Why did she do it? Out of everybody why choose Ichise?
>>283522132figuring that out for yourself is the magix of Texnolaize. I would not deprive you of that, o flesh.
>>283522132>Out of everybody why choose Ichise?What makes you think that? The whole town was defending her at some point
>>283522132holy fucking YUMMERS!
>>283522210I figured you esoteric fags would say something like that.>>283522300 She chose Ichise specifically to witness the end, learn to let go of everything, find inner peace for ascension so he wouldn't have a craving to go back for yet another cycle, at least for a long time.
The way the second to last episode starts with a montage of what's happening in the city makes me think it was supposed to be an entire episode that they cut. I've never seen this mentioned anywhere so it's just conjecture but the way the shots are made for the montage with the characters talking to each other isn't really the usual way you would frame this type of sequence. Specially the part where the guy who runs the lights at Lux dies
>>283522370>The way the second to last episode starts with a montage of what's happening in the city makes me think it was supposed to be an entire episode that they cutthis conjured some "it's the records of some past civilization, something like a documentary" theories but it was caused by konaka not being able to write the screenplays for episodes 19 and 20 in time in a way that he was satisfied with so they just skipped to 21 and put a summary like that for the people following it weekly on TV
any other schizo /x/ tier animes I should watch?
>>283523050the devil lady, witch hunter robin, gilgamesh, ergo proxy, speed grapher
>>283522132Yoshii did nothing wrong
>>283523610Now that is a philosophical debate one can have with that meme.
>>283523050Sci Fi HarryBoogiepop PhantomNight Head GenesisGenocyberFeast of AmritaMalice@DollGalerians
>>283524165Galerians was shit.
>>283524317anon should watch it and decide for themself
>>283524165Boogiepop Phantom was so fucking kino
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>>283522132Pretty blue eyes.
>>283522343But she didn't want to witness the end. She initially drifts away from Ichise because she's scared by the vision where he destroys the city (which doesn't happen, she only sees one possible future out of many).I think she simply found him impressive, love is not that complex.
>>283522132I thought her hair was hotdogs
>>283527284She can communicate telepathically, read the future of the person she is communicating with and near the end of the series maybe astral project if we are to believe that the visions were not hallucinations. She also has some influence with fate when she told the one guy not to move forward or else he will die. It also looks like she allowed herself to be captured during the war. This leads me to think, just how much of this entire event was secretly orchestrated by her? How much influence did she really have? Why do the Japanese love loli's with godlike powers so much?
>>283531282>read the future of the person she is communicating withA single one, that may or may not come to fruition. One out of essentially infinite possible futures. She can try to use this knowledge to meddle with the outcomes, try to avoid it, but she doesn't quite control fate.>It also looks like she allowed herself to be captured during the warI don't see this. Her guards are killed in the battle and shapes take her.>Why do the Japanese love loli's with godlike powers so much?I don't know but I too would like a god-wife. Loli or not.
>>283531803Remember when Yoshi tried to shoot Keigo, the guy who had the Katana and was the head of the Organo? How he said to randomly turn in the car to avoid being shot? That was Ran the seer communicating with him to avoid his death.
Texhnolyze is edgy done right.
>>283534302Well yeah, that's more or less the extent of her abilities. She sees him getting shot, ambushed (though IIRC it's all very blurry for her, she doesn't know details in her visions, mostly just the outcome) and can try working against it.
>>283535967So that's it for me, just how many more people is she influencing. Is it limited to people who are texhnolyzed? How many more ideas is she planting in peoples heads to subtly move them in a certain direction. If you can sway all the pieces of the board like this your predictions of the future will be much more clear. The Greeks and ancient people thought that their ideas came from higher beings such as Gods and not even themselves.
>>283536242IIRC she only talks that way to Onishi. I am not sure if she can look into possible fates of non-texhnolyzed at all, but she only does it for the texhnolyzed in the show. You are working backwards towards this idea that she is some mastermind, but there isn't anything in the show hinting at this. She hates her gift and we are told she can't use it that well.
>>283535930"edgy" as is used on 4chan a 2009 irony millenial pop culture insult. Hating anything that takes itself seriously and with tragic gravitas is what lead to the endless onslaught ERM THAT JUST HAPPENED hollywood movies and video games
>>283536455Another point for me is that she guided Ichise out of the sewers. She could have just gave him directions via the telepathy but she wanted to be more intimate and used the flowers instead. There is just too much evidence in my eyes to think it is any different, especially with how esoteric things get with the surface world.
