>"THIS IS LE BIGGEST FIGHT EVER THAT IS GONNA CHANGE ONE PIECE FOREVER">Haki clashes into STRONG HAKI and fight done in one chapter>Everyones too retarded to figure out that the monster they fought before did something for rocks to turn on them but a fodder soldier figured it out for dorry and brogy>Garp is still in the marines despite fighting literal satan and he never questions it or brings it up>God valley wasnt an interesting political or character motivated story that ended up having interesting character stakes and moments on why garp/roger teamed up and why they fought the rocks pirates but instead just LE MINDCONTROLLED EVIL DEMON POWER INTRODUCED A DOZEN CHAPTERS AGO>the political motivation for pirates was literally just AWOOOOOGA HOT BOOBIES (this crashed the one piece market btw)>garp and roger dont even really care that rocks is crying when fighting him>nobody in the One Piece world ever bring up this event again or talk about seeing imu/saturn do those evil things and pretend rocks barely exists>whitebeard literally did absolutely nothing about kaido, oden and wano>infinite haki clashes and offscreen fights throughout>garling hyped up just to be offscreenedThere's no defending this. Hyped up over half a decade ago as one of the biggest and greatest events in one piece for a nothingburger and all we really learn is a few tidbits of davy jones shit just like the vegapunk speech. Fuck this series
>>283584224This is why I stopped after he fucked Kuma and made dragon look like a do nothing bitch "Ginny kidnapped? That sucks"Not to mention Kuma literally has teleport powers Rocks was the best thing about this flashback and shakky got more love from it then god valley rocks got fucked by imu in one chapter and then bitched for le Roger Garp hype in the next oneNo rocks dying to protect Kaido No Kaido sad about what happened to rocks no big mom sad no White beard sad they just fucked off to never care about this nigga againFucking trash Fishman island was the last good one piece arc
Haki ruined One Piece
Dead thread
>>283584479It's been there since chapter 1
>>283584537Kys
>>283584537No
>>283584537True. Oda created the best masterpiece in human history, I am sure nothing in the past or in the future will hold a candle to the ultra complex masterpiece that One Piece is. The foreshadowing is absolute
>>283584224STRONG HAKI?!? It's not like the fights in One Piece were deep before, but at least there was variety and creativity.Now everything comes down to black lightning vs black lightning.
>>283584347>He missed the part where they said the was no camaraderie amongst the Rock Pirates, only the strongest.Lol, how does it feel to be so illiterate?
>>283586473Youre fucking retarded The first thing white beard shiki big mom and Kaido do is btfo the traitorsEveryone of them but shiki pulls up to help rocks in the fight against imuDid you miss what rocks told whitebeard right before rocks got 1 chapter'd
>>283584224>"Uhh... Wabi Sabi">"There, now everything is okay">t. jap
>>283584347>Fishman island was the last good one piece arcthat's such a shit arc lol
>>283586631It was the last good arc that felt like an adventure manga with mystery that's wasn't your princess is in another castle trauma bait pornEvery strawhat still has some of their personality before oda made them gags
>>283586473Oda really gave us this cool ass spread only to do nothing with it and have everyone throw out jobber named attacks Fucking insane
>>283584224One Piece ended when the Straw Hats all died to Kuma and Kizaru at Sabaody. Everything else after is just fanfic garbage
>It´s another episode of anon not understanding HakiIt´s not that hard...
>>283587433Haki isn't genetics DOE
>>283584224Yeah, One Piece kind of sucks right now. But I'll still read it because I really want to know what's on Laughtale.
>>283584347I thought Kaido at first ate the magikarp devil fruit that turned him into the dragon only after he ascended into Wano up the waterfall like in the actual asian legend, getting dragon form after 1 bite is just too lazy. I swear to God I remember it explained like that in one of the first Wano arc chapters
>>283584537No he simply attributed that scene to Haki after he created it.
Has usopp does anything yet
>>283587742He used haki that one time
>>283587742Nothing since dressrosa oda literally does not care about the other straw hats that aren't japanese self insert Zoro or Luffy Its crazy how much personality Zoro lost after the time skip non of the straw hats feel like friends anymore
>>283588171Sanji did some cool stuff in Wano. Though I dropped the series after gear 5, so idk if he's done anything else.
>>283584224Good, fightfags need to fuck off.
>>283588400But the biggest point was also that the story was also a terrible nothingburger despite being hyped up as one of the greatest one piece reveals ever?
>>283584224Why did IMU just possess Rocks when he stormed his castle if it was that easy to take his body?
>>283584224I was about to get around to catching up on Elbaph since people seemed interested lately and now you tell me it was all for nothing? Is OP just overreacting or is it really that bad?
>>283588563Well there's a lot of dicksuckers sucking off this arc so it depends. Personally I think that it was terrible and listed why I think its bad (since im OP) but people think rocks is a pure kino character and he is but his fate was very generic and obvious and everything around the events of god valley i think is pure fucking garbage and not worth wasting like half a fucking year of readers time for. It wasnt some kino like marineford, it was just a bunch of slop, AWOOOGAS and haki clashes
>there's a lot of dicksuckers sucking off this arc All in her head?
>>283588937I had basically that problem with Wano and ended up skipping it as a result but Egghead was much better, at least reading it all at once. The way you put it makes it seem like there might be a nugget of gold at best like the Roger flashback and Oda has learned nothing. Guess I'll wait for the next massive lore drop or foreshadowed event to pick up One Piece again.
>>283588517Plotfags get the rope too. Goofychads and Gagchads are here for the ride
>>283589457>Egghead was much betterEgghead was dogshit ngl. Last 4 arcs have been terrible overall
>>283584224>My headcanons were not met so it's shitEvery time.
>>283589496Someone listed out the issues a while back and I couldn't really argue but I still think it was good thanks to (most of) the exposition, even Kuma's backstory for the most part. It made me a hell of a lot more invested than a bunch of literal whos watching Luffy mouth agape or one Straw Hat acting completely retarded to advance the plot.
>>283589496egghead, elbaph and punk hazard are the only good post-timeskip arcs
What I don’t get is why it’s such a meltdown for whiny fags like OP when someone else enjoys something they hate.
>>283584224Domi reversi is the biggest asspull in shonen history, nu-Oda is a such a shit writer
>>283584224This has to be bait or retardation.
>>283587433Willpower is literally Haki. Like literally, they just arent translating it because its "cooler leaving it in japanese", like "nakama".
OP is a sunk cost fallacy for me. I can't wait to shit up the threads when Oda ruins his manga one last time with the One Piece reveal.
OP peaked here. You can't convince me otherwise.
>>283588171that's sad, the author could have used the timeskip to reshuffle the crew; get new people in and some old people out. have some of the older crewmembers persue interests other than piracy and display growth. there's nothing wrong with moving on. though I suppose that much might just be lost on the man-baby author of this work.
>>283587742not a fucking thing. They'll reach imu and usopp will still be scraping his nails on a chalkboard.
>fight done in one chapterdid you want 100 chapters of pic related again?
>>283590036There's no way he nails the ending, and even if he does he'll still get shitted on because after these decades people's expectations are way too high to be reasonably met
>>283587486How many CoC users are related to other CoC users?It might as well be genetic
>>283584224Don't let D. Oor hit you on the way out.
>>283590370
>noooOOOOOooooOOOO the story made for teenagers isn't perfect without any plot holes aaaaaaAAAAaaaa I hope someone got fired for this!!!!Spergs.
>>283590458>this argument againYou're underestimating children. They're more intelligent than what you think. As a kid I was already criticizing anime and videogames I played.Also, children deserve a good story too. Maybe even more than we do, as they can learn from them.
>>283590510>As a kid I was already criticizing anime and videogames I played.And you never grew out of it. How sad is that?
>>283590540If growing up means just accepting everything face value with no inner thought then I'm the biggest man child of them all.
>>283587742No, Oda clearly only wants to write about Luffy traveling alone or with nami /zoro sanji at most, but he is forced to carry the entire boring crew for merchandising
>>283584224What a garbage thread, OP. You couldn’t write a better story if your life depended on it. You could spend decades grinding and you still wouldn’t sniff an ounce of Oda’s success. One Piece is a masterpiece, and no matter how much your talentless ass rages and cries swearing, "you'll drop it this time for sure," you’ll come crawling back for the finale and reveals just like everyone else.
