Is this the first chapter of the series that you've read? Where else do you see Asa do anything like that, ever? What volume? What chapter? What page? You don't. She is obviously not a person that is prone to violence nor does she take pleasure in it. She's even repeatedly been traumatized by the violent actions that Yoru has done in her body.You're talking about 'simping' here, when you don't even know the characters you're bitching about. The logic is this: we know who Asa is and what she is capable of and driven to do. We know that she is/was basically a psychologically normal child. We know that she doesn't enjoy violence or enjoy doing violent things. We know, if anything, that she's more the type of self-sacrifice for the sake of others. We also know that as a very young child she wished that her father would die so much she helped make it happen. This all absolutely leads to the single conclusion that whatever her father was like before his death, he was an awful man that had managed to drive his own child into wishing he died. Your logic is entirely reliant on pretending that this isn't >200th chapter of a manga series and is instead some random problem dropped on your lap out of nowhere. It is ridiculous and frankly a borderline illiterate way of approaching reading this section.
>>283026270>Where else do you see Asa do anything like that, ever? What volume? What chapter? What page?I never said we've seen her act psychopathic before. I'm saying murderers often act very normal until the day they snap. Asa's reaction is nothing short of filthy.By the way, chapter 1 shows what Asa thinks about murder in the first place. She's more concerned about her social standing than the sapient being she ended up accidentally killing. It's pretty clear how she thinks. This is just way worse.Wishing your dad would die != delaying the arrival of help after he lost his leg trying to save you.
>>283026181This is a reasonable argument, but it is a very different one from the other anon's. That Asa has unreliable memory to the point of crossing wires between her mother (that she has a potentially complex love-hate relationship towards) and her long dead father, is a reasonable theory to make. But it wouldn't change that at least in the situation proposed, that her father drove Asa to wanting him dead. Perhaps that didn't happen as she believes she remembers it, but we can't just assume that without more evidence.
>>283024980P just got IP banned, so that's not him.
>>283026372>But it wouldn't change that at least in the situation proposed, that her father drove Asa to wanting him dead.True, but it wouldn't be a shock to learn that Asa's mother, who killed her father in cold blood and lied about it, could've been manipulating her daughter before and after the incident.>Perhaps that didn't happen as she believes she remembers it, but we can't just assume that without more evidenceThat's also a possibility.Nothing about what I've seen fills me with confidence about Asa's reliability as a narrator. Her dad could've been the biggest piece of shit on earth but I won't judge him until I know more about him.
>>283026342The day she snapped would have been almost 10 years before the start of the manga. She'd have like a decade to somehow 'unsnap' and then never snap again. Bucky was literally a devil. Even a kind devil is still the same species that killed her mother and torments the human race. Not thinking that it is the same as a person because it was sapient is very normal for someone with massive personal trauma from devils. Even normal for any rational person in the setting. Given that 'kind devils' are also often the nastiest or most destructive. Wishing your father would die, and then taking the chance to help that along when you were given it, is exactly how a traumatized child would do it. She didn't harm her father directly, but regardless of why he was injured, the reasons she had to hate him were enough to outweigh any feelings of happiness that came from him saving her.
>>283026342nta. But if Asa was merely concerned with her social standing, she would have killed Yuko and weaponized Denji like Yoru wanted.As a toddler Asa would not know about insurances, she really just wanted her father gone and there is very little room for imagination as to why. Even a psychotic child wouldn't yearn and aid in the death of their own father for no reason other than to satisfy some hidden bloodlust that somehow never surfaced again.
>>283026564>unsnapIt doesn't have to be that literally. Just because you helped kill once doesn't mean you're going to keep living like that everyday.Again, we know exactly what the dad did, from Asa herself. It can only be better than what she's saying rather than worse, and what she's saying doesn't justify murder or facilitating murder. It's really that simple.
>>283022245Damn.>>283022281>>283022315Daaamn. Dark-ass chapter.
>Asa's uniform sword wasn't powerful because it reminded her of her mother.>It was powerful because Asa knew that her father's blood is what bought her her education and that uniform.
>>283026626If you never live like that again in your life, then we call that an aberration. Something that demonstrates that circumstances were totally different. Those circumstances make it obvious that it was something about her father that caused her to act on her desire to kill him. And we also know that he was a nasty, derelict, abusive drunk. Clearly he did some things that went above and beyond what his own daughter to tolerate or handle. It is extremely simple that a person that is not prone to violence or killing, helping to kill someone, means that their target was exceptional. In this case it means that whatever her father did, was bad enough his own child daughter wanted him dead.
>>283026790Again, you're merely avoiding the entire premise of this discussion, which is about as explicit and simple as it gets. Asa describes everything her father did on paper. You're free to keep elaborating on your fanfiction where he actually raped her offscreen which explains Asa tripping on her way to get help (something that isn't nearly as extreme and indicative of mental illness like you seem to claim, she tripped ONCE, didn't stab her dad) but I'll stick to the manga. Asa was revealed to be a bad person here, it's not rocket science.
>>283026864You are avoiding the premise of the discussion because you seem to not understand that Asa in this chapter exists in continuity with Asa in every other chapter. We know her personality and her character and we know what she is capable of doing and what she is driven to do. We know that is neither prone to violence for personal gain, nor does she ever enjoy violence. She is often traumatized by great acts of violence. And has avoided sacrificing others for her own gain in the narrative. Asa is not a mysterious or unfamiliar character who appeared today and never before. Her actions exist in a continuity and a context with everything else we've seen of her in the narrative. I never implied what type of abuse her father did to her, it doesn't matter. What matters is that abuse was enough that his young daughter, who otherwise is demonstrated to not have any drive to harm others, wanted him dead and took the first opportunity she got to facilitate that. This is a very simple storyline, but apparently the idea that this Asa is the same as every other Asa in the plot is a step too far for you to comprehend.
>>283022165Denji killing his dad had more reasons compared to the asa family, lmao.Denji mother died from heart disease.Denji and his father were drowned in debt to the yakuza.wtf asa family had?No healthcare?Lmao. Japan’s healthcare system is literally bismarckian.I thought Asa would have some happy childhood and she was just being emo desu.
>>283027056>Asa didn't go on insane murder sprees so that means everything bad we learn she did was actually caused by unknown external factors the narration left out rather than her being a bad person despite appearancesThis is you. There's really no more discussion to be had there.
>>283027135When has Asa demonstrated that she is a bad person outside of this instance in your mind? Surely this is something that commonly reoccurs, right?
>>283027178Chapter 1 when she cares more about her social standing than the dead sapient being? That's something I'd expect from what she did in this chapter. Even then, we don't need to see her act like a piece of shit to accept today's reveal that she is, in fact, quite a bit of a piece of shit
>>283027217Bucky was a devil. The species that has been killing millions of humans the entire series. Any other examples? If someone doesn't act like a piece of shit, then they aren't a piece of shit, lol. A person is as they are. Asa's one 'bad moment' in your evidence, is helping to kill her abusive father, and the entire rest of the manga that informs her character doesn't exist.
