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The proper English localized title for Bakemonogatari is "Monstory".
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>>283326999
You're wrong
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>english localized
Thankfully other cultures aren't ameri-tier of retarded.
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It's Ghostory you pleb. It's Shiftale?

Or it means Bakemonogatari [TL Note: bakemono = lit. "thing that changes", referring to often shapeshifting yokai (TL Note: yokai are Japanese folklore supernatural entities or spirits) and monogatari = story or tale]
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Shut up please!
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don't care
post snek
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The MTBB version does have that iirc. I actually think it's cool that some of the portmanteau titles have feasible translations into English that also overlap. Like Impostory for Nise.
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>>283326999
The proper English localized title for Hachikuji is "my wife and baby factory".
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>>283328155
You still lose meaning because Kanji =/= Kana pronunciation and trying to fit what 3 Alphabets can do into 1 rarely works. The effort is appreciated though.
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>>283328123
My wife
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Patiently waiting for Nisio and Shaft to make more kino.
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>>283328246
Nisio made more recently. Stay tuned for Shiyafto.
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>>283328224
>DIV/0
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>>283328224
This is in the running for the worst hair style in the series. Even worse than Boydeko's hair style. If I wanted non-twin tails Sodachi she should have just had her hair completely down.
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>>283328554
Math fairy is pretty chill and forgiving about errors
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>>283328601
2 of the best hair styles in one season you have horrible taste
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>>283328601
Boydeko a best, you don't know anything
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>make a series revolving almost entirely around women (cept for the mc)
>all the best characters are male anyway
They should've gotten more screen time.
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>>283328866
Nah the little mysteries are better left untold. I think I heard the newest novel has Meme as the narrator so we can look forward to that if we stay alive long enough for family season.
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>>283328908
If they ever get that far, I have no idea how they're gonna adapt it. It's probably the most dense book in the series. Even more so than Zoku or Kizu.
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>>283328908
Meme's a bit secondary, though I do wish we saw him more. No need to unravel any mysteries. But I'd much rather have seen him take the place of Gaen in the later episodes. Annoying bitch, I tell you.
Kaiki is my real top g.
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>>283326999
Luv Battlefield chan, simple as.
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>>283328963
Dense as in number of pages or important content?
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>>283329353
Important content. The book is just packed. Even the obligatory downtime scenes have huge information dumps in them. I don't think I've ever been more exhausted reading a light novel.

It's good shit, though.
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>>283329409
Glad to hear it anon. One day I'll read the LNs, and another one day I will brute force them in Japanese to see what the translations missed.
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>>283329392
Do it...do it...
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>>283329392
NISIOOOOOOOO
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>>283329484
CAN YOU SEE ALL OF ME
WALK INTO MY MYSTERY
STEP INSIDE AND HOLD ON FOR DEAR LIFE
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>tfw no femdom stapler gf
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>>283326999
Isn’t it monster story and Kizu is scar story
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>>283329607
>Thinking Hitagi is a dom in bed
Lol. Lmao even.
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>>283329646
IM SORRY, I JUST CANNOT STOP THINKING ABOUT YOUR FRIEND OK?
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So what was up with Numachi? Specifically how did she get the devil's leg? Was it Kaiki?
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>>283329780
Kaiki did the same magic bullshit she pulled on Kanbaru to transfer the leg from the one girl to her. A bigger question for me is why Nisio decided to give the girl who originally had the leg the name Rouka too. Seems like pointless confusion to have both Numachi Rouka and the girl she gets the leg from also be named Rouka.
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>>283329768
Kecque
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>>283329818
He did that shit over the phone? I guess I won't question it much.
I think the names was just him trying to continue with the flower theme. Numachi's is written with the kanji for wax which I guess parallels the swamp or general inertia of high viscosity(?) while the other girl's is written with the kanji for tower, maybe a alluding to something akin to a flower trapped in a high place(?). Honestly I have no clue what he was going for, maybe some smarter anon that read the novels can shed some light.
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>>283329780
The Rainy Devil responds to wishes. It's a really, really powerful oddity, so it does a bunch of freaky shit you wouldn't expect it to. Kaiki just took advantage of the situation to set up the series of circumstances that would lead to Kanbaru losing her demon arm (which in turn would make her ineligible as Gaen's apprentice).
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Rouka got preggo and fucked her leg up
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>>283330107
So you're saying Kaiki wasn't involved with the actual transfer outside of letting it happen after pulling some strings for the events to happen.
Why was he surprised to meet Numachi when he was back in town doing the Nadeko stuff then? Timeline wise he should have known Rouka would eventually come close to Kanbaru if he was the one orchestrating the transfer some years ago. He also was surprised to learn Rouka was originally from this town as well.
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>>283330228
When he first met her, he kind of took note of her for future use and gave her some information that would keep her going. He didn't actually kick off the events of Hanamonogatari until he "ran into her" while dealing with Nadeko. That's presumably when he tipped her off about Kanbaru having one of the pieces she needed.
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>>283330340
But didn't the transfer happen shortly after their first meeting and not during Koimonogatari?
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>>283326999
I like to call them "Tales".
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>>283330364
No, it was far earlier. Their first meeting was just a casual phone number exchange. It was only after she called to ask about the devil leg that he really took notice of her. Presumably, at that point, Kaiki already understood it was going to jump to her and made it a point to explain the rainy devil to her a couple days later so she'd seek out the rest of it.
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>>283330532
It's still weird how he acts all surprised meeting her again in the town and going like "Oh I didn't expect to meet her here, didn't even know she lived nearby, hmm maybe it'll prove useful for when I want to meet Kanbaru in the future".
Assuming his plan started when he let the transfer happen for Kanbaru's sake. Unless I'm getting it wrong and you're implying he thought about the plan during Koi and him having let the transfer happen being a lucky coincidence.
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>>283330574
Yes. He was "surprised". He had "no idea she lived around here".