>>283588517Obviously you're entitled to your onions but how was it a nothingburger? It set up the whole yonko system and the backdrop for luffy's adventure>Rocks out of the picture>Roger devotes his life to finding "the secret">WB forms a crew based on loyalty and brotherhood>Kaido forms a crew that he wants to challenge him to become stronger; it fails and he becomes a depressed old alcoholicAnd then obviously roger's actions set up the rest of the plot
>>283590555Have you every considered that there might be things that are more important than whether a cartoon for teens has minor plot issues?
>>283584224>>"THIS IS LE BIGGEST FIGHT EVER THAT IS GONNA CHANGE ONE PIECE FOREVER"Said the faggot retard in his head and based on nothing at all.
>283590649>every
>>283590674You fucking pizza, they've been hyping up God Valley for 4 years straight.
>>283590150this fight was so good before the jesus fruit retcon
I never get it why grown ass men and women cry about manga made for actual children (boys), like what the actual fuck. If you are over +18, it's not based to bitch about Oda's decisions.
>>283590925>theyThe voices in your retard brain are not real people
>>283584224>Everyones too retarded to figure out that the monster they fought before did something for rocks to turn on them but a fodder soldier figured it out for dorry and brogy>garp and roger dont even really care that rocks is crying when fighting himEmbarrassing. You lack the skill to even critique properly. Oda's masterpiece will outlive your attention span.
One Piece no longer has a fandom. It's a cult of lunatics who accept any garbage that Oda comes up with.
>>283591091>Odas masterpiece>HUEKHUEKHUEK GOMU GONU NOOO DOOON GAAAANNobody will bother to try to catch up on 1000s of chapters just so the pay off can be the MC being some goofy deity chosen one
>>283584224I'm giving a break to OP manga and anime because they are moving soooo slowly. Will binge them in the future.
>>283587693Oda doesn’t care about this shitshow anymore. The hack thinks he can make some cool lore off fruits just to retcon them later
>>283589934>Willpower is literally HakiSource?
>>283591764It's been 28 fucking years and it's still on going. Even fucking Pokemon anime (the anime we all expected to last forever to advertise the games) finally ended few years ago.
>>283584479Literally has. You could argue that Oda hadn't yet figured out the exact details of how it's gonna work, but it's undeniable it has been around since the beginning. >Shanks scaring the sea king (CoC)>Luffy understanding Shuu (Voice of All Things)>According to Krieg, Zeff knew of "some way" to to deal with DF users (Haki)>Arlong holding a dying Zoro and being scared by him (CoC)>Crocodile's "He isn't using water, how did he hit me? Is he using----No! It's blood!" (WHAT did he assume before he realised it's blood, but after realising it's not water? Clearly he was referring to Armament Haki)>Blackbeard literally uses the word Haki in Jaya>Mantra in Skypiea>In Drum, Hiruluk described Pirates as having "body of a stone" (armament), "eyes like an eagle" (observation) and a "voice that tears the sky" (CoC)
>>283591801It was revealed to us knowers in a dream.
>>283591882Dammit, this was meant as an answer to >>283584537
>>283591801>Haki is a Japanese term with literal meanings of "willpower," "ambition," and "spirit."
>>283591882Robin owns me a titfuck.
Why are is there a huge subset of OP fans here who get asshurt over any criticism regardless of whether or not it's valid and can only move to dismiss it or spam "grr u hate fun" rhetoric?
>>283584479>>283584479Can't help but agree, haki is bleach's retitsu
>>283584224>One Piece finally fixes its snail pacing after W*no>readers complain because the fights aren't dragged out anymore
>>283592063everyone with a penis…
>>283584224Sword fights in One Piece nowadays have no choreography.
>>283594701They never did.
>>283593983We haven't had any fights since Wano. Egghead was a random clusterfuck of chaos and the fights with Lucci weren't serious, Elbaph hasn't gotten started yet, and this latest one is a flashback (i.e. abridged).We'll have to see how much Oda drags the action part of Elbaph; for the last 15 years he has ALWAYS made the action parts of arcs last longer than one would think they should, hell I'd say that's almost a lifelong tendency for the manga -it's only gotten worse but the tendency was always there since at the bare minimum Skypiea.
>>283594809https://youtu.be/6Pn64jRYK_o?si=3NuMsGqd6vDmlgnl
>>283590639No he he's right it is bad even especially with how the future yonkos react. You see a giant black blob that's seemingly unkillable stab your captain and make him grow massively in size with wings and fangs, yet not tie it to why rocks betrayed you? They don't even reflect on Imu/rocks and instantly go back bickering about shit like with big mom complaining about the devil fruit to kaido so it clearly didn't affect them in anyway. It feels like the characters were forced to behavior stupidly in order to explain why they don't really think about rocks while simultaneously making this a problem by having them attack Imu so you can get a epic moment. If they never encountered Imu it would make more sense why they believe rocks willingly betrayed them.
Everything since Nika has been pretty shit. All this destiny garbo is like Naruto but worse.
>>283595192We know, OP
>>283593983There's a happy medium between an overly long climax fight and DOUBLE SPREAD DOUBLE SPREAD DOUBLE SPREAD DOUBLE SPREAD DOUBLE SPREAD DOUBLE SPREAD DOUBLE SPREAD.
>>283588520Theories are that he can only use it on your 'home' base. We'll see.Either way OP seems to be a fightfag retard who showed up at MF or later.
I feel the issue is that Oda hyped it up so hard to make it seem like it'd be a 4v2 with Garp and Roger against Kaido, Big Mom, Whitebeard, and Rocks, when in actuality it was>Garp and Roger having minor altercations with Rocks' crew>Rocks "fighting" (offscreening) Garling despite his hype, effectively killing all momentum his character and all of the Holy Knights barring Shamrock could ever have>Everyone 6v1ing Imu, which actually just did jack shit because he's a regen merchant like so many shounen villains before him>Demon Rocks one shotting Kaido and Big Mom>Roger and Garp actually fighting Rocks for one chapter total before God Valley simmers downI feel that inevitably the One Piece itself will have the same issue because Oda's set it up so hard that unless it contains an IRL cure for cancer it'll never live up to the hype.Anyways, in a FUCKING AMAZING double spread...
>>283590458no one following one piece is still a teenager.median age is probably late 20sthe comic is old as shit bro
>>283591081It's more like when things go as expected these kind of people have melt downs. The flashback is here to show basically what we expected, why the team up happened and why the giants need help immediately or they WILL be killing each other off.Really all that's left is to see if it's Luffy or Loki who can 'undo' the mindcontol.
>>283595365GV feeling rushed is tragic but I can understand being worried about people to complaining that the flashback is to long since we still have Harald stuff. I think however this won't be a problem for the rest of one piece Except the final war which will have a lot of exciting battles offscreen and clashes so like marineford but worse.
>>283584224Making every old legend a haki god is just really fucking boring.I don't even want to see the Roger crew's fights, I know he's just swinging his sword really hard and the other dude dies.
>>283595477Hakimen can have some level of variation but the real boring shit is swordsmen. They have no variation in fighting styles at all unless they have a Devil Fruit.3/4 of the major players in God Valley (Roger, Rocks, Garling) are all swordsmen whose fighting styles consist solely of "slash someone but not enough to tear off a limb or kill them, they're basically just blunt weapons that sometimes make people bleed".God bless Garp for not being a sword wielder like them. Man knows how to spice things up.
>>283590038agreed. back when each crew member had interactions w/ each other and actual DEVELOPED personalities. not to mention, they weren't instantly out they're HAKI MOGGED
>>283595546Oda decided to spend 2 years without writing the crew focusing on just Luffy + BIG WORLD LEVEL LORE and spending pagetime on an endless onslaught of secondary characters getting miniature scenes.Then he had to do a complete reset after the timeskip and come back to the previous pattern, and he simply couldn't. His storytelling style became stuck in Marineford mode where secondary characters become more prominent than centerpieces, and he started giving more attention to island of the year people instead of the actual core crew - something that had never happened before.
