Chapter 1long leg, long neck mystery woman doing voodoo deeds
>>283908265Body too distracting
>>283908328we love our spindly broads here
>>283908401>tall sex woman is here
>>283908568>don't argue! Pull it out! Your dick!
Can you even dump xxxholic without TRC alongside?Like, it'll get to a point it'll barely make sense.
OP, are you planning to story time Tsubassa Reservoir Chronicles later on? After a certain point, XXX Holic is going to become incomprehensible due to a bunch of stuff from that manga affecting it.
>>283908748I don't think that's possible, but it depends on OP.
>>283908775And it has to be done in serialization order too, because xxxholic was super irregular back the to coincide with its developments.
Really takes me back to when I was 11 and reading this manga and my mom saw the name on the cover and asked me what it was about because she was very concerned it might be inappropriate for an 11yo
>>283908846I learned about XXXholic from reading TRC as a kid and I wondered why what I thought was a manga about making beer was relevant to a story about people traveling dimensions to save a princess's life.
>>283908846wouldn't you know it, thats exactly how i found it. but a year or so ago.>>283908775>>283908748a good question, im doing something different in not having fully read this before and posting it while i read it. if i get too confused ill look up the other one and read so things make sense.
>>283908617How does she maintain the hair?
>>283908846>sexholic
this is the one i wanted to read here with my nibb/a/s.
>>283908983i was expecting something like "welcome to the nhk" or maybe punpun, and to my surprise it was japense mythos anthology. the anime, at least.
>>283909129>U>>283909149>>283909163>>283909180
>>283909221the no shoes on an airplane girl? the one that tears leaves off bushes? the sandcastle kicker over
Is this like mononoke?
end of chapterfirst impressions?
>>283909332Not really. XXXholic starts out as supernatural happenings in the town where the shop is located with a healthy dose of 'be careful what you wish for' and evolves into something incomprehensible due to crossover with a different series .
>>283908261we need someone to post tsubasa at the same time
>>283909351Yuko is hot as I remember. Watanuki is funnier and more likable than I remember.
>>283909504when the time comes, its up to YOU, anon, to give everyone the context theyre missing
>>283909351Thanks opsama
>>283908846to me it was the opposite, the title made me think I would see a hot black haired hag with a healthy dose of fan service(i was in my black straight hair phase along with another anime about an urban legend girl that grants dead to the caller's bullies/enemies/etc but she will take the caller to hell at the end of the ep. it had a subplot about an investigator investigating the murders)
>>283909351You're supposed to read xxxHolic alongside Tsubasa for the full experience.I particularly prefer the TV anime since it cuts the Tsubasa bits / characters and just keeps everything vague.
Holic was really enjoyable before it got completely consumed by TRC's dumb bullshit.
>>283908401Yuuko is so unbelievably sex
>>283909504>>283909721So, if someone else were to post TRC at the same time, do you think posting 3 chapters each day would work out well for crossover purposes? Seeing as it has roughly twice as many chapters
>>283909351I rike
>>283908655>>283908675>>283909064(((Yuuko)))>>283908846I first found out about this series because the anime was airing on TV. The ads for it made it look like some sort of mystic / occult story that feels mysterious all the way to the end and the anime didn't disappoint. I remember it played this specific BGM, which perfectly encapsulates this feel the anime has:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnVBVwnqyNI
Is it a coincidence that they uploaded this today?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NDom2d_Bnss
>>283909976Not necessarily, since the crossover points might not match. The last crossover point, around when Tsubasa ends, happens a couple volumes before xxxHolic ends as well.When I read them, I would alternate between them every volume or every time I got to a crossover volume until I got to that same point in the other series. (I don't remember if all crossovers make that clear, though.)
>>283910053they're stealing my dreams again
>>283909976>3I meant 2
Why do they refuse to give people what they want?
Bump.
>>283908261holy shit, I was jut listening to Kagerou
>>283909351Thank you for posting. I have no idea what to expect.
>>283909351Yuuko sexooooo
Do I need to read tsubasa to understand this later?
>>283909129kek
>>283909351This is my first time reading it. I like the art and the occultist designs. Watanuki is not annoying.
>>283909108>>283909129Straight black-haired tall woman... sexo......
>>283908261>>283908401>>283909351God I've probably lost so many gallons to Yuuko during my formative years in high school. I'd kill to be in Watanuki's position.
>>283915089I bet she smells vile
>>283915089I can only IMAGINE
>>283908714Damn...
>>283909108Thighs too long to resist. She caught me.
>>283908261Ah yes, back when Holic was interesting, with many cast members and plot actually moving forward. I'll bump your thread just so some random anons might experience xxxHolic for the first time with these daily chapter threads.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6C1qhddpRAI'll hide the rest of my post behind spoilers because it's just ramblings of an old man.I don't know what's the point of Rei as a continuation to original manga.Every non-supernatural member of the original cast is dead because centuries have passed since Holic's ending, every chapter is basically a filler and nothing changes because every Doumeki descendant doesn't do shit with the egg while Watanuki still waits until Yuko comes back... all while manga suffers from hiatuses that can last for years. Unless the point of this continuation is to serve as a metaphor (Watanuki endlessly waiting for Yuuko is no different from people reading this continuation - it's an endless blueball with no guarantee that anything meaningful exists at the end of all that waiting) I have no idea what the fuck old hags from CLAMP were thinking. Even short Tsubasa continuation (that served as pointless crossover for Rei) didn't last for long, and that's a good thing. I don't expect the grimoire girl from newest CCS to stay around in Rei for long either.
>>283909351I just finished reading xxxHolic and TRC finally after numerous rewatches. Reading the two together was great.>>283914331It's not absolutely necessary, but I would definitely recommend it.
>>283909108Thighs>>283916934>Unless the pointSomething something... Endless Eight?
