>>283364057
Helps reduce taxes

>>283364057
frame it in reverse.
Why should scum that's already been punished be kept alive?
It's a waste of recources.

In feudal Japan, it was common to test blades on criminals sentenced to death. Either way, the corpses were mutilated and displayed afterward as an example to the others.

>>283364178
Because not every crime carries capital punishment? You said yourself, they've already been punished. Society has already judged them and justice has been served. If killing them was their just punishment, there would be no need for Kira to act.

Because he wanted to purify the world as the new god, did you people even watch the show

>>283364057
They weren't all in prison and he didn't only go after criminals.

>>283364704
>Because not every crime carries capital punishment
It's more expensive (in "civilized" societies at least) to execute prisoners than to keep them locked up permanently. It would save tons of money to be able to kill them without all the bureaucratic nonsense.

>>283364934
>did you people even watch the show
Do you need to ask? People Google Light Yagami and think he was trying to kill criminals only.

99% of Death Note threads are just some retard not understanding something that was explained in the show and calling Light an idiot for it

They are already in prison they aren't going anywhere.
So why should i even care what kira does with them?

>>283364057
Read the manga / watch the show, and you will know what Light was trying to do.

>>283365181
You think there'd be no bureaucracy involved if prisoners started dying en masse? Are you retarded? If anything it'd be an order of magnitude more costly and the damages would be immediate rather than over several decades, which would only make it worse.

>>283364057
Sends a message retard.
It signals that no matter the crime, it's the death penalty.

>>283364057
When will you retards realize that Light's goal wasn't to purify the world by actually killing every single criminal one by one, that would be impossible; everything he did was to send a message, that a god would kill you even if you were already arrested. That would deter most potential criminals, specially ones that were planning on committing a petty crimes, since those have some reassurance if things go bad, thinking their sentences won't be that severe, but with Kira's punishment, they wouldn't even think of doing anything.

>>283366679
Pretty dumb message, DESU. We know for a fact that after a surprisingly low level of severity, harsher punishments stop meaningfully deterring crime more than less harsh ones.
It doesn't matter if you make the penalty for shoplifting that you wipe out the person's entire bloodline unto seven generations if the shoplifter *doesn't think they will be caught*, thus making the punishment not a factor in their mind. Very few people expect to ever face the punishment, no matter how extreme you make it.

>>283366930
The Japanese are capable of thinking 5 minutes ahead.

>>283366989
Accept that you are in the same camp as people who want to use torture despite knowing that it is not effective at extracting useful information but because you just wanna do it.

Prisoners are basically used for slave labor, why would you murder free labor?

Well whatever light was a dictator with a weapon literally made for dictatorship even if his plan was dumb no one could question it otherwise.

Light wants to be considered God.
His idea of himself as God doesn't care about any judgment or existing punishment or justice that humans have passed down, so he sees that they're sinners and destroys them. There's no practicality to it, it's all for the sake of his image and ego.

>>283367039
Torture is inhumane bro, stop projecting.

>>283364153
if the story was in real life the government would stall the investigation and let the prisons empty out

He's a mentally ill fag and control freak. Nothing else to it.

>>283367084
His plan was doable precisely because he could fool people into thinking that his will is god's will.

the idea would be that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Light doesnt exactly respect the justice system, the world is rotten partly because they fail to kill people who deserve it I guess.

your god starts killing people who in his mind deserve it the most, theres all the baggage of judging it from his limited pov, his culture, what he wants the justice system to accomplish, his ethnonationalistic policies. He decides murder is the worst crime, but that includes desire for the public to agree with him. If he lived in homers time he'd prob start killing people who steal other peoples wives or some shit because the public thinks warriors killing others are hot shit.

Then when he runs out of murderers and made the world a better place he still needs to do his function because to keep making the world better you need to kill people who committed lesser crimes.
If he stopped at some point there story would have no point, it'd be just a story about a society that decided to murder all murderers and thats not interesting or special.

>>283367135
Wrong, the practicality comes from having people believe his will, his justice is the will of a god so everyone would take it seriously.

>>283364057
Because prisons are a meme originally meant for political enemies. We have abitrary murderers that are sentenced to 10-25y around the world. Such people should never be forgiven; and certainly not allowed back in society.
Theft=hand
Adultery=exile
Rape=castration
Repeat petty crimes=rope
Murder=death
Those used to be the rules and it created fear which worked as deterrent.
The author didn't believe in prison system either, so he had Kira kill them.

