Chapter LXXII
>>283478101
>>283478101>they didnt have clothes for the big lady so shes still naked
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>>283478176
>>283478205
KILL THIS EVIL WOMAN NOW!
>>283478230
>>283478176EVIL FUCKING WOMEN
>>283478274EVIL WOMENEROTIC
where is anon that was coping about helem not being inherent evil
>>283478274
>>283478158There were clothes for everyone (otherwise the jobber squad would be naked too). Helem simply made her stay naked for her own enjoyment.
Evil Woman Namek starts now
>>283478230finally being actual evil, shame it won't work out at all since she just got a panel showing her plan that will inevitably not happen as shown.
>Helem gave Altus morality on purposeshe might actually be dumber than Elstri
test
We're dead boys.
>>283478306
>>283478230>Zira was used to witness arkos cruelty and sadism, but it was nothing compared to helem's malice and pettiness
>>283478330>clothes bloody or missing thats from their old corpses
>>283478434
>>283478434MY PRINCE
>>283478434I applaud author for this.
>>283478434MY HEROOOO
>>283478467
>>283478330Mostly because she didn't expect for Angvall to literally fall on her lap
>>283478306>>283478434>not so fast evil bitches
>>283478148>>283478176>>283478205These pages are really unnecessary
>>283478495>it was like he was looking at walking garbage
>>283478467Looking at her face, it wasn't calculated, huh?
>>283478495
>>283478495Helem, you may be evil... and sex incarnate... but I dont think antagonizing the person who can explode you is a good idea.
>>283478523she is retarded obviously it wasn't calculated, enitehr Arkos coming from oblivion which will likely not be under her control
>>283478532>there is absolutely no way this could ever backfire
>>283478495Not gonna lie, Helem basically kicking a puppy is a boring kind of evil.
>>283478434>>283478495>>283478532I am now invested in the psycho possessed Golem.
>>283478538helem is mid at best anon
>>283478532
>>283478523Elstri's retardedness must be contagious
The whole chapter is going to be this one wagon scene, isn't it?
>>283478590
>>283478434>>283478467>>283478495Altus got redeemed a little here. Evil women suck.
>>283478504I don't know, the nature of how she's a mole was a bit ambiguous, it could have used some spelling out for the cheap seats
>>283478617
>>283478434>my feet hurt>I wanna go home>I hate it here>these women are insane and disgustingfucking based.
>>283478584Dont lie to me anon, look at that cleavage.>>283478594This is known.
>>283478652
decent ch, but not much happened
>>283478590made to be molested by the meido
>>283478274Okay, rein it in a little
>>283478666the clevage might be good satan but my dick refuses the rest
>>283478680
>Altus: I HATE Evil Women.>The King: NO SON OF MINE WOULD SAY SUCH A THING.
>evil woman literally chose to make cutecrima retardedlol
>>283478711
Atlas the punching bagAtlas the Ryona golem
>>283478713Zira is not an evil woman, Arkos was a real nigga and so is Altus
>>283478617TITI STRONK
>>283478740
>>283478666fuck off back to hell and take your whore with you, satan
>>283478434I KNEEL
>>283478766
>>283478617>the hydromancer FEARS the housewife
Arkos won't be happy to be bossed around by hellen for long, he hates Julian, but he probably hates being stepped on more.
>>283478176Do you think it's Helem who's making Lacrima wear that bizarre dress? Subliminal messaging
>>283478755>Arkos was a real nigga
>>283478802End of chappy. Break next week, as expected.
>>283478832No images during a dump nigger
>>283478434So Altus is just literally us.
Kenturia is #1 on Jump+ this week.
>>283478845I repent.
>>283478839Sin count: 1
>>283478434I kind of agreed with anon bitching about Arkos coming back as Altus, but I think author intends to make him an actual character, which validates it in my eyes. This I consider a affirmation of my hopes
>>283478870it's usually always second to spy x family, which is on break this week
>>283478230>>283478274What a fucking whore I swear
>>283478900I like Altus but the concept was kinda muddled by forcing the Arkos inner demon bullshit
>>283478532"Pay no attention to Altus, we purposely gave him morality... As a joke."
>>283478839Helem is so dead isnt she.Arkos is gonna come back and blow her ass up.
Ok I need to apologize to the author as I did not expect him to go this route with Altus. Pretty nice actually.
>>283478698She's for pump and dump(ing her corpse into a cesspit).
>>283478652We finally got a glimpse of what looks like a writing system in the setting. What's that? Szucwiya?
>>283478940YOU KNOW THE RULES.
>>283478274100% she was betrayed by family or a lover
>>283478740Helem's so evil, covering Elstri with her speech bubble...
>>283478434>>283478467HOLY BASED
>>283478839>the most effective spies...>...are those unaware they're spies at all
>>283478532>I gave a Atlus a good boy personality because I knew it would bother Arkos who loves being evil>don't even think about how this could backfireWhen you are so evil that it loops back around to being retarded...But ignorance is said to be the root of all evil so I guess it checks out.
>>283478839>break weekNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>283478894I think it counts as Helem's. Imagine how she'd burn. She's the kind of woman they invented burning at stakes for.
>>283478960
>>283478960Fine
>>283478900Yeah, this is a good dynamic. He just needs to gain some kind of agency down the line so it doesn't get repetitive.
>>283478928I agree, but I think it's at least salvageable to a degree. Depends on how it develops.
>>283478495in this manga the only good moms are the dead moms
>>283478434>>283478839Very promising development.
>>283478274I don't care what is her backstory. Gut the slut.
>>283478274Either she lost her family or she is the king's bastard and she is mad that daddy doesn't acknowledge her existence
>>283478972I feel like her motivation is going to be paper thin given how sensitive she really is and the obvious bitterness on her face, guaranteed she'll still look like a crazy fuck after we get the sob story.
>>283478434>I thought evil women was like an euphemism for rough femdom or something, not that you ate children alive as an offering to Satan
Altus is muh nigga
>>283478870whats the manga in third place>>283478928>>283479057I think arkos is just author way of having a way for him to go against helem even if "altus" is her puppet
>>283478274what made her so evil?