>>283917395They already pulled off pseudo-Endless Eight in the first three volumes of Rei where Watanuki basically revisited his past (aka original manga) in the dream world, but once he noticed the differences and got the items he needed to find his memory came back and he returned to his own world.
>>283909064>>283909108This does feel like an elaborate scam. This era's MCs really were really goody goody pushovers. Reminds me of Love Hina for some reason.
>>283908364vaguely kumeta-esque
>>283908535ojou laugh
>>283909108ch-china slit dress
Chobits storytime when?
>>283911534Another one.
>>283908261Clow Reed spawned a multiverse for that pussy btw. She was that good.
>>283908401My goddess.>t. clow reed
>>283908675Boner.
>>283908714>>283921640Gigaboner.
>>283909108>bottom panelOh Lord have mercy upon my soul.
>>283909149>>283909163>>283909180Mandatory TRC hook...
>>283909721I read Tsubasa years ago and got completely lost by my lack of xxxHolic context (so lost not even the flowchart wasn't enough to catch on all the threads). This is my chance at correcting that gap in my knowledge of the CLAMPverse.
>>283914331I would rather read this first then Tsubasa. Read the other way around and you won't get the last third of Tsubasa due to how heavily invoived xxxHolic is in the story's climax.
SOON(ish)!
>>283916934xxxHolic itself went to shit when Yuuko died. Rei is just more of that.Watanuki's human friends are still alive during Rei, though. They are literally the ones who sent him to the parallel world, no?>>283914331For some bits, yeah. Just read them both at the same time.
This brings back memories. Last time I thought much about Holic was Blood-C movie when it was new I think. I used to love CLAMPverse but fell off of it somehow. No new animes didn't help (I guess there's Rayearth remake but who knows how it'll end up)
>>283908261Oh this is a great manga, I'm glad I will get to reread it after a while.
>>283908552https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XmXqVMwRMs
>>283909351i didn't remember it was so gag heavy at firstyuko still too hot
>>283910297cos peepl r stupid
Chapter 2
end of chapterdo you love lying? dishonest answers only.
Is this related to Sakura?
>>283927164Damn, she got isekai'd.
Is there a reason why Yuko didnt tell the girl to stop lying?
>>283927164RIP. Compulsive lying is a bitch.
>>283927311No. It's totally its own thing.>t. isekai'd chick
>>283927164I was raised in the town of Zozo. Everyone from Zozo is known for their honesty.
>>283927164>do you love lying?Yes.
>>283927507That'd be meddlin'
>>283927164No
>>283926416ENTER Lady Unluck
>>283926520Watanuki is such a blatant simp, it makes he actually seem like a confident chad, specially compared to the average MC.>>283926620>>283926807Yuuko just can't stop trying to seduce everyone she meets.>>283927164In the anime she actually survives.>do you love lying?I love lying. In fact, I'm lying on my bed right now.
>>283927113>braaaaaap
>>283927011The fuck is her problem?
>>283929680A long-term woman moment.
>>283926520I like the gags. The manga flows well and is pleasing to read.
Is this the best Clamp manga?
>>283929998Most people are either on the X camp or the xxxHolic camp.X has been "on hiatus" longer than half the userbase of this website has been alive, and xxxHolic, for better or for worse, is too tied to TRC.I am a massive TRC fan, it's my favorite manga ever, and the I like the idea of two manga being so interconnected that you have to read them concurrently, but I know that this not a very popular opinion.
>>283927164thanks opsama
>>283929998CCS had an actual good ending on the contrary to most clamp's works.
>>283929680Pathological liar
>>283929998I like Rayearth and Cardcaptors better.The early parts of XXXHolic are good as those, possibly better, but it gets dragged down by its connection to TRC. TRC itself is good, possibly better than Rayearth and Cardcaptors, but falls off hard after they visit Post Apocalyptic Tokyo and a wild, convoluted ride starts.>>283930129I've given up hope on X ever being completed. It was going in several interesting directions.>>283926431Himawari always reminded me of Lenalee from D. Gray Man.
>>283929998Honestly I think most CLAMP manga are mogged by their anime adaptations, but for me it's Angelic Layer because it was a fun read and I haven't watched the anime yet.
How's the sequel? Still on hiatus?
>>283929998That'd be Clover, followed by xxxHolic and then Kobato
>>283931012Nope.
>>283926561The whole shop that fulfills your wishes thing reminds me of the Maebashi Witches.
thoughts on the Manatsu no Yoru no Yume movie? other than the Tsubasa tie in which went completely over my head because I never watched it and it was before I read the manga, I really liked it, it felt like the early holic manga before it went all schizo, with some strange request and solving the mystery behind it
>>283909351I remember this thing being popular in my early teens but I have no idea what it is about.Girl is mysterious enough, boy feels like a bit zany but his backstory seems interesting.
What is the reading order of chapters of this and TCR?
>>283923769I mean, Yuuko died near the end of original manga, but at least wrapping it up by making Watanuki the new shop owner made sense. What didn't make sense was making zero fucking progress after 100 chapters - Watanuki is still waiting, each Doumeki is still waiting by not using the egg, shop is still stuck in its own dimension, so all you get are chapters full of pointless requests, item trade and booze consumption. Yes, original manga also had them, but some of them still moved the plot forward and had some meaning behind them, but that's not the case with Rei.As for "Watanuki's human friends are still alive during Rei" - oh, you poor, naive soul, anon. The original manga ENDED with a timeskip - Watanuki paid the price to be a shop owner for 100 years and he already paid the price by the ending, it's just he chose to continue managing the shop in order to wait for Yuuko. Himawari is long gone by being dead of old age, same for original Doumeki and Kohane (they got married to each other) - they're gone and the current Doumeki (can't even be sure it's the same one during entirety of Rei because it seems like every male person in Doumeki bloodline is destined to look the same) is their descendant. Rei happens AT LEAST 100 years after original manga, but it might be several centuries since then by now.
