How did Fujimoto get so lucky with this series? Its literally a worldwide success
Luck wasn't a factor. It was skill
>>283650041>skill>fujimotoits literally just gooner bait
>>283650041Skill, maybe But he absolutely was lucky
>>283650012>wsj>part 1 is good>hot girls
>>283650057>wsj?
>>283650041>skillFujimoto is a hack>Firepunchlol so random garbage>CS 1fast and fun>CS 2 lol so random garbage
It makes me seethe endlessly that fujimoto is so successful. I wish I could draw
>>283650188Weekly shonen jump, the most popular manga magazine
>>283650012>worldwide successThe latest series that comes close to this is SnK, not csm
>>283650012The success up until around 2021 was entirely due to Fujimoto’s own talent.The downfall that began in 2022 was unfortunate, caused largely by MAPPA’s mishandling, but the fact that the Asa arc turned into a mess afterward is entirely Fujimoto’s own fault.As for the franchise’s revival with the success of the Reze arc movie, that was the result of a perfect storm of good luck. Kimetsu had just achieved an unprecedented global hit, fueling worldwide hype for anime films, and the Reze trailer was shown to tens of millions of Kimetsu viewers, a marketing boost that couldn’t have been better timed. On top of that, Sony securing nearly the same number of theaters for CSM as Kimetsu worked strongly in its favor.That said, the movie itself also received extremely high praise, which should rightfully be credited to the franchise’s own power.All things considered, I’d say CSM’s success was about 50:50 between luck and skill, with talent, good fortune, and bad breaks all playing roughly equal roles.
>>283650012lmao, even demon slayer has better storytelling than csm
>>283650576Im not sure its SnK or KnY.KnY made over $400 million outside Japan, but if the SnK final chapter had been released as a film, I honestly can’t imagine how much it would’ve made overseas.Part of me feels like it could’ve even surpassed Infinity Castle, but at the same time, maybe it wouldn’t have been that huge after all.
>>283650012The Jump in writing quality between Fire Punch and CSM is honesty insane
>>283650576JJK is fucking huge, American sports teams posted have posted poster art of their teams drawn in JJK artstyle. Also at the Olympics, athletes doing DE hand signs are about as common as athletes doing One Piece poses
>>283650674The Rumbling arc would have a hard time topping Infinity Castle.Infinity Castle is absolute peak of KnY, while the Rumbling arc is honestly pretty divisive even within the SnK fandom, so it’s not a fair comparison.If the Shiganshina arc had been made into a movie instead, though, it definitely had the potential to surpass Infinity Castle.
>>283650752Mainly because fire punch is just random shit
>my normalfag shonen spic slop is better than your normalfag shonen spic slopwho cares
>>283650880>spic slopnigger what are you talking about
>>283650939The large majority of shonen fans are non white, typically originating from south america aka spics lol.
>>283650752Yeah, fire punch was so good and csm just feel like random bullshit for teenagers
>>283650012tits
>>283650587I agree I would argue firing Nakayama was the best case scenarioPart 2 of Chainsaw Man being animated is years away and atleast the anime can fix the really hard to look at fights and artI believe Black Chainsaw Man needs to have the same level of animation of the Reze movie just for the best fight in the series but Season 2 is atleast 2 years away unless they have it being worked on now because the Reze movie has been finished for months nowI think that is what they are announcing in December the second courDo we think they will do one full season cause there is only 35 chapters left after RezeI do want movie quality for Black Chainsaw ManIf we get this atleast a majority of the Chainsaw Man anime will be seen as good in the future
>>283650012>worldwide success31m copies in circulation from 22 volumes is not that great, definitely not global hit level Even medium level hits like Apothecary Diaries, Frieren and Spy Family all have higher circulations (with significantly lower volume counts) and critically acclaimed multi season anime series. CSM just isn't on the same level
>>283651061I dunno how you feel about this anon but i genuinely hope they stop after part 1, I think adapting part 2 will tank public opinion.
>>283650952I feel like CSM has a higher level of support from white audiences compared to other series such as KnY or JJK.
I remember when /a/ loved CSM when it wasn't popular. What a bunch of kids.
>>283650012He understands that most zoomers and most of gen alpha are cumskulls and writes with that in mind
>>283651061>Do we think they will do one full season cause there is only 35 chapters left after Rezeif season 1 is anything to go by, they are more than capable of making up random extremely lengthy scenes in which nothing happens to pad runtime.
>>283650012It's not a worldwide success by any means.
>>283650587CSM didn't benefit at all from DS' success. The movie had a sharp decline of -66% during the second weekend, meaning it was entirely fan-driven just like DS was (it made bigger gains by having a bigger fanbase and being more kid friendly than CSM but also had a sharper decline) and the mainstream audiences never showed up just like every anime movie.Look up yourself and see how CSM is performing. It only beat that shitty Bruce Springsteen movie and got beat by everyone else since then. It still gets nearly all of its money from Asia with Japan making up most of its revenue.
Good character design, good art, fun setting, loud bombastic fight scenes for the basic shonen audience, in that order.
Well, if the definition of a “worldwide success” is something on the level of DB, OP, SnK, or KnY, then CSM clearly doesn’t qualify.Even JJK still feels just a bit short of joining that club.(it’s obvious that with Season 3 and the Shinjuku arc movie, it’s only a matter of time before it gets there though.)
>>283651344>>283650012BTFO CHAINSAW FLOP LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>283651344>>283651413To be fair, there’s no series that can beat Demon Slayer in WW box office revenue.Even a canon One Piece film couldn’t pull that off.I know youare baiting though.
