The critical and social media response to Hosoda's new film Endless Scarlet has been overwhelmingly negative. It's being savaged on X, where users are x calling it "incomprehensible" and "the worst movie of the year", with some going as far as to claim Hosoda's career is over. This comes only a few months after it was critically panned at Cannes.https://youtu.be/2AfKVDmc5io?si=HwXMxSCw2Hn82Qc_
>>283926412Go back to shitter you retarded faggot.
If you search for "果てしなきスカーレット" on X you'll find a vast array of tweets trying to think of long-winded new ways to say the movie is garbage. This one is my favoritehttps://x.com/nishiedogawa/status/1991766358292591104
Brutal.
>>283926412Not a surprise in the slightest, Belle sucked and so did Wolf Children.
It's kind of crazy how the instant he left to form his own studio the quality of his movies took a nose dive. I still really like those 3 Madhouse films he made.
WHAT DID THEY MEAN BY THIS
Originals anime films aside from Shinkai are literally over. Even Miyazaki couldn't get to 10B yen with Boy and the Heron. This is probably not even breaking 2B yen, which is crazy considering budget and expectations for Hosoda.
>>283926412No one wants to watch feminist garbage anymoreCSM movie/pro-incel = massive successHosoda/pro-feminism = disaster
>>283926412Reading the recent comments I can confirm that they are vocal and are not happy
>>283926412Biggest hack in the industry.
>>283926574>>283926587It sounds like the problem is that in most of these cases the person heading the movie is a big name that can't be told no, and while they have great skills (or did, at some point) without an editor to reign them in they make a bunch of stupid decisions that undermine the final product. Boy and the Heron was visually pretty but was a story that didn't have any kind of thematic or narrative throughline at all, it never once figured out what the fuck the movie was supposed to be about and shit would just *happen* and then not get elaborated on or connected to anything else in any way that mattered.Shinkai, at least so far, seems to be in a case where either his ego isn't big enough that he ignores his editors, OR he is the rare case where his instincts remain good and he doesn't go off the rails without someone to keep him in check. Suzume was got close to being too rambling for its own good, but it managed to bring it all together with a solid emotional catharsis at the end so it stuck the landing even if Your Name is still the better written film.
>>283926412He fell off.
>>283926734They should create a petition. I'm sure it'll get thousands of signatures
>>283926549>Another party I wasn't invited.I knew I had to grind my japanese skills. fuck feminism btw
>>283926412i just wish he would not love this cgi crap so much
>>283926549I haven't seen anything of his since Belle and that was boring as fuck to me. It seems he's just been on a constant decline then?
>>283926800MANY such cases
>>283926412Looks like feminist slop
>>283926501how fucking bad is this movie? lol
>>283926412Hard to imagine it being much worse than Belle and that one was critically acclaimed for some reason
>>283926800Yeah these days I only ever see it as a bad sign when a big director goes off to make his own studio which he's also the head of. Same thing sort of happened with Yuasa. I doubt anyone would genuinely say anything he made at Science Saru is as good as Tatami Galaxy or Kaiba or even Ping Pong.
>>283926412Sounds like the opinion of a bunch of losers just like OP
>>283926800>Shinkai, at least so far, seems to be in a case where either his ego isn't big enough that he ignores his editors, OR he is the rare case where his instincts remain good and he doesn't go off the rails without someone to keep him in check.Weathering with You had a lot of issues in terms of writing but he managed to bounce back with Suzume pretty well probably helps that the characters in that were way more likable and better realized in comparison.
His movies started sucking ass when he decided to start writing the scripts himself. His ego is too big.
>make movie forcing medieval european overused shit>it sucksDamn, how did that happen?
>>283926873This. Are people just waking up to how garbage Hosoda has always been now?
>>283926412I am very sad, i rewatched summer wars yesterday and i was hyped to see this movie. I didnt like mirai no mirai and that belle movie, it seems its over for him o7. We only have Shinkai left in the known original movie directors
>>283926985The jumping girl, summer war and wolf children are kino.Anything else is debatable.
>>283926800Shinkai just has very good instincts to know where the audiences are pointing towards. He's also a major novelist so he'll always write everything for his films. That's the biggest difference I guess.Shinkai just knows when to pivot away from a vision. He already said the next one will be a completely different vision compared to the last trilogy.
>>283926574>>283926800It's very simple: Hosoda had a dedicated screenwriter up until Wolf Children. But starting from The Boy and the Beast, for whatever reason, he wrote the movies himself, and the writing quality nosedived. I have no clue why he keeps insisting even after all the bad negative reviews.
>>283927020Ghost will cement Shingo Natsume in that upper echelon
>>283926412Who? Also it looks like 3D models with 2D textures. Don´t they know that you can turn 3D into line art now and use traditional animation techniques instead?
The only okay Hosoda movies are the ones where Satoko Okudera did the screenplay lmao
>>283927045>The jumping girlTurns to shit in the third act>summer warsIs just an average action flick thats a ripoff of Our War Game>wolf childrenTurns to shit in the third act
>>283927055>tatami>sonny boy>space dandyreddit shit
>>283926943
>>283927020Summer Wars and Wolf Children are really good. Don't think either were masterpieces or anything but they were both really well-made and a lot of fun. I didn't like Mirai or Belle either.
>>283927055This film looks so good, i hope it doesnt dissapoint
>>283926579You can see the answer here >>283926501
>>283926412Never heard of this, but it looks like your typical jap feminist slop.
i imagine it has the same problem as that one animated lord of the rings movie where its just boring
>>283926889Kaiba (and Kemonozune) fall apart in the second half. The Night Is Short is the best thing he did at Science Saru and that's better. Maybe Inu-Oh too.
>>283927045Those were all written by someone other than Hosoda
>>283927099Retard.
>>283926412What's up with this dude making consent films with Female MC's?
Mirai is the only film of Hosoda's recent output that I liked. What helped is that it didn't have much of a story and was just comprised of little vignettes, which made Hosoda's shortcomings as a writer less apparent.
>>283927224He jumped straight onto the western girlboss trend, unfortunately.
>>283926412>It's not about Isao Takahata's talent drying up or anything like thatI feel like a dummy for not knowing what xe means by this, but alright. Is Hosoda a spiritual successor to Takahata? What about Shinkai?
>>283926412What is the movie about and why feels like a sermon?
>>283926412looks like tranny slop
>>283927123Many such casesArtist + writer is superior for the same reasons
>>283927274Shinkai is Miyazaki's successor.
>>283927132>Summer Wars and Wolf Children are really goodLmao no
>>283927298But wtf does Takahata have to do with this?
>dude a lel heckin original film with a female MC?!??Are they not tired of this?
>>283927045its when he dropped his co-writer and started doing sole writer/director/auteur shit that he got exposedmany such cases
>>283927020>>283927132Summer Wars was ass regardless of it being a Temu copy of Our War Game.
Belle was enjoyable, you fags can suck it.
I watched Summer Wars when it first aired on TV and the amount of stupidity within the script gave me a brain aneurism. You tell me that sold hold every work after this is even worse after he started to write his own movies?
>>283926412>Isao Takahatawhats he got to do with this shit?
>>283927123savage
>>283927420twitter tranny brainworms i guess
>>283927335It's a sign of little talent.
>>283927325A lot of people who worked under Takahata ended up at Studio Chizu. Most aren't there anymore though, so that doesn't even make any sense.
>>283926412This is my first time hearing about it to be honest
that movie about the red wolf guy was his last good project
>>283927455....thats arguably is worst one
>>283926412What is this movie about
>>283927509Female empowerment.
>>283927520But I thought Japan was based?
>>283926412>Femoid movie got fucked.Based.
>>283927509A female version of Hamlet fails to kill Claudius and dies so she's sent into the afterlife which allows her to time travel and influence world history. She also meets a guy from modern Japan who teaches her not to give in to hatred and revenge. It's also a musical. I'm not kidding.
>>283927451>>283927430>>283927420>>283927325>>283927274it's just a shit "translation" on elon's partoriginal tweet is talking about hosoda
>>283927539Which is why the movie got fucked.
>>283927509It's not about feminism like the schizos are saying. It's a revenge = bad story with the usual moral superiority of a film director who love the smell of his own farts.
Okay but can you just give Katsuhiro Otomo the money he needs to get Orbital Era made? Thanks
>>283927554That sounds a lot more interesting than what I thought the movie looked like (generic GoT/Witcher clone).
