We talk about shit tier MCs but how about for the worst of the worst secondary protags?I'll start with the most famous one. How did this character literally amount to fucking nothing? All those plotlines and development literally dropped and it only became worse for his reputation. This motherfucker cemented himself as the biggest loser in recent anime with no redemption
>>283231179>We talk about shit tier MCs but how about for the worst of the worst secondary protags?why? It doesn't sound like that'd be worth the effort
Bob in Tenjo TengeThey tease him becoming some ultimate fighter and the villain wants him to join his side and in the end he fights one girl, almost dies and never fights again
>Midjutsu Shartsen
>>283231324what's that? twenty more chapters of flashbacks about how amazing big bro is?
>>283231309Deuteragonist are often than not, more popular than the MCs. There's a standard for them. Bumgumi refuses to reach the bare minimum of what his role should be
>>283231344that doesn't answer my question
I think Megumi being weak despite his technique should've been an interesting thing to explore........if he had a compelling character, Gege just did not give a fuck about him the moment he was allowed to bring back Yuta into the story
Erina is hot but holy shit the moment the story focuses on her, it was so bad that it actually killed the manga
>>283231179Honestly I never saw him as the """ deuteragonist"". The reason most people projected that role on him is because jjk invoked the three men team trope like in Naruto and Megumi took the place of the Sasuke. And Sasuke was the clear deuteragonist of Naruto.That role of the second most important protag who has the informations the protag seeks is probably best attributed to Gojo, or even Sukuna, than Megumi. Megumi at the end of the day is at best an extension of Gojo, an minor ally for Yuji, or a sleeve for Sukuna.
>>283231179And Bakugo
>>283231179Calling Megumi a deuteragonist is a bit too kind.. That's always been GojoMegumi is just another one of Yuji's friends who has a bit too much screentime for someone with little significance
>>283231179>that screencapWhy did MAPPA draw this series so fucking gay
>>283232072Even for Yuji's friend, he's very underwhelming in that aspect. The one time they fought together, they have shit teamwork. Todo by all means should've been his best friend from the start. Megumi did jackshit in fulfilling that role too.
>>283231179I'm convinced if it wasn't for fujobait, he would've easily become the least popular character. It's quite literally the only thing carrying him
>>283231179>>283231979I honestly think Yuno is still the worst deuteragonist. People only like him because he's super strong but none can say for his actual character
Why do redditors hate Megumi so much?
>>283232372At least Yuno mattered in the story. Remove Megumi and the plot still goes the same in JJK.
>>283232372Yuno is inoffensive because he's barely even a character, he's a cardboard cutout performing functions that a "friendly rival"-type character is supposed to perform.I don't get angry at, dunno, Yuno getting an undeserved powerup or something because my brain perceives it as author just lifting the cardboard cutout and placing it in a position that he believes it should be in at a given point in a story.
>>283231179He is so bad all the cool shit from nine shadows were pulled off by Sukuna instead of him.
>>283231179Honestly, I don't think we'll ever get a worse deuteragonist than Megumi. he is that bad. Powerlevel, he is laughably too weak despite having one of the best CTsCharacter development? He's still the sameCharacter interactions? Does he have any? He's supposed to be close to Gojo but he didn't give a shit about him dying Story impact? He made everything worse for everyone.
>>283232372Nobody really likes Yuno, that's why he's even worse than Megumi and Bakugo. Yeah, Megumi counted as much as pissing in the ocean and Bakugo has some of the worst writing ever seen in shonen, but at least they managed to be very popular in their stories
>>283232372Yuno is still the worst for me because he's not even popular. Megumi and Bakugou won polls and even Megumi still placed top 3 despite the constant shitting on his character during the height of Shinjuku
>>283232620He also ended up in perfect condition at the end, when he should’ve ended up in a vegetative state at least.
>>283232656Yeah.......About the brain damage......
>>283232650"Hey! Yuno placed 3rd one time (out of 6 popularity polls)! It counts!"
>>283232656Oh don't worry, he learned a binding vow to transfer his brain damage onto Yuka
>>283232372You know what's the catch? Yuno is Tabata's favorite character. I can understand what happened to Megumi since Gege definitely hated the Naruto bootlegs
>>283232837Is he? He apparently should have died in the 7th chapter, but the editor convinced Tabata to keep him. Maybe he's now become Tabata's favorite character or his editor's. Regardless, I can't really understand why they are pushing Yuno so much. He doesn't sell, he's not that popuar and far more popular characters are there being wasted. It's not like Yuno is even that important to the story, fuck Megumi was far more important than him
>>283232974Yuno is basically what Megumi is if he actually delivered on his potentialAnd yet for some reason, he's hardly what I call popular. Everyone shits on Megumi being Potential Man and Bum but he still has legions of fans. Yuno got none
>>283233030I think they are both emblematic of what not to do with a rival character. Kicking the rival down too much results in Megumi, while focusing on a shitton of power-ups results in Yuno. But the real reason Yuno is not popular is the lack of fujobait. Not even fujos found him appealing
>>283231179Yuno
>>283232470Without Mahoraga Sukuna doesn't win against Gojo
>>283233030>>283233075I call them inverses of eachother. Megumi is still very popular but he is too much of a fucking loser in terms of everything. Yuno is vastly unpopular even though he's the de facto chad of his manga.