Kaiki is full of shit.
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>>283330605
I mean at this point unreliable narration can excuse pretty much anything. Not that I'm overly resistant to your theory, it's just that some things are unclear to me still. Maybe the novels do a better job at explaining the timeline of events and motivations. I think I heard Kaiki-Numachi is mentioned beyond Hana in the novels, maybe during a shorter story.
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This is the end of their first meeting.
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>>283330387
Monstale.
Get it? Get it?
Because this shit is boring.
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>>283330963
From this it seems like:
1- Kaiki considered it a bit of his duty to collect the Devil's parts. This might or not be further expanded upon in Tsugimonogatari, no idea.
2 - He can appear to be totally omniscient at times. Knowing Numachi is a ghost, knowing everyone's connections and motives which is weird. Then again, he's the narrator yadda yadda.
3 - He passes on the duty of collecting the parts to Numachi with an unclear motive. It could be that he doesn't want to do it. It could be that he wanted Suruga to take it up after Numachi, since that's what she seems to want to do by the end of Hana.
Of course collecting the parts like Numachi did into herself and collecting the parts like Kaiki or Suruga aimed to do are a bit different.
There is also the unknown issue of what Izuko and Tooe wanted for Suruga and if Kaiki goes along or against their wishes in the end.
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Nade KO Sengoku means Grenade child from sengoku
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Anyway, I'm going to bed. This is the first Monogatari thread I've seen in days with actual discussion, so I'll leave this here. It seems more likely to last longer than my thread. It's a bunch of notes I took while reading through Tsugimonogatari. For those who wish to brave into spoilers, I THINK this is the first complete English "summary" of the book, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's not.

https://pastes.io/monogatari-kaiki-meme-and-gaen-in-the-college-arc?

Password is "niggers". If the sheer amount of notes looks daunting, trust me, that's how it felt reading the damn book. It just throws stuff at you CONSTANTLY. It's a serious contender for the best book in the series, but man was it emotionally exhausting.