>>283927601>It's a revenge = bad storyLeftoids love that concept.
half of this thread reads like written by ai, are you guys okay
>>283927627I wouldn't give Otomo a single yen after Steamboy.
>>283927651Please sir, just one more chance.
>>283926412This made me wonder how the LoTR anime movie was received in Japan. After all, both movies had "kinda" similar female protagonists and fantasy settings.Maybe the Japanese had more high hopes for a big name director like Hosoda, instead of a random animated spin-off movie that's part of a larger Western franchise
>>283927054The chick he co-wrote all the good movies with wrote the screenplay for kokuho this year. Dude seriously needs to beg her to come back or find someone else to write the script because it is clear he can't write a good story
>>283927641Which posts seem like AI?
>>283927640Shakespeare was a leftist desuI thought "turning the other cheek" was a Christian concept, how silly of me.
>>283927717>The chick he co-wrote all the good movies>Hosoda>good movies
>>283927716Scarlet is way worse than the LoTR one. The LoTR one wasn't good but it was watchable at least. Scarlet is literally impossible to watch.
>>283927744I'm sure the ones bitch about this guy writing a story with a female MC melodramatic bullshit story over and over over again.
>>283927779Okay feminist.
>>283927763I'll say one thing, some of his movies have these scenes with families that feel very genuine. But now I'm looking at Satoko Okudera's IMDB page and she wrote the movies that had those scenes, and now I wonder if it was all her.Like, I used to think Peter Bogdanovich was really hot shit and suddenly turned to shit, and it turns out it had been his ex-wife who made his early films good, maybe that's what's happening here too.
>>283926412This is what happens when he steers away from summer wars
>>283926943Tale as old as time
>>283927828Story by ONE
>>283927554That does sound like a bit much. I probably would preferred a more traditional fantasy story.
>>283927099>Turns to shit in the third actdamn near every single anime movie has this problem, it feels like the movie format just doesn't work with the traditional 4-part plot structure of nip storytelling
>>283927716this movie is so fucking boring, i don't think many people even cared about it when it came out
>>283927640Ironic, considering what they were all cheering for a few months back.
>>283927824That’s plagiarized from a Digimon movie
>>283927874I love this kot
>>283926931Weathering With You's biggest problem was that it was trying way too hard to cash in on the success of Your Name. Like, WWY wasn't a BAD film but it was trying way too hard to catch a specific kind of lightning in the bottle again by adhering to the formula of the previous film, but the script wasn't polished enough and it lacked a lot of the complexity and nuances that make Your Name work. Like, the entire sequence where the MC is running from the police to the shrine and all of the side characters start dropping out of the woodwork to help him one after another felt COMPLETELY unearned and took me out of the film despite this needing to be a climactic moment because there was no reason for anyone to be doing or acting like this beyond the needs of the script to have some kind of big finish. Suzume has a strong start, and a weak middle IMO, but the ending made me cry like a bitch so I can't fault how the sausage was made if it provoked that strong an emotional response. Considering how often media leaves you feeling nothing but mildly entertained, anything that can actually hit you in the feels is in accomplishment.
>>283926800>the artist is.... le badReddit-tier opinion.
>>283928004And the digimon movie was better.
>>283926412>>283926501>>283926533I only saw people saying it's bad but nobody explains whyAlso>it doesn't feel any intent to entertain the audience at allIs normie giberrish
>>283928186You're talking as if Weathering With You wasn't a massive success. It made like 15B yen in Japan alone pre-Covid crash.
>>283926412>it was a disaster>it was bad >it was boring >it was the worst movie of the year Ok but, why?I didnt saw a single coherent critic yet
>>283928004Can you really plagiarize your own work?
>>283928294Otaku probably thought the movie wasn't "anime-ish" enough (no sakuga, no silly gags etc)
>>283928292And Belle was Hosoda's most successful movie. So? They both had shitty scripts.
>>283928378How? Belle won awards and a lot of people liked it. WWY was massive success, won awards and a lot of people love it, especially in Japan.Literally not a single soul liked Scarlet unironically.
>>283928355Even arthouse or intellectual films can and should have sakuga
>>283927136Nigga you've seen jackshit. Considering Shingos first original was fucking Sonny Boy how can you expect anything more than good animation from this?
>>283926412Well, Shinkai's next movie will be announced next month at least. So there's still something to look forward to.
He should go back to making digimon anime
Oda will save anime cinema with the next One Piece film from these losers.
>Digimon movie 18/10>Our War Game7/10>One Piece movie 66/10>The Girl Who Leapt Through Time8/10>Summer Wars10/10>Wolf Children9/10>The Boy and the Beast6/10>Mirai8/10>Belle6/10
>>283928292So? A successful movie can still have a bad script. Just look at the Star Wars sequel movies.
>>283928799Oh yeah, and you are the one who gets to say which is which. Right?
>>283928254nips do that with all their movies, my feed is always full of Japanese tweets saying "I saw x, it was good/bad", "it made me cry", "it's a masterpiece" whenever a new movie comes out
>>283928254It's bad because I said so.
>>283928860> you got a license for that opinion?
>>283926412The premise and director comment already sounded an awful lot like it was going to be REVENGE BAD feelbad fare. The comments sound like it was even preachier than I feared.>>283927554>here's your animated Fate route bro. Hope you like CG>>283928294Probably spoiler etiquette.>>283928355I think you just made that shit up.
>>283926800>>283926931>>283928186I don't want to say Mokoto Shinkai is a one-trick pony of romance slop, but compared to Miyazaki or Hosoda, he seems to follow a specific story formula of "boy meets girl, emotional problems are revealed, boy and girl help each other solve said problems, boy and girl fall in love".They may not all be homeruns, but following this specific formula allows for the audience to get emotionally invested into the characters and stories, even if they're are on the weaker side of things.
>>283926412>Cheesy dramatic hollywood score>Ugly 3DCGHonestly that's enough to count me out right there.
Shinkai normies are actually think Shinkai has made anything as good as Wolf Children?
>>283929088Part of that is forced upon him, though. Suzume was never supposed to be romantic, the doorsealer guy was supposed to be a chick before the producers made him change it specifically to conform to their idea of what a Shinkai movie should be. WWY was obviously trying to do Your Name again from the start, but Suzume was trying to branch away from that and just pushed back in. I think that the upcoming scifi movie he is doing is explicit about it not being at all like the three previous movies specifically so that he can get out of that box that the producers want him to be in because that box prints money.
Did it have any scenes of people flying through the internet?
>>283926501>>283926579>I watched "Endless Scarlets.">It's totally a spoiler, but it was an Indian movie.hahahahalmao
>>283929018You didn't say "in my opinion" or "imo."
>>283926967The final blow was adding an isekai'd Japanese guy
>>283926579LMAO
Watched only Wolf Children and Summer Wars without knowing who Hosoda was because I don't are about who makes the things I watch.Both are very overrated movies, so I will correctly assume Hosoda is as overrated as them.Auteurs can cope and seethe.
>>283928355non-otaku reviewers aren't any more favorable towards the fillm either
>>283927392>woman falls for animal dickWow, he sure likes those themes, huh?
>>283929554this is probably bait but just on the offchance you need to know your taste is unbelievably shit
>>283926412i always thougt japanese anime critics we're somehow bland towards things, so, this is really bad uh?
>>283929905Yes. Even polite and usually measured critics said they considered suicide after watching the movie. That's where we're at 24 hours after its release.
I haven't seen whatever movie this is but people are dumbass fucking cattle. They don't want to be challenged with any new topics or have to think about anything difficult. That's why original series and original movies die while works based on some shitty garbage IP (you know which ones) rake in millions because people go in knowing what they want and they get it. The Shinkai hack got popular because he shits out the same trash and people love it because boy and girl get together yet again and then they can quickly go consume some other lowbrow media without having to furrow their brows in confusion.
>>283929966New IPs are born all the time because people do enjoy new things that are interesting and not dogmatic preachy horseshit.
>>283929966
>twitter niggerfaggot has an opinionWell damn, going by that metric I guess Israel is the greatest country on earth and Epstein did nothing wrong.
>>283926412I saw an ad for it at the movie theater and the 3DCG turned me off.Yes, I've dropped/avoided shows because they were 3DCG. I watch anime in large part because of the visually pleasing 2D visuals, and I'm not picky either. 3D however still looks like dogshit.