>>283479277No evil woman lover king to dick her down
>>283478434Someone had to say it
>>283479277That's what King offered when he got his blessing. He'd gain the strength to become a great king but all his offspring (and thus all his successors) would be horribly evil. I want to see him talk to Altus.
>>283478972Agreed, honestly a very disappointing development, i hoped she'd have some nuance but it seems she's just a "bad thing happened so now im pure edgy evil" kind of villain
>>283478802The king doesn't really care anymore after being alive for so long does he? This goes beyond thinking with your dick. All the women from the palace have mental issues. Elstri is retarded. The Queen is a BPD bitch. Helem is a sadistic murderer, has necrophilic tendencies, creates and plays with life while fully enjoying herself. On top of that she's a sexual predator and lesbian!
>>283478972Her lover was male and that's why she only fucks women now
>>283479351let's not jump the shark
>>283479407I said it here (>>283479350) as a half joke, but I really wouldn't be surprise if that was somehow tied to King's blood.
>>283479407>and lesbianOh, the humanity. Not a lesbian!
>>283478972im guessing that's they shot her in the face, which is how she got that black mark on her forehead that has the same shading as Altus' neck scar
>>283478274she 100% has daddy issues
>>283479445Can you see this going a different way?
>there are chances that Altus will defect to team Titi now as long as he somehow escapes Helem's ordersfucking kek
>>283479350Solution: kill all the evil offspring and force Helem to resurrect them as morally good versions of them.There's the gifted that turned Orthos into a npc, we can do that to Helem, we have the technology.What better punishment than to have her spawn good people for the rest of her life?
>>283479501She shares the same eyes, haicut and linking for evil women with the king
>>283478802How many fucking people going around are actually puppets
>>283478495you'd think someone who is constantly talking smack wouldn't have such a fragile ego
>>283478839>>283478802>>283478766Until this chapter I believed there was a strong chance Helem could be redeemed and would have a happy ending. Now I'm convinced she's getting a bad ending but I hope not
>>283479047>>283479041kek, kung pow bros
>>283478766the "tee-hee let's kill everyone for shits and giggles" thing is getting old
>>283479574Maybe not, I think he'll find some solace on zira who'll be the only one who treats him with human decency and once helem decides to kill her (or force him to kill her) to teach him a lesson he'll finally snap and make her choke on her literal blood
>>283478900I was immediately cool with Altus when I realized he is essentially the secondary rival shounen protagonist complete with his own evil side and everything.
>>283479702This is literally the first time she's killed anyone in 72 chapters, it's a meaningful moment because for once it actually happened
>>283478351>Go nuts deep>Just keep saying five minutes
>>283479625I guess Helem's trumpcard is that half the kingdom are her mud dolls already
>>283479745being so incompetent it took her 20 tries to finally do it doesn't make it meaningful
>>283479690>Until this chapter I believed there was a strong chance Helem could be redeemed
Helem needs no family/lover issue,abuse,betrayalShe is pure evil
>>283479574Altus is too broken right now to be a good guy
>>283479790but she's hot
>>283478434>>283478467Absolutely based.TOTALDYKEDEATH
>>283479720>kills Zira>turns her into evil Z(omb)irakek
>>283479790This is the face of a good girl
>>283479745It would be meaningful if she killed a named character instead of a literal nameless hobo
>>283478434Based and kneeling, I love this author
>>283479820No it wouldn't, you can justify killing any of the current "antagonists" because they're literally fighting against the end of the world, it's not an evil action. Killing a homeless begger who posed no threat is an evil action, it's significant and the first actually evil thing she's done and even Elstri is shocked
>>283479801>>283479574He's kinda going the Orthos route now.He has the power and doesn't want to kill. But this time it isn't his choice to be turned into NPC, he actually is forced by Helem and Arkos (when he resurfaces to plow Zira 30s each day)
>>283479675With arrogant people It always boils down with insecurity issues >>283479426Just imagine if scorpion girl got caught as well
>>283479852>the first actually evil thing she's doneAnon...
>>283479732Riku! Welcome back!
>>283479873What else has she done?
You just know Altus is going to be voiced by Shigaraki's VA.
>>283478434My prince, I. . . I kneel
>>283479852>the first actually evil thing she's doneare we talking about the character who defiles and cannibalizes corpses in order to trap people's eternal souls in mud dolls that override their original personalities and turn them into slavesor is there another helem I'm not aware of
>>283478434>alive for a week>already wise to evil women
>>283478495Author has mommy issues, i see.
>>283479956None of that is evil and she's not even aware of the soul aspect, Arkos is going to be a surprise to her and probably her undoing.
>>283479690I don't know at this point, but I hope her bad end happens either way. The way to Hell is full of good intentions.
>>283479956She has big titties so it doesn't count
As much as I like Lacrima I hope the author won't make her wholesomely break from Helem's chains and let travel with the group.
>>283479690>I believed there was a strong chance Helem could be redeemed and would have a happy ending
>>283479008
>>283479956>in order to trap people's eternal souls in mud dollsthat you have to write fanfiction should be proof enoughthe only time we're shown anything like that is with Arkos, and Helem was shown to know nothing about it
>>283480026> Lakrima learns she's a puppet> takes it to mean Helem is her mother because she is dumb> follows the Elstri party so they lose the gps and because she's a dumb mud with mommy issues
>>283479956but what if necromancy is not illegal in that world?
Imagine a conversation between Altus and Amber
>>283478740That's a good face
>>283478495>>283478839Where does this maid bitch get off acting all caring of Altus as if she wasn't also one of the evil bitches he called out? She had absolutely zero issue with Arkos being a mass murdering psychopath back in the day, but now she acts all bothered because the person calling them for what they are happens to have his beloved's face.I can understand her sticking to him like glue on the off chance Arkos resurfaces for a bit, that tracks, but acting all shaken when she's been all aboard this moronic revenge quest from the start is just fucked. At least Helem is unapologetically evil and Elstri too braindead to understand morality.
>>283478652Amber is cute!
Maid looks like she wants that mud dick
>>283478652do we know where they are going? Julian and the others are going to the neighbohoring kingdom, are they following?