Notes may have a few details wrong, but I assure you they're better than the early spoiler summaries for Monster Season.
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>>283331252
Good luck studying for midterms lil bro
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>>283331252
Night night
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>>283328963
I would like them to slow down enough so that dense books get the treatment they deserve. Kizu cutting monologues might have been a design choice but they were in a hurry with some arcs like Kabuki and from what you said, Zoku. If something is dense then they should give it the episodes it deserves imo.
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Tsugi alone is making me want to read all the novels so I can catch up. I don't know why but everything up until Family Season didn't particularly rush me to read it. It mostly had me feeling like "hey cool shit I'll catch up to someday". But learning Tsugi actually tackles some mysteries as a backstory has me mega intrigued. Need to avoid spoiling myself.
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>I showed you my homework now answer me
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>proper localized
Oxymoron
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>>283326999
Senjougahara=Sarah
Araragi=Albert
Hachikuji=Hamburger
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>>283332838
Kanbaru should be played by Megan Thee Stallion in the live action American adaptation.
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>>283326999
Good one OP but the real title is Monoguttery because this series is literal sewage.
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Kaiki, Gaen, and Meme when?
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>>283332838
Aaron
Aaaaaaaaaron
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>>283334600
Whenever Tsugimonogatari gets adapted in 15 years.
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>>283332414
She deserves a nude scene
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>>283335037
We almost got one if not for the stupid Cat talking her out of it!
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>>283331252
This is really cool and I can't wait to see to animated (especially her nude body lol).
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>>283335201
Such a nice body that looks the best in loose and falling off clothing.
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>>283326999
I like the ones for Nise and Kizu personally. I forget what the full title was, but I remember one with the word farce being involved sounding particularly distinct.
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>>283336886
>>283328155
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>>283326999
It's "mostracconti" in italian
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>>283338068
Monstrosity
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>>283326999
monstrosity
and kill all tyrannylators
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Corpse
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>>283339188
This is such a pretty image, why does Monogatari get the best fan art?
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What if plain white was what was too lewd due to the inverse property of panties?
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>>283329392
>how to improve any girl
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>>283329621
she literally does baby play with araragi, it doesn't get more dom than that
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>>283331252
thank you
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Mayoi belongs on LBI
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>>283340986
It is amazing that such a simple style can be made so expressive
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You know? Hanekawa won by not getting it on with a dorky retard like Araragi
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>>283343513
This scene pissed me off because Araragi didn't go to at least the point of them being bare and didn't touch them.
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>>283331252
May cat bless you, I've been waiting so long for more Kaiki content and got rewarded with an even deeper love for the character. If reading the summary was emotionally exhausting, I can't even imagine how it felt to read it.
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>>283346222
>reading the summary was emotionally exhausting
I want to second this. Anon really did make a good summary. It is almost like I watched/read an arc in a way.
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NOOOOOOOOO NOT ENGLISH NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOO
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The image that predicted the future...
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>>283326999
My favorite scene is the one where Senjougahara stutters an apology. Very moe.
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>>283328224
She hates it
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>>283327938
bake = monster silly boy silly small boy silly tiny mini creature
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>>283348486
I'll forever envy Koyomi Araragi because it is unfair he gets to lick this chest every night and take baths with her.
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>>283326999
What is the localized name of "Kiss-Shot Acerola-Orion Heart-Under-Blade"?
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>>283326999
Not wrong
>>283327087
Typical /l/tard
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>>283335201
>>283335836
Wtf her hair is light black
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>>283349679
Proof and feets image???
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>>283349622
That.
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>>283349955
No arms
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>>283348486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mjlM_RnsVE
2edgy4me
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>>283350084
She's sitting on her hands.
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>>283349723
Sorry, I don't have feet images of Monogatari-related content.
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>>283326999
Bakemonostory
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>>283350319
Bakestory
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I hate how I can't say any of their names except Shinobutt and Cakaren
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>>283350084
hot
that scene in kizu when she was crawling as a quad was absolute peak
shame about the blood though
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>>283350658
Japanese pronunciation is pretty simple. You could probably learn both hirigana and katakana in a few hours and it'd make a lot make sense.
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>>283350319
Monstergatari (Translator's note: gatari means story)
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>>283350740
He means he can't say them without feeling stupid.
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>>283350740
How can I say Tsukihi.
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>>283350836
Tsu like the tsu on the end of nuts. Ki like the ky in panky. Hi like hee hee.
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>>283350836
つき as in 月, ひ as in 火.
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>>283351188
sex hair bird
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>>283350931
Literally built for world ending sex. She can regenerate her body so she never gaps, she's as tight as she will always be. This fucking Japanese sibling sex icon is the avatar of non stop banging.
This birb was so powerful they had to send 2 hit squads against her, they cannot risk this goddess having children.
If you ever get lucky enough in life to smash hips with a perpetual , don't ever pull out. Your children will have the blessings of a fucking phoenix.
I have to stop thinking about this birb, I'm going nuts.
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>>283351364
Both infused with the blood of an oddity and pure of blood. A perfect combination for your future children.
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>>283351513
>block buster
Yeah the japanned knew what they were creating.
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>>283351188
but also ひ as in 日
so 月(moon)日(day)
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>>283351760
Or sun
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>>283350658
>>283350740
It's sort of interesting how hard it is for anglos to shed the stress aspect of English in other languages. Like they would sooner say He-TAH-gi or HA-neh-ka-wah than Hitagi or Hanekawa.
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facebump into Tsukihi kiwis
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>>283352521
It is kind of weird that you'll even hear about English people who spend a long time in Japan doing this still. I'm a fully native English speaker, and can understand how to turn that off to speak Japanese (although I don't really do it a lot). It is rather straight forward, sounds better, and makes it easier in some ways. I just mimick the way I hear the Japanese speak, like I'd switch for Spanish in highschool Spanish class. But I suppose a lot of people simply aren't good at doing this. It still bewilders me how some can hear a foreign name or word even be pronounced and not know how to do it still (of course excluding times when there is a special sound not available in their language).
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>>283351760
>>283351188
"Moonfire" is such a chunni name, holy shit.
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Sun and moon discussion reminded me of the one line where Shinobu ponders the moon in Nise. Saying something about perhaps treating it too harshly when it was always nice to her. I wonder if it was supposed to have some deeper meaning relating to the Araragis.
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>>283352678
Anon, I think you missed some very obvious subtext. Yes, Shinobu is relating the moon being good to her to her desire to help Tsukihi. She even points out the kanji for moon in her name.
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>>283352620
I guess it is at least some consolation that it goes both ways. Be glad that you can pronounce "phoenix" as phoe-nix instead of having to say "fenikkusu". Though I feel like the Japanese are pretty lazy in this regard, I also speak a language natively without stress akin to that of English and I never had an issue with stressing words in English. You listen to enough English and you just develop a sense for it passively.
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>>283352694
That was what I was suggesting mentioning the Araragis. I immediately thought of Tsukihi when watching that scene the first time too. Maybe my post just sounded too unsure.
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>>283352624
Don't you think it's time we retvrned to the chuunikino of the 1990s and 2000s?
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>>283351188
Do eleveners care about what western names mean, too?
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Does anyone have any insight on the naming of the swords 心渡 and 夢渡 ?
More specifically why does one kill oddities while the other one restores them based on the names.
One "crosses over" the heart, mind or spirit and the other one "crosses over" dreams.
I don't have much of an explanation myself apart from vague stuff like:
心渡 affecting the heart and mind as the mechanisms/organs that relate to how one perceives oddities. It can forcefully interact with such perceptions to forcefully sever concepts from consciousness so to speak.
Then for 夢渡 you have the place where oddities can originate, in dreams, containing images, ideas and emotions that can give rise to "concepts". It forcefully severs these concepts from the mere consciousness to revive and create oddities.
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>>283353218
Yes.
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>>283353407
心 kinda means like the heart/core/idea/essence of something. It kills oddities because it cuts their very 心.