>>283931886>The original manga ENDED with a timeskipRei is set way before the last chapter of the original manga. It's set around the time period the latter volumes until the second last chapter were set in.
>>283926520>>283926544It's neat that her negative luck aura was foreshadowed in the same chapter she was introduced in. You don't see plot planning like that in Rei.>>283927164>do you love lying?"Love" is a wrong word here - I never lie to people with malicious intents, I only rely to it in order to make people worry less about me if they notice that I'm not doing well or not in a good mood.>>283927507She grants wishes and asks for a matching price, she's not a good samaritan. She's no different from doctors who are willing to help drug addicts if they come to hospital but also not willing to go out of their way spending their personal time by pulling those people out of drug addiction.If the girl's wish was "I want to stop lying" and not "I want to fix my pinkie finger that can't move" she'd still be alive, but Yuuko can't do anything about it - it's "The Inevitable", after all.
>>283908465Knowing CLAMP, Kekkais are the same as in X.
>>283918017>This era's MCs really were really goody goody pushoversBlame Shinji. People just thought he was popular when part of the point of the story was that he was a loser who needed to grow out of it. Anyways, of course it's a scam Yuko knew this NEEDED to happen so she kinda forced it.
>>283929998Pretty sure CCS is going to be the most common answer>not fucked by hiatuses>anime adaptations work fine by having minimum connection to other CLAMP series>CLAMP hags actually finish it and its continuation within reasonable amount of timeI like original Holic but I honestly think its anime adaptations work better because they drop Tsubasa stuff (although OVAs cover that content instead) - Tsubasa's plot is miles more complex and it relies on connection with other CLAMP series way more than Holic.>>283931012It came out of hiatus a year after CCS: CC was finished.>>283931258It was fine, it fit Holic's aesthetics with weird shit going on but it wasn't supernatural Japanese folklore stuff (which made it stick out of usual Holic shenanigans)
>>283909224/u/
>>283908261anyone care to explain the relation of xxxholic and that tsubasa series? not sure if it is the namei never got into the clamp hole but xxxholic defined my taste in anime back them
>>283933324TRC is basically CLAMP Kingdom Hearts. Syaoran and Sakura go to a bunch of CLAMP worlds to find macguffins. It goes crazy later on. Yuko and the shop are their mission control, and the larger plots of both end up intertwining at the end.
>>283933324you really gotta read all previous clamp manga if you want to get the most out of tsubasa
>>283926807maybe this manga helps me to get healedi'm 26 and i'm afraid the bad habits are overwhelming me, life has been heavy lately
>>283933180XXXholic was at its best when it didn't get to intertwined with TRC's plot.I never watched the XXXholic anime despite reading the manga, I'll probably check it out.
>>283933324Everyone wants Yuuko to live, just for different reasons.Clow Reed was her co-worker and he unintentionally prolonged her lifespan by wishing her to live more.Fei Wang Reed wanted to surpass Clow as the greatest magician by properly "reviving" Yuuko with Sakura feathers.Watanuki just wants to see Yuuko again so he waits for her return (either natural resurrection or some magical bullshit, like what happened to Clow).Also Watanuki is yet another Syaoran clone but it doesn't affect Holic's story that much.
>>283932289Right, I actually forgot about that page. But that doesn't confirm the following Rei chapters don't take place centuries later, and I blame poor continuity after Yuuko's death - first a volume or two take place a few years later where Doumeki is studying in university, Himawari is studying elsewhere, Kohane is going to high school and Watanuki is just getting used to his new role. Then a volume later Doumeki is teaching in his university and Kohane is attending to the same university while Watanuki is basically getting good at his work in shop. Then a volume later Kohane's already all grown-up and engaged to Doumeki, Himawari is somehow married to literally who and Watanuki is basically a very strong magician now. And then two chapters later it's a 100+ years timeskip and Watanuki's still waiting for Yuuko while Doumeki's grandson is still carrying the egg.Even if we assume that Rei takes place before 100+ year timeskip it doesn't explain where the hell did Doumeki's arrow ring go or why the hell Kohane no longer visits the shop, and the point of Rei as continuation makes even less sense in this case because we already know nothing changes in 100+ years from now. So I'd rather assume that Volume 4-5 of Rei take place after the timeskip to MAYBE make the experience not miserable and give the readers some hope for decent ending (and not waste time on filler that happens before timeskip).
I remember reading some of CLAMP shorter series like the one about the phantom thief with 2 moms and the 2 superheroes guys protecting a school
>xxxholic dumppeak.yuko is one of my favorite women in fiction. it's been 10 years and still just as good.
>>283936460>HimawariIt was revealed that she really liked Watanuki in the end, but he couldn't/didn't want to leave the shop anymore, right?
>>283908519cute kiss
>>283936460It's just a fanservice manga. I don't think it's ever going beyond their 20s because it wouldn't be able to capitalize on Watanuki x Doumeki yaoibait.
>>283937247There were several reasons:Reason #1: Himawari's anti-luck affected everyone and everything except her parents, and that included Yuuko's shop (its existence is already a very complex thing that tied to Yuuko's lifespan being in limbo, and it was always threatened from outside by stray evil spirits breaking the barrier what feels like every goddamn week), which is why Watanuki kept looking for magic and other ways to keep her presence in the shop more stable. Yuuko allowed her to visit the shop only once a year to prevent the shop from being fucked, and later on Watanuki and Himawari decided to make that yearly visit on Watanuki's birthday. I also remember that dream travelling doesn't work with Himawari, so they can't meet that way either.Reason #2: once Yuuko died, shop was about to collapse, but she kept it alive for the time being. Watanuki basically paid a price to permanently keep it alive by sticking around for 100 years as its owner. By the time the price was paid Himawari, Doumeki and Kohane are long gone while Watanuki is now free to leave the shop. Point is, there's no real reason for him to leave the shop (no idea if his lifespan will start ticking again once he leaves it or it stays frozen only while he's inside the shop), so he just stays in the shop to do shop duties and keeps waiting for Yuuko because he has nothing better to do at this point.With Reason #1 and Reason #2 you get a case where Watanuki can't leave the shop, Himawari can't enter the shop, they can't meet each other through dreams and the best they have is talking through phone and meeting on Watanuki's birthday. Which makes it so baffling that after another timeskip there was some random nameless dude with more immunity to her anti-luck aura than Doumeki and Tanpopo that he was able to marry her and live together with her with no issues.And yeah, she clearly loved Watanuki after he confessed to her after the fall.
