October 22nd.You know what that means:Happy Birthday, Minako-chan!
As always, say your wishes to our girl, and use the opportunity to talk about her manga.I'll see which chapter I can post later on.
liked her until she thought it was okay for her to twotime but not okay for a boy to do it. I have no patience for Woman Moments
>>283191210>until she thought it was okay for her to twotimeWell, it was. Those two were superficial jerks anyway.
>>283191318she was being just as superficial.
>>283191009>mfw I have to go to my job tomorrow on the non-JST side of her birthday>mfw I was focusing/practicing my figure drawings/poses on my other interests while I was drawing her closeups/facial expressions instead for the Minako side.Fug.
>>283191439Of course. That's the whole point of vapid teenage dating, isn't it?>>283191445>I have to go to my job tomorrowToo late to call in sick?Either way, don't stress it. Just stay with her in spirit.
how old is she now
Made my own gif file of this moment.
>>283192027We don't know exactly, since there's no verified date of when the series take place, and for anyone other than Usagi we do not even know the exact age at the start and end of it, just a range of 13 to 15.What we do know is that the Sailor Moon series takes place over a span of 2 to 3 years. (Usagi is 14 in episode /chapter1 and 16 by the end of it). We also know that Codename wa Sailor V takes place roughly one year before Sailor Moon begins, likely a bit more (since Minako spends some time abroad and working both with the Japanese police and Interpol). Minako is 13 at the start of Sailor V.Other than that, it's highly likely that it all takes place in the 1990s due to what we can see of the setting (most noticably the fashion). Late 80s or early 00s are somewhat feasible, but you can make a much stronger case for the mid-90s.In other words, the girls would now be in their 40s, and we should actually be in the new Silver MIllenium by now. Don't ask me why that never happened. Something must have gone wrong.
>>283191637the story presents her as being morally correct, it's a bad lesson for the girls watching.
>>283192235>it's a bad lesson for the girls watching.It's not supposed to be a lesson. Art imitates life.
>>283192282hence: >>283191210the show is for 9 year old girls, they're going to take things away from it
>>283192655>the show is for 9 year old girlsThe manga is for 14+ year-old girls. The anime was for everyone, especially at a point as late as the SuperS season. And the episode was highly comedic in nature. You worry too much.
>>283192732shojo primary demographic is 7-14 year olds. josei is for 14+. Sailor Moon is shojo.
>>283193706>shojo primary demographic is 7-14 year olds.Nakayoshi's target demographic has always included 14-16 year-olds, anon. And it's no coinicdence that Usagi is exactly 14 in chapter 1. They're clearly targeting their oldest readers and trying to get the upper end of the 12-14 bracket interested as well.It's also a manga that ran for 5 years, which means the readers that stuck with it from the beginning were adults when it ended.Furthermore, during its run Nakayoshi saw an unprecedented readership increase, peaking with the mugen/S arc, which strongly indicates a cross-demographic interest.
>>283191009Best girlBest Sailor SenshiLov Mina chan
>>283193866the intent is the girls are 'aspirational neechans' for the girls reading. Look up to them and try to be like them. Same reason Goku is 30+ years old in DBZ.
Idol outfit with a non-red ribbon.
>>283193921>the intent is the girls are 'aspirational neechans' for the girls reading.Usagi? Aspirational?Come on, anon. She works well as an identifyable protagonist, with all her weaknesses she has to overcome. But not as a rolemodel. At least not until much later.I recommend you read through a full Nakayoshi issue. You'll quickly notice which kind of manga is actually intended for the 7-9 year-old audience. And also which ones generally aren't. They often had horror serials, for example, intended for the 14+ demographic. Sailor Moon itself has some light body-horror.Same can be said for Sailor V and RunRun, which was a somewhat less mainstream publication that tended to get a bit more experimental here and there. Speaking of Run Run, that's also where the Chibi-Usa Picture Diaries released, which in turn do include many elements that speak to a decidedly younger audience than the main series chapters. In case you want to see what a Sailor Moon for 9-year-olds would actually have looked like.
Can I understand the Sailor V manga without knowing much about Sailor Moon and no intention to ever read SM?This manga finished after SM did right? Did SM influence the manga overtime? Did it change a lot over the years?
>>283194317>Can I understand the Sailor V manga without knowing much about Sailor Moon and no intention to ever read SM?Yes. Sailor V actually came first, believe it or not. They both released concurrently, and as you noted, Sailor V actually ended later than Sailor Moon. Yet it's also the shorter of the two because it released less frequently.I'd argue that this is a good thing as it doesn't have the pacing issue the Sailor Moon manga has (which is often rushing a bit to conclude the story arcs as the TV seasons went).>Did SM influence the manga overtime? Did it change a lot over the years?A bit. But I'd argue that the influence was stronger the other way around. A lot of the slice-of-life elements and the monster-of-the day format and the general structure that the anime had were taken from Sailor V rather than the Sailor Moon manga.
Minako nails
>>283194209you don't know what 'aspirational' means.
>>283194317Sailor V is its own thing. it was originally the pilot for Sailor Moon, and then got evolved into a prequel.
>>283194887And you do?
>>283191210She gets her bratty comeuppance by ending up with the fat, the old, the balding and the virile.
>>283194952yes. Usagi's klutzy crybaby tendencies are supposed to make her relatable, but in spite of them she still rises to the challenge and becomes a hero, which is what makes her aspirational. the little girls watching are supposes to think "she's just like me, yet she becomes so cool! I want to be just like her!"(this is the part of the discussion where you pretend there weren't immeasurable numbers of little girls who didn't say "I want to be like Sailor Moon when I grow up")
>>283195054Artemis is not fat!
>>283195152>little girls watching are supposes to think "she's just like me, yet she becomes so cool!Except she's significantly older than those little girls and deals predominantly with teenage problems. Making her the ideal self-insert for that exact demographic she herself would be part of.By the way, Usagi is actually shown reading Nakayoshi herself several times in the anime. As an easter egg, sure, but it shows that you are off about your "7-14 target demographic".
>>283195218and usagi is explicitly stated to be immature and childish. checkmate
>>283195242>usagi is explicitly stated to be immature and childishAs are many real life girls her age.
>>283195267which is why she's meant to chiefly appeal to girls with a younger "girlish" mindset. preteens. the shojo demographic.
>>283195347Why is this "muh little girls" shitposting so important for you anyways? Particularly because you don't seem to know anything about the Nakayoshi magazine?
>>283195297Reminds me of how they never made a Sailor V anime after Cosmos ended. Probably better this way, even if the new anime got better towards the end.
>>283195478>appeal to trivialityyou're the one who got tilted when I pointed out Mina's two timing double standard sent a bad message to the audience.
>>283195589>no answerWell then ... whatever.
>>283195638it bothered you more than it bothered me. ask yourself why you care so much, before projecting onto randoms on the internet.
>>283195508it's really only got enough content for an OVA or two, is why. Maybe in the 90s it would've happened.
>>283192732>especially at a point as late as the SuperS seasonSuperS in particular was the season where the executives went all-in on pursuing the toddler audience at the expense of the original plot by turning it into The Chibiusa Show.
>>283195777>it's really only got enough content for an OVA or two, is why.Nah. Every chapter could provide enough material for one full episode. Just give Hikaru and Amano a bit more to do, add a henshin sequence for Minako that you can recycle if needed, prolong the fights a bit, and you get your 20-minute runtime. It's the exact episode structure the 90s anime had, and frankly, they did have way less material to work with. 12 or 13 episodes (if you combine some shorter chapters) would fit the manga's plotline very smoothly.But I agree that the 90s would have been a better time to release something like that.
