According to Japan's Agency for Cultural Affairs, these are the most influential and memorable works in the history of Japanese media arts that helped shape modern anime. Do you agree?
>>283279999I have not seen any of these
>>283280037get out
>>283279999>Ghost in the shell over Dragon BallHuh
>>283279999>FMA over dragon ball>devilman rip off at number 1Embarrassing
>>283280066I've probably seen more anime than you, I just don't watch boring shit like this list
>>283279999Kamichu is the only good one here
>>283279999>LupineLupinでしょう？
>>283279999>no KnY
>>283279999>No Space Battleship Yamato>No Sailor Moon>No Macross>No Urusei Yatsura>No Gosenzo-sama BanbanzaiWhat in the holy fuck??
>>283280092Even if you're joking please kill yourself immediately.
>>283280116I mean some of those are in the top 100, just not in this part of top 25.
>>283279999If you haven't seen AT LEAST half of this list, why are you even on /a/? conqueror of shamballa being on that list is weird af though.
>>283280137They should be in the top fucking 15 Who assembled this list?Why is KAMICHU in there?
This is made as a list of influential and memorable works for other creatives of note in the Japanese animation industry.I think it's a decent list. You can draw clear lines between several individuals on the staff lists of these works.All of you going "???" are probably thinking more about popularity in the pop-culture scene, which is irrelevant.Kurosawa was hugely influential on several bigshot Western movie makers but his movies aren't that popular even in pretentious film circles, despite the fact that his name is namedropped by them at every opportunity.Just look at the staff listings of, say, Char's Counterattack or Patlabor 2.I accept the inclusion of stuff I haven't scene, because I trust that they were influential on creators.
>>283280154>no KnY
>>283280160Gosenzosama was so influential in terms of designs/movement that reactions to it earned the term "Gosenzo-shock" from every animator who was active in the industry when it came out.
>>283280116What you listed are snack tier anime these are actual food.
>>283280154>LupineREEEE
>>283280203Shut your mouth nigger
>no KnY>no SnK
>>283279999>ChungsaThe fuck is that supposed to be?
>>283279999Kamichu? Really?
>>283280273It is regarded as a masterpiece and was recognized for its artistic quality, winning the Excellence Award in the Animation Division at the 2005 Japan Media Arts Festival. Among TV anime, it achieved the highest distinction. It also ranked joint 22nd, alongside The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, in the Agency for Cultural Affairs’ “Japan Media Arts 100 Selections” (Animation Division).Critic Yuichiro Oguro highly praised the series for its engaging story and its animation that captures natural human emotions and movements. Critic Ryusuke Hikawa also lauded it as a work that brings happiness.Manga artist Tatsuki Fujimoto has said that he likes the series and has watched it several times because he found it so enjoyable.
>>283280273I can kinda see why a japanese government department would like it but it does stick out
>>283279999The titles are correct but I don't agree with the order.
>>283280160Wrong. This is an even worse take because then the list is missing generation defining works. Where are Gold Lightan and Naruto which got entire generations of animators to become animators? Where is Night on the Galactic Railroad? Where is Gamba? This list makes no sense no matter the perspective you look at it from. I have NEVER and I mean never read or heard a Japanese creative talk about how LotGH or Kamichu oder FMA of all things influenced them. Meanwhile there are countless people who got into animation because of sakuga episodes in Gold Lightan (including Yuasa) or Matsumoto's animation in Naruto.
>>283280187>>283280247Both are modern anime retard
>>283280401So is FMA
>>283279999Kamichu? Who the hell knows that internationally? No Pokemon in the top 20 is crazy.
>>283280401>over a decade old>modern
>>283280435Pokemon anime is garbage and everybody knows that
>no One Piece or NarutoLOL
>>283279999Funnyschizo gonna freak
>>283279999Why are 2-6, 8 and 10 the only ones who get a place? What does it mean?
>>283280478Stop noticing
>>283279999>Japan's Agency for Cultural Affairsyikes
>>283280203>food analogy
>>283280531let him cook
some obvious omissions, but yeah Kamichu is a masterpiece
>>283280398>Meanwhile there are countless people who got into animation because of sakuga episodes in Gold Lightan (including Yuasa) or Matsumoto's animation in Naruto.Or Hakkenden or FLCL etc.This is obviously not made from a sakugafags perspective.