>>283233075Megumi is not even a rival. He has no ambition to be one.
>>283231783"Rivalries" between men and women in the sportsmanship sense is just stupid and impossible to take seriously.
>>283233122I think to a certain degree people like Megumi BECAUSE they feel bad for how the story treats him
>>283233122From what I believe Megumi struck a hard nerve to a lot of people because he's the most realistic "gifted child" going through the reality of the world. He sucks as a sorcerer even though he was given the best possible setup. most people talk about how great he is but he clearly isn't. This resulted in the immense hate (or love) for the character
>>283233122>>283233149>>283233187I like him more than Yuta if it's any consideration. Yuta just doesn't suffer and even gets heavily rewarded. Meanwhile, Yuji doesn't seem to have any legacy other than being the strong guy
>>283233347Desu most people over 12 dislike Yuta and how shoved down the reader's throat he is so it's not really an achievement.
>>283232425This is the love interest
>>283231783The kicker for me is that Erina threw all her character development right after Central Arc when it's time for her mom to be the main villain
>>283233419Her and Asahi singlehandedly killed the manga for reals
What is this called
>>283232974Sasuke was Kishimoto's favorite and he was invented by the editor.
ITT: Nobody knows what a Deuteragonist is
>>283233861The yaoi bait
>>283233419>>283233834>>283231783Erina's two arcs were awful but the real nail in the coffin was the cooking advisor leaving for pregnancy and the Soma duo had no idea on cooking so they came up with chainsaw cooking
>>283233910>Yaoi bait>YunoTo whom? No fujos like Asta
>>283231179He's definitely the most pathetic one, for sure. Yuji quickly overpowered him in abilities and all he could do most of the time is just black flash. And he spent the entire last arc just doing nothing
>>283233879He was not invented by the editor you stupid twat. His editor suggested a rival. Sasuke and Sakura are still Kishimoto's creations.
>>283233075Megumi is not even a rival at all. In fact, Yuji never feels that way towards him either. They want to keep each other alive.
>>283233910Only 2 of them attracted fujos though
Hakuri has become a permanent plot device that either makes things worse or ends up useless despite the narrative stating that he is super important and everything depends on him.
>>283235498KGB has no deuteroganist.Or MC for that matter.
>>283236048Or a heroine for that matter
>>283233861Inferior to silver hair.
>>283231979Why does he bully asta , considering their history his personality doesn't fit
>>283236683He wants to be Asta's rivalThat's basically his character and nothing else
>>283236683They have a friendly rivalry and Yuno is not really a character, so his writing doesn't allow for deeper meaning behind his actions other than being Asta's rival. Bullying would require him to have some depth
>>283235419The moniker doesn't neccessitate success
>>283231179At least Yuno got some actual enemies to fight against. Bakugou, despite being held off from fighting villains at least fought Deku and Todoroki. What was the most significant opponent this dude get? Literal fodder curses?
>>283237816He fought AFO anon. Hori had Bakugo's dick in his mouth the whole time
>>283238167>>283237816Gatta give it to Bakugou. Everyone seems to love him(he genuinely entertaining to watch) in universe or in real life.
>>283231179I find Megumi's case really tragic because all it took was one meme picture to literally damage his entire reputation. He became the laughing stock of anime. Even until now, he is still getting immense hate despite not appearing in the sequel. His reputation is really that bad I wouldn't wish to be a Megumi fan onto my worst enemies.
>>283238340Can you blame his reputation when Gege never allowed him to have one cool scene? Mahoraga is supposed to be cool but it's basically made to mock Megumi that he never bothers to use anything else when he's backed to a corner which is like every fight he's been In. Nobara, a character who was "dead" for half the manga contributed more to the overall story than the literal deuteroganist who was kept around for 100 more chapters after Shibuya
>>283231979>>283232372I always saw Noelle as the deuteragonist, not Yuno.Yuno is the straight man who's friends with protagonist and very strong in his own right.
