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>no other anime/manga reached this level of movement since
What was it about AOT that caused such a huge following, even from normies

I miss it
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>>283916590
why does it matter when SAO brvtally mogs this tryhard trash
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>>283916590
Frieren
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>>283916590
It was good. Real fucking good. Thats about it.
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>>283916632
I think SnK had more hype on this site at least
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>has topped everything
>has yet to be topped
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>>283916932
I miss it. There will never be another manga where people are analyzing every line of dialogue to figure out what it's foreshadowing.
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>waaah waaah the ending is bad
the journey to that ending was a straight constant flow of 10/10.
judging the entire thing by the last 2 chapters is a serious brainlet take
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>>283917173
Braindead shingeki fan, it was a "journey" of cheap miatery boxes. Isayama needed a conclusion to all of them and to his one dimenisonal characters but he isnt a good writer thats why the ending is bad. Also, the series is a blatant copy of muv-luv, is not like he is a genius writer; he is a genius thief
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>>283916590
It is a shounen with shock-value. Normies like it because is not very "anime". Honestly after that ending im not surprised no one talks about this piece of shit
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>>283916590

>>>/r/eddit
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Contrarians itt
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>>283916590
SnK is a series of tragedies.

What other shounen authors don't seem to understand is that the most interesting quality of entertainment is the internal and external conflict of a character.
Power-level bullshit, lore-faggotry and fancy fighting scenes are just filler for the next conflict.

The realism of the characters also helped.
Virtually almost every character had a detestable or pity-able side that made them feel alive.
Other Japanese authors don't take character flaws seriously.
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>>283917238
>Normies like it because is not very "anime"
maybe thats why it was good.
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>edgelord gore
>mystery boxes every season
>nazi/jew allegory, but vague enough so that japanese nationalists and western racists can reinterpret it to fit their ideologies, so everyone can like it
That's pretty much it. And before some retard tries to make out that it's actually "based", the editor was a literal korean and they all have massive victim complexes about how the japs civilized their feudal country.
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>>283917338
If you don't like anime feel free to go back to /co/
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>>283917238
>Normies like it because is not very "anime".
What you mean is children's entertainment.
While SnK possesses qualities of a shounen, its emphasis on the conflicts of human nature enables it as a drama.
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>>283917376
you know one medium can take aspects of another right?
thats what AOT did and is clearly better for it
also what >>283917324 said. The characters felt human, noone was evil just for evils sake
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>>283916590
racism
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>>283917435
You're not making any sense, shounen is not a genre it's a demographic. a drama can be a shounen, whether snk is a battle shounen or drama it doesn't matter it's still intended for 14 year olds like you.
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Normalfags lovr shonen because they are mentally kids
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>>283917453
>and is clearly better for it
Not really. It's edgelord trash that was the main appeal. It's already less culturally significant than death note and eva. No one cares about it now, it's fotm, it failed.
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>>283917484
This
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>>283917493
>if I throw enough buzzwords, I'll be right
>eva
nobody who isnt an anime fan knows what that is. I have normie friends who know about AOT. Fuck I know 40 year olds at the gym who know about it
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>>283917519
What words do you have a problem with? All the words there seem relevant and descriptive to the post.
>who isnt an anime fan knows what that is.
Maybe modern zoomers wouldn't know but it was pretty well known twenty years ago since it got a dub and aired on western television. People know about snk because it was fotm, in ten years no one will care.
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>>283917519
Eva is way more popular and culturally significant, is not a competition is a fact
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>>283917538
>twenty years ago
ancient history, get with the times gramps. Check the calendar, its 2025
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>>283916932
>still instantly start hearing the song in my head
Chills
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>>283917562
And in ten years from now no one will care about snk due to the atrocious ending. But death note will be remembered and still liked by fujos and other mentally ill women everywhere.
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>>283917562
I've yet to meet anyone irl who knows what EVA is.
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>>283917571
Ouma, weren't you supposed to destroy the time machine?
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>>283917576
Because you're a normalfag
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>>283917571
>talking shit about the snk ending
>forgetting there's a huge number of people shitting on the DN ending as well
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>>283917576
When i was 8 i didnt know about eva either
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>>283917588
nigga did you even follow the convo. The cultural effect of snk is so big because it appealed to more than just to established anime fans.
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>>283917602
>The cultural effect of snk is so big
Do you know what fotm means, "nigga"?
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>>283917602
Same with eva. What happens is that you started watching anime 4 years ago
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>>283917591
What's your point exactly?
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>>283917639
I started watching anime at like 4 or 5 with Captain Tsubasa.
but you do you queen
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>>283917620
If you think snk is just a simple fotm, you probably haven't been outside in 10 years
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>>283917453
>The characters felt human, noone was evil just for evils sake
It's not just evilness.

A well-written character in a drama must have universally dislikeable qualities.
The average shounen writer tends to avoid the second category for not just the protagonist, but almost every one of their characters, except for the villain, if they're supposed to be unlikeable.

