is there anything else like time bokan?

Anon was right about megazone. It wasn't that good.

>>283280832
if you have nothing to say, don't make a thread

>>283282136
It's amazing.

>>283282895
I can always give it another try. What about it made it great?

>>283282956
The animation, the action, the characters, it did the Matrix before the Matrix.

>>283280832
Wow, I actually started Giant Gorg yesterday

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>>283282981
God I love Yas

>>283283404
I feel like his stories are fresh no matter what time they're from. The still being done completely by hand helps a lot.
Venus wars and arion have entered my top favorites

>>283283534
It's the difference between people who grew up in reality and people who grew up watching anime. As Miyazaki always says.

>>283283570
Oh I absolutely agree. the best stories come from working off of experiences and memories while adding a touch of fantasy to it. And this goes for all genres. You can make an entire fantasy world but your characters have to feel grounded and realistic inside the fantasy world. People always make the comparison to large fantasies like legend of the rings or Harry Potter for example. But a lot of those characters feel grounded in their reality with a touch of unrealistic personality traits but their choices feel grounded. They don't make weird and stupid choices that don't make sense. They tend to make sense when you put your head in the mindset of the character and their experiences. Hopefully that's a little understandable I have a huge headache

>>283283623
It is completely understandable. Nerds and especially sci-fi nerds tend to lose themselves in the spells, and spaceships and forget that what made the original sci-fi/fantasy so great is that despite not being set in reality, it was telling stories about real people and giving us insights about the real world.

When you completely lose that essence, you end with Isekai and wish fulfillment fantasy tropes, where elves don't represent pureness, and ethereal qualities but only sexy objects. The protagonist doesn't' need to grow or learn or go through hardships.
There's no battle between good and evil, orcs and demons because orcs and demons have always been evil in fantasy books, and the protagonist is good not because of his virtue or character but because he's the protagonist.

>>283282956
I think megazone is so great because of the pacing and agency
you really feel the villains are constantly on the move and the side plots involving the main cast are endearing while the main story weaves in and out of them

>>283280832
Do you mean actually retro or just pre 2000s?

>>283283828
I want to write more to reply to this but you essentially have said what I've been thinking for me. People have also seem to have lost the ability to talk to those who are strangers or elderly. I've talked to a lot of people, simply because that's part of my job, but you also absorb those stories given to you from other people. A lot of people nowadays just talk online on social media. They don't interact outside of their bubble. You can even look here at the whole cross boarding culture as well to be a subset of that.
How do you share stories of real human interaction when none of your interactions have ever been in person. This matters especially in animation because you can't just write about what the other people are feeling you need to show what the other people are feeling and that also includes body language. You can even be autistic I'm still understand how body language works between two people even if you do not understand it to yourself. I would also say that perhaps to a modern manga artist a lot of their interactions are usually done by a phone call or email they don't have to walk over to their editor's office they don't have to even be in the same room as their assistance now with different screen and other types of window sharing. Even simple day today interactions are something that doesn't really happen. So they called upon interactions from middle school possibly high School which does tend to reflect on a majority of the industry. This is just me hypothesizing I'm certain that what I say has a small factor but it may not be the main factor of why that genre is popular you can also include wish fulfillment. Either way I'm glad that someone else feels the same way about it.

>>283283914
If you have to ask this isn't the thread for you. Kys

>>283283762
Harlock was cool. Still need to watch some of Leiji's other stuff

>>283284099
So you don't know the meaning of the words you're using. Say no more.

>>283283326
I liked Nuku Nuku's TV series despite all the shit it gets

>>283283913
I think you meant urgency, and I agree, it's a classic thriller. Really feels like things are moving forward.

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>>283284078
Yeah what you guys are saying totally agreed with. Talent + Experience + Relatability (which comes from life) really make good products. I have been studying artists lately and noticed a trend that their most famous pieces are reltabale and/or have a strong historical importance. Edward Hopper's Nighthawks, Iiya Repin's Ivan the Terrible painting, Basquait's Untitled, etc. The same for any hobby. The moments that stick with us are the ones we can relate too the most and/or are the most significantly impactful to the story or characters.
Shoot, even early Spongebob Squarepants is an example of this. Hillenburg made this interesting and funny cartoon that did so well due to its relatability and humor. We all know characters like seen in the show to some degree, so it has wide appeal. Then later seasons after he passed seemd to completely lose that and go 'uhhh Patrick dumb, Squidward mean, Spongebob quirky' etc. They don't understand the appeal itself, only that there was an appeal.

>>283280900
You've watched all the Time Bokan shows?