Why couldn’t he get pancreatic cancer instead of Kon
>>283928318according to the jewblishers, yes
>inb4 it's so bad that everyone will watch it to confirms it's indeed bad and the move will be a financial success>also they will make a sequel after that and it will flop hard
>>283926412I hope this is just cherry-picked shit to troll because the trailer looked fantastic.
>>283930492Yeah, I'm sure all the thousands of negative reviews published today calling it a disaster and the worst movie of the year are just trolling. Everyone in Japan just woke up, went to the movie theater to watch the movie on its first day and decided to just post troll reviews on the internet.
>>283930614I'm basing my comment on the handful of posts in this thread. I have no idea if there is a general consensus on Japanese social media.No need to be so damn negative because I'm offering an honest thought and not doom posting.
>>283930614>thousandsMe when I spread misinformation on the internet
>>283926412Why did nippon hate it? Is it because female MC or feminist propaganda? If so... then get fucked. That's what you get for sacrificing story telling quality and bending knee to the craziest western liberals
>>283926412pretty much all the original anime movies this year flopped hard, only jump slop can sell nowadays
>>283926412lol
>>283931117>IT DA MADE WID DA AI!You now someone is at subhuman levels of IQ when they use this generic insult.
Should just have recycled OWG a third time
>>283926800Shinkai isn't capable of 'going off the rails' because that would would require being able to make more than one movie.
>Otaku and normalfags hate itSo it's a masterpice
>>283931152Saar
>>283926412if normies are shitting on it, then it must be good.
>>283926800>Boy and the Heron was visually pretty but was a story that didn't have any kind of thematic or narrative throughline at all, it never once figured out what the fuck the movie was supposed to be about and shit would just *happen* and then not get elaborated on or connected to anything else in any way that mattered.Most of Miyazaki's movies are like this though. It's only rarely that one has a real narrative.
>>283931225Hey, he tried once.And it was one of the worst animated movies ever made.
>>283931253Literally no one likes it. There isn't a single positive tweet or review about it.
>>283926412Imagine not realizing Hosoda lost his touch back when Belle came out.
>>283931452It was kino. The story was just weak.
>>283930492It looked 90% CG. Everything but the heads. And plotwise it looked like it was about making her give up on justice, which is a hard sell that they apparently didn't pull off.
>>283931734It's pure dogshit, worse than Earthsea somehow
>>283926985Rob Liefeld was crazy popular for a decade before public opinion on his work flipped on its head. Just something to consider.
>>283932057Okay buddy.
>>283930867There are literally thousands of anime and manga about a strong female character that learn to love from a relatable Japanese dude so it can't be that.
Miyazaki invented Slice of Life. Usually things are happening while the protagonist is going about their life, and now they're living in the new circumstance they're in. "I turned in to a pig" and the dude just lives as a pig whatever. "Welp, my parents kicked me out because I gotta do something to graduate from 'little witch' to 'accredited witch'" so girl starts a delivery service riding her broom. Know what I mean?
>>283926724>CSM movie/pro-incelChainsaw man... Incel? How?!
>>283928355>Otaku probably thought the movie wasn't "anime-ish" enoughAhh, so it's like chainsaw man season 1
>>283932493Slice of life born in shoujo. Miyazaki is a self-declared male shoujo fan
>>283926869>>283926549>blue markAnon, those are bot accounts
Just saw someone defending it while saying the haters don't know enough shakespeare and baroque art, and also that it has elements of the divine comedy
>>283932857post the link, we want see it!
Film is so bad, it already became a consensus calling the people who watched it not viewers, but "victims."
Haven't seen it. No desire to attack or defend it.
>>283926412I saw some Japanese say it was worse than the live action Snow White. Holy shit.
>>283931253Anon.... you're an otaku
>>283933087I saw 2 Japanese veterans saying that it's more detrimental to Japan than the nukes dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
>>283926412>>283926501Who gives a fuck about what retards on twitter think? Why do you post this garbage here?
>>283933197Proof? That sounds funny as fuck
>>283926412>scarlet>woman in redpicked up. If the normal fags are outraged, then he must have done something right.
>>283933398Just watch Saihito with the rest of us, it sounds less painful.
>>283926412Welp, he can always go back and repurpose another Our War Game and make bucks.
>>283933492>>283933398girlboss garbage
"The armpit fetish (embarrassing!) is awful too. I hope it flops big time. Seriously nihilistic."kek armpit fetishhttps://x.com/sssugita/status/1991688288969846832
So, how is revenge bad exactly?
>>283933961Picked up
>>283926800Why do people who are so uneducated on filmmaking feel the need to voice their opinions so authoritatively?
>>283926579INDIAN MOVIE!!! HOLYSHIT LMAO!https://x.com/now_what_1205/status/1991750975300989019
>>283928355It was universally panned at Cannes. You can't use the "otaku didn't like it" defence here.
>>283926579You know a movie's bad when Japs call it "spiritually Indian" lol
>>283933492If you like dykes I guess
>>283927716That movie was so fucking stupid sometimes I think the worst thing Peter Jackson did was a really good job with the trilogy, this (((necessarily))) endless slop afterwards
>>283926412The one before that, Bella I think, looked horrible in the traiker so I never watched. This one looks bad too.Sad because he made some good movies before.Can you make a thread without a shitty twitter screenshot?
>>283926412It's probably great since japan has shit taste>>283929966TRVKE
>>283926412All I could think about when they played the preview for this before CSM Reze was that it would suck and flop hard.
>>283934366Fun fact, they played the trailer before nearly every anime movie in Japan for months and it became infamous for how annoyed it made a lot of people
>>283926412UNFORGIVABLE!
>>283926412The trailer didn't seem that impressive, so hardly surprising
>>283934120Well that explains that.
>>283931452that wasn't him "going off the rails", it was him trying to follow miyazaki's rails
>>283934437Unsurprising, really. I just tuned out the second time I went to watch Reze.
>>283929029>here's your animated Fate route bro. Hope you like CG
>>283926574>>283926873It's obvious that Hosoda hasn't been able to make good films for a while now. Mirai was bad. Belle only got artificially propped up in the west because of feminist ideology or something. Endless Scarlet's reception doesn't surprise me. Nobody should expect anything from him anymore.
>>283927335What do you have against original films with female MCs?
>>283928254>>283929187>>283931372>normies
>>283935331I miss Kon like you wouldn't believe.
>>283929088>boy meets girl, emotional problems are revealed, boy and girl help each other solve said problems, boy and girl fall in loveThat's a very broad premise, and Shinkai only did that 3 times because of the success of Kimi no Na wa (4 if you count The Garden of Words). His pre Kimi no Na wa works were quite different both in terms of content and stylistically.
>>283931443They're at least a bit more coherent. Boy and the Heron just feels like a fever dream and not in a pleasant or interesting way.
>>283928672>Mirai>8/10You're insane. Mirai is one of Hosoda's worst films and you rated it 8/10, the same rating as The Girl Who Leapt Through Time.
>>283933985Depends on how much you have to destroy yourself to attain it.
>>283932642The mc is an incel (or he was, i dont read it) and the author used his awful experience with women to create it>>283926412Never heard of it ....
>>283934120>>283926579
>>283926579>Indian Movie
>>283935574>the author used his awful experience with women to create itHe's incapable of having bad experiences with women because the ones who treat him like trash make him happy. As for Denji, he's never been an incel. He's had the opportunity to have sex but turned it down and he generally treats women with respect.
>>283935623is this an isekai?
>>283926800many, many such cases
>>283935660yes, see >>283927554
>>283927550gay
>>283926412CGI SLOPIt was doomed from the start.
>>283927224>with this dude making consent films with Female MC's?probably because "The Girl Who Leapt Through Time" was successful
>>283935744Psychonauts 2 wasn't a bad game by any stretch of the imagination
>>283927266>>283927224>pander Western/Hollywood girlboss investors demand>pander Japanese more/waifu otakuIt's "2 bird 1 stone" situation on paper
>>283935927It definitely wasn't on par with the first, it felt like the first half of a game that gets better in the second. A third game could fix most of my gripes with the narrative
>>283935440>They're at least a bit more coherent.lol no theyre not. howls moving castle and ponyo are some of the most nonsensical films ive ever seen
>>283926800>le editors need to rein the director.fuck off, probably the most pleb criticism that has became popular post SW prequels.shinkai sucks btw.