>>283196078
>>283195992>turning it into The Chibiusa Show.I know that this is a common sentiment, but the whole coming-of-age aspect, the fear of growing up, this whole Peter-Pan-adjacent thematic complex, is actually pretty dark if you start thinking about it. SuperS was also not too shabby for the "Inner senshi", giving each of them an episode showcasing the conflicts that come with adolescence and growing up, finding yourself and your place in society. The Minako episode in question is a good example of that.And of course the special chapters that the girls got in the manga (of which only Ami's received an animted adaptation).In fact, the older I get, the more I find myself defending the SuperS season and its themes as way deeper than they seem at first glance.That being said, yes, the Chibi-Usa focus certainly was a nod to her younger fans and caused a bit of dismay with older audience members.
>>283196213She's right, you know ...
>>283196213She's so smart
>>283196213damn...
>>283191056Huh, her school uniform had a red+white lining on the blue parts as opposed to later artworks having it as a plain white.
Is there an explanation why Sailor V's outfit changes to Venus' outfit when transforming once she joins the group?I wonder why there was no OVA or even spin-off about Sailor V in the 90s after the show ended or even during its run counting how big the anime was.
>>283196453GIWTWM
>>283191009Is the Sailor V Manga worth reading? I've only watched the Sailor Moon anime.
>>283191009I had no idea, happy bday
>>283196496Interesting observation.Indeed, her first ever appearance (Chapter 3 in the August 1991 Run Run issue) has her with that red stripe ...
>>283196496>>283196907... but the very next time (Chapter 4, April 1992) she's shown with a pure white stripe on the magazine cover.The white stripe then stays for the regular school uniform. Both in chapter colour pages and in promotional art ...
>>283196496>>283196936... wheras the Sailor V uniform, of course, keeps the red stripe throughout.Wonder why the Takeuchi reconsidered.
>>283196839>Is the Sailor V Manga worth reading?Yes. Most definitely if you're a fan of the Sailor Moon anime. It has a very similar structure and feeling to it.If you stick around in this thread, I'm going to post a chapter later. Probably chapter 1 to start with, even.
>>283193919>>283196907Seeing both Sailor V's anime and 1991 manga designs in this thread, Sailor V herself got some alterations. Different glove designs (1991 had the red lining on it), the crescents are removed from arms and ankles, and the skirt lost the white trimming.
>>283197068This swing could kill Goku
>>283196551>Is there an explanation why Sailor V's outfit changes to Venus' outfit when transforming once she joins the group?Not officially, as far as I know. But Minako's role changes, from a "lone ranger" to part of a team. So, even though she effectively becomes the team leader, it seems adequate to adopt the team's colour coded and somewhat simpler uniform style, and not stand out too much (especially beause Sailor V was somewhat of a celebrity with an iconic look, which might potentially distract from the team now).Of course, it's later established that the orange uniform was her default costume from way back anyway, so maybe the question should be why Artemis didn't give her this one to begin with.Out of universe, of course, there's a simple explanation of that: The manga was inspired by Cutie Honey, who has an iconic red/blue/gold colour scheme. Both V and Moon inherited that one.>I wonder why there was no OVA or even spin-off about Sailor V in the 90s after the show ended or even during its run counting how big the anime was.Everyone wonders that. The "after it ended" part can kinda be explained by Sailor Moon losing a bit of popularity towards the end, alledgedly the working relation between Takeuchi and TOEI (and also Nakayoshi) also soured a bit on the business side, and the Sailor Moon team mostly moved on to other projects (most of them ironically to another Cutie Honey series that felt a lot like another Sailor Moon season).During its run many other manga chapters got adapted. The Chibi Usa Diaries in part, Ami's special chapter, and most famously the Kaguya-hime story.
>>283197003True for the anime.The manga design in itself stayed very consistent though. Pic related is from the magazine issue with the last chapter ever (November 1997).What's most notable about the anime design are the orange rims of the gloves. They are, of course, part of her Sailor Venus uniform. The anime staff obviously must have known from early on that she would be part of the team and sport an orange costume.
>>283196907>August 1991Damn, next year is gonna be Codename Sailor V's 35th anniversary.
>>283197630Yeah. We're all getting old.
Minako's maid attires.
>>283197693the girls were mostly born in 1978-1979, they're all close to 50 now
>>283198282>the girls were mostly born in 1978-1979That's only if you assume that the story started in 1992. See >>283192224But it's probably somewhere in that ballpark.
What catchphrases would a talking Sailor Venus barbie say when squeezed?
>>283192224>>283198372calendars show up in a few episodes and explicitly say 1992-1993.
>>283198607All the fight intros she used throughout the series, I assume. Plus maybe a few she used in her episodes in the anime. The kindergarten episode from R comes to mind.
>>283198650There's also a concert ticket in Stars that says 1996. And both of those can't be true considering Usagi only ages around 2 years throughout the whole thing.
>>283198710if the ticket is for a future event, you could feasibly say it's a year or two in the future.
>>283198944>you could feasibly say it's a year or two in the future.I think that's a stretch. The Star senshi wouldn't expect to stay on Earth that long. (And didn't they also show the concert? Or was that a different one?)
>>283199082I've bought concert tickets roughly 18 months ahead of time.
>>283191445Dork
>>283199219Yeah, but Taylor Swift isn't going to return to her home planet when it gets restored after the final battle, is she?
>>283199304Elvis did
>>283198681And where would you squeeze the barbie to make her talk?
>>283199389Fair enough. But did he have any more concerts planned at that point?
>>283199416No dirty thoughts, anon!You'd of course pull her ribbon. Nothing more.
>>283191637Finally mustering up the cour/a/ge and posting a few of my illustrations I've scanned in this thread. Gonna check on what else I drew later. Also got my full Driver's License at the first month of this year compared to me failing it last year..https://i.imgur.com/JLXonAk.jpeg
>>283199865Thanks for posting, anon! Particularly because hand-drawn stuff gets scarcer and scarcer in these days of AI stuff (barely a handfull of decent things on pixiv so far today that one could repost here).You've improved a lot since last year.And congrats to your license!
>>283199485yeah
>>283199940Sucks for his fans then.
who is /a/'s consensus favorite senshi?
>>283199975it was genuinely like when Michael Jackson died
>>283200147There really isn't one. (There might be one for this thread though.)But there definitelyis a consensus on one question:Artemis > Luna
>>283199865Based, I need to get some drawing in too>>283200147Probably Sailor Moon herself. She gets discussed the most. The rest of the senshi feel like niches
>>283200222besides usagi, any guess? I feel like its Mercury or Jupiter.
>>283191009Why can't she get a boyfriend?
>>283200231>>283200222I thought it was Mars.
>>283200251Same reason the other inner senshis can't besides Usagi herself.
>>283200262I feel like mars is just /a/ being contrarian but im a sailor moon noob
>>283200280>>283200251So basically bee hive mentality?
>>283200222>Probably Sailor Moon herself.Well, that was true for the Nakayoshi polls back in the day. But that one did have a massive main-character bias (as well as a slight newly-introduced-character bias and a curious anti-Rei bias).I don't think Usagi herself is generally considered the favourite senshi by most people nowadays. Exactly because all the others fill specific niches that appeal to different people.
>>283200262Mars has a dedicated schizo but he doesn't represent everyone.I see way more people appreciating Usagi and/or Minako
>>283200312Usagi and Minako are personally my favorites. I love blondes.
>>283200346They also share the same braincell so if you like one very often you like the other too.
>>283200147Makoto
>>283200147Jupiter is the normalfag choice, Moon is for people who only saw maybe three episodes as a kid and she's the only one they remember, Mars is for the mentally ill, Chibiusa is for paedophiles Mercury is for weebs. Nobody cares about the Outers. so, it's a toss-up between Amy and Raye. Hotaru is my girl
>>283191009Is the Sailor Moon remake as funny as the original?
>>283200385oh, and Venus is for contrarians.
>>283200385I saw all 200 eps and movies, also tried crystal but it sucked too hard for me to make it past one season.Usagi was best girl all the way through.
>>283200391No. It's closer to the manga (except for when it isn't for no good reason), and therefore shares the manga's high pacing and lack of slice-of-life.
What's the chances that code name sailor v ever be animated? Also has someone done reading of the manga on you tube yet?>>283200280Cause their young?