>>283364057
Honestly the prisoners are actually the only ones justified to kill.
He started losing me when he killed non prisoners.

I highly doubt Light had enough physical strength to write down the names of all the criminals in the USA, much less all the central and south American countries. This story only makes sense in Japan because Japan has so few criminals that's physically feasible to write down almost all their names.

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>>283365234
The Lind L Tailor thing in episode 2 was a great hook at the time that got many people invested in the series but 20 years later people just say "Uwaaa Light is so stupid for falling for such obvious bait" as if they weren't fooled too back in the day

>>283367339
the idea of a guy using magic to kill you would have a chilling effect
but
the mechanics of the note holder to acquire criminal names to punish was always the biggest plot hole
how many 100% murderers are there whose face and name are known but they've never been given a sentence? Not a lot, they're probably classified as terrorists by the idf

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>>283367339
He was killing people across the world and they stated that he killed more people in us then Japan. Whether or not he's able to kill every single one of them is not important what's important is that he creates an impression that a supernatural force is out to judge and kill humans accordingly.

>>283367430
Well he wasn't just going after murders but people he deemed evil although he would avoid killing people who commited minor crimes.

>>283366930
The difference here is that it's a super natural power that is bringing out the punishment, signaling that no matter the place, no matter who you are, you can get smitten by god.

>>283364057
Not counting what his real intentions were?
Recidivism isn't punished as hard as it should be
Certain crimes shouldn't carry a life sentence or preferably capital punishment, yet they don't
There are a myriad of instances around the world where people get light punishments (or scot-free) because the judges are retarder/corrupt
Keeping them around punishes the victim and also the nation, by wasting resources on what should've been a direct trip to the slammer. A heart attack is simple, wastes but the ink you used to write on the Death Note, and that's it
Sure, bureaucratic problems would suffice, but if the existence of the book wasn't kept a secret, it would expedite that process too

>>283364057
It's not about the taxes
It's about sending a message

>>283366930
The 13% not being able to think about the consequences of their actions is an exception to the rule.

>>283364057
The idea is "crime = death penalty"
Which is pretty retarded cause every single data shows that crime rate won't decrease if you increase the punishment. For criminals it doesnt matter if they're in prison for 30, 40 or 50 years. Or 50 years in prison vs death penalty.
Thats why the most effective way to decrease crime rate is to decrease poverty and help mentally ill retards

>>283368150
No, first Light wasn't simply consernd with criminals but people he considered evil and secondly Light was conting on his god status/religion to bring about change and not just the killings.

>>283368150
>Which is pretty retarded cause every single data shows that crime rate won't decrease if you increase the punishment.
Except that one country that just arrested everyone that looked like a gang member suddenly becoming 1000% safer and all crimes plummeting but we dont talk about that.

>>283367359
>Uwaaa Light is so stupid for falling for such obvious bait
I used to think like this until I reread the series last time it was storytime'd, and it made way more sense now. For some reason I remembered Light being actually smart and stoic for most of the story, but now reading it as adult he just comes off as a pathetic overemotional coping loser. I haven't watched a lot of the anime, but I hear it made Light way more cool and sympathetic. Whenever I see people say he did nothing wrong I assume they only watched the anime, I don't know how anyone can read the story and not think he was supposed to be a despicable asshole from the very beginning.

>>283364178
Japan is notorious for falsely accusing people to make the police look good/reliable.

>>283368971
The sympathy largely comes from the fact that he was able to stop wars and reduce global crime rate by 70% and the only way to bring him to justice to bring war and instabilty to much of the world. Also his flaws made people root for him more not less sence he emded up coming accross as more human in comparison to his oponents.

>>283368150
retard alert!

>light LITERALLY explains his plan, methods and philosophy as soon as he uses the death note
>somehow his motivations are still a mystery

I always thought that it would be interesting for Light to use the Death Note to force confessions. If he wrote down "This Alameddine/ N'Dragheta/ Ngyuen crime family member confesses to the police every crime he has a witness to and died of a heart attack after his confession was recorded." Something that would really scare criminals, endear himself to the police and to create divisions within the police force. Maybe he could uncover corruption within the police force and the death note hurts the legal system as the police are hampered with their efforts to act as a unified force.
Either that or a short side story about real estate developers putting up photos of local criminals living in public housing and collecting evidence of all their crimes. They sort of did that with the bullied kid, but seeing people try to commercialise Light's justice could be a cool angle.

