What are your genuine thoughts on Naruto's part 2 art style?Is it a downgrade or an upgrade from part 1's?
>>283373502Extreme downgrade.
>>283373502It lacks a lot of the charm early Naruto had, I won't lie, but I think the bigger issue is how boring Kishimoto is in regards to compisition and flair. Shots like this just aren't really a thing in Part 2 and it's a shame that's the case.
>>283373502Kishi gradually loses the ability to draw cute girls
>>283373665To me it's not even the artstyle change a lot of the that aesthetic early Naruto had was just lost, just look at these random characters each with a clear and unique style to them you may think they're important.
Part 2 was a downgrade across the board. I can't think of a single area where part 2 is an upgrade over 1. The characters went to shit, the story went to shit, art went to shit. It's so sad.
Things Jiraiya helped Naruto learn & improve over the timeskip:- Shadow shuriken jutsu- Giant rasengan- Better battle tactics. Shown when he was able to outwit Kakuzu (a guy survived trying to assassinate Hashirama) twice.- Better taijutsu. Shown when he was able to fight the Deva Pain for a bit in base form (this makes some autist mad for some reason). - Can make shadow clones much faster. Shown he made a clone before a bloodlusted Chiyo (who's low kage level btw) could attack Kaskaki - Control over Kurama's chakra up to 3-tails
>>283374318Akatsuki were cool as a faction, at least until Pain came along.
>>283374318Part 2 has better characters, better fights, and better story. There's a reason why Part 2 is more popular than Part 1, it's better.
>>283374456>There's a reason why Part 2 is more popular than Part 1Because of OUR HEROESSSSSSSSS
>>283373502>thread is already at bump limit by the time I even see itDamn. Although I guess I should've expected Sasujeet to go into overdrive once Sasuke appeared post-TS.
>>283374573...and Konan.
>>283374445I thought most people liked Pain? But you could also argue that even the Akatsuki peaked in coolness with their intro via Itachi and Kisame.>>283374456Part 2 being 2 times longer than Part 1 might be the biggest reason. I feel like most people would look back on Part 1 more fondly, but maybe that's just me since I'm someone who dropped Part 2 before Pain.
>>283374621>Part 2 being 2 times longer than Part 1 might be the biggest reasonWhatever helps you cope with Part 2 being more popular.
>>283374657Eh, if people like shit that's on them. I stopped caring about Naruto a long time ago.
>>283374621they like the idea of Pain, of a guy who makes such a solid argument against Naruto's worldview that Naruto himself can't respond. Pain as an actual character sucks, he's massively OP to the point it begs the question why he even bothers with having an organisation under him. he's strong enough to collect all the tailed beasts on his own, and is only wasting time farming the job out to a group of clowns he doesn't even like. the whole of the Akatsuki could've just been the Six Paths of Pain, with how strong they all are individually let alone working together. Further, because he makes such a good argument, it makes Naruto's victory over him feel hollow.
>>283374445Those were alright. Kinda lost the sauce with reveals though. >>283374456A few cool characters, sure. It's also longer, a continuation and far more flashy so it's no wonder it's more popular. The story went to shit though and the main characters, especially Naruto, were downgraded into naive, dependant retards. >>283374357>Shadow shuriken jutsuLol>Giant rasenganOh a big rasengan. How cool (not). Why couldn't he help him do one handed rasengan?>Better battle tactics. Shown when he was able to outwit Kakuzu (a guy survived trying to assassinate Hashirama) twice.Ah yes, such an outwit of a guy who thought he was being attacked by some orange retard. And him surviving Hashirama is more that Hashirama let him live rather than Kakuzu having the skill to survive. >Better taijutsu. Shown when he was able to fight the Deva Pain for a bit in base form (this makes some autist mad for some reason).One example halfway into part 2 when all the fights before it show him clone spamming and brawling like a retard prove otherwise. >Can make shadow clones much faster. Shown he made a clone before a bloodlusted Chiyo (who's low kage level btw) could attack KaskakiThis is such a massive cope lol. Completely made up lol. Chiyo is an old lady and Naruto's clones never took than long to create. Literally a single hand sign. >Control over Kurama's chakra up to 3-tailsOnly thing worth mentioning and even that's not much. All in all, the training trip was utterly useless. With all the skill and knowledge Jiraiya has, he passed almost none of it to Naruto. All the things mentioned here wouldn't even take him half a year to learn so those three years were completely wasted.
