Mafuyu's trick or treat.
I 22i going to write bokuben Gaiden?
fuminibros...
spooky skeleton
>>283430278tasty skeleton prprprprprprpr
>>283430278
>>283427131Last resort if he needs to feed his family.
>>283425994Mafuyu's big butt
>>283433986
>>283434182God her ass is so perfectI need to grind my dick on it
>>283430278lmaooo
>>283434182GODDAMN
>>283435300Fat squirrel
>>283434182more
Is Rizu canonically fat?
>>283436764
>>283436495
Nene will avenge Rizu
>>283437146>move into a new nice apartment with a great deal>First thing you see when you open the window is Mafuyu's big fat butt across youThe dream...
>>283434182>>283437146woop woop
>>283425994She can sit on my face as a trick. Or as a treat. Works for both.
Kurisu time is getting close.
I want Sekijou x Mafuyu yuri.
>>283439261>bisexual>batshit crazyShe's perfect.
>>283439522She was the true winner of 2/5
>>283427131Syd Craft deserved to live.
>>283441145>Syd CraftBlunder.
>>283437146more
>>283425994this manga is ass
>>283441864
>>283442264More of that big butt bride
>>283442320
>>283442473Let's see her casual clothes (and her fat ass)
>>283437388But Rizu won Ken.
How do I hug a girl bros
>>283441145>>283441645Should have started with Mafuyu instead of Fumino.
>>283442473Moooore
>>283425994>couldn't solve a single chapter title problemI'm going to fail these midterms.
>>283444256
>>283444786More more!
>>283445189
>>283445299That's the kind of treat I want for Halloween... more
Harem romcom dominance the likes of which has never been witnessed before or since.I swear I had a better quality version of this but I have no idea what happened to it.
>>283430278The superior version.
trick or treat
>>283445791
>>283425994>>283434182>>283437146>>283439261>>283441145Ass so legendary it bookended an entire manga run.
>>283445892Thanks anon. Pretty sure the one I had was in Japanese but this is fine too.
>Tsutsui never drew Mafuyu's kids with Nariyuki
>>283445892I disagree with these polls.I mean Sensei is obviously best girl, it's the rest of the rankings.
>>283447356Probably wouldn't be able to fit all of them + her huge ass in a single page
Remember Asumi wonAsumi won hardAsumi won harder than any other bokukek.Fertile little gremlin
>>283448248Unless you do a ranking poll all you get is faction sizes.
>>283445741
Is a shame we no longer get doujins of this serie
>>283445832
>>283452416be grateful for the gifts we received
>>283437146She was trying to set them right?
>>283442264He really like her right?
>>283445892I remember all the fuminoshits losing their shit back then
Did it had actual ending? Was one girl picked?
>>283453194
>>283453194By the way, Syd is harem ending.
>>283453149>early poll spoilers>that can't be right those numbers don't make senseithis was followed by several weeks of cope
for about 3 days we had back to back threads that simply started with>1/5
>>283454164>>283453149
>>283454370Didn't it make mafuyu the highest voted female character in Jump?
>>283454370Now onto the real question, schizophrenia or autism?
>>283450585Eh, she got a route that had nothing to do with the rest of the manga and her own previous storyline. Almost like the author admitted that she was a worthless character
>>283455274How about delusions of grandeur?
>>2834429411/5
Does Nariyuki do anal with Mafuyu?
>>283455274
>>283456525Jesus...
>>283452370I've already done my business.. but I want to see one last butt anyway
>>283457488
>>283458508but..
>>283458514
>>283458556Sensei.. please
>>283458556
>>283454370>>283456525God, I miss this shit. I even miss the fat squirrel lover (bet you're still around)I've had fun with other series and all, but none of them feel the sameThe current state of the site and the manga industry doesn't help, either
>>283458565
>>283458730The perfect body!! Thank you so much, Sensei, you're like a goddess
>>283455550
>>283458730sensei's hipssensei's thighssensei's boobsSensei's lips..
I still love Fumino bros.
