probably a case of unreliable narrator.
Nobody is "bad" on purpose

>Mother burns son
>Father is to blame

Yes, yes.
Except through the magic of storytelling, you experience the world through Endeavor's eyes and come to understand him as a man, and that he regrets these things and wants to make amends.
One of the benefits fiction has over real life is that you don't have to make much of an effort to understand a character 90% of the the time, because you're told explicitly that the author wants you to feel.

>>283986174
>My father destroyed my family, mistreated my mom, ruined my childhood, so am I supposed to forgive him, otherwise I am the villain of the story only because my father is a great warrior? Fuck off Japan.
well yeah kinda, forgiveness is a heroic trait and we get plenty of insight into how endeavor has genuinely changed and actively tries to make amends for what he did, in the real world i dont think its something that could be fixed and shoto would not even reconnect with him until much later in life, but everyone is a super empath in the world of storytelling so once the audience emotionally understands something every other relevant character in the story does, otherwise it'd just be narratively frustrating

>anon discovers Japanese honor culture

>>283986174
Because it shows he truly got past his childhood trauma and grew into an adult. It doesn't emotionally affect him anymore. And he now sees his father as a broken man and chooses to help him.

>>283986174
It's fiction so he changes for the better. Makes sense to forgive him then. In reality they just get worse and then they die, so I understand why you wouldn't want to forgive them.

Like, his name is fucking "Endeavor"; it's actually a bit on the nose, now that I think about it.
He's trying his best, for God's sake.

thoughts on the latest episode?

Cats in the cradle, OP.

>>283986174
When the mom is the one that burned one of her sons' faces off it becomes a bit easier to forgive the dad.

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>>283986174
it's not healthy to live in turmoil over your past

>>283986425
>>283986942
she became mentally ill because of endeavor's abuse

>>283987044
>endeavor's abuse
What abuse?

>>283986174
Don't let the hate you feel control you and use it as a means of justification for your actions.

>>283986174
OP grew up without a Dad to teach him and make him a better person. Part of growing up is realizing your parents are just people doing what they think is best. Even if its wrong.

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>>283986174
Blood is thicker than water and you only get one family. The west has forgotten this and is declining because of it.

>>283987351
What the hell is up with third-worlder lately.

>>283987351
>Says anon still living at home and dependent on his family in his 30s

>>283986174
His reputation is in absolute tatters, the public thinks he's a monster, and not even all of his family fully forgives him, they just don't actively hate him as much.
>>283986667
They even all end up suffering some kind of scarring from trying to stop Toya, it's pretty blatant

>>283986174
You might think you are smart for calling out shit writing but the fact is that you are watching My Hero Academia which is awful and anybody with a brain would realize it in one episode, and then assume a whole country with centuries of writing is like that slop you weren't smart enough to drop in minutes.
You are a fucking retard.

>>283987339
It's crazy how the mangaka had to keep escalating Endeavour's behavior an show him in the absolute worst light possible. An the fanbase still doesn't hate him.

Also Endeavour did nothing wrong.
That crazy bitch burnt her son because she couldn't hurt Endeavour

>>283986174
Takes some media literacy classes. The text tells us that heroes are good. Endeavor is a hero that does heroic things, this means that Endeavor is a good guy.

>>283986174
Japanese people like characters like that. They like characters who don't stoop to the villains level which is why "if you kill him you're just as bad as the villain" meme is so common.
If it was something like wrestling, if the villain fights dirty and hits the protag with a chair japanese people want the protag to endure and keep fighting fair. In burgerland if the villain hits the protag with a chair they want the protag to do the same or worse back.
Forgiving him makes him more heroic so he forgives him so thats all there is to it. This isn't a deep story where characters relationships can have nuisance, this is a comic book for little boys, Shoto could never be written where he would not forgive his father because Shoto is a good guy and thats what good guys do.

>>283986247
This.

>>283986174
Yes anon, forgiveness is the way of Christ.
Those who truly repent their sins, have already received the most cruel punishment of all.
These teachings of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christos are what sets the first world apart from the rest.

>>283986174
It's called family values. The West has been inverted in that they now think that children are allowed to criticize their parents ad nauseum and the parents can only show respect and deference to their children.

>>283986174
You need to internalize the meaning of 和, OP. When you have so many people living in a small island preserving Wa becomes essential.

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I was more confused on why we needed an entire arc of this guy and Deku having a sperg rage against him. What were his crimes exactly? Some petty theft and plans to ruin a fucking high school dance?

>>283989466
If you plan on shitting up a super hero high school party you should expect to get your ass beat.

>>283987351
That's not the quote. The full quote is:
>The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb

Your family are the people you love and cherish the most in life, just because they're blood relation doesn't make them family.

>>283989499
You have been tricked by a jew.
>Writing in the 1990s and 2000s, author Albert Jack[18] and Messianic minister Richard Pustelniak,[19] claim that the original meaning of the expression was that the ties between people who have made a blood covenant (or have shed blood together in battle) were stronger than ties formed by "the water of the womb", thus "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb". Neither of the authors cites any sources to support his claim.

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>>283989499
And whats thicker than both? Cum, and you came from your daddy's cum, so forgive your old man, man.

>>283986174
Endy did literally nothing wrong.

His wife was mentally fragile, his son was born a psycho.

>>283987339
>Wife does seomthing retarded and endangers her sons life
>husband snaps and slaps her or throws her on the ground
>What massive abuse, how could he, this will surely cause her a compelt emental breakdown

the biggest mistake Endy made was taking her as his wife.

>>283987339
She totally deserved this btw, she had one job and fucked it up.

>>283989544
Rei was the one that wanted more kids. Endy was fine with Toya but she had a breeding fetish.

>>283986174
>Local Child Discovers Different Societal Norms
>News at 11

>my dad is a piece of shit and my mom burned me as a toddler
>but I forgive them because this one green kid from hero school is stronger than me and cries a whole lot
pulitzer prize level of storytelling

>>283986247
why are tou telling your job about your family

>>283987044
all women are mentally ill

>>283986174
you're not a hero and will never be capable of being a hero

>>283987044
I think she became mentally ill after her child died.

>>283986174
Glorious nippon confucian influence, please understand.

>>283987786
>My Hero Academia which is awful and anybody with a brain would realize it in one episode, and then assume a whole country with centuries of writing is like that slop you weren't smart enough to drop in minutes.

Japanese people ARE like that in real life, they like to humiliate themselves for the keep up the appearances.

>>283987786
Such a salty ass reply could only mean you've seen the show yourself, you cocky ass retard. Otherwise where would all these sense of contempt come from?

>>283989021
Anon there is literally a son in that same family who didn't forgive him, cuts ties with him after the big war, and zero people hold it against him because he was the only person in the family enji didn't give a shit about and all he remembers of his childhood was the abuse and neglect. If you want to respect a dad like that more power to you

>>283986528
>forgiveness is a heroic trait
Tell that to his mother, whom Endevour forced hr to have sex.

>>283991233
NAh.

That son just dumps everything bad anyone ever did in the family 100% on Endy, as if no one else has any agency or will.
And he didn't cut ties with him.