>>283479956Listen,>eats eyeballevil is just>raises the deada matter of perspective.>enslaves your friendFrom my point of view>enjoys killingI'm the victim here>treats people like toolsand everyone else is evil.>delights in sufferingIf you think about it,>has zero regard for human lifenothing is black or white, you know.>excitedly plans how to inflict the most despairIt's just shades of gray....Altus, blow that guy up, it'll be funny
>>283480328TAHITI
>>283479956I can fix her.
>>283480253>Are you guys gonna participate in this year's NNN?
>>283480341>eats eyeballnot evil>raises the deadnot evil>enslaves your friendshe did it in this chapter for the first time> treats people like toolswords> delights in sufferingwords> excitedly plans how to inflict the most despairwordsup until now, she basically just said mean things to people while making evil faces, she hadnt actually done anything properly evil
I feel like Helem is getting set up for a fate worth than death. It feels like the entire Queen and Lacrima thing was the Queen gauging what Helem's power could do. I am uninterested in this chapter. I could see the Atlus stuff coming and I do not care. It's a call-back to the first chapter where Julian is a slave and now Atlus/ Arkos is a slave. The only reveal is that Helem can apprently just straight up Pokemon command them.I'm really waiting for a character who's gift takes admin control of the dolls from Helem.
>>283480072If he said that in front of the king, millions would die
>>283480341What part of big honking titties don't you get?
>>283480667>I feel like Helem is getting set up for a fate worth than deathIf I'm reading the manga hoping she gets a happy ending am I going to be disappointed?
>>283479675I think it's more like she wasn't really ready for such behaviour, Helen was just telling how in control of the situation she was and Altus comes and says "nuh uh".
>>283478434Goddamn what a roast
>>283479675he hit her where it hurts.
>>283480144It kinda made me laugh with how he resembles Palpatine, lmao
Helem has a fragile ego and i want to break it more
>>283480752The most obvious development is that she gets killed with the power of love/family when any of the puppets she made turns on her.The closest thing to a happy ending her character could realistically get is that something changes her position and she sacrifices herself for love/family but I really doubt it, the manga spent too much time showing her as pure evil.
>>283480752I mean if you are hoping she gets deep dicked by Julian, joins his harem, and becomes a good women that ain't happening. It feels like the entire exchange with the Queen was Helem complettely misreading her and the Queen pulling information on how the mud clones work. I'm honestly expecting the hunt for Diana to be a wild goose chase with the Queen being behind the Kings problems and when Elstri returns we'll get the King dead in the throne room. Diana's war that Elstri forsaw is something that Elstri will end up supporting.
>>283480806She loves to look down on others but not other people (rightfully) looking down on her
>>283480895>I mean if you are hoping she getsto stay by Elstris side after they save the world
Spent too much time on this, it turned out like garbage and it's not even relevant to the chapter in any way
>>283478538She becomes stupider every chapter, just like Elstri. At this rate she's gonna cross the line where she's too retarded for me to be attracted to her. Author needs to gradually make her tits bigger to balance it out.
>>283480997I smiled, I praise your addition to my Helem collection
>>283480997I like it
>>283480934nah, the only yuri end she could possibly get is the one where she gets squashed and Elstri is sad about it
'Crima in the chappy
>>283480839Her stuff contradicts what we know about blessings. IIRC the one who gave Julian her blessing said tht pure love is a requirement. I'm wondering if Helem inherited hers or actually got hers.
>>28348099740 thousands keks
>>283478176smolcrima
>>283480934they both deserve bad ending for being lesbos
>>283478205aieee evil woman
>>283478434Little does he know it's just a woman thing.
>>283480997lmao, much better than what I did last chapter>>283312941
>>283480072>Helem is disappointed at her son
>>283478230>they don't know
>>283478434my man
>>283481096Perfect onahole shaped LacrimaShe's extra-stretchy due to the water body~
>>283481065pic related best mud
>>283478306>everyone thinks Helem is too evil
>>283478434Evil womenbros, how do we respond?
>>283478532Couldn't Arkos hypothetically just take over for a moment and turn her into a red mist?
>>283478434>be zombie >have more of a heart than the evil woman Bravo and based
>>283478434Altus is a real one.
>>283481282We don't know that Arkos would be able to disobey either but I wouldn't be shocked if that's how it goes down in the end
>>283479426>Her lover was male and that's why she only fucks women nowOr her lover was a female who dumped her instantly for a guy.Then she killed both and made puppets out of them.
>>283478467>evil women suckHe said it! He said the thing!
>>283481340he could always kill her before she has time to give an order
>>283478495Zira will protect her man
>>283479226>Daddy issues made her evilDamn she needs dick correction while calling me daddy.
>>283478434Lmao
>>283481340My guess is that he'll be the one willing to work with Helem to contrast with Altus.Maybe there is a way to fully revive him, Helem said she doesn't really know the full extent of her powers, and that would gain her favor with the Queen, which is something she seems to be interested in having.
>>283478176>>283478205Werent Helem and Elstri surprised that Lakrima had switched sides when they met on the wall?Im guessing here she just means that she is the one who created her.>>283481282Arkos being the one to kill her would be the worst, everyone in the protagonist's party (and even Altus) has a direct thematic conflict with her.And we still dont know for sure what happens to the puppets when she dies.
>>283478532so evil
>>283478590Altus is a good boy.
>>283481439>Arkos being the one to kill her would be the worstArkos could give Helem the death she deserves.
>>283478617Titi bros, we inspire
>>283478434How do you respond to this without sounding mad?
>>283481003...!
>>283478652Big woman!
Question remains is if Helen dies then all her puppets die too or not.If not then the whole story is bullshit, but I expect that angle to happen sadly, Helen gonna be betrayed by her puppet and that some who have strong souls can survive that and be their own people again as new beings.
>>283481282Depends if the puppets can survive the death of their creator.
>>283478680There's no way he'd recognize Altus tho
>>283478711No no sir, you should be saying that to that busty lady over there
>>283481526>Yes.
>>283480144don't look at those necks tho
>>283479702>he doesn't understand the concept of evil women
>>283481491Sure but i hope the author is good enough to give villains their thematic comeuppance instead of just using them for fanservice gore porn.Besides it's not like she was ever shown to have personal combat abilities, im sure any of the characters that are pro family and love could turn her into a dropped hamburger.>>283481649It's possible Arkos killed his son when he was younger and looked sort of like Altus does.