>>283927143>>283927164wait she died? i swear she lived
>>283929158dont worry, she'll get a chick
>>283908261Not sure if its a testament on how simple(at times) yet well drawn the series is but IG did such an amazing job with the adaptation manI remember watching this shit on Funimation along with TRC, School Rumble, etc s/o Verizon Fios
>>283937934Like >>283929500 have said, you were probably watching the animeActually, a bunch of stuff differs between anime and manga versions of Holic, and I'm not talking about Tsubasa parts - I totally remember Kohane arc ending in entirely different ways in magna and anime.
>>283927311In terms of background lore, heavily. In terms of onscreen characters, lightly.
Oh cool, Rou OVA was actually posted on Youtube a week agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH2xb2zr26c
There's no Mokona until chapter 7-ish I think. You gotta frontload your mascot more.
>>283926398slutty chinese boy
>>283926458>he doesn't know
>>283926708Of course, it was the fault of a m*n
>>283929680Just a regular mythomaniac.
>>283931618It's convoluted. If you google it, a redditor posted a reading order that seems legit: https://www.reddit.com/r/CLAMP/comments/nobpov/tsubasa_and_xxxholic_chapterbychapter_reading/I actually plan on posting the corresponding chapters when we reach the crossover points, starting when these threads reach the end of the first holic volume.
>>283940743I just went with whole volumes in release order when I was reading both, going chapter by chapter is too much
>>283940743>reading orderyou don't actually need any of these because you still won't understand nothing by the end of TRC.
>>283908261Huh, a daily?Wasn't the manga revived in April or so? Did they actually finish it, or what?
>>283941627>Wasn't the manga revived in April or so?Yeah, it was somewhere in spring earlier this year. Reminder that it went on hiatus from 2017 to 2025.>Did they actually finish it, or what?lol no, and I doubt they will before it goes into another hiatus while old hags focus on another manga of theirs.
>>283908261Oh that's one of those manga that my wife and her friends love, let's see if it's great.
>Tomoyo>Umi>YukoThey are the peak CLAMP long hair waifus desu
>>283942686>my wife and her friends
>>283943192whats the implication here
Soon
>>283930670>Himawari always reminded me of Lenalee from D. Gray Man.True, I watched XXXHolic because Himawari not only looks like Lenalee, but they have the same voice actress too.
Are the 2 assistants girls?
Himawari's hair always reminded me of when your ball pen doesn't work so you scribble it to make it go.
xxxHolic is my 2nd favorite CLAMP manga after CCS. Thanks for the dailies, OP.
>>283908364I remember reading this before I realize(but I had my suspicions) I was a full blown hardcore lolicon and thinking how cute the Maru and Moro were.Pity there's barely any porn of them.
>>283947606
I guess this is a perfect time to go read xxxHolic but I keep procrastinating on Tokyo Babylon.
>>283908279I love this aesthetic.
>>283908401Why do I have to live in a world where I can't fuck her?
>>283949888Watanuki...
>>283940743>I actually plan on posting the corresponding chapters when we reach the crossover points, starting when these threads reach the end of the first holic volumeNice.
>>283940743Neat
>>283908655>>283908675>>283908714Bitch is just a cold-hearted capitalist using seduction to con her marks.
>>283908756>>283908773>woman kills a rapist in self-defense>shinto soul karma crushes them forever
>>283908846It'd be better as a full ecchi series with Yuko as the lead slut. Nothing like an elegant courtesan getting ravaged.
>>283908934Man, that smug look at the bottom. Pure diamonds.
>>283909108She's gotta be no-pan under there, right?
>>283909224Lesbians are fine, too.
When the chapter?
>>283950509Is that not an elegant and honorable weight to bear, though?
>>283950509>she deserved
Chapter 3
>>283927507Here's your answer, bro >>283951977>>283951999>>283952010
So much ink in this thread.
>>283926620Clamp's authors were always pretty lesbo -- weren't they?
>>283952068Contrast is really high in these scans. Probably a stylistic choice from the scanlation team.
end of chapteri, for one, welcome a lecture in determinism from a nice spindly broad
>>283952083The old hags are into all kinds of paraphilias and forbidden relationships, but they have dialed down on child x adult relationships for obvious reasons.Remember, CLAMP is the group of mangaka who came up with a little girl x teacher relationship... who ended up engaged before she could even bleed.
>>283951963Imagine the sights to see behind that robe.
>>283952253I'm absolutely certain the deepest jungle in fiction awaits whoever dares to venture into Yuko's unknown...
>>283952126>CHARWhats with the different font? Is that from the raw?
>>283952253tits, breasts even
>>283950509Her fault for not accepting her correction.
>>283947387YeahI'm pretty sure there's no weird gender stuff in Holic (unless my memory fails me).Mokona are Mokona, they don't have a gender
>>283952315The original just decreases the font for part of the 4th bubble, it doesn't change the font.>>283952141>scanlation teamI'm pretty sure that's the official release.
>>283952091She's giving me a smug alcoholic adult woman fetish
>>283952141It was actually a joke about all the spoiler blocks.
>>283952170thanks opsama
>>283952252Don't girls start to bleed when they're 10 or 11
>>283955496Depends on the girl. I remember classmates who only started bleeding in middle school. And I've once talked to a girl who said she started at 8 years old.