>>283191009Objectively the most attractive sailor scout, it's a shame Takeuchi didn't give her enough spotlight in the manga
>>283200251Men in that universe are gay
>>283200385Where did you get this ideal from?
>>283200422Crystal gets way better after S2. for whatever reason Toei totally phoned in the first seasons, made some truly abhorrent garbage. the Crystal movies are probably the best Sailor Moon content put to film, in terms of quality.
>>283200231>besides usagi, any guess?Ami or Minako likely. Rei has one big fan, Makoto is liked, but not beloved.
>>283200460Actually it's a manga thing where they are supposed to be completely devoted to their princess.Doesn't make much sense in the anime but I guess they were trying to not become a literal fanfic.
>>283200479Would you or younger self actually have a chance with her being it as a friend or love interest?
>>283200460>What's the chances that code name sailor v ever be animated?Low. There'll always be more capital and brand recognition behind Sailor Moon. Best shot is another Sailor Moon anime getting made, being incredibly successful and there being a demand for more.
>>283200512I think you meant for someone else anon.
>>283200364Kind of why I "dislike"(I don't) Minako. She's just another dumb flavor of Usagi. I thought she was gonna be mysterious and reliable, a polar opposite of Usagi. But she's just Usagi but more retarded. I still like her though. A shame that her Sailor V persona is trash so quickly.
>>283200518Best I could do is become Usagi's friend. Namely because she is the most approachable person in the SM universe.
>>283200346Fine taste brother. Usagi and Minako might be ditzy but their physical beauty sweeps the other scouts
>>283200479Devil's advocate comment: She is also a confirmed two-timer who's open to seeing multiple guys at once; the same episode implying that she's also open to a three-way.
>>283193919Why does she need a mask?
>>283200518Beating Artemis in the race for her affection? Hard, if not impossible.Getting her to concentrate less of her job?Again, hard.You'd have to support her in any way possible and still wouldn't get her full attention. Might be worth it anyway.
>>283200555Is this for your younger self or in general?
>>283200496I actually found season 1 and 2 the most engaging(though this would apply to the manga too). I feel like the Infinity arc and Dead Moon Circus are just a complete downgrade to the 90s anime. Not a single interesting new addition(coming from a 90s anime viewer). I still need to watch the 2nd Cosmos movie. But the first one also just felt inferior to the 90s version.
>>283200594My younger self would have a better chance, and not just because of age
>>283200493every chick I've ever spoken to about the series said she identified most with Jupiter, because of her "tomboy but not really struggle to fit in with other girls" schtick that every real girl thinks she goes through these days. Same with the handful of guys IRL I've seen admit they watched it. Jupiter, by virtue of being the most 'mature', feels the "safest" to like I guess. The only people I've seen say like Mars are a sect of schizoids who lose their minds whenever they see someone say she's shit. Venus is too similar to Moon so only autists care to make the distinction between them, and Venus usually gets picked by contrarians who think Moon is too 'mainstream' as a result. the nerdy quiet refined bookworm has never been an archetype that was all that popular in the west, but it is pretty popular in Japan (Mercury typically is the highest-rated Scout in Japan), so the westerners who prefer her trend towards weebery. the sort who were watching fansubs of the series back during the VHS days, and therefore probably would be oldfags. That's why I would say Mercury is the 4chan choice, at least for oldfags. Schizoid newfags (I repeat myself) probably trend towards Mars.
>>283200564
>>283200566What's the problem with the word missus?>>283200589Pretty sure Artemis is with Luna.
>>283200546You read her completely wrong, anon. I recommend reading Sailor V carefully and watching her dedicated episodes. She's very sensitive, thoughtful and dependable, generally stands up for what she believes in and extremely loyal and dedicated. The silly and cheerfully jokester persona is one she keeps up as a front, to protect herself, but mostly to protect and alleviate others.
>>283200630They are calling her a hag
>>283200630>Pretty sure Artemis is with Luna.Pretty sure he is not. He belongs to Minako.
>>283200630before Diana was introduced, the anime staff played with the idea of Luna and Artemis being attracted to humans. Artemis and Mina have a couple of shipbait scenes, the most overt being the one where he gives her flowers for her birthday when nobody else seems to remember, or whatever the circumstance was.
>>283200677>t.Minako
>>283200695The manga does it as well. Repeatedly. AFTER Diana's introduced.
>>283200629>>283191009Sociopath
>>283200656>Sailor VI got reminded by this
>>283200730Imagine Mina getting BARBED
>>283200758
>>283200758Lmao.Alright she can be second best girl again.
>>283200766She is a love goddess for a reason.
>>283200804Chibiusa goes on a rant against some feminazi who was going around saying men were evil.
>>283200806Kek'd
>>283200832Maybe she isn't that unlikeable after all
>>283200851We love Chibiusa here
>>283200851Of course she isn't. She's just a little girl who likes horses and phallic symbols.
>>283200851Unlikeable?
>>283200851most of her hate comes from people watching the show when they were like 11 years old, so they could only see her as reflective of their own bratty kid sister. You need to reach a certain age to be able to appreciate a girl like Minibun. She is handcrafted to appeal to ojiisans
>>283200618I like Rei but I'll be the first to admit that she has an attitude problem. Also I'm surprised it's Saturn not more popular then Mercury at least in Japan.>>283200675How exactly missus mean hag. Also why no pre teens hitting on her.>>283200695Luna and Artemis being attracted to humans why and how would that even work?
>>283200731Perfect for ojisans.
>>283200953>Also I'm surprised it's Saturn not more popular then Mercury at least in Japan.She is, depending on whom you ask.See >>283200306 or pic related to better spot the individual poll results.She topped the Mugen arc poll (when she was introduced) and still performed better than Ami in the last two polls.>>283200953>How exactly missus mean hag.It doesn't. Bad translation issue.>>283200953>how would that even work?This is a blue board, anon. But it would. (They have "human" forms, by the way.)
>>283200953Saturn is arguably the originator of the slang term 'moe', so she definitely has fans. but Mercury gets like 20x the screentime and character development so it's inevitable she'll outrank one of the two least-utelised scouts. Artemis and Luna are fully sapient, them fucking normal cats is probably equivalent to you or me fucking some low-functioning retard who shits herself and can't eat without assistance.
>>283200385I watch the series entirely two time and i love usagi michiru and minako
>>283200898Nothing her parents can't fix.That and a few more things and she might turn out to be a good wife in a very distant future.
>>283201119>michiruI like her too
>>283201165Michiru is probably better for a long-term relationship. But for hot steamy sex I'd take Haruka.
>>283201233>But for hot steamy sex I'd take HarukaAs her cousin of course.
>>283201276Sure. I've always wanted a threesome with two ... cousins ... anyway.
>>283201276I'd like to Brad instead
>>283200565So it wouldn't be painful.
>>283201479Wasn't there a fan game that used this pic?
>>283201479I just remembered she faked her death that felt a bit dark
>>283201492Dunno, probably? I don't know much about fan stuff. I do remember the arcade games in the anime always having Sailor V games then they moved to Sailor Moon.
>>283201276>cousinWhy did the dub team think this was the best way around Haruka and Michiru being blatant dykes?
>>283200560They are by far the most beautiful scouts, their ditzy personalities add to their charm too. Plus how horny Minako gets is nice.
>>283201531>I just remembered she faked her death that felt a bit darkWell, she didn't really fake it. She just didn't correct people when they thought she was dead.It's a bit like dropping off 4chan, leaving people wondering whether that one anon died or just got a life.
>>283201531Sailor V really seems dark. She is fighting criminals who tried to frag her. That's pretty intense.
>>283201574Because certain states in the US demand a certain incest quota.
Do you guys make fan content or roleplay about her or the other scouts?
>>283201479>those shoulder padslooks like she just came back from Namek
>>283201718>roleplayAnon. I'm a man in my late 30s. You don't really expect me to dress up in a senshi uniform, do you?