>crappy good guy pirates get cucked>every legendary pirate is either a simp or fraud>cuckrines submit to your every whim and give you endless harem of ginnysWimu can't stop winning
>>283586698That's zou breh
>>283595477That's what i assumed years ago but ths problem isn't that but how haki isn't fleshed out and has no variety that's the actual problem
>>283596041im convinced he saw the love that the Noland arc got during skypia and decided he can recreate it... im just fatigued by it happening literally every single arc. sometimes, we don't need to know what every single dipshit did via history books. overexplaining takes away so much of the wonder of an unknown world that leaves nothing for the fans to wonder and debate about, so all they do is meme and argue about who's stronger
>Dropped this crap during early Wano>Live action made me pick it back up>Dropped it again during the start of ElbaphI'll just speedread it when Oda dies
>>283596041I gave up on reading OP its been a while now and its exactly bcs of this. I loved how early on, especially pre-timeskip, the story focused on the main crew, their interactions with eachother, their growth and how each island changed them.And then the shit starts feeling like video game levels where you have THE POISON ISLAND! THE LAVA ISLAND! THE CANDY ISLAND! THE NINJA ISLAND! THE SCIENCE ISLAND!. Every main crew character has been literally the exact same since they got reintroduced. The story no longer focuses on "This is the island, and this is how the characters react to it" and instead "this is the island, and how it reacts to the characters.I wish the mysteries remained mysteries.FUCK Oda and FUCK all of you disgusting brown indian mexican powerscaling fightfagging cocksucking lorehungry slopgobbling NIGGERS who enable him and just FUCK NIGGERS in general I am RACIST
>>283596364No wonder Wimu never do anything, if the best of Pirate is just bunch of Simp, and Davy (for all he know) is extinctedThe only blunder is Nika fruit, and i blame GoroCHUMPsei fuck up as usual
>>283596548bro got progressively mindbroken as he typed. ODAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>283587693>Make up headcanon>Convince yourself it's real>Get mad when it's notThis explains One Piece fans to a T
>>283596556i still can't stop laughing at how retarded these two "goats" arenot even a real motive to go to Godvalley and our King Rocks just gets cucked by Wimu in the dumbest wayi'm putting all my stocks on Wimu now. the pirates are retarded and my favorite Kidd is deadI can only hope GoatBeard avenges his father
>>283590038Nope it was very basic to this point, it peaked in potential afterwards but didn't live up to it post time skip
>>283584479No not really
>>283596730No it really did. But Haki was necessary because Kizaru is the first enemy that is literally invincible unless you have some kind of special force field to hurt him with
>>283596759No it didn't it was the execution of it rather than the idea, otherwise it's a very good idea, also there are problems in the series other than haki i wouldn't even consider haki to be one of them you are just scapegoating it. I would say the same for nika as well.
>>283595516That's just been how it is in OP from the start. Oda can't do sword fights, so the flash has to come from attack start/end poses or someone using an element somehow. And I've complained for decades at this point about how swordsmen can't dismember until the plot says so. Dudes slice buildings, often swords to pieces, the moment zoro started cutting cannonballs in half is when EVERY swordsman near that level should have been dismembering the utter fuck out of everyone on a battle field, but no, their swords really are all just blunt butter knifes.
where's the chapter nigga i'm sleepy
>>283590649>How dare you discuss anime and manga on /a/
APOLOGIZE
not a really big fan of OP but a couple of months ago i managed to catch up and started following it weekly (or biweekly)i just don't give a shit about GV, i hope it returns back to elbaf soon but i also don't particularly rate that arc either
>>283597079I'm sorry that, despite everything, Naruto is STILL worse than One Piece
>>283597478unfortunate truth
>>283597021>whining and ranting counts as a discussionSure, Anon.
>>283584224>Oda 4 years ago: "So yeah, there was a a thing called god valley">Oda 2 years ago: "Remember god valley?">Anons interpretation: "GOD VALLEY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE SERIES, YOU WILL FIND OUT WHAT THE ONE PIECE IS, WHO BUGGYS FATHER IS, SHANKS BEING A RAT, AND EVERY SINGLE THEORY PEOPLE HAVE COME UP WITH FOR THE PAST TWO DECADES! THERE WILL BE COUNTLESS GIANT FIGHTS EVEN BETTER THAN MARINEFORD WAR! YOU WILL LITERALLY DIE FROM EXCITEMENT!"this whole "hyping god valley" happened solely by fans
>>283597821It is pretty obvious that OP is a story for retarded children given how the general is filled with shitposting about powerscaling. It is obvious that OP has gone to shit.
>>283584479Haki surely ruined fights in One Piece. It might be the dullest power system ever made. Haki punches, haki sword strikes, none of it looks interesting or distinct.>DUDE IN THIS EPIC SPREAD FAGGOT AND RETARD HAVE THIS AMAZING HAKI CLASH>it looks like every other haki clash in the mangaI want to strangle leakers for real.
>>283597882Gurarara then drop One Piece.
>>283598047Haki feels like an imaginary power system. Two guys hit each other, but this time it's "important" because they're producing lightning. Then you have CoC which can do literally anything the plot needs it too.
>>283584224You must be completely fucking retarded if you don't understand why haki is symbolism for the main themes of the story. Maybe you should start by reading real books
>>283598108If Haki is supposed to be symbolism, then the symbols are shit.
>>283587742He lost his timeskip gains and is skinny again
>>283598108>haki is symbolism
>>283584224I gotta admit, a lot of the magic has been lost ever since Wano fell flat for me. Everything gets hyped up as THE critical moment of the series, only for it end up like every single other event. All the interesting shit is happening in the background and we only hear about it between arcs.
>>283598530Get off the fucking internet, stop reading /opg/, genuinely touch the grass and keep away for a few months. The hype is in your fucking and the utter brainrot drivel of the general. You probably also watch anime focus youtube, so that's not helping with your overstimulated headcanon.
>>283584224would it have been better if rocks was evil? rather than imu being the only true enemy I think evil rocks would've made it more interesting
>>283598593He was a piece of shit in his early years, similar to Harald.
>>283587693You're right, and cocksuckers are gaslighting you. His fruit is called the fish-fish fruit. The implication was exactly as you stated.
>>283589888>luffy brings people to his side>he liberates them>hes started to 'make them believe in themselves' to fight backSo I think the story is a oppression (control) vs free will, or a order vs chaos. We'll see where Imu sits on this, he could have taken over in an altruistic manner (holy shit AK is going to end the world if they keep going, we must stop them) and been corrupted with time, or was a warmonger from the start.Nika probably has a mindcontrol effect as well.
>>283595417Yeah, okay, but it was fucking BORING
Again, it's the problem with Nu-Oda.Rocks shouldn't have been a thing, or not like this. Instead, ROGER should have been what Rocks was presented to be.Instead what we got is that Roger was Proto-Luffy. A clown. And not even funny chill like Shanks, but just straight up "lol lmao everything's so fucking hilarious you guys"No, im not coming from a DARK PIECE place. Rocks is also silly. But the TYPE OF SILLINESS is also important.Luffy unique branch of humor should be that, unique. But by making Roger pretty much a carbon copy, it ruins both characters.Its no wonder why so many people considers Roger a "fraud" and are glazing Rocks so hard, because what this manga needed was what Rocks representsA FUCKINGPIRATEAn actual pirate.Not a manchild who thinks life's a carnival.With Luffy is "fine" because honestly, everyone accepted already that Luffy is barely an actual character, and more of a force of nature that represents "Freedom, Fun, etc", and the story is just the world and its inhabitants reacting and being changed by him, rather than the reverse.More reason why making Roger like him takes away from both.
>>283596424Nah Fishman island still felt like one piece and the plot of it was so good because we knew after it we were going to see the new world this wonderful chaotic and dangerous place that stopped being interesting after dressrosa People complaining hordy and his crew were weak in the straw hats time skip arc meant to show how much they grown seems like such a very poor excuse to complain they didn't like the narrative of fishman island which was racism and hatred There's no way these people wanted Luffy to struggle against Hordy and the new fishman pirates like he did against fucking crocodile
>>283596662I really wish oda had Rocks push Kaido and Roger out of the way of a domni reversi paralleling Ace saving Luffy it would make Black Beard killing ace more tragic
>>283598835Dude, Roger was always meant to be a clown. Why the fuck did you expect that crocus, ray, shanks etc to say he's so similar and expect the most gruff highly calculating individual?
>>283587693That's too high brain for Nu-piece. Now shut up and do the basedjak face.
>>283584347>Not to mention Kuma literally has teleport powersRead fucking slower you retard.
