Jack has recently been posited as the polar opposite of Hanayama who is all inborn strenght an aesthetics. While fighting him, Mushashi saw an overwhelming whitness. "Nothing".I think in Jack he would see "everything". Likely portrayed as a snapshot from a chaotic field of battle of his time. Everything happening all at once and none of it pretty or memorable. Sick and wounded men dying, ancient gunpowder weaponry going off, peasants stabbing one another with spears. The "true" nature of combat. Jack, even moreso than even Motobe will use every trick in the book to gain strenght. Let us not forget, he would even show his asshole if it meant winning.Furthermore, Jack's introduction in Rahen parallels that of Mushashi in Dou. He fights the same jobber swordsmaster, he goes on to challenge the same castmembers as Mushashi did. His Goudou is a threat on the level of prime Mushashi, so more than anything, he would acknowledge Jack as his fellow "warrior", as in, a combatant unburdened by aesthetics, seeking only to "bite" the way Mushashi "cuts".
>>283166639Jacksissies be like.>Yeah, he's going to win even if he has to forsake aesthetics! He'll even show his ass if he needs to! My fuarking hero!The second he actually forsakes aesthetics and looks like a bum inna fight instead of no-diffing:>I-is that, my biting "hero" looking lame? The way he said he would?! No, no no no .. it just can't be! My "hero" would never come out of a fight looking bad! Even though it's HIS ENTIRE ETHOS..... A-AIEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME STANDING MAN!!!
>>283166222Interesting analysis, but if you're taking your premise to its logical conclusion, Musashi in front of Jack would see a black landscape. A different type of emptiness. Jack is a fighter born from despair.>His Goudou is a threat on the level of prime Mushashi, so more than anything, he would acknowledge Jack as his fellow "warrior", as in, a combatant unburdened by aesthetics, seeking only to "bite" the way Mushashi "cuts".I strongly disagree with this. Jack is still far from being on Musashi/Yujirou's level, and he uses biting as a means to an end (winning), whereas Musashi cuts because he likes cutting.
>>283166727I wasn't talking in powerscaling terms, it's more about the storytelling angle. His fight with the swordsman and subsequent Pickle match really does mirror Mushashi's revival.He is the same kind of a "threat" that has been unleashed on the Bakiworld.In terms of scaling Mushashi was potentially above Yujiro, so Jack probably wont get there until the end of his journey, if ever.>Uses biting as a means to an end (winning), whereas Musashi cuts because he likes cutting.Imho that makes him akin to Mushashi still. He did enjoy himself, but it was also the way he went about getting fame/riches/fun. Been a while since ive read Dou, but i recall Mushashi talking about his cutting in terms of goal-aquisition on a few occasions.
>>283166639jacksissies… how come we aren’t given the ein we’ve earned…?
>>283166834Musashi enjoys the act of murder, much that he does the larp about his glory. He could get infinite glory by just existing and going on TV shows, but the first thing he does in one is the sociopath mode of thinking how to kill people around him, he is shown in the past being equally murderous with the headwear chapter where he cuts a dude in half.Musashi's ideology can be defined in simplistic terms as:"Musashi enjoys killing people with his sword"->"this is good and righteous because he is rewarded for it", even in the modern time his way of acquiring validation MUST be through murder with a sword.Jack doesn't particularly seem to enjoy bitting, it is just a strong strategy that he has minmaxxed for because nobody really can defend against it AND his retard level striking and good grappling.
>>283167108There’s an art to swordsmanship. Bisecting someone with a single blow is impressive, intimidating, and beautiful. Almost no one can do that, both in-setting and in real life.Biting is what your little sister does after you twist her nipple. Jack is your little sister upset you can violate them at any moment and they can’t stop you.
>>283167212Itagaki... Is that you..?
>>283167212I know. That's why I said it only works because jack is already a retarded tier strong fighter. Anyone else bitting an opponent is going to be annoying but not really threatening.
>>283167355When has the biting worked. Post the panel where Jack won against an opponent where biting was necessary for his victory.
>>283167407The recent fight with Hanayama. His debut against Sukune.
>>283167407Sukune, Hanayama.Vs Pickle too, albeit that was mostly working in pickle's favor lmao.
>>283167453Give me your location so I can rape you in the ass, if you’re this insistent on acting the faggot in this discussion.
>>283167476Yujirou-sama!!!
>>283167476
>>283167212>>283167476… itagaki-sama…??
>>283166706Jack won though. That's all that matters in the end.
