I don't get it. Why is this so popular? Show teases an interesting story only to ignore it for long periods with 'bounty of the week' episodes which are hit or miss. I love the cast, but it feels like we barely scratched the surface.
>>283255118You just wouldn't get it
>>283255118>where's the DEEP LOREkill yourself if this isn't bait, or if it is bait.
>>283255118>outing himself as a low iq faggot
>>283255118You're just mad it doesn't have any girls you consider to be your "waifu". Maybe Outlaw Star is more your speed.
>>283255118Seeing people get filtered by episodic storytelling will never fail to make me laugh.
>>283255164Eh, I get it I guess. It's just way more of a standard for a show to have an overarching story between episodes. Not that they don't do episodic shows anymore, of course they do but I would figure a lot of kids here grew up in the era when TV-shows began to make their shows less episodic in storytelling.
>>283255164there isn't anything to get filtered over. I grew up on Pokemon, Beyblade and sitcoms etc, I have nothing against episodic storytelling.
>>283255118all watanabe garbage is the same, hope you learned your lesson
>>283255385It was okay, could have been better but it was not garbage.
>>283255118Cowboy Bebop walked so Samurai Champloo could run.
>>283255118Good music. It’s 90s vibes are unparalleled. Feels like a cigarette on a Saturday evening walk downtown.
>>283255118>filtered by cowboy bebop
>>283255759OP should just give up. Anime is not for him.
>>283255714>>283255118both as mid"lets make an anime out of filler episodes"
Ignoring OP because he's a fag, it's interesting how the rise of streaming and content binging has made linear, serializations so total in viewers' minds. It's not even just disliking self-contained episodes as filler; it's as if their minds cannot even comprehend non-linear narratives.Compare it to the necessities of TV syndication, where self-contained episode narratives were the norm, since you never knew when a prospective watcher was going to jump in.
>>283255793yeah yeah I watched this shit ages ago its an incoherent mess and your cope just shows ityou can like it for its aesthetically pleasing animation and spike but anything else is just cope
>>283255118>I don't get it.yeah we know, you're an idiotalso a faggotkill yourself>>283255793>the rise of streaming and content binging has made linear, serializations so total in viewers' mindsthey are literally retards with addled brainsthey are no different from tiktok zoomers with short-form internet content induced ADHD brains with holes in themlike this fag here, subhuman >>283255806
>>283255806I'm not sure if I should tell you to try harder or stop trying. Either way, you're embarrassing both of us.
Zoomer cannot comprehend the art of episodic storytelling. It's much harder to craft an interesting, memorable, well rounded, satisfying plot in 20 minutes than yet another serialized Netflix slop storyline that drags you along for hours of cliché and filler just to justify its runtime.
>>283255964Zoomers are a sickening species.
>>283255964I’m a zoomer (98) and it was the first anime I watched.
>>283255964Zoomers are fairly unique animals
>>283255882>no argument
>>283255118I remember my uncle was saying this is shit
>>283255964they'd rather watch abridged youtube edits at 2x speed anyway
>>283256331they probably pay for premium to do 4x now
>>283255118>no mention of art, music, animation, direction>'uhhh where is the lore???'Fucking hell OP
>/a/ now like Cowboy BebopWhat happened? I thought we all agreed it's a normalfag anime for Toonami plebs who don't like anime.
>>283256682just read this threadboomers accusing boomers of being adhd zoomers because if every other episode feels like a random filler episode, it's your fault
>>283255793Always fun to watch an old show and have to figure out if you should watch it in production order, broadcast order, or some other order fans made up.
>>283256749I just do reverse order.
>>283255118Its one of my favorites of all time, but you need to understand that it was one of the few selected and watched over and over again on TV twenty years ago. To a lot of us who didn't have the internet or streaming it was something we've never seen before. Learn more about the era and context a work is from rather then just try to go "WHY THING LIKED AND POPULAR?"
>>283256759Reverse of the production order or the broadcast order?
>>283256791Production order.
>>283256682Cowboy Bebop still has a lot of merit and has aged very well. Especially if you like different Genres of Cinema like Noir or Western. Its fun to enjoy as a Kid and great to fully understand and contemplate as an adult.
>>283256802Well, either way you're starting Star Trek on Turnabout Intruder.
>>283256426>art, music, animation, directionI thought I shouldn't state the obvious. It is a 90s Sunrise show scored by Kanno, of course it's stellar.
>>283256749>>283256791Always just assume broadcast order in most cases unless its Gun Grave.