夢 is also a poetic flourish for something that doesn't exist or only exists briefly, like how you forget dreams I guess. The sword is called that because it turns death into a 夢.

The 渡 in both swords is Nisio making a stupid... I don't even think I'd call it a "joke". Just Nisio being stupid. 渡 because they're comically long swords. So they have a massive 刃渡り.
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>>283326999
>we can't have anything foreign or culturally different, it must ALL be localised
Why are americlaps like this?
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>>283353924
>they're comically long swords
Isn't one a Kodachi though?
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>>283349648
What if Kanbaru recreated the rainy devil
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>>283354188
How do you mean? Currently the Rainy Devil is a mummy of a previous oddity that Tooe killed. That is assuming its corpse parts weren't all destoyed in some later novel I haven't read.
Kanbaru doesn't seem as much of a genius as her mother to manifest her own RD, though I think it was mentioned that the Gaen family's expertise with the supernatural is oddity creation.
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>>283354274
Ok what if Numachi had won and had recreated the devil?
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>>283354322
Idk Monogatati logic doesn't work like a shonen manga. You have to analyze the characters and what they represent to even begin to speculate on how things interact with each other.
Originally the Rainy Devil was Tooe's version of Oshino Ougi. Well, Ougi is the cheap imitation in a way. Just as Araragi is hard on himself and towards others subconsciously, Tooe seems to have had a similar issue with her extreme self discipline worldview manifesting itself into the Devil. In her case she didn't choose to embrace or celebrate that part of herself moving forward, but instead changed completely as a person (presumably after marriage) symbolically exterminating the oddity.
With Numachi you just have a ghost oddity that is defined as a misfortune-collector trying to gather the parts of a dead oddity for the purpose of containing it. In that sense maybe nothing would happen and the dead oddity would be locked away in Numachi. Kanbaru said that Numachi had little use for wishes and you can kind of see that being true with how big of a ball of negativity she is.
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>>283326999
bakemonogatari = monstory/ghostory
nisemonogatari = impostory
kabukimonogatari = twistory
owarimonogatari = lastory

it would be cool to find a way to make all of them work like this
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>>283354737
>Pusstory (Black)
>Pusstory (White)
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bat____
Shino____
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>>283329409
gonna look forward to seeing that animated in 15+ years
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>>283353924
夢 is む which can also be 無 (not/nothingness) no?
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>>283352756
Huh, the Bat I ordered came out weird. Did they make a mistake?
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>>283356131
wut?
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>>283356376
She looks pretty so maybe it is okay
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Math thread.
Post Math feet.
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This is the most I have
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>>283357043
Yeah
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>>283357267
Very official feet
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>>283357267
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The way Sodachi curls up is hot
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The ending was super gay. Each arc was worse than the one preceding it. Oikura is the worst girl
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>>283358669
What ending?
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>>283348486
If Bake means monster, then you don't get to combine it into Monstory, so it's still wrong.
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The courage to say Monstory!
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>>283326999
I was just thinking about this art and how weird it is that Senjougahara has a magic power to create office supplies for like the first two episodes and then it literally never comes up again
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>>283360060
It comes up in Nise before Kaiki though taking exaggerated visuals at face value and calling it a power can be an issue.
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>>283360115
it's not just a visual thing, she talks about how her body produces stationery
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>>283360151
She does?
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>>283360192
i think she mentions it in the very first episode of bake
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>>283360242
Anon...
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Would you invite this girl to your party?
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>>283360714
yes
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shes so hot bros
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>>283339144
It's been a while since I've seen Tsuki
Yotsugi is a Tsukumogami of a corpse right? what was the corpse being used for for so long again?
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Stop thinking lewd thoughts about Nadeko
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>>283361165
That was also a question of mine but glancing over some spoilers it seems that it's not exactly like what we were lead to think. Just wait for Tsugimonogatari I guess.
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>>283361165
It's revealed in the new book that just came out, if you really wanna know.