>>283167528The narrator getting sassy for no reason was incredible desu.
In the end, Sukune left the series completely undefeated>vs Baki (round 1): interrupted, but Sukune showed his superiority>vs Oliva: curbstomp>vs the street oozeki: easy win>vs the yokozuna: instant, effortless victory>vs Jack: got Jack to accept defeat>vs Yujiro: Yujiro abandoned the arena while Sukune was still standing. Sukune won.>vs Oliva (round 2): Oliva cheated, he said so himself. Sukune won.>vs Baki (round 2): Baki cheated, he said so himself. Sukune won.
>>283167635Have you ever sat down anon?
>>283167476This is why I love baki
>>283167476Unironically i'm bi so under the right circumstances, would.Of course then it wouldnt be rape.Also central euro.
>>283167811Your asshole better be whistling a gospel tune and that rectum better be cleaner than a preacher’s rectory if I’m going to be traveling to a Polish shithole to use my wood to recreate the Katyn Forest Massacre with your intestines, suka.
>>283166222The problem is that Jack is actually burdened by aesthetics deep inside. And his arc will either end with him accepting that part of self or with him discarding it somehow.
>>283167945Thats just gross.
>discussion about baki >incredibly gay shitpick both
>>283167945G-garland...?!
>>283167945not gonna lie this poetry is gettin me stiff
>>283167945Sikorsky-kun....
>>283167945
>>283167945put me in the screen cap
>>283167945Kek.
>>283167945how come 4chan can keep coming up with shit like this
Supposed that Retsu had defeated Baki in the semi finals of the Maximum Tournament (as he should have).Could he have defeated Jack in the finals?
>>283169301I think at that point in the series Shibukawa > Retsu and Jack mid-diffed the aikido user. In general he has high battle IQ so he could probably win against Retsu regardless, albeit not as easily as Baki has.
>>283167635>In the end, Kehaya left the series completely undefeatedFixed. Sorry for the mistake
>>283169301>(as he should have)lol noRetsu lost the minute Baki got serious.Jack could have taken a shit on Retsu if he wanted.A better question is if Retsu could have beaten Kureha.
>>283167108this is way oversimplifying it. his thinking is a result of his original place and time. he doesn't understand the modern world or what a talk show even is. he definitely enjoys cutting people, dueling, that sort of thing, but it's not sociopathy, it was the basis of his entire role in his culture.there's a difference between being born in first world suburbia and going "god i wanna cut people to death", and coming from a time where sanctioned killing wasn't just acceptable, it was honorable, the basis of his career and lifestyle.
>>283169560Kureha's body is likely better but not really that better compared to Retsu's, and while he has superior anatomical knowledge Retsu just dunks on him in terms of technique.As much as Jack was an unstoppable juggernaut during MT I don't think he'd have it easy against MT Retsu either, then again MT Retsu was vastly overestimating himself and probably got even more careless due to his easy victory against Katsumi so he might probably get blitzed hard by Jack if he didn't want to humor him like he did with Garland, Jack's real feat during the MT was getting to the finals with next to no damage whatsoever compared to everyone else.
>>283169560retsu would dunk kureha no problem, this is obvious. retsu is regularly portrayed as the best of the bakibros.
>>283169920>retsu would dunk kurehaKureha almost beat baki.He only lost because Yujiro asked him to let baki get a free hit.And that was a only a month before the MT.I think the strength difference makes it close
Minimum Tournament when
>>283167635this is the level of delusion I can admire
>>283169560>Retsu lost the minute plot demandedfixed that
>>283170051Then the real question is if Retsu could defeat Zulu
Do you guys think motobe san can PROTECT sendo from the absolute godly shitting he is receiving from ricardo-sama?
>>283167945hot
>>283170322Supposedly Sendo is finally going to do something, George posted some of the drafts for the next chapter, so Motobe would sit that one out.
>>283167945straightest baki poster
>>283170051kureha didn't almost beat baki at all. he couldn't even wake baki up. baki literally could not fully try until retsu gave him a reason.
>>283169801It is, there is more colors to it other than what I said, but as said, an extreme simplification. My primary point is that he doesn't yearn for fame but to cut, the fame is just the validation for his action.He also refuses to change, which is why I say the sociopathic thing, and also why he comes into conflict with Baki.
>>283169846On hindsight, it is impressive how little Retsu actually learned, he got worse if anything.