>>283584224I dropped it during egghead and have had no desire to pick it back up. Just endless dogshit for years and years
>>283584347Where is Ginny kept? Please tell me.
>>283598771>20second mp4 for a 1 second loop
>>283590038Thriller Bark was better
>>283598047>>283598084Because Oda changed mc cooperating with his crew to take down the villain to use Haki so Luffy is the strongest and doesn't rely on his crewIt's funny how Oda really wants to make his own dragon ball and the crew became a burden for him
>>283589524It's always the same thing with this kind of autistic rants
>>283598965It's literally impossible to catch Kuma unless a WG goon teleports right next to him with the power of plot, or they capture Bonney. The former is unbeatable, the latter is easily mitigated by being on the run together with Bonney. Kuma was a moron to agree to the lobotomy.
>>283584224garp realized that imu is just way to strong so he rolls with it
>>283584224>I'm over 1000+ chapters deep in but I think I'm done guyssee the problem isI just don't believe yousee you next thread
>>283584224>Yeah fishmen arc was bad but this is a warm up !>ok punk hazard was underwhelming but wait for the next one>yeah dressrosa's pacing was atrocious but the next one is the real deal ! >zoo is a pretty fun build up for the next one but why does the strawhats feels off ?Whole cake island is really good except for "the cake"...> Let's fucking go !!! WANO !!! we waited so long fo ... it's dog shit ...Yamato the tans daughter of kaido that is really op ?>Ok gear 5 is really interesting and look like it's bringing the og piece fun back ... wait ... the chosen secret op god fuit all along? really ?>Hey egghead is starting to look goo... It's run piece againKuma's backstory is great >ELBAPH !!!! the arc teased at the peak of op !!! The crew is immediatly divised and Sauro is backThe strawhat sadly died at sabaody and the post timeskip is a shitty fanfiction with some highlights .I loved OP so much but i can't stand this one piece of shit anymore...OP is better in theories than in manga and op fans imagine it better than it is as cope.
>>283587486come onit totally is when Luffy showed he had conquerors at marineford they were like 'oh yeah that's not surprising he is the son of Dragon afterall'
Why the fuck did anyone expect pirates to have political motivations? If it wasn't Shakky it would just be to steal treasure
>>283587693why would Big Mom want to turn baby katakuri into a magikarp
Why do people expect Garp to automatically assume that the giant demon spider that appeared from nowhere is government affiliated?
>>283584224I stopped reading when nikashit reveals happened and Luffy got super saiyan mode. Good to see I was right.
>>283598728>Page One has the Dragon-Dragon fruit>what the fuck why doesn't he breath fire?
>>283584224You forgot something, this is a fucking flashback INSIDE OF A FUCKING FLASHBACK. WERE NOT EVEN DONE YET.
>>283584224Just do what I do, read chapters every now and then (as in whenever you hear something cool happen you just skip to the latest chapters), you get caught back up via osmosis (I haven't touched One Piece since Fishman Island but I got a good idea of what happened in every arc past that) and just mainly read chapters that focus on your favorite characters and that's it.Don't read it expecting kino, cool fights or cool panels. Having high expectations will only lead to disappointment.
>>283584224It feels like Oda stopped caring since Wano and it's on automatic from now on.
>>283599497It couldn't have been any ordinary treasure. The crown jewel of Hachinosu was always going to be something extraordinary to make the entire Rocks and Roger crews to show up together.
Everyone ITT so mad or sad about the flashback.Me? Don't care! SBS said Yamato will be back soon. Yams for nakama is still on the table and there is nothing you can do to make it go away.
Sure, OP is bad, but it's simply crazy how almost know one in this thread, whether detractor or hanger-on, has a basic grip on the inflection of nouns and conjugation of verbs in English.
>>283599772no she has to be the captain of her own new crew with Page-1 and Ulti as her co-captainsobviously
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>>283599009>I'm looking for a new slave she recently was captured pink hair around 29>Oh you mean saint charloss new cum slut she's probably getting tag teamed right now but she she be around as soon as Saturn stops giving her blue crystal stds
>>283584347>Fishman Island>GoodYou had me till that. That arc is unironically one of the worst arcs in the series period.
>>283599331He told me to read slower but ignores mindless Kuma teleported from Ivas island to marijeous and then just dipped on akainu
>>283599879Let's hear your criticism surely its notThe pacing! The villains! Or some other answer that's equally shit
>>283591801>eops think that haki is just some made up word for the magic systemIt's literally just 覇気
>>283599895>your argument can't be the obvious answers that everyone universally agreed upon for over a decadeOkay despite those being objective reasons for the series sucking I'll give you another one. >Fishman are just niggers>We are all one race the human race shtick>woke neo-liberal virtue signalingAlso, the best part was Koala and only because she became a revolutionary.
>an entire thread of new fags larping as old fags with paragraphs of nothing
>>283599919See I told you it's all just hatred of the racism narrative
>>283597840>>283598576Ragebaiting faggot
Fisher tiger is the goat Did what dragon and Kuma with their devil fruits were to scared to do
>ONE PIECE SHOULD HAVE ENDED HERE AND HERES WHYAnon just kill yourself
>>283599958>muh racismfuck off to reddit. I also got into the series during Arlong Park where this whole thing was done way better.
>>283599772>soonSo in 5 years at least
>>283599989It was done great you retard and the fact you still post about it like it's hamfisted when Luffy punched the shit out a celestial dragon shows you don't understand anything that's not subtle
>>283597017Wrong thread
The mind control is definitely the worst part and feels like a cop out to actually writing Rocks in a way where he had to make tough choices instead of just turning evil. The fact that this is the final boss ruins one piece even more.
>>283584224>"THIS IS LE BIGGEST FIGHT EVER THAT IS GONNA CHANGE ONE PIECE FOREVER"Said nobody. Hypebeast shit really got to you head man.>Everyones too retarded to figure out that the monster they fought before did something for rocks to turn on them but a fodder soldier figured it out for dorry and brogyI think the flashy demon circles, and people hearing Imu literally might have had something to do with it. Rocks' build his entire crew on the premise that backstabbing was fine to begin with.>Garp is still in the marines despite fighting literal satan and he never questions it or brings it upLiterally explained in this chapter, moron.>God valley wasnt an interesting political...It's time to just stop posting.And the rest is just more deluded drivel. Good thing that all that crying won't stop Oda. WorstGen and Black are this way retard-kun.
I think OP is a massive faggot. Fucking awful thread for the spic spergs to come out and “I drop at Nika” new fags larping as old >>283599436>>283599541>>283599745
>>283600009probably the prologue of Elbaf.
>>283600010Brother, you don't understand the series at all. The whole series is about naming the Jew.>Government that does historical revisionism to maintain power>Sees everyone else who is not a CD as goyim>Believes in genociding their host nations when they are no longer of use>One of the MCs is literally a product of eugenics Pic very related.
>>283600049>The whole series is about naming the Jew.The whole series is about systems of oppression and bigotry The main character is literally the god of freedom reincarnated and regardless of what other people say Luffy being the god of freedom is amazing Gear 5 rivals super Saiyan as an all time transformation
>>283600097Yeah freeing yourself from Jewish subversion. Luffy is the anti-thesis to what Jews want on a fundamental level which is control. Jews want to>Control the banks>Means of production>The family unit I could go on but you get my point. The world government literally genocided everyone but Robin and the giant at Ohara for just looking into the history. Very similar to how its illegal to question the holocaust in Europe.
>>283600031Its not even the mind control it's the fact that oda had Rocks just carelessly take that hit Why fuck didn't he have rocks save Kaido from getting attacked Why didn't Kaido cry from rocks why didn't white beard big mom is a bitch so I can understand it but to have her not even care is so stupid they literally stuck with this dude when the rest of the rocks pirates revolted shit makes me so mad when oda does thisTakes a cool character and cucks him because he can't be assed to draw two more pages of him doing something noble as his final momentsImagine how kino it would have been if he took the attack from imu saving garp Roger big mom and kaido and white beard and then turned to them saying >You idiots are slowing me down get out of here Before coughing up blood and then getting domi reversi d It was right there instead he gets rage baited by imu and goes out so pathetically
>>283600139Holy fuck go back to pol
>>283590038Marineford no diffs this arc.