>>283459627
>>283459734disgusting
>>283459861
>>283454370It's kind of funny how the /lit/fag was convinced that there needed to be "suspense" for the popularity poll results, to the point that the author would try to trick people by having the release chapter not be about the winning character. They're just popularity poll results. Fun, but not super serious business that needs to remain secret until revealed. Though thinking of the old /lit/ nickname makes it occur to me that one of the things that hurt Fumino's character was that the "lit" part stopped being relevant, and she never really found anything else to replace it with. Rizu's math got replaced by ramen and Sawako. Fumino's closest thing to replacing that was giving bad advice about women, and having a shitty father.
>>283454370I had totally forgotten about "Y-San." Wonder how many other little things I have forgotten over the years. Bokuben threads were a fun time.
>>283460517>and having a shitty fatherFumino insulted math.
Finished reading this recently. The multiple endings definitely felt like an idea that didn't pan out as well as it was probably envisioned, what with the author running out of ideas barely an arc and a half in, but all worth it for that unexpectedly great Senpai ending. Talk about a dark horse.
>>283425994
>>283461597
>>283462224the golden age of romcom
>>283425994Seeing Sensei again is nice. I was surprisingly invested in this back then. Probably the last time I was invested in a romcom.
>>283460699I wonder if those people were serious or just shitposting.
Mafuyu singlehandedly carried Tsutsui's career as a mangaka
here's the mafuyu list if anyone cares for a reread
All the important plot points summed up.
>>283461597Senpai's ending was indeed the best
>>283463322I love to shitpost as much as everyone here but all that seems like way too much effort just for riling up others, I believe that guy was a genuine autist.
Mafuyu is greatHer voice actress for anime adaptation was also a perfect choice, Lynn. She's one of the main reasons I rolled for Rio in Blue Archive, she sounds just like Mafuyu.
>>283463322Nah, I'm pretty certain they were serious. There are plenty of people out there who get overly invested in a character and preferred romance pairing, and convince themselves that their character and pairing are the best and everything will be going for them. Only to be left shocked and rationalizing when the story does something different, or their character and pairing preferences turn out to not be widely shared. So I'm certain there were people out there who liked Fumino best, convinced themselves she was going to be *the* winning girl, that she had the *best* relationship with Nariyuki, and any evidence to the contrary was the product of just a small but vocal group of haters.
>>283463707I liked only reading the Mafuyu chapters, but Tsutsui definitely made her the butt of a joke when it came to her personal life
>>283463431Thank you bro, i am going to bing the only relevant chapters of this shit
>>283463707Really really miss her ass
>>283435300I love this Rizu>>283458699I wonder if he ever read syd craft, who was his favorite girl.
>>283453764Anyone translated this?
Fumino had a great design
>>283470161The only thing she had going for her
Has 22i done anything since Syd?
>>283453106Yeah
>>283437481i'm about to start the search for my first one this monthhoping i can get this lucky
>>283466635I miss the time travel boobs.
>>283458699>I even miss the fat squirrel lover (bet you're still around)eternally cucked by Ken
>>283463345Did SYD have a Mafuyu?
>>283473322>time travel boobsAfter marrying Mafuyu this became a daily hazard for Nariyuki.
>>283473586Don’t write it as SYD, I thought you were talking about Seitokai Yakuindomo. Syd is a name. It did have a girl like Mafuyu but too little too late.
>>283473912Sorry force of habit. SYD had a Yokoshima-sensei...........What did Syd have?
>>283473981These were the 3 girls in it>>283453764
>>283453764Goddamit 22i! Get your shit together! You gave the boobily competent ojousama Fumiflats! Heresy!
Best girls.
>>283453764>>283474237Is that a knock off Mafuyu?
>>283473597We need a study about the effects of boob time travel on the declining birth rate.
So what are you guys following in terms of romcoms and romance? Anything that reminds you of Bokuben?I got over following the big series. Found the lesser known ones more enjoyable, even if discussion was scarce.
>>283474991its so weird, i thought i would like mayufu the most before reading the manga, but ended up liking this midget the most
>>283476411Makeine
>>283471424I fear 22i is done, Mafuyu was lightning in the bottle that helped bokuben find its footing. If the guy is smart, he'll make a Mafuyu spinoff.