>>283986471
>One of the benefits fiction has over real life is that you don't have to make much of an effort to understand a character 90% of the the time, because you're told explicitly that the author wants you to feel.
You still have to make the effort of bothering to read the thing which in turn filters 90% of people.

>>283987925
>They like characters who don't stoop to the villains level which is why "if you kill him you're just as bad as the villain" meme is so common.
You're literally describing the code of conduct of most of the most popular western super heroes.

>>283986247
Asians are way to submissive

>>283986174
Why did they have to make every character cuck? even All for One. This was only character made sense to me.

Women are emotional and shouldn't be allowed have opinion. Endeavor was doing what every father should do.

>>283986247
Getting job in Japan must be hellish

>>283986174
Fans call it "character development" but Hori changed the character retroactively into someone who was never that bad to begin with. He was just misunderstood, making it feel unfair to hate him. As opposed to someone who destroyed his family out of pure selfishness and only realizes how awful he's been once he got what he wanted, meaning he deserves scorn but can earn sympathy and forgiveness without the characters or audience being manipulated into giving it to him.

>>283986174
the problem is not about forgiving someone or not, it's about the author doing a complete 180° on this characters personality.
>I am a complete asshole that only cares about winning
>what? My Rival is dead?
>I guess I am a good dad now and am sorry for everything I did before
there is zero reason for this sudden change

Literally when is it stated that not forgiving endeavir would be morally wrong. Endeavor knows what he did was wrong he apologized for it but he knows hes not entitled to forgiveness. Hes apologizing to let people know that he accepts his faults not because he expects a pat on the back???

>>283994166
He realize all his goals were pointless

>>283986247
sadly true

>>283994166
we had chapters dedicated to his realization that all he did beforehand was meaningless and had to cope with what to do for his and and his family's future. He also had Hawks who helped him open up as a person.

>>283991216
The contempt comes from looking at fanart of the girls and knowing the author is not good enough to give them a good manga

>>283994166
>>283994111
Did he? The manga keeps bashing your head with the fact that he was a shitty person and his son keeps reminding him how shitty he was every time they met and in front of everyone nonetheless. The manga doesn't whitewash or convay you it's a misunderstanding. It just explores the story from different angles.

>>283987044
And Endeavor became mentally ill because of Chad Might

>>283987778
People bitch about the scar. Those who have never seen a 3rd-degree burn think it's red and raw, but in reality, the flesh is changing texture. In reality Endeavor, who has fire resistance, wouldn't have a gruesome scar like Deadpool from Marvel comics.

>>283996443
From his father’s death*
Fify

>>283986174
No, fuckface. You become the villain when you kill 30 innocents with cold blood. You can cut ties and take your wife’s surname like a cuck and no one will consider you a villain.

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>>283989583
>Rei is an arranged marriage broodmare who has four children for the sake of eugenics.
>Story does not paint Endy as completely irredeemable for this, even has Rei stick with him in the ending and share responsibility for the families hardships.
The entire Todoroki drama subplot was just an excuse for Hori to put subtle breeding propaganda in his manga. Based and Abe-pilled.

>>283986174
There's a such thing as a "three-dimensional character". Not that would you understand with your black-and-white mentality.

>>283989699
>He isn't telling his job every detail of his family life
Boss-Sama, this Anon-San is not performing filial piety as our ancient lord Ieyasu Tokugawa intended...

>>283996435
>The manga keeps bashing your head with the fact that he was a shitty person and his son keeps reminding him how shitty he was every time they met and in front of everyone nonetheless.
He knows he's a shitty person, is apologetic, and willing to make amends. The son does this because his arc is about learning to forgive his father. This is made easier by showing these "different angles" that reveal he was not as terrible as his son thought he was, it was complicated, he had good intentions, he made mistakes, etc. It's Itachi 2.0

>>283997013
Does anyone actually admit Itachi made mistakes in Naruto though? I thought everyone praised him for what a good boy he was.

>>283997013
Kishi made a 180 turn with Itachi. There was no buildup, no journey to be better not trying to do the right thing. Itachi went from a man who committed genocide his entire clan to a man who stopped a larger war.

>>283997098
Itachi does, but because he is insane he thinks what he did wrong was not ask for his six-year-old brother's help with a complex political situation.

>>283986174
Did Shoto forgive Endeavor?

>>283986425
Father caused her to snap. It's his fault.

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>>283986174
>The fuck is wrong with Japan?
Rampant atheism and degeneracy
>My father destroyed my family, mistreated my mom, ruined my childhood, so am I supposed to forgive him, otherwise I am the villain of the story only because my father is a great warrior? Fuck off Japan.
Anon mha has shit writing and is only popular because of homos and fujos, we all knew this years ago.

>>283997013
so, basically, OP is retarded for not understanding a simple story about trying to make amends?

>>283986174
he did things wrong but not to the degree you were led to believe. he was indeed a jerk but he wasn't the one who burnt his son's face off and he didn't ask for his child to be born fucking psycho.

>>284001001
>and he didn't ask for his child to be born fucking psycho.
yeah he just raised him in a way that led to that

>>284000382
Japan works better than west

>>284001001
Endeavor, pls go
you're a shit father

>>284001104
Also he literally did ask for a kid who was stronger than him and would place his father's goals above himself. Be careful what you wish for.

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>>283987044
>>283999618
That was the worst part of the story for me. What, so abuse justifies further abuse? Or should she not take responsibility for burning her fucking son's face just because she's a woman? Get out of here with that.

>>283998760
He is still wishy-washy and incisive, and nothing is ever delved into how he feels about Endeavor after the post first war hospital reunion scene (and even then he says nothing specifically about his feelings towards Endeavor, just that he is fine with the team up to stop Touya).

>>284001470
Sounds like a shitty story

>>284001518
Shoto is boring. That's why the story pivots from Shoto to Endeavor as the main protagonist in the Todoroki storyline.

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>>284001518
>>284001574
I wonder if horikoshi had an even edgier plan for the endgame. Like Shoto telling his father to go fuck himself and having him move out. Feels like he couldn't make a decision (without majorly alienating the fanbase) or he couldn't flesh out whatever he had in mind.

>>283993622
Japanese work culture is the biggest reason for their declining population

>>283986612
>it doesn't emotionally affect him anymore
Lmao imagine believing people actually somehow move past defining traumas like that

that's just how Japanese family units work, sweep all problems under the rug to maintain a sense of stability
it's also why the cheating rates are so high

>>284001962
>that's just how Japanese family units work, sweep all problems under the rug to maintain a sense of stability
Anon...this isn't exclusive to japan whatsoever

Are you shocked? Look at Naruto for example. He called obito , the sole reason he had no parents and a shitty childhood the "coolest guy"

>>284001617
Endeavor was originally supposed to die, but during the High End arc Horikoshi decided not to kill him and generally to keep the casualties low on the hero side. Shoto's arc was always about him coming to terms with his dad though. It was obvious by the Stain arc.