>>283171409Retsu's an odd character in the cast in that despite his age he doesn't really grow technically or physically but only mentally.Whereas Baki, Jack or Katsumi learn new techniques or come up with new stuff rather regularly throughout the manga, Retsu only really learns Xiaori from Kaku right before he's about to die, even during the boxing arc he doesn't really learn new stuff as much as he's getting used to fighting with a peg leg, on the other hand he has a massive mental and emotional growth compared to most of the cast, which is odd because usually that's something Itagaki does for the old fellows like Doppo or Gouki.When you look back at all the previous arcs it feels rather strange, Retsu feels surprisingly static as a fighter but as a character he's one of the most compelling when it comes to growth, it's probably why he's so beloved despite starting out as an absolute jackass and ending as one of the most affectionate and cherished bros.
>>283167945Anon...
>>283171237>My primary point is that he doesn't yearn for fame but to cut, the fame is just the validation for his action.he likes to cut, and he likes to rise by cutting. he adores fame and adulation, we have had multiple scenes specifically about how much he loves praise and rewards.>He also refuses to change, which is why I say the sociopathic thing, and also why he comes into conflict with Baki.change how? he doesn't comprehend any of this new world. the nature of the world around him is barely comprehensible. you tell him "you can't just kill people" and you may as well be saying that the sky is actually made of cheese.
>>283171729Could be because chinese martial arts are "complete".The karatekas are in the infancy of their craft, the five hundred and first year. Retsu has done all you could possibly do with chinese kenpo, and so his growth is mostly about the relationship he has with it.
>>283167945No homo, right?
>>283171729The thing about Retsu is that he embodies taking pride in the breadth and depth of his skills. In the Baki world, kung fu's various branches aren't just made-up bullshit and sufficient skill and discipline can make just about anything effective. Theoretically, Chinese martial arts already have a technique for everything across their myriad schools and Retsu's considered such a master that he's familiar with pretty much all of them to a degree. He lacks a few specific skills, but he's so adaptive that he can come up with a move to emulate just about anything. There's a reason he talks about how complete Chinese martial arts are. The biggest thing lacked until later in the story was Kaku's Xaori, but apart from that he has a ton of practical and esoteric skills at his disposal. Growing in maturity and understanding was far more important to his character than actually gaining new skills since he's always been a mystery box of seemingly endless techniques.
>>283171729Retsu isn't that young desu.I'd say his mental state got worse as the chip on his shoulder grew, eventually leading him to basically committing suicide by Musashi.
>>283171826He could get his fame and wealth via doing interviews, non-death fights, writing books, etc... He actively choses to climb by cutting at ALL costs.I think we get Musashi at the zenith of his career rather than late stage Musashi when he is old and more spiritual too, which is interesting.
>>283172086But chinese martial are entering their 4,001st year
>>283173081To be fair so far they are still panning out better than the five hundred and first year of karate.
>>283173166Fucking mogged
>>283173166Eeeh, I dunno, I think Baki just got lucky this time. Katou should try again
>>283173311The moment you stop doubting, you're no longer a practicioner of the martial arts.Yujiro hasn't done anything in the last couple chappies. Mayhaps Suedo is now at his level? We'll never know u til another walking through the city chapter.Always doubt, and when in doubt, doubt more.
>>283172826>Retsu isn't that youngThisYoung characters in baki don't get face detail
Best thread on /a/ right now.Baki is like an autism particle aggregator
I think Jack will fight Motobe at some point, he's partly responsible for Jack reviewing his style after allI wonder if Jack beating Motobe will lead to Hanada fighting Jack since for some reason he's being hyped up
>>283172826I think he was around 30. A good deal older than Katsumi, but still a sizeable gulf between him and guys like Doppor or Shibukawa. As for the chip on his shoulder, it's really a matter of perspective. His mentality opened up more and his understanding of his own pride broadened along with it as time went on, but he also descended into increasingly more dangerous spaces to seek out the thrill of challenge and to continue to prove himself and affirm that pride. He knew that Musashi was too much for him, but the changes he went through after Pickle inspired him to give it his all for his one true passion. For better or worse, he died doing what he loved, but had he not gone so far in that direction he could have lived to continue guiding others along the path of discipline and helped in Katsumi's endeavor even more as a mentor.He forsook the future for the sake of his own ambition.
>>283173953>tfw all of the Shinshinkai dudes cripple themselves on the main cast because they doubt their cred
DoubtGODS... Are strong.