>>283651482Rather than that, there simply aren’t any manga arcs left in any series that could be adapted into an anime film and surpass Infinity Castle.Maybe Gojo vs Sukuna has a small chance, but that’s about it.If the next CSM arc gets a movie adaptation, the Darkness Devil’s appearance would definitely generate buzz, but it would be hard to win over the general audience.
>>283651656I wouldn't rule that out. A lot of people said the same with Spirited Away that it would never be surpassed. I think One Piece could very well break records if Toei/Wit suddenly decided to cover One Piece's final stretch as a film series. If a non-canon One Piece movie could make nearly 300 million, then I can only wonder how a canon One Piece movie would do.
>>283650012It's Makima. There was a niche demand for a popular femdom-adjecent character.
>>283651656An One Piece finale trilogy of movies is the only possible contender.
>>283651656Even if KGB or Ichi got adaptations from studios like MAPPA, BONES, or Ufotable, I just don’t see them becoming the next worldwide big series.Honestly, it feels like KNY, JJK, and CSM will end up being Jump’s last stars.
>>283650012>successIt was slop of the month for the majority of part 1 then became completely irrelevant once everyone realized fujimoto is a one trick pony with part 2.
>>283650012it was an obscure, wacky, junji ito reference manga.Then from manga Reze arc it picked up popularity, and international arc cemented its status.
>>283653261Keep telling yourself that lil nigga
Part 1 is genuinely super well executed, Part 2 is largely shit but normies picked up on it and like to pretend it has depth.
Part 3 will break the internet.
>>283652333It’s kinda disingenuous to believe this when almost every new title is terrible in comparison
>>283651061There is 45 chapters to go actually and I'm hoping for at least one more movie for part 1. As for part 2, it will get adapted simply because JJK most likely will be finished by the time CSM's part 1 is fully realized.I haven't re-read part 2 once but i've heard it's actually good for binge reading since part 2's problem is its pacing
>>283650789SnK would be an R-rated movie though. It just isn't for a general audience like DS
>>283650041retard
>>283650012fuji worked his ass off, kid. he made his own luck.>Shihei Lin: Mmm. When you were writing the Reze Arc, was there anything particularly memorable? I know it was probably an incredibly busy period for you. >Tatsuki Fujimoto: Memorable... I wonder if there was anything? I don't really remember. >Shihei Lin: I remember during our weekly meetings, you'd say, "I'm fine except for not sleeping." >Tatsuki Fujimoto: I really couldn't sleep. It wasn't just insomnia, but just too much to do. >Shihei Lin: Physically, yeah. >Tatsuki Fujimoto: Not being able to sleep... that was tough.
>>283651814>femdom-adjecent characterAs a Makimafag, while I've got anything but a problem with the femdom aspect to her, I never got the people that were that much into her just because of it. I mean, you can immediately tell she isn't sexually into it so you're just getting aroused by having a woman who looks down on you and doesn't care about you treat you like a dog/tool.Makima is still the best character in the series and the only one that comes close is Power.
>>283662387femdom aspect of her is overemphasized by the fans for the memesAlso as fucked up as it is, like 50% of the CSM fanbase are retarded teenagers
>>283664168>as fucked up as it is, like 50% of the CSM fanbase are retarded teenagersWhy is that fucked up? Kids are literally the target audience for Shonen Jump.
>>283650012Maybe, and I say MAYBE, because it's actually good and people here is seething over it for no reason at all?
>>283650012Tits and ass
>>283664287Does csm feel like a story for kids?>shonen jumpFujimoto must have some thick plot armor to be allowed near that thingBut in all seriousness. It was a bit sad to see CSM fanbase with my own eyes at the theater. Like half of it was 15yo kids. I have hard time believing that these people know what they are reading/watching. Most of them when they had their post-movie talk, only discussed the actionMade me second guess every time i see CSM related posts if they are written by someone older who has been through shit and 'gets' it or if it's yet another retarded kid
>>283664767CSM has a lot of basic elements, but also a ton of deeper themes and philosophical ideas that might not be visible for some. It's for both. Would love to see that approach in other media more often.
>>283650012He originally focused on comedy and absurdism whilst sprinkling some serious shit here and there. It was fresh and the characters were fun. He probably didn't expect it to blow up in popularity like it it did, and tried to make it more 'serious', which ironically completely ruined it, especially since Fujimoto's only knows one way to add tension, which is kill characters.After part 2, it became typical seinen slop.
>>28366476799% of CSM's fanbase doesn't even understand Denji's basic motivation which is established like, 5 chapters into the manga.They literally think 'haha denji is a gooner lol so quirky'Not like it even matters anymore since part 2 is a mess and Denji barely even matters, he's just there.
>>283664767>Like half of it was 15yo kidsHow did they get in in the first place?
>>283664767When I was in theaters it was pretty much all college kids
>>283660950Honestly, KnY isn’t that different from SNK in terms of how gory it is.The fact that it became a hit as a kids’ franchise and that little children actually love it is pure madness.
>>283652333I can say with confidence that these three will be the last Big 3.The situation today is completely different from the mid-2010s, when Naruto and Bleach ended and the next generation started.Unlike back then, the rise of manga apps has turned the industry into an era of fierce competition, and Jump can no longer maintain its dominance.
Really overrated
>>283651150that's prolly because CSM has a little more going on under the hood than those two. non-whites are just into anime for violence and "aura"/hypethe fights in Chenso are by far the least interesting part of the series.. but I'm gonna be honest, the Reze movie sure embellished those sequences
>>283671223the people who made it are non white dumb nigger
>>283658478>Part 1 is genuinely super well executedIt's paced a bit too fast, especially after Aki's death but at least it doesn't slog like shart 2. Also, Denji's birthday party should have been set up before.
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