>>283201574because in the eyes of a ten year old you could kinda sorta be gaslit into thinking it's familial affection. it was either that or cut them out of the show entirely, which would totally gut S. >>283201650it was made in Canadia
>>283201718I draw the scouts sometimesand want to make a crossover doujin with DBZ
>>283201802>it was made in CanadiaAired in the US though?
>>283201821so did Doctor Who, doesn't make it an american show
>>283201819Based.
>>283201861
>>283201837Well, did they have Dr. Who redubbed to turn some lesbians into lesbian cousins?
>>283201882Perfect
>>283201893no, but Bob the Builder was redubbedit was a Canadian decision to make them gay cousins
>>283201934>Bob the Builder was redubbedThere are lesbians in Bob the Builder?
>>283201764Well if England counts, then it's her Namek.
>>283201781I mean using llm like grok.>>283201819Can you post them also what would even look like and how would it work?
>>283201968nope, because the show wasn't made for Canadians
>>283201971>if England countsHas anyone ever found out where in England she was? My bet would be the Industrial North. Liverpool is a relatively large city with that somewhat rustic atmosphere, and most importantly, it has a pretty sizable port.Not the only option, of course. But it fits.
How many love interest did she has?
>>283202258Crushes, many.Traditional love interests, only a single serious one (Ace in the latter half of Sailor V).Two if Takeuchi had her way (Kunzaito).True loves, only Artemis.
Minako made me like characters with hair bows.
>>283202451She lost her innocence that day.
>>283202451Is that a real toy? Also what's the joke?
Mercury is so boring
>>283202529Shin-chan is a bad influence and causes little boys to act rambunctious
>>283201165This episode was fun. I like the different pairings that don't normally interact
>>283202529Well looks like bootleg Shin. Probably since Shin-chan has been around forever. Shin shows up in different anime from time to time so keep your eye out for him.
>>283202601Yeah it was nice change of pace, Ami and Haruka was an unexpected pair.
>>283201819>>283201861Usagi beats Galaxia. Doesn't that make her star-buster tier?
Anime mars is too antagonistic and bratty for me.
>>283202529It's a Shin-chan easter egg.That exact toy doesn't exist, mainly because the character's name is misspelled. But there are several similar keychains that you can find online.
>>283202647Reibros...are we gay???
Codename Sailor V Minako is awesomeManga SM Minako is good, albeit sidelined90s anime Minako starts off interesting but becomes goofy later onNever seen Crystal MinakoPGSM Minako is interesting, not the bestNever seen any of the musicals.
>>283202529The kid had the voice of Shin-chan
>>283202669Her antagonism makes her fun. Usagi needs to be put in her place from time to time. She is also cool with Minako.
>>283202669Oh boy. If you think Anime-Rei is too "antagonistic" I don't want to know what you think about Manga-Rei.
>>283202725I wish she was close to myanus
>>283202669Her bickering with Usagi is funny
>>283202763Usagi, Minako and Rei make for a pretty good trio. That usually leaves Makoto having to pair up with Ami for scenes, not because those two are a good fit for each other, but because they're the only ones left.Makoto generally pairs better with Minako as well.
>>283202647>HarukaWhy is she a lesbian. Also why Rei follow her?
>>283202751>PGSMwhat and musicals since when?>>283202767nta.How bad is it?
Usagi & Ami are the dumb & smart duoUsagi & Rei are frenemiesUsagi & Makoto are troublemakersUsagi & Minako are the dumb blondes
Rei straight put a heel in Usagi's butt.
Is the Sailor V focused episode in the anime based off the V manga or SM manga?
>>283202894This kick alone could kill every anon here
>>283202858Love action series Minako is an idol and she's portrayed as more distant and aloof, but she has goody moments too. She reminded me of Onpu Segawa where she can seem a bit cold, but she's just really busy and has a full time job.
>>283202858>How bad is it?Depends on how well you can deal with a general mistrust towards men and daddy-issues.
>>283202869Isn't that one by Azuma, the creator of Azumanga Daioh and 4chan-girl?
>>283202946Yes.
>>283202911Neither. It kinda picks up on Minako's plans to work with the police in the last chapter of Sailor V though.
>>283199266Wait. Dork as in her, me, or both?
>>283202650Cell tried to blow up the sun but Gohan stopped him. Buu was able to rip holes in the fabric of reality.
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>>283202922Let me guess it gets worst over time.>>283202975What countries does she travel to?
>>283203171Yes.
>>283202922anime Raye doesn't have so many hangups about men because she has a pervy grandpa to keep her grounded
>>283203411Why didn't her grandfather hit on her friends? Also doesn't he have a name?
>>283203301>Let me guess it gets worst over time.No, it actually gets a bit better, or at least less prominent.>What countries does she travel to?In the Sailor V manga? Hawaii (but actually Greece) and China.
>>283203439he did, didn't he?
>>283203439>>283203491He did in the beginning, but I guess he got used to them over time.
I'm rewatching the dic dub and something I noticed is how the voices are mostly good (Brooklyn Molly) but the dialogue and the direction is kinda bad.
>>283203514Never understood why >>283203459Oh really then she choose celibacy and don't pursuit then? Is there a map of the places she went to.
>>283203556most anime dub VAs back then came from regular animation or live acting so were actually competent at their job, unlike modern anime VAs whose only experience is watching anime and autistically emulating 'anime' voices.
>>283203628>Is there a map of the places she went to.Don't think a map is of that much use when you don't know the exact location. Well, Greece was Athens, I think.
>>283202788Why was the animation in the beginning of R so jank? This is 2 minutes of the same background. I remember the rest of the episode being wonky too
>>283203847Why is she c cup here?
>>283203888She needs something to go with those great legs.
>>283202340What did she even sees in Ace?
>>283203847Great episode. I can only reiterate that episodes 100-109 has to be the greatest run of 10 back-to-back-episodes ever. That encompasses two Minako episodes (100 and109), the Usagi birthday double (101 and 102), my own very favourite episode (108) which has some of the best comedic moments, and almost the whole Eudial arc (103-109).
>>283203964Mystery? Possible companionship? A white knight?The same things Usagi saw in Tuxedo Kamen, whom Ace is a trope inversion of.
>>283191009Usagi > Rei > Makoto > Haruka > Setsuna > Ami > Chibi-Usa > Hotaru > Minako > Michiru
>>283202913she should do it with no shoe on
>>283204090how does she miss a target three feet in front of her
Damn, all that money she earned from helping just for Artemis to tell her to give the money back.
>>283204090Delicious sailor feets
>>283204261Lucky Minako…
https://twitter.com/DanngoDaisuki/status/1980747302462713904Hisashi Kagawa's Venus artwork this work.
>>283204307Nice
>>283204307Oh, that one's great!
I don't want to cut off any discussion, but with the thread calming down a bit, I feel this might be the right time for a chapter dump.So, here we go: Chapter 1, once again.Enjoy, anons.
>>283204422I think I won't add any comments of my own to any of the pages, since I've commented on this chapter so often already.If anyone else wants a go, be my guest!
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Minako with Cherry Project's protagonist, Asuka, one of Naoko's other works.
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>>283204520Did you translate these pages?
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>>283204569>>283204561No. Scans and translations are from missdream.org
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>>283204584Too bad we never see her parents in the anime.
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>>283204673Yes, it's THAT page.Yes, the translation is accurate.
>>283204621No nipples shame.>>283204634What's going on with Naoko?>>283204643Who is he calling boss?
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>>283204710>>283204704>Who is he calling boss?That's the big question, isn't it? It's Luna.
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>>283204768And that's chapter 1.Let's see how the thread goes, I might post another one later.
>>283204710>>283204729I think you miss a page. Also how old are Luna and Artemis?
>>283204782How many books are there?