>>284001390
You're massively oversimplifying what actually happened, anon.
>Endeavor had already been physically and psychologically abusing Rei for years (forcing the Quirk marriage, isolating her, treating the children like breeding experiments, hitting her when she tried to protect them, etc.).
>Rei was showing clear signs of severe mental deterioration: paranoia, auditory hallucinations, constantly covering her ears from the children’s crying because it reminded her of Endeavor’s shouting.
>On the day of the incident, five-year-old Shoto came home with his left side (the fire side) completely exposed. Rei, in a psychotic break, saw Enji’s face superimposed on Shoto’s and screamed “I can’t take it anymore!” before throwing boiling water on him.
>Immediately after throwing the water, Rei collapses in absolute horror at what she’s done, clutching her head and apologizing.

>Endeavor then backhands her across the room so hard she slams into the wall while she’s still on the floor cradling her head in mental anguish.

The story never presents Rei’s action as "justified abuse." It presents it as the tragic breakdown of a woman who was systematically destroyed by long-term domestic violence until she snapped.
The manga also never lets her off the hook: she spends over a decade in a mental institution, repeatedly calls what she did to Shoto unforgivable, and even in the finale she still carries crushing guilt and says she doesn’t deserve to be part of the family again.

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The story with Todoroki's family is so stupidly toothless.

>Hori refused to kill Endeavor
>but he also couldn’t fully redeem Endeavor, because the abuse was drawn way too brutally and realistically for a simple "I’m sorry, let’s hug" to land.
>Result: a limbo resolution where Endeavor is alive, retired, wheelchair-bound, and spends the rest of his life visiting comatose Dabi to talk at him while the family is permanently fractured. Nobody is happy, nobody is healed, nobody got catharsis.

Which is why >>284001518 is ultimately right, as much as it's a simple response. Even something as simple as having Dabi kill Endeavor to set up a revenge story would have worked miles better than what we got.

>>284003440
Killing him would have been toothless. If he's dead, that's that. You don't do that shit and get a happy ending. As was pointed out, one of his kids straight up still refuses to fully forgive him

>>284003604
Sure, but you at least get another cool fight. Rule of cool and all that.

>>283986174
Forgiveness is how people get better

>>283986425
>>283986942
>>283989577
as usual,womyn getting a pass for doing awful stuff
even in anime
the double standards are so real and solid one would need a chainsaw to cut it

>>284002370
Shame societies are a breeding ground for psychopaths since children learn that evil can be permissible when the public cant see it.

The endgame status for the todoroki family's relationship
Shoto
>love his mom
>indifferent to his dad

Toya (Dabi)
>hates his mom
>loves/hates his dad

Fuyumi (Shoto's Big Sister)
>loves her mom
>loves her dad

Natsuo (Shoto's big brother)
>likes his mom
>doesn't like his dad
>cuts off his entire family

>>284003440
>Even something as simple as having Dabi kill Endeavor to set up a revenge story
Set up what Revenge Story? No one in the Todoroki family likes him enough to want to avenge him.
The todoroki subplot is good as it is.

>>283991706
Marital rape isn't a thing. Don't get married if you don't want sex. Don't want kids? Birth control exists

>>283991706
Her mother was the one begging for it. Endeavour didn't want any kids after Dabi. And she kept wanting another one.

>>283987339
>Son has unstable quirk that hurts him severely
>Hey wife don't let him train he will get himself hurt
>Hey son you should train and develope your quirk haha would that be great!
>Almost gets himself killed
>Get into an argument and slap your wife because she almost killed your son
>Burns another sons face because "his face reminds her of him"
>He knocks her face in because of it
>I'm suppose to think he's the bad guy
Literally dropped the series because of this shit. People use to kill their wife's for endangering their sons let alone intentionally maiming them

>>284003788
My question is how it wasn't All Might that put him into retirement

>>283989583
Fuyumi was one she actually wanted. Natsuo and Shoto were more forced by Endeavor out of his own mental state brough upon by Toya being a fucking nut and All Might being too good at his job.

>>283987872
Hard to hate the best character in the manga.

>>284004333
None were forced by Endeavour. Rei kept wanting to breed and using Endeavour's goal as an excuse.
Endeavour only became crazy after toya died and they already had shoto by that point.

>>283993622
I don't think getting a job is that hard there it's actually putting up with all the extra bullshit besides your 9-5 even outside of the stereotypical salaryman office job
>Commute
>Overtime (unpaid)
>Kissing your bosses ass and basically mandatory drinking parties with your manager and coworkers
>Seniority means everything so unless you get really lucky you just have to deal with your 80+ year old boss' retarded decisions even if you see the problems coming a mile away

>>283997013
Exactly. Plus Endeavor, while apologetic, is ultimately not asking for forgiveness. When he gets shit on, he takes it because he knows he deserves it for what he did. By the end, Natsuo in particular is ultimately concrete in his intentions to leave Endeavor in the dark about his future and cut him off, and Endeavor accepts that.

I mean, the guy was legit gonna build his family a whole new house for them to live in while he stays alone in the old one. He flat-out dreams of his family being happier without him ffs

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i hate how the anime made rei's scar look less brutal than the manga judging from next episode pv.

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Rei has a lot of weird fetishes. She's probably considering a threesome with endy and hawks

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I watched this movie on a whim last night, if Hori wanted to do a story about a wacky dysfunctional family with a piece of shit but ultimately redeemable dad he could have just ripped it off.

But instead he went cartoonishly evil and then cartoonishly saccharine and fucked it all up, like everything else in his manga.

>>284004525
>I watched this movie on a whim last night,
no one cares

>>284004525
I care

>>284004467
I hate Natsuo's hair more than the scar cuz it reminds me of this one football player in high school

>>284004467
The anime always does that to all scars and battle damage. It's ass.

>>284004523
She shlicks to her husband and Hawks' romps with each other. (hawks recorded it because endy doesn't know how to do that on a phone)

>>284004733
>morbidly obese fujo
Oh yeah, your ilk are all into hecking abuse

>>284004525
>cartoonishly evil and then cartoonishly saccharine
I don't know how to describe Dabi being called a fathercon in canon, but it wouldn't be that.

>>284004439
>Seniority means everything so unless you get really lucky you just have to deal with your 80+ year old boss' retarded decisions even if you see the problems coming a mile away
Don't understand how nips do it without murdering their bosses.

>>284004099
>>cuts off his entire family
Appearantly he still talks to Shouto and fuyumi atleast, but I haven't read the data book myself so take it with a grain of salt

>>283998760
I assume he forgives him, but still keeps him at an arm's length.

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>>283986174
mha was NEVER well-written, people just conviced themselves it was because Hori can draw obscenely hot women and it was coming out around the time the MCU wasn't something you'd be embarrassed to admit you're into
if it had been realistic then Endeavor should have gotten divorced and then re-married with his hot secretary and started a new family with her, his children would have been proud of him for his progress but also angry it wasn't with them he tried to be a good father to

>>284005924
Dangerously based. The collective fan meltdown would be beautiful.