>>283255118it was about the journey, not the non-story.Hence why our protagonist isn't really in a rush until the very end.
>>283257113>really isn't in a N.Y Rush until the very endYou had one job
>>283257015Then you already know why it's popular; it's a show that manages to blend all those things into a very nice cohesive whole.
See you space cowboy
>>283255964I always wonder if the people who are unable to recognize subtext in TV shows and movies also struggle with object permanence.>>283256682The anime was never seriously disliked but when someone says Cowboy Bebop is their favorite anime it raises a lot of red flags.>>283256749I determine what date and time each episode takes place and try to watch it in real time. Makes episodes with flashbacks a scheduling nightmare though.
How's the movie?
>>283258389it's great, some great original music tracks, has a good bounty and bounty target, god tier animation and choreography throughout, we get faye rape fanservice, it's a standard bounty bumped up to movie tier stakes but all feels appropriate in tone and thematics for the series
>>283257611See you space samurai
>>283256682The problem is normalfags fellating the show so much that they elevate it above the entire medium as if it is the only thing worth watching. Cowboy Bebop still is a really fucking good show though
>>283255164>episodic storytellingdeboonked by aristotle
>>283255793I've noticed this with Paranoia Agent, especially. The number one complaint I see about it from the modern generation is that they think the story was shit. They don't really comprehend that the stand-alone plots ARE the show and the story is just a thread to thematically connect them.
>>283260037I don't remember much of PA, except for suicide club episode, schizo whore teacher and rushed bs ending.
>>283255118It gets you attached to the characters (and them to each other) before they slowly go their separate ways and leave a hole in your heart.
mogged by season one lupin, show is popular because of toonami and nothing more, for non anglo yoroopians it just doesnt have the emotional value that it does for ppl across the pond
>>283260695>a love letter to Americana like jazz and the wild west frontier mentality has no appeal to yoorofagsYeah no shit a fucking jazz infused western has middling appeal to the faggot cowards who would rather stay in Europe to be ruled over by kings than live and die rustling and hustling and expanding into the boundless [space] of the new world frontier. You pussies never went to the moon either.
>>283260833Weird crash out, lmao are all mutts this insecure?
>>283260894I'm not crashing out at all, I'm literally just emphatically stating the obvious man. I'm perfectly calm.
>>283260833>i heckin' LOVE the RUSTLING and HUSTLING of the frontier
>>283255118zoomers shouldn't be allowed to watch anything prior to 2010
>>283255118This show would've been better without Faye and Ed.
>>283255118Only thing I didn't like was the ending. Everyone is just written out just so they can kill off spike.
>>283261543Faye is the best character with the saddest most emotionally resonant and beautiful moment in the entire show.
>>283261699I didn't feel anything for that filler episode.Just wanted more stuff with Spike and the Red Dragon Syndicate.
>>283255118Because Spike is shit and dies at the end
>>283261774there are no filler episodes, zoomer mutt retardbecause you're a gay retard nigger with 70 IQ
>>283261867LmaoStop seething over Chinese cartoons.
>>283259551Oh I see, this is some stupid new meme going around.
>>283261774How can you say the payoff to Faye's entire deal as a character is filler. Like, nigga what the fuck.
>>283255118mass appealing. its one of the few anime you can show other normies and they wont think youre weird for liking anime. its really just that simple
>>283260833nta, I hate jazz and even I thought that music was really good most of the run (except for that shitty opening, RFB should have been the opening).
>>283263296I don't agree at all, whether you hate jazz or love jazz Real Folk Blues is a 100% ED material song.
>>283263416It fits the show too perfectly to not be an opening, but it's still a great ED.
>>283259259see you space dandy
>>283264346I haven't seen SD yet, do they use that line at end card?
Is good and people that dont like anime can enjoy it
>>283261543>without EdAgreed. She's the worst character Watanabe has ever made.
>>283261867>there are no filler episodes>Toys in the Attic
>>283269195I don't like Toys in the Attic but it's not a filler episode.
>>283255118>Why is this so popular?Never was
>>283269329True, Samurai Champloo was the popular one
>>283268112
>>283269906>Ed, but fat and even more annoying
>>283269195that's one of best episodes other then perriot le fou episode
Show is 9/10 if you ignore the Julia shit and close your eyes whenever she is on screen.
>I dont get itOf course you dont
It teased an interesting world people wanted to explore more.Much better than Watanabe's boring modern shitshows like C&T or whatever the fuck the last one was (didn't even watch know it would just be more trash Netflix writers wrote and paid to put his name on)
>>283261543stfu, Faye is literally the best character and Ed is cute too.