>>283369142
>the fact that he was able to stop wars
This really annoys me, it was dropped in at the very end and it never really gets elaborated much on for how big of an event this would be.

>Also his flaws made people root for him more not less sence he emded up coming accross as more human in comparison to his oponents

I don't know what version of the story you saw, but he openly mocked an innocent woman as he brainwashed her into suicide. The most humanity he ever shows is crying bitch tears while complaining about how society doesn't get him.

L was a weirdo autist, Near was a smug douchebag, and Mellow was a bratty child, all were way more human flaws than being an uncaring sociopath like Light.

>>283368819
>arrest 90% of the people that live in a country
>"huh no crimes? what is this magic?"

>>283369406
woah he's literally me

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>>283364057
>For justice.

>>283369406
>This really annoys me, it was dropped in at the very end and it never really gets elaborated much on for how big of an event this would be.
It happend during the time gap in between the first half of the story and the second, the authour didn't want to focus to much on the world building.
>I don't know what version of the story you saw, but he openly mocked an innocent woman as he brainwashed her into suicide. The most humanity he ever shows is crying bitch tears while complaining about how society doesn't get him.
Light was often in suspenseful situation that had him sweating bullets, to me (and many others) his humanity shined through in little moment like when he wrote Higuchi's name and had to wait for him to die before he could fully regain his memories and he this little moment where he commented "this has to be the longest 40 seconds of my life". Little moments like those are what made Light so cool to people like me.
>L was a weirdo autist, Near was a smug douchebag, and Mellow was a bratty child, all were way more human flaws than being an uncaring sociopath like Light.
I disagree, they came across as a bit mysterious and hard to read. Light's inner monologue would reveal not just what he thought but how he felt while L's and Near's would only reveal what they thought.

>>283364057
Light was literally just making himself easy to caught, I'm using the word LITERALLY correctly here, he literally was doing that at the beginning to make himself noticed by the entire world, one of the 1837489137 times Light acted like a retard during this series.

>>283364704
But thats not the purpose of prison. Prison is neither a place of reformation or retribution, its just to remove criminals from the population.

Arguable the death penalty is kinder than life in prison. Light is doing society and the criminals themselves a favor by killing them quickly and getting it over with.

>>283369839
He's not being a retard, he's being a boastful egomaniac

>>283366930
>We know for a fact that after a surprisingly low level of severity, harsher punishments stop meaningfully deterring crime more than less harsh ones.
This is entirely false. For example, if you cut off the hand of everyone that was caught stealing you'd make every thief think twice.

This might be true only in civilized countries but the threat of cruel punishments is a great deterrent. That was the only issue with lights scheme. He should have often made the most bad criminals die in the most agonizing ways he could imagine.

>>283367039
>torture is not effective at extracting information
source?

>>283369411
>arrest and punish harshely all the criminals in the country
>crime drops dramatically
Oh but it goes against the "data" that apparently exists somewhere and has actually explored every correlation of crime and punishment rather than being something stupid like "look the death penalty(in which death row inmates remain in death row for decades) in this majority urban black community only decreased crime by 2%"

>>283370097
Anon, they didn't just make the punishment worse. They just put literally everyone in prison. Even innocent people. Do you really think its some kind of mastermind chess move that this would decrease the crime rate?
Btw I never said punishment has no effect at all on (You). The effect decreases. Thats the entire point. If you kill people for stealing chewing gum they won't take the risk. I thought people with a brain knew that already

>>283366549
>damages would be immediate rather than over several decades
anon keeping prisoners in prison indefinitely doesn't let them keep contributing to society

>>283370421
>Even innocent people
I daresay not even 1% is innocent. And it's still a price worth paying given the fact that El Salvador stopped being a murder capital

You can argue that all he really cared about is his god complex but it's really funny how incredibly stupid Light's plan is for its supposed goal of delivering justice even if you believe in the death penalty. All he essentially did was replace any due process (as flawed as those things already are) with the judgement a high-schooler made with a cursory google search. It would become clear really fast that
a) he must be killing at least some innocent people
and
b) crimes that weren't publicized or investigated by the police didn't get punished by him