It's been literal decades and we still have no idea what pic related was about. Obviously it doesn't make sense to address it in the manga at this point but in the decades since this page was published not a single soul has mentioned it to itagaki in an interview? I know it was implied to be Kureha but I want a definitive answer from the man himself.
>>283176653Ghost of Yuichiro
>>283176653It was Kozue
>>283176653Early Yujiro was a different animal. Remember that time the strongest creature personally endorsed this loser then killed him before the arc was even finished? I would also love to hear what Itagakis thought process was for all these weird dropped plot lines.
>>283177238>Remember that time the strongest creature personally endorsed this loser then killed him before the arc was even finished?From the beginning, that was just a lesson for Baki: "don't be a moralfag like this guy".
Does jack count as a 'potential man'?
>>283177238Remember that time he stopped an earthquake with a punch
>>283177403No that’s Pickle.
>>283177422Pickle got brutally powercrept by the narrative. He's still an S tier and basically on par with Yujiro. Itagaki just made him fight people who were potentially Yujiro tier. See, Baki who won against Yujiro, Mushashi from whom Yujiro had to be saved and Jack who was recognized as STRONG by Yujiro. He all but tried to initiate Strongest Father v Son 2 at the restaurant, meaning Jack is ready to contend with him.
When's the new chapter?
>>283167945I'm fucking dying
>>283176653Door was just locked, Yujiro is a retard
>>283177238Why was Amanai's fighting style so different in the animeIn the manga he was this cool weird grappler, in the anime he just magically t-poses through opponents
>>283177805>In the manga he was this cool weird grappler,Was he? I seem to remember aerial kicks being his thing.
>>28317775329th
>>283175356and accelerator
>>283177611Pickle has the Worf effect bad
>>283175652Retsu almost feels like a wasted character for dying and the story still continuing on, sometimes I can't help but think about what Retsu's opinion on all of what's happening would be and how he would approach itI hope we get more of Katsumi incorporating 4000 years into his Karate
>>283177407That part was all bluster to begin with. Yujiro loves to ride the line between bullshit and mythological bullshit via raw self-assured ego.
>>283179635>Ancient Sumo was already surpassed 4000 years ago, Sukune!
>>283179635Retsu had so much charisma I’m shocked at just how wasted he became, to the point where even casuals were asking if worm Retsu on the hospital bed was real just because of how weak he’d been in the story.
>>283182550I almost want to say Itagaki just got bored of Retsu and his 4000 YEARS shtick and decided to get rid of him in a way that would fit the current story he was writingIt's a real waste considering the most consistent Martial artists in Baki are a bunch of Karate Chumps, so the variety sorta drops afterwards. It's not like Jyaku or Kaku are going to come back any time soon and do anything cool anymore
>>283177403Jack won most of the fights he got into and he's acknowledged by everyone as a top tier so no
>>283182752If he got bored of Retsu how come Retsu got isekai’d? Checkmate, gweilo.
>>283166834Jack really isn't framed as being a "threat" in the same way as Musashi is though. If anything, Jack was presented as being much more dangerous than he is now during the maximum tournament. All he really does with his biting is make people bleed out, which is a non-injury in the Bakiverse.
>>283167945HOLY SHIT GEEEEEEEG
>>283166222nortubel tier body proportions
>>283183826Let’s see what you consider “good body proportions”, Da Vinci.
>>283182948Everyone else recognized killing Retsu as a mistake so Retsu gets his own isekai manga
Can someone explain this page to me
>>283184809If Jack had fallen from the top floor, he would have completely ruined the pavement.
>>283184828Just seems like there's more to it than Jack's concern for public property, you know?
>>283184873A normal person would die from such a fall, or at least be concerned about their own safety.
>>283184939It kind of feels like Jack achieved some epiphany from that moment though
>>283184990The real answer is one of two interpretations:1) He would have ruined the pavement by having his blood and guts spill all over them. He realizes he’s not as indestructible as he believed after being thrown and he’s going to be more mindful of his body’s safety in the future.2) He would have ruined the pavement by leaving a bigger crater. Jack believes he’s indestructible and is going to be even more reckless in the future because he can’t be harmed nearly as much as he can harm others.
>>283185031I think Jack has a lot of respect for the world that made him and hooked him up with every kind of steroid and is concerned that his strength could inflict harm upon it
>>283185286As long as you don’t operate heavy machinery you are free to think that.