>>284005924
i enjoy the AFO wins doujins

>>284004525
Grand Budapest Hotel is better but I get your point

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>>284004815
>a fathercon
Then in that case Dabi should have been a woman, not only would it have been hotter(pun intended) and a hell of a lot more disturbing but it would have given Toga a galpal in League of Villains

>>284005924
That is untrue

>>284006523
No he's right, the second wife is always asian or latina for some reason

Until chapter 296, I was fine with the manga desu

>>284005466
obedience to the system is paramount
how many times in manga have you seen
>[all-powerful hero] is accused by [impotent government] for committing a crime everybody knows he didn't commit!
>but we just have to let them do this because they are the government!
>a tragedy!
then they prove his innocence and nobody is punished

I just hope Natsuo eventually forgives Endeavor and lets him meet his grandchild

the CHAD Endeavor
>believes in practicing eugenics to produce superior hero offspring, obviously makes his ideology known to any potential spouses who he's approaching with that Homo Superior mindset
>whole career exists in All Might's shadow, and feels depression at how he never surpasses All Might but he won't give up, a real rival, a true competitor; gets rewarded for the grind by becoming All Might's successor and the next Pillar of Heroism when All Might becomes crippled
>wife ended up becoming a crazy bitch and threw boiling water on youngest son; punched that crazy bitch's lights the FUCK out over it
I can't find anything wrong.

>>283986471
Can all sins be forgiven? Should they?

The thing that makes Endavours case really fishy is that he's No.2 Hero. If he retires or goes rogue the Japanese defacto millitary suffers greatly. This kinda rexonfextualizes a lot of things but isnt intended to be deeply thought on by the narrative.

>>283997013
>This is made easier by showing these "different angles" that reveal he was not as terrible as his son thought he was
except Hori overdid it and we got retarded shit like "Toya was born evil and none of this is Endeavor's fault"
>>284005924
isn't divorce still super taboo in Japan?

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>>283986174
Shouto gets pic related as happy ending, smashing two hot pro heroine ladies with voluptuous bouncing breasts and birthing hips. Also his mom/sister/brother leaves endeavor to come live with him and retire off his richer fame

I reject this gay ass ending where shouto just plays nothing burger and endeavor yet gets away with it.

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>>284007063
Based, Shouto just needed pussy and making friends to fill the hole in his heart.

>>284007054
It is but what's also taboo is the personal lives of famous people, they're super fucking secretive about it
In reality the public would have never found out about Endeavor's family besides Shouto

>>283986425
Exactly. If it were a stressed father because his wife is abusive, and he then took out his frustration on his children who have nothing to do with it, nobody would be condoning what he did.

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>>283986587
You do realize honor in japan doesn't translate to "honor", right?
It's all about saving face

>>284006847
>Can all sins be forgiven? Should they?
No and no.

>>284005924
>Endeavor should have gotten divorced and then re-married with his hot secretary
I feel like that would've been a good storyline for a lot of pro heroes with bad homelife, but with Endeavor's focus on quirk marriage I don't really see it with her.

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>>284006681
They get that shit browbeaten into them since they're old enough to hold a fucking pencil, that thing where schools don't hire jannies because the students do the cleaning is egregious.
And that doesn't mean they just magically brainwash themselves into thinking their superiors are great and infallible, they still get pissed off inside, they just bottle it all up for "the good of society"

>>283994166
i genuinely can't stand you faggots and your speedreading
i don't even know if i could call it speedreading because you clearly didn't even read at all

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>>284007934
Do you wanna maybe elaborate or where you just necrobumping?

People need to understand that eugenics isn't the land whales cunts want you to believe. The mere idea of not wanting to marry/breed an ugly cunt is eugenics because no one wants their little shits to look ugly. No one wants to father children with someone with the cancer gene or heart disease. Humanity and the old kingdom always sought a healthy spouse and a stronger heir for their legacy and name. It's normal.

>>284004099
He still sees the family. He just doesn't like his dad.

>>284008051
The turning point is spelled out across multiple arcs and chapters

>starting at chapter 188
>All Might retires after his final fight with All For One. Endeavor watches on live TV as the Symbol of Peace he spent his entire life chasing collapses and says "You’re next"
>For the first time, Endeavor actually gets what he wanted (No. 1 spot), but it’s hollow. It’s handed to him because All Might is gone, not because he surpassed him. The obsession that defined his entire life instantly loses all meaning.

>He has a full mental breakdown in private: screaming, punching walls, realizing he destroyed his family for a goal that turned out to be worthless.
>He explicitly tells Hawks (his new sidekick): Everything I did… was for nothing. I finally stood at the top… and there was nothing there.

like, it was explicitly said
>Multiple chapters are dedicated to his internal monologue and therapy-like conversations with Hawks and his family.
>He admits he has no idea how to be a father or even a decent person anymore.
>He decides the only thing left is to try to become a hero his children (especially Shoto) can at least look at without hating him.

>The Rei flashbacks and family confrontation hammer home exactly how monstrous he was. He doesn’t deny a single accusation.

>>284003297
>>284004333
>>283991706
She was not forced. Someone here once pointed out that she had one inner monologue in the inter manga, and it's to confirm that she made her choices many times and walked that path herself. She didn't say no to having sex but to the idea of using their unborn children as pawns to surpass All Might and get that little psychopathic firstborn of theirs to stop burning himself.

>>284008775
He didn't want the title of number one. He wanted to be the strongest. How much more do you want Hori to spoon-feed you

The real issue is that the story with Endeavor's family is just grim for the sake of it. There's no catharsis, nothing. It only exposed how boring Todoroki is.
>>284008784
That felt like damage control. I'm sorry, but I see no reason to give Horikoshi the benefit of the doubt. A lot of key decisions feel like there was no thought given to the long term story, or the endgame.

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>>284008775
You know what? You put some effort in that shit and you won me over, you're right
Endeavor is packed with more complexity than you'd expect for his role in the story
It just gets kinda lost with how disappointed everyone was with the ending of the manga

>>284008784
I see. Must've forgot. My memory escapes me sometimes.

>>284008775
Endeavor post-No.1 is someone I like far more than who he was before Kamino. A man who doesn't deny who he was, but pushes forward regardless to atone for his mistakes. And it is legit signified by how his fuckin' fire beard gets used less and is less intense. When your dream to surpass the strongest rings hollow, you can do naught but face your mistakes and move forward to try and be better, regardless of how those around you see you.

>>284004523
Lmao I hate how it's pretty much implied that Rei will just stay together with Endeavour taking care of him forever, all that symbolism that he would've ended up alone for what? He is not really alone

>>283986174
Japan is the land of cucks, so you will find cuckold ideology in their animated shit.

In any other show the family would've died together except Todoroki because he doesn't "deserve" the punishment but Horikoshi is too much of a coward, so All we got was Dabi being forced to listen to his family until the day he died

>>283986174
>He was wrong for doing those things, but I was wrong too for allowing those things to happen
Japanese wisdom is really beyond our comprehension

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>>284009509
Dabi finally got what he wanted.

But at the cost of his remaining life.