She's multiple fresh corpses stitched together. They kind of cheated the 100 year number by adding up the ages of everyone who was added to it.
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>>283359868
>>283360065
This arc was made deeper by Tsugimonogatari
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>>283362264
No spoilers but, for Kaiki right?
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>>283362357
Yes, it was a small detail but made it a lot sweeter
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>>283361079
Is Mayoi's GC pussy warm or cold?
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>>283358937
The overlap is with bakemono, which at least can mean monster but there are probably other meanings. There's also obake, which is usually for ghosts. But all these words likely have many meanings. Same with nise too. Nise is a word but so is nisemono.
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>>283357341
>>283357362
>>283357385
>>283357398
>>283357551
Holy based Mathchads.
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>>283331252
post it again so I can read this shit
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Bananayoi
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>>283365001
>>283361079
Don't do it anon.
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>Not even the winning girl
>Not even the "main" girl
>Yet is almost close to Araragi in terms of screentime and still has tons of good moments with him
Did Nisio regret making crab the winner?
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Translate Sawari you plebs.
>PAELLA
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>>283365231
Hitagi is really a pointless character. It is why she doesn't appear much. Her only purpose was to "win". But he could have achieved this with a much more satisfying story using Hanekawa or Nadeko. This is probably why he has these characters go insane and do crazy shit.
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>>283343513
>>283350931
>>283351364
>>283351513
>>283358716
sexo, SEXO!!
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>>283365001
https://files.catbox.moe/4m34ii.png
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>>283365574
The scene we need
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I need Yotsugi wife
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>>283365915
Poor Yotsugi, even the wind exposes her
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>>283365957
I want to see her butt!
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>>283366025
We have to do with just a bit of the cheeks for now
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>>283326999
what's a Monstor?
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>>283329298
her name is Field-of-Battle-Field
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>>283330107
>The Rainy Devil
Isn't it literally Tooe's corpse?
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>>283366172
Absolutely not. That thing's been around since long before Kanbaru was even born.
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Hopefully Tsugimonogatari adaptation will give us a full view of the Doll butt. Sad that we will have to wait years for it.
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>>283367374
SHOW HER TUMMY
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>>283366460
I might be misremembering, but didn't something weird happen with Tooe's corpse?
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>>283367374
Nay, Shaft no longer has the stomach for such stunts.
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>>283367464
You should watch Nadeko Draw
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>>283328601
worst hair for worst girl
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>>283367407
You shall be teased first
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Is this show actually worth it?
I see people defending it as some cult masterpiece yet from the outside i just see otaku pandering with higher budget.
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>>283367704
>otaku pandering with higher budget
This is why we love it
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>>283367374
She's laying face-up on an operating table in the scene where she's naked, so no butt.
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>>283367572
You should note the stark differences in the eroticism of Bake, Nise or even Otori compared to Nademono. By the time of Owari the anime had become much safer already.
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>>283367741
But is that enough to justify the popularity of this work? And more importantly, the time i would spend watching this if i decided to do it?
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>>283367768
But do they put clothes on her before or after she is brought to life? I'll admit that I just desperately want to see Yotsugi's ass and hope they find a way even if it is through a quick cut in. Outside of my horniness, I'm probably more curious on how they'll depict all the body parts. Because that sounds a bit too graphic even for a movie.
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>>283367818
The storylines are really weird and unique but always end up good in the end. This is pretty much the most popular thing in Japan, even getting the official Japanese YouTube channel to comment on its newest ED.
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>>283367704
it's good
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>>283360060
She just keeps a bunch of shit on her to weigh her down, and then after she gets her weight back, she doesn't need to.

>>283361948
Okay, so when they used the kids' parts to make the Doll, did they come pre-severed or did they have to break out the ol' hacksaw?
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>>283368002
Ok, but is not finished right?
And on top of that it has a weird watch order?
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>>283368083
It is never going to be finished anon. It is too profitable and beloved. It pretty much single handedly guides multiple anime genres such as moe, ecchi, paranormal, and other otaku stuff. Many tropes originate from it. As for watch order, it isn't that weird. You are probably more confused by the plot jumping back and forth in time. Which works out well and also is honestly fun because it means nothing is truly off the table. If you really love Araragi's highschool years for instance, you never know when Nisio could decide to return to them.
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>>283367818
How could any of us know how much your time is worth?
It's my favorite anime, i go desert island i choose this one because i derive endless enjoyment from its cinematographic tricks and rhythms, sound design, narrative themes and plots, witty dialogues, the minutia of every single character's voice acting (all-stars picked for the show in which characters can hold a 20minute long conversation) and of course the tasteful erotic scenes. We are miles away from some common panty shot fest. The ambiguity of the setting, the texture of this realistic fantasy, the layers of wordplay: i have timed my reactions and any episode activates my neurons and pulls me in within 1:30 minutes.
I'm still not sure what you'd like to see in my post? It's gud animu? It's rude asking others to dance for entertainment as if you were a pacha ready to grace a show with your presence. I think you shouldn't watch it because too many people watch this anime. It should belong to me. Stop watching it.
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>>283368058
Kaiki presumably breaks out the hacksaw, but he does it off-screen so they don't go into much detail about it.
>>283367922
The body parts are mostly in preservation jars and coolers and such whenever they're on-screen. The exception being the feet, which are cleanly taxidermy'd.