>>283364057
Haven't you seen in Britain where they let out mohammed on good behaviour then he kills or rapes a white girl, I think there is good justification for killing them before they commit their next crime

>>283364704
Except Kira is usually targeting the worst criminal offenders, the ones who do deserve to die. Killing people investigating him is still retarded

>>283366930
>They think they will not get caught
Those retards especially need to be removed from the gene pool

>>283371962
Yeah and once they leave these concentration camps they will start being criminals. Good job

>>283372149
No what he did was create a world where people didn't just beleave in a god they knew he exists and his role was to actively guide humanity both moraly and legaly.
>It would become clear really fast that
a) he must be killing at least some innocent people
It would because people would just assume that he was evil regardless.
>crimes that weren't publicized or investigated by the police didn't get punished by him
As the story went on Light had more ways of finding info on this stuff also he didn't just go after criminals.

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>>283369085
You say like that other countries including yours don't do the same.

>>283372528
Maybe but that doesn't exactly help Light's case

>>283364057
Helps reinforce the message. Overall, it's really not that bad of a plan. He just got too cocky and was faced with bullshit magical detective skills.

>>283369328
Just imagine all the mind games he could make by ordering corrupt politicians and mob bosses to do x, y and z. It's a shame the author didn't explore this potential.

>>283368150
>thinking that crime is because of lack of education and socio-economic factors instead of innate characteristics
Justice serves to satisfy the victims, the deter predators, and to keep undesireables out of the population. You cannot rehabilitate criminals, you mistake an effect for a cause, socio-economic conditions is an EFFECT of innate characteristics such as violent tendencies and IQ. Populations which are violent and stupid lead to shitty socio-economic conditions. Education does not remedy this, programz do not remedy this. This is not to say that people cannot end up in bad economic situations due to factors outside themself, but these bad economic situations do not cause them to become violent career criminals, at best they will commit petty crime. I do not get how retards still parrot this dogma you espouse like it's a religion, blank slate is false, innate characteristics exist, not everything is due to the environment.

>>283373289
>>283368150
and btw your viewpoint is the establishment view on how to deal with criminals and we can see how well that works. Meanwhile el salvador just put all their subhumans in prison and the crime rate drops massively, as expected. Yes, there are problems with this approach as there is with everything, but it's infinitely better than your retarded suggestion of the repeatedly parroted suggestion of muh socio-economic condition and education. El salvador satisfies the 3 criteria for justice I mentioned, to satisfy the victims, to deter predators, and to keep undesirables out of the population, and it works. That's what actually stops crime, there is no compromise or negotiation with subhumans.

>>283373289
>You cannot rehabilitate criminals
Yes you can. The nordic states literally do that right now. Finland takes care of the people and the criminals cause they believe in resocialization. Meanwhile countries that don't have twice as many crimes

>>283373443
You don't think there's a different common denominator between certain countries with low crime rates like RACE? These countries never had a problem with crime in the first place because their people are not violent orcs, until relatively recently of course. What you need to prove what you say works is an example of a place widely implementing rehabilitative policies in their prison system and that leading to a drastic reduction in crime. Otherwise the only thing your ideas lead to is this >>283373510, the sacrifice of innocents on the altar of your insane blank slate, color blind ideology.

>>283369142
>more human in comparison to his oponents.

>>283373653
Yes, more human dosen't mean more good or moral.

>>283373592
Norway takes lots of refugees but unlike Sweden they actually take care of them. The result is that Norway has almost half the crime rate that Sweden has.
The problem isnt the race but the fact that these people are traumatized retards with no money. They come in a new country and no one takes care of them. Obviously they'll commit crimes.

>>283364057
Light's #1 goal at all times was ego-tripping and he took shortcuts at every opportunity. Killing a man in prison means all the work is already done for him: identification & judgement. Killing those who escaped justice would take effort he didn't want to spend and could be misconstrued by those who questioned if the murdered was truly guilty. Despite being an edgy chuuni with a tender ego Light has the most normalfaggy morality and obeys popular opinion on who is and isn't guilty. There isn't a single scene of him sparing a convict because he believes the man to be wrongly convicted. He's one of these retards who thinks the purpose of prison is to torture the subhuman refuse of society while likely being confused countries with nicer prisons have less recidivism.