>>283167945lost
>>283167476>>283167811>>283167945
>>283185302Jack is a son of god, he respects all living and concrete things
>>283176653
>>283184809I thought that was just him marvelling at Yujiro finally recognizing him as worthy of fighting, an equal to Baki etc. The same fall hadn't killed his brother, he would've ruined the pavement had he fallen
>>283185415Does Jack expose his asshole to the sun every morning?
>>283184809Is the pavement that strong, really?
>>283184990>>283184809I think this implies Jack is looking into glider augments
>>283185749Okay now this is based
>>283173166If Baki hadn't played the paper right at this moment, he would have been taken out for sure. Katou... was awesome
>>283185474>Is the pavement that strong, really?
I think concrete...is weak
>"That" concrete?>Yes.>"That" dull.>"That" old>"That" ubiquitous>Piece of concrete...
>>283185749>The Ancient Greeks were the first Europeans to explore the world around them. The most notable of them was a boy named Alexander the Great.>Alexander had his father, Phillip, killed, and took his crown for himself. Alexander believed that his true father was the God of the Storms, Zeus, and in his father’s name conquered the entire world the Greeks knew.>They even say he wept when he had no more worlds to conquer. In reality… he wept when he was defeated by a coterie of Jomon wanderers, who sought to challenge the world not for worldly treasures, but personal enlightenment.>The Jomon had warned Alexander of his defeat. When they heard of Zeus, they misheard it as “Susanoo”. They then called Alexander “Takeminakata”, and laughed.>Enraged, Alexander challenged them to a personal duel. One of the Jomon gladly accepted, and called himself “Takemikazuchi”.>It was as if the kami themselves fought that day, and it ended the same: The Jomon crushed Alexander’s arm like a reed using a martial art unheard of by Greece: Sumo.>Defeated and humiliated, Alexander fell into a depression, and died far from home. History says he starved himself from the loss of his male lover, for that is less humiliating to Greece than the defeat of their hero by the wandering Jomon.>However, Greece did have some humility. From the Jomon they learned sumo, which devolved under the Greeks into Greco-Roman wrestling.>This was performed by the Greeks at their Olympic Games to honor their gods.>One god was the God of the Sun, Helios.>According to the Greeks, Helios burned the wax wings of a boy named Icarus, because he did not heed his father’s warnings about flying too close to the sun.>The wax holding the feathers together melted, and Icarus fell to his death.>So, too, did Jack Hanma fall, as blood gummed up the mechanism holding his glider together.>For Jack did not listen to his father’s warnings of asking Hector Doyle’s mechanist to operate on him.
>>283185938
>>283185938its like itagaki is here with us
Do NOT look up Hanayama's win record
>>283185977Including Gaidens
>Sukune's win record
>Kehaya'a loss record :)
>>283166222Against Musashi, he's just asking to get his head cut-off or straight down the middle, he'd be lucky if all he lost was his jaw.Jack is not a serious "warrior", he's only a fighter.
1. Musashi 2. Yujiro3. Baki 4. Jack5. Hanayama6. Kaku Kaiou7. Oliva8. Gerry Stydum9. Pickle10. Doppo
>>283186100>Hanayama above Kaku KaiohI want to see the matchup.
>>283186100This list is irrefutable
>>283166222Who cares about fightfrauds after Motobe exposed them all as fodder before warriorGODS?
>>283186433Jack will have his revenge
I love Musashi.
did nobody dump the latest chapter?
>>283187610There was a chapter after Baki shook hands with whats his face?
>>283182948Itagaki isn't the one making the isekai? I hope that helps, anon.
Is this a Baki reference?
>>283187819It’s a Van Damme reference.
>>283187703yeah
>>283187703
Now that the Grappler Baki official eng hard copy did alright will there be hope for a English Garouden?
>>283184514>>283182948Retsu Isekai is my favorite comedy manga.I like the increasingly stupid ways he fights things.
>>283167945is the same person literally replying to this just to seem edgy
>>283188188>>283188215Hahahafuck
>>283167945We desperately need a new chapter itagaki....
>>283186100The armed Musashi that lost to Baki? That guy is #1?
>>283184809>The pavement? I would have no-diffed it>... I just don't wanna
>>283166222My jobber...
>>283188719>"lost">2v1 sneak attackBaki would've had to lower himself to Musashi's standards to win a fair match and he fucking knew it.
>>283188753…Pickle.
>>283188756He was about to kill a knocked out Musashi but spared him
>>283188756Musashi lost to Baki and Motobe
>>283189007Warriors like Motobe are in a tier of their own. The rest of the cast is just playfighting.