Altus keeps getting younger each chapter. Soon he'll be a shota.It would be funny if this was being done in purpose, with Helem's powers having the downside of making the puppets age in reverse, becoming increasingly younger until they turn into babies and then mud as a sort of externalized trauma for losing her child or something.
>>283478802>inb4 that's Margrave
>>283481772>im sure any of the characters that are pro family and love could turn her into a dropped hamburger.Actually I was thinking about Arkos controlling the water inside the body of her male mud dolls to make them gangrape her to death.The good guys wouldn't have the stomach to do something like that.It's the perfect ending for a lesbian necromancer.
>>283478240No.
kinda wish we had gotten more from Amber, next chapter is probably going back to the protagonists too
>>283478434Atlus is wise behind his years. Which is ironic because he's only a week old.
>>283481996wasnt he made around 5 years ago? did Helem chew on a head that had been decaying for 5 years?
>>283478434MY FUCKING KNEES
>>283481945I prefer the mystery.What Helem said about personalities of the golems also applies to her, so we don't really know what kind of person she'll be.
>>283478467>>283478495>Helem reacts like this to just a single slightIt's official, she would hate being raped herself which in turn only makes the correction session even better.Paladinbros we ARE gonna be feasting with this one.
Atlus cute
>>283482029>wasnt he made around 5 years ago?I don't know why I think he's much younger but you'd be right.
>>283482125I wonder if the family thing is what bothered her.
>>283481356wouldn't make as much sense for her to hate families in that case
these villains are all so retarded i wonder if it's becase the incest
>>283482299Knowing the current operation was meant to fail intentionally to create an army of loyal puppets changes how I view the past arc. It solidifies that Helem is the one really looking at the long game and Diana is probably just a justification to push a separate and much more terrifying agenda.
Um... what happened to the mystery niggas?
>>283478274Common lesbian behavior
>>283482348that was Elstri's plan actually, Helem is so retarded she would make the murder puppet of the strongest gifted she ever got her hands on a morally good person and is now basically intentionally disgusting all of her allies
>>283482384...
>>283482384they're both naked under their Orthos cosplay, and im sure it's very hot under all that armor
>>283482384Speedreader kun...
>>283478802What did the beggar expect to happen? Presumably, he was aware of what Arkos was capable of.
>>283482524?
>Chapter completely exposes every single fake evil woman enjoyerI knew there was too many in here with great taste for it to be true.
>>283479536yes
>>283482555He was a husk of a man that spent over half a decade mindbroken. I doubt he was thinking all that much.
>>283478274I can fix her
>>283482728The chapter started strong until she showed weakness from Atlus' remark. She's just a petty hypocrite, I sleep.
>>283478766God she's so hot when she's indifferent to human suffering.
>>283479690My liege...
>>283482753Care to elaborate?
>>283482761That seems like an awfully presumptuous claim to make about a character that existed for 6 pages.
>>283479956Yea okay, but have you considered that i would like to be Helem's sextoy mud puppet hu?
>>283478230This is why Lacrima being a zombie is an asspull. Why didn't she have Lacrima kill her during the battle? There must have been a bajillion chances to do it
>>283479702this wasnt done for shits and giggles, this was done because the guy was causing a ruckus and they didnt want their caravan of mindless looking zombies, big woman, obviously regal maid and dude with a skull mask to be noticed
>>283482839The hypocrisy only make it hotter tho?You can't say you were really ever into Evil Women if you can't even stomach that.
>>283482935>clearly suffering from immense sorrow due to his dead relative >said relative was obviously murdered by Arkos>who died years agoHis reaction gives it away, he became completely broken over it for years, so much that he impotently lashed out against one of the most OP characters in the setting as soon as he saw him.
>>283478434>>283478467Get fucked necrobitch even your thralls hate you
>>283479675Those are the people with the MOST fragile egos. Absolute offence zero defense
>>283482964The goal wasn't to actually kill Diane just yet. It was farming gifted for some other purpose. Lacrima getting close to Diane just means they can trigger their next plan at any moment they see fit.
>>283483095Potentially but not when she cracks from a simple insult. Evil women have to be tougher than that to be hot.
>>283479690Bro, there's only one way to redeem a bitch this vile.
>>283482728They started to expose themselves after the lacrima reveal
>>283479702>the "tee-hee let's kill everyone for shits and giggles" thing is getting oldFirst time huh?
>>283483243I love Elstri grinning here with Helem about how evil they are together and then Helem keeps going in the following chapters and now Elstri is looking all "oh no, I married the wrong girl."
>>283483255Again, you just prove that supposed evil women 'enjoyers' are just into femdom
>>283483350Elstri is interested in doing evil only to prevent the apocalypse, Helem just wants to cause suffering and watch people's horrified expression.
>>283483405You say that as if there's no overlap.
>>283483350>and now Elstri is looking all "oh no, I married the wrong girl."She married a chaotic evil bitch. Elstri is probably Lawful Evil so she's rightfully realizing she's going to have to wrangle Helem until she probably plans to kill her as well.
>>283483243>Dianeshe's not a granny
>>283478802Haha, Elstri still thinks she's in charge, that's hilarious.
>>283483439That's like saying liking muscular women equates to wanting to get stepped on instead of thinking about how awesome your children are gonna be.I fucking hate that shit, i'm not the same as you sissies, i actually work out.
No seriously, what happened to the mystery niggas??
>>283483255It makes sense though. Her dolls are all yes-men so she isn't used to being opposed like that.
>>283478455Zira was never comfortable with Arkos's brutality/killing either, but she just accepted him because he was actually decent to her and he did save her life so she felt she owed him anyways. Even now she's just getting strung along by Elstri because she has no other job. I don't think Zira particularly cares about revenge.
>>283478532>Gave him a nice personalityBut why? Why would you do that? Why would you do any of that? Seriously, that's beyond retarded. Is she huffing paint or something?
>>283480149>she's been all aboard this moronic revenge quest from the startI recall her being pretty unconvinced it was a good idea and basically just going along with it because of Elstri's authority.
>>283483528No? That's such an awkward comparison I don't even know where to begin.>>283483542I still like her as a character, honestly more now. This is purely about attractiveness.