>>283273607You need to get better choices in waifus than a boring hoe.
>>283255164Outing yourself as someone who prefers short chunks of dopamine’s bursts is not a flex
>>283273607Ed is retarded, get some taste
>>283256682We literally grew up on Toonami. I've had every minute of Bebop and GITS burned into my brain from having them on in the background each week.
>>283255207>It's just way more of a standard for a show to have an overarching story between episodesMaybe that's the expectation now.But that has nothing to do with Cowboy Bebop.It's the difference between a novel and a collection of short stories.You want everything to be a novel, where every episode is a chapter of the full story.When tv used to be short stories.
The "interesting story" is the worst part of the show, it could have been a solid 9/10 but the terrible ending retroactively ruins the great episodes
>>283255118Sure it could have been more but that wasn't the plan of the creators. The show did what good art does, captures a sensation, a vibe, a flavor. Don't be so negative and call it overrated or whatever.
>>283273918retarded girls are the best.
>>283257902>when someone says Cowboy Bebop is their favorite anime it raises a lot of red flags.About what? Its not like you are going to hang out with a cowboy bebop lover from this site so why care?
>>283276015>Its not like you are going to hang outno, but you are going to discuss anime online.
>>283255118Because people like (You) won't shut the fuck up about why it's so popular.
>>283276492And?
>>283257902>when someone says Cowboy Bebop is their favorite anime it raises a lot of red flags.The reason why girls dont like you is due to you being a contrarian who is not able to create your own opinions. Just so you know, the next time you get rejected.
>>283268112>Call me, call me....>Let me know its alright.....
>>283278947>silently, voraciously eating eggs to swallow their sadness>they have way too many because their crew is cut in half
>>283279039Extreme kino alert
>>283274915I wish they showed at least some of their background. Just an episode or even an extended flashback of Vicious and Spike fighting side by side, the one where he gets ambushed and 'dies' the first time or Injured Spike getting healed by Julia. It would have gone a long way into developing their dynamic and making the ending hit.
>>283271886And if eyes are open when Julia is on screen?
>>283280262spray red eye.
>>283280923ok
>>283279998Its hinted at and subtly implied. A full on episode or flash back arc would be far too much. You get the idea especially if you watch the series multiple times. Which is honestly what you are intended to do.
>>283278866it's thresome to discuss things with somebody who has contempt and ignorance regarding the medium.
>>283282715tiresome*
>>283282715Well It took you nearly 6 hours but I'm glad you got there. Ignoring the person you don't want to talk with is a start. Also if someone says something the makes you cringe don't bother with replying most of the time because its unlikely they will probably reply back. Living with people who have different opinions is also one way of going about things but this is 4chan so you do you.
>>283255118I'm watching it for the first time because it's one of the universally acclaimed shows I completely missed years ago. Will any future episode get any more stupid than an immortal unkillable kid who murders random people for no reason, and can only be hurt with a magic bullet?
>>283255118It's full of MKULTRA Monarch trigger phrases and symbolism.
>>283284735Had to rescure it from page 10 first.
>>283284766The whole SCRATCH episode. It combined with Ergo Proxy became the 2020 movie "The Empty Man".Here we see shatter / mirror break symbolism combined with moon splitting. Common up till ~2010. Evangelion flashed it for 1 frame using Rei as a symbol substitution. Etc.
>>283284817
>>283284817Purple = 88, Green = 49. 88 + 49 = 137, 33rd prime. She wears gold and red.
>>283255164Not necessarily. I didn't enjoy the episodic nature of Bebop, but I did do in Violet Evergarden.
>>283255118OP, I'm there with you. it has some good ideas, but ruined by all the filler episodes. Bebop is babby's first "stylistic" anime and everyone worships it for that.
The one thing I'll hate about this show (and its got nothing to do with its quality) is how people still spread the lie that it was a failure in Japan.
>>283282925Most are fine, there is one dumb mushroom episode.at least the woman in there is hot.
>>283261774Same.
>>283261812>Spike is cool and dies at the end. Which is cool.ftfy
>>28328026214/10
>>283286508or that watanabe prefers the dub.
>>283286541Guess who wrote Mushroom Samba, lol.
>>283289777watanabe also wrote that feng shui episode, it was nice.
>>283255118Use your eyes and ears, and find out.