>>283280554Alright, that's it.Get in the oven.
>>283279999>Chungsawhat is this?
>>283280621Mushishi
>>283280621Big Chungus
>>283279999I am not Japanese.
>>283280655We know.
Why post an automated translation instead of the original?
Name the last time you've seen kamichu thread.
>>283280105>>283280187KnY is just popular. It didn't influence or shape modern anime.
>>283280435>internationallyIrrelevant
>>283280743It certainly shaped the minds of the two young spics you replied to
>>283280151>If you haven't seen AT LEAST half of this list,Why would I? Cardcaptor Sakura and Chungsa are the only good anime on that list.
>>283280711I don't think they take 4chan threadcount into consideration
>>283280037>>283280092You are not missing much yeah, from this list I would only recommend Eva and CCS, you can skip everything else.
>>283279999Haruhi won btw
Glad Kamichu is getting the recognition it deserves. For all of you here complaining about it, your opinion doesn't matter.
This is a list from 2006https://en.namu.wiki/w/%EC%9D%BC%EB%B3%B8%20%EB%AF%B8%EB%94%94%EC%96%B4%20%EC%98%88%EC%88%A0%20100%EC%84%A0
>>283279999post the linkalso>fma
>eva is firstthat piece of shit is first?
>>283280105>>283280187>>283280247>>283280398>>283280446Because Its a list from 2006https://kurashidata.com/548#100_2006
>>283279999>Fullmetal Alchemist How?
>>283280881retard
>>283280881>>283280830Thankfully this thread has confirmed Kamichu is as relevant now as it was then
>>283280811>>283280970>>283280573The list was rigged by Kamichu fans like the ones quoted. They smuggled in fake anime like "Chungasa" too, probably as a joke. This thread is a psy-op.
>>283281000>Kamichu fansThe whole 5 of them, I am sure.
>>283281000Yeah, chungasa can't be a real anime name, chunguses weren't invented until after 2006
NGE is just extremely overrated by a certain nostalgic circle of fans it doesn't deserve to be 1
>>283281000>https://kurashidata.com/548#100_2006Looks like it's MTL for Mushishi
>>283281010They're an extremely small but elite group. Remember what Lenin said about revolutionaries. You only need a few good men to get the job done.
No sailor moon ? That shit pretty much kick-started the magical girl genre
>>283281098kek
>>283281098It's 38
>>283279999How is FMA influential and memorable but not other battle shounen?? I can understand DB at least.
>>283281098This is only original anime, not manga adaptions.
>Castle of Lupine>Chungsa>Shambhala>Red Pig>Counterattck of Adult Empire>Kamichuwho?
>>283281132Shin-chan movie
>>283281098>kick-started the magical girl genreMaybe the sentai like part of it but not the rest.>>283281132>he hasn't watched Red Pig
was this MTL from jap to chink to eng or some shit, how is it so bad
>>283281190Worse: Corean
>>283280968???
>>283279999LoGH mentioned
>>283280160Your statement about is wrong since NGE tops the list while in fact NGE sure had some good animation bad clearly not worth a mention.
>>283281277The face of autistic man
>>283281036>>283281280NGE was a miracle for the japanese economy. They've managed to sell so much overpriced plastic because of it.
>>283281292
>>283281332
>>283279999Where is JoJo's?
Oh boy another fucking list thread from and for a bunch of norm->>283279999>>283280881>23A refined pallete of works, each entry highlighting a new height of Japanese storytelling fused with the passionate, unique visual styles only found in Japanimation.
>>283281190This is pretty standard google translatese.
>>283279999>Anno on first and second placeApologize
>>283279999Here's the actual list in nip without these google tl shit.
>>283281490
>>283281490>.gifanon what the fuck
>>283281508That's straight from their website.
>>283280830>>283280881So what? Almost nothing relevant was produced after that.
>1st>2nd place>7th>8th place
>>283280037I have watched all of those.
>>283279999Where’s Madoka
>>283280830>>283280881Oh lolOp is a faggot
>>283281596>>283280881
>>283279999>From 2006How would the list look now? Mugen Train would be there for sure
>>283280830but Fullmetal Alchemist started airing in 2009
>>283279999>Kamichuwell that's a surpriseI love it but never thought it was that highly regarder
>>283281646Are you stupid?