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>>283284753
maybe more naked babes would motivate modern animators

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>>283284657
There's only like 50-60 eps yeah. It's on the Internet archive. I would just play an episode randomly. It's really intended for for kids but it was pretty funny

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>>283282895
Conceptually, Megazone is amazing. The animation is hit or miss, with some great sequences and a number of goofy cheap-out moments. And meanwhile, the dialogue is wretchedly bad, like it was written by a dumb teenager. It's definitely worth a look considering how much creativity was put into it, and how influential it was, but it's not something I'd suggest to someone who wants interesting characters.

>>283286016
What would you recommend to someone who wants interesting characters? Vinland Saga?

>>283286534
Just for starters, try SDF Macross from the same director.

>>283286016
this is exactly what i thought when i watched it. it even had good character designs if not inconsistent directors.

>>283286534
Ashita no Joe, Ace wo Nerae, Takarajima, Harlock, Gundam, Ideon

>>283285069
I meant all the series in the franchise. That would be the first place I would think to look if you wanted more, although the shows under the Time Bokan banner diverge quite a bit from the original, aside from recycling the villain trio. If you did watch everything I was going to ask your thoughts because that would be quite a lot to complete, Yatterman alone is over a hundred episodes.

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Best hentai ever??
The apocaliptic scenes are insane

the ovas not the censored movie

>>283288773
wait that's the nutty bitch from zeta gundam

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>>283288773
Also this whole thing could have been prevented if the mc didn't cum, how the fuck didn't the blue haired guy didn't realise this shit earlier....

I guess there are sequels to this, are they good?

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>>283288773
I'm a big Umetsu fan, so I'm only familiar with A Kite and Mezzo Forte
Anything similar out there? I already know he worked on an episode of Cool Devices

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>>283289155
But i bet this one doesn't have tentacle dicks that shoot laser cum that can nuke a planet tho

>>283289155
Ninja Scroll if you haven't checked it, not outright a hentai but comes pretty cool, plenty of good violence.

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>>283289155
>ambiguously young but deadly girl that dresses sexy
>gore

Try Armitage III, not hentai, but there is sex in it.

>>283288664
>all the series in the franchise
I was looking for more series like it but to be honest with you i didn't even know it had a whole other franchise. i just picked it up randomly. have you finished the whole series?

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arion had some fun extras on the dvd and ld

>>283290063
No, just bits and pieces. I'm partial to Ippatsuman, but that's a later entry which is considerably more superhero and mecha oriented, and Itadakiman, which is just completely off the rails. I would at least check out Yatterman, which was the second entry in the series, and ended up eclipsing the rest in popularity. It might be worth it to check out Tatsunoko's original shows from the 70s and early 80s, they were doing some unique stuff that has never quite been imitated.

Watched the first two episodes of Votoms and liking it so far. Did not expect the series to take place in the post-war, although the conflict's resolution seemed to come out of nowhere, maybe it will be expanded on in a further episode. On another note, the ED is genuinely one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard.

>>283291611
Votoms isn't about war.
But it has a couple prequels taking place during the war.
If you like the series I recommend watching the various OVAs afterward.

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Recently, Geo Breeders was fun.

Thats it, no big fan of "retro anime" (despite being 1983 race).

>>283292252
Make sure you wait until afterward to watch the OVAs though, since even the prequel OVAs have significant spoilers.

>>283293687
i kinda look like this guy

>>283294686
post tits and recreate the frame

>>283293687
nice

>>283293687
Yaranaika?

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>>283283762
Leiji Based

>>283289824

There is no sex in the Armitage III room.

>>283298181
Yes there is. It's a fade to black but it's part of the plot. and it's a fairly big part of the plot, at that.

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Ink and paint - Retro
2D computer - Nostalgic
3D computer - Modern

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>>283298181

>No sex.

Damn it, they hired the Saved by the Bell/Showgirls girl for nothing.

>>283298211

No, implied sex is not sex.
Urotsukidoji for example had sex in it because you could clearly see them having sexual intercourse in it. It was not implied.
Armitage had some fade to black crap and gave you the implication they "had sex" but despite being an OVA not held back by tv standards they did not show them actually having sex.
For all we know they just lied there doing nothing for awhile.

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>villain is evil because...he wants to marry his sister
OK, I did not see that coming.

>>283298644
2d computer?

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>>283299675
I don't really get what you're getting at

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>>283301576
After ink and paint was phased out, but before 3D modeling was heavily instituted there was a period where most shows were just flat 2D animated in photoshop and other type programs. Some series found their footing like Fullmetal Alchemist, but other studios struggled to get the look of the new format right, and action shows ended up looking stodgy and strangely colored. Fortunately there was a story type that played well into this era: Girls going to high school. This is the birth of cute girls doing cute things. Azumnga Daioh, Lucky Star, Ichigo Marshmallow shows like that took the basic animation they could do well on the new tech and created a movement...Or a monster depending on who you ask.