>>283255118>Why is this so popular?GroomingOld weaboos liked it and forced the younger generations to like it too or be considered posers.It's the same with Star Wars, KOTORA holy cow that you can't criticize or ignore.It's not bad by any means, just overrated like Tarantino's movies
>>283282925Toys in the Attic was pretty stupid. Kid just eats the monster and the episode is over.
>>283255118It's loved by boomers who watched it on Adult Swim. They don't like anime.
>>283255118It’s one of the few anime free of incest pedo diddy ahh shit, that’s why it’s popular.
>>283271886>9/10 even without its best elements and iconic main plothigh praise
>>283290886Isn't that one considered one of the weakest episodes of the entire show?
>>283294408It is considered the weakest.
>>283294226Incorrect.
I'd like to be as cool as Jet when I'm 40
>>283284919
>>283255118>"The thing you liked when you were young actually sucked the whole time."I hate nu /a/ so much.
>>283256682>What happened? I thought we all agreed it's a normalfag anime for Toonami plebs who don't like anime.I don't know what you're talking about, most people on this board use to like Cowboy Bebop. It's only in the 2020s when /pol/fags invaded the board & started hating on anything "Western influenced" that this series started getting shat on.
>>283295407It is not uncommon that the things we liked as kids weren't actually good.
>>283255164The only thing laughable here is enjoying awful episodic storytelling
>>283298004>He can't enjoy episodic story tellingLol, genuinely embarrassing
>>283255118The main story is the least interesting thing about the showSpike is a jackass who stole his friend's whoreThe show is liked because of the style, music, concepts, voice acting and shitThe episodes can be hit or miss, but when it hits it fucking hitsThe Pierrot Le Fou episode is very memorable for one, remember being so creeped out by it
>>283285037First? What other anime has style comparable to Cowboy Bebop?
>>283255118Babby's first anime for most americans
>>283300288Lupin III, especially Part I, has a lot in common with it. Watanabe even admitted that Spike was based off of Lupin.
>>283255289Beyblade has a continuing storyline, it wasn't episodicBebop is closer to Batman TAS where episodes are self-contained + some small main story BTW OG Beyblade is still the most autisitic anime/manga ever madehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1000&v=aRCMHAHYK1w
Feels very artificial around here, future of the net ain't looking so bright.
>>283295481Those are the kinds of people who love Cowboy Bebop. They hate moe stuff, and always have. Just look at how much they hate Onimai.
>>283300097t. incel
>>283260695Apples and OrangesOf course Lupin and co. mog the Bebop crew big timeBut Bebop's appeal for me isn't even the charactersIt's what happens around them and the world around them; the concept of a future that is essentially the wild west that somehow co-exists with advanced technologyBebop's melancholical view of the future is a gritty but ultimately comforting one because it's based on Watanabe's love for 20th Century European/American Cinema and Music(you are wrong about the non-Anglo European part too since some of the episodes are literally based on French New Wave Cinema), so in that sense Bebop is an ultimate sort of tribute to the pop culture of 20th century(particularly the 1920s to the 1960s/70s) and that includes Asian pop culture like Bruce Lee too + the guy on whom Spike's character design was based on was Japanese actor Yusaku Matsuda(who also was featured on a Hollywood movie before he died young) let's not forget that and I think that's what most people find unique and appealing about BebopBebop is not just an anime, it's a tribute to a different time periodIn a sense it's the anti-Blade RunnerWhereas Blade Runner warns us how bad the future will be; Bebop instead at comforting us(and I guess Watanabe) by throwing a blanket at us by taking us into a nostalgic vision of the future where the future somehow resembles the past
>>283263962WrongRFB is only about Spike/Julia/ViciousTank fits better as the OP
>>283284766>virus mixing system>missing any word starting with CHmmmmmm
>>283300369>Watanabe even admitted that Spike was based off of Lupin.Bullshit. He said he was based on Yusaku Matsuda.Vicious was obviously inspired by Goemon but that's a different thing.And obviously Bebop was inspired by Lupin the 3rd but it's something very different nonetheless.Lupin at his cuckiest is never such a simp like Spike.And at his Chaddest he is literally a criminal rapist in the original manga but Miyazaki kiddified it for TV.
>>283300953It's funny to think that the guns in Bebop are guns that would be almost 100 years old in terms of their designs by 2071
>>283301192Shit figureHis hair looks like Deku's and her hair looks too saturated
>>283301306Tbf do you think we will have more advanced guns than the ones in Bebop in 2071?With how slow tech is evolving I doubt we'll have something like Star Wars-style Blasters in 2071
>>283301192Stunning.