>>283935623Th-That's not a real screenshot from the movie, is it?Reverse-searching gets this promo vid:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOPY3hEYM4YAnd now that I check, OP's video is different from the older trailer I saw before. Looks even more CG-heavy than before (bleah), but shows more plot bits (good).
>>283926985Digimon is kino.
>>283935642Still a perv protagonist motivated by sex
>>283932073That is not a fair comparison hosoda has made some legitimately highbrow content Rob never has
>>283934120i never got anime dances and i'm glad that the japanese millennials share the same sentiment
>>283936302>hosoda has made some legitimately highbrow contentHis best work is a dumb summer blockbuster film
>>283936346OP/ED dances are not the same as an in-story dance number out of nowhere.
>>283936266Yeah but that's not what an incel is. Plus his real motivation is love.
Why the fuck Satoshi Kon has to die so young? I miss him, he was legitimately the best anime director, much better than even Miyazaki
>>283937193be gratefuly you don't have to watch him turn to shit like the rest
>>283935969>It definitely wasn't on par with the firststory, gameplay, and characters are better. get over your nostalgia, retard.
>>283926412Mamoru Hosoda has been on a downhill spiral ever since Mirai
>>283931443Spirited Away is very easy to follow and has clear character arc for the main character even though a lot of things surrounding the movie can seem alien to anyone who isn't Japanese.
>>283926579This is hilarious, what the fuck happens in the movie for it to get attacked like this
>>283938327Spontaneous song-and-dance number, apparently: >>283934120
>>283926579This is the most devastating thing you can say about anything
>>283934120That sounds really funny, I'll watch it now and become another victim.
>>283926412Looks like feminist slopEven if it was a masterpiece, I wouldn't care because I'm the biggest chud in the worldSo I'm glad it's failing lollet me laugh a little bit more HAHAHAHA LMAO
>>283938157>MiraiBoy and Beast
>>283926579CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO MEWHY ON EARTH EVERYONE INCLUDING JAPS HATE INDIANS SO MUCH SUDDENLYI DON'T WATCH INTERNATIONAL NEWS SO I HAVE NO IDEAS
>>283939186Indians come into our countries, poop on our streets, smell bad in our public spaces, take our jobs and rape our women.
>>283939186It's almost just a numbers game. Think of the worst 10 % of American internet users. Now imagine there were 30 times as many of those hidden under a rock somewhere and all of a sudden they started to invade the world wide web in full force. This is the scenario you get with just the bottom half of India gaining internet access. But in reality, even the top half of Indians feel very insecure about their shithole country and will act accordingly whenever the topic comes up. And finally - again because of their sheer numbers but also because of their poverty - Indians are way overrepresented in online scams of all kinds. Doesn't leave a good impression if you ever encounter one of those.The Chinese could potentially be a similar menace. Chinese nationalists are infamously insecure shitposters too. But the CCP is trying to shield its populace from the rest of the world wide web, lest their subjects get any funny ideas, so in effect they also shield us from their populace (except for their cyber warfare division). Indians, however, are enabled and empowered to roam free with no restraint.
>>283939186They still hate americans more
>>283939486everyone hates americans equally
>>283926412It really was that bad. Saw it at at film festival last month and walked out, past hosoda, right when the credits started (instead of sticking around for the q&a).
>>283926873I feel like bell is still visually pretty and it hits very hard. The only thing that doesn‘t make sense at all is how the father is not punching belle left and right and the kids are like „it‘s ok now“.
>>283938252Spirited away is literally what the other anon says. Chihiro just chills, does work, goes off, travels around and then they go back, because miyazaki remembered that her parents became pigs and the movie needs to end somehow. The entire story with getting drown in the river is a single frame at the beginning of the movie. Chihiro doesn‘t grow at all, she doesn‘t find out that she witch is playing tricks on her, she doesn‘t suddenly find a way to get her parents back or a way back home.
>>283939534*at a
>>283926724The CSM author is a faggot simp.
>>283930867The japs are already ridiculously feminist and gay. They just don't call it that.Almost all contemporary anime has weak, spineless men, and dominant, obnoxious women (and usually a crossdressing faggot). In many other shows and franchises, they simply remove the male hero, and replace it with a female, like in most new Gundam shows, while usually including ridiculously weak, cowardly or feminized men as sidekicks.It's weird how they ended up more woke than the west, considering it wasn't forced on them.
>>283939471>Chinese nationalists are infamously insecure shitposters tooBut Chinese netizens are also famously dedicated fans who create a lot of cool fan works and other content that requires a lot of effort and skill. The biggest contribution of Indian netizens are mediocre tech tutorials.
>>283926572Belle is such a weird case.It is a good story until the very very retarded last act, which start right after the final song.I’ve never seen a movie self sabotaging itself in such a retarded way in so flew minutes.Like my sister too was speechless in the end for how retarded the whole final confrontation was
>>283926587>aside from shinkai’sAnon, Suzume was full of bad writing too, and The girl of meteo was downright awful.
>>283939769Without having met or interacted you at all, I can already tell that you're a chinless chud who probably makes countless of threads complaining about yuri.
>>283926412UhhSome nips are saying this movie is actually goodhttps://x.com/masato009/status/1991861679744073974?t=mm5ivin4Vo7koprbcmvXiA&s=19
Can someone explain what's the deal with the guy trying to push the idea this movie is related somehow to feminism and failing? It's the same IP trying to upvote it's own post for the most part.
>>283940259Ok schizo
>>283939186GOOD MORNING SIR
>>283940259Nigga Hosoda literally gave interviews talking about the way anime such as Miyazaki movies portrays female characters is problematic and he wants to fix that.
>>283939186they're like niggers but they don't benefit from the years of oppression from colonial empires or Jim Crow era so they're free game
>>283940595>India wasn't colonizedAmerican education
Such overwhelming negative reviews somehow got me really interested in st least watch this fucking movie and find out what the fuck went wrong>>283926800>Boy and the Heron was visually pretty but was a story that didn't have any kind of thematic or narrative throughline at all, it never once figured out what the fuck the movie was supposed to be aboutHonestly, this was my main issue with Suzume, and for the life of me i still can't understand HOW did that fucking movie got so many praise as "one of Shinkai's best" when the plot went so unexplained and the romance was so forced
>>283940581You mean this? >I actually wanted to ask you about Miyazaki and what you thought of him. You were quoted by the Agence France-Presse as saying the following at Cannes in 2021: >“I will not name him, but there is a great master of animation who always takes a young woman as his heroine. And to be frank, I think he does it because he does not have confidence in himself as a man. This veneration of young women really disturbs me and I do not want to be a part of it.”>I wanted to ask: What did you mean by this? Several news organizations reported you were talking about Miyazaki. Do you stand by the quote? How do you feel about it now?>To be frank, I don’t really recall saying something like that or to that effect. But the way you described it, it would be hard to think of anyone besides that person, in terms of whom it’s referring to. But I don’t know if it was a misunderstanding or a misquote or a mistranslation or if I did say it and just don’t recall. But yeah, I’m not sure what to say.>I don’t think that sounds like me, in the sense that I don’t try to put down or have an ego contest with other creators. I think that kind of negativity I try to avoid. So perhaps the author of the article maybe used me as a mouthpiece and interpreted something I said in a different way and rewrote it. I don’t know. I don’t really see myself in direct competition with Miyazaki either. I see us more as coexisting in a sense of trying to do our own thing and express our own ideas and visuals through the medium of animation. I don’t know if that’s the answer you’re looking for.>https://www.vulture.com/article/mamoru-hosoda-wasnt-trying-to-insult-hayao-miyazaki.htmlDoesn't sound like feminism , I'm not sure the fuck you guys are rating about.
>>283939186>suddenly
>>283935935>every female heroine is now 'girlboss' according to imbeciles on the internetIt's all so tiresome.
>>283940712I'm morbidly curious too, but the 3DCG is still painful to look at, otherwise it'd be an easier call to just give it a shot.
>>283940768>And to be frank, I think he does it because he does not have confidence in himself as a man.SHOTS FIRED>What did you mean by this?>not me, sounds like a misquoteOh come on!
>>283940581>Miyazaki movies portrays female characters is problematic and he wants to fix thatPost it, cause' I can't find it.
>>283940768It reads like he's saying Miyazaki's a pedo manchild who's threatened by grown women.