>>283204803>Also how old are Luna and Artemis?Generally I'd say they're adults, though in the Live Action Luna was specifically supposed to be the same age as the rest of the girls.But if you're looking for a number, uh, they're pretty fucking old since they weren't reincarnated, rather put in stasis by Queen Serenity.And the fall of the Silver Millennium happened during the mythological Golden Age of Man, almost 3 whole Yugas ago.
>>283204803>I think you miss a page.Nah, all of them there as far as I can see. Which one do you miss?
>>283204982The page where she kills him and she sees his true form.
>>283204834Depends on the edition. The original release (after the magazine, of course) was 3 tankoubon. Later releases all had it in just two, I think, included in a collection together with the Sailor Moon manga.Either way, it's 16 chapters.
>>283205004That's on 036.jpg (numbered 38 in print), the right side of that spread. The page count matches up:033 is labeled 35, then you get 36 and 37 (unlabeled), then 38.
>>283199865>>283200222After my time at the gym, I looked at a few of my older drawings this year and decided to scan them. Going to try and see if I can post my illustrations as an annual thing.
>>283205163Oops, was supposed to reply to >>283199930 there.
>>283205163Nicely done.
>>283205163That would be nice. You'd have milestones for your progress and we always get some nice artwork (and to watch you ... no pressure).
How would she feel about us and this thread?
>>283205305Mostly positive, I'd hope. She'd have a bit of an issue with the posters that are rude towards her, but feel appreciated by the rest of us.
>>283205305Excited that she, an aspiring Idol, already has so many fans.Slightly weirded out, but also pleased that she inspires such lust for her.
>>283205563Is it me or did she got the most good jokes then other characters?
>>283205635She definitely had the most comedic focus episodes. I think a particular strength of hers is that she can both be the jokester and the straight-man depending on the situation. She's also exceptionally witty and quick to come up with setups and/or punchlines, saying things that might be silly or ingenious or both at the same time.
>>283205635>>283205708She is usagi, but at the same time she is not. This makes her very powerful.
What she even look like in real life?
>>283206308Well, just like your average blond-haired blue-eyed Japanese girl. But a bit prettier. So basically exactly like she looks in the manga and anime.
>>283205563Wonder how the rest of her friends feel about it.
>>283206308you know that meme image of the pretty blonde girl working a drive-thru window? like that
>>283206367They don't need to know.
Since we discussed Ace before, and what Minako sees in him, I'll post chapter 10 next.Slight spoiler warning for new readers: You might want to skip this one for now and read the earlier chapters first.
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>>283206823Natsuna really is one of the most relatable characters, with all her fangirling over V.
>>283206823What is the dark agency?
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>>283206834How is she so popular and yet no one can identify her?
>>283206845>>283206841Kind of a branch of the Dark Kingdom, the evil guys from Sailor Moon's first season.But it's best not to overthink it here. Simply put, they're the antagonist organization.
>>283206866>>283206863>How is she so popular and yet no one can identify her?She's wearing a mask, anon.
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>>283206985And done.Quite a fun chapter, isn't it?
>>283205227>>283205211Also showing you my sketching/drawing process of this closeup practice I recently did. A few New Year resolutions I have for 2026 are drawing her as Sailor V and make some cel art of the character. I actually do have some blank cels lying around in my house. Also have one more artwork to post after before this thread gets archived/enters the bump limit or I go to work tomorrow.
>>283206486Why not?
>>283207092Well, I'll try to keep it around for a few more hours at least. Don't think it's hitting the bump limit too soon either. So, see you later, probably.
>>283207092Why sailor V?
>>283207117>Why not?Because it's our secret.
>>283207217>The cause of almost everything bad that happens after the dark kingdom arcErm ... can you elaborate on that?
I wish these two could have gotten a spin-off series together.
>>283207289Mimette gets annoying quickly though. Too bitchy.
Binged watched most of the original seriesTook a long break after S, I recall enjoying the S movie with the Ice Queen, is SuperS any good?Does every season/movie end with Usagi relying on the Silver Crystal and killing herself to win in the end, I was surprised with S and S Movie that she survived after using it for the final battle
>>283207319>is SuperS any good?SuperS and its qualities have already been discussed in this thread. How much you'll enjoy it depends on what you want from it. I'd generally advise you not to get hung up on the little things on a first watch either way. Most of it is a pretty straightforward continuation of what came before.
Do you guys use grok or chat gpt for role playing?
>>283207424No.
>>283207437Why not?
>>283207471Because AI is trash. Now let's talk about something more interesting, please.
>>283205163Good show; keep practicing and keep doing figure drawing studies, and hit the books.Also thanks for reminding me I haven't drawn Minako in like YEARS. Unfortunately I'm ass deep in university midterms so that's not happening anytime soon >:#
>>283207513What's the difference between her and Usagi?
>>283207547That's been discussed at length already. But to indulge you: One of their most pronounced differences is how they approach their duty as a senshi, respectively. You can compare Minako's approach in chapter 1 of Sailor V (posted above) with how Usagi deals with it in chapter 1 or episode 1 of Sailor Moon.
>>283191210She's a dyke anyhow
>>283207547They're both similar but Mina becomes a different person and bullshits her way with confidence when she transforms, Usagi is still Usagi no matter which form she takes.Otherwise they're nearly identical
>>283207602Minako loves the cock the most among the senshi
>>283207606>becomes a different personNo, not really. None of the girls really has a different personality depending on their costume.You could argue that they deal with high stress (battle) situations differently than they do with everyday stuff, and that is somewhat accurate. But it's also true (for all of them) that all the traits they display in their role as senshi can be frequently observed in their everyday lives as well.
>>283207621That would be Makoto. She likes them big too to compensate for her height.
>>283207699Do guys really not date her due to her height?
>>283207717Guys don't date her because she's still head over heels into her senpai (who wasn't ever more than a crush to begin with). You cannot ever live up to a perfect ideal of a person that only exists in a girl's head.
>>283207746>You cannot ever live up to a perfect ideal of a person that only exists in a girl's head.Yusaku Godai managed it. Mind you, it did take him literal years.
>>283207717No, I think this is only brought up twice and something she only tells herselfShe's too quick to think a guy is perfect and hype's them up more than they should beAlso the whole men aren't attracted to tall women is quickly thrown out when Haruka is introduced and revealed as a woman
>>283207786To be fair, everyone is attracted to Haruka.
>>283207717It's a Japanese thing
>>283207786She assumes the guys she likes have big dicks
Why did they change Ami from being a one-joke character in season 3, first 2 seasons all she cares about is studying but in season 3 she even makes jokes and gets pulled down to the other girls level and starts having more fun?I'm not complaining it's just weird they decide to make her do a 90 in personality, not a complete 180.
>>283208195it's supposed to show how she's coming out of her shell and being more extroverted due to Usagi's influence. The implication being, of course, that quiet and reserved geek girls are bad and need to be changed into normalfags.
>>283208195Exposure to normal people. And to Usagi. She's also a year older at that point. Priorities shift.
Do the transformations make them physically stronger, I noticed in some episodes they can kick and punch the enemies but in other episodes they completely rely on their power attacks, is this due to limited/reusing animation?
>Almost missed a Minako threadNO.
>>283208434mahoshojo typically makes them stronger only when transformed. the girls can jump entire buildings and in the manga can even fly when transformed, but not in their normal state. It's like Super Saiyan.
>>283191009Happy birthday, V.
>>283208434I don't believe there's conclusive evidence either way. Certain details do imply that they get stronger, to a super-human level even. Like jump heights and distances, at least if we take the anime's depictions literally.>in other episodes they completely rely on their power attacksThem prefering their special "magical" skills more frequently can be explained by the higher force, area impact and side effects those attacks have. Setting something on fire might be more effective than hitting it, even if the physical hit is very strong. Binding someone in chains is more versatile than a high-force kick. Electrocuting something can do more measured damage than a fatal blow. And bubbles ... yeah, okay, bubbles are just useless.
>>283191210You sound like a woman.
>>283192235The story presents her as a fucking goof who's mad that the only guys seemingly willing to dick her down are midbosses. And they don't even want to fuck her, just search her soul for a pedo pegasus.