>>283373502it's kishi's assistants art style
>>283374596Uchigger hands wrote this.
>>283374357Do we know Jiraiya helped him with that and it wasn't just Naruto? Jiraiya's method was to just say "do this" and expect Naruto to figure it out. He also explicitly told Naruto to not bother with any of the basics and to just make use of his massive chakra pool instead.
>>283374747what do you mean good argument lmaoalso he loses to itachi later and naruto the first time
>>283374357>Control over Kurama's chakra up to 3-tailsThis means basically nothing since when Naruto used 1 (ONE) tail against Deidara he got cockblocked by Kakashi. if Kishi wanted to illustrate that better than he should have had Naruto ACTUALLY fight Deidara with the v1 cloak instead of just having him retreat
>>283374456>Part 2 has better charactersName them.
I just watched the boruto movie. Why is Naruto such a shitty dad? Also why doesn't his daughter have red hair?
>>283375491Red hair is recessive. Same reason he doesn't have red hair.
>>283375491>Why is Naruto such a shitty dad?Didn't grow up with a dad.
>>283374357>Better battle tactics. Shown when he was able to outwit Kakuzu (a guy survived trying to assassinate Hashirama) twice.Kakashi's doing.>Better taijutsu. Shown when he was able to fight the Deva Pain for a bit in base form (this makes some autist mad for some reason).Pa's doing.>Control over Kurama's chakra up to 3-tailsDefine control.
>>283373502This has been said by other anons, but a lot of the characters do look really soulless in the part 2 artstyle because they almost never express any emotions.
>>283376262Naruto doesn't take place in the real world, anon. Genetics don't work the same way in a world where you can rip someone's eye out and supplant it into your own eye socket without any form of surgery.
>>283373502Downgrade of course. I'm sure they just got lazier, but it was also probably to give the anime staff a simple template to work with.
Opinions on Sasuke’s daughter?
>>283377615She was hot as a 12 year old. Now she's a hag.
>>283377615shes been pure sex her entire life
>>283377615Built for Big Boruto Cock
>>283377615don't think Tobirama and Danzo's convictions would've held up if they were locked in a room with that piece of ass, just saying
>>283377615She would ONE SHOT Six Paths Madara btw
>>283377615She was quite jarring at first but I grew to love her for it and really like the young woman she has grown into. She’s legitimately a bratty teenage girl with daddy issues. Then Boruto comes back into the village wearing her fathers clothes and she instantly creams.
>>283377615According to some images I have seen, she is apparently the hokage's second wife.
>>283377615I don't like her current design. She should've looked more like this.
>>283374357My headcanon is that Jiraiya raised him a bit as a person, considering Hiruzen just left him alone for 12 years, but Naruto is such a whiny emotional wreck for most of Shippuden that it's hard to say. Sadly he was probably the worst person to pair Naruto with for 2.5 years, Kakashi/etc. would have at least managed to shake the Sasuke obsession.
>>283378394True, some part of Jiraiya always felt like he could save Orochimaru. Kakashi probably would've pointed out to Naruto that there's always been defectors during a hokage's reign, that means they're not your comrades anymore, you have to prioritize the people who're around you first. After all, by Kakashi's definition, Sasuke is "scum" for abandoning his friends.
>>283378394you now remember just how little time Kakashi actually spent training his other two wardshe gave Naruto a few pointers, and that's it. And he didn't even bother to help Sakura, told her "you know what you're doing" and then left her to job the instant an actual fight happened because (surprise) she was totally unprepared for real combat. Sakura even says this, saying she got good marks in school but didn't internalise the actual shinobi mindset. Kakashi actually kinda sucked as a sensei
>>283373502kill yourself narutard
>>283373502Seriously, why don't people shit more on the Tenchi Arc? It's so fucking dull and boring, and nothing important or interesting in it happens at all. People say that the early war arc and the search for Tsunade are bad, but this arc makes these look like masterpieces.
>Missed the dailyHow was it?