Motobe with prep time is the strongest. Even yujiro got protected against his will.
>>283188958Killing Musashi proves Musashi is right.
>>283188719Now that you mention it, that Musashi guy sounds like a fraud. Surely he's not that tough
>>283189348Katou posting makes me laugh every time.
>>283169301No lol, Retsu is too cocky, he thought that as long as it is not the neck he will always have a counterattack to it, he would be chewed alive by Jack with that mindset
>>283189388Every time I see doubtposting the image of that pose pops up in my mind
>>283179635Not really, his death against Musashi was done right. Remember he still feel grief over being unable to put his all against Pickle, as in he wasn’t willing to face death to winThe boxing arc was him slowly coming to term that he is not perfect , and against Musashi he was able to overcome the mental barrier that is his own fear. Sad that it turned into cockiness but he have always been an unruly cocky child (read his debut). Itagaki didn’t just randomly kill him off for fun
>>283184809He is admitting that he wouldn’t survived it like Baki did, he would just turn into a pile of flesh on the pavement
Kind of crazy how the only way to win against Musashi is to fucking murder him on first attack. If you let him live after 2 attacks then you are fucked, he would already figured it all out and you will not get a chance to touch him againBaki took years perfecting the super cockroach dash only for Musashi to “see it coming” the 2nd time he pull it
>>283190073I mean, Musashi aims to do the same in any serious fight.Maybe actually battle instead of play fighting?
>>283190246I just like to think how impressive it is, despite being a fighting manga, Musashi is the first one to truly have battle instinct. Everyone started with a fixed skill set, but Musashi quite literally just came up with things as he learn all the movement of his opponent, so he is super flexibleVs Hanayama for example, the first hit Musashi get to see Hanayama fighting method, the second one (when he tried to cut through his forearm), he get to feel how tough Hanayama is. That alone let him devise a perfect strategy to make him kneel
>>283190405Remember that Musashi isn't "I'm in actual, meaningful danger" Musashi but "Fucking around, playin' and training" Musashi.Even vs Motobe he was mostly training and saw Motobe as a really good training mate, rather than a threat.
>>283176653>It's been literal decades and we still have no idea what pic related was about.
>>283167945Straightest bakibro
>>283167945YOU GAY NIGGA
>>283190246>I mean, Musashi aims to do the same in any serious fightThat’s the problem, Musashi never took anyone seriously. He was just curious
>>283190525I miss this Yujiro, the current one is cool but at this moment in the story Itagaki legit wrote him like he is a comedic relief. Yujiro back then is like>AHHHHHHHHH I AM THE STRONGEST FIGHT ME>AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FISHING NET WHAT THE FUCK LET ME GO>WHAT THE FUCK I CAN'T OPEN THE DOOR>AIEEEEEEEEE DOPPO-SAMA THAT HURTI think he got hit with midlife crisis
>>283184809>getting praise from Yujiro multiple times nowWhat else is he after?
>>283191128Strenght
>>283185934>>283185877>>283185849>>283185474KEK
>>283167945this shit is like getting hit by a hidden technique unexpectedly
>>283191740Goudou's first hidden technique, biting with your anus
>>283192191>During the Colonial Americas, Europeans would import captured African soldiers to the fledgling United States.>These warriors, proud and fierce, were subjected to the most cruel physical punishments possible.>Whipping, stoning, forcing them to work in fields under a scorching sun, and carrying loads equal or greater than their body weight were common treatments of these forced slaves.>Yet, not a single African warrior wept nor pleaded, for these challenges made them stronger, faster, and more powerful.>It wasn’t until General Toussaint Louverture, a self-taught tactical genius and former slave, began and succeeded with his Haitian Revolution that the Americans realized their mistake.>They had imported and stupidly conditioned a foreign fighting force within their own territory.>Mere hours before the African soldiers could fight for their liberty, Southern plantation owners attempted to dehumanize and conquer the Zulu fighting spirit.>The white men called it… “buck breaking”.>By forcing men to submit, the rebellion that had been planned in the United States was quelled… for a time.>Frederick Douglass, a black American and abolitionist, eventually served as the United States Minister to Haiti.>While there, he begged the Haitians to reveal the secret of their success in earning their freedom.>”It is simple… to counter buck breaking…”>”… one must learn how to bite… with their ass.”>To this day, black men jealously guard their secret defense.>But, how could Jack Hanma learned this technique…?!>”I’m a combat genius…”>”After I dropped the soap the second time, I immediately knew and mastered biting with my ass.”>”No one’s going to fuck me ever again…!”