And yes, she's naked for the entire scene, despite wearing a dress on the cover.
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>>283368224
It really is hard to describe how engaging Monogatari is and how it does nearly everything better. It just does though.
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>>283367818
>>283368083
>please read my mind and tell me if I'll like this anime
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>>283368654
I can and can tell that he will like it
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>>283368382
Not everything. Most of the time the image is not even animated but the 2D cameraman moves the shots in crazy ways and succeeds at imparting action to the scenes which is otherwise just not there. Get fooled by the movie magic.
The books aren't perfectly adapted either. Understanding of japanese is too strongly recommended and too much is lost in translation.
I have stockholm's for the CG backgrounds, they were an intelligent stylish decision but they do be jarring at first.
Heavy referential humor might not be in vogue in 2025, narrative structure copied from the Haruhi anime.

Reminder for the Hidamarifriends than Hanamono depicts Yuno sex-assaulting Landlady.
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>>283365231
Senjougahara is great but she's unironically handicapped because she is the winner.
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>>283368926
I personally never found the cgi backgrounds that off-putting. But maybe that is because I'm a zoomer who grew up with shows that had some really scuffed cgi in them.
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>>283369015
In monogatari there's usually more going on than just showing shitty cgi backgrounds
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>>283368976
It would be interesting to see how things would be different if she was still doing the whole yandere thing throughout more of the series. I imagine something like Nadeko snaking out may be more directly her fault (although I still think Shinobu would be what would push Nadeko over the edge). I could also imagine funny gags with her finding him with the loli trio or even Gaen/Kagenui. Hitagi End could've been made more meaningful for Hitagi, showing the deepness of her love. Rendezvous could be more interesting by potentially having her and Araragi pair there.
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>>283368654
I'm just asking because it looks like one of those shitty harem LN adaptations but with higher budget, the only thing i know about it is that infamous toohtbrush scene and some backgrounds looking like something straight out of Utena.
I'm interested but at the same time i have the feeling that is going to be a clusterfuck of "deconstructing" anime cliches but not really while having convoluted light speed dialogue just to look smart a la Tatami Galaxy.
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>>283368976
Redditgahara
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>>283369171
Deconstructing is just a buzzword that is often erroneously applied to things by psueds. Monogatari is different and odd, but it never feels pretentious. It is, in fact, quite honest as far as media goes. It just does what is entertaining. As for dialogue, it isn't that hard to understand. If you do miss it, while you'd miss out on a piece, there is more still. Any given scene is layered with so many different gags and details. Both from the author and from additional stuff the studio adds. It is pretty much impossible you won't be picking up on something.
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Humiliating Shinobu by making her snowball my load every day
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>>283369171
Bakemonogatari was something the author wrote for fun between his other novels and didn't even intend to release publicly. It's very much unfiltered "This is what the Nisio thinks is funny/thought provoking" without any real worrying about whether the audience would like it.

If you share his tastes, you'll like it. If you don't, you won't.
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>>283369347
The jokes on you, she has a fetish for humiliation. She wouldn't put up with being a loli slave and wearing no panties if she didn't.
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>>283369015
The backgrounds were so stylized because still images was all they could afford if they wanted to maintain high bursts of animation.
Didn't stop anyone from endlessly complaining about the nonsense of these backgrounds. Today they are quaint and their graphic design can be appreciated, 15 years ago they were lazy shit, copypasted in blender and not anime.

>>283369060
They keep the focus solely on the speaking characters and remove distractions. Just surrealist visuals in unison with the surrealist dialogue and plot while saving budget at the same time. Mistakes into miracles, bugs are features, deliver on time using this one genius trick.
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>>283369171
It has fun with genre cliches but it's far too tongue in cheek to ever take itself super seriously. Like it's hard to consider it snobbish in any way with the amount of tits and ass waved in the audience's face, and that's probably what the animators intended with the fanservice as well, to defuse the pretentiousness through making the show abrasively crass to the pretentious audience.
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>>283369283
Araragi's a deconstructed hero. He's a monster and he hides it well. He declaws his cats and lies about it online, is that our guy Gary Harem? No he was a modern young man neurotic and unaccountable in a deliberate calculating way.
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>>283370230
I do agree with this in a way. There are interesting layers with Araragi with what he hides from who. Captures the feeling of helping out someone and winning their praises and then fapping to lolis later that day in private.
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>>283369914
I wonder how many noticed these bottles were cgi even when trying to stare right at them.
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>>283369978
It tends to do a show or a game a lot of good for it to have one really abrasive aspect because that one aspect tends to keep away all the right people.
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>>283372004
On the other hand, it often does the opposite and draws in people who ONLY like the show for that aspect. Monogatari, for example, has a ton of retards who come for the toothbrush scene and only really care about the dirty humor. Which is probably better than normalfags, but still obnoxious.
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My favorite part of Monogatari is the dirty humor.
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Say something BOLD about Hachikuji
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>>283373067
I don't want to smell her hair. I don't want to stroke her stomach. I don't want to hug her. I don't want to marry her and spend the rest of our lives together.