>>284009348
>Is garbage from Naruto all over again for retarded redditor capeshit normalfaggots trannies sóyboys
Fuck is cum eating cuckolds from >>>/pol/ and >>>/vt/ seaniggers spics shitskins

....why am I feeling deja vu from this thread?

>>284009509
>>284009794
Dabi got what he deserved. Killing people for the sake of “well it was my daddy’s fault” is a shit motive.

Is there a reason why the western fanbase absolutely loathes Endavour and Mineta so much but adore the league of villains?

>>284011342
You're gonna get a lot of different answers but the fact of the matter is that MHA is a gateway anime, different from Naruto. Instead of just Dudebros, it also attracts the insufferable safe-space tumblr crowd (women, numales, alphabet people) due to It being capeshit with bishounen characters and it releasing in the mid 2010s during their adolescence. To put it simply, Half of MHA's fanbase is the Steven Universe audience.

The actual villains in this show are their heckin precious cinnamon rolls. Mineta and Endeavor are too ugly to be loved in their eyes (despite any lie or excuse they pass off), and any redemption arc isn't going to change that.

>>284011323
Endeavor definitely had a part to play in Dabi's mental state.

But still, that excuses literally none of Dabi's action. Fuckin' guy literally murders people for no reason all cuz "Wahhh daddy is focusing on Shoto instead". I understand why his upbringing would lead to some toxic focus on his dad's attention, but YEESH.

Probably woulda killed Twice himself and photoshopped Hawks into the picture if Hawks didn't actually do it.

>>283986174
Unironically this is one of my least favorite writing tropes. The west pushes it too. They love "revenge bad" stories because they implicitly understand that corporations and the government are constantly fucking people in the ass, so they seed the entertainment industry with messages of "turning the other cheek." Remember how all media shat their pants the minute a guy killed an insurance billionaire?

>>284008972
Sex with Mei

>>284009509
Fuyumi and Natsuo didn't deserve punishment either. As children themselves, they have no responsibility to take care of their older brother, or to defy their father over how he's raising their younger brother. Their only responsibility was to be good children themselves and not cause problems for their parents. An obligation they fulfilled.

>>283986174
kwab. not everyone had a sedentary lifestyle like you, retarded op

>>284011342
No idea.
12 year old imouto loves toga, but when I say I like endeavour the best she sats I'm crazy and that he is more of a villain than anyone on the league.

>>284011458
Did he? Because, as far as we saw, Endeavor 1. stopped the training 2. Begged his son to stop 3. Told him to look beyond the Hero world. But Touya kept training in secret and burned body parts that no one could see. Touya’s problem is his insecurities, he believes he is not loved or worth it. People say Endeavor should have given up on his goals for Touya but forgot he had that dream for 20 years while Touya knew that goal for 4 years.

>>284012434
>Touya’s problem is his insecurities, he believes he is not loved or worth it.
I mean where do you think those insecurities and believes come from?
t.Endy's1# fan

>>284012576
I'm not absolving Endeavor of anything. But Touya was loved and cared for and he still couldn't see it.

>>283987044
OH NO....IS THAT....
A RICH TALL CHAD WITH A GIANT COCK? AAAAAAH THE HORROR

>>284001390
I was rewatching American HORROR Story murder house and I forgot this shit
>Husband cheats on family
>Wife goes to her daughters bedroom and BURN THEM ALIVE, condemning also to become a burned ghost forever
>Wife blames the husband
???????? BITCH JUST SLAPS YOUR HUSBAND OR TRY TO KILL HIM INSTEAD OF BURNING YOUR OWN LITTLE GIRLS ALIVE WTF

>>284009509
Bear with me guys... It's Dabi's fault
>Waaaahhhhh I was born to a highly respected millionaire dad
>I've been given the golden opportunity to NEET it up because I'm allegedly a failed experiment
>Decide to ignore everyone and keep doing the thing I'm not supposed to do until the thing everyone warned me about happened
>Probably half assed his training or else he would have atleast discovered he actually did have ice powers
>Eventually enter into maturity still blaming my parents instead of growing into my own man

>>284013266
>>284013153
This shit is why I can understand immigrant women hating on white and asian women: like, they would kill to have that

>>284013266
The best cure would have been to send the wife and son to wageslave

>>284013266
It was... That doctors fault that misdiagnosed his quirk.
If he wasn't such a quack and found out that Dabi had the potential to use Ice he would have surpassed All Might around the time he debuted in the League of Villains.

>>283987925
>In burgerland if the villain hits the protag with a chair they want the protag to do the same or worse back.
You're joking, right? Where do you think MHA got its inspiration from? Western comics.

>>283998760
This is what I've been asking myself. Shoto’s whole character has been inconsistent with his relationship with his dad. He swings between caring a hating.

>>283986174
>>284004467
>recent posts matches
Are you that xitter+tumblarina that keeps having a melty everytime endeavor appears?

>>284009302
I mean...the end of internship arc when the symbolism is shown was not a foreshadowing but shown to be sad that he is willing to be alone to atone. Hori made her his hero and her own(technically thats thanks to the nurses that fixed her faulty wiring) by finally asserting on what a family should be like- he who lost his young and she whose parents led her to believe they were extremely poor thanks to their inbreeding genes and gave her in a quick dowry marriage asap coz they wanted cash for roof repairs on their huge mansion and kept selling all the kids including Geten till it was pristine again.

>>283986174
>typical western mental illness
grift some where else troon

>>284011458
And he is anti-mutant to boot thanks to his mom's side

>>284013266
Basically a uber rich quirkincel. Rest assured unlike fanfictions he'd have made for the most obnoxious and mean hero nepokid.

>>284008784
Imma be real with u chief, that always felt like backpedalling to have a disingenuous Endeavour redemption arc because there was 0 chance the readers would empathize if he was actually raping his wife and Horikoshi didn't realize until too late in the story.

>>284014257
Is the money really what Himura wanted? If I understood what Getten correctly the family did what they did because the inbred kink destroyed and killed their offspring and reputation

>>284014437
I see what you mean but the force shit happened because Shoto said “Well mommy was forced” A child who was not there what the marriage was arranged. It was revealed later, which you can call expanding the story, that the character who was “forced” tells you herself, 3 times, she was not forced. It's not a retcon.

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Endy did nothing wrong

>>284014521
Oh I understand that it was technically not a retcon in-universe, but the tonal whiplash for Endeavour's entire redemption arc makes it really obvious that Horikoshi either didn't plan on a redemption arc at all initially or didn't consider just how viscerally the readerbase would hate Endeavour.

>>284014557
Didn't Hori say he wanted to expand on his character and show why he became a shitty father in his page?