>>283372528
Not every country is notorious for it to the point that multiple video games were made about the fact.

>>283373891
>Killing those who escaped justice would take effort he didn't want to spend and could be misconstrued by those who questioned if the murdered was truly guilty
No he was killing people in and out of prison plus he wasn't only going after criminals.
>Despite being an edgy chuuni with a tender ego Light has the most normalfaggy morality and obeys popular opinion on who is and isn't guilty.
No he doesn't.
>There isn't a single scene of him sparing a convict because he believes the man to be wrongly convicted.
Because the vast majority of his killings take place off screen so you would never know if such a thing happend.
>He's one of these retards who thinks the purpose of prison is to torture the subhuman refuse of society while likely being confused countries with nicer prisons have less recidivism.
No he beleaves in using the death note to position himself as a god like figure who will determine what is good and legal. Also you can only have nice prisons if you have low crime rate in the first place.

>>283364057
Light's an attention whore. That's the whole point.

>>283372149
>it would become clear really fast that he must be killing at least some innocent people
So? I don't see the problem when you consider that:
a) The margin is low and
b) The ones at fault are the police and the justice system
Hell, he ended up killing that many innocent people, it would only help to showcase how broken the system is, which only helps Light's case: the police and the judicial system leave innocents to rot in prison.
>crimes that weren't publicized or investigated by the police didn't get punished by him
Again, proves the point that shit's broken. They either don't provide enough resources that would help the agencies investigate, or they're covering it up, which shouldn't happen in the first place, and demonstrates levels of corruption that shouldn't be allowed.
I do think he fucked up (or the writer did) by not doing something like this >>283369328 or by making them confess if they were innocent or guilty, and if the latter, what they were guilty of, including shit that hadn't been discovered/taken into account.

>>283368819
Apart from the gang bosses who get the comfy prison cells they make phone calls out of and the recordings showing the prez as mayor cutting deals to reduce gang violence by not prosecuting or investigating the higher ups.

>>283374769
>So? I don't see the problem when you consider that:
>a) The margin is low and
>b) The ones at fault are the police and the justice system
>Hell, he ended up killing that many innocent people, it would only help to showcase how broken the system is, which only helps Light's case: the police and the judicial system leave innocents to rot in prison.
Whether the margin is low is questionable and either way that's not remotely what Light is trying to do. His goal isn't to reform the justice system or police and it would be strange to blame those institutions for Light haphazardly denying people the due process they might have otherwise received.
What Light wants to deter crime by establishing in peoples mind that any crime will be punished harshly by the superior being that is Kira. However he still needs to punish the right people. Even a few cases where his judgement is wrong would very much undermine his just authority in people's mind.
>Again, proves the point that shit's broken. They either don't provide enough resources that would help the agencies investigate, or they're covering it up, which shouldn't happen in the first place, and demonstrates levels of corruption that shouldn't be allowed.
Yeah, but Light is doing nothing to fix that is my point. Killing people is the easy part. Yeah, if he was using his powers to actually SOLVE cases like that guy suggested his plan might have been better but that's not really what Light is doing.

Death penalty is retarded, imagine wanting the state to have even more power.

>>283364057
To put the fear of God into humanity.

>>283364057
It really is hilarious how much of a stooge light was, only killing criminals who've already been caught, while people like epstein would've never had their name written down. Truly shows you what his real goal was, it was never about justice.

>>283374876
>reduces gang violence
isn't this a good thing

I didn't really get how Near caught Light
>dude we forged a death note and uhhhh

>>283376952
Light would've gotten Japan nuked if he started going after political elites. Therein is another tragedy of his character, because he was so preoccupied with not getting caught and establishing himself as a deity, that his worldview never matured past his highschool self.

>>283364057
What if Light won in the end?

every poster itt calling for the death penalty for any petty crime would all be sentenced to death for torrenting the shows they watch btw way

>>283378096
Knowing how the Japanese get about copyright, niggas would get Kira'd for reposting art without asking

>>283364934
As a death note fan, I do plan on watching one of these days.

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>>283373853
>The problem isnt the race but the fact that these people are traumatized retards with no money. They come in a new country and no one takes care of them. Obviously they'll commit crimes.

>>283364057
Freeing up state resources so hard to track criminals can be apprehended faster.

>>283368819
That's not "increasing the punishment". That's just randomly locking up a bunch of people.