I'm not a lolicon, only a lolicon would want that.
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>>283373430
Well, hang on, hugging is fine.
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>>283369171
It comes off as very pretentious if you're looking at the individual pieces and not the whole. In reality, it's the type of series where they'll gloss over an important plot point with two lines of dialog, then spend 10 minutes talking about the author's shower thoughts because that's what he was more interested in writing about that day. Or constantly make bad puns during dramatic scenes because the author felt the puns were more important than the plot. Or a character who isn't in the book otherwise will randomly appear for one chapter because he wasn't really sure what to write next.

Monogatari looks like it has pretense, but it has none. The author very much keeps his feet on the ground at all times, never forgetting that it's just something he writes for fun. Hell, in a later book he basically goes "actually, this story was supposed to be a two-parter, but I finished it in one book. I had to put something in the second book, so I decided to write a breather story. Here's 200 pages of Nadeko running around on a desert island naked."
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>>283373603
>Here's 200 pages of Nadeko running around on a desert island naked.
Beautiful, I love Nisio and can't wait for Shaft to adapt this in particular.
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Mayoi laying on a table with a towel on top of her nude body. On the bottom there is a hole for your face. But she is laying both on her back and upside down. So her butt sticks through the hole.
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>>283373067
That she is the only girl to escape Nisio's scissors is...remarkable.
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>>283373067
i watched she show because i thought she was hot
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>>283374097
The JS trio...
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>>283373067
her adult version is superior
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>>283365231
How can Crab be on such good terms with the previous crush of her boyfriend, who also happened to have a crush on him, too? Wouldn't it be incredibly awkward?
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>>283374381
Adult Hachikuji is so precious.
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>>283374381
It is kind of sad seeing how happy and complete she would've grown up to be. Especially considering that she ended up surviving a deadly apocalypse while being very close to the center of it. The car took it all away from her though.
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>>283326999
I always thought that people were exaggerating when they said that you NEED to understand Japanese to fully enjoy Monogatari but after learning Japanese
Hey fuck this language, somehow 3 different words can have the same meaning and some words can mean three different sentences
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>>283374845
Are those kanji cards? I always thought the best method to learn Japanese past simple knowledge of kana and grammer would be to use cards to learn the useful kanji. Then read progressively harder manga, learning words along the way.
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>>283374845
I don't think this is true for the anime. It helps being familiar enough with Japanese to understand some Kanji puns if they get explained but weird old school references are definitely harder to get.
If we are talking about the novels though then yeah, you kinda need Japanese to fully appreciate those because they do kick it up a notch even if in just sheer volume.
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>>283374845
>1000 cards
>learning
Oh my sweet sweet little summer babe
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>>283368224
>99% Nise and Neko-kuro.
I do miss this level of fanservice later on ngl.
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>>283375510
For me, it is Mayoi panties. Which were lacking in Nise, and only made a comeback years later in Owari.
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>>283375571
I can't sustain myself on kiddie panties anon.
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>>283373479
Glad to hear

https://files.catbox.moe/jty6xs.mp4
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>>283375735
Nice and wholesome. Also like the little peak through the unbuttoned pants.
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>>283375603
Do we ever see Monkey in panties? The way spats hug her goods is hot, but seeing her in underwear could be interesting.
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>>283375983
Don't think we do. Spats = underwear for Monkey and she does most of her sleeping or chilling alone in the nude.
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>>283375735
dangerously smug snail
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>>283376041
Yeah I've always assumed it's spats or nothing for her
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Hey to the anon who posted that Shinobu webm on /v/ a few hours ago, if you're lurking here I'd really appreciate the catbox link if you have it, I didn't think to save it before it got 404'd
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>>283378442
What do we think she's rocking here?
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>>283378504
nta, but I assume you mean this one?
https://catbox.moe/c/tdy72n
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>>283378558
Kinda cute
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>>283378558
Yeah that's it, thanks
I forgot there was a new gallery, I was looking at the old one
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>>283378558
not enough Hanekawa
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>>283378599
the old one is on exhentai now
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>>283378607
I am lacking in cat, black cat, hitagi and medusa nadeko stuff. There's some in my backlog but I just never got around to editing them.