People angry that Rocks gets beat by hax is not even that big of a deal. Imu narratively is supposed to be broken more of you need to read Jojos if this Imu vs Rocks fight upsets you. He is also still the GOAT.
>>283600230You aren't wrong about that just wish he died doing something instead of like that
>>283600097>Gear 5 rivals super Saiyan as an all time transformationListen, I genuinely love Gear 5 and feel it was a good logical next step for Luffy’s abilities but this is going a lil too far.
>>283600253Even there we still got Roger's flashback that hasn't been fully fleshed out. I wouldn't be surprised if he rose to even greater heights than Rocks considering he is the pirate king. Also when Dragon vs Imu happens its going to be hype as hell too.
>WAAAAAAH MY FIGHTFAGGOTRY ISN'T FIGHTY ENOUGH
>>283584224I sometimes skim through threads and chapters whenever I check /a/. I dropped OP during or a little before Big Mom's arc. Things were already boring back then and headed in a direction I didn't care about. Bleach and original Naruto were better in that regard, cause at least they properly ended "on time", while this keeps dragging on and on and on...
>>283591801>Source?The manga.
Aight bros enough of this negative nancy’s ragebait thread time to pack it up and take it back to the general.
>>283599880>but ignores mindless Kuma teleported from Ivas island to marijeous and then just dipped on akainuRead. Slower.He threw himself at the bottom of the Red Line and had to spend multiple chapters slowly climbing up while taking cannon fire. He can't just throw himself to the top, Oda literally spelt it out for children and you still didn't get it.When he did make it up he was instantly confronted by Akainu and heavily injured even though he was only making a quick stop in Mariejoa to go to the new world. Non-cyborg Kuma would've died even making it up, let alone running around the city looking for Ginny.
Get on my level I drop this shit every month.
>>283600097>The whole series is about systems of oppression and bigotryCringe one piece is not woke trash no matter how many people want to believe that
>>283584347>This is why I stopped after he fucked Kuma and made dragon look like a do nothing bitchAnd yet you're still here
>>283586724>spreadNope.
>>283584224I never had any expectations for God Valley, so I'm not disappointed with what we haveI don't really care about legacy characters, most of em are dead so who gives a shit, most interesting thing about this flashback is just seeing what the world was like a long time ago and learning some interesting stuffBig problem for me is that I'm not really interested in Imu, feels like a dumb and tacked on character to meNot really happy with the direction One Piece has taken for a while now
>roger will send imu home with hakiRoger's haki bored imu into going home
>>283600605Tbh I pretty much didn't bother keeping up only rocks reveal made me keep tabs before oda made Kuma get cucked and give a trauma porn backstory to emotionally manipulate an already good character rocks was the most interesting character to me dude was average size(was until the reveal)and he had white beard big mom and kaido as his subordinates and lo and behold he was an awesome character his design wasn't what I expected but it definitely did grow on me I love that he's basically an anti teach an honest upfront moral dude strong as shit too before he's now my favorite character since oda made dragon a literal "I'm sorry your gf is getting piped by celestial dragon cock" he was my favorite character him and Kuma and it's hilarious oda managed to bitch both of them in some unnecessary as lore dump like he did he even did the same shit to rocks with Harald even when Harald betrayed him rocks couldn't bring himself to hate this guy he'd given his friendship too once the flash back is over I'll go back to how I was before only being informed when random images come across meOda fucking fumbled kumas to elicit some trauma porn emotional reaction and fucking dragon was collateral damage
Couldn't Kuma kill pretty much anyone by just using his fruit to send them upward? They'd die from no oxygen/freeze. They'd be sent to fucking outer space. Luffy was sent flying for three damn days and nights.
Rock was and remains a boring character.
>>283600916It’s okay Imu we know you’re a major faggot
>>283600019suck my balls nigga
>>283600895it clearly isn't simply imparting kinetic energy, he probably needs to think of a p[lace he's been to
Hey guys I wanna rule the world lel
>>283600381Nah, I'm good. I remember the good old days, a century ago now, when I was so fucking hyped about the Rescue Ace arc, I obsessively refreshed all kinds of early spoiler Chink sites. This really was a long damn time ago. Fuck...
>>283584347>fishmen island was the last g-lol, lmaoI use to joke that flashback land was a completely diferent One Piece and that as never been more true, the story is just so incredibly disjoined.
Did the rock cry because he realized just how cringe he was?
>>283600333>>283601078This is pretty much how I feel about it though I dropped it a bit after you. I'll probably still lurk around to be disappointed by the one piece reveal.
>>283590038Last time everyone had a dedicated opponent since then its been Luffy takes on the main bad guy and 2-3 underlings, Zorro takes out the right hand, Sanji takes out the 3rd or 4th and the rest team up to take out any other named enemies/mooks or cheer them on in the background. I'd like to think this will come back whenever they fight Blackbeard but I can see them having Luffy take out half of them just cause.
Big Mom is coming back for Elbaf, isnt she? all this nonsense about Kaido's lifelong debt to her must have some kind of payoff, like absorbing Kaido's life to survive the magmaplus Katakuri asked Luffy to defeat BM more or less, and he never ended up doing so
>>283584347>whaaaahhh whaaaahh why didn't it go the way I imagined it would go!?
>>283584224Oda isn't even sure when his own series will actually end.
>>283601502It's just difficult to continuously like a series for 20+ years. I remember watching the 1st season of OP on TV as a kid in my early teens. Eventually enough is enough. Same deal with Detective Conan. Dropped that even earlier than OP. That thing will likely last until the author croaks.
>>283602345In 5 years. It's always 5 years.
I don't get it.
>MY HAKI IS STRONGER THAN YOUR HAKI!>NUH UH MY HAKI IS STRONGEEEER!When did you get tired of Hakipiece?
>>283602480Sheen this is the 500th time you've said "in 5 years" in class.
Even the nips are getting tired of it.
>>283590622>>283591091>>283589870>>283589524>>283599276Holy Shit and i though only Reddit was full of dick sucking faggots.No matter how hyped OP is nowadays i can guarantee you that when it ends and if it ends like shit(As it is most like to do so) then people will forget and move on from it like they did with other shows and works of fiction (GOT, SNK, Naruto etc.) only leaving the most autistic perma fans, you can cope and seeth all you want, but the fact is ever since the time-skip OP has been on a downward spiral and this arc is just another example of it. Also OP is spot on with his points
>>283604472
>>283604472Unironically the formula itself is not bad, as long as it was done well, the problem is all the elements that made that formula great has been greatly lacking>Head to a new LandWe spent a few chapters here and there exploring the new island but it's all surface level, ever since Dressrosa, we stopped learning the history of the islands and thus they simply became empty attractions>Meet a Strong enemyAgain the strong enemy also used to have a strong and interesting personality, Kaido Was nothing but a Drunk brute with barely any history of him revealed to us. Big Mom had interesting backstory, but her present self was retarded (literally), Gorosei were just "SCARY" demon monster with barely any personality etc.>Flashback to the pastThey are hit and miss for me, the issue i have with current ones is that after the flashbacks we don't get a satisfying payoff to them, Kumas FB was amazing but the fact that not only him Hitting Saturn didn't really accomplish anything, but him actually surviving and even potentially having his mind restored renders his sacrifice mute( Essentially what happened to Might Guy), Pudding's flashback had 0 relevance to the story since she erased Sanjis mind, thus rendering his journey to the WC worthless>Power up case by case basis, but sadly as the time goes on the power ups all amount to just Oh now they can use "BETTER HAKI">It's a feast!!!Unironically i have no problem with this in a vaccum, but a feast only works as a conclusion to a satisfying arc as a release of pressure, but since the story up to that point is shit than the release doesn't work
>>283604511What a fag, fuck other mediums, let them worry about adapting books or mags to their medium, instead of other way around, also people been claiming the death of printed media since 80's and people still read them Though i won't lie that the quality has gone down considerably, ODA is like Lukas and Spielberg, who claimed that 3D would be the next big thing only for reality to hit them in the face. Or how MTV though that the Video would kill the Radio, yet Radio is still going strong
>>283599813>know one
>>283604493It's strange. These are the only threads on the board where anyone acts that way, even despite at least half of /a/ being comprised of shounen. And if you bother to look inside a chapter/episode release thread, it's all characterfags with nothing to say and an occasional theory post, literally nothing else, feels like a different planet.