>>283301507Anon, if the 1911 is still relevant after 110+ yearsBelieve me, it'll be 2071 and the 92FS, Glock 17, and the S&W revolvers will still be used and made
>>283301639Let's be honest here; the difference between a Blaster and a conventional handgun is much bigger than the one between the 1911 and and the JerichoIf Blasters ever happen then the traditional handgun will go the way of the sword
>>283289962>No Asteroid Bluesshit list>listing ameridub airdate instead of OG JP release datecringe site
>>283256682>I thought we all agreedThis is 4chan, retard. No one here will even find consensus on literally anything.
>>283301946I highly doubt we'll see the technology unless we run into an IRL Covenant
>>283255118What if, like, episodes were made to be enjoyed as is
>>283301239Spike and Julia "simped" for each other equally. Back in the day we called it being in love.
>>283303383>we called it being in lovesuch gayshit
>>283257902>when someone says Cowboy Bebop is their favorite anime it raises a lot of red flags.Oh, really? Someone saying that a space western anime that was widely beloved and aired on mainstream networks is their favourite is "a red flag." It's only the second anime most people watch after Pokemon (Akira is the third.) What weirdos those people must be.Pro tip: If someone's asking for your favourite anime, they're an otaku, and telling an Otaku you liked cowboy bebop is like telling a sci-fi nerd you liked star wars. Indicative of having surface-level experience with the medium, maybe, but hardly a red flag in the same way telling someone you're a lolicon would be.
Cowboy Bebop was the first "anime" I actually completely watched. I remember waking up to the episode parodying Heaven's Gate on Adult Swim early in the morning, it still sits in the back of my head.It's amazing and it's dub is one of the few examples where it's better than the original.
>>283304356this is why we can't discuss cowboy bebop on /a/ and why faggots like the OP existsbecause of retards like yourself who are living stereotypes and clichesthe dub is not better than the original, fucking kill yourself you stupid nigger
>>283301239I think Spike is really just an amalgamation of guys Watanabe thought was cool and that includes Lupin and Yusaku Matsuda.Also, now is as good a time as any to mention that the first five episodes of Tantei Monogatari are fansubbed. It's a really good show, no longer Japanese boomers were obsessed with it.
>>283301306it's retrofuturism.
The main plot is the worst part of Bebop. The episodic stories are vastly superior.
>>283292065Why do zoomers have the most retarded self-victimized takes? Cowboy bebop has been called overrated for years.
>>283289962Like other anon said, first episode should be here, if only for their fight/chase scene with NY Rush playing. Shit list.
>>283307345It's based on the rating each episode got. If you're mad, go rate episode one higher.
>>283255118Americans
>>283255118>Why is this so popular?>I love the castThere's your answer.
>>283308128>if you're mad, go do what the rest of the mentally ill mongoloids do and review things on aggregate websitesAnon, I can think it's bullshit without wanting to go down that rabbit hole. People have shit taste; end of.
>>283292995I thought it was a pretty fun parody of Alien. Something silly to go before Jupiter Jazz.
>>283289962Who tf uses imbd to rate anime?
>>283308404It's not even good for rating normalfag shows anymore.
Its popular thanks to american normies that dont like anime
>>283255964But nothing about CB is memorable. 20 minutes of boring dialogue and some fight scenes at the end, then the main guy gets some coochie but she dies and he decides to commit suicide, that's it. No idea why is it held in such high regard to this day.
>>283255118
>>283308538>nothing about CB is memorablecontrarianism is an epidemic
>>283306774Ballad and Jupiter Jazz are great episodes. It's the 2 parter finale that drops the ball.
>>283295235god, the things I would do...
>>283309942would you lick her armpits?
>>283310274yes,
>>283255118Regardless of our thoughts on the anime, I think we can all agree the live-action version sucked balls.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkzCdTioH54
>>283255118if you want the awesome epicsauce backstory flashback episode of Spike Spiegel (where he's shown to be quite... Fearless haha ;) ) you can watch the incredible live-action remake that delves right into it, fixing the anime's glaring omission! among other things... hehe ;)
The bounty of the week episodes are good, but the Julia episodes are my favorite.
>>283289724Yeah. He asked for Yamadera to sound like Lupin at certain moments when voicing Spike.
>>283316272>The bounty of the week episodes are good,they would be on content alone, but then they all end with the same "lol we're broke again" gag which ruins it all.
>>283312482what reason did they give for making Jet black?
>>283308618Long ass feet
>>283308618feetservice