>>283199865Congrats, anon!
>>283200147>/a/>consensusReifags bark the loudest, V and Moon get the most dedicated threads, Chibi-Usa and Mako get the most "I want to fuck this character" posts.
>>283192655>the show is for 9 year old girlsTry 4-5 year olds, same demographic as Precure’s target audience. And I think just like Precure you would be made fun of in Japan in the 90’s if you were over the age of 7 and still watching Sailor fucking Moon.
>>283209109good thing I don't give a fuck what people think
>>283195992>SuperS in particular was the season where the executives went all-in on pursuing the toddler audienceSuperS is actually arguably the darkest and most sexual season yet, besides everything this anon says here >>283196044 it’s the only season where the villains target the VOTD in a full on date rape scenario allegory. It also has the most fanservice and pedo pandering, with Chibiusa showing her bare naked chest to a blushing pervert Pegasus, the age-switch episode, and two episodes where the Amazon Trio outright target and hit on prepubescent kids Chibiusa’s age. The Quartet’s outfits are also pretty skeevy for girls who are only supposed to be a little older than Chibiusa.Even the whole Pegasus/Chibiusa plot was originally supposed to function as a more kid friendly proto Utena/Akio grooming situation until Ikuhara was forced to rein it in by both the Toei Suits and Naoko. It’s why Pegasus’s behavior seems so schizo throughout the season, and he genuinely comes across as creepy and predatory at times. The entire theme of SuperS is meant to be Puberty and sexual awakening and how to healthily deal with one’s burgeoning hormones as they’re growing up, all done under the child-friendly metaphorical veneer of “Dreams.”Fish-Eye also best girl (male), he’s vastly underrated for being one of the more nuanced and psychologically complex villains of the anime, he’s also the only villain who actually deserved their redemption and worked hard to achieve it and change themselves rather than simply being redeemed after Sailor Moon or one of the Senshi performs a talk no jutsu.
>>283209286It might be all of that but it's also the worst season.
>>283209490>but it's also the worst season.No that’s Stars.
>>283209683Close enough but redeems itself both with the ending and for being shorter. Admittedly though it's up there, most of it isn't really any better than the Chibiusa show.Anime series would have been perfect were it not for the last two seasons. If I'm ever going to rewatch, I will just stop after S.
I don't know why you mindbroken retards won't shut up about Rei when it's Minako's birthday. It seems that Sailor Mars' superiority really did a number on your psyche.>>283202767>>283202669>>283203411>>283202922What the fuck are you even talking about. STFU bunch of mindbroken idiots. You know nothing about Rei and all your dogshit arguments have been debunked in the past. I could BTFO you once more but this is a Minako thread and I have better things to do than educating casuals.>>283208906>Reifags bark the loudest. V and Moon get the most dedicated threadsFalse. What a lying cope. We have had the best threads this website has ever seen, and it's not even close. The day you get a thread half as good as this, you are allowed to talk. We are million years ahead... we are the intellectual elite of this fandom. And it wasn't even her birthday...https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/263738583/#263738583 Seriously, I don't even want to derail a Minako thread. You should stop seething about Rei and focus on your girl and shut the fuck up. As I said, I have better things to do than educating casuals. It's been a rainy day in my neighborhood Azabu-Juuban and me and my wife Rei Hino have plans for the evening, so I won't waste energy entertaining you.
>>283191009Best girl and should’ve been the main character, it could’ve been like a Rayearth situation where Usagi simply served as the figurehead Princess Minako and her team were supposed to protect I don’t know why Naoko was forced to replace her as the protagonist…Was Minako not marketable enough or something? Too unique and audacious (i.e. slutty and loud) for shoujo protagonist sensibilities? Usagi’s so bland and boring in comparison.
>>283191009I love her bros
>>283197213>Takeuchi and TOEI (and also Nakayoshi) also soured a bit on the business sideMore like Takeuchi and Ikuhara, and all because she was a seething yuritard who couldn’t stand the fact that based Ikuhara tried to pander to fujos and made some of her male villain designs gay (plus Mamoru bi)She’s trying to spite fujos again by attempting to convince Togashi to sink the cute and canon Gon/Killlua ship.
>>283191009When did you realize Madoka is just a bad rip-off of Sailor Moon and the Sailor Moon manga was the first actual deconstruction of the genre?Minako’s life alone is a goddamn tragedy!
>>283212161When will you realize deconstruction is a meaningless buzzword and claiming something is a SM ripoff means fuck all when nearly everything in mahoushojo released after SM uses the same or very similar format?
>>283211040>should’ve been the main characterWell, she was the main character of the better manga series.>Was Minako not marketable enough or something?Well, Minako was marketable enough to turn her own manga one-shot into a series and also kickstart a whole spinoff to Sailor V that continued for 5 years and even got an anime. The reason that spinoff got a different kind of sprotagonist has arguably more to do with relatability than marketability.
>>283212161As the other anon said, it's not a "deconstruction", going by the actual definition of that word.I'd go as far as to say that Madoka also is not a rip-off. While it does borrow some major elements from Sailor Moon and several other manga and anime of the genre (the cute "mascot" betraying the heroes had been done before and better in Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne, for example), it did have an overall unique plotline, which is enough to make it it's own thing. Otherwise you might as well say that Evangelion was a ripoff of Sailor Moon (and Mazinger and GUndam and several other things). Or accuse Sailor Moon or Sailor V being a ripoff of different things (like for example Cutie Honey).Now where you do have a point is that Madoka is often treated as some kind of outlier in how dark and brutal it is, and that sentiment is completely unwarranted if you do know the history of the genre.
>>283212387>Or accuse Sailor Moon or Sailor V being a ripoff of different thingsDidn't Takeuchi say explicitly it was her take on super sentai but with magical girls?
>>283212438No. I don't think so. She herself said precious little about her sources.Also, the Sentai elements only came into Sailor Moon (the team aspect) and mostly a collaborative effort with the early anime team. Sailor V is pretty much just the Cutie Honey formula played straight (straighter than Cutie Honey ever did it before CH Flash came out and took a good chuck of the - same but improved - Sailor Moon formula).Also, it stands to reason that the kind of "magical girl" the senshi are didn't exist before Sailor V. Up to that point "mahou shoujo" had generally been more about magical hijinks in everyday situations, not about fighting evil forces.
>>283207120>>283207542>>283208880Posting one more art practice before driving to my job today. Tried to do some "genga" type shading with the blue as the shaded parts and the red/yellow as highlights or coloring her ribbon. I'll talk to you guys later if I can after my shift.
>>283212986Thanks for posting!Have fun ... or at least as much fun as you can have working your job.
Is there any good fan fiction that stars her?
>>283213310No idea. Is there even any good fan fiction in general?
>>283212387>I'd go as far as to say that Madoka also is not a rip-off. While it does borrow some major elements from Sailor Moon Madoka is quite literally a beat for beat copy of the manga’s Stars arc in particular. Cosmos = Godoka, Chaos = Entropy.
Why do you guys like her?
>>283213320No, except for mine where I created a new sailor scout whose real name is Mary Sue, would you like to read it?
>>283213458But what's her sailor name?
>>283212223>>283212387>Not a deconstructionDeconstruction = applying realistic consequences to a common wish-fulfillment fantasy. Sailor Moon was the first of it’s kind to outright make being a Magical Girl (the wish fulfillment trope) into a bad thing, how doesn’t it apply?What do you consider a deconstruction then?
>>283213425That's a bit too simplified, anon. Yes, Madoka takes a lot of "inspiration" from stars, farticularly for the ending. But the characters as well as the actual plot beats are not the same. And frankly, I don't think it gets anywhere close to the thematic depth that Stars has, mainly because it tries to make a similar point but condenses it down to the bare minimum.
>>283213447Read the thread, anon.
>>283211130>watches Dollars trilogy
Is there a list of all the countries that she travel? Also I never understood why codename V didn't have an anime series.
