Why do tsundere never win?
They’re not honest about their feelings.
>>283129935At least they always beat the kuudere
>>283129935did not she win?
>>283129935They do win in some hentais.
>>283129935Liars don't deserve it
>>283129935genki girls are too strong
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>>283129935on a reread this manga makes me question why so many people were so hellbent on anyone other than Yotsuba winning. Yotsuba's win was unironically setup and forshadowed from the first few chapters how did so many people get mindbroken over it?
Tsundere was created to lose.They must be Tsundra beat fate and win.
>>283130325to beat*
>>283129935statistically in popular harem ln/manga/anime, tsundere are by far the majority of winners.
>>283129935Akane won and nobody liked it.Naru won and nobody liked it.
>>283130151WHOLESOME!
>>283129935They're a known quantity, so writers will often throw them into stories to easily round the cast out with no expectation of doing much more with them. Their usual traits also make them natural losing heroines.Yet, they're still quite popular in Japan.
>>283130410calling ranma's ending a "win" for Akane is generous, Sakura and Ochako had better endings and they are considered losers.
>>283130410Taiga won, and everyone liked it. Shana won and everyone liked it. Louise won and everyone liked it.
>>283129935Men are easy; just be nice to them. Many women fail at this simple task.
You're reading/watching the wrong stuff.
>>283129935>>283129997>>283130149For me it's Ichika
>>283129985Shut up idiot
>>283130090She wonOP be trollin as usual
>>283130769Ichicute
Asuka won thoughever
>>283130600>Taiga won, and everyone liked it.I prefer Ami by ten miles
>>283130996Kensuke sure is lucky.
>>283130996she won the dying competition - LOL
>>283129935Because people have shit taste now
>>283129935 nino won
>>283129935Ahem.
>>283129997Miku is a dandere you imbecile, not a kuudere
>>283129935 (OP)>>283129997>>283130149>>283130769whatever happened to first girl win
>>283129935Because... Because they just dont OK?!
>>283129935too much tsun, not enough dere.
Nino won tho
what kind of nonsense is this? tsundere win all the time, it's interesting and exceptional when they don't win in harems.
>>283131480They win all the time
>>283129935Because you were born two decades too late.
>>283129935That's no tsundere, just a dumb bitch.
>>283129935Ouka will avenge her soon
>>283132662Historically yes, but recently romcom have mostly been open end, harem, route shit or genki ending. Last big tsun winner was probably Yukino.
>>283134154>YukinoThat was a kuudere
>>283129935Nene will avenge nini.
Remember, Yotsushit lives in a sexless loveless marriage. She really didn't win at all.
>>283130996>thougheverI miss when redditors were too afraid to post here.>>283129935They're only used for comic relief now.
>>283129935Are you sure about that?
Nini bros.....
>>283129935Seo, Miki and Niwatori are making sure the tsundere win status quo gets restored.A reminder Ami lost in Cafe.
>>283130149>genkiYotsuba is a menhera depressioncore acting overly genki to hide her pitiful state.
>>283134154>genki endingLet's call it by the real name: menhera ending. And it was an exception that was resented by every romance author.No wonder Seo is trying to make Ouka or Riho win instead of Ami, Miki is trying to make all the girls other than Erika abandon Nagi and Niwatori is making sure no character other than Zuru, Kuzu and their closest frienemies (Umi and Hae) appear.
>>283134338This.Mw, Futaro is cucking the menhera retard with Nino on tuesdays and thursdays and Miku on fridays and saturdays.
>>283136482I can save her...
>>283131254She has a bit of kuudere (especially early on when she hasn't warmed up to Fuutarou), a bit of dandere, and a bit of hajidere. She's hard to quantify as just one dere.
>>283136482Stop, I can only get so erect.>Captcha: V4HRT
>>283136602Miku is hard to classify because, while basic, she had a proper character arc and development so she didn't ended up feeling as much of a walking trope as the rest of the cast
>>283134338>>283136540It's funny cause the recent LN outright says Yots and Fuu had their first time in first year of University, keep coping ninikeks.
>>283137128>Yots and Fuu had their first time in first year of University>Manga confirms they never kissed until their weddingEven trying to retcon shit they just make it sound more pathetic
>>283134338Cope more. The new light novel gives a new picture of Fuutarou and Yotsuba's sexual and loving relationship, knowing that they've been having sex for just a few months after they became a couple. They've been fucking for five years now, and don't forget, they even had sex the day before their wedding.https://www.reddit.com/r/5ToubunNoHanayome/comments/1nt02mr/comment/ngqklax/?context=3Yotsuba is clearly much more aggressive in the romance than Ninoshit.
>>283137310At least the guy writing that shit knew Negi's ending was so bad it had to be fixed
>>283136482Trying too hard
>>283137246Retcon? I don't see it that way. I think Yotsuba's words at the wedding ("it's not like this is the first time") are misunderstood.Firstly, her question is only about a specific day, and secondly, about the first time they kissed on that day five years ago. With "it's not like this is the first time," she's simply saying that the wedding kiss isn't the first time on that day after five years. Just because Yotsuba says "it's not like this is the first time" doesn't mean they haven't kissed in five years if she's only asking about a specific day and the first time they kissed on that day five years ago.
>>283137413The story of the new light novel is by Negi himself.https://www.kodansha.co.jp/comic/products/0000417857
>>283137761>The story of the new light novel is by Negi himself.Nope, "original story" means the manga, the author for this is Akino Hajime
>>283137808No. The story is by Negi. The author simply wrote it the way Negi wanted the story to be.
>>283137899That's some sad cope, if that were the case Negi would be listed as co-author, at most Negi just approved the story after it was written
>>283137555Read again. Remember her current character is shaped by suffering the consequences of being more haughty and asshole-y than Nino.