>>283167945why are russians so goddamn fucking gayasking as a russian here
Jack will unlock his demon back soon btw
Strong boys doing strong things
>>283193440https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOGlzopOOr0
>>283176037>cliffhanger on the most one sided match in the world into a breakSandwich...is strong
>>283193433demon ass
>>283194650Canon
>There is one event that has left a strong impression on my memory.>That was in 2014 when I spoke to Itagaki-sensei, author of Grappler Baki.>At the time, Itagaki-sensei was finally ready to relaunch the Baki series and start a new series after a year long break. To the surprise of fans, the serialization of Baki-do, which revives 'Musashi Miyamoto' using cloning technology and pits him against modern-day Baki and his friends, has begun.>One day, over the phone, I was suddenly asked:>Mr. Itagaki: "Saito-chan, Do you know what Halo 4 is?">Saito: "Eh...?You mean that foreign game...?">Mr. Itagaki: "Yeah, yeah, yeah... that Halo background art. It's amazing. I'd love to incorporate it into Baki!">Saito: "……!!?">Mr. Itagaki "So, I' m going to revive Musashi Miyamoto, aren't I? Can you make the underground facility there like Halo? I'll send you the setting references now.">I was immensely impressed by so much. Halo is indeed a very well-known overseas title, but in Japan it had not yet become a big topic of conversation, and even more so when Itagaki-sensei, who was almost 60 years old at the time, was impressed by Halo's game graphics and decided to use it.Halo is strong...
What is strong?It was never explained to us. "Strong is beautiful", but is strong an aspect of beauty inherently to anything else that is beautiful? Is a painting or a sculpture strong just as it's beautiful? Is the strongest father and child fight also the most beautiful? "Being strong is marvelous", yet, what is "marvelous"? Is strong a concept by itself or is it an amalgamation of other parts? When one is strong, he could be skillfull and mighty amongst his peers, yet is the one with greater skillfull and mighty stronger than, you could say, the one who has great resilience and will? Is Iron Mike stronger than Chiharu? Is Pickle more beautiful than Jack? What is strong?
>>283191128>Have not actually beat Yujiro
>>283191128Beating Baki, the STRONGEST creature alive
>>283196064>What is strong?We're not doing this again, pick up a goddamn dictionary
>>283190004The opposite. He was more concerned with destroying public property than he was with any sort of bodily harm that would have come to him.
>>283196064https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN25ghkfgQA
Son of Ogre Baki couldn't beat Pickle with brute strenght alone and eventually won on technicality. Jack low-diffed Pickle and made him look like a bitch with Goudou and Technique.So Tryhard Jack > Bruteforce Baki.Hmmm...
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>>283194650WTF, this isn't canon
>>283197389Damn Jack is above a 75kg 169cm tall boy, what a feat for a 220kg 240cm tall man
>>283197389Yeah, but is Jack above Baki when using techniques?
>>283197927I think Jack can counter any regular technique, but i have no idea how he'd account for Cockroach Dash, or the below a second and a half hit.
>>283197318But all I see is a picture of Hanayama!
>>283166222Now that it has been 35 years, we can all agree that Baki vs Jack in the MT is the best fight of the franchise, right?
>>283198257It's great. My personal favourites, from memory, are:>Hanayma vs Musashi>Jack vs Pickle (Pickle arc)>the Father Son Fight>Baki vs Retsu maximum tournament>Hanayama vs SpecBaki vs Jack is probably up there though.
>>283198644>>Hanayama vs SpecThat fight is so fucking funny in retrospect.It's just Speck loredumping and going>SEE BOY... WE FIGHT DIRTY... TO THE DEAAATH...>"Ok">THIS AIN'T NO UNDERGROUND TOKYO ARENA ANYMORE...>"Ok">SNEAK ATTACKS, WEAPONS, DIRTY TRICKS AND TECHNIQUES... EVERYTHING GOES... BOY>"Ok cool".>Punches him so hard Speck can barely stand up straight.>Tanks 2 magdumps from a revolver>Tanks a flashbang>Tanks curbstomping>Beats Speck within an inch of his life as if though it was nothing more than a shitty street brawl.CHADayama vs Basedspeck unironically.
What chapter was Hanayama vs Spec?