>>283213615I'm somehow surprised they never tried to adapt it
>>283213520>Deconstruction = applying realistic consequences to a common wish-fulfillment fantasy.No. That's not what deconstruction means at all. That's a subversion.The term "deconstruction", as coined by Derrida, describes a process of taking a story apart into its most basic building blocks, analyizing said building blocks and then using the new information gained to rearrange the them into a new whole that contains some new knowledge about the thing you started with. It's a hermeneutic concept, i.e. something a reader does to gain understanding of a text.A text itself can be deconstructive if it itself uses means of deconstruction to push its reader to further engage in the process. Such works are rare and usually not very mainstream.
>>283213520Like the first post says, it's mostly used buzzword, there is no real meaning other than the poster trying to "elevate" a piece of work by claiming it's not like other girls because actually it's making fun of tropes or whatever.>>283213665And that's the literary definition but they are extremely rare. I don't think I can name one real example in anime.
>>283206367Rei would want to know how to get some of that attention herself.Mako would take a look and post on /ck/ and /an/.
>>283201574>cousinsReminder:
>>283213615>Is there a list of all the countries that she travel?We've had that before ITT.In Sailor V: Japan (duh), Greece, China.After Sailor V: England.In Sailor Moon: The Arctic (season 1 finale), the moon (kinda), future Crystal TokyoIn the "Another Story" game: Turkey. But technically anywhere in the world you take her (Nepal, Switzerland, Canada being the main destinations).
>>283207319>is SuperS any good?It's my favorite season, but I'm biased.If you can tolerate Chibi-Usa taking the spotlight, it's really fun.And one thing I like about it is that they manage to do a 100% Pacifist run, as far as non-MOTW's go.
>>283213811>as far as non-MOTWYeah, but that's a big exception you make there, considering this is may be the one season you can best make the argument for the "monsters" being mostly innocent people. Though season 1's youma and R's droids also can sustain the same argument. Hell, even S, where they are created just as cannon fodder, makes a good case for many of daimons being pretty nice gals.
>>283200147Forget Senshi, who is /a/‘s favorite villain? For me it’s Fish-Eye in the 90’s anime and bad-ass femdom Galaxia in the manga.
>>283213928Eudial overall, probably. Hot, fun, intelligent, has a bit of temper.Also, Thetis. Poor girl.For the other seasons: En ("Anne"), Berthier, JunJun, IronMouse.
>>283213729NO. Just no
>>283213928Big question there, as far the anime goes.S1 Beryl is kinda lame and so are half of the heavenly kings, that really only leaves Nephrite and Zoisite. I will give it to the former for having a cooler arc even if he isn't as entertaining as the latter.For R honestly everyone except Rubeus and Wiseman is a good answer but the correct one is either Koan or Berthier from ayakashi sisters. Black Lady was a great concept but unfortunately screwed up the execution on multiple points, could have been the best in the entire series.We all know what's the answer for S, obviously Eudial.SuperS not even worth mentioning here.Stars ironically enough is a toss up between Galaxia herself or the returning Nehellenia who somehow became much more batshit here than in her own series.If I have to pick only one then let it be Eudial for being such a massive threat(she nearly killed the outers and matched the inner senshis easily enough were it not for the deux ex machina) along with a good design and funny shenanigans all at once.
>>283200629>You bring out my desire for creationAmazing
>>283213700>trying to "elevate" a piece of work by claiming it's not like other girls because actually it's making fun of tropes or whatever.Madoka rendered the entire Magical Girl genre obsolete, that’s why barely any new ones are being made anymore because it went and exposed all the flaws of the genre.Wanting deconstructions/subversions over tropes being played straight isn’t being pretentious “not like other girls,” it’s preferring complex and nuanced story-telling instead of childish and naive wish-fulfillment slop that turns your brain to mush.
>>283214663Why does this guy keep falseflagging and forcing his samefag discussion?
>>283214663Dude, subverting tropes is not any more "complex" than playing them straight. It's just a storytelling choice. And, again, "deconstrcution" doesn't mean what you think it does. Stop using terminology you don't understand.
Reminder if Minako in past life didn't interfere with Beryl the moon kingdom wouldn't have fallen.
>>283214783>didn't interfere with BerylWTF are you even talking about?
>>283214663Subversion is exactly what pretentious pseuds think counts as "deep", in reality it's a cheap trick that preys on people who haven't ever interacted with a genre much but somehow think they have figured out what's all about. Bonus pseud points if it has a "dark and mature" atmosphere, so it can also be praised for reveling into it's own depravity as opposed to throwing in these elements in a more careful and meaningful way.
>>283214251>SuperS not even worth mentioning here.Fish-Eye and the Quartet are great though>Stars ironically enough is a toss up between Galaxia herself or the returning Nehellenia who somehow became much more batshit here than in her own series.Galaxia is better in the manga, Crow and Siren are who really stole the show in the villains department that season.
How about another short chapter.Another thing we've talked about here is Minako travelling, so ... chapter 7.
>>283214907So in other words, subversions only appeal to edgelords?
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>>283215157Close enough. Subversion isn't always edgy but tends to be.I prefer to use "pseuds" because the arguments in favor of that kind of writing often revolve around being more intellectually stimulating than "mature"(in the sense of having blood and sex).
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Muhdokafags are a true cancer.
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>>283215375>>283215364How about we stop repülying to them then? That guy's just trying to derail the thread.
>>283215409To be fair, Greece has a lot of nice things Hawaii doesn't have. From a Japanese perspective, wouldn't it be the more exotic culture?
>>283214808Didn't Beryl try to seduce the prince and past life Minako snitch on her that lead to a rebellion.
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>>283215590Chapter done.Let's try to keep the thread on-topic for the final stretch, shall we?
>>283215461Endymion rejecting Beryl is what led to the rebellion. Beryl letting herself get brainwashed by an ancient force of destruction and disorder is what led to her going scorched ear... erm ... scorched moon.
>>283215280>I prefer to use "pseuds" because the arguments in favor of that kind of writing often revolve around being more intellectually stimulating than "mature"(in the sense of having blood and sex).Mature also tends to be used for anything that has a dark and tragic tone, hence the equating of tropes being played straight with saccharine.
>>283215621Surprised that she doesn't get on a lot more.
>>283215409The guy forcing discussion isn't a Madokafag. He's falseflagging as one to force an argument because he hates Madoka.
>>283211130From what ova is this please
>>283215806SuperS.
>>283215409You realize the person trying to derail the thread doesn't even like magical girl shows right? it's not a madokafag posting that
>>283215907Not everything is a 4D chess conspiracy, some people simply like to shitpost and act insufferable for whatever reason.
>>283216017I've seen you post here many times before and I'm not a retard. I don't you don't like Madoka and you don't like Sailor Moon either. Fuck off.
>>283216090Meds
>>283216115Fuck off.
Whatever the guy trying to derail the thread is: Stop replying.These last 5 posts were a complete waste of space.
>>283211130I need a daughter
>>283215191What contest that allows a 13 year old to get beer? Also how tissue a prize
>>283216825>What contest that allows a 13 year old to get beer?A German brewery sponsored that one. No minimum drinking age in Germany.>Also how tissue a prizeClassic consolation prize. Because it can dry your tears. Get it?Also a nice throwaway product that you can print your logo on to advertise, if you are, say, a German brewery.
>>283215191>29 inch TVwow, that's impressive
Does the SM manga have any nudity?Is Minako more interesting in the SM manga than she is in the SM anime? I like her a lot but I feel she wasn't given a full enough personality in the anime like she does in Sailor V
>>283217666It was only an issue in the first season, latter seasons will let you see more of Minako's character.Anyway, as for the manga the answer is always no, the inner senshis don't get anything there.