>>283940943It reads like an English translation of a French translation of Japanese.
>>283940768he is right. miyazaki's films suffer from madonna complex.
>>283939186>mangaka goes on holiday to india (for *research* of course)>comes back utterly disappointed and writes a chapter on how shit it isheh
>>283940994>sufferThey don't. Most Miyazaki stories are very classical epics with typically idealized characters that are embodiment of virtues, both male and female. Is Lana more idealized that Conan? Sheeta than Pazu? Thinking that more realistic and down to earth characters are inherently superior and a better fit for those stories is the same as claiming that Martin is a better storyteller than Tolkien because his character swear and shit. Not that Miyazaki only ever wrote that kind of stuff anyway, Kiki and Chihiro are dumb brats and Jiro is just a shit person.
>>283940177>12.9M Viewsantibros? did we lost?
>>283927651Steamboy was good though?
>>283939968It was a massive success. The 3rd highest-grossing original Japanese film of all time.
>>283939471Indians don't use the same websites the west, outside of the ultra normalfag stuff like Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube. Hell, the only reason you see them on Twitter is because Elon let them pay to run spam bots.
>>283936346poser moron that you are
>>283939769So so true Mr. Mishima.TENNO HEIKA BANZAI!!TAISEI HOUKAN!!!!
>>283940768So is it a misquote or not?
>>283941600>Steamboy was good though?Steamboy has a bad habit of thinking the movie is over but it keeps going and going
>>283941786He's just covering his ass
>>283941698t. can't enjoy anime without 2min filler dance animation so peak frfr no cap dum fagget zoomer
>>283941879Wash that cum outta your mouth playa
>>283926412I have never seen any of his movies and posts like this make me think all his shit sucks.
>>283926412nobody wants to see girlboss trash
>>283926412I liked Mirai no Mirai but I'll admit it's because I'm an architect and the house was very nice. I barely remember what the deal with the baby and the sister was.
>>283926412I liked it
>>283941120I read a yaoi manga where the MCs travel around the world and love absolutely every country they visit except India, which leaves them with the strong impression of being a literal shithole.
>>283936346Japanese millenials were the ones who slurped the Hare Hare Yukai dance.
>>283939186Because they got access to the internet AND they are now migrating to every country in existence in greater number than ever.And the worst thing is when you realize that many of the funny/disgusting anti-jeet memes you saw on the internet weren't actually memes...
>>283930270I don't care about 3DCG, but movies like this one make the same mistake almost every 3DCG movie does and thus looks like shit. They don't work with the medium but instead just use it to save budget. There is no timing/pacing to the movement of the characters, at all. The director just told the animators "every single moment has to move at the exact same speed" and when suggested this will look like ass he will say "but it cost money to actually spend time to make it flow better"
Ok so why is it terrible beyond it being boring? Boring just makes something bad, not dogshit.
they showed the dance number in thishttps://x.com/livers_world/status/1992058030079562178
>>283941865Fair enough, could have been split into 2 movies if the scenes in the end credits had been developed.
>>283940648India wasn't colonized. It was uplifted.
is there any hope for virgin punk being good
>>283934120I only watched Summer Wars from Hosoda and the last part of the movie with all the VR things totally ruined it for me. The movie would have been perfect without it. Seems like Hosoda is doing it again.
>>283943663Here's your (You)
>>283943289NTA but I have never seen 3D even enter the realm of the best 2D works in terms of being visually pleasing. They cannot replicate the fine details of 2D in 3D and so someone who appreciates those fine details in 2D will never be able to enjoy 3D works from a visual aspect that much.It isn't like I can't watch a 3D work, but it is an immediate downgrade for me and means the sound, voice acting, and story have to be that much better.
>>283941549Otaku always loses.
>>283934120I can appreciate a good musical but the operative word here is "good",
>>283935331>only one great film under his belt.he died way too soon.I wanted goodbye eri to be directed by him.
>>283940768but /a/ makes jokes about Miyazaki being a secret pedo all the time, how is this different
>>283934173It had mixed to positive reviews at the Cannes, though.
>>283944854Yeah, I'm sure jewish feminists loved it.
>>283939798Sure chang. Sure.
>noooooooo you MUST like my auteur director's movies!I don't think I will, champ.
>>283940177>That ending? It's straight-up the cinematic version of John Lennon's "Imagine."That might be worse than the India comments.
Knowing how Japan reacts to media, it's likely just mediocre. They really do get angry over nothing, most the time.
>>283926412>FemmcThere's your problem.
>>283945738>That ending? It felt like a cinematic modern interpretation of Nicki Minaj's "Anaconda."
Japs only like shonenshit adaptions now. Real anime movies are dead.
>>283940768It's really funny how Hosoda attacks Miyazaki as a pedo in all but name. Meanwhile, Hosoda added underage incest subtext to the Digimon episode he directed.
>>283946390Japan always had the worst taste in anime because most of them are NPCs bug people, I mean just read how they talk in these screencaps it's like their fucking robots.
>>283946390But gook leveling bombed there...
>>283946137The PV is complete garbage, so I believe them. This would barely pass as mediocre for an unanticipated seasonal anime. The people paying to go to a theater and watch this garbage are victims.
>>283939186>80% of temp workers are now indians across the UK, Canada, US>80% of all temp workers are taking entry level jobs meant for student graduates>Majority of all online scams are indians>rape is so prevalent that there's no words to describe the depravity that goes on throughout the entire country>something like 15% of their entire economy is dependant on sending hundreds of millions of indians overseas to work as scab labour just to send the money back to india which is taxed by like 50% by the corrupt gov>there are 1.5 billion indians and even if they sent 100 million indians to europe, 100 million to America and so on they'd still have 1.3 billion indiansThere's a thousand reasons why indians are hated. It would warrant its own thread, which would involve pulling up an archive of other seedy shit they're doing. Best way to put it, is that they are an enemy of everyone.
>>283944711>>only one great film under his belt.>Fujinoto-tard>Actually retardedDamn, that's pretty common.
>>283926412Never the cultural impact of Oshii.Never the artistic vision of Kon.Never the mainstream appeal of Shinkai.Never the experience of Miyazaki.Not even the passion of Yamada.Hosoda is THE potential man of anime directors, he's the embodiment of good enough and run of the mill. 0 Masterpieces, his best movie was his first one if you either start at OP6 or girl who lept through time.It's weird how productive he is for 20 years and still compared to everyone else, cannot shit out a great movie.
>>283946926>One Piss tard has a shit opinion And water is wet
>>283943808Virgin punk was good.
>>283946985Lmao even the most retarded Hosoda fan would make OP6 above his last 6 movies, you're such a tourist it's unreal, same goes for the digimon movie.His best movie is girl who lept through time and people who think its the 2 furry shit he made afterwards are subhuman westerners which those 2 movies were pandering towards.
>>283947116OP6 sucks ass and TGWLTT certainly isn't his best movie. The third act is too weak.
>>283947165>t. summer wars kiddie zoomeropinion forever discarded lmao
>>283947036According to who? The 2 people who watched it?
>>283929564Beauty and the Beast did it way better. Unironically. That's basically the only story I've ever seen make such an absurd concept actually work.
>>283940768He talks about young girls being the protagonists like that's a bad thing. If Miyazaki didn't choose young girls to be the heroines, Hosoda would just call him a misogynist instead. You just can't win with people like this. It's all projection. They cry and bitch about feminism, yet when feminism is actually practiced, they seethe. They cry and bitch about protecting the children, yet children simply existing in fiction is inherently sexual to them. Reset the fucking clock. Again.
>>283947675>They cry and bitch about feminism, yet when feminism is actually practiced, they seetheWhere is the inconsistency? We're just against feminism. It's that simple.
>>283939486>>283939502These swarthy posters will join their cousins in wishing genocide on the Japanese nation sometime in the next few years.
>>283926412This wasn’t at Cannes, it premiered months later in Venice.
>>283935503That movie earned him an Oscar nomination, the only anime director outside Ghibli to have gotten one.
>>283926800boy and the heron its a movie focused primarly on subtext, its an thesis of miyazaki's whole artist career throughout his life and his legacy, the wizard aka miyazaki and the house/ that big rock is ghibli and the boy are the new generations of animators trying to get into ghibli after he dies, futjermore the wizard is so against this future panorama that he rathers to ends it in his own terms than give it to the new generations. The movie is basically "New gens wont get ghibli after i died"
>>283926800Most great films are secretly committee projects.