>>283599772God Valley is great and I miss Yamacute and Cuteku and Ulticute.
>>283590510>Also, children deserve a good story too. Maybe even more than we do, as they can learn from them.
>>283598835>Roger pretty much a carbon copy, it ruins both characters.Luffy is a practically asexual pure boy, at least Roger had a sex drive to him. Also him being goofy with his crew makes sense, its also where Shanks probably got his more lax side to him. We haven't gotten to see Roger's "cool" side because none of the flashbacks have had him being pitted against anything serious, save for this one instance with Rocks.
>>283584224oda has been writing this manga since 1997. That's nearly 30 years. There is no other franchise on planet earth that has gone on for so long and not seen a massive drop in quality. I feel like it is berserk all over again meaning you have a really cool initial story with a bunch of ideas but as time goes on and you actually try to flesh out those ideas you end up with a bunch of contradictory gobble gook with the story progressing at a snail's pace. oda realized the life of a manga writer isn't that long so now he has to rush the shit of everything further declining the quality.Remember it took 13 years to get to the TS in 2010, it is almost 2026 so another 16 years since then. Go back and read chapters pre TS especially around the water 7 arc. Compare that to any chapter within the last few years. It's like comparing a season 5 episode of the simpsons to a season 25 episode. The quality of the earlier episode is so much massively better than the more recent iteration that you can hardly believe it is the same IP anymore
>>283606338This except HxH.
>>283606376>has been writing this manga
>>283587715prove it
>>283604483I get that Speed is a One Piece character but jannies really aren't doing their job
Me remembering that the anime is switching to the 25-episode model with ONE CHAPTER PER EPISODE and no guarantee that there won't be filler anyway.Even if the manga ends at some point in the future the anime will still be going on and we'll likely have ONE PIECE ALL OPENINGS 1-100
>One Piece hate thread turns into /pol/Yeah, figured.
>>283605523You're... forgetting someone...
>>283591904No, you had it right the first time. You didn't want to admit it to yourself but you agree with anon that haki ruined One Piece.
I was expecting Garp and Roger to develop some new way of using haki to beat Imu but I guess not
>>283587715Oda does appear to think ahead for his plots, but at the same time he could also just be really good at bullshitting too. We'll never know until the Brazilian Luffy kid he’s so horny for does a metoo when the Netflix money stops rolling in.
>>283607434Only because it’s a roundabout dragonballification of the series. Effectively it Ki but with different species. Can haki users sense and hide their [ha]ki level yet? It’s only a matter of time.
>>283608222>really good at bullshittingThis
>>283604798I feel my issue with the Gorosei is that they all are meant to be imposing but none of them have any defining personality traits. They're just old ass classists who like to call people of lower standing insects. Trying to describe the personality of one of them describes the personality of all of them. Only Garling and TOPman barely break from that by being even more and less racist respectively.Comparatively, the Holy Knights work better because they have actual distinct personalities. Killingham is lax but competent and gets shit done while Sommers is a bully. They have actual defining traits that help them stand out, which the Gorosei lack.
Imu ruined the manga. One Piece was far superior when it didn't have a literal ANCIENT EVIL HAS AWAKENED plot.
Imu saved the manga. One Piece was far inferior when it didn't have a literal ANCIENT EVIL HAS AWAKENED plot.
>>283606981I see 1 /pol/ tier reply chain that ended 100 replies ago.
>>283600097Luffy re-installs monarchs literally everywhere he goes. The "freedom" is from foreign interference. At most you can say it's anti-imperialist and anti-globalization, but it's definitely not against aristocracy and hierarchies.
>>283604511the manga is just a glorified storyboard for the anime, and the anime is just a training ground for sasuga western artists.
>>283607214Oh! And Cuterrot, of course!
>>283608509Yeah literally Naruto but with pirates.
>>283608129Nah Imu will be stabbed by black zetsu
>>283608835Yay =:3
>>283590970Luffy had no business keeping up with Kaido before Gear 5
>>283600097Luffy is literally white war Elbaf is about stupid King destroying culture of elbaf to appeal to outsider.
>>283598835If Roger was like Luffy he was actually cool.He could have defeated Rocks easily without garp helpImu would have only care about Roger and not Rocks We wouldn't have seen Roger simp for Shakky but Shakky would have been simping for Roger
>>283584537>wan piss was always shitOH NO NONONONONO
>>283609131You will soon learn that base Luffy is stronger
>>283584224knew the story would drift further into shit the moment luffy beat kaido with a big punch
>>283590970How else did you expect Luffy to win?
>>283600097Oh wow, so the retard who is ragebaiting trying to pretend One Piece hasn't gone to shit is also the retarded "One Piece is political faggot". Must suck you spent so much time and effort on a series that very likely will end up complete shit.Fishman Island will (has) aged poorly. Can you imagine being Japanese and reading that in 2040? Yeah, won't hit the same.
>>283609482Strong haki
>>283601923iirc sometime around Dressrosa Oda said in an interview that the story became so big he doesn't have the time to give everyone a dedicated opponent like in Alabasta without drawing it out even more than it already is.
>>283608299Gaban has a line that could be interpreted as the god knights hiding their haki
just drop it, i think i dropped it in the middle of egghead and it feels great people need to stop with the sunk cost fallacy shit and start dropping things, i also dropped csm like 6 months ago, dropped the SnK anime after the shit manga ending, dropped MHA at like season 2
>>283590510What is this from?
>>283584224Just read the chapter. It seems stupid they're confused. Wasn't everyone there when he got stabbed by Imu "yo man rocks totally changed after he got stabbed with that attack but i'm totally confused on why he's acting like this". Kind of a lame rationalisation. I laughed when Garp can do gum gum gatling without any kind of fruit. Thinking on it, they probably could've just run away, there's no guarentee that he was going to stay like this forever; they could've just trapped him on the island
>>283609989Conquerors don't run. That's kind of their entire thing.
>>283609960I dropped CSM and MHA very easily since i dropped CSM after part 1( plus part 1 ended in a way that you can stop reading and still have a fulfilling story) and with MHA i realized what it was turning into by the arc were the evil league fought the Jobberutionaries as for SNK and OP unfortunately i spent far too much time being invested in them and simply dropping something that you invested literal years in is much harder even though you're right that it would be more right to do it Also Omega, but i read that one just for memes here
>>283609973Japan Sinks: 2020
>>283584479Shitrot ruined One Piece thread
oda royally fucked up how he depicted xebec. hes too cool charismatic and strong af why would we care about roger anymore? xebec is the guy we thought roger was
>>283593983One Piece has always had rushed fights. The snail pacing is unrelated to the length of the fights. Wano despite having the slowest pacing had some of the most rushed fights in the series.
>>283584224I agree with all of these
>>283590038Forgot someone
Well the good news is the Rocks vs Garp and Roger is going to be really well animated when they get to it next year
>>283597478Does the Shippuden distinction exist for the manga too? There's a pretty solid case the first part of Naruto is better than current One Piece even if it goes bad eventually. It is still very fascinating to me that pretty much all the big, "good" shonen went bad when allowed to continue long enough. That we are even comparing OP to Naruto would have been unthinkable at some point in time.
>>283584224>garp and roger dont even really care that rocks is crying when fighting him.>Chapter dropped, first 2 pages: Rocks is bawling like a toddler and both legends acknowledge it. Your doom- scroll brain skipped right past the leak, huh? Dopamine-fried zoom-zooms can't wait 24 hours to start sperging. Eat the L, fag.
>>283598875Luffy actually struggled too much and it was dragged out for how they weak the fishmen were and zou was just as interesting while being short and sweet, i don't see how there is a cut off after dressrosa if anything the best arcs aren't the typical one piece arcs ie alabasta dressrosa fishman island skypia etc it's the ones like zou saboady and impel down
>>283610406I dropped MHA cuz it was never interesting but thinking of getting into CSM i liked JJK and SNK overall
>>283584224This gives me no hope for final war.People complained about Imu appearing on Elbaph through Gunko,and the whole domi reversi bullshit because we wanted stuff about the giants.It's Elbaph, not demon island. And don't come to me with that "el baphomet" bullshit even if it turns out to be true.So the giants' flashback started, then going to child Loki, then going into Rocks and into god valley.Only for its climax to go back to Imu and demon domi reversi bullshit.It's like a guy apologizing for having stabbed you, and then he goes and shoots you with a gun after you had recovered.