>>283535930Everything that happens, happens for a reason. It doesn't overplay it's hand to show how horrible something is for awe, it shows enough to get the idea across and the emotion it want's to convey.
>>283522132Maybe he was the only one that could trully love her in the end, without caring about what she represents in that society. Or he was just a pawn to bring end to Lux
>>283536720>intimateSure. I don't see how this is a 'point' for you, though. She fell in love with him. I can't change what you see but personally I fail to see how anything you brought up is an evidence of anything... rather just finding enough ambiguity to insert your own, very negative projection.Still, I am curious how surface world fits into your creepypasta interpretation.
>>283536887That's why it's done right.
>>283537295I thought we were having a respectful conversation and now you are acting like this. And this isn't negative projection at all, the fall of Lux is actually a good thing. Not because it was a hopeless world with suffering, but because it was a world that had all the life sucked out of it, a new world needed to be rebuilt so passion could properly flow again. The surface dwellers are already showing signs of craving and longing and sure enough they will want to build a new world again to cast themselves into it to feel human again. The surface world is the world of the dead for they hold no pain, and with no pain comes no motivation but the pain of boredom is slowly creeping back into them. They do not fear death because they can't truly die, only forget who they are to be reborn again. This is why Yoshi was the way he was. He knew the truth and he had passion. The body dies but the soul doesn't. You could say I am reading too much into it but I genuinely believe this show has layers and it is trying to say something.
>>283522132She could fix him
>>283537775I consider making Ran into the ultimate 200 IQ manipulator who removes all agency from rest of the cast through her 100000 steps ahead plots to be somewhat negative, yes. Pretty much for everyone involved. Whether you think Lux crumbling is bad or not is up to you, but it was ment to happen either way, everything dies. I don't think there are any signs surface worlders are itching to descend, they are described as having given up and simply waiting for their death, they don't care. They show does obviously say something, or even many things.
>>283538265Ironically, the one guy I'd see kickstarting a new descent into the city is the old guy who agrees with Ichise that there is still life in Lux.
>>283538265It's less about having 200 IQ and more about how easy it is to manipulate people if they think the thoughts in their head are their own. She isn't controlling others directly, people still very much do things in accordance to their nature and make choices. That is why some predictions don't come true all the time. Even if she didn't manipulate the major players it is hard to deny that the scope of her influence is truly unknown. The surface dwellers still have a small amount of interest with what is going on in the city. They asked Ichise once or twice that they would like it if he stayed here and even though they wouldn't help with the war, somebody did help him recharge his limbs. Of course you could say this has to do more with compassion then a longing for friendship but I still think the potential of attachment is still there.
>>283538489>It's less about having 200 IQ She'd need 200 IQ to make such hyper convoluted plot work... for whatever reason. >if they think the thoughts in their head are their ownBut 'they' don't. Oonishi chalks up his success to the voice as separate presence, diminishing his own achievements.>her influence is truly unknown. Sure, why not. You can fit whatever you want between the scenes you are shown under the guise of "it's maybe possible she could do that, if she wanted to", can't stop you. I just don't see why you are doing this when Kano exists.
>>283538956You need 200 IQ to cause chaos? To string people along with what they desire? Are you displeased with the idea that you think I am claiming that the people had zero agency or that Ran could even do such a thing? I am aware that Oonishi knows that the voice isn't his own, but it is not hard to imagine that somebody else could come up with the conclusion that the voice is their own. Again, it goes back to the idea that the Greeks had that ideas were not their own. I think Ran knew that the city was just a playground and wanted to kick over the sand castle. It fits the idea of gnosis well.
At what point you are supposed to understand that Lux is located underground? Either my reading comprehension failed me or I'm simply dumb, but I only understood that close to the time Ichise ascends to the surface.
>>283539296She uplifted Oonishi, guy who specifically did not want 'chaos', rather he put an end to it. Then she saved him from Yoshi, who DID want it, and would've likely succeeded with Oonishi out of the picture. It just doesn't stick. >knew that the city was just a playground and wanted to kick over the sand castleThat's Kano to whom in opposition Ran decided to kill herself.
>>283539528>At what point you are supposed to understand that Lux is located underground?When you see the orange guy traversing the stairs down a gigantic hole.
>>283539664That's the only thing I don't get with my theory, I can only guess she needed Oonishi alive still or wanted him to be alive for other reasons. One of the reasons why it feels to me why this is all is, is because of just how slothful she was with letting most of these things happen but that is pretty much all the characters in the story.