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You can never go wrong with Cyber City Odeo 808

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https://youtu.be/UuKuLdTKgC8?si=Rl8SYv2wo5pdRkf9

Watching Devil Hunter Yoko right now and why is the manga so different? The manga is about a dog thing she finds, but she is super pure, classical magical girl. In the anime she is a turboslut and for some reason episode 5 and 6 have completely different art styles. What's the story behind this?

Oh hey this thread

>here and there, now and then
Well, this fucking sucked major fucking balls. The backgrounds look nice and the animation is decent through the whole runtime but that is as far as i go with positives. The story sucks thanks to all characters being retarded and sometimes annoying to an unacceptable degree, im genuinely surprised at how much people seem to like this one. 2/10

>ebichu
It was fine, surprisingly bloody for a show clearly aimed at women. The jokes are hit or miss but even when they miss its not aggressively unfunny, just a bit repetitive with the punchlines being either "lol sex" or "lol fuck ebichu". The ebichuman segments were some of the best part and its a shame there is only 3 of them. 5/10

>utena
Just started, 3eps in but its pretty good so far, also clearly made for women but i can see being nice to men too. Utena is a great protag and the visuals and presentation have been pretty stellar, though i wonder how much runtime will be recycles like entering the arena or pulling the sword out. Worse part so far is that awkward exposition of ep2 in the student council.

>>283280832
Gorg is a neat cool show with a lot of charm. And it's pretty unique as far as my experience with 80s shows go.
There aren't many shows of the time that are as explicit with the linearity of it's plot. Usually they play with a MotW format with some elements being relevant to further the plot. But not gorg, every episode ends where the next starts. And i think that's pretty awesome.
Oh and the ost is great.
https://youtu.be/B1ITQbqtlwM?si=b4fbalAhG2QOa57E

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To the anon that recommended Video Girl Ai in the 'shows only you watched' thread. This is... far better than i expected.
Also, to the anon that recommended Brigadoon in that same thread. It's pretty cool so far, so thanks for that too.

>>283302577
>First thing they do is shrink her boobs.

My only complaint about a great and fun show.

>>283302231
The OVA is the original, while the manga came later. Manga adaptations of original anime are often wildly divergent from the source material. I don't know the specific reasons for it, but it's definitely not an unusual occurrence.

>>283301699
I wouldn't use the phrase 2d computer for that.

>>283302499
This is why I like gorg a lot. It doesn't try to do grand things. It has 26 episodes and tells it's story in 26 episodes.

>>283302499
Queen Millennia is like that too

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>>283304011
Do any of the subs online keep the jiggle counter?

>>283302320
Interesting that you mentioned Now and Then, Here and There and Utena, because I thought both of them were kind of stupid, but it ended up bothering me more with Utena.
I agree that there's some off the charts stupidity in Now and Then, but I think I just started to accept it because it's not just the MC who seems to have brain problems. Eventually I just started to feel like idiocy and misery were key themes to the show and accepted it as is.
Meanwhile with Utena I just found the initial premise stupid, and found it hard to respect all of the characters who are buying into the contest. I will say that eventually it did offer some catharsis to me, but it was a long time coming and it was never really a show that I had visceral enjoyment while watching it.

By the way, Ebichu was a seinen manga by a female mangaka, for whatever that information is worth.

>>283305006
I havent gone far in Utena at all to tell how stupid it gets, but the fact that the "husband" can just magically pull a sword out of the jeeta's body and the giant castle in the sky you can only see in certain conditions does lead credence that the whole "change the world" power they can get from the contest to be real, so maybe it gets dumber in some way.

Here and There though, because its clearly aiming for a message so overdone with such weak fucking characters it makes me extra mad. I can put aside the MC's own extreme stupidity as its supposed to be symbolic of the modern man/values or fucking whatever (its not forgiven though, im just a little more lenient), but every other fucking side character is also so stupidly annoying or retarded; the cartoony dictator, his retarded second in command, the walking mcguffin, the village bitch, the setting having an easily accessible time travel/dimension travel available to it, its too fucking much. The only redeeming factor is Sara and she is hit with the retard bat at the end for not even keeping a rapist baby, no, but for deciding on staying on nightmare land for ZERO reason. God im getting mad just thinking about it.

>By the way, Ebichu was a seinen manga by a female mangaka
Makes sense, Ebichu being female itself was enough of a hint at it but the show just seemed to be very feminine on how it handled topics, not really bad, just different.