>>283199198>Missing the part where Hanayama has bullets explode in his mouth somehowIt was a very nice fight
>>283167945все кончено
>>283199198Spec's the only Convict out of the bunch who meant what he said about wanting to take an L, everyone else chimped out and were left mindbroken or paralyzed Dorian too I guess
>>283199347Speck really got the cleanest defeat out of all of them. He did everything he could've done, his opponent held back, and he still got low-diffed.
>>283199217Must be towards the beginning of the second manga, New Grappler Baki.A quick google search gives me chapter 39 of that manga as "Kaoru Hanayama Versus Spec, the Final Showdown!!", so a few chapters before it should start.
Did the convicts (or I guess just spec and maybe dorian since the others turned out to be bitch niggas later on) fit the criteria of a warrior as defined by motobe and musashi? Like musashi they fought to kill or gain something from killing their opponent, their fights were 'anything goes' and they preferred using weapons to actual martial arts.
>>283200541I don't know, did they really "get something" out of it? They were still just fighting for the joy of it. But yeah, I think the central theme of Musashi Dou is kind of retreateing the theme of the inmates.Really, Baki is a story about retelling the same three or four messages over and over again.
>>283200844As ive read more and more stories, i noticed the best ones tend to be about a few strong core messages which are then examined and displayed in creative ways.Jack v Hanayama rethreads a ton of points already covered by most of Hanayamas fights from the past, but the sheer juxtaposition of the two makes it a standout moment regardless.My favourite "tick" of Itagaki is when he reluctantly describes characters as fat or obese before backtracking immediately and stating that they are just that bulked up with muscle it looks like morbid obesity.>The man was THICK.
>>283199220>somehowThat was the least bullshit thing about it. It's really not that hard to make a bullet go off of with brute force. That's how the gun discharges them. A little mechanical component hits the back of the round. They're just small metal casings carrying gunpowder all in all.
I'll save this thread from page 10... No matter what.
Spec may have lost the fight but I bet Hanayama can't overflow a urinal with his unending stream of steaming hot piss.
>>283202320Yes anon. We must save this thread.... these anons... these heros..... from the monster known as page 10!
AIIIIIEEEEEE Baki the concrete got me! Run for your life!
>That "concrete" guy...>I wonder if he'd be up for a street brawl.
>>283203154He'd lose but would look cool and overshadow the concrete entirely before falling
>>283200541>fit the criteria of a warrior as defined by motobe and musashi?No, they were jobbers taking shortcuts>Yanagi went into weaponry when that wasn't his strong suit>Dorian gave himself body modifications as a crutch>Doyle flat out abandoned 4000 years for trickery>Sikorsky was just trolling and getting by on his weird pinch grip strength
Boxingbros......
>>283203785...Boxing?Strong?
>>283203785My fav part about Retsu'a boxing miniarc was his fight against Smokin' Joe.You really could feel the respect Retsu had for a hardened fighter, even if he set out to discredit his martial art of choice.I also don't think Retsu hated boxing, he just wanted to show the world that they can, and should attempt to build on top of his four hundred years, same way he does with karate practicioners.It was more like, "I respect your martial art, but it's still in its infancy. Please be inspired by, and grow thanks to my martial arts, which have long been completed."
>>283203843>four hundred years,Thousand. Sorry, its late.
Oliva? Certified Doyle victim.
Wasnt concrete a thing in ancient rome?Meaning it has... Over TWO THOUSAND YEARS OF HISTORY......
>>283203016AAAAIIIIEEEEE I'LL SAGE YOU APART
Anon... Don't challenge the Janny. He's "too much" for you...
>>283176653When did he first turn from that into monster mode?
Motobe v Jack is one of the peaks of the series for me.I love how Memtobe keeps glazing him throughout his no-diffing.He really loves the fighters of the Bakiverse. It sells the idea that his protection isnt born of ego, but love...One panel that always stuck out to me was this. It's incredibly poetic in spite of not saying much beyond a literal description of the scene.>Even on his knees... He's still huge.It's Motobe acknowledging that fighters like Jack, even in defeat are a sight to behold. It tells us a lot about his own personal philosophy. In his "acceptance" of defeat, he's an outsider to the cast. It showcases his warrior mindset. He's the ultimate doubtGOD. For him, every fight is uncertain and potentially lethal, and even Ogre isn't exempt from the chaos of the battlefield. That's why he approaches every battle with a killing intent, and that'a why he was able to win against Mushashi.Not to glaze too.hard, but truly, no other fighting manga could approach these ideas in that way.Cant wait for animeonlies to be graced with GODTOBE.
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