>>283478274Carebear villain dialogue
>>283478617I hope he starts to read books about how to imprengate good girls and court them.
>>283483439The problem is people who claim themselves to love evil woman characters only to fold like bitches when said woman is properly characterized as being evil rather than just some run of the mill sadistic mommy dommy fetish>>283479250
>>283483243>The goal wasn't to actually kill Diane just yet.No, it was definitely the goal, they're just too retarded to succeed and convinced themselves they didn't fail.
>>283478274YJN this bitches parents sold her into prostitution or some shit and thats why she thinks family and love is "fake" and "hollow"
>>283483617I can't speak for anyone else but the stuff with Lacrima and Angvall is hot. If people are getting turned off by that, I see your point.
>>283481996That's not how irony works.
>>283483754she doesnt even fuck the puppets
>>283483621>it was definitely the goalSeems more a side objective. If they kill her then good, but if they fail they still got a bunch of fodder for later. Even earlier conversations hinted that they only really wanted to purge the foreign gifted.
>>283483783yetI meant the scheming and malice though.
>>283478434>Be a literal zombie>Still more sane, rational, moral, and empathetic than any of the women around youDo we think Tohru might actually be misogynistic?
>>283483846there are about as many evil women as there are good womenit's the mothers, all the mothers are either dead or evil
>>283483599Nigga are you a woman yourself?First you go "I sleep" to that development but now you suddenly like her more?Helem being a petty asshole IS the bantz and retorting with physical aggression is evil woman behavior 101, if you don't get that then you just don't like them.
>>283483846On the contrary, most of the genuinely good people we've seen are women
>>283479260A new one.
>>283483906Retardbro, writing quality and getting a boner are not the same thing. Putting her in direct opposition to Atlus fleshes them both out and her hatred of family specifically makes her a perfect antagonist for Julian whose entire purpose is his newfound family. At the same time, it makes her fucking pathetic so my dick is no longer interested.
>>283479690WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
>>283479790>pureI don't think anything about her is pure.Except maybe sex!
>>283484090Please expand
>>283481776Anon, Lacrima is proof that her puppets do age.
>>283479926I'm still hearing him and Arkos as Troy Baker.
>>283484104HELEM REDEEMED?! I'M GONNA JUMP UP ON YOUR STOMACH LIKE A TRAMPOLINE
>>283484169She should be redeemed, look at this cute face, does this look evil to you?
So this chapter 100% confirms that Helem can assume direct control but that doesn't mean the puppets she creates especially like what she tells them to do unless she EXPLICITLY creates them to be mindless drones.So this means Amber will almost certainly not liking fighting Jules and Titi if she ever has to since Helem re-created her as she remembered Angval.They could theoretically mouth off some stuff that will backfire on her and ElstriIt's not looking good team evilbros...
>>283484169He's a retarded waifufag, no point in arguing with him
>>283484200>Helem re-created her as she remembered Angvalthis was never statedit's more likely that she created her personality in such a way as to maximize Titi suffering>They could theoretically mouth off some stuff that will backfire on her and Elstrinewborn Altus was in the room when they were discussing that the queen learning that they had used Arkos' corpse wouldve meant sure death for them so, yeah
>>283484087Listen i get what you are saying but the the trait you describe is an integral part of what makes the whole archetype so great to begin with.I can't remember a single memorable female antagonist that isn't petty in some shape or form, it's especially great watching them seeth about getting 1upped constantly for the ultimate mindbreak moment.I stand by what i said, if you can't appreciate that you don't like them that way.
>>283478501love this post
>>283482761Sounds like he's better off dead.
characters like Helem always lose to vanity and hubris
>>283478434That's my fucking prince right there
>>283478230>>283478205>>283478176
>>283484336I should clarify. Helem picking Angvall's hair lock with a devilish grin and getting triggered by Atlus are both petty but only the former is hot. When these characters start throwing temper tantrums, it ruins the whole appeal imo. Maybe you'll call that a part of "the archetype" too, but breaking down isn't what makes them evil women so I don't think it matters.
>>283482734I really got banned for this? Kek
>>283484663I agree but the thing is Helem isn't backing down tho?I fact she seems to be doubling down every time she's on screen which just makes her more entertaining and hot imo.I just think it's cucking out the moment you think she isn't in absolute control of everything 24/7 or be emotionally stable for the matter.That would make her a worse character from a writing perspective since she would be given no chances to reflect at all.
>>283478839Will we get a palace arc with Altus?
>>283478802>Going to make a copy of a random homeless begger You have to wonder how many hapless citizens in the capital are completely unaware mud golems that crossed her path at one point.
https://may.2chan.net/b/res/1363402021.htm
>>283478740What do we think Arkos did to this dude's grandson
>>283484830We take evil women slander very seriously in these threads.
>>283478274helem did nothing wrong
>>283478434cute elstri
>>283485005She's always been cute
>>283485005Why did she suddenly have slit pupils here?
>>283478101I like how the old fuck still has his signature smile
>>283484842My problem is now everything is in the context of whatever trauma happened to her when she got her power. All the evil stuff she's doing is going to be in service of some really stupid world view rather than love of the game.You're right that not giving her a flaw like this would fuck over the writing, though I think it could've been done more subtly.
>>283485072I wonder if Balbad is still with them
>>283478467That stung abit.
>>283484842anons its normal for complete control freaks to go mad at any sign of loss of control
>>283484842absolute control and temper tantrums are not the only options
>>283484877I love the mizuman/mizumanko nicknames
>>283478434Unfathomably based.
I literally just realized that Helem is a digimon reference... she's lilithmon holy furaaak
>>283478495i thought it was a dress but those are just very baggy pants?
>>283478617>The incredibly powerful mud zombie FEARS TitiAPOLOGIZE TO TITI
>>283485066evil woman
>>283478434TOLD
>>283478839Thanks for the dumpI like that the author is expanding upon Altus being an actual character. Poor guy woke up one day and got thrown into this mess.
>>283485087>All the evil stuff she's doing is going to be in service of some really stupid world view rather than love of the gameWe don't really know that yet.But whatever, we could argue motivations all day and believe her character arc isn't gonna disappoint.>>283485158>>283485180You two fight over that since there are you clearly have conflicting views.