>>283280900
Mon Colle Knights

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>>283305574
>Mon Colle Knights
lol that show was awesome as a kid. the dub is actually pretty hilarious. like a pizza cats light. the original japanese version isn't anything special though.

>>283305675
Hey, they asked if there was anything similar to Time Bokan not if it was good.

>>283284753
so this is datura...

bump?

>>283288880
>are they good?
They are just are crazy as the first, there is also the whole nazi plot successor

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Sasuke finally joined the fully-translated 60s TV anime club.
Lovely old-school directing style. I'm having fun.
I'm hoping for Sabu to Ichi, Kamui Gaiden or Cyborg 009 next.

>>283305574
Thanks I'll check it out

>>283301905
I'm always too embarrassed to recommend it irl because of the gayrobics scene with Benten at the start

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>>283308449
bump!

>>283310464
That bit is so brief and innocuous it didn't even register to me.

What's your favorite series? Feel free to list one per decade.

>>283315763
70's Joe - Lupin
80's Patlabor
90's Berserk

Yes, i'm the boring tastes guy, but it is what is is. I watch mostly old ovas. Old series have like 100+ episodes.

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>>283315763
Attack No. 1, Candy Candy, Ideon, Utsunomiko, Genji Monogatari Sennenki
What about you?

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I think Big O was the last retro show. It was inspired by Batman the animated series, and film noir, it's first season was ink and paint, second was computerized and It just bathed in that retro feel.

>>283317156
I think mine is a boring list. It would just be something like black jack, time bokan, and giant gorg

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>>283305006
I somehow watched Versailles and Oniisama years before Penguindrum and Utena and man I can't stand them. I don't think I'd like them on their own merits but knowing that he was more or less trying to replicate really good works without understanding why they worked just rubbed me the wrong way. Or maybe I'm too much of a Dezaki simp

Unrelated, been watching Escaflowne knowing I wouldn't really care about it and yep, that's been pretty much the whole experience. It's been a nice show to practice my dekinai on.

And in the not-but-almost retro category, Fantastic Children. How is this show SO FUCKING SLOW. I probably should have dropped it but it's just got just the right amount of momentum and gravitas that I'm okay being pulled on what I presume will be a pretty barebones mystery solution

>>283309581
I got the Blu-ray awhile ago but haven't gotten around to watching it yet. Same with Kamui on Tubi.

Why is ashita no Joe so good? I always hear that it's good but what exactly makes it good in your opinion?

>>283319968
>Fantastic NTR

>>283305006
>Meanwhile with Utena I just found the initial premise stupid, and found it hard to respect all of the characters who are buying into the contest

If I were at a magical school in which people can come back from the dead, remain ageless for decades and the chairman was the physical embodiment of a kind of narrative concept, I think I would take a wish-granting contest seriously.

>>283284753
>Get magically undressed
>Be naked and sexy for a moment
>Get magically dressed in a newer, slicker outfit.

Cutey Honey lives that Barbie life.

>>283319968
What episode are you on? I had numerous false starts on Fantastic Children before I actually stuck with it, the early episodes are definitely excruciatingly slow. It is worth it though, the mystery is weirder than you think and it will start to be explained if you make it to the halfway point. Be advised that there is a recap episode around halfway through as well, IIRC episode 14. You'll know it when you see it, and it can just be skipped.

>>283284787
kek, well maybe he's supposed to be sliding down that slope.

>>283309581
Did Kishimoto name Sasuke after this guy?

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>>283320985
Joe is a great protagonist. He radiates energy, courage and troubled inner feelings. And this is vividly felt, probably because the people who made it shared, understood or idealized Joe's experiences. He belongs to those tumultuous times, and in fact the story makes painting a picture of them a priority. But as it goes, and he grows and becomes an icon, it turns naturally into a more personal and philosophical story, and manages to end on its own terms at the height of fame.
Sometimes things really deserve to be classics.

>>283323014
After the same mythical figure that Shirato named his Sasuke after, yes.

>>283309581
used to watch this with the italian and español

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>>283323331
Yeah its a classic archetype, done in anime even before that time, but apparently Kishimoto did name Sanpei's interpretation of it as an inspiration, if the internet is right.

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just here to say digimon is a lot more kino than i thought.

>>283320314
>Kamui on Tubi
Oh yeah whats up with that? Still the same batch of episodes out and no news?

>>283284787
You never slid down a grass hill before?

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>>283320985
its has way more tension compared to other animes like ace wo nerae attack n1 tiger mask kyoujin no hoshi and a lot of modern spokon anime