My ex-girlfriend made me read xxxHolic many years ago and remembering this manga gives me a bittersweet feeling, more bitter than sweet.I read some chapters and dropped because I didn't feel invested in the story which is not to say it's bad.I saw the ending years later and it's ironic how it parallels what happened between me and my ex.
>>283958374were her tits as big as yuko's?
>>283958374>My ex-girlfriend made me read xxxHolic many years ago and remembering this manga gives me a bittersweet feeling, more bitter than sweetKek happened the same to me, but with clear card's manga. She had a mildly annoying habit: you could never mention "it was coincidence" without her interjecting >there' s no coincidence, only hitsuzenAutistic girl. I hope she's doing fine.
>>283958639kekwhat's up with millenial girls and their love for CLAMP
Bumpbumpbumpholic
Just let the thread die if no one wants to participate, you autists.OP can just create a new one tomorrow.
>>283960300Thanks for the bump. You think you came to bitch but actually it was fate that made you post.
So, she just dies in the end?I'd feel really depressed if I was Watanuki
>>283960867She was already dead from the beginning. Yuuko right now is like a ghost that only existed because Crowd Reed wished her to live one more. In the end she was simply put to rest while Watanuki wait for her to reincarnate
>>283961525That is really depressing
>>283961727CLAMP gets off to tragedies.
>>283961727Not that anon, butYuuko's motto was "the inevitable", and that applied to her own delayed death as well. Even with delay thanks to Clow and shop existing in limbo (outside of time and space) she was eventually going to die (no matter how much Fei Wang Reed tried to properly revive her).As for Watanuki being depressed - well, CLAMP hags claim he's happy about his choice. And in case you wonder what was the choice - Yuuko intentionally kept the shop alive for a bit at the last moment of her alive. She basically gave Watanuki a choice: either accepting his initial wish (spirits no longer get attracted to him) and live a (sorta) normal live with Doumeki, Himawari and Kohane while forgetting about Yuko and her shop (like other customers of her shop forgetting about her after her death, plus the shop would eventually disappear without an owner)... or choosing a route of abandoning a normal live by taking the ownership over the shop, basically turning into another Yuuko and watching as his friends age and die while he exists in limbo taking requests and waiting for Yuuko to return in some form. And Watanuki just chose the latter option.
>>283962627*at the last moment of her lifederp, typo, proofreading is hard
in the end, who was Fei Wang? was he actually real or just another rogue fragment of Clow's power?
>>283963361I wish he was realI know that he's comically evil for being a real human but still, him being yet another Clow's wish(magic) was a complete cop out.
>>283963361He was a rogue fragment of Clow. Basically Clow was so powerful that his wish created another version of himself to furfill that wish. The worst part is that the wish itself is an impossible wish that even Clow couldn't complete but his alternative self would still keep trying because that was his entire purpose for existence.
>>283908261Can men read this girly manga?
>>283963498Do people really find CLAMP's works girly
>>283963498As a guy I read it for a bunch of hot girls and Japanese mythology.Plus I was hoping Watanuki would eventually score with at least one of the girls. He didn't score with any of four.Also the anime adaptation introduced me to Buck-Tick (RIP Sakurai).
>>283963531the only truly girly CLAMP manga would be Suki and The One I love
>>283963624That second ending of the anime was awesome. Still listen to it from time to time.
Thoughts on the new edition's covers?
>>283964286not lanky enough
>>283964286>background basically doesn't exist - old Holic art for volumes and chapters always had some complex backgrounds>character artstyle is following Rei's proportions, which actually works for few early volumes of Holic but not for later ones like >>283964300 where artstye started to stretch out characters until CLAMP tuned it down in the last few volumes of original mangaI dunno, I like that characters other than Yuuko and Watanuki end up on the cover, but other characters usually got cool spreads anyway. I don't think "simple is best" fits Holic's aesthetics.
>>283964748This looks upscaled or my eyes are fucked up
>>283965177I just googled and posted the very first Holic art I found that wasn't just Watanuki and/or Yuuko
>>283951963jesus christ, CLAMP please spare my penis
>>283916934>I'll hide the rest of my post behind spoilers because it's just ramblings of an old man.Wasn't Watanuki implied to be turning into another Wong? That's what it felt like.
Good thread>>28391693414 years later and I'm still madhttps://files.catbox.moe/2spif5.jpg
>>283941379TRC is such a mess of timetravel loops, I barely remember it, but I'm pretty sure Sayoran was his own grandfather at one point
>>283966333No, not really.Only similarities they have is that they both wanted to revive Yuuko (Fei Wang Reed - to btfo Clow and call himself the greatest magician, but also to serve his purpose as Clow's fragment who wanted to revive Yuuko; Watanuki - just to meet her again, she genuinely cared about her) and that both of them are related to Clow (Fei Wang Reed is basically yet another version of Clow and Watanuki is basically yet another Syaoran who is the son of clone Syaoran and Sakura, so he's blood-related to Clow) and thus they both ended up being great magicians).If anything, Watanuki willingly turned into another Yuuko (major difference is he's not dead and his lifespan is only frozen within the shop, not by Clow's wish). Like, his similarities to Clow and Fei Wang Reed are mostly from his appearance, but his attitude, actions and shop management clearly come from Yuuko's influence (and I have to mention this with a bit of disappointment because current Watanuki is more emotionless than prior to shop inheritance, and I loved old Watanuki more).>>283966420>14 yearsMan, and original Holic was finished in what, 8 years? And we had 60-90 page chapters from time to time back then, not 9-15 page ones we get in Rei.