>>283484877some things trascend language
>>283485413i'm taking his virginity instead
>>283478617Titi… WON
>>283483350I was surprised at Elstri being unhappy at hobbo killing, but it kinda make sense. She's only schizoid when it come to Diana related issue, even using the village as bait was Diana related. This random fuck has nothing to do with that, and well she probably realise the Supreme Lord would be displeased at such action. And Elstri is the Supreme Lord #1 Simp.
>>283478434HOLY BASED
>>283478274ohnonono how's her relationship with her dad?
>>283478839Diana isn’t going to kill the king at all, she’s just going to get an entire household of reborn royals
>>283478495>still giving them a look of absolute disgust even after getting kicked in the faceI bet he didn't even flinch
>>283478802next time Altus is ordered to kill someone he should blow them up side of their dick so the bitch has to choke on one
>>283478434The future Supreme Lord.
>>283485545Pretty bad it seems
>>283478434>>283478467Altus must'be gained some of the fire powers from the fire witch, because he just burned the shit out of those evil women
>>283478617I ship them.
>>283485130No, he left
Is Helem the new main character? Did the author get bored of Julian?
>>283485483>disobeys his direct order not to fuck with Diana and provoke a self-fulfilling prophecy, gets a score of gifted fighters killed for the sole purpose of resurrecting them as her own private army, defiles the corpses of two of his childrenThe King cares not.>Murder a few of his civiliansYOU WANNA FUCKING GO, BITCHES?!
>>283485955Helemanga
>>283485829based
>>283484877>If you're ordered to ejaculate, you'll probably ejaculate right away. That's awesome>No, you can't skip the masturbation process... If you're ordered to ejaculate, your hand will start masturbating on its own.Kek
>>283485955Yes, from now on she will be the one to accumulate a harem of women who want her dick.
>>283485963they specifically recruited gifted ones that had no relationship with the court, it was a bunch of killers for hire and one girl from a village
>>283481649they are in the territory that was once Rummis' and was conquered during the war Arkos ended when he was 10 years old
>>283486203Zana's village is still part of the kingdom, they swearing fealty to the King is another business
>>283478434Holy based, redemption arc soon?
>/a/ hated this chapterwhat the FFUCK happened?
>>283478928>>283479260Arkos I think is a red herring and foreshadowing attempt for Big Lady to get Big Mad when ordered to kill /ourgirl/ and then attempt to rebel against Helen
>>283486524Anons not so keen on evil women after said women do actually evil things
>>283486524I actually really liked it for based Altus calling out those two retarded bitches for being what they are
>>283486524you say this every chapter weirdo
>>283486524>>283486501>1 minute and 2 seconds apart
>>283486627>Ichi fujos read Centuriawhat the hell? But there's no fujobait here
>>283486685Are you sure about that?
>>283486524Altus being a good boy was cool but Helem became too mustache twirling evil which is a bit different than her usual cute self
>>283478434>>283478467>>283478495Arkos is something out of Helem's control so it would be funny if he comes out for 30 seconds, thinks she's annoying and just kills her, accidentally dooming himself to be stuck inside Altus because Altus from there on just kinda chills with Zira somewhere calm.
>willingly antagonizing one of your thrallsThat ALWAYS ends well
>>283486879Two things can be true at the same time, Helem is both a slutty lesbian bimbo sadist and a mustache twirling Machiavellian sadistist evil bitch
>>283486524I am bored of mud dolls and Helem. It's not bad to be predictable, I prefer that in a story. The Lacrima twist is interesting, but ultimately Helem spamming her power and reviving everyone in short order kills any interest I have. Like >>283486531I think Arkos and his whole thing is to develop something where the mud dolls break free. Either influenced by Diana's other or their souls surfacing. Helem effectively is the first real antagonist. She's a mirror to Mira's motherhood and Mira freeing Julian.Helem enslaves everyone. She doesn't seem capable of forming actual bonds. Sidenote, my guess that Helem's hatred of family is that Gifted ones seem to be part of breeding programs.
>KGRB thread was way faster than our threadit's over...
so can the mud zombies get pregnant or not?
>>283478274This shitposter has some major issues.>>283478434Well now we've got the voice of helpless basic morality in their party.
>>283487141
>>283487049Do you think Helem's power has a cost? It seems that nearly every actual ability in the story isn't free.99 except for the supreme king and maybe Julian. It seems a bit insane to allow Helem to be spamming her technique with no repercussions as a story thread. What would stop her from just razing the town at night and then mass invading with clay golems?
>>283487141>it's literal magicI would think so, clay-people like Enkidu have historically been fully capable and the setting seems to take a fair amount of inspiration from Gilgamesh
>>283487201>It seems that nearly every actual ability in the story isn't freeNTA but it's the opposite. Most gifts have no cost aside from casting time and it's the rare gift like Lukas' tree spear that has some kind of cost to it.
What's the trope called where the villain enlists a henchman so vile and unsettling even they feel uneasy in their company?Because I think Elstri is going through that right now.
>>283487201Helen is supposed to be one of the strongest gifted ones, but she herself is quite weak. Having an army of mud people is nothing compared to Arkos destroying entire cities. Also she can't even assemble an army of gifted ones without them being massively nerfed. She only seems overpowered because she got Altus/Arkos.
>>283478495...it should have been me.
>>283487305https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoreDespicableMinion
>>283478802okay what the fuck. this is a bit too much. i didnt mind helem's edo tensei at first because when it was first introduced it sounded like some super ultra secret trump card power that took massive effort and expenditure. but now apparently she can just do it willy nilly?
>>283478274>>283478495>>283478766Is there such a thing as a woman being too evil bros?
>>283487201>What would stop her from just razing the town at night and then mass invading with clay golems?What are going to do those peasant golem against an actual army, let alone a powerful gifted one?
>>283487326>>283487282That's interesting. I just can't see her being defeated without some plot bullshit happening if that's the case. I feel bad for the golem dudes since they seemed to be interesting characters pre-lobotomy
>>283478434>>283478467Fuck JulianALTUS IS MY HERO!
So are we getting a second thread again, or was that just a one time thing?