>>283281544>It appears my superiority has led to some controversy
>mihackzaki>list average release year is in the prehistoryList disregarded
>>283279999I don't see Naruto, which should be there.
>>283281924IESLB
>>283280154More than half of that list is no longer relevant and thus, utterly meaningless.
>>283281967>t. Hackao MihackzakiDon 't you have a worthless son to beat?
>>283281552I will not stand for dishonesty and deception
>it's old, therefore it's obsoletenormalfag mentality
>>283281992Did you wander in from DBS or somethingShoo, andale.
>>283281280Aside from direct Rei and Kaworu rip-offs, which kind of faded out by now but were very common in anime for a while, NGE heavily changed the whole anime industry thanks to its late night reruns, which influenced the idea of airing new shows on that timeslot too, rather than every tv showing aiming for the daytime or early evening market. You also got a push for characters based products rather than the usual robots, since it was seen as freeing them from sponsor requests on the robot designs and even use in the show.Really, if you want to complain about stuff that's only there due to popularity (and from the time, they wouldn't even appear in a list made later) you have Kamichu! and freaking Conqueror of Shamballa.Legend of Galactic Heroes although old and renown hasn't really had much influence either and stands as an oddity if you compare it to other shows from any era.
>>283279999>Dragon Ball>#11Way too high
>>283279999Where is Pokemon?
>>283279999I'm surprised they didn't put in rose of Versailles
>>283281552>>283282015If these shows can't hold their position for another 20 years, then their placement is misjudged.
>>283279999>laputaHehehe
>>283282531Their position in what? Normalfaggots social media feed and tourists circlejerking discourse?I guess John Ford movies are shit because no normalfaggot today even knows they exist.
>>283282668In this list you absolute retard. What else could I be talking about?
>>283282015Receny bias is a thing, and that poll is obviously affected by it. Not to mention, the legacy of a series becomes much clearer to judge years later when we can see if it actually influences future big names or is still in the public conscious.
>>283282668Everything I like should be respected, and everything I don't like should be forgotten.
>>283279999>Red pigDo they mean porco rosso?
>>283283301They mean Kurenai no Buta.
>>283279999>23rd Kamichu!Excuse me?
>>283279999Kamichu? Was it really that influential?
>>283283324Because it is weird, when the film start, it displays crimson pig with the other translation if I remember correctly.
>>283283394Yes, it influenced my life
>>283280104puresu undarstando, automatically translated titles are not the english titles.5) Lupin12) Acktually Princess Mononoke (they didn't translate the second word)16) Has a spelling error, Shamballa17) Porco Rossoand some that I don't recognize
>>283279999>Dragon Ball below Ghost in the Shell, Fullmetal Alchemist and Evangelion.Japanese are known for their notoriously shit taste.
>>283279999GreatBadBadMidGreatDidn't watchMidBadGreatMidRanges from bad to greatOkGoodOkOkLMAOMidGreatDidn't watchBadGreatGreatDidn't watchDidn't watchBad
>>283280092frfr not even boku no pico?? how the fuck is bocchi not on this
>>283279999>Evangelion >Doraemon >Gundam >Totoro >Dragon Ball >Z Gundam All those had either loli nudity, shota nudity, uncensored boobs or all 3 of them So if they recognize those things as important and influential the why go out of their way to censor all 3 of those things on every anime remake, reruns and streaming?
>>283280087Actually, it's a Zeorymer ripoff.
>>283284507Your logic is completely insaneSeek mental asylum
>>283280037>>283280092ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>283284555Not him, but nudity is natural and I genuinely believe that nudity and body focus breathes humanity into anime. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, humans have bodies, are aware of them and look at them. Whether lewd or non-lewd, it's inseparable part of human experience and makes stories better when included.
>>283279999I know 20 of those but only watched 6
>>283279999I don't even watch much anime but I've watched 16 of those
>>283284507Muttland happened.
>>283279999>>283280154Nice to see FMA there. I'm interested in why Samurai 7 is there though.
>>283286476then why are you on /a/?
>>283280154>nadesicoWas that show that big?
>>283279999>16th: Conquerer of ShambhalaYou mean the FMA movie with the actual nazis? What the fuck is that doing there?