>>284014437
>>284014557
>Manga says you're wrong
>B-b-b-ut I feel it was backpedaling

This post reeks of tumblr

>>284014437
>hat always felt like backpedalling
We're literally never told otherwise before the flashback how the fuck could it be backpedlaing. The hilarious thing is that the whole "rape" nonsense came from animeonlies who never read the manga

>>284014472
I mean literally when the family is never going to multiply again anyways as Geten says why not get their retirement fund? What reputation? The one that made them outcasts in modern times coz they were the KKK that commited one of the mutant cullings? Do families like Bakugo's look like they had a single mutant in it's lineage? There were also zero quirk people in previous generation. These guys inbred within their village to keep the property in their family but lost out like the real life ones in Showa Japan. But unlike the real life ones, they didn't get a suitable orphan outsider to be adopted through marriage to expand the family register nor did they use their connection with their new son in law to fix their situation or raise their reputation in public. They just decimated like Geten is the next gen where were the benefits of marrying No. 2? Instead they kept marrying off their kids to other people's clans for cash or sold them to CEOs like Redestro. No males left at all other than Geten? Why sell the kid? Marry him to his main branch cousin! Grannyn is poor? Why didn't she just ask to live with them considering it made sense she'd take care of house and infants and pregnancy issues? Nah she wanted rid of her daughter and any excuse to get more money for their main branch and was making excuses on hubby's behalf. Normally it would all be for the sake of Rei's brother inheriting everything but we were never told if she had siblings who benefitted. And also if what Geten was saying were true Rei wouldn't be so fertile and both he and she won't be that normal looking and pretty. KKK Eugenics however was proven with their quirks being extra special strong. Also how come it would sense that Geten being in MLA with a certain worldview that the Himuras should have been in the MLA too but no. They don't even want to stir their asses and get some business seed money. Trading the kids keeps their gardens pristine.

>>284007054
>except Hori overdid it and we got retarded shit like "Toya was born evil and none of this is Endeavor's fault"

That happens. People can be born broken, with malfunctioning minds. Psychopaths.
As twists go, it's not bad or wrong, it's simpy not what you wanted.

>>284008964
>The real issue is that the story with Endeavor's family is just grim for the sake of it. There's no catharsis, nothing.

To you.

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>>284005924
>mha was NEVER well-written
The best part is that not only is that NOT true but now if you call poorly written you get outed as a cuck porn enthusiast due to all the McDonalds spam last year

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>>283986174
>Pic related is all I wanted from this useless drama, Shoto giving Momo the thumbs up to bare his children after telling his father that he'll forgive him, but he's going to be a better dad than he was to him and his siblings

Sigh

>>284008775
> realizing he destroyed his family for a goal that turned out to be worthless.
never happened, that is just your headcanon in hindsight
>Everything I did… was for nothing. I finally stood at the top… and there was nothing there.
and not once did he mention his family, or a change of heart, just disappointment that he couldn't achieve his goal as there was an unknown timelimit
>like, it was explicitly said
somehow I don't believe you, considering all the headcanon so far
>conversations with Hawks and his family.
by that point he already had a 180° out of nowhere he is sooo sorry for everything he did

I never said he or anyone denies he was a shit dad, I said it came out of nowhere

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>>284015678
> never happened, that is just your headcanon in hindsight
Literally the first thing he remembers after seeing All Might’s true form was Rei and Shoto.

>>284008964
As for the second point it was damage control only because Hori never meant it and people misinterpreted. He only intended to show the toxic mental state that stagnated and the slap. The first part is highly true mainly coz Hori admit he got the plot from Sion Sono movies. Some also had a theory he borrowed from Flame of Recca but he instead of making the characters dynamic he made the scenario toxic.

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>>284015715
This? THIS is what you are basing your headacanon on? Yes, he was thinking about them because they were the tools he used to beat Allmight, which just now became naught. There is not a shred of "Oh shit, I was a bad dad and husband!"

>>284015773
Cool horseshit bro

>>284016078
Nice headcanon

>>284016226
exactly, so let's ignore all this headcanon and just see what is onscreen
nothing

>>284014437
>Rape
>Wife
Sorry I live in a civilized society that doesn't recognize this shite

>>284007054
I mean Super Frankenstein Mc Evil is saying it of a kid that just woke up and said no to being the lab rat of Hiter the 3rd. Using his opinion as the end all be all of that situation is pretty biased, just like how people on these threads call shoto saying rei was forced to have kids was biased

>>284016239
Dude do you want a “I was a bad husband and father who hurt my wife and child” bullshit spoon feed?

>>284016826
I want an actual progression and realization, not just thing that only some may interpret in hindsight as progression.
But I guess for you "Oh, I'm good now and very sorry" is enough.

>>284016867
What did he said that?

>>284016078
You are literally putting your own reasoning behind the character and interpresting his images into what you want.

Yes, it is your headcanon because you are attaching a specific interpretation/meaning to the images and claim it as absolute truth.

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>>284015628
>You realize shouto was made to be double the power of his dad in both power, influence and sexual dominance for women
>Only Yaoyorozu (having a taxing quirk like hers) can endure and adapt to a living fertility experience with him by banging Todoroki and having a freak of nature demi god baby

>>283986174
bakugo should be in Juvie for the shit he pulled in school.

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>>284017387
It be like Superman getting it on with Wonder Woman and it being a natural ecological event that may destroy a town

>>283986174
revenge is Kegare

>>284007670
>schools don't hire jannies because the students do the cleaning
that part is great tho
not because it teaches obedience, but because it teaches that doing work is not beneath you, no matter how smart or privileged you are

>>284014782
That is messed up.

>>283986174
He should have sex with his hot son

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>>284008972
Sex with Mei

>>284016867
You want to be spoon fed then.

>>283986174
You are supposed to forgive because you are a hero who has a higher moral standing than the rest of us. In this series where killing can be justified there is no greater act for a hero than the act of forgiveness and even more so that is a personal one. And in Endeavor's act of contrition, why shouldn't he? It is an act of mercy on his part pretty much the highest act a hero could do. It doesn't absolve Endeavor of what he did because Todoroki doesn't have the power to do so. So what it is then? What is forgiveness? It is the act of relieving oneself of resentment and hatred because of the actions or trespass of others. It doesn't say absolution, nor redemption, nor forgetting what he did. For his part it is him not being consumed by hatred or resentment for what Endeavor did to his family, the same one that consumed Dabi. Forgiveness is the recurring theme in Todoroki's character arc and in each time he let's go of his resentment becomes a better hero in doing so. It is unfulfilled then if he doesn't forgive his father in his hour of contrition and he will not become a hero fully. Forgiveness therefore is the complete culmination of his character development and the highest example of him being a hero--- a path he willingly chose.

So what's the problem then? Why are you mad that Todoroki forgave his father when it was a personal choice for his own benefit? Why shouldn't he be free from his own grudges and hatred?

>>283986174
yes anon, japan is notoriously shitty when it comes to familial relationships due to conformist beliefs that go against anything that might portray them outwardly as a perfect family (just like most of asia)

>>284004439
The work culture has been steadily improving in recent years through laws and as more and more boomers retire and the fact that newer generations are also getting sick of it.

>>283992238
>very low homicide rates
That's because it's only a homicide if you murder other people.

>>284018625
He didn't really forgive him, tho.
It feels like Horikoshi wrote himself into a corner. Couldn't fully redeem Endeavor. Couldn't kill him via Dabi to set up a revenge story, with Todoroki saying he didn't deserve to get killed.
>Why shouldn't he be free from his own grudges
because his victims aren't free from the damage he caused and likely never will. The story with this family ultimately feels like just misery for the sake of it. There's no catharsis.