>>283941669Indians might not habitually use sites like 4chan, but you'll still see them just by overflow. They do really like Reddit or Quora because there's an association with those being the 'smart' websites.
>>283932642Denji is a literal incel and the story revolves around his quest for pussy. The author is potentially an incel, but really wants a dommy-mommy to step on his balls.
>>283945591If you're a big enough fan of something in the otaku sphere you'll see it. Plenty of things that get posted here were made by Chinese fans/came from Bilibili.
>>283926800Shinkai's problem is that while his movies are visually beautiful he has no intellectual or spiritual artistry in his body. His films are only surface deep and don't lend themselves much to theory or analysis which is why no one makes video essays on Shinkai movies despite how popular they are.Everything he directs is like watching a really pretty commercial. Which is funny because Shinkai has directed commercials before.I really liked Garden of Words but I feel like almost all the parts I liked were just Shinkai trying to appeal to my hag fetish so I'd buy a ticket and not because it had anything to say about society.
>>283949099Shows how much of a joke the Oscars have become
>>283927224>>283935889>>283935935There are two types of male writers. 1.) Those that hate women. 2.) Those that just write their perfect waifu/transsexual alter-ego.
>>283950136>video essays>societyHoly shit you're a pretentious twat. Also, I checked. There are video essays about Shinkai's films.
>>283947165The Girl Who Leapt Through Time is absolutely Hosoda's best movie.
Oh my god, I just realized the test in "low test" is short for testosterone, I am a fucking moron.Anyway, carry on.
>>283950136>video essayslol wtf are you talking about? 5 Centimeters per Second is a beloved classic everyone in Japan talks about. The live action was a big success too, the novel sold almost 2 million copies worldwide. Garden of Words also, very discussed in Japanese interwebs. Don't even need to say anything about Your Name. Weathering With You is also one of the most discussed original films aside from Ghibli on Japanese internet. You're just looking at the wrong places.
>>283950136>His films are only surface deep and don't lend themselves much to theory or analysisYou have no idea, because you don't know anything about Japan. You don't understand the conflict of his works. You genuinely have no idea why Kimino Na wa was such a massive success.It's because it deals entirely in very real experiences, a lot of which are unique to life in Japan, but some of which are universal. Many of his other films are more Japanese as well.It's a similar situation to the Persona games, where media that is deeply, intrisically Japanese and about very specific experiences growing up in Japan has inexplicably gotten popular overseas.
>>283950905Can you expand on this? Because both Your Name and Weathering With You feel like they're just rehashing the same fucking story hes been telling his entire career. What part of Your Name is intrinsically linked to the Japanese condition? It just comes off like a standard coming of age romance.
>>283950136>the measure of great movies is whether grifters on youpoop feel incentivized to make video essays about them
>>283926412Can't be worse than his previous.
>>283951063>griftersi hate when retards use this word to describe "anyone on the internet that talks about media or art in any way" even if they don't make money off it
>>283926985This is fine though.
>>283926412The only Hosoda movie I've ever seen was this one. And it's one of the most boring things I've ever watched. A lot of what people are saying about this new movie is how I feel about this one.
>>283951234NO NO NO SHUT UP SHUT UP OLD GOOD NEW BAD!!!!
>>283951051Because you misunderstand what the 'romance' is actually about. To understand, you need to remind yourself of Japan's geological place in the world, as an island on the ring of fire. Earthquakes, tsunamis, and so on are commonplace natural disasters. Often minor, but occasionally disastrously major. It doesn't matter what age you are in Japan, you or someone you know lived through a major natural disaster... or knows someone who didn't survive one. Your Name isn't about boy meets girl. Its about boy LOSES girl. Establishing a relationship that is extremely personal, but remote, and then one day you just... get cut off. Killed by a random act of fate. The fantasy of Your Name is to reach back into the past and save a loved one taken too soon by a natural disaster. To get back someone precious that you lost. For millions of people in Japan, they have friends or loved ones that fantasy specifically appeals to specifically in the context of a natural disaster. Suzume touches on very similar context, but there the focus is on REMEMBERING both the people and the places that have been lost, whereas in Your Name it is more specifically about saving them from having died in the first place. Your Name is about denying that death, and Suzume is about the necessity but also the hurt of remembering that grief. Weathering With You is much more straightforwardly a simple love story than either of the above is, and is in my mind part of why its the weakest film of the three.
>>283926985Fuck you, Boy and the Beast was great.
>>283926579HOLY INDIA I'M USING THAT FROM NOW ON KEK
>>283948919Actually, it had its world premiere at the Cannes then later on screened in Venice, followed by Toronto then New York.
>>283926800>muh editorsStop trying to apply what you heard about George Lucas to everyone and everything. The Boy and the Heron was derailed by the death of Takahata.
>>283926587thats because boy was a bad movie propped by name recognition and good animation
>>283927627Old men don't need any more money. No one over 40 should get another yen. Let kids break through again.
>>283935437It's that formula that put him on the map and that he has been repeating so far, he said as much himself he's pretty much a slave to his audience and the execs and can't afford to make stuff he really want because of it.
>>283926931WWY is better than YN
>>283928186Suzume had a mediocre ending though and yes WWY had a weak third act. Characters were fine in WWY but like you said it lacked at the end and it felt too similar to YN. Suzume simply wasn't good enough after the first act.
>>283927716This was just bland. It was okay but it wasn't offensive. The woman was doing it for filial piety and she became an adventurer at the end rather than a queen.
>>283952363Remind me how old Shingo Natsume is again?
>>283951672Not that many people die of earthquakes and tsunamis in Japan.
Where's the camrip?
>>283951672>Weathering With You is much more straightforwardly a simple love story than either of the above is, and is in my mind part of why its the weakest film of the three.Ironically, Tenki no Ko is the Shinkai film that has the most to say about "society"
>>283953509Do you have a point?
Only good thing that came out of Hosoda is this sexy taboo ship from Summer Wars, that's it. God I wish there was more fanart of them.
>>283954854>His quote about Kazuma from Summer Wars has always made me respect him as a creator"Shota boypussy is the fucking best!"?
>>283934262it's dykeshit?
>>283939186they literally eat from the floor, poop on the streets, are horny 24h, don't understand social boundaries and ruin the internet because of thatgood morning saar show bob and vagene ok? ok rape u tomorrow
Have people finally accepted that hosoda is a shit writer and needs to hire a dedicated screenwriter to save him from his shitty melodrama plots?
>>283953597Japs don’t do camrips anymore because they’re cowards
>>283933961Hold on, maybe this is actually good
>>283949528What a role model.
>>283951882False, it never played at Cannes. There we no reviews for that until its world premiere at Venice.
>>283926412Hosoda career will never be over while digimon exists.He just needs to go back and do another digimon movie.
>>283951672that doesn't sound particularly unique to the Japaneseeven in burgerland you've probably experienced at least one natural disaster depending on where you live
>>283927392It was a boring mess and the ending was so rushed and blunt that it was laughable
>>283939961The fact that they didn't even follow up with what happened to the kids and their shitty dad is nuts, just "whew glad thats over lets go home everybody!"
>>283939186Everyone got absolutely tired of them this year
>>283939486Sure they do pajeet...
>>283939186>>283941120>>283943071>>283946607>suddenlyMaybe I'm off here but my impression is that India was not this hated before and this hatred is relatively new phenomenon. At least in America, India used to have something more of a positive reputation and was viewed like a mystic, exotic country. The American government shilled India hard as the next Asian superpower that will keep China in check. The media promoted Indians as the friendliest people in the world with a rich and deep culture. Then Indians flooded the internet and immigrated en masse to the rest of the world (and I don't need to go into detail about the behavior they've gained a reputation for) and those expectations shattered. Tons of travel vlogs showed everyone firsthand how dirty India is and its host of other problems, and travelers frequently called India the worst country they've been to (ironically, the same thing improved China's reputation). Videos of Indian street food horror among others went viral. I feel that Indian hatred came from a culture shock and backlash to the massive disconnect between what people were told and the reality they experienced.
>>283957647Even though it's off-topic, I'd like to appreciate your post for having some thought put into it beyond the usual /pol/ garbage everyone spews nowadays.
>>283947420Yes I watched it and it was good. Though I didn't care to stick around for the hour of behind the scenes at the end.