>>283604472This is why the One Piece arcs without this kind of plot are simply superior
>>283596364>>283596556>Imu ruins the series for the fans and for the characters inside the story.That's a meta villain.
>>283604493>>283605431Pissfags are genuinely mentally ill. This is not me trying to poke fun at them either. They're literally incapable of logical thinking after years of consuming nothing but garbage. Look at any other fanbase, in any other medium, and you would find that constructive criticism is most often encouraged. Even cancerous fanbases like Star Wars and MCU that deify their products and make them their whole identity have a decent percentage of critics within their fandoms. Honestly, If I were prime minister of Japan my first order of business would be to execute Oda given the sheer scale of literary terrorism he conducted on youth brains. When I see a pissfag on the internet these days my reactions are that of laughter or pity. I know their brains have been compromised by Oda, and that there's no point in trying to course correct or help them see. It's simply over for them.
>>283611635>wow, I can't believe we will see the Rocks pirates crew in action. All its members.The only ones that did stuff were mostly the yonkos. Not even Shiki did a single important thing.Gill Bastar was shown to have four arms previously, also his corpse had 4 arms in Thriller Bark.The fishman guy didn't do anything either.
>>283610765*Yamato
>>283590038gods I was strong then
>>283610837>well animatedThey're going to be flying around with lasers shooting beams
>>283591882Haki multiplying your strength was the mistake. Touching logia and hitting through armor with ryou is ok
>>283612603Same principle though. If you really really want that and believe that you can do that.
>>283599436Yes, One Piece after the timeskip went right to trash. Namis new design was the final nail in the coffin for me.>The strawhat sadly died at sabaodyI never thought about it that way, but you're right. everyone basically died during their timeskip journeys. we're just watching the one outcome of 14 million timelines where they all actually survived
>>283600097>Gear 5 rivals super Saiyan as an all time transformationYou are not wrong. Gear 5 was the Fortnite moment for me
>>283587742ESL
remember when oda retconned how many traesure chests there were for the tournamentor how hachinosu didn't have the skull eyes when it did beforeor rocks and roger clashing before he got turned into a demon which never happens here
What's Uranus going to be, living creature of some sort, WMD level object or some third thing?
>>283599009sabo infiltrated the holy land like it was nothing. fisher tiger did the same. rocks same. giant robot yup same. Fuck even laffitte infiltrated. dragon could have sent some guys to look for her they literally found enslaved kuma
>>283609960>i dropped it in the middle of the least shitty arc in decadesI don't understand how you made it through Whole Cake and Wano yet broke to that.
>>283600097>Gear 5 rivals super Saiyan as an all time transformationIt would have if OP wasn't a pile of shit.
>>283613580Sabo: tunnel hax, probably the best method they could have used to rescue ginny, was he even with the revos at the time? IIRC he was still in ID.FT: slave, escapeeLaffitte: sent to a specific location, known meeting placeThe problem is WHERE is Ginny kept. Run around a whole lot like Sabo, FT, Kuma, Bonney or Rocks and you draw attention. Want to find a particular person in some other random persons basement, you'll need to infiltrate and blend in.
>>283606338>There is no other franchise on planet earth that has gone on for so long and not seen a massive drop in qualityJoJo
>>283584224>AWOOOOOGA HOT BOOBIESI can't take seriously anyone anymore in this series, when a big intimidating figure like Rocks goes gaga with heart eyes I just cringe and lose all immersion... and yet I'm still reading. Fuck one piece honestly.
>>283611595MSNA clears
>>283615047women (boobs) have been the downfall of countless great men. Nothing wrong with portraying that in a cartoonish manner
>>283584224I dropped this shitshow after it turned out Buggy was somehow needing to loan money from Crocodile
>>283608509Did a lot of people never question the gorosei even 20 years ago?>top of the GW>how do they get this position?>when did they get it?>are they voted in, by the WG nations?Years later, sabody>holy shit CDs are comically evil elitist class>hang on gorosei operate from MJ, the CD land, just who/what are they really, are they CDs, do CDs vote? are these guys the only non-retard CDs?
>>283615080What's that?
>>283615094>women (boobs) have been the downfall of countless great menSuch as?
>>283584224you're so disingenuous and if not, actually retarded lmao Hope you post another thread like this when the final war happens with everyone returning to help fight Imu.
>>283608509I'm just praying to every god who will listen, prevent Oda from making Imu a woman, otherwise we're gonna see the most kid gloves handling of the fuckin devil because he can't help himself.
>>283615047You sound like a massive faggot
>>283616010Whatever you say faggot.
>>283584224>the political motivation for pirates was literally just AWOOOOOGA HOT BOOBIESI don't think anyone even tries to defend this. It's objectively shit writing
Every arc since the timeskip has been dog shit. You're just noticing now because your frontal lobe has developed
>>283616124I accept your concession
>>283600097>Gear 5 rivals super Saiyan as an all time transformationLOL in what universe? Going super saiyan is cool af. Nobody wants to be a laughing toon force bouncy man. One Piece has very little if any cultural relevance
>>283584224Sorry all that caught my eye in that retarded wall of text was HOT BOOBIES
>>283616174>Hot blooded men shouldn't find babes attractive!You sound like a fag who wants to read Gay Piece
>>283616345You sound like an honest to god repressed homosexual that's overcompensating with your "lol boobs and girls are so hot!" defense for this slop writing. Stop it, get some help and some standards, homo.
>>283616295Why has no one plap her?Pirates are the big gay.
>>283616604True, but Nami is the big gay too.
What is even the point of fruit powers when Haki trumps all? Even the Nika fruit is worth shit because of the way it passively does some haki bullshit.
>>283616707she´s a pirate after all
>>283616792Haki trumps all... except the evil demon 666 Satan that rules the world only the chosen joyboy fruit can defeat him
>>283616248Nah you're just a subhuman if you don't think rubber hose animation is the best shit.
>>283617010Wow it's almost like devil fruits have a deep connection to the shadowy devil-like thing ruling the world from the shadows or something
>>283609864lol no Oda just got lazy with his writing. Even Zoro looked like fodder in Egghead. Its nika piece now and only Luffy matters
>>283600097>The whole series is about systems of oppression and bigotryno, it isn'tthat is a libtard projection and its the reason why the community is malding over garp
>>283584479I think it would have been better if people could only have 1 type of haki. Maybe the top tier guys like Roger and whitebeard have 2. But if everyone has armament and observation, then no one has it.Also, conquerors should have been different. Like a debuff to even stronger enemies instead of only being a fodder killer (that later shit with conqueror infused attacked is just armament haki with extra steps)Maybe also add like 1 or 2 more haki types. This way you get specialized characters, similar to hunter x hunter, instead of everyone just using haki like it's nothing.
>>283584224all in all I will 100% agree that the biggest issue with Nu-Piece is that it focuses so much on hyping things up only to have shit payoff like 99% of the time
>>283615047the issue is that is done as a joke but the joke really isn't funny when Sanji has done the same shit like over a 100 times already
>>283617782idk he's right>Eggheadbeing Kuma is suffering n shiet>Wanowe iz sufferin n shiet>WCIthis one is the outlier and so far Elbaf I'll say, it was a nice take on a rescue arc >Dressrosawe iz sufferin n shiet>FMIwe iz sufferin n shiet
>>283615047It's called japanese humor. Stop being racist.
>>283618260yeah but the story isnt about creating some leftist utopia which is what gets the libtards panties in a bunch >luffy "liberates" countries by restoring their "rightful monarchs>the navy are mostly the good guys>pirates are mostly the bad guys >garp isnt a fascist
>>283618311I don't think thats what that anon was saying but I have seen people say this about One Piece nevertheless
>>283618339>I don't think thats what that anon was sayingi'll give you a hintwhen someone says something like "systems of oppression", that means they have been influenced by critical theory
>>283584224bye
Why was that panel of garp punching rocks nose necessary? Does oda really want to humiliate rocks that much?
>>283618402idk probably a callback to a previous panel showing how luffy and garp are actually more similar than most people thi-nah you're right its probably nothing
>>283596364>he
>>283618370It sounds more like you're just a fragile retarded nigger anon.
