Can someone explain to me why do fujoshis love Enji Todoroki/Endeavor? He doesn't look bishounen/ikkemen. What is his secret? I'm an oldfag manga reader (37) from Philippines and this is the first time I've seen a character with that appearance popular among fujoshis in Japan, South Korea, here, etc.
I am very curious about that too. I know zero women that like Dragon Ball.
>>283127575He's an old sad dad with a hot twunk supporting him. Gay guys were lusting after him day one but pretty much that whole crowd started fawning over him after he became a sad dad
>>283127575That's really curious.
>>283127575>oldfag manga reader>doesn't know basic shipping
>>283128224But I know, and the characters always were bishounen, androgenous or effeminate. Characters that look like Endeavor never were popular among women.
>>283127575He beat his wife.Women love that shit.
>>283128324>Characters that look like Endeavor never were popular among womenThis anon is right. Zero women cared about Hokuto no Ken or Dragon Ball in 90's.
>>283128324It's kinda odd isn't it? I think that may be in small part caused by a general detachment from physical labor in modern society, girls don't grow up seeing masculine men achieving things and being providers and protectors, so they don't attach their natural basis of attraction to masculinity as much? I'm sure you could poke a thousand holes in that theory. But it does seem to me that women liking the androgenous pretty boys more is the stranger thing
>>283128343they also love deadbeat fathers that are also gambling addicts
>>283128407My theory is that the average japanese male is androgynous by default and can't look virile no matter how hard he tries, which is why they think that a man is only beautiful if he looks like a woman. Only a small minority of them look like a badass Samurai from an Akira Kurosawa movie.
Dadlust is a known quantity. Besides, Endeavor is still handsome, he just has a scar which does nothing to disrupt his chiseled features.
>>283128378Baki is a fujo magnet though
>>283127575I don't get it either. He's an ugly pig man.
>>283128602Are we looking at the same image?
>>283128602this isn't the Kinnikuman thread
Nobody cares.
>>283128324>Characters that look like Endeavor never were popular among womennot with the uncultured ones
>>283129000The farm girl likes muscular menOne victory for the "women need to be around physical labor more" theory
>>283129036here's a little fun historical fact that most people ignore: women were indeed around physical labor all the fucking time during most of human history because the housewife wasn't a thing before the industrial revolution. Poor women helped their husband in whatever their jobs were, and rich women helped to manage their husband's properties, but the middle class women was free to do fuck nothing with her free time.
>>283129091Yep, that's part of why I think it's at least a halfway decent theory
>>283127575BNHA would have been far better with him as the main character, even if it was no longer shonen. And that's not just because Deku is fucking garbage.
>>283129281we get it, rajesh. we don't need you in every mha thread
>>283127575He's got incredibly superior genes. He's rich and powerful. He's virile. He keeps his woman firmly under control and bred her repeatedly.That kind of dom / sub stuff makes women wet as hell.
>>283127575>why do gay shippers like a man with a lot of interpersonal development with various other men?It's a mystery. More importantly, fujoshi (and women in general, really) aren't a monolith and different ones like different things. Common sense desu
>>283129432>dom / subPlease don't ever associate my fetish with your shitty evolutionary animal mating theories from 6th grade science again
>>283128324anon..
>>283129892that is still more in model than when Araki draws his old characters with his modern art style
>>283127575He's liked by gay men, not fujos
>>283127575Fujos like him because they can ship him with Hawks. Alone he's not nearly that popular.
>>283127575Guys like endeaver are considered to be gay irl and fujos are into yaoi shipping.
I wish I was built like Endeavor, but being 5'10" only gets you so far.
>>283127575>Can someone explain to me why do fujoshis love Enji Todoroki/EndeavorWhy do anons begin to love "girl-failures" and milfs after reaching a certain age? After you have your answer, consider he's a dilf-failure.He's like a stepping stone for fujos going from liking twinks to being fully into the Harry DuBois types, that fujos shift towards once they pass 30Source: anecdotal second-hand observation from knowing one for 15 years
>>283127575>What is his secret?Absolute virility, wealth, status, technically single, and custody of the children
>>283128453>I can fix him
>>283130381Gay men are just socially functional fujos.
>>283132557Explain me then (socially dysfunctional gay man)
>>283127575He's the epitome of what women think they want: a successful but flawed hero man that suffers repercussions of decisions he makes without her input, gets humiliated, then comes crawling back to her contrite and begging her pardon for his mistakes, placing her in the dominant position in their relationship from then on because she will never let him forget his fuckups.
>>283132824>socially dysfunctional gay manAutism
>>283128453literally my father (minus the superhuman abilities). Was popular as fuck with women even though he was a piece of shit just like toji
>>283127575It's unironically because he's tortured and patheticHe has turbo "I can fix him" energy
>>283128324You spent too much time around teenage girls. Older fujos and yumejos' tastes went all across the twink to bear spectrum.Also, how can you be an oldfag and never see Genshiken? Ohno was a fujo with a thing for old salarymen fucking.
>>283127575Endeavour gets shipped with Hawks. They love their teamup in the HighEnd fight.
>>283127575>He doesn't look bishounen/ikkemenHe kinda does, more than All Might at least
>>283129892Fujos love the dynamics in Jojo, but not the designs. At least not in early parts.As evidenced by the image you posted, in which Dio and Jonathan are almost as unrecognizable as they are in Araki's modern style.
>>283127575Big tiddy, Big muscles
>>283127575He is literally the anime version of pic related. This is why he is popular among fujoshis.
>>283131870>Why do anons begin to love "girl-failures" and milfs after reaching a certain age?For the milfs thing, I do have my own theory although it's probably a bit schizoA lot of young men nowadays have absolutely no experience with women and so they fantasize about the idea of an older, kinder woman showing them the ropes and being willing to take charge in the relationship. From my own limited experience with women, even the ones who have far more experience in relationships or with sex will expect you to take the lead because you're a man and that turns them on
>>283134526kek
>>283127575Endeavour got popular after this fight and it was also hawks first appearance. I'm not surprised fujos ship themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrMiK994KCc
https://www.tumblr.com/stormcallart/639304445202776064/i-have-been-going-on-all-day-about-knuckleduster?source=share
>>283133676Something I noticed is that the figure of the righteous virtuous hero rarely is popular with female fans compared to villains and anti-heroes. I can only assume that the reason for that is that the hero is already perfect and needs no fixing.
>>283128453why isn't he in this list