>>283279999Nice quads but the Laputa Animation Festival poll is still better.Top films:1. My Neighbor Totoro (1988, Miyazaki)2. The Little Prince and the Eight-Headed Dragon (1963, Serikawa)3. Horus: Prince of the Sun (1968, Takahata)4. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (1984, Miyazaki)5. Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986, Miyazaki)6. Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro (1979, Miyazaki)7. Spirited Away (2001, Miyazaki)8. Akira (1988, Otomo)9. Grave of the Fireflies (1988, Takahata)10. Puss ‘n Boots (1969, Yabuki)Top series:1. Future Boy Conan (1978, Miyazaki)2. The Adventures of Gamba (1975, Dezaki)3. Astro Boy (1963, Tezuka)4. Mobile Suit Gundam (1979, Tomino)5. Neon Genesis Evangelion (1995, Anno)6. Heidi, Girl of the Alps (1974, Takahata)7. Lupin III (1971, Osumi/Miyazaki/Takahata)8. 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother (1976, Takahata)9. Anne of Green Gables (1979, Takahata)10. Space Battleship Yamato (1974, Matsumoto/Nishizaki) Top shorts:1. The Spider and the Tulip (1943, Masaoka)2. Dojoji Temple (1976, Kawamoto)3. The Magic Ballad (1982, Okamoto)4. Jumping (1984, Tezuka)5. House of Flame (1979, Kawamoto)6. Broken Down Film (1985, Tezuka)7. Tales of a Street Corner (1962, Tezuka/Yamamoto/Sakamoto)8. Coffee Break (1977, Furukawa)9. Mt. Head (2002, Yamamura)10. The Breaking of Branches is Forbidden (1968, Kawamoto)
>>283287664>My Neighbor Totoro (1988, Miyazaki)And dismissed. Kiki, Mononoke Hime, Nausicaa>>>> my faggot totoro.
>>283280037at least watch haruhi
>>283287783>Mononoke Hime better than TotoroMH was Miyazaki's worst work before The Boy and The Heron
>>283281122>>283287005Given how the list is from 2006, it makes absolute sense, that series is what jump started Bones in the first place iirc.
any list with Akira is an automatic DQ. What an overrated shit.
>>283282015Anime is just much better now.
>>283279999I don't think I've heard of a single one of these except for Dragonball, Gundam, and Doraemon.Trash list of literally who's. Where's Attack on Titan? Where's Chainsaw Man? Where's Sword Arts Online?
>>283289082Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>283280321Agreed. Kamichu is good but feels like something that was gov subsidized. Lots of cultural stuff.
>>283281913Yurie is your goddess whether you like it or not
>>283289446Cute retard in love
>>283281490>>283281504>no SAOIt singlehandedly created an entire decade+ of blackhaired protagonists who get transported to another world.
>>283279999>half of them didn't inspired shit or were inspired by a more memorable workthe absolute state
>>283291663Check your grammar before you post. We are not in a death battle thread.
>>283279999>the most influential>that helped shape modern anime.I think Japanese people don't know what these words mean.
>>283279999>>283281132>Castle of Lupine III CagliostroLupin III the best movie>ChungsaChainsaw man?>ShambhalaFMA 2003 the final movie>Red PigRed Pig = Porco rosso>Counterattck of Adult EmpireCrayon Shin-chan movie>KamichuCGDCT from 2005
>>283279999probably would swap shamballa for Madoka or Sao, since we are sill getting madoka clones and Isekai to this very dayalso>kamichulmao
>>283292175>ChungsaMushi-shi. Apparently the wrong transliteration is korean for some reason.
>>283292474>Madoka or Sao, since we are sill getting madoka clones and Isekai(You)
>>283292474I agree
>>283279999>>283280154So proof Old really IS Good, and New really IS Bad
>>283293092As this list is supposedly from 2006, the fact that it includes FMA does not really make it sound like "old good".
>>283279999All these shows are woke where’s dragon ball heroes
>>283293092>list made in 2006>has series like Haruhi, Kamichu and Mushishi among the top 30>literally shows that aired 1-2 years ago back when this was made It's the exact opposite, this list has a lot of recency bias and it feels more like a "new good" list
>>283279999Dragon Ball should be much higher and that retarded 2003 WW2 fanfic ending shouldn't even be here, let alone over fucking Madoka, which is still giving us edgy magical girls today.
>>283279999>tfw still haven't seen NausicaaIt's on my HDD, I swear I'll get to it eventually.With that being said, Evangelion being number one is pretty obvious. If there ever was one example of THE anime, Eva had to be it.