>>283476449Asumi is quite awesome and could be the main heroine of her own manga.
Uruka was a mistake
>>283477447She makes fuminofags seethe too hard to be a mistake.
>>283477257Hard to imagine how that could work (ice skating prequel? constant marital procreation?). He should try something new until a oneshot receives good feedback and then go for serialisation. Whatever he does, no character development haircuts.
>>283477728I'd picture it as both a sequel and prequel, going back and forth between Mafuyu and Nariyuki being newlyweds and Mafuyu remembering/telling old stories.
>>283477257>>283477728He could do a new story with a Mafuyu clone and no one else.
>>283479077Whatever he does, I hope he makes the heroine a threat.
>>283479904He tried with an ASSassin oneshot and didn't get serialized.
>>283479946Make her an isekai villainess that needs to saved and impregnated.
I love Rizu
>>283480800>came two days late to the threadClearly not anymore
>>283453764Phantom thief was best but all 3 were great. I liked inspector Blueberry more than Rizu.
>>283480880I was busy
>>283481246Yeah, busy not loving Rizu enough
Uruka won
>>283482025Abo-kun's dick
>>283481686No
still waiting btw
>>283482025
>>283484371Never ever
>>283476411Nothing, really. Most of the big stuff is either bad or doesn't scratch the same itch.I'd welcome any reccs.>>283484371Mizuki was the biggest loser, doesn't even get doujin as an alternative.She really deserved better.
>>283469072If there's an official translation of the manga volumes, it should have it. Otherwise, I don't think anyone's translated it.
>>283476411Kusunoki but it's not really that similar. 100kano as a satire and Mayonaka for the legs.
>downloaded Syd Craft vol3-4 raws>clearly magazine scans, no bonusesWhy did they do this
>>283488480100kano had some juicy thighs at times but I don't remember Mayonaka at all. Guess that means I'm due for a reread.
I want official nude art and screencaps of the tan one.
>>283489312
>>283489385More.I feel like I don't see much representation of her dropping her towel, getting seen, and willing herself into believing it didn't happen.
>>283489435
>>283486315I get that.>I'd welcome any reccs.Now That We Draw is nice. Great art and I love the manga subplotWolf-chan wa Sumashitai has a great cast. Makiba is a funny love interestAne no Tomodachi has a fun couple dynamic. Hina being a dummy is cute>>283488480I enjoy Kusunoki as well. Great story all around.
Sexsei
>>283488649It gets leech sites additional revenue, even when the actual volume scans aren't readily available for them to swipe and upload.
>>283491748Wolf chan is great, I also love the 3 side characters and want them to get into a throuple
>>283493978Yes, sex with sensei.
>>283481686Sawako and Ken are always there for Rizu
>>283463431>chapter 133that was a fucking bizarre chapter, did tsuitsui really wanted Kirisu to win and was stopped by his editors?
>>283485009didnt the legend was some bullshit his father created to get laid with his mom?
>>28344114522i should take the hint: he's got a gift to write older women in romcom.
>>283453545Each ending truer than the previous.
Uruka was a mistake.
>>283498774No, his original plan was always Uruka as I recall. He just found it really easy to write Mafuyu. I'd wager that chapter was partly a function of him just setting out to write some "hiding in gym storage" shenanigans, and partly a function of him wanting to finish off the setup for Mafuyu after getting approval for the routes idea, and before kicking off his endgame.
>>283475588>You knocked up your wife when you timetraveled back to the past>now you are forced to marry a single mother
>>283477276>Asumi is quite awesome and could be the main heroine of her own manga.22i should make a manga about /chem/ and /mu/
>>283498588They aren't
>>283498774No, 22i himself said that the routes were planned from the start.
5 girls
>>2835019411 bowl
>>283501941The humiliation ritual goes on...
>>283501941>5 girls7 if you count Mizuki and Sawako, 8 if we count Miharu.
>>283501941I only see 4.
>>283437146>be harem MC>tits and asses just teleport in your face
>>283503664
Recently rewatched anime. Yeah, the 2nd season ending is still shite. Fortunetely we've got manga.