https://files.catbox.moe/f8ulge.png
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>>283378713
Needs more long hair Kanbaru as well.
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Need lolinobu to lock me up in chastity and make me cum hands free daily.
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>>283349723
Well, I'll be. It really is light black/grey. All this time I thought her hair was pink.
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>>283379756
>All this time I thought her hair was pink
Wtf are you talking about anon?
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>>283379791
I'm saying I though her hair was pink. I have protanomaly. Light cyan and white, blue and purple, green and brown. These are pairs with identical colors for me. Her hair is the same color as pink for me, so I thought it was pink all this time.
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>>283379822
What made you see the truth?
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>>283378558

are these NAI or local?
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>>283379822
Her nipples are pink
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>>283326999
I like it but then they'd have to do that for the rest of the titles, some of which are name puns too. And honestly I'd welcome them to try it
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>>283379849
The #CCCCCC (>>283379756)
All one letter means white, grey, black.
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>>283380467
I meant what made you suspicious that it wasn't pink in the first place.
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>>283380604
Anon just found out and mentioned it: >>283349679
That triggered me to check.
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>>283380627
Oh I thought you were the same person. Two colorblind anons would be funny.
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>>283379822
Does this cause you problems in daily life that most people don't realize?
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>>283380698
No? I don't think so. I've never had any serious problems. If there's ever a color I need identified I could always just ask.
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>>283380902
Beautiful dreamer
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>>283379094
On Halloween
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>>283381541
W-what....
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I remember now, it was Travestory. That was the one that sounded so cool.
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>>283381658
There will be a JC, she gonna take your peen
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>>283380647
Math is hard. Am brainlet. She would never like me.
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>>283382747
She'd view you as the perfect vessel to teach. Allowing her to feel even more confident in her skills. She'd love you even more and probably regularly reward you with sex. Reward sex with Sodachi in the attic...
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>>283382747
She wouldn't care methinks.
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>>283326999
mono means one, and gatari means gatari
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Only I can hug her
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>>283383001
She's Araraging
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>>283383124
Into a beautiful woman
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>>283383184
That's a really nice picture of her. It's like she's blooming out of the white and goes into the foreground.
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>>283382081
What is she going to do with it once she takes it?
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>>283383453
Some anon said he drew it himself
It is a really pretty pic
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>>283379948
Local
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>>283383474
She'll give you a good old Halloween jack
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>>283384286
>I was filtered
All I can say is that you get used to it. That said I was never one to try hard to like something that doesn't vibe with me. It's a very well liked anime obviously but kino can be subjective.
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Monogatari is always worth another shot
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>>283383838
what model/lora? or is it all inpainting?
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>>283380647
About 8% of all men have some kind of red-green colour blindness, so it would make sense that a few people in this thread have it, with me now atleast 3.

>>283380698
For me personaly it is most notacable when playing paradox videogames. Sometimes i also have trouble matching the colours in my outfit (This could however also be explained by my lack off fashion sense). I only found out because i had to to the dot tests as a kid.
My Grandpa however has a pretty strong red green blindness and cant differentiate shades of these colours at all.
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Don't lewd the snake
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>>283384883
Imagine if she wasn't wearing anything under this jacket
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>>283384984
I said don't
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>>283384679
EasyMIX XL and mostly artegris's loras. no inpainting
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>>283385042
Then why does she keep getting more and more naked?
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>>283384286
I actually dropped it on the first ep. Came back months or years later, and absolutely loved it once I made it past the first ep. I'm up to date on everything and downloaded all the episodes iirc.

If you watch eps 2 and 3 and still can't stomach it, then Idk.
>>283384875
>when playing paradox videogames
Oh, right, forgot about stuff like that. Some games I have problems with due to color, but some have a cb mode, so it's sometimes ok.
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>>283385452
It's artistic, definitely has nothing to do with turning on anons...
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>>283385452
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>>283386030
I like how everything falls in line to justify Nadeko continuing to get into lewder scenarios. From the moment she was introduced and had to strip down. Now she is told that continuing it is in fact growth. Soon she'll end up naked on an island. Truly narrative beauty.
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>>283386124
Opening up to others is just another form of exposing yourself... a snake has to shed its skin to grow...
This is the work of the master, Nisio Isin-sensei
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Sigh... Time for a rewatch. I only remember Kaiki being literally me so now i have to remind myself why is that.
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>>283386800
Kaiki is an eternal chunni but actually cool.
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>>283386800
Is this from the official manga?
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>>283386202
'Loomer or mizu, which is lewder...
One is practically naked while the other clings every area of the same naked body.
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>>283387230
Bloomers are clearly the answer
But I'm open to being persuaded
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>>283387405
Topless with bloomers is really the right way
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>>283387405
She looks so happy to be browsing around
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>>283334718
That name is jew
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>>283388288
For this behavior I'm gonna give her a little spank on that exposed bare ass
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>>283388325
Kaiki is the one with the Jewish name
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>>283388338
Her lyrics would melt you
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>>283388378
I'm just thinking about Mayoi's butthole
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>>283388490
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>>283389455
I can see where you gave up anon
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>>283389474
you never have to give up if you never try in the first place
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>>283384984
She's already not wearing anything under the shirt.
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My mangaka bride
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>>283390255
Nadeko is the type to draw a character completely based off of herself and then give her a lot of nude scenes where she shows off as much as she can.
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>>283390486
She likes cudling with me naked
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>>283391007
cute feet



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