>>283957391Who's everyone
>>283926412I saw a preview of this when I went to see Chainsaw Man and thought it looked pretty good. What a shame.
>>283957856Yeah, because you're a fake fan and a bitch.
>>283957856Also here's proof I saw Scarlet.
>>283939186>dogshit hygiene>keep breeding like rabbits >scammers>poo in loo>brown>worst accent in all of humanity when speaking English>rapist culture
>>283957909If you're a real fan then why didn't you go watch it huh
>>283957957they sound based honestly
I watched the movie, the beginning is absolute kino. Like medieval fantasy berserk type shit. Somewhere along the way the action and the entire plot takes a sharp break and it slowly devolves into the most boring slop ever, than booom you get this annoying ass highschool musical shit. Dogshit movie with a massive false premise. The director should kill himself for wasting talented animators on such a slop.
>>283958005The best (worst) part for me was watching that cgi slop flash mob dance the day after ChaO's 2d sakuga one.
>>283958005Time travel slop is always bound to go wrong.
this kind of makes me want to watch it desua trainwreck this bad is worth experiencing
>>283958005>talented animatorsBut it's CGI?
>>283939186Weird, creepy, smelly, ugly, short, retarded rapists
>>283958391They do resemble the average /a/non.
>>283958391The videos women take of them getting stared at by packs of them is pretty funny
>>283958507Recent video is of one straight up jerking off to a white woman and demanding sex.This brownoids are fucking unhinged
>everyone forgot about the One piece film he directedIts the best one piece movie and of the most interesting visual experience in anime period, he was playing at the same level of satoshi kon there in alot of the shots
>>283958534Yes, because as you all know we care deeply about womens' rights here.
>>283957647no, even in the 2000s there was the stereotype of getting an Indian guy on customer support because they were outsourcing jobs to India>>283957916What did you think of it?
>>283958681Tech support stereotype is still better than the reputation Indians have now.
>>283958681It was mediocre from the start. The dance scene(s) were painfully embarassing to watch. Didn't like the twist nor the ending. Not worth paying to see in theaters.
>>283926412Shame. Hosoda will always have a special place with me for rewriting my brain with our war game
>>283926412>The film is inspired by the Shakespearean tragedy Hamlet[2] and follows the eponymous princess >Princessit´s literally a man with a white dress
>>283926800the movies of Mr. Hosoda always are a mix of amazing 2D with the most horrible CGI. Summer Wars and Belle has CGI of the quality of the first playstation
People speciously accuse people in the industry of pandering to westerners a lot on /a/, when for the most part there's a big firewall between the domestic Japanese producers and the western market. Overwhelming vast amount of western shit you see in anime comes from people who just like western shit and so it influenced them.That ain't the case here. Hosoda is out their sucking nigger's cock's in Venice trying to get senpai to notice him. Not every film he makes but it's sure as fuck happened before at it looks like it's happening with this one. Guy needs to fucking stop. Just make honest films about Japanese childhood again for the love of god.
>>283939186i don't hate them purely from racial issues but it's genuinely off-putting that these people are some of the biggest dickriders of pissrael purely because they hate islam so much they'd just side with anyone who has brutally massacred so many innocent people for decades. these people aren't well in their headsanyway i don't care about hosoda at all
>>283927055It has him writing the script which is already a gigantic red flag.
>>283939186People are sick of the roaches being sex pests wherever they go on top of being disgusting in every way possible. Compound this with a culture of scamming that makes gypsies blush (they are literally desi anyways) you have a group of people with no positives
>>283926501No way it's worse than snow white
>>283949528Allegory is a shitty way to write a storyt.Tolkien
>>283939186The real shit is that the lower castes broke containment. It used to be that most of the people you saw from India (in person or on TV) were mid or upper caste. They're the ones who had the wherewithal and the means to immigrate and understood how to make themselves presentable, thus conjuring the model minority image. The unwashed masses of the lower castes stayed in India and everyone could ignore them as humble peasants.Then the proliferation of the internet meant that within the span of a decade, all those peasants are able to be seen by the outside world and are able to see the outside world back. The peasants realize they don't have to stay in their shithole anymore and everyone else finally realizes how fucking big of a shithole it is. Except it's such a short timeframe that the peasants are still bringing the mindset of living in a shithole with them and forming shithole colonies wherever they end up. That just ends up magnifying the hatred because not only are you seeing these retard peasants online, but you're getting live exposure to them as well.
>>283960635The man who wrote a story about humble English countryfolk thwarting the evil forces of industrialization really shouldn't be talking shit about allegory.
>>283960673>The real shit is that the lower castes broke containment>Implying the high caste aren't just as bad if not worse
>>283928672One Piece Movie 6 was good. It's 8/10 unlike the snoozefest that was Belle.
Anime back in the day used to have a very strong arthouse undercurrent. People who had a creative vision but lacked the manpower/money/permissions to execute it anywhere else would find their home in animation, and early on in its history the indie scene and the industry scene were already linked.You go to every decade of anime up to the 00s, and there is always plenty of works entirely headed by directors or animators pushing forward with their idiosyncratic concepts and visions. The last 10-15 years though? A complete wasteland, nobody interesting directs anything, no interesting new animators with a strong individuality show up, established figures become washed as if by magic, everything turns into endless sequels, remakes, adaptations, pure money-making schemes. There's no single animator shorts anymore, no real OVA market, no 4°C, no MADHOUSE giving weird directors a chance to make their dream project every once in a while, not even noitaminA anymore. It's all just money-chasing.
>>283959750It's strange because I thought Hosoda knew his depictions of Japan and Japanese life were his strengths from early on. He even denied taking helm of the Digimon anime past the first short film, the movies, and one episode that takes place only in Japan (the famous Episode 21) because he wasn't interested in the fantasy land aspect of the Digital World. Yet he comes out with this piss poor attempt at fantasy and also discards his signature artstyle and use of 2D animation.
>>283935927shaifer can't be his own boss thoblows any budget then asks for more, to blow it again
>>283960952>no 4cChaO came out this year and it was good
>>283960952Japan is also having an issue of mentorship and training degrading over the decades, though not as bad as how America nuked its 2D legacy with Disney nixing its 2D animation department (those American animation masters are not incentivized to train new blood, meaning a return to something like Fantasia at the same budget would be difficult now, if not possible when the last masters die). Older animators are constantly complaining that the anime industry growing so large means that the talent has been spread thin without the new blood being well trained enough to meet all the demand and produce high level work at the same time. New aspiring directors are also more likely to be staunchly "anime fans" and not also "film fans" or even fans of books or comics (Miyazaki often croaks about this), leading to derivative and less inspired/novel films. That's why I think it's double the tragedy that Satoshi Kon died so early, he could've have 20-40 more years to train protégés and new talent in the industry through his movies.
>>283950667>Oh my god, I just realized the test in "low test" is short for testosterone"High test" and "low test" have been used as terms for "strong" and "weak" respectively since at least WWII and that usage was derived from gasoline octane ratings.
>>283960952in the end money ruins everything
>>283961217>New aspiring directors are also more likely to be staunchly "anime fans" and not also "film fans" or even fans of books or comics (Miyazaki often croaks about this), leading to derivative and less inspired/novel films.This is a problem everywhere, but I don't agree that the fault is solely on the creators. To some extent, I think it's a problem with audiences as well. It's ridiculously hard to be novel when both you and your audience are extremely well versed in your medium. This often leads to either giving up and simply indulging in tropes or trying too hard to be new/subversive and forgetting to make something actually good in the process.
Uh just let me clear that nips rather love the liveliness of the dance scene in indian movieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLsPLfPcay0People meming Hosoda for his sudden attempts to mindlessly insert dance after dance after dance
>>283932857>elements of the divine comedySo you have sit there and watch her being told what hell looks like while lamenting the human condition and fall of rome?
>>283957647Araki trashed poos long before.
>>283949099The fucking Boss Baby was nominated for an Oscar
>>283927275It starts like a Hamlet reimagining, with the FemMC’s kingly father being murdered and her being sent away to some hell dimension. She obviously swears revenge, but then the director introduces an isekai’d average Japanese guy (TM), who loves pacifism and won’t stop preaching about pacifism. They hurriedly fall in love, Scarlet embraces pacifism and forgiveness, and the audience is taught a moral lesson that no matter what has been done to you and your country, violence is always wrong. According to the Cannes reviews, it was absolutely excruciating to watch.