>>283364057
I point out that in the UK, we just let a rapist illegal immigrant moonwalk out of the door. We just barely managed to recapture him after a two-day manhunt.
If Light killed everyone in jail, it would be a huge strain off society. It's like how death row convicts take forever to actually be executed.
He would be cutting the red tape.

>>283366930
Well, consider how Singapore has the death penalty for drug-smuggling. They don't have a opioid problem to the same degree as other countries, because all but the most stupid mules know that drug-smuggling is death.
Presumably that clears out 80% of the traffickers.

>>283367449
The biggest plot hole will always be the investigators treating Kira as an individual when he was killing people in different countries daily. This makes sense once they know he has literal magical powers, but not at all before.

>>283367243
>power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely
Wrong, thats retarded. Corrupted individuals just gravitate towards power. Kira just happened to be an asshole, plenty of people wouldn't have killed anyone using the damn notepad.

>>283378535
>no counter argument
He won, you lost. Ez. Back to pol you go.

>>283369968
>cut off the hand of everyone that was caught stealing
>you'd make every thief think twice.
>They wouldn't have to think about the third time, because they only have two hands.

Light is stupid

>>283378978
To be honest the way L instantly figured out kira was in japan is bs if he was killing criminals in other countries.
I understand the first crime started there, but going from that to "kira is a Japanese student" is pure plot bs.

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>>283379019
>pol

>>283364057
Light was explicitly selective about who he killed. The corporate Kira he used to forge an alibi wasn't as discerning. That was a factor in L doubting Light's exoneration from the fake rules.

>>283366930
Increasing punishment severity does lose efficacy quickly, but increasing certainty of being caught and punished keeps working. Pretty weird psychology, but how you decrease expected value for morons matters. If Light became a legend for idiots as a supernatural force that will always punish evildoers, it could be effective.
But Light was doing everything for his ego, anyway.

>>283379308
Yeah. My headcanon is it was an educated guess by L, and that if there was no response from the Kanto broadcast, he'd make broadcasts to other regions and countries.

>>283375570
>His goal isn't to reform the justice system or police
It is, Light's goal is to remake the world into his own image and part of that would include changes to the police and justice system.
>What Light wants to deter crime by establishing in peoples mind that any crime will be punished harshly by the superior being that is Kira
More importantly he wants to use his god status to influence both law and morality for all of mankind.
>However he still needs to punish the right people. Even a few cases where his judgement is wrong would very much undermine his just authority in people's mind.
No because even if he kills someone innocent people will still assume that he's guilty of something else, he only needs to get most of them right.
>>283376952
>It really is hilarious how much of a stooge light was, only killing criminals who've already been caught
He was killing people in and out of prison and didn't only go after criminals.

>>283369085
Wait, japanese cops are the one who arrested a random civilian on the street for assassinating their big pharma CEO?

>>283370421
>innocent people
Source?
>they arrested everyone
Source?

>>283373443
>The nordic states literally do that right now
So why isn't Breivik a free man yet?

>>283380131
You've misunderstood lights objective he had no interest in changing law and government. His focus was entirely social. He wants people to follow his morality system but because you are clearly a dumb ass you literally can't see the difference between politics and morality.

>>283380477
>You've misunderstood lights objective he had no interest in changing law and government
Yes he does, during the second half of the story they talked about how Kira will be enforcing his own law on the world. Both law and morality are important to him because his goal is to create a new world ruled by him.

>>283372149
His plan wasn't actually to deliver justice, it was to put the fear of God into would-be criminals to prevent further crimes.

>crimes that weren't publicized or investigated by the police didn't get punished by him
and what, exactly, was he supposed to do about that?

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>>283378978
ICPO did suggest it could be the works of a large origanization and some suggested the FBI or CIA
>>283379308
like this anon said >>283379474 it was just a guess and L wouldn't have lost much by trying to see if he got a response.
>>283379474
>and that if there was no response from the Kanto broadcast, he'd make broadcasts to other regions and countries.
that's not a headcanon that's actually what happened

>>283379474
That isn't your headcanon, that is literally what is spelled out by L in the very dialog that you are referencing. That was the plan.