>>283504544
>>283504544Yeah, though I did like the updated designs they did. >>283504967In fairness that wasn't too unreasonable a take after season 1 of the anime, which was when that was posted. Then the second season surprised a lot of people by being as definitive as it was when the manga hadn't hit even Uruka's route yet.
>>283503699>Nariyuki about to eat Sensei's assThe meme became real
>>283501912> planned from the startI assume with start he means >>283445892 or the branching point during the festival.
>>283507697No, during the routes he replied to someone in Twitter and said that they were planned from the very start. That was all he said about planning for the routes as far as I remember.
which female bokuben has the smelliest fart? And why it's Mafuyu?
>>283508573>which female bokuben has the smelliest fart?Fumino's shit diet mixed with her meds.
>>283498774>>283501912
>>283508573>>283510034
>>283510379This only says that Uruka's struggle was love.Mafuyu being easier to write is a known fact. It was thought she was the one whom he worked on the most, until he talked about the writing processes behind each character.
>>283510591It also says that Mafuyu wasn't originally planned. So it's a dubious claim that he planned routes from the start when one of the characters who got a route wasn't created until a couple months into the series when he needed a teacher character, and the basic details for her were half-impulse.
>>283452810Glorious.
>>283456525To this day I remain fully convinced that Mafuyu's absolute domination in this poll was the impetus for BokuBen's multiple endings. 22i obviously wanted to write the Uruka route, but editorial were probably terrified that some craven Mafuyuchad would literally burn the WSJ offices to the ground if they didn't publish a story where she and Nariyuki ended up together. And since it would be asinine to only have an ending for two of the five heroines in a harem manga, they went ahead and gave 22i the greenlight to do what is undoubtedly one of the most insane fucking things to have ever occurred on the pages on a Shueisha publication. This manga is a god damn legend.
>>283501912I don't fucking believe that. See >>283512995
>>283512704Could be that he planned for the routes at the start and then decided to give her one. Planning only 3 at the beginning and then adding 2 by the end. Lots of changes happen during serialization and we don't know how much exactly was planned beforehand.
>>283513077I buy this more easily than I buy that he introduced Mafuyu with the intention of giving her an ending. It was almost certainly a "we HAVE to do this" conversation when the call was made to give her a route. She was too popular not to do so.
>>283513072Believe what you want. I see no reason to think the man is lying, myself.>>283513201All we have is just speculation and headcanons. We can read into what he said all we want but unless he explicitly talk about what happened behind-the-scenes it's nothing but that. And he will never, nor should he be expected to, talk about it.
>>283513366The whole route thing is definitely something that ended up happening as a consequence of mafuyu's ever growing popularity.
I love Midwinter
>>283513201It looks to me like he came up with the idea for routes when he introduced Asumi. Immediately afterwards he played around with Mafuyu's role a bit and when the poll happened he went all in. In retrospect the separates arcs made it clear that we had in fact five heroines but I'm not sure everybody expected it at the time.
>>283455489>nothing to do with the rest of the manga True.>and her own previous storyline Certifiable bullshit. Out of all of the heroines, Asumi's goal of becoming a doctor is the most firmly entrenched in her ending. The nature of her false relationship with Nariyuki was also pretty important. It was the most self-contained volume, even more so than Mafuyu's, but it was a phenomenal ending rooted in genuine character drama and a believable, adorable relationship between herself and Nariyuki. It did involve some light retconning, but so did literally every ending after the first (Fumino's being particularly extreme). There's a reason most people acknowledge that Uruka is the most "canon" route, even if it isn't well liked. Though personally I think only Rizu got a bad ending.
>>283513893>here's a reason most people acknowledge that Uruka is the most "canon" route, even if it isn't well likedStatistically impossible. As per 22i words fans are free to choose which route is canon, and Uruka does not have the biggest number of fans.
>>283513859Yeah, this seems pretty believable as well. But I don't buy at all that he was planning multiple endings from the start. And even if he had been, there's no shot that he intended Mafuyu to be one of them before he saw her meteoric popularity. I'd ever go as far as to say that editorial probably wouldn't have allowed him to publish a story about a student marrying his teacher in WSJ had the character not achieved hitherto unseen levels of popularity for a heroine in the magazine.