>>283373502I haven't read the manga but going off of just the anime, I can easily say I prefer part 1. To my understanding the beginning of part 2 still remains somewhat faithful to the original but I don't know how long that lasts.
>>283374621>Part 2 being 2 times longer than Part 1The War Arc alone is 186 chapters, or 26% of the entire mangaPart 1 is 238 chapters, meaning the final arc alone is almost as long as the entirety of Part 1
>>283377615it's amazing how much they were able to realistically depict a teenage girl that grew up with daddy issues
>>283374456>popular means good
>>283377615She's cute AND strong.
>>283379301>To my understanding the beginning of part 2 still remains somewhat faithful to the originalOnly the Kazekage arc. For me, the Tenchi Bridge arc really represents a lot of what I hate about part 2;>Naruto being an annoying retard>Naruto and Sakura's unnatural and retarded obsession with Sasuke>Shitty talk no jutsu>Older side characters being forgotten >Bloating the cast with new characters that aren't interesting and will quickly be forgotten by the story>Orochimaru being made into a jokeThe only thing that's really missing is the abundance of Uchiha/Sharingan wank.
>>283379455>The only thing that's really missing is the abundance of Uchiha/Sharingan wankKazekage Rescue has Kakashi developing a broken OP jutsu that only the Sharingan can use and forces what was basically an invincible opponent to flee, so it was already there
>>283374357(You)
>>283379556It wasn't that broken back then.Also that's still nothing compared to the shit Kakashi pulls off later in part 2.>gets crippled and hospitalized after only using it twice during the Kazekage Rescue arc>proceeds to spam it endlessly in the War arc with seemingly no drawbacks
>>283379455What Sasuke does in this and the next chapter is absolutely sharinganwank.
>>283377615Looks like a cheap street walker
>>283379230Shit show
>>283379586>It wasn't that broken back thenCompared to what came after, no; in the context of KRA, it was basically a one-shot jutsu with limitless range and the only possible tool that could have stopped Deidara from flying away untouched.The fact that Kakashi only used it twice isn't enough to remove how busted it was in context; hell if Naruto & Kakashi swapped places with Chiyo & Sakura the fight vs Sasori would have lasted one page, Kamui would have removed Sasori's entire puppet body from reality along with his real meat cylinder.
>>283379625how would Unga-Bungura handled Deidara?
>>283379625>Kamui would have removed Sasori's entire puppet bodyIt couldn't even absorb Deidara's whole arm.
>>283379747Deidara was hundreds of feet away flying at faster speed than Kakashi and Naruto runningSasori was just there a dozen feet away and he's slower than Sakura
>>283373665Wasn't this drawn by an assistant?
>>283377615Ugly whore. She had tons of potential for a Naruto female, but Ikemoto ruined her.
Kishimoto is a footfag.
>>283380862>Kishimoto is a fag.FTFY
>>283379919Kakashi wouldn't have used Kamui on him right away. If he tried to activate it after Sasori got his 100 puppets out, he would have probably switched bodies with one of his puppets while his original body was getting absorbed.
>>283377501>Genetics don't work the same way in a world where you can rip someone's eye out and supplant it into your own eye socket without any form of surgery.Clearly someone hasn't been ripping his own and others eyes out
>>283377501Part of the problem is Kishi forgot the Sharingan absolutely gasses Kakashi because he isn't an Uchiha and puts him in bed for 3 days from exhaustion.That was actually a key component of Kek Genki that taking an eye didn't mean you were 100% compatible and it would negatively affect you if you over used it.
>>283375491Because Hinata is ugly. Also the reason why Boruto has bananas for hair. Her stupid mushroom hairdo is solid stiff.
>>283381625>Because Hinata is uglyBased
>>283375491Kishi thought it would be funny or true to Naruto's character or something.
>>283381625You like men.
>>283377501So what answer did you want exactly?That kishimoto didn't want to give Naruto a red haired kid?
>>283377615Went from cute to reminiscent of the average young hoe. What was this design going for? Who does it appeal to? It's neither cute/funny or safehorny. Worst of all worlds.
>>283373502My thoughts are I wish I still had a link to that interview where Kishimoto admitted he didn't know what the fuck he was doing with Sasuke during these chapters.