In their duty to give their creations flaws, they make sure that their flaws do not make them lose appeal to general audiences.
They treat flaws more like "weaknesses", e.g. "This very powerful girl can kill you in one swoop but she is shy and socially anxious".

SnK is not immune to this, but it does a much better job than most fotm shounenslop.
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>>283917663
Yeah most people watched some dub of a popular show when they were kids
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>normies
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>>283917675
You act like the 2010s wasn't full of FOTM media like SnK and GoT, both of which started off promising and both of which blew it with a retarded ending caused by hack writers not doing their fucking jobs that cratered interest in the series and made them culturally irrelevant.
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>>283917675
Maybe you think it's got some really deep and well written plot, but that doesn't change the fact that its culturally relevance has been on a huge decline.
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>>283917686
>NO THAT DOESNT COUNT
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>>283917711
That's right it doesn't count. You seem to think that you're a long time anime fan because you happened to a watch a dub when you were a kid. Most people did that. It doesn't mean anything.
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>>283917728
>YOU STARTED WATCHING ANIME LAST YEAR
>no I didnt
>THAT DOESNT COUNT BECAUSE IT WAS A DUBBED SHOW
really grasping at straws there nigga
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>>283917728
Well by that logic there's no true long time anime fans
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>>283917702 (Me)
Also OPM and Keijo!!!!. I genuinely forgot those shows existed. Point being there were a few shows that were genuine cultural touchpoints that had some effect on the larger anime sphere like Kill La Kill due to it being executed in a clean, concise and elegant manner. And then there's shit like SnK and OPM, which could've done the same but didn't due to fuckups in the production of the show.
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>>283917737
This all caps posting is really revealing how you've lost your temper after being made fun of for being such a retard. A dub is not an anime it's basically a cartoon. You had no involvement in the western anime community until a two or three years ago, that's why you think snk is anything other than fotm that's already forgotten about.
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>>283917749
There are forty year olds on this board who've been watching subbed anime since they were teenagers. You should stop projecting your age.
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>>283917773
Your right sorry
I just disagree with you on snk
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>>283916590
the action was real good, I've yet to experience such a blood-pumping action series again
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>>283917786
Well keep that thought and then review it in ten years' time.
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>>283917762
>A dub is not an anime it's basically a cartoon
who decided that?
Back then anime wasnt widespread and if you are ESL you cant really watch subbed until you're fluent in english.
I watch Zenki and detective conan in german because I was fluent in that before I was in english. Neither are my native language.
lets move the goalpost higher then. You're not an anime fan if you dont watch it in japanese without subs
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>>283917832
>watched
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>>283917762
>its not anime, its basically a cartoon
Anime is a cartoon. It being japanese and covering adult themes doesn’t make it not a cartoon.
Youre a walking
>thing :I
>thing (japan) :O
Meme
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>>283917832
It's the meaning of the word used on this board. That's how english speakers have always used it here.
>You're not an anime fan if you dont watch it in japanese without subs
Definitely true, it's good to hold such a high standard. But anons who watch subs are much more legitimate that dubniggers.
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>>283917882
When anime is used in the english language, it refers specifically to animation produced by and for japanese people. If you don't like people here liking japan then go somewhere else.
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>>283916590
There was a mystery and the idea of being eaten alive is terrifying.

Unfortunately the answer to that mystery was hot dogshit and titans just kind of stopped being scary.
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>>283917884
The standard held by this board is different from what the general culture considers said standard
What matters is the reach
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>>283917921
Then go somewhere else.
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>>283917900
Revealing a mystery is never a good idea. But I think the way AOT handled it, is the best from what I’ve seen.
The white walkers in GOT and the outsider in dishonored come to mind when thinking about the shit ones
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>>283917930
Nigga YOU came into this thread and started stirring shit.
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>>283916632
Not even close, Frieren didn't even have half the impact Solo Leveling did, let alone Snk
>>283917173
>judging the entire thing by the last 2 chapters is a serious brainlet take
The entire manga starts to fall apart in the Marley arc (even if it's fucking amazing), and everything after is pure ass.
All the characters do is stand still worrying about Eren or running around chasing Eren, a story with no real bad guys turns into a save the world shonen bullshit, everyone has infinite fuel and blades and can solo any titan shifter, and any emotional moment missed the mark, a broken Grisha talking to Kruger made me feel 10000 more things than Armin and Connie killing their literally who comrades, Hange's death, whatever the fuck Zeke's death was, the fake-out when everyone transformed, Reiner's mom, etc.
It's not GOT level of atrocius but damm, I was saving bookmarks for every page or moment I found memorable and worth returning to, there were 30+ between chapters 100~ and 123, and only 3 from 124 to 139
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>>283917937
>the outsider in dishonored
Was there a third game or something? He was never explained in the two I played.
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>>283918050
He was explained. Turns out hes’s just a random nobody who got sacrificed by some cult
Ruined completely
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>>283917576
because you don't go outside
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>>283916590
The cool season 1 opening helped.

The memes were 11/10.
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One of these is not like the others.
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>>283918003
>Not even close, Frieren didn't even have half the impact Solo Leveling did,
This website is full of toddlers this cant be real



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