>>283514102It's the only route that doesn't involve a single retcon nor exclude any of the other main cast members in a notable way. 22i can say whatever the fuck he wants, but there's only one ending that's entirely cohesive with the rest of the narrative. And it's Uruka's. I'm a firm believer in "death of the author". I could not care less what a writer says about a story outside the confines of the narrative itself. The only thing that matters is what's on the page.
>>283514136Since 22i was involved with Nisekoi I find it plausible that he wanted to do something different. I even get the impression that he went with the route approach because of Uruka (usually the losing heroine role), but then things got wild.
>>283514215And that's your right, as 22i said.But you are wrong about which route is the most seen as canon. And that can be proven by numbers.
>>283514536Which route is most beloved =/= which route is most canon. This conversation has been done to death and it's only a few people who still cling to the "most people consider the most popular heroine canon because 22i said you get to pick your favorite" cope.
>>283514859Just because you don't like it doesn't make it any less true. 22i is the author and this is his story. What he says stands true at the end. People are free to choose as they like.
>People still reply to the deluded urukafagI guess we never learn.
>>283515009Uruka wonChihiro won
Least we can all agree that Fumino and Rizu lost the hardest
>>283515524No.
>>283515524According to the anons ITT, if ur*ka was going to be the sole winner, then she was the one who lost the hardest.
>>283450585Crazy how that little thing immediately popped out four kids. Her dad was so happy.
Honestly even if probably unintentional on the writer’s part, it looked more like Sensei was the one.Like with Uruka, there are no retcons needed for Nariyuki to like Sensei and the Uruka chapters very deliberately give her no time with Nariyuki until the outcome is set. Nariyuki’s crisis in it also makes no sense if he straightforwardly loves Uruka since she confessed to him so how would replying be an issue, it’s literally the polite thing to do for a confession. The whole set up with Miharu is really weird as well.The issue with Sensei is that it wasn’t explored further in the present because of the drama that would be required since from the other girls perspectives, it would be a crazy situation and the losers can’t just gracefully give up like all the other routes because of the hidden nature of the relationship.We got a timeskip from the start of Sensei’s route that makes everything feel incomplete, because a significant chunk of plot is missing.Nothing is really fully satisfying as a result for either Uruka or Sensei yet alone the other girls.
>>283517270I see fags complaining about the time skip for sensei's route but have never seen anyone bitching like that about asumi's route.
>>283517366I feel like, at least at the time, there were complaints about how that ending was practically completely removed from the story itself, people tend to go easier on it because Asumi never seemed like she was going to be the winner, and because her route was very good in spite of that.
>>283516440>then she was the one who lost the hardest
>>283515524Nah, Rizu did pretty well for herself. Yeah half her route got taken up with Sawako's problems, but that's mostly because Nariyuki would have confessed within a couple chapters without some distraction stalling him. Otherwise her route sees her flirting with Nariyuki unopposed from like Christmas to midsummer, by which point he's confessing to her, has a heavy makeout session with her, and is talking about marriage. That ain't bad. The biggest loser is Fumino. Her route sees her needing to get injured before Nariyuki will pay attention to her, Uruka doesn't concede and still takes her shot at Nariyuki, she has to basically apologize to Rizu and Uruka before she gets to confess and get a positive response, then nothing happens for four months, after which point her would be future sister-in-law is still hostile to her, and she goes on a date with Nariyuki where Rizu and Uruka threaten to steal him from her if she doesn't make him happy, and Asumi and Mafuyu borrow him to pretend he's their boyfriend. Only after all that does she finally get her first kiss from Nariyuki. Leaving her route the only one where Nariyuki isn't married, engaged, or at least discussing marriage and/or kids with the winner. That's pretty rough for a 'victory'.
>>283517366Asumi’s route being mostly self contained works fine for her since in the main story she didn’t have much focus.Sensei’s relationship was developed much more strongly in the main route and especially the slow burn romance. Timeskip from the start with zero onscreen conclusion for the timeframe that the relationship developed in doesn’t work for this type of romance, large chunks of interesting development are missing.