>>283238282In universe doesn't make sense and in reality it does since ~75% of MHA fans are young womenThough, I have to admit, his writing is so awful it is kinda entertaining to witness. It's like those videos of kids doing dumb stuff and crying afterwards
>>283238340Megumi got hit with nothing but shit>JJK becoming super popular with hoodweebz and sports fans so anyone who isn't top tier are deemed garbage >JJK thrives on hype and aura moments so a character who isn't that are also deemed garbage. >Potential Man gaining immense traction and it keeps on becoming true until the meme became a fact>His role was replaced by essentially everyone. Yuji took his MC role, Gojo took his deuteroganist role, Yuta took his emo prodigy role. He's not even the strongest Zenin or Fushiguro. Not even top 5 among the Jujutsu students too. >Quite literally the biggest loser in JJK. Only family dead, Gojo dead, main villain used your own technique better, giving up when everyone is risking their lives to save you, lost all of his shikigami, and ended the manga being literally the same person as he was>Sequel did not mention him but that didn't stop his haters from finding new ways to hate him. Grade 3 Curse Spirit. Nuff said I would be so surprised if this miserable Faggot still has fans. Because why was Gege keeping this character for
>>283238511Noelle hasn't been relevant for 1/3 of the manga at this point
>>283238658Well, Gojo was wrong about everything and failed at everything and he was the one who said Megumi had great potential, so...
>>283238658I don't get why Gege kept him around either. If he was just going to be Sukuna's power up then he should've just shafted Megumi to the sidelines early in instead of making fans hope he was gonna amount to something. I was informed he has the second most panels in the manga. ALL THOSE PANELS FOR WHAT?!
>>283231179He's a subversion, an example of how talent and power doesn't matter if you lack the mentality to back it up. Which is supposed to contrast which other characters like Gojo or Kashimo. Not defending it though, it's still a dogshit subversion that reminds me of the average western shit writing. The biggest problem is Gege designing a 10/10 ability like Ten Shadows and then deciding it would be given to the character that does fuck all. If the point was for Megumi to never live up to his potential, he should've been given a generic power that wouldn't immensely disappoint everyone if it was wasted.
>>283238843Then his plotline wouldn't make sense. The point is that he is wasting such an overtly OP ability that Sukuna just said "Fuck it. I'm gonna hijack this kid to show what this technique can really do" If he was given something simpler, then Sukuna wouldn't have a reason to hijack him. I won't defend him being a bum in Shinjuku though. That was legitimately awful writing
>>283231179You only get disappointed with Megumi when you only care about wins and powerscale, he fulfills his role in the story well enough.
>>283238843>>283238928My problem is that Gege waited until Sukuna took over his body for the technique to finally look like it had the potential to surpass Limitless. Megumi looked weak because he can't be assed to use his technique creatively and just resorted to Mahoraga whenever he's losing a battle. And he had this technique way longer than Sukuna
>>283238928You could've just given him Mahoraga's Adaptation as his sole ability and it would've worked, especially since the main narrative reason Sukuna takes TS is to use Adaptation on Gojo. The appeal of TS anyways was all the different shikigami and how they could be combined along with the "swamp" they were summoned from. If that seems too mediocre to justify Sukuna taking interest, then give him Mahoraga too as his sole shikigami so it seems more like an OP technique.
>>283239052He's not even good as a character either. Bum is just a boring asshole to everyone. Including Yuji. If they're supposed to be a duo, then they might be the worst one all because of Megumi alone. He is so fucking bad that he makes everything worse by just being involved in it
>>283233075Yuno is the straightman rival and has pretty much nothing else going on outside of that. He's basically only there to get handed buffs so Asta is pushed to try harder. Megumi is a desperate jobber who's initially a reluctant friend to the protagonist before warming up a bit, even if he gets clowned on after the beginning, he at least has SOME character behind him.
>>283231922Speaking of Sasuke, is it even worth talking about how retarded running off with the snake pedo just because he was assblasted about Naruto having a technique that looked more impressive on an immobile object but in practice was less lethal than what Kakashi taught him?
>>283239702It's canon that Uchihas get retarded when emotional
>>283231179He might potentially be the worst anime character in recent history. Somehow surpassing Deku and even Sakura. Every role he could've fulfilled. He somehow flops at about everything
>>283240263He's good at being a massive disappointment.
The best deutaragonists would include L from Death Note,Suzaku from Code Geass and Sasuke and Killua
>>283238511Noelle is also missing for the super important part though?
>>283231179JJK barely has characters, I don't see why anyone would love/hate a particular one. It's a short manga with a lot of characters, I can describe the major ones in a single sentence, and the minor ones I can't describe at all.
>>283239702Disagree, it was completely justified. He ran off because Leaf did jackshit about capturing and punishing his family's butcher for fucking years. The breaking point was Itachi showing up, dabbing on him and then fucking off again with Leaf being completely inept.