>>284018891
He did. You don't need a whole page of Shoto saying “O’ father I forgive you”. Hori fully redeemed Endeavor even the son who hates him the most told him he had done right but since Endeavor hates himself he disagrees. And it was never stated it was Dabi he killed Endeavor. The story was never about revenge.
The victims can grow last their trauma and heal.

>>284018891
>because his victims aren't free from the damage he caused and likely never will
why is it that in modern morality, doing good deeds is not worth anything, but doing bad deeds is a debt you have to repay?
>I have saved 100 people at significant personal risk and effort
kickass, make sure to do the same tomorrow
>I have ruined the lives of 100 people
you are a wretch and you need to personally repay each of your victims, which usually means dedicating your whole life to it, and even that will not bring back the dead so you're bad forever

I'm not proposing putting all of person's deeds on a scale, and I'm not saying that heroism excuses occasional murder
just that the regular approach sooner or later makes everybody except literal saints atone for something for the rest of their lives
it's unworkable if you think about it

at some point I think you should be allowed to just put things behind you

>>284020337
>why is it that in modern morality, doing good deeds is not worth anything, but doing bad deeds is a debt you have to repay?
I mean, in this case, Endeavor most definitely ruined his family. Not alone, but he played a major part in that. And it's not something that can be fixed with
>my bad, guys, I was buggin'

>>284019429
Copium overdose. With the revenge story, you at least set up a cool fight, which is what really matters in this genre. The big issue is that with the story as it is, you're left with the question
>to what end?
As in, what was the point of all this? A lot of the conclusions in mha generally underwhelmed, at best. The story of Endeavor's family just feels like there was something else initially planned, and either time crunch or Hori being a hack led to the endgame being garbage.

>>284018109
Dabis dead tho

>>284020766
> you at least set up a cool fight
Dude, just chose one idea. You can't say Shoto hates his dad then expect a revenge story if Dabi had killed his father. Shoto and Dabi’s fight is not bad. Hori just didn't have Shoto and Daniks relationship an emotional wight that is why we ended with a shit “Udon” line.

>>284020854
Finally. Where was it confirmed?

>>284020766
>not something that can be fixed with
Endeavor is not responsible to fix it
okay, he is, but not because he's the culprit, because he's the father
and if his family ousts him then not even that

>>284017387
I'm not sure what the combinations of these 2 quirks would produce.

Maybe a quirk that creates heated/Cold objects? Like lava or molten metal?

>>284021814
Fan book and volume 42.

>>283986174
Japanese has a really retarded concept of family and you can see it in their anime.
They like to excuse the most abusive behavior if the parents "have good intentions", "it resulted from their own trauma", or "they're retarded and didn't know they were being abusive"

>>284024528
As opposed to the modern western society that invented a thousand of imaginary mental illness to check a box and parents slightly disciplining their children is seen as abuse by younger millennials?

>>284024528
Japanese Oyakoko and Kazoku values vs Western daddy issues and Oedipus complex.

No wonder Kimetsu no Yaiba got successful.

>>284014548
Retarded wojaktards from the sharty and kiwifarms are worse than seaniggers and spics go back >>>/out/ and to reddit.

Dabi: *burns a child alive*

Dabi: Why would Endeavor do this?

>>284025581
I'm glad Dabi died off screen. It's a one last fuck you from Hori to his fans. Nice touch.

>>284022678
Something something green lantern with storms powers.

>>284024686
Who's talking about western society other than you?

>>283989532
Bless you Jahy for your wisdom.

>>284001666
The entire region is fucked, Japan's the only one honest with their demographic numbers.

>>283991706
You sign up for sex when you get married.

>>284025581
Does anyone ironically like canon Dabi?

>>284024528
This

>>284013266
Do people take Touya's backstory even seriously?

>>284007670
Personally I think making the kids clean up is fine however I hate school and don't think it should exist so you could say that it's the only part I respect about the institution.
>>283987351
It's a two way street. My family shits on me so much I have no desire to keep living in slavish misery for their sole benefit. I am a shoe lacer so pathetic I'll gladly come back. In order to look at myself in the mirror I'll refuse to do that from now on

>>284018626

>>283986174
Based MercyCHADS. Sorry revengelets go read Manwha or something.

>>284028106
The Japs are almost India-tier with how they treat their women
It's not rape but for someone reason some men like to aggressively bump into women and fuck with their baby strollers. Police also ignore women who come with charges against men and lay the blame on the accuser

>>284029822
>implying South Korea isn't the same shit

>>284031722
my understanding was that half the manhwa is about the fantasy of being a really good manager at some corpo
and using your power to exact petty revenge on all the employees who ever slightly wronged you
while having a really pointy chin

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>>283986174
Who cares

>>284033279
Was this the horse dick deku one

>>283987339
>Man yells
>Woman acts like he threw her down
>Man has enough control to not hit her or the kid
not surprising from a westaboo like Horikoshi

>>284033279
Why is Shoto always portrayed as a fag

>>284029822
It's not even about revenge it's just daddy issues

>>284034949
Because he is one

>>283986174
You're not "supposed" to forgive him.
Natsuo didn't forgive Endeavor and it wasn't framed as the wrong choice.
Shoto simply recognized that Endeavor, despite abusing him and his family, did overwhelmingly more good for the world as a whole than bad.

actually couldn't they have made a fire retardant suit for Toya so he wouldn't burn himself
the technology has to exist for that in universe and the Todorokis are rich so Endeavor just giving up on him like that was kind of dumb in hindsight

>>284036061
If the technology existed, Endeavor would have used it and he wouldn't complain about how his overheating is a big problem for him. Dabi's problem is even bigger compared to Endeavor because unlike his dad who have fire resistance, Touya has ice resistance and is weak to fire. It literally comes from his skin. There is very little technology could to to help alleviate that.

>>284036061
The fire comes out of his skin. How is the suit gonna help with that

>>284036061
If a fire suit was an option Dabi wouldn’t have been born.

>>284037736
It's worse in Dabi’s case. Daddy didn't want him to burn himself.

>>283986174
Westerners will find any excuse to hate their parents because it's easier and more comfortable than accepting their failure

>>284001390
It's still his fault, faggot.

>>283989466
This man did literally nothing wrong and the fact he would've been able to break into UA proved him right. If the school can't successfully notice or stop a non violent criminal like him, they're pretty shit at their job. If it wasn't for Deku treating gentle like he was a dangerous criminal or something.

>>284018891
Repeat after me:

ENDY DID NOTHNIG WRONG.

He had a psycho son and a psycho wife and a shit life.

>>284038229
>kids have had rough couple of months.
>teachers wanted to cancel school festival to prevent any risks
>decided against cancelling, because kids really need a break and let them have fun to unwind, but will pull the plug on everything if there is even the slightest hint of trouble
>now some retard is planning to crash the entire thing, because he wants to get youtube famous.
I will never understand gentlefags.
He 100% deserved that beating.

