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Well that was retarded.
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>>283108579
Lulu let his intrusive thoughts win
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>For example, if I said "You will become my sex slave for the rest of your life" there's nothing you could do to resist
Why didn't Lelouch use this example instead?
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>>283108611
Doujin where?
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>>283108579
IT HAS BEEN 18 YEARS ALREADY
GET OVER IT
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>>283108579
It was just an example.
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>>283108579
Considering the circumstances, it'd make the most sense if he said
>No, really. If I said "You must shoot me"
The ensuing drama wouldn't have been as shocking but might play better to the show
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>>283108579
>"Oh shit, we wrote ourselves into a corner! Quick, uh, make her go crazy and kill every one!"
>Is that really necessary? We could just roll with it and have the Special Administrative Zone play out. Turn it into a running subplot or something.
>"SHUT THE FUCK UP and do what I tell you, little BITCH."
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>>283108664
People are still fighting over which eva girl is hottest 30 years later. You are screaming in the wind.
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>>283108738
This isn't a weekly serialization. They had at least the 1st season planned far in advance, which makes it sillier
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>>283108579
The hero's geas always backfires. That's just being faithful to celtic epic writing.
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>>283108772
Agreed. Lelouch was about to give up before making good on his end of the deal, and the geas was NOT having that.
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>>283108579
Care to write something better? No? Too busy flipping burgers and beinga failure?
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>>283108717
Considering that the circumstances are her trying to make peace and save the 11s, telling her to kill them instead is precisely the most obvious example of a command she would never follow if not magically compelled.
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>>283108914
>Care to cook something better? No? Too busy eating burgers and beinga karen?
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>>283108611
he wanted something that she would never ever do
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>>283108850
>Euphemia's actions completely mogged Lulu's le ebin keikaku, and the writers were NOT having that.
Ftfy.
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>>283109008
There were ways of circumventing this scenario. Lelouch could have easily commanded someone in the crowd ahead of time to shoot either himself or Euphemia. Perhaps it's not that the writers needed her to commit genocide, but they wanted her to for shock value.
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We can all agree there were many other way more organic options that would have advanced the story just the same, yes?
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>>283108579
It's dumb, but it was also very sad, so it's fine.
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>>283109090
No, it's the most natural example for Lelouche to give in the circumstances as well as the one that most fits with the tone of the rest of the show.
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>>283109254
Telling her to shoot him seemed the most obvious, since they were just talking about it. But shooting the civilians is probably second most obvious.
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>>283108738
The problem is not how they had a shocking plottwist, the problem is they set it up with monty pythons stoning scene from life of brian.
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>>283109090
This works fine as a culmination of the "Geass can go out of control" foreshadowing, and worked very well to push Lelouch further into the role of Zero, as well as to deepen the rift between Lelouch and Suzaku.
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>>283109573
They just needed to execute it better.
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>>283109325
She might arguably have actual reason for shooting him, particularly given the context of his opposition to her plans. Also both Lelouche and the show are far more prone to grandiose overstatement, so while it might be a little more immediate it's still less fitting.
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>>283108579
>haha I have a power I could totally use to win right now
>if only it wasn't my beloved sister who's fucking up my entire plan
>but I could totally do it, all my problems would vanish
>not that I ever wou...
>oh fuck
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>>283108579
yeah i really mean it when i say anime is retarded but i still enjoyed it now ienjoy shitting on it more
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>>283109090
I don't think it was really fully explored, so as is it's not exactly justified, but the show did want to do more than just "lol geass's always go out of control." Lelouche's geass specifically is a textbook example of thematic powers: it gives him absolute power over other human beings, and as such the kind of story Code Geass is demands a consequence for this. And that is that when one has absolute power, every word must be considered. Every eventually accounted for. Lelouche can be flippant because he believes he can use his power however he wants, but this specific situation shows how easily his power can move beyond his own intentions. When every word can be a command, you can't just say anything and assume the best. It's a pretty silly example here, and it's not exactly followed up on in general either, though.

The show obviously wants you to think about this sort of thing, but in practice Lelouche's geass commands only rarely result in outcomes beyond his considerations. Suzaku's "live" order being another example. In the end though, Lelouche must be removed from the world as a consequence/punishment for his transgressions against humanity, in a narrative themeing sense, and he as a hero understand and facilitates this. It is fundamentally at odds with his moral goals for the world, which people in general cottoned on to as a typical consequence of getting a geass: it's a kind of monkey's paw power, playing on what you desire and corrupting it.



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