>>283217666>Does the SM manga have any nudity?Kinda. It's not very explicit, but it exists to the same level as in Sailor V.>Is Minako more interesting in the SM manga than she is in the SM anime?General rule of thumb is that all the characters (except maybe for Usagi, Mamoru and Chibi-Usa) are less developed in the manga compared to the anime. It basically had to wrap up each story arc within a year (~12 chapters) where the anime had 40 episodes on average. That means there's much less slice-of-life, less comedy, and overall a much tighter story structure.Manga Minako does have a few highlights though, and in contrast to the Sailor V manga and most of the anime those highlights reveal a bit more about her leadership role and paint her in a somewhat tougher light. Generally speaking, those facettes of her personality can be found across the board (in Sailor V and the anime), but the Sailor Moon manga makes them a bit more obvious.>I feel she wasn't given a full enough personality in the animeIn that case I recommend the following episodes for a Minako-focused rewatch:33, 42 (important backstory).52, 65, 78 (very entertaining), 79.92, 100, 109, 114.133, 141, 154.175, 192.If you don't have that much time to invest, the digest version would be: 42, 52, 78, 100, 109, 141.
>>283208503If you were physically hit by a senshi, like a punch, would it penetrate right through you or would you explode into bits right on the spot due to sheer force?
>>283208503To be fair Mercury's bubbles were intended for support.But latter on she gains water attacks and they work as well as the rest.
>>283218216Unless you're standing against a wall, a great physical force would generally propell you in its direction rather than penetrate you. Imagine getting hit by a bus; you wouldn't just keep standing in place and get squished between the bus and the air behind you, would you?Now, of course, what kind of injuries such a force might cause to your body is a different question. And, if we assume the same force that lets the senshi jump 20 meters high coming at you, concentrated in a fist-sized impact point, you'd probably have many external and internal ruptures of different kind.
>>283217666>Is Minako more interesting in the SM manga than she is in the SM anime? I like her a lot but I feel she wasn't given a full enough personality in the anime like she does in Sailor VShe gets better from late R onwards and becomes more like her Sailor V self. The problem is that for most of Classic and early R she was kinda a blank slate and Toei didn’t know what to do with her because so few Sailor V chapters had been released and they didn’t have a good grasp on her personality, plus the fact they had already given her leader role to Ikuhara’s waifu Rei.
>>283218279>But latter on she gains water attacks and they work as well as the rest.Kinda fair. But by the time Ami gets her water splash and freezing bubbles attacks, those are already outmatched by Michiru's ability to unleash her "giant tsunami that completely submerges the enemy under tons of water" attack.
>>283217929>Anyway, as for the manga the answer is always no, the inner senshis don't get anything there.The Dream arc and the short stories anyone? Minako also gets her leader of the Inners status (plus her own sword and kill of Beryl) that’s lost in the anime.And if we’re counting Sailor V as part of the manga then she’s a better character than her anime counterpart all around.
>>283218446>she’s a better character than her anime counterpart all aroundShe's pretty much the same character, I'd say. Different aspects of her personality in focus, but over all she's incredibly consistent across media.As for counting the Sailor V manga, that works for Minako (and Artemis), but not for most of the other Inner Senshi, who besically only get one or two bonus chapters and the one SuperS focus chapter in the manga.
>>283218662Is it wrong that I want an episode where Minako flirts with Rei's dad?
>>283218662Cute and canon Reinako
>>283218727Why? We know practically nothing about Rei's father in the anime, and from the manga we only know that he's a carreer politician, rich and not really a caring father to Rei. I doubt he'd want to meet her friends, let alone get in a situation where one of them flirting with him could affect his public image.
>>283218077>General rule of thumb is that all the characters (except maybe for Usagi, Mamoru and Chibi-Usa) are less developed in the manga compared to the anime. Except Pluto, Saturn, and even some of the villains like Galaxia and Beryl.
>>283218819>canonAnon, please.
>>283218838Other than her obsession with Mamoru, manga Pluto doesn't really get that much development.Hotaru, well, depends. I'd say the Mugen arc in the anime handles her pretty well overall. Not any worse than the manga.Galaxia and Beryl I do grant you, but even most of the villains get much more attention in the anime.
>>283218833I'm pretty sure you can a handful of jokes.
>>283218342>sailor senshi are so strong one punch can send me fly most likely killing meThats cool, very cool
>>283191009I heard that she canonically rips ass as a special attack in her manga. Can anyone confirm?
The 90's anime did her dirty. Haven't seen the more recent one.
>>283219783Is the manga still going?>>283207513Need proof for that.
>>283219783The 90s anime took away some things, but it also added a lot.Crystal just took and never really gave anything to her.
>>283219846>Is the manga still going?Anon. The manga started in 1992. Why would it still be going? This isn't a money laundering operation like One Piece or Detective Conan the Barbarian. This one had an actual story that needed to conclude.
>>283219930The same reason that dragon ball is still going.
>>283218727You are mentally ill. Kys>>283218819It will never be canon you demented shipping tard. Now STFU already and don't make me BTFO you again.
>>283220077Dragon Ball at this point is a corpse being dragged around by publishers and studios.
>>283219846>Is the manga still going?How are retards like you not permabanned is beyond me, yikes
>>283220131Not wanting jokes and developed her character shame.>>283220189How you can't keep quite yikes.
>>283219930Takeuchi wanted to end it after the Beryl Saga.
>>283220234How many fucking thousands layers of casual you have to be to ask if the Sailor Moon manga is still ongoing? Zoomers are so braindead. Fucking kill yourself
>>283218819But their not lesbian nor bi.
>>283220458No, it's just a shitposter as usual.
>>283220181Dragon Ball ended at Cell anything after is cash grab trash.
>>283220131>It will never be canon you demented shipping tard.It already is according to both the manga and PGSM.
>>283220335>Takeuchi wanted to end it after the Beryl Saga.Well. That's as far as she had planned, originally. She originally wanted to kill the girls off. Osa-P talked her out of that. Then she wanted to kill off just Ami (the literal robot girl). Osa-P talked her out of that as well.Then TOEI killed off all the girls in the season 1 finale. She was miffed about that.
>>283220505>Osa-P talked her out of that.How?
>>283220458All the girls are at least bi and part of Usagi’s own personal harem by the end of the manga because Naoko is just a yuritard like that.
Well, that's it for this thread. Gotta be the fastest moving birthday thread Minako's ever had.But that's okay. Day's over in Japan. Not quite over over here yet, and far from over in the Americas. But it's okay.Thanks to everyone who participated, and thanks to Minako for being always being there for us!I'll post the few hand-drawn things I found on pixiv now. Didn't need a single one of them to bump the thread this year.See you around, everyone!
>>283220500No it's not you fucking retard. The only canon couple in the manga is Haruka and Michiru. Naoko had all the power to make others a couple if she wanted to buy SHE DIDN'T.And don't even get me started about PGSM... no one in this entire website knows PGSM better than me... I was just having a stroll at midnight around Hibiya park because it is Keiko-chan's favourite park in Tokyo.... so NO. There was nothing... be grateful this is a Minako birthday thread else I would have already destroyed you.
>>283220542>How?Editor super powers.But seriously: Don't underestimate a good editor. That guy talked Takeuchi out of some of her most insane ideas and was intrumental to the success of the whole franchise.
>>283220633Have a great day anon
>>283220633Well. You should thank the schizo who is 24/7 asking retarded basic questions instead of watching the series as he made like a hundred posts easily
>>283220716Go back to your ivory tower anon.
>>283220505my point was, she continued her series for money too. She wasn't uniquely principled amongst mangaka.
>>283220896Sure. But she also managed to stop at the proper point. Many mangaka do, of course. But that's exactly why you wouldn't generally expect one from 1992 to still be ongoing.
>>283220883Reminder that she still signal.
>>283221404Pretty sure she doesn't wear skimpy outfits.
>>283221431hush
See you next time.
Hey, look who's next to us in the catalogue on our way down!Kinda romantic, isn't it?Yoshihiro + Naoko forever!
What is her body measurement.
>>283222023Whoooo
>>283218371Ikuhara lost. I won. Rei Hino is my wife. Sailor Mars is my woman.