>>283958704CLAMP was just there at the right time when anime and manga started gaining more popularity in the west. You had Tokyo Babylon airing in the mid 90's and X:the movie was like that hardcore part of the anime world alongside the names of Ninja Scroll and the Kenshin movie Samurai X on top of Eva. You had CCS come in right in the 2000's and CCS especially had a later morning slot on saturdays which was a boon for it because of all the late sleeping kids waking up. Then you had Tokyo Pop come along and really bring alot of the popular manga stateside, in which CCS was part of it's lineup. Then you had XXXH and TRC alongside Negima and shit was just wild seeing teens in B&N sitting there for hours reading all the volumes.>>283966719I think Watanuki embodying Yuuko's laidback appearance and mannerisms was supposed to be character developement, but like you said he's much more emotionless. He doesn't grasp the aloofness and carefree attitude that Yuuko does. Also why does Wang have a hateboner for Clow Reed again? Last time I remembered Clow Reed as some keikaku doori dimensional being that somehow gives no fucks and does.
>>283963624There is still hope for a Zashikiwarashi ending.>>283964286I don't like nuYuuko's design.>>283966420>that imagekek same though
>>283927143Ganbare Truck-kun
>>283966919Wang was created because of Clow Reed wish so he is compelled to complete that wish no matter the cost. There is also an ego component as he wants to surpass Clow by doing the thing Clow couldn't do, aka revive Yuuko.
>>283969637I see. Figures something like that would happen. Thanks anon.
Chapter 4
end of chapteruntil otherwise, i will assume that the magic tunnel is a reference to video related and not a seperate clamp work.https://youtu.be/1J_q9lZ2rQ8
>>283972865>>283972890I like this fit for Yuko, it's stylish.
>>283973013You open the door and see that, what do you do?
>>283973342I kneel
>>283961525>>283962627How does he even know if she will reincarnate? Why does he want to see her again?The more you read into it, the more tragic and depressing the whole thing seems
>>283973013oh yes the story about anon
>>283972686The things I would do to those two lolis...
>>2839743901. He doesn't 2. He loves herit's depressing but I like the ending
>>283973013thanks opsama, happy sunday
>>283974944He loves her, as in how a man loves a woman, or as in CLAMPâ„¢ abstract bullshit platonic "love"?
>>283976551yes
>>283976551Watanuki, Fei Long and Clow Reed all love Yuko the way a man loves a woman. If they didn't TRC and XXXholic would've never happened
>>283976551NTA but it's definitely the "man loves a woman".To me if it were platonically, he would've chose to go with the "can't see spirits anymore and live a normal life with feelings of a vague past left behind" kinda schtick that I know one or 2 manga have done. And if he did stay platonic and stay behind, it would've felt more like a duty than love.
>>283972720Am I supposed to know what ekikyabe is?>>283972772Gay
>>283972686I'm still not sure if the one on the right is a loli or a shota. And considering this is CLAMP, I guess it doesn't really matter.
>>283972741big hands
>>283977887Maybe there's a TL note at the end of the volume. Dumpy rescue us.
>>283972865tummy slut
>>283972951She understands. colour is important for these things
>>283973342*unzip*
>>283972951Good choice, the red one goes faster
>>283972865Stylish.
>>283973342[X] Genuflect[X] Worship ponytail
>>283977276>>283977296What is it about her that makes almost every male including powerful sorcerers to become so obsessed with her they want to bring her back from death?
>>283978371She's that good
>>283977887I think it's like pepto-bismol.
>>283978371Powerful men love mischievous women with a backbone.
>>283972741>>283972720>>283972772Gay crossover?>>283972865>tummyperoperopero>>283973013Thanks, OP.
>>283972686>It's okay when a female author does it
>>283947606Uhm.
>>283972720>>283972741>>283972772>Yet another Kakyoin and Jotaro clones
>>283979732SEXO
>>283973013Damn that felt short
>>283966919Fei Wang Reed's hateboner is probably your usual "a copy that wants to surpass the original" - reviving Yuuko was one of few things (if not the only) Clow could never accomplish, so outperforming him there (and achieveing the goal Clow wished for) was his motivation.>>283968618Yeah, she was one of four girls I implied Watanuki could end up with, but it doesn't look good so far.Yuuko? Dead, and the only thing that currently looks like her is hunting down Zashiki-warashi.Himawari? Loved Watanuki, but went NTR route off-screen with random businessman dude (like, to this day we've never seen him).Kohane? Watanuki was the most treasured person in her life, but she still went for Doumeki (maybe because she saw Watanuki as her parent and not as her spouse).Zashiki-warashi? Currently at the risk of dying right now, which is why she's being kept in birdcage while Watanuki is gathering stuff to save her (he'll probably succeed but I doubt CLAMP will develop their relationship after that).>>283974390There's no guarantee she'll reincarnate, or at least reincarnate within Watanuki's long lifespan. As for why he's waiting - he cares about her, she has changed his life, her last wish was to let Watanuki continue living without disappearing, so he promised to her that he'll see her coming back one day to enjoy the usual shop shenanigans again.>>283979239Legal Drug / Drug and Drop, another manga by CLAMPIIRC one guy has a twin sister he was close to while the other one has an older sister he's looking for. Other than that the manga is kinda gay, yeah.
>>283977970I first thought that Maru was a shota, but judging from other posts in this thread, it appears that both are girls. They're both sexy, either way, though.
>>283979732GIWTWM
>>283972865This is the ugliest outfit ever. She looks so hot normally, and they ruin her with this look now?
>>283980171What Jojo did you read?Kakyoin and Jotaro are barely friends.
>>283981273Are you gay?>>283981514The egg one, probably.
>>283981273You are so damn homosexual
>>283981514>he doesn't know about the egg
>>283974060Fujos lostThey're both straight as fuck
>>283981273I find it amusing that >>283974060 was posted earlier but your post is still the gayest thing in this thread
If I was Watanuki I'd do anything for a chance of sucking on those
>>283981651>>283982276>>283982366She's dressed like a teenage whore that sucks off her stepdad for coke money, and not even in a good way. The pigtails and belly shirt vs the tacky patched bellbottoms look is not good. Clashes horribly in terms of looking like both halves of her outfit come from decades apart. Time-period wise, and age-wise.