>>283381970
forgot to add that the biggest plot hole thing was L mocking Light for it, since there was no reason to believe at that point that Kira couldn't just pack things and leave

>>283379308
>I understand the first crime started there
the thing is that not only was it the first criminal to die from a heart attack, it's crime was just a scandalous but otherwise minor local crime. Remember that after him and the motorcycle guy Light began killing the worst of the worst worldwide for 5 days straight

>>283381996
> Kira couldn't just pack things and leave
Just check who is leaving and *boom* Kira found

>>283382085
>it's crime was just a scandalous but otherwise minor local crime.
Wasn't the guy in question holding women and children as hostages at a school? That seem like more than just a scandalous/minor crime especially for a country like Japan.

>>283382099
That could be tons of people, also it would be a mistake to assume that he would move as soon as possible.

>>283382099
But they did not put the Kanto region under house arrest.

>>283364057
To create a new world free of evil. He was based. All hail the God of the new world!

>>283364057
He loved killing, kira was an asshole not a savior

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>>283364057
Attentionwhoring.

>>283364178
Being imprisoned for life is a better deterrent than getting offed.

>>283364934
Why didn't he go after politicians and the elite? Unlike this based Eleven with a '-gami' in his surname.

>>283382304
>Why didn't he go after politicians and the elite?
Who said he didn't? During the time gap in between L's death and Near's involvment in the story Light was able to stop all wars which suggested that he go after politicians and elite in some form or another.

>>283380528
I must have forgotten that part but if that were the actual case he'd be killing politicians which he never does because his goal isn't to end democracy or destroy monarchies or whatever.

>>283381996
He probably already suspected the killer was a student. He told him to put pressure on Kira in the hopes that he would start making mistakes.

If Kira is announced to live in your district and then your son suddenly flees to another state its pretty suspicious.

>>283382514
We don't know if he killed politicians or not but there is strong reason to suspect that he did because they stated that he was able to stop all wars.

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I hope Light finds out the names and faces of the fags attacking him and writes them on his Death Note!
>>283373853
Sure thing, bruh...

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>>283370421
>Btw I never said punishment has no effect at all on (You)
You quite literally did say it in the 1st post in this reply chain you retarded nigger

>>283379308
It wasn't just that the first crime was there, but it was a low-profile crime only known in japan

>>283364057
>Kira decides to start killing American criminals in cities like detroit
>gets carpal tunnel syndrome within a chapter

>>283367543
This. Not enough people highlight that Kira's only power was cultural/religious. Magic. In truth Death Note would have vastly deeper implications than just deterrent on crime. It'd prove "god" is real on some level, and magic as well. Society would probably collapse in a lot of ways, or at least heavily change. As for the deterrent, it would lose its luster after a few years and people realize it's all Kira watching the news to get names and faces.

>>283383242
>As for the deterrent, it would lose its luster after a few years and people realize it's all Kira watching the news to get names and faces.
I think people would have a hard time coming to this conclusion especially sence after L's death Light wasn't just relying on the news and internet to get the names and faces of people he wanted to kill.

>>283383338
They have tons of examples of this, since the first week since people whose face wasn't shown or names spelled wrong didn't die. The second Kira muddies the waters but they know at the very least that no face = no death since policemen hid their faces and survived an encounter with the 2nd Kira.

It just deflates Kira's legend. Not immediately of course, it's still fucking magic after all. But give it a few years, decade(s) maybe and Kira is just another thing criminals play around.

>>283383427
They also have examples that contradict that narrative like when he killed those FBI agents or when Misa showed up Light could always rely on her to get the names right.

>>283383563
>like when he killed those FBI agents
The public doesn't know about that. The cops know something fishy happened with the FBI agents and the file being sent to everyone. As for Misa well everyone learned that Kira could do with just face that day, but that's still pretty... down to Earth.

>>283383593
>The public doesn't know about that.
They do, Light talked about it openly when his house was bugged during that scene where L send a false message about sending more agents into Japan.

>>283383764
Isn't that the scene where L bluffs there'd be 1500 FBI agents sent to Japan? They didn't say anything about 9 FBI agents dying iirc.

>>283383827
No Light talked about them while being watched by L implying that civilians knew about this incident. Also i'm pretty sure it was more then 9 agents that died.

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>>283383969
Actually you're right but Light is the one who brings it up. I wonder when they made it public in universe

>>283384029
I imagine people found out shortly after it happend because you had like 12 FBI agents just die randomly in Japan.