>>283279999I haven't seen 99% of anime but I've largely cleared this list. I will happily take this as confirmation that I have sifted through the trash successfully.
>>283280154>>283280116>>283279999>Cardcaptor Sakura over SMHAHA take that Toei slop eaters, CLAMP chads win again!
>>283279999>No Rumic IPsIsn’t she the richest mangaka in Japan for a reason? At the very least either Urusei Yatsura or Ranma should be on that list for creating the modern harem and bishoujo genres and codifying such common anime tropes like tsunderes and yanderes.
>>283288887How much are you being paid to be wrong on the Internet?
>>283279999I did not expect Kamichu. Pleasant surprise.
I finished reading the first book of Nausicaa and besides the first 50 pages, I was pretty bored the whole way through.Am I a brainlet?
>>283280798the melancholy of peak
>>283282126>Legend of Galactic Heroes although old and renown hasn't really had much influence either and stands as an oddity if you compare it to other shows from any era.That's because it's an OVA, it's literally funded and maintained separately from the regular anime ecosystem. That's why it's such a unique and ambitious show, regardless of the opinion one has about it. The influence it has, if one can find it anywhere, is probably not in making other giant OVA shows.
>>283294938I read her works and they're all shit
>>283298124>all shitNot a fan of the tsundere trope I take it?
>>283279999>influentialNo. If we are talking about influential shows Astro Boy, Mazinger Z, Sailor Moon, Hokuto no Ken, Death Note, SAO and at least one shoujo should be there.
>>283279999never heard of 6th, 17th, 19thI know of the rest but only watched 5/25hbu fags
>>283300276>and at least one shoujo should be thereYou already mentioned Sailor Moon though.
>>283301370Sailor Moon is shonen for black women
>>283280037Based
>>283300276sneaked in DN, like we wouldn't notice.
>>283280105>modern anime shaped itself out of thin air
>>283292175Ah yes, lets get an ero doujin artist do character designs for us.
>>283279999Anno in shambles
>>283279999>Fucking STAND ALONE COMPLEX above GiTS>Dragon Ball and Pokemon not undisputed 1 v 2Fake list they made up to make themselves feel better
>>283304393Pokemon is pure slop you retard
>>283279999Actual top 25 (No particular order)1. Evangelion2. Nausicaa3. Pokemon4. Gundam5. Lupin III6. Astro Boy7. Mazinger Z8. Hokuto no Ken9. Perfect Blue10. Ghost in the Shell11. Dragon Ball12. Ashita no Joe 13. Akira14. Spirited Away15. Doraemon16. Battleship Yamato17. Sailor Moon18. FLCL19. Slam Dunk20. Madoka Magica21. Cardcaptor Sakura22. Haruhi Suzumiya23. Princess Knight24. Love Live25. SAO
>>283304541>No particular orderwhat does that mean
>>283282160cope
>>283280087Absolute bullshit.
>>283280154>50th lupinI call bullshit
>>283304541>Sailor Moon over Cardcaptor SakuraYour Toei toy shilling kiddy shit will never be good.
>>283279999>>283279999 (OP)>Haruhi Suzumiya over >>283280154Slam DunkBullshit, the latter literally is a sports anime benchmark and it's op is one of the most popular karaoke songs in history while the former at best had some hand in the brief para para craze and memes. Even K-On has more cultural relevance because it's relatable while haruhi was just good.
>>283295953I wish there were more giant OVA shows.
>>283305047Lotgh didn't have animation as good as other ovas.
>>283305062Absolutely correct, but directing was good and it told a good story very well.
>>283305062Because it had an episode per month and not per year.
>No Devilman or any Go Nagai work despite him influencing like half of that list
>>283305344Imagine being such a brainless npc that you have to repeat what has already been said in the first fucking post
>>283286600Probably just because it's based on Seven Samurai.
>>283280830>>283280881mods STILLdidnt remove this thread and permaban OP
>>283304541>Love Live
>>283305062it didn't need one, most of the show is people talking.
>>283279999>endless 8: the movie, the show is on theregg kyoani proving that writing doesnt matter as long as the girl is cute
>>283280270Bugs Bunny animation
>>283305062the lack of animation is inverse to how much i liked listening to them talking