>>283984069>pigtailsThanks for letting me know you have eye cancer. Opinion discarded.
>>283984452>shibbolething Gomenasai anon-sama!!Her 'Hatsune Miku Twin Tails' suck ass and don't fit with the rest of her outfit. Neck yourself.
That's just ponytailwtf
>>283979732What do you even do in this situation?
>>283984069>>283984620>pigtails>twintailsIt's a long ponytail, you fool
>>283987980Suffering
>>283926937>>283926960Now that I think about it, CLAMP clearly planned Himawari to cause negative luck in some way from the start of the manga, but her "ability" was buffed later on just to add more despair into writing (because CLAMP can't help but screw their MCs).She herself invites Watanuki to cafe (later on she tries to avoid most invitations from Watanuki unless Doumeki is around to counter her negative aura), she pats him on the back (but this doesn't cause him to fall under the truck or something, unlike later on where he unintentionally used her pat to fall from the window and try to "erase" himself to save Syaoran) and she grabbed him by his arm (but that didn't permanently fuck up his arm, unlike his pinky finger later on - I guess you can say that pinky finger was fucked due to "pinky promise" superstition, but even a normal ball throw by her caused a house to burn down, so...)If Watanuki is a weird version of Syaoran in Holic's world then I can see Himawari being a weird version of Sakura in Holic's world, specifically because she's connected to "Syaoran" of her world and she has a strong luck aura (but, unlike Sakura's, her luck aura is negative, not positive).
>>283984620You're so fucking stupid.
>>283973013Thank you for posting.
>>283908349>mosqueMashaallah
>>283973013This two-parter had a very well-animated episode in the anime, the climax is one of the most memorable parts of the show.
>>283908380>>283908419why didn't they translate hitsuzen lol
>>283973013Thanks for the dump. Man I've always loved this manga. I just end up forgetting about it every time because it's never complete.
>>283991016I haven't read this official English translation, but something tells me it's because translators saw the amount of nip terminology being used later on (specifically for yokai and food/booze plus other niche stuff like mahjong) and decided not to bother with direct translation and call it as it is. But personally I'm too used to "inevitable" being used in all Holic fantranslations I've read, so it does look jarring to me.
>>283991016People used to know Japanese.
>>283984069It's okay to be gay, anon.
>>283972951Yuko is so great.
>>283909351Yuko is even hotter than I remembered
Watanuki's pretty hot
>>283919182we just need to ask about it long enough and some OP will fall for it
>>283994636Agreed. He reminds me a bit of Itoshiki Nozomu.
>>283993651The lesson of this episode aged in an interesting way.>Stop browsing the internet to stop cheatingMeanwhile nowadays it's completely impossible to separate life from the internet.Still, it made sense in the early 2000s when internet was just this weird club and not mainstream.
>>283993651why she didn't hit the liar girl's mouth?
>>283993651Anon, don't spoil the first timers!Kino scene and unfathomably based, though.
Chapter 5
Him deciding to stay at the shop is too sad and tragic.
end of chapteryou aren't spending too much time on that there computer are you?
If you stop thinking with your dick for a while, you'd get tired of being around Yuuko pretty fast.
>>283998822>you aren't spending too much time on that there computer are you?I don't want to think about it...
>>283908401I would wait until the end of the universe for her too.
>>283999742Having eternal blue balls? I pass
>>283998822thanks opsama
>>284000060>>283979732
>>283949888There are an infinite number of worlds, endless possibilities and alternatives.But this singular truth persists:you won't get to fuck her
>>283998822This chapter is outdated, having a smartphone would solve her problems.
>>284002283Or make them worse
>>283909351I now understand why XXXHolic is frequently mentioned on /a/
>>283998537such a modern woman
>>283998556imagine how that must feel hahamust be awful I'm sure
>>283998762thank you...
>>283998556
>>284002283Nowadays they'd just give the kids smartphones.
>>283909031>>283909051What song is she making a reference to here? Or is it just TL nonsense?
>>283998537Epic translation fail.>namefagsDisgusting.
>>283998537What 4chan board would yuuko browse?
>>284003022kek
>>283998584>>283998657>kids (plural)The translator wasn't having the best of days, huh?>>283998822Where do you think we are?>>284003022kek>>284004185>/a/>/m/>/x/ (for shitposting purposes only)
>>283998822Can we do double chapters per day13 pages per day feels way too short
>>284004428I vote strongly against.Mostly because the TRC dump would have to get extremely fast.
Why did 7 gate get canceled btw?
>>284005220It wasn't popular enough I assume.
>>284005220>>284005445Fair enough, I never read it.
>>284006655The art is superb. That's pretty much what I know about it.
>>283927164Eko Eko Azarak...
>>283993651Fucking beautiful
>>283998822>you aren't spending too much time on that there computer are you?
>>284005220Next you're gonna ask why X was cancelledIIRC currently CLAMP have four series on indefinite hiatus (X, Clover, Gate 7, Drug and Drop) for various reasons, and who knows if old hags will ever finish any of them.>>284004185/adv/ (to get a rare request or two)/fa/ (she'll quickly stop visiting it and probably move to /cgl/)/x/ (just for occasional shitposting because she already knows what's real and what's made-up)I don't think we have a dedicated booze and food critique board, and I'm 100% sure she'll avoid /ck/ once she looks at its threads.>>283998822Sadly, I work on PC so that's at least 8 hours 5 days a week. And I'm sure handheld consoles and smartphones also apply in this case, so that's even more time added on.
>>284008828>moot, I'm gonna help you find a wife>in exchange, I'm deleting /bfc/ (booze and food critique) out of existence
>>283908261no seggs?
>>284008961moot has a wife?
>>283980385>>283963624For me, Watanuki longing for Yuuko in eternity is already a win in of itself considering how everything else turned out. As an aside, I'm just glad Zashiki-warashi is still around.
I know whats going into my anime backlog soon
>>283993651>Smiling Friends ahh animation
>>284004158This is just wrong. How did they even get this?