>>283618822im not one of the anons crying over goyrp but but i hope you enjoyed saying the no no word on the internet
How would Sandro write this arc?
am I the only one who's glad this shit is over? I don't give two shits about god valley. Literally the only important thing's we learned that we didn't already know are that teach is related to davy jones (which was expected) and that moria was intentionally gathering kaido's former family to kill him (which we only learned because of SBS)
>>283619370*found family I should specify
Why do you guys even bother using English in this thread? Just drop the charade and speak spanish
>>283584224One Piece has been trash for a decade at this point
>>283584537On that note: The term Haki was first used in Jaya by Blackbeard.
>>283619394brazil speaks portuguese anon
>>283588517That's also just your opinion, and honestly to me your opinion is retarded.
>>283589470More like googoo gaga babs
Bros...
>>283617010except that giga demon has haki that trumps all.
>>283584224I'm fatigued with these types of facial expressionsBlud thinks he's at the dentist
it's too bad big content creators learn to ignore the desires of their fans
>>283620172Why do I suddenly smell tacos?
>>283620172That page on the right not looking like chicken scratch makes me sad. How can a mangaka let themselves degenerate so much?
>>283600916Agreed. His son is cooler
>>283621847I lost interest in blackbeard the past few months, I liked his character more when he was a nobody
>>283584224>>Everyones too retarded to figure out that the monster they fought before did something for rocks to turn on them but a fodder soldier figured it out for dorry and brogyRocks' crew hated him outside Whitebeard, and even then he's just chill like that.
>>283622363One Piece's power creep has gotten bad enough that nobodies can't exist reasonably.
Uhhh so was Whitebeard stronger than Rocks?
>>283619394¡Me no gusta uno pieco!
>The public still remembers Roger, WB and Rocks >Meanwhile the most attractive woman on the planet of that era is a forgotten washed up hag >The woman that was desired by Celestial Dragons, no lessWhat did Oda mean by this?
Post it.
>>283613815i haven't been enjoying it since the timeskip but i kept pushing myself but gear 5 and how much of a joke the WG turned out to be and the fact that the non character bland shit imu and the joke WG are the final villains and no chance for blackbeard just broke me and i couldn't take it anymore, there's simply nothing for me in it anymore, it feels like it's no longer a story with characters and it's just lore lore lore lore, the strawhats haven't been characters since the timeskip
>>283623001She's a troon
No Roger Pirate has killed a Holy Knight in God Valley.Domi Reversi's people has weaker regen than HK and Gorosei.
Zoro bros...
>>283584347>made dragon look like a do nothing bitchdragon has been a do nothing bitch for like 20 years nowthe singular thing he did was help luffy escape smoker one time
>>283622863Yes
>>283584479Haki gave One Piece its greatest moment (Ace getting punched). Other than that, yeah, shit sucks.
>>283624549Haki is not related to that scene. Akainu is magma. Magma > fire
>>283624793If only we could've kept it that way. But I suppose having a weakness on hand for every fruit, or some internal power ranking among fruits of the same kind, might not have been feasible in the long run.
>>283622363Yes because a D. and the only charcter to ever eat 2 DFs is a nobody
>>283624793Haki made Ace solid.
>>283624793>>283625251it doesn't really matter since Ace must have chosen to stay solid, otherwise he couldn't have protected Luffy from getting fisted by Akainu
>>283606338>oda has been writing this manga since 1997. That's nearly 30 yearsI wonder if there is anyone who legitimately thinks today that there's any justification for this
>>283623001She was only desirable to them while she had value. Once she shacked up with Rayleigh, that value was gone.
>>283584224Reading One Piece is no longer a cinematic experience. The storytelling has gone down to the toilet. Its just random hype moments, reveals and clashes. There is no depth to the characters or moral to the story. It was over the moment characters like Yamato and Kiku were introduced, instead of humanizing the LGBTQ community, they served as badly written slop characters. The worst part is that we are so addicted, so deprived of original content that we can't stop reading this garbage. I need to know how it ends. To answer your post, Oda never thought of Imu when he was writing Garp. All this bullshit, these retcons, this rushing... it all happened in Wano. Wano ruined everything basically.
>>283584224my fuarking heros…
>>283624939das right, the D thing used to be just an accessory and didn't necessarily mean they had plotblood, there's only so many letters a regular middle name can start with
>>283620727Are you calling Oda a content creator?
>>283626571Delusion the main character had a D. the pirate king had a D. it was obvious the D. was heavily connected to Void Century
>>283627692>the pirate king had a D.That's a later reveal, though. Like anon was saying, you couldn't say it signified that much in the beginning. But as more people outside of Luffy's family who had it started appearing, you could tell something's up.
>>283620172I said this before and someone made a meme out of itNeat
Oda ate my dog.
Bersek Garp vs Akainu. Who win?
>>283623121>and no chance for blackbeardWait what?
>>283627780It was revealed before Blackbeard was introduced though. Hell Gold Roger being a D. was revealed in the same arc Blackbeard officially goy name dropped.
>>283629163You're right, I completely forgot it was revealed this early on. Fair enough.For some reason, I remember this as if it was much more recent (relatively speaking).
>>283584224RIP, Davy D Xebec, the best character in post timeskip OP. He deserved better than>le evil mindcontrol
>>283590622Kill yourself nigga
>>283628647Akainu was weakened and garp was fresh so 100% garp but even fresh kuzan needed help>>283626186Nigga the problems started glaringly with whole cake or even post time skip not wano
>>283590038You are right. I can't.
>>283630056Domi Reversi is a realy lazy ability Oda cooked up. And I'm just waiting for it to inexplicably not work on, or for the Strawhats to find a way to negate it despite the absolute top tiers of the world not being able to do the same. >>283590038For the whole crew yes. The overall story peaked with Marineford.
>>283588171You mean Sanji (Oda’s real self insert) and Luffy. Zoro is more of Toei’s baby, whils Oda threw his entire lineage into a random SBS scribble and hasn’t done anything with his character since Punk Hazard.
>>283629163BB was nobody on whitebeards ship for many years
>>283631925I’m surprised Sanji even got an arc to begin with, considering how everyone else has been treated post-ts. >Zoro has been a soulless hypebot>Usopp even more irrelevant than he thought he was in Water 7>Nami is now just a mom character who is hard carried by the powers of a stronger mom character>Chopper more sanitized than modern Pokemon>Robin just sleeps through arcs and stands around>Franky’s dad also SBS’d like Zoro’s family, and they didn’t even interact in Wano>Jinbe literally already forgotten At least Brook is finally getting something, damn. Oda really is Toriyama’s successor with how shafted his Z-fighters have been.
Blackbeard had more aura before this flashback, I used to more interest in his character before these past few months of chapters
>>283609482Not fighting Kaido solo?
>>283599974>sneaks into MGwhy couldnt dragon or kuma do that again? They could have snuck in and stole ginney. The revos even snuck in to free kuma.
>>283632054If they would only still do comfy filler scenes they could fix some of this issue
taking a break until this flashback ends, did Dragon even iteract with Garp?
>>283632562i think dragon saw him and was like "oh shit dads over there" but thats about it
>>283587693You're conflating two things.- The dragon fruit is a Fish zoan fruit, referencing the fish dragon origins of eastern dragons.- To reach Wano you need to climb a giant waterfall.Symbolically, entering Wano is the transformation from fish to dragon. But Kaido did not need to climb Wano's waterfall to literally change his devil fruit power from a fish transformation to a dragon transformation, it was always a dragon.
>>283615172>>283607020
>Bro im Domi Reversing bro lmao >Theres no counter for my DOMI REVERSI get fucked faggotThe top 1 in the verse just gets DOMI REVERSED. Great writing. Should have kept Imu as a gooning hikimori.
>>283633129The cure for domi reversi is to be surrounded by a greater number of natives who aren't domi reversi'd. Once Eris and Teach were off the island, there was no way to save Rocks.
>>283619725>>283590458>>283589524>>283599276Damn, these cannot be real people. I mean, I can see butthurt One piece fans, but this is taking it to a new level. Must be trolls engaging in rage baiting. Who would say "yeah, fuck the plot, it was your head canon and its okay that Oda decides to waste time by dropping little nuggets of "foreshadowing" and spending years mentioning it in multiple chapters, its your fault for getting excited about it and then being disappointed that the execution of it is boring.
>>283584224imagine reading this ugly piece of shit at all
>>283584224you said you'd leave at the fishman island saganobody thinks you're done.