>>284006847
From the rational standpoint yes and yes. If the person well and truly changed holding grudge against them makes no logical sense. There's a caveat though we are not rational

>>284038232
I blame the inbred genes.

Endeavor should at least be stripped off his hero license and title, imprisoned, and given the Suicide Squad treatment. Just let him out for black ops bullshit. Give the wife-abusing eugenicist a leash since he likes being a government dog so much. He can bawl his guilt-ridden repentant ass off during missions.

Hypocritical figureheads are the worst.

>>284038315
Anon all he would've done is just showed up then left nothing more. The fact UA wasn't having good security for the event is just incompetence on their part.

>>284018160
>nothing in that shows there was any misinterpretation
Exactly. Horseshit.

>>284033039
You got it

>>284038533
I hope you have the same energy for the villains.

>>284038533
You do realize that wife came from an inbred cult with a shady background, right?

>>284001690
They do. If you develop the executive function part of your brain.

>>284001690
Healthy people do. Retards develop daddy issues and become criminals

>>284027846
No, they like that fanon version they created.

>>284040365
Pathetic

I think Endeavor's real crime was neglecting his kids, it's not like he abused them. People keeps misattributing Rei's woman moments as Endeavor's fault when it's clearly not. If this was a real western comic >>284005924 would happen because his family kept giving him on shit he hasn't done, but this is Japan so he's require to cuck out and accept that as the male of the family, he's responsible for every wrong in the household

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>>284033279
>>284034949
>>284035017
Kys, Im sick of idiots who declare just because of his appearance and how hes on the surface just a character that doesn't appeal to guys because he is the opposite of their shounen fantasies.
You can see why most of his fans are women who are inherently not obsessed with powerscaling.

Like I've never seen a guy who likes him, especially not after the manga ended. That just pisses me off, hes not even that gay since he does give girls their phone number.

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If only Todoroki had more scenes with Momo, he'd be just as loved as deku in the harem side of the fandom.

>>284041073
His fans are hysterical women who go berserk over his nose in the future design. Chill, faggit. He is not even that good it's just daddy issues the character. Take Endeavour out and Shoto has nothing.

>>284038601
Just showing up was enough to cancel the entire thing.
Just leave people the fuck alone.

>>284041073
Shoto is a shit character

>>284042022
This. Shigaraki did the same thing in season one.

>>284011524
>Remember how all media shat their pants the minute a guy killed an insurance billionaire?
Which media? Surely not the ones meant for entertainment.

>>284041073
At least Deku considered killing Shiggy. This fag wanted to eat udon with a mass murderer

>>284009302
>Lmao I hate how it's pretty much implied that Rei will just stay together with Endeavour taking care of him forever
I think it's absolutely a fantastic. Just the mere thought of it can drive a Dabi fan catatonic with rage. It's magical.

>>284009302
That is the point, genuine. He wanted to be alone by building his family a house to heal and his family came to help him atone.

>>284038232

>>284030073
Groping is also very common. They have gender segregated public transportation because of this

>>284035785
Natsu is a bitch. The one who whined the most.

>>284005924
That genuinely would not happen because, while he did regret what he did to his family, he would have simply started all over again until All Might naturally stops being number 1. He doesn't truly absorb that he wronged.his family until he got what he wanted. What would make you think divorce and making Family 2 would help

>>284047449
He didn't get what he wanted though. The title was never what he wanted in the first place.

>>284045145
It will be glorious

>>284030073
>This subway is mine for the slamming!

>>283986174
>The fuck is wrong with Japan?
Emotional intelligence, something america lacks because they think it's "gay".
>am I supposed to
No, you're a viewer. You're not SUPPOSED to do or feel anything. That's all up to you. Authors just tell stories.

Shounenfags are mentally disabled, I swear.

>>283987339
He really should have divorced her or put her in an institute.

>>284048976
you can replace "supposed" with "expected" if it helps you overcome this mental hurdle

>>284048976
Anon, authors regularly try to guide or evoke the readers emotions. They want you as a reader to care, and to think about the characters. You don’t have to be that hyperbolic.

>>284004439
I thought nomikai (drinking parties) wasn't a thing anymore.

>>284008784
>She was not forced.
She was.

>>284048976
Most of MHAfags are underage girls with daddy issues if no daddy at all.

>>284050069
She wasn't. She said it was her own choice in her only monologue.

>>284048983
he did put her in an institute

>>284041073
He's gay anon

>>284050559
After she scarred her child. Funny enough the only scars on the family are caused by Rei and Dabi.

>>284050069
Bullshit.

>>284050559
And it helped

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>>284041518
>>284042608
>>284044718
>>284050881
>mid incel bait trashing the most well written character of the class

Okay

>>284055187
>deadpan, oblivious autist who has to relearn the same lesson multiple times
>best written

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>>284011458
Hori should have stuck with his original idea where Dabi and Shoto were just one character.

>>283986174
He's the best at showing you which people still have daddy issues.
Without failure.

>>284058073
kek

>>284055978
The biggest sin is that he's fucking boring. The arc with Endeavor made that painfully clear.

>>284055187
Not even close.

>>284055187
His character orbits around his dad.

>>284055187
Shoto should have been a girl.

>>284062352
This can be said about most of the characters in this manga desu

>>284062583
I don't think Bakugo would have been that popular ic he was a girl.

>>284062688
The only difference between him and his mother is that he's meaner, so female Bakugo would at least be pretty popular with male fans, probably with some female fans too. But yeah, she wouldn't be "Voted Most Popular 9 Years in a Row" popular

>>284062688
The better question is would Bakugo have been as popular if deku was a girl

>>283986174
did you miss endeavor's entire character arc

>>284037803
This right here, everything is blamed on parents, trauma, and mental illness, and all of them are usually related. People would have less trauma and mental illness if they just forgave their parents instead of seething eternally.

>>284058073
This.

>>284063945
This is disturbing

>>284064205
What's disturbing?

I don't think Endevour is a good guy at all or even really worthy of an apology by his family. He fucked up a bunch of lives through his obsession of making ubermensch superbabies through eugenics. It's comically horrible.

>>283986174
>complexity bad, I need my world to be black and white
Fuck off, the Endeavor situation was one of the few things Hori did well. It's not like everyone forgave him either, one son probably never will and another died still hating him. The ones who chose to forgive him just recognized that he's genuinely tried to change and isn't a monster, he was a deeply flawed man who hurt people in his obsession to surpass All Might.

>>284064812
I mean he kinda succeeded at the eugenic ubermensch suoerbaby bit literally because he married the nip kkk ice family who bred pure blood and had the pinnacle of quirks, i.e. Horikoshi's literal point is pure eugenics works best for creating ultimate quirks

>>284064812
You’re an idiot. It's not black and white.

>>284064846
After four tries and his eldest son accidentally burning himself near to death. And he only gets the son he wanted (one both capable of balancing the quirks AND willing to be a hero) when he had people who told him NOT to be or act like his dad, and the epilogue explicitly says that the public is slowly stopping their association of him with endeavor so that he gets to be a hero on his own merits

>>284065185
His oldest son is a bitch.

>>284065185
>Dabi