>>284011285This type of gag movement is common even today.
>>284009190>>283963624>>283980385Yuuko is just a tease, completely asexual in typical CLAMP fashion. The one man she may ever have had romantic feelings for, and that's a big maybe, is Clow Reed.Watanuki was never more than a pupil and sometimes "little bro" to her. He may be romantically in love with her at the end of the story but she certainly didn't view him that way at all. He doesn't even register as a man in her mind. If he was a girl, the story would have been the same and she'd have treated him the exact same.
>>284012613I mean, when I said "score" I was considering best-case scenario with every girl, but obviously it'd never actually happen because Watanuki feels different kind of love towards each girl and each girl feels different kind of love towards Watanuki.Watanuki might've loved Yuuko as a foster parent and started develop some deeper feeling towards her near the end, but Yuuko probably saw Watanuki in the same way as Syaoran and Sakura - another kid in a very shitty situation whom she wants to help (especially since he's related to Clow). Although I do consider the possibility of her developing some deeper feelings towards Watanuki by the end of the manga when he started asking her about her own wishes and aiming to grant them as one of his goals.I don't think Watanuki ever had romantic feelings towards Kohane (he basically saw himself in her and just wanted to help both her and her mother by fixing their relationship) but boy you can bet Kohane saw Watanuki as her savior by the end of her arc and was always worried about him, especially after Yuuko was gone. Her going after Doumeki just because he "had a pretty face" and he was giving lectures in the same university as hers is a weird cope move by CLAMP but eh, at least Doumeki scored and Kohane could still care about Watanuki.I dunno Watanuki's feelings about Zashiki-warashi, he has some affection towards her but I'm not sure it's romantic love, feels more like a sister thing. Zashiki-warashi is obviously head over heels about Watanuki (and tries to help him whenever she can, like trying to retrieve his eye by herself), but CLAMP will never give them a happy ending because it's all suffering here.
>>284013279And then we have the one clear example of Watanuki loving someone as a woman, and that's Himawari - even after everyone told him "she's bad news, avoid her at all costs or at least bring along some protection" he was on cloud nine with her and always, ALWAYS, A L W A Y S wanted to spend time with her. Hell, he even wished Tanpopo into existence from the egg so he can keep her company at all times, and Tanpopo is literally Watanuki's "spirit form" (like how butterfly is Yuuko's "spirit form") - its adult version even appears at the end of original manga to symbolize Watanuki's growth (and it leaving the cage is allegory to Watanuki being able to leave the shop). And their feelings became mutual after Watanuki fell from the window and Himawari took his scars - at first she clearly just took them as apology and then tried to disappear from his life, but after he opened up to her with his feelings she clearly fell for him. But after CLAMP made sure every possible way for them to meet outside of yearly visit is locked out for bullshit reasons AND dropped her into NTR route with literally who in the last volume the message from old hags was clear - "sorry, this route is no longer available".If I can make a brief romantic love affection chart between Watanuki and the girls, it'd look something like this:Watanuki's romantic feelings:Himawari > Yuuko (late chapters) > Kohane = Zashiki-warashi >>> Yuuko (most of the manga)Girls' romantic feelings towards Watanuki:Zashiki-warashi > Himawari = Kohane > Yuuko (late chapters) >>> Yuuko (most of the manga)
>>283908261Based. Love this manga, love tall girl legs. Simple as.
I'm surprised there's no gay or lesbian couples in this series.It's always been a CLAMP thing.
>>284013918I'm 100% some fans shipped Watanuki and Doumeki together, maybe Maru and Moro as well. The former one broke thanks to Kohane and the latter one was never that popular because both girls never had much differences in personality so they're basically twins with a single mind.I guess the trade-off is that there aren't many straight couples either.
>>284013918>>284013998CLAMP can't do relationships well at all.I mean, it's women, "things they can't do well" is pretty much everything except making your dick feel good inside of them and giving birth
>>284014798Why are we even reading this manga, if CLAMP's only value is making your dick feel good inside of them and giving birth?
>>284015029Yatagarasu either wants Zashiki-warashi dead just so her corrupted result can grant a wish... but she's willing to trade her (or rather her weird human version) for a shamisen. Feels like entire Zashiki-warashi issue is the only interesting thing during entirety of Rei so far, so I can only hope CLAMP aren't gonna kill her (because I can see the drama where that pseudo-Yuuko is the one who planted the corruption spirit just to get a wish to revive, and then Watanuki has to choose between Zashiki-warashi and whoever that pseudo-Yuuko is)Also how many owners did the cage and shamisen have by now, those two items get passed around like crazy
>>283950085The kids call those "girlbosses" these days
>>283950085Yeah but she's hot
>>284015015Because he's upset about shipfaggotry and trying to cope about that feminine behavior with hypermasculinity.
>>284013318>>284013279>kohaneI'm pretty sure Doumeki says she only chose him because Watanuki would never reciprocate, with being in the store waiting for Yuuko and all.>himawariI will never forgive the Japanese.
>>284015029Noa-senpai, wtf>>283950085We call her Jewko for a reason.
bump?
>>284021341Why? Not even dumpy would be daft enough to post a chapter in a thread with only 15 replies left.
>>284021615careful now dont go giving me dumb ideas
>>284021615Wait, OP is dumpy? As in, Dorohedoro's dumpy?
>>284021615this is a dumpy OP? i fell off after ajin
>>284023006>>284022986i havent used this one in a while
>>284023087He said the thing!
>>284023006>>284023087>>284023168Dumpy posting is eternal
>>284023193Those were the days...
>>284023006>>284023087>>284023168>>284023193>>284023258
>>283909108I wait for double slits, nopan, long legs.
>>283908265One of my favorite introduction pages to any manga ever.
>>284026380I like her introduction in the anime a lot. The studio completely nailed the tone with the imagery and the OST.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJniX1KAEV4