>>283487305"even evil has standards" or something along that line i believe
>>283479977Some take a lifetime before learning such a lesson some, like me never really do.I kneel Chadtus
>>283487385We're about to find out anon>>2834874060 individuality zombies fighting with too little willpower to be hindered by the brain's limit on muscle usage might be army tier but gifted ones are mega OP. Reminds me somewhat of Bugle Call
>>283487414>I just can't see her being defeated without some plot bullshit happening if that's the case.What? She's a normal human physically speaking. A random guy stabbing her in the back is going to kill her. It's not like she only lives in a remote citadel and only interact with puppets.
>>283478434I can sense something being coming for Helem, an award of some sort...
>>283487357>literal first example is Erenfucking kek what
>>283485066She felt her pussy buzz for a man for the first time in her life.
>>283478434BASED ALTUS EVIL WOMAN HATE
>>283487440Not enough happened. Evil woman established as even more evil.
>>283487492That's not narratively satisfying unless she narrowly escapes death and then gets cornered for her misdeeds aka plot bullshit I think it's just anathema to story telling to have her get killed before her puppets are overwhelmed and they seem rather capable
>>283478495>All that shit talking and can't handle a bit of banterkwab
>>283487560Julian already killed all of her puppets once with the exception of Altus, and now they have a weaker gift.But if you want to talk narratively she is going to be fucked by her own hubris 99% of the cases.
>>283478467>what the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch?
>>283478617Titi confirmed for most powerful character in the series.
>>283479702>>283483304I think this time was more uniquely so that she could assert control over Altus and mindbreak him now that he's experiencing independent thoughts
>>283487642Remember when Julian killed Angval?good times
>>283478870Anime soon brothers.
>>283487752Well, from a certain point of view...
>>283478434TRVTH NUKE
>>283478467>>283478495> there's nothing I love more than seeing the horrified looks on others' faces. I'm always thinking about how to upset people> no, not like that!lmao, poser
>>283478434I miss my prince's smile...
>>283487539She already felt that when she met the king the first time
>>283487752I was talking about gifted ones, but fair. Still let's not pretend Angvall Vs Julian is going differently from Angvall Vs Arkos, if you disregard the huge psychological factor of the fight.
>>283481649none else got them ugly ass eyelashes
>>283487963It's just going to be a rehearsal of that time Angvall was trying to kill Julian, only this time for real
Fellow evil women enjoyers, who has the bed with toys page?
>>283478434holy shit i love him now??
>>283478434>>283487880>when she sees her wimpy son
>>283478802I really wish Helem hadn't done that, it's going to be hard to redeem her now
>>283488211my queen
>Helem this some nasty ass sadism i hate u so much but the pussy game ridiculous
>>283487049At least this chapter set up her imminent defeat. Words like these >>283478274 are a blaring signal a villain is going to suffer a humiliating loss not too far in the future. Of course "imminent" can still mean a fairly long time when reading weekly.>She doesn't seem capable of forming actual bondsThat trait is presumably reserved for Eire. It would be very unusual for an early villain to have the most severe form of a thematically relevant character flaw. Helem's words and actions point at her suppressing her capacity for love, but it does exist in some form. If she really never cared about bonds or morality, she would have nothing to be jaded and insecure about.
Will Altus befriend the witches
>>283484918Made his dick explode
>>283489226>a blaring signal a villain is going to suffer a humiliating loss not too far in the futureWhat are the chances she survives that loss in your opinion?
>>283489678not him but she'll probably survive and stay humbled if Arkos is anything to go by.
>>283487141We don't really know. My assumption is that Helem's gift was inherited from a Blessed person who actually could rez the dead, but the assumption that the gift weakens is wrong. They likely distort.>>283487201My assumption is that she doesn't actually understand her own limits. That's being set-up. Or that people like the mindbreak knight can mentally fuck with her and her dolls to the point they are a liability against someone like him/ her.>>283489226I think Eire is framed by Helem's assumption of who she is and what she thinks wants she. I think Eire is the end game villain and is planning to pull a Lady MacBeth. Helem, I think, was broken and lacks the ability to form bonds/ is envious of others. I think the Queen had Lacrima made into a mud doll to test Helem and try to understand her gift. It's why Helem is confused at the Queen losing interest in her. My issues with Helem is the yurifags and the mud dolls getting old very very quick. Her character is fine in bits, but she's throwing out tortured to death flags or pushed into the mud to asphyxiate while trying to make a doll. She's becoming a very boring antagonist.
>>283478274I HATE EVIL WOMEN SO MUCH BUT THEY MAKE MY DICK ROCK HARD
>>283478434>>283478467I kneel holy fucking shit, he's more of a character now.
>>283478839zira altus sex when
>>283489961Altus/Arkos does not fuck the maid.
>>283478590>>283478617Altus being a real one. holy shit.
>>283489977Do you think they were just cuddling here
>>283478870As rightfully so. This is so good and I hope the author continues making kino.
>>283489999I forgot about this, I was thinking this one was some woman he found somewhere.
>>283489999>>283490071They were kind of cute together, if you ignore Arkos being a psycho
>>283490071>some woman he found somewhere.Yes, Zira.
>>283489836i certainly hope that's the outcome, i've placed my happiness in your words
>>283490086
>>283490087Am I fucking dumb, is this her with her hair down??
the evil woman action this time was just kind of bland, but Altus being a good boy is interesting
>>283490108
>>283490120How'd you miss that
>>283490120Yes.
>>283490139> when she was a child> looks about the same age as Arkos so he was also a child probablyThey're basically childhood friends, this is adorable
>>283483617NTA, But even if you really like evil, hypocrisy is just a fundamentally unlikable trait. I don't mind necromancy, I don't mind killings for the lulz, I don't mind what is basically necrophilia, I don't mind the very apparent sadism and hatred for family values, I don't mind the addiction to rageaiting people, but cracking after a simple remark like that just makes her look like a bitch. Very realistic though.
>>283487528As the person WITH the minion.
>>283489999what's with volume extras and pillow talk?but also nice quads
>>283490209I mean he might also murdered her family and city in a flood
>>283489879She will recognize love in her final moments and give control of the puppets over to Elstri before getting turned into minced meat by Julian
>>283490664Honestly, I'm half expecting Elstri to eventually join the protagonists. Helem feels like she might get mindbroken by the brainwashing knight and used to make an undead/ clone army for the Queen.