>>283960952I was going to say that Sengoku collection was very inspired in it's format, it's 2012 but it had a lot of cool stuff going for it.Flip flappers was also weird in an awkward kind of way.I don't think anything outside of Go Hands has tried anything revolutionary with scene direction either.As far as movies go, I think only the one with the eloping kids and time travel shenanigans caught my eye.
>>283928254>>283928254Well yeah, I want to assume they have the courtesy to not spoil the movie on social media, even it is a steaming pile of dogshit
>>283946563Gotta admit though a motorbike horse is pretty cool.
>>283962474I’ve looked up some Western reviews and man, the isekai guy sounds obnoxious.>Hijiri is a paragon of selflessness who teaches Scarlet that living for others is the only fulfilling way. Hijiri even questions her ruthless approach to warriors sent by her uncle to finish her off, telling Scarlet: “The ultimate warrior fires invisible arrows from an invisible bow.” That isn’t really Scarlet’s style, and it’s probably too much to ask to put the weapons down while she’s actively being hunted.
>>283939186SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>283962474Shirou from F/SN is the only protag who gets away with that because he says some dumb shit and is fucking crazy.
Nips wants him to never write anything about woman ever again and make a BL movie instead
>>283926412he really peaked with Baron Omatsuri
>>283960952I blame Japan's economy. With the lack of labor and the success of Shounen there is less and less reason for studios like 4C to continue making interesting films that end up always flopping. 4C is still doing it somehow.
>>283962755Helps that he's not a pacifist, just retarded in other ways.
>>283960635Tolkien is such a douche on this topic. To him, it's not allegory unless it's so lacking in subtelty that it literally cannot be interpreted in any other way than how the author intended it.
>>283962960doesn't he get killed by rider right after this? I don't think a bad end really proves a point.
>>283926579Indians make kinos though
Shoulda just remade Digimon Our War Game again for the 4th time
>>283927779Yeah it really sounds like one samefag lmao
>>283940768>>283944815I respect a lolicon like Miyazaki more than I do a gay shotacon like Hosoda.
>>283963327No, Rider escapes with Shinji after that. It's not one of the dead ends:https://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%2063/
>>283940768Sounds like he just doesn't like female heroines being revered too much, that's like the opposite of feminism. He didn't even say he hated young women or accusing Miyazaki liking young girls too much.Sounds like a twisted mistranslation too in the first place, which is common by American publications.
>>283940177Even this guy says boy and the beast is shit
>>283941120>>283942965fucking lmao getting high on bang lassi, scenes with streetshitters by the tracks, fucking cocaine dealers around every cornermangaka have no filter I love it
>>283962474>>283962717Sounds like a much clumsier take on what Vinland Saga tried to do.
>>283926412The trailer for this was shown when I went to see CSM and it looked like the most minimum effort someone could put into plagiarizing Fate, big mistake not being honest about being a musical and having alleged armpit service because I would've been sold, now I definitely need to see it because I don't want to miss the closest thing this generation has to Devilman (2004)
>>283958005>the beginning is absolute kino. Like medieval fantasy berserk type shitguy who has only seen berserk and isekai watching his second anime movie:
So is it just a preachy movie that says you should take no recourse if someone does something bad to you or your family?
>>283926579>WHAT DID THEY MEAN BY THIShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcPrNC4AivE
>>283950136No, the problem is that Shinkai exhausted the limited span of what he has from a creativity perspective. It's not that I don't like what he has going on from what I have watched from him but he has started to rehash way too many portions and pieces of his prior films. We don't know what his new film is but I don't have that high hopes for what it might entail and if he won't again do another rehash of him films in some form, explicit or veiled.From my point of view, the biggest miss he made, whether right or wrong, was that he never stayed long enough at Falcom to witness the renaissance in gamemaking they had and he left on the pivotal title that started that (Zwei) which they credited to him after he left the company doing minimal work on it in a rare move. Only working on The Legend of Heroes III: Song of the Ocean and Ys II Eternal is really limiting. He would've gotten a lot more mileage from a creative perspective if he participated in some seminal games made during this period by the company like Ys VI and the first Trails in the Sky game. Instead, he went to Minori to direct the trailers and openings instead for some reason during this time which while for nice titles like Ef: A Fairy Tale of the Two, didn't have that much going on creatively compared to what Falcom was doing.
>>283939186H1B abuse and we all realized Adi Shankar not only ruined Castlevania and Devil May Cry with his "anime", but also was solely responsible for getting Apu removed from The Simpsons. Once your most positive Indian icon is removed from media, you're left with the perception of Indians that are left by people like Shankar, and videos that Kitbonga and Tyler Olivera put out.
>>283951672>>283950905
>>283945591No there are some good Chinese people, especially the ones who form their own spheres.
>>283957765But he basically said the same thing as everyone else, just in a more polite manner.
>>283964994I can't tell if this is scathing parody or painfully serious.
>>283926579Kek what the fuck.
>>283947461The interesting thing about Beauty and the Beast is that the original novel was about the Beauty learning to see the Beast's inner beauty, she was the one who got the character development. The Disney movie changed it so that the Beast was the one who realized he needed to fix himself and chose to consciously work on his character development. It was only after he started trying that Belle started to fall for him. Both of them were outcasts who found solace in each other. Somehow this gets spun into Stockholm syndrome and "I can fix him". Most of these choices were made by the lyricist of the movie, a gay man who was dying of AIDS during the movie's production, which gives a lot of context to how the villagers/mob were written.It was strange to see Hosoda import the Disney version of Beauty and the Beast and remove it from said context.
>>283938530this
Anime was a mistake
>>283964876>Adi Shankar not only ruined Castlevania and Devil May CryLet's be honest here DMC already had some black marks on it
>>283926412I'll reserve my judgement for after I've seen the movie (pirated) myself. Rather than listening to limp-dicked chigyu jap reviews on twitter.
>>283966416That was a particularly bad one, but that was Capcom going through it's retarded "Westerners are our greatest strength" phase, which you can argue they never really exited. For what it's worth, DmC's gameplay was actually pretty servicable, and the game was so cringe it was kino at some points.Netflix May Cry has almost nothing going for it but Kevin Conroy, who's been gone for a while now, so we can't even look forward to his voice anymore. It's honestly more insulting because it's trying to stay closer to the canon series than DmC did while tearing down everything that made the series great at the same time. Literal skinsuit-tier bullshit, filled with nothing but surface-level cameos, very unfitting licensed music, and an anti-George Bush message that we're like 15 years far-removed from, and the people who watch this shit are pro-inifinity wars anyways.
>>283969074DmC actually worked as a telenovela style fanfiction if you played the game in Spanish. The campiness of the Spanish deliveries just work with the nonsense of the game.There's a reason Donte el exterminador de demonios is one of the few things that spawned from that game that isn't looked down.
>>283969074Fair points, hell I've played DMC:Devil May Cry and will admit it has some stuff I wish got ported to the main game (a dedicated dodge button and Must Style Mode) and purely with gameplay as the only metric is a pretty solid game. That being said I still have it as emblematic of the absolute lowest point in the franchise's history. People forget stuff like how just hateful Ninja Theory was against DMC and how the marketing fiasco and the pushback went hand in hand with the Mass Effect 3 ending causing VG journalism to show it's true face. Shankar's "anime" might be worse but DMC:Devil May Cry was part of something much bigger than itself.
>>283939186The timeline>india extreme pollution documentals of the 2000s>pewdiepie vs T-series 2010s>kitbooga do not redeem 2010s>street shitting memes of 4chan 2010s>mass migration to the west 2020s>indian disgusting street food virals 2020s>the aislop, CEO, IT take over 2020s>the poop throwing festival 2020s
>feminismNever an issue, many anime were successful with different ideals.The problem is the dogshit cgi, designs and sudden musical numbers.
>twitter screencap thread but japanese /a/ has fallen we're /tv/ tier now
>>283927055A team, B team or Gook team madhouse?
>>283970271>spatsWorse than the garbage 3D
>>283957647>>283957765>>283969687>this hatred is relatively new phenomenon
>>283927716The only good frames of this movie are where the main chick's tits are jiggling around
>>283926412I know him for digimon movie and incest stuff. I thought he was based. Hikari's Cunny man!
>>283969276https://youtube.com/watch?v=TyUArTDYYVc