>>283129935>>283129997Both are common winner archetypes.>>283130149This sometimes happens.>>283130769Now this one is really rare.
>>283129935They aren't serious about winning if they are acting tsundere.
>>283130223Speedreaders.And now one reread a second time the manga.
Ninibros...You told me Yotsuba doesn't have a job.You told me that Yotsuba doesn't fuck Fuutarou.Why do you keep lying to me?
>>283129935Pic unrelated
>>283130223Nino won
>>283129997best girl was robbed
>>283142821Yeah Eba should have fucked Yotsuba, not Fuutarou.
>>283130223why do revisionists love to pretend yotsuba's win was this foreshadowing masterclass, better than AOT even? Her win was nothing but an asspull
>>283130223>Yotsuba's win was unironically setup and forshadowed from the first few chaptersCould you post some examples of this?
>>283142909>>283143189This.Miku and Nino had more evidences.
>>283142909>HOW DID THE GIRL WITH MOST HINTS TO BE LOLIKANO, WHO WAS REVEALED TO BE LOLIKANO, WIN?A mystery for the ages.
B-but Tomo won...
>this will make certain fags cope and seethe
Yotsuba too strong
>>283143273>THE GIRL WITH MOST HINTS TO BE LOLIKANOThat was Nino
>>283143640>was a full on cunt from the get go>never hinted she met himSorry.
>>283143662She's a tsundere, she was obviously just mad that he didn't recognized her instantly!
>>283143640>when the hall of anal devastation constructs itself
>>283130223Most people were anime watchers and the anime sidelined Yotsuba to the point that she barely seemed like a sentient character
>>283143235>60 pageslmao thanks for reminding methose were some fun times mikukeks
Having not read or watched the trainwreck, I get the feeling it was a very small number of anons who were genuinely interested in Nino and the rest were false flagging for the fun of it.I never picked it up because I knew she'd lose.
easy
drugnobros...
Nino won because she did.
>>283143640You think ninochink offed himself when she lost?
>>283144113>want a toubun HoAD>just make a simple thread
>>283145386I'm pretty sure he's the amischizo in cafe threads.
>>283145386Last I knew he had become an Amifag in cafe but he has either not posted in a while or his english has become much better
>>283144257She deserves it, extremely hard.
>>283144280except Rin canonically loses to Saber
>>283145496No she doesn't.
>>283145386He continues making barely intelligible posts in other romcom threads.
>>283147973Is he also the bikinischizo?
I like Nino>>283147973What a surprise
>>283134423I miss it too, yet you're still here.
>>283145442He couldn't cope with losing again so hes taking the sure thing with Ami. I hope Seo Seos him.
>>283149107Ami's gonns win tho.
>>283145496Sakura is the canon winner
>>283142312It's funny how Negi went out of his way to address their coping lol.
>>283152037The Shinji bowl that is
This shit ebbs and flows in cycles. "Childhood friend never wins" was a reaction to a previous era of "childhood friend always wins." Now we have "tsundere never wins" as a reaction to an era of "tsunderes always win."
>>283153795>Genki girls always winI'm hoping for the girls all win and MC gets NTR'd because of his indecisiveness, being nice, and wishy washy attitude. His once harem will lose to other men in the series, even if said man is introduced at the final chapter.> Onee san - gets with a nice charming professional like a doctor or lawyer, and they live very happy fulfilling lives> Tsundere - Gets with the foreign black military man from Okinawa that abandons her when he gets sent back to the US>Kuudere - Gets with a rich Ojisan>Genki girl - decides to need to find herself first and goes slut mode and carousal riding>Aloof girl - gets with a shota 10 years younger than her and she grooms him into her charming prince
Cuckshit has fried many people's brains.
>>283153932not at all. it's the best and most logical course of trends and storytelling. Why would 5 girls wait for some beta bitch to confess and even if he did, he'll be an intolerable little limped dick faggot.A real man would have fucked all 5 of those bitches at once, or hell, choose one of them and date them each at least 3 times each to fuck them before he chose someone officially
>>283130769Ichicute is #1 in all metrics, dimensions, statistics, intangibles and any quality that defines best girl. She was too good for the MCBowl. Rarely seen her character archetype win, if at all
>>283129935They get character development and stop being tsundere or they lose because you should be honest about your feelings.
uhm I think tsundere used to win in the early 2000s but then stopped, if we count vns too. Nisekoi= tsundere wTo love ru = genki wToradora = tsundere wOregairu =kuudere wOrange road = kuudere wQuintuplets = genki wOreimo = tsundere???Full metal Panic = tsundere wMasamune no revenge= tsundere wKaminomi = genki wSaekano = deredere wDevil as a part timer = Genki girl w.
>>283154874this but that's why everybody like those tsundere>>283130600and nobody those >>283130410
>>283129935>Marrying Nino>Going on a date with Nino>Getting scolded by NinoTotal Nino love.>Making up with Nino>Holding Hand with Nino>Going on a vacation with Nino>Studying with Nino>Eating Nino's home cook meal>Watching a movie with Nino sitting next to you>Going to shop with Nino>Seeing Nino in her swimsuit>Having fun with Nino>Having a good relationship with Nino's sisters>Coming home to Nino being there for you>Taking a nap next to Nino>Seeing the Cherry Blossom with Nino>Buying a birthday present for Nino
>>283154874They don't have to lose their tsun completely like classic tsundere, but they do have to grow nonetheless like that girl from 100kano. But that goes for most characters: progression is a must.
>>283154969Onee san needs to win
>>283130325>TsundraWhat is Tsundra?
>>283153795I want tsundere childhood friend wins
>>283155558Based