>>283490756That would take from the reader the much desired satisfaction of seeing Helem get fucking blown to bits.
>>283490756>she might get mindbroken by the brainwashing knightNow that guy (Veselka) actually looks like an end game antagonist. He also probably has something to do with the King's state of mind.
>>283490842I'll be sad if Helem dies because I think a lot of the best moments are thanks to her, I'll accept temporary brainwashing correction thank you
>>283478434Artus, I KNEEL.But I also want Helem's foot in my face.
>>283480997Would he funny if Helem neglected Elstri to play with her new toy. Meanwhile Elstri at first glad starts to crave their passionate night's and daily flirting.
>>283489879this is a manga about family, Helem is an evil mother that doesnt think she's a mother, the queen is an evil mother that thinks she's a good motheralternatively they're both evil mothers that exploit their children, the first to do evil woman hijinx and the latter to get attention from the supreme lord
>>283490842I feel like there would be a poetry in her being turned into a slave. It’s what she’s done to everyone else so far.
>>283478740Shouldn't they still be hiding Altus? After all, they were deathly afraid of being found out by the queen.
>>283491868They are hiding Altus, Helem ordered him to kill the only witness, that's why she did it, it wasn't just because he was annoying despite what she may have said
>>283491902Who's to say there was nobody else nearby? Will they exterminate the whole town afterwards since they will have seen him shopping? Everything easily avoided by putting the mystery nigga cloak back on him.
>>283492181I mean Elstri threatened to exterminate the town Julian was living in, I wouldn't put it past them, considering that I'm actually surprised at Elstris reaction
>>283478802Anyone feels sorry for elstri? Granted this was her own doing but she's always getting the short end of the stick and not only she had to sell her body but she's now just a puppet in her own scheme
>>283478562Planting the seeds for Lacrima to resist her commands, if Ocean mom doesn't straight up cancels it like she did with Arkos
>>283478972>>283479351Last chapter we had her hoping the queen wouldn't hate her, it's pretty obvious someone she loved ended up hating her now she's just seething at happy people
>>283478839>Hates violence>Recognizes that Julian and the rest all genuinely care for eachotherI'm hoping Altus can reconnect with the group and he can warn Lacrima about what she is.
Why is the art getting worse the longer this manga goes on?
I LOVE EVIL WOMEN>b-but she actually has no morals>h-how can she do all this>i-it's all so tiresomeDID I FUCKING STUTTER
>>283478434oh look, a self-insert for the good goys
See you in two weeks, Familybros. Graaah!
>>283492218>>283492203Elstri may be ruthless and callous when is anything regarding Diana and co, but she's still someone who's supposed to work for the good of the kingdom, so killing a random civilian because he's a nuisance is something too much even for her, specially when we've been shown the king really cares about his subjects and war victims still, don't feel sorry for her though
>>283492896Thank you Your majesty, please show these posers
Why does Helem have rinnegan eyes now? Only the King had them.
>>283492218A puppet? Helem is loyal to Elstri and has only done things to benefit that mission, she's not at all a puppet
>>283489999she just warmed his bed
>>283493010See ya!
>>283478274>>283478205stupid sexy evil woman
>>283493010Graaah!
Still waiting for art of Helem's huge cock and hairy balls.
>>283493131Always did
>>283492864It's charmingly wonky as always, dunno what you're talking about.
I think I hate evil women.
>>283492218>feel sorry>for the obnoxious shitstain that can't give the most basic respect to the person her entire life revolves around, let alone any random person
>>283478495altus will never know the love of a mother...
>>283489646When will she get a break
Last for Elstri
>>283493394Last for the superior blonde evil woman, Berta
>>283478274ill fucking choke the life out of her
>>283493368she misses her shota...
>>283478617the power of introspection, how does he do it in just a week.
>>283478274> i hate the moral of the whole storyok
>>283493708The moral of the story isn't just love your family though.
>>283493708She hates it because obviously Family has betrayed her in the past, which is why she went from people pleaser with a twisted power to full sadist, see>>283479814I'm sure we'll find out what happened a few chapters before she's redeemed and lives happily ever after
>>283478894does a person's sin start counting once he realized he is sinning?
>>283483350Elstri and Helem are essentially Team Rocket and Diana is Pikachu
>>283493923I could not have expressed it better myself...
>>283478766So how come here it shows Atlus having to immediately kill with no control as soon as he is ordered, but here nothing happened at all? Same order.
>>283487305Like Stalin and Beria
>>283494045She had to give the order a second time for Altus to do it.
>>283478766Okay this made me rock hard, even more so than usual.
>>283493414My wife and future mother of my many children.
>>283494257she fucks horses though
Do you think Helem programmed Lacrima with her own rape tendencies, and that's why she tried to force herself on Julian?
>>283492864The art has always been inconsistent. It seems to me like he has a good sense for which pages are important to focus on details on, and all of the other, less impactful pages, he doesn't sweat the small stuff.
>>283478839Altus is 100% gonna flip whenever the Lacrima card is sprung.>>283478894A tool cannot commit a sin.
>>283494164not really, she orders him once >>283478766 and only insists because he's actively resistingwhen she tells him to kill the incest shota or the spikes dude Altus just goes (...)
>>283494377>A tool cannot commit a sin.I can't tell if you're making a reference to something or just using logic I've seen in other stuff without necessarily getting your logic from there.
>>283494566Just working off of the blurb spelling out that it's basically just Helem beating the guy to death with an Altus shaped hammer
>>283494566Altus acting on Helem's commands shouldn't really count as his own sin, we even see him protest against it during the action so she's basically just pulling the strings of his body.
>>283494712Okay, because you definitely had me thinking about Danganronpa.
>>283484877heh...
>>283495011
>>283478230If its such a good plan why didn't she try it already
>>283478467>Is hurting people just a game to you?Yep and it was also a game for your predecessor altus>>283478495Rifing with insecurity, she was mad because everything he said was the truth
>>283478532So they have their own thoughts and feelings, I don't see how this could possibly go wrong
>>283478802>No sense of right and wrong
Last call for a second thread.I won't be making it, but if it